The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 81: Plane Crashes, MAGA Meltdown, and Bird Flu

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

The last couple weeks have been LOADED with stuff happening. Some would say too much. But we love when things happen. We're talking about the four plane crashes, the MAGA meltdown on twitter, the Hone...y scam, and of course...BIRD FLU. This week's bonus is a real one. https://benandemilshow.com BOSTON! we are coming to you! https://thewilbur.com/armory/artist/ben-and-emil/ NEW YORK! we are also coming to you! https://www.caveat.nyc/events/ben-and-emil-live-in-nyc-2-8-2025 LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g CHECK OUT OUR BONUS EPISODES: https://benandemilshow.com Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa Leave a comment to be featured as the comment of the week next week! And also, like this video, please! Thank you! __ Latest MEATBALL SPECIAL HERE: https://youtu.be/Euyfzwmq8WY Last week's episode HERE: https://youtu.be/rXA-Tg-VS-M We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U This episode was shot and edited by Connor Rousseau / @ conrad_roussrad Follow us on instagram! @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you've been living in Iraq, Elon Musk, the now owner of Twitter and president of this country, de facto president of the United States, had a big meltdown on Twitter alongside his Doge co-conspirator, Vivek Ramoswamy. You need to be preparing your child to maximize shareholder value. There is no, there's no fun. There's no hanging with friends. More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More robots like Terminator, less like what's the Disney one? More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons, more books, less TV, more creating less chill-in. More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of friends.
Starting point is 00:00:44 My man is obsessed with pop culture. I'm joking down town with baby on me. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. too bad in me Tell me what's going on Tell me what's gone on Don't click it Folks there's a button on the remote See we got to
Starting point is 00:01:15 Here's a little BTS No don't tell them about the other See that's You know The previous studio that we were at Didn't like to do any BTS Big mistake Why?
Starting point is 00:01:25 Because BTS is fun Well this is a this is a This is an episode. It's not BTS. Yeah, but we have a little timer that you guys... That's a good idea. You guys can't see it, but there's a little clock. So people can really see how the mustard gets made.
Starting point is 00:01:39 This is a house with a clock and its balls. And we got it right there. And you can't see it, but we can. And it's counting up. And there's a Japanese, it's a remote. Is it Japanese or Chinese made, do you think? That looks like the Chinese font. Chinese, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And there's one button that says Tabata on there. T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A Yeah, Tabata and the other one adjacent to it is clock It's a really confusing remote It's one of the most It's very difficult to run this clock
Starting point is 00:02:08 Let me see, let me see the other book What are the other buttons? You have edit up, reset, down One that just says e-mom E-M-O-M-O-M-C-Clock That one? I'm like, that should be on there. Tabata
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, yeah, Tabata P-G-B PGB And then a stopwatch Stopwatch looking simple It's a real mess. Man, well, it does, I mean, it does work. And from the Ben and Emile show to you, we'd like to just say Tabada.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Tabada. And we'll be here today. We'll be here, Tabada. We'll be here, Imam. Oh, boy, folks, happy. Let me be the first to say. No, let me be the first to say. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Happy to hear. Happy New Year to you. Happy New Year to you. Happy New Year to all of you. Happy New Year, I love you Whoa boy So this episode It's going to be a bad year
Starting point is 00:03:02 Isn't it? Oh, I thought you were going to say episode We got a great episode We got a great episode This is going to be It's going to be a really good season Of Ben and Emile But it's going to be a bad year
Starting point is 00:03:12 For a lot of people For you, the loser consumer generally People Do we have a loser consumer t-shirt? We have a hat. It's great. We need to turn that into a t-shirt I don't know we don't
Starting point is 00:03:23 But folks This is going to be a classic my dad over Christmas said I was in the middle of a sentence but it's cool no go ahead what'd your dad say over Christmas well he I picked him did he say last Christmas they gave you my heart no I picked him from the airport he had his Ben and
Starting point is 00:03:37 Neil show shirt on he did and he was telling me and Sarah that he has every piece of merch but he doesn't feel comfortable wearing the loser consumer hat and we said why that's the funniest one and he's like I don't know I just don't want to have loser consumer on my thing and we're like why it's funny it's like
Starting point is 00:03:54 yeah but he's too self-conscious. Yeah. That's, that denotes intelligence. Your dad's very smart. Yeah. Ray, you're smart guy there. No, but this episode is a classic Ben and Emile. Everybody's talking about how this is actually a classic one. Everybody's talking about it on the Reddit, the subreddit, the Discord. Join those. Ben and amielshow.com. Honestly, the bonus is going to be even more classic. We had a little bit of a technical difficulty, and Ben was telling me a lot of funny stuff. And I said, can you please save this for the bonus? I don't even remember what it was about. I hope we do.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Russian women? Oh, foreign women. Yeah, yeah, generally. That's what it was. And also, I really embarrassed myself. I had a very cringe moment. Also, I got in a... With a celebrity.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Little car incident. Well, oh, dude, I can't wait to hear all this. But this episode... That's all at the Ben & Mealshow.com, and it's how easier than ever. You can go right through Spotify. But folks, this episode, we're going to be talking about, what have we got?
Starting point is 00:04:50 The plane crashes? Not good. We got to talk about the infighting with the crazy conservative. the H-1B visa. Oh, my God. The Elon and Vivek Ram and Lamma-Ding-dong meltdown. We've got the honey scam.
Starting point is 00:05:03 We're going to be talking about that because it is the biggest scam probably we've seen in the modern age on the internet. We're going to be talking about the bird flu ramping up. And if you get scared and anxious, don't watch that part. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:16 But also... Watch it. You know, get a bidet so that you don't have to deal with the... toilet paper shit. I should have an affiliate link for a bidet so that people can
Starting point is 00:05:27 so I get a little kickback from Amazon and don't let honey touch it and don't let honey touch it see that's a little bit of foreshadowing don't touch it
Starting point is 00:05:35 and then we're gonna also if we got time we're gonna talk about a little bit about how Donald J. Trump president elect Donald Trump is how we will
Starting point is 00:05:44 finally be a real country again and we're gonna have Greenland he's weirdly it's super bizarre the way he's talking about taking over Canada and Greenland
Starting point is 00:05:51 we deserve him Greenland or Greenland you'll find out. Okay. So, but before we do all that, I just have to say last week's live stream for stock twits was probably the best one we've done yet. It's probably one of the best live streams you've done. Go to the stock twits YouTube and check it out. You're really going to enjoy it. Oh my God. What? Also, fucking we keep, we should have put this at the beginning. We keep forgetting to advertise the live shows. Oh yeah. There's going to be links for them
Starting point is 00:06:20 in, uh, we're doing Boston and New York in February. Yeah. There'll be links for them in this get a ticket we'll see you there we're coming new york we're coming back caveat theater small theater we're doing a live dungeons and dungeons and dragons it's going to be very fun yeah our friend is going to be dming we might have a couple friends with us it's going to be very interesting yeah i was going to make a joke about dms but i don't he's going to save that for the live show yeah let's get into these plane crashes because you know i am um i'm the plane guy on this show I'm the noted plane guy. I am the noted playing guy. I'm the crash guy. There were a bunch of plane incidents last week. There were three on the same day, in fact. And fortunately, yeah, very curious. Four total in the last week. Fortunately, only two of them had fatalities. But yeah. So the first one was this Azerbaijan Airlines. It got shot down. It fully got shot down. I don't know. I haven't been keeping up with the updates, but
Starting point is 00:07:27 they, it's perhaps the first, did you see any of the stuff from this? Any of the footage? I didn't watch the other than one. We're not going to watch any of it because it's just too difficult to like pull it up. But first off, right off the bat, this one was not a Boeing plane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Not that it would change anything because like I said, it was likely shot down by Russian air defense shit. And then Vladimir Putin, the big dickhead that he is, extended his apologies to the people of Azerbaijan for this accident because it did crash in Russia, because it was en route from Azerbaijan to Russia. But yeah, it apparently was seen acting erratically, like going up and down like a roller coaster before finally making this turn and then just absolutely beefing it into the ground. But I want to say over half the passengers survived, which is remarkable.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But... We're getting better. There was footage. People were obviously, because they knew something was going on. There were air masks dropped. People were filming themselves inside the plane. So you've got like... Yeah, I just Googled it.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And I just, I was like, I don't want... It's not as bad as you would think. There's not like gore or anything, fortunately. But there's videos of, yeah, there's one guy who was filming himself as it was as it was going through what it was going through. And then the immediate aftermath, like coming out of the wreckage, which is fucking mind-blowing. But then, yeah, there's all sorts of close-up footage and shots, photos, and whatnot of shrapnel. It's clearly shrapnel damage. They were trying to say, oh, maybe it's a bird strike. No, no, no, no, no. Bird strikes don't do that.
Starting point is 00:09:15 There's no blood and feathers and shit. Birds don't puncture fuselages in this way. You know, give me a fucking break. Give him a break. But that, so there was that one. Then you had this KLM Flight 1204, which was a 737. This is a 737-800, which is the precursor to the 737 max. And so if you're reading about this stuff, I'm trying to quell some of your worries here. I don't think that any of these fall on Boeing's shoulders, especially because the 737-800.
Starting point is 00:09:52 is otherwise a very reliable, impeccable, pretty impeccable safety record. But this one skidded off the runway because it, due to like bad hydraulics or something. And then you had this air Canada. And it slammed into the... No, you're thinking of the GJU.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Oh, the Korean one. Yeah. And then you had this air Canada. I don't know what kind of plane this is. It's called a De Havilland. And it was the same deal. It skid it off the runway. Just like injuries.
Starting point is 00:10:22 reported. But man, before we get to the main one, yeah, the Havelin is a, oh, it's a British, British aviation manufacturer. Some guy put together this airline list. And folks, it's very, if you're, if you're curious, it's, it's pretty cool. So you can filter all sorts of things, but the main ones is he's got the safest airlines ranked. You got number one is EV, EVA, air, no fatalities, no fatal accidents. High non, no fatal accidents. And as you, let's scroll down through some of these, Kwanis. One and 27 million. Yeah, the A&A Airlines.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I don't know how he gets the odds here. That's fun. I'm going to look up my odds of death per trip every time I fly. One in nine million. All right. Some of these are surprising because it's- Didn't we fly Singapore to Japan? Yes, we did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And we had a one-to-nine million. Yeah. And if you hover your mouse over these, it shows the latest crash, if any. So like, Qatar, Airways, Mahan, which is out of Iran. Wow, dude, Air New Zealand, not doing great. One in five million. Ooh. Well, their last crash was in 1979. Yeah, but perhaps it's due to, I don't know, again, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They probably don't. Yeah, that's, that's probably it. Ooh, let's see Greece, Aegean. No fatal accidents. Wow, wow. Now let's scroll up because, I mean, there are so fucking many of these. Let's do buy airplanes. Even better. The A350. Perfect track record. No fatal accidents. The A380, no surprise there. No fatal accidents in 20 years. The Chinese one. the new one, the C-919, no fatal accidents. The Airbus A-319, A-3-20, A-3-21 Neo-no-fatal accidents. All right, we're getting to some Boeing.
Starting point is 00:12:01 The A-3-40, you know what I recently learned about this airplane? What did you recently learn about the A-340? They underpowered this plane. Why would they do that? I don't know, but if you ever get to see one in person, watch it take off because it's the only four-engine passenger jet that is not a double-decker because the other two are the A380 in the Boeing 747. The A340 is
Starting point is 00:12:25 just a single level. We're getting to some Boeing ones now it's getting, now it's heating up. Yeah, the 747, very, very safe. Let's see when the last 747. Damn, I don't want to get on a fucking 777. Oh, it doesn't even show when the last crash was. Triple 7, yeah. 1 and 8 million. 1 and 8 million. Ooh, 767, 1 and 3 million.
Starting point is 00:12:43 These are not odds I love. Babu. The Boeing 717 is very safe. No fatal accidents. First flight was in 1998. Hell yes. Interesting. The train. Yeah, he's got train on here. One in three million odds of dying on a train. Yeah, and then let's keep going. Yeah, the 737. The A300 Baluga. I don't know why the fuck they would have that on there. The Boeing MD80, yeah, that one's a death trap. Ship. He's got ship on here. A ship?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, one in three million odds of death per trip. on the 737 max. Wait, let's see bus. Bus, one in 13 million? Jesus Christ. Keep going down. What else we got on here? Darnas Keanu Reeves isn't in your city. Helicopter, one in a hundred thousand.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Oh, dude, do not get on a helicopter. Don't get on a fucker. Well, actually, get on a fucker. I can't believe there's one called a fawker, but yeah, there you go. This is what's confusing about this, guys. Like, how is the 787 not higher on the list when there's no fatal accident?
Starting point is 00:13:48 well it's all about how you die you know are you doing it in style i guess wow baboo uh airbus a 300 looks like shit all right we're this is too fun i could keep going all day on this but so then we had the then we had this really really tragic i i don't know if i'm saying it right but the jju um crash and this one i saw the photo jeff oh dude it's yeah it's really i mean it's all over twitter it's just at first i saw it i'm like ooh that's exciting A landing without a belly landing. You don't see those often. It's only selling burgers, though.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah, and then it just plows into a concrete barrier. And a bunch of people on Twitter are going, ooh, why they put the concrete barrier at the end of the runway? It's not the end of the runway. They were landing on it in the opposite direction for whatever reason. They're still figuring out what's going on. So at first, the pilot was told, I believe the pilot was given a warning that there were a lot of birds in the area.
Starting point is 00:14:47 so they were given this bird strike warning. And then they decided to go around. And I want to say they went around a second time. And nobody knows why. There appears to have been nothing wrong. There might have been some hydraulic issues, but that wouldn't. There's fail safes where they should have been able to put down the landing gear.
Starting point is 00:15:07 There's like a manual hand hatch right there in between the seats in the cockpit. But the pilot was coming in way too fast. He had no flaps or anything on. What are you smiling at? I mean, just the way you talk about planes, it's just... I'm just like, why does he know about the emergency handgrank in the middle for the landing here? I don't know. Just in case, just in case, man.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You ever know? They may be like, the pilots are passed out and we can't figure out the landing gear. I would go, I got you. But like, where did you even find this out? I don't know. You just pick things up. Here and there. But this was a 737-800.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And up until this crash, Juju had a perfect safety record. And I just learned this. They were the biggest of nine South Korean low-cost carriers. And yeah, I was reading this stat that the risk of death from air travel is still one for every 13.7 million passengers. It's still very safe despite all this.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But so, yeah. Yeah, but is it going up? That's my real question. No, no. It's gone down. It's gone down significantly, in fact. Air travel, there are still problems internationally. Yes, but is it currently going up, like, in this moment?
Starting point is 00:16:33 No. It is not, as far as I know. But so there's still a lot of mysteries. I'm not to check the stats on that. Why the fuck did this pilot? He also landed so far down the runway that there was like nothing left for him to except for that fucking barrier. There was a nearby airport
Starting point is 00:16:51 that he could have diverted to if he had landing your problems. There's a nearby airport he could have diverted to that had a much longer runway. I'm sure once they get that black box out of there, we'll find out. Yeah. I'll just make the whole thing out of the black box.
Starting point is 00:17:05 You know, okay, so this is not racist, but... It's definitely racist. It's not. What I'm about to talk about is not racist. It's just an interesting tidbit. And it has since shifted in a better way toward better practices and whatnot. But the learning, there was an old Reddit thread from like R-slash Aviation that was shared on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:17:34 It's an anecdote from an American pilot who like 12 years ago was in South. It's cultural. Welcome to the show, everybody, Vivek Ramoswamy. No, you don't even know what I'm about to say. This guy was sharing anecdotes about training pilots in, I believe it was South Korea. He was hired by, I forgot which airline, hired by this airline to train South Korean pilots. And he said that these pilots had the books memorized. Fully fucking memorized.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Could tell you anything like, hey, what do you do in this situation? Oh, and they'd recite it from the book. You're saying they need more sleepovers, more saved by the bell. That's going to be so confusing to people if they don't know yet the other thing. But so, this guy's, this guy was, hey, listen up, but so, I need you to not, this guy was saying, hey, but so's, it doesn't, it's good that you've got the entire book memorized, but it doesn't help in practical. He was, it's, he was, uh, there was a different, there was a different, wasn't talking to Matt Damon and Goodwell hunting. He said, you've read all these books, but you've never been out in the world. You've never, you've never loved a woman.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You've never. Yes. And that's what I'm telling you, South Korean boys. Yes. You need to get out there and experience life. Not only that, but when he would ride up some of these pilots who were learning, the airline would then write him up and be like, oh, this guy's difficult. He's not like working with us here.
Starting point is 00:19:07 He's not going along to get along. He was, basically, the standards at the FAA has globally are the highest most stringent standards. And I'm not saying that in any kind of air of superiority way. It's just a fact that that's there is no internationally cohesive set of
Starting point is 00:19:26 rules and regulations that everybody follows. You're saying these Koreans need to be a little bit more American. It actually changed because it was known. It was a well-known fact that the regulations there were different. And so the rest of the international flying community basically cracked
Starting point is 00:19:42 down and said, hey, you guys are experiencing way too many accidents, way too many pilots failing to meet up to, to be up to snuff on these standards, get your act together, or you're going to be like kind of cast aside and you're not going to be able to enjoy the fruits of the economic, whatever, of having more international flights. They got their act together. Gigi was a very successful, safe airline. The pilot was very good. Had a great track record. So it's a big mystery, but it's very interesting stuff. And that concludes our segment on plane crashes. Now let's talk about this honey scam, man.
Starting point is 00:20:23 You didn't know anything about it. Talk about that before the Vivek and Elon stuff? I don't know. What do you want to do? You want to talk about Vivek and Elon? Yes, it's very funny. It is very funny. Very insane.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Stay my line to the people, if they've been living under Iraq. What are they going to do? Don't get your dick smashed. If you've been living under a rock Maybe get out of there Find a more decent place to live Yeah, yeah, please Unless it's rent controlled under that rock
Starting point is 00:20:53 Weren't you the one telling me You didn't understand that Patrick Starr and Spondrob lived under a rock Because he's dumb Wait, no, that wasn't me Oh Plus he lives under a rock But he's got like a dwelling down there
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah, but the whole point is he lives under a rock Yeah, because he's a big idiot. Yeah. I mean, anyone, if you hear Patrick Starr speak, you know that he's dumb. I wouldn't go that far. I would. I wouldn't understand that. He literally sounds like, duh.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Sure, but anyway. I mean, that's his whole thing. I'm Epey, man. You're what? I've been smoking so much weed. I feel dumber this week. Why are you smoking so much weed? Because it's the holidays, man.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Nothing counts. This doesn't count. No, this counts. This counts for sure. I mean, this is what the effort that we put forward. All right, let's, so if you've been, living in Iraq. Elon Musk, the now owner of Twitter,
Starting point is 00:21:46 had a bit of a meltdown. And the president of this country. And the de facto president of the United States had a big meltdown on Twitter alongside his Doge co-conspirator, Vivek Ramoswamy. And it was all around
Starting point is 00:22:02 immigration and Indians. And it kind of exposed a lot of like... It caused a fracture within the MAGAR world because their whole thing is America first. Trump kind of captured that energy. And so they're very confused watching their boy talk about how important Indians in the H-1B
Starting point is 00:22:27 visa program are to tech. And they don't understand why they're not filling those jobs with white Americans or just Americans. Americans, but probably the underlying implication is white Americans. I mean, seeing some of the backlash, it's like, oh, Oh, you guys hate Indians. Like, they fucking, dude, mask off, full on, super offensive. Like, whoa, have you seen some of the...
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah, I think, but I think that's been my experience, like, since Elon took over is... I'm sure it was always there. I think that the moderation team, which he did away with, largely was keeping a lot of that from our timelines. And it is surprising. to see, you're like, holy shit. He's like, whoa. Just out and out.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Saying it. But it started with Trump naming this Indian-born venture capitalist guy. His name is Surraham, Teram Krishna as an advisor on AI policy. And then living ghoul, Laura Lumer, and if you don't know who she is, she's some absolutely hideous inside and out, MAGA, just trying to cling on to. I'd love that you say Maga. What is it again? It's Maga. Marga.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Laura Lumber, I don't even want to look at her. It gives me nightmares, man. She looks like a caricate. Think of a racist caricature of a Jew. That's what she looks like. I said it. It's okay. I said it.
Starting point is 00:23:59 So she, in response to Trump appointing this guy, she starts spouting off about it not being Maga. Maga. This is not what Maga is about. God damn, dude. This is not MAGA. And then she says the United States was built by white Europeans, not fucking dirty Indians. I've actually got news for you, Laura.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah. It really wasn't. No, it wasn't. They might have been the ones blowing the whistle. You might want to dust off the history. Yeah. And so that was Sunday last week. And then on Wednesday, Elon Musk tweets that there aren't enough, quote, super talented
Starting point is 00:24:41 super motivated Americans. Like there's not enough of these super talented, super motivated engineers and he likened it to a sports team. He's like, we need the best players to have the winningest team.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And then Lumer accused Elon Musk directly of buying influence. Just immediately like shut him down. It was like, whatever bitch, you're a billionaire who bought his way into, you're not original MAGA.
Starting point is 00:25:08 You're just a... He bought your way in with your $250 million. And then Elon pretty much immediately, everybody who was coming after him, I believe there was a Spaces that he hosted, which is like the live streaming stuff, he like took away the check marks, the blue check marks in there. Start de-platforming people. Which is like so anti-free speech.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I mean, what a shock. It was never about that. Of course. And then Vivek Ramoswami chimes in and we got to read his thing. Yeah, this is, it's important. Like, we have to read this whole thing. So read it. all about this culture thing. That was the thing I was alluding to. It's going to
Starting point is 00:25:45 drive you nuts. The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers over Native Americans isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit, in parentheses, a lazy and wrong explanation. A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture. Tough questions demand tough answers, and if we're truly serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the truth. Which is what, Vivek? also very important to know while Elon was having his meltdown and Elon was talking about how there's this clear efficiency gap and education gap and whatever. Someone said, well, then why don't you build a schools or whatever? And he was like, if you need schools, you're
Starting point is 00:26:26 already fucked or whatever. Yeah, that's what is your, like. And you're gutting the Department of Education. I don't understand what you fucking. Okay. So he keeps going. Our American culture has venerated mediated. Venerated. Venerated. Venerated. Mediocrity over excellence for for way too long, at least since the 90s and likely longer. That doesn't start in college. It starts young. A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math Olympiad champ or the jock
Starting point is 00:26:50 over the valedictorian will not produce the best engineers. A culture that venerates Corey from Boy Meets World, who was he ever, like, seemed like a normal nice kid. Yeah, he was like the normal guy. Yeah. Or Zach and Slater over screech and saved by the bell. Someone did note on Twitter that Zach got like a
Starting point is 00:27:06 1550 on his SATs or something. Or Stefan over Steve Urkel in Family Matters will not produce the best engineers. Fact, I know multiple sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows
Starting point is 00:27:20 precisely because they promoted mediocrity and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates. More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of friends. My man is obsessed with pop culture. More math tutoring. Fewer sleepovers.
Starting point is 00:27:37 More robots like Terminator. Less like, what's, the Disney one. Wally. More weekend science competitions. Fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating less chill-in. More extracurriculars, less hanging out
Starting point is 00:27:54 at the mall. Yeah. Most normal American parents look skeptically at those kinds of parents. More normal American kids view such those kinds of kids with scorn. If you grew up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve. Now, close your eyes and visualize which families you knew in the 90s or even
Starting point is 00:28:10 who raise their kids according to one model versus the other. Be brutally honest. Normalcy doesn't cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we'll have our asses handed to us by China. This can be our Sputnik moment. We've awakened from slumber before and we can do it again. Trump's election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up.
Starting point is 00:28:33 A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy, excellence over mediocrity, nerdiness over conformity. hard work over laziness. That's the work we have cut out for us rather than wallowing in victimhood and just wishing or legislating alternative hiring practices into existence. I'm confident we can do it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Clearly, this guy has never seen revenge of the nerds where the nerds are in charge and the nerds rule the school and show that the jocks are actually big losers. And the nerds win in the end. They get the women. They get the girls. Yeah, I also don't, yeah, there's so much in here.
Starting point is 00:29:08 The social network? The culture shit is very weird. where it's like, I don't know if that is our dominant culture, especially now, like, maybe in the 90s, but I don't think our dominant culture is like, jocks rule fucking nerds will kill him. We absolutely prioritize. Like, even if that was what it was in the 90s, which I'm not entirely confident it was, what you got was people like you winning, fucking tech hocksters, technocrats running fucking
Starting point is 00:29:35 everything and ruining it. And now you get to be a... a prominent figure in political culture and telling people that, like, the problem is chilling. You're not allowed to fucking chill anymore. You need to be, like, maximizing efficiency at all times. You need to be a fucking machine. You need to be preparing your child to maximize shareholder value.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah. There is no, there's no fun. There's no hanging with friends. It's fucking STEM. It's fucking, like, if they are interested in the arts, your kid is defective. He's not going to be, he's not going to be competitive on the goal. goal of market. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It's just like, I mean, so real fast, just to sum it up, you had, you had Elon Musk, you had the pushback for Donald Trump appointing this, this foreign-born, Indian-born guy. You had a bunch of MAGA idiots getting upset about it. And then you had Elon and Vivek defending. So the whole thing started shifting around H-1. B visas because what is an H1B visa?
Starting point is 00:30:44 It's like an emergency. You have to have a specialty knowledge to be brought in. It's supposed to have a cap at, I'm blank if it's either 65 or 85,000, but they have all these exemptions, so it's really closer to like 3 or 400,000.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And they're saying it's because we need to bring in more talent that can handle these tasks and stuff like that and we don't have enough talent in America, so you have to let us or we're going to suffer on the global stage. Hence why you tend to get people from places like India or China. The truth is, it's just an exploitive practice that allows them to bring in cheap labor.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Because people from MAGA were scouring job openings for... And a lot of them were entry-level things for H-1B visas. It's been an open secret forever. And it is not a race thing. Like, I fully believe people should be able to come to the country. I don't think they should become, be here to, you know, be pitted against American workers. And honestly, treat it horribly. They, uh, someone from Google, a bunch of people have been posting when they were at companies that they would look, they would see the salaries that H-1B employees were making.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And it was obviously way less than like the lowest paid, um, American employee. you're at the whim of your employer because they're sponsoring you if you you know fuck up or don't comply you can get fired meaning you're deported it's uh it's just a way to so it's in other words it's things that so Elon and Vivek we're going you don't understand there's a talent sure it's not that we that corporations prefer this stuff over Americans it's that you Americans are too stupid and lazy and entitled because of a lack of education. So we, we job creators have to go hire these, uh, this, this, this cheaper immigrant H-1B visa labor. And then people were going, well, yeah, why not help educate the American
Starting point is 00:32:53 populace then? And they were going, no, you're too stupid for that too stupid. You guys are just too stupid. And if you do try to get an education, sorry, you went to a woke factory and got programmed by the woke machine. Yeah. It's, it's, it's like you can't fucking win. It was fascinating. It was fascinating to watch unfold because they're just getting fucking attacked left and right. Because it's a very they kind of are like
Starting point is 00:33:16 giving away the game a little bit. Yeah, big time. Trump captured the sentiment with a, because for so long though, the prevailing Republican message was not very appealing, right?
Starting point is 00:33:29 If you're if you're unsuccessful or poor or struggling or whatever, because you're not working hard enough, right? Why don't you just pull yourself up by your bootstraps, you fucking lazy shit? And obviously everyone was like,
Starting point is 00:33:45 get off welfare. Yeah, fuck you. But Trump was able to drum up a different message of like, it's not your fault. It's actually immigrants. Immigrants. Yeah, come and taking your job. Globalists and, you know, all these other things.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And then very quickly, Vivek and Elon are like, actually, it is your fault. and you're stupid, and I can't hire you because of that. But the truth is, it's not your fault. They just want cheap fucking labor. And they want to be able to control them. They don't want a labor force that can unionize. They don't want any of these things.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Well said, my man. That's just... And it's also, it's just funny because at the same time, they're railing against the American culture and education system for falling short of international standards where international students and engineers, and whatnot who are a product of their superior system are superior. And it's like, okay, then fucking instead of,
Starting point is 00:34:42 how about instead of dismantling the Department of Education that you guys were absolutely just so open and bragging, braggadocious about, how about reforming that and putting an emphasis on the STEM subject? Because, yeah, we do need to be more competitive. We do suck. There is, there's, man, it's an alarming. amount of students these days who are functionally illiterate
Starting point is 00:35:09 suck at math. Don't want to get in any of these things. That are like, look, we're fighting a save education and by that we mean we want to make sure it's mandatory
Starting point is 00:35:19 to teach the Ten Commandments. Yeah. Oh, that's what we need. Yeah. I have had it. And these guys, yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:25 these fucking, it's funny because, yeah, well, because then Elon and them they had to backtrack, not backtrack, but clarify.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Like, look, I am all about... He kind of did. He's like, look, all I'm saying is we should allow the top talent to come here and exploit them. But we should allow, we want the best players on our team and pay them significantly less than we would have to pay, you know... And make sure they work on holidays and don't get... 80 hours a week.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah. Because their culture emphasizes that. Yeah, because their culture wants to fucking bust hump to get here. It's not only that, though. It's also coercive. They have to play ball a little bit. Like there is a, there's an element of like, I need to, I don't want to get deported. I don't want to get sent out.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah. And I remember, dude, these same people are also saying, oh, college is a fucking scam and a waste of time. We need more people going into trades. And it's now obvious that they're trying to shift the culture and the popular kind of conscience away from that so that they can, yeah, oh, but we need all these fucking engineers, man. So let's get them from the, let's juice those.
Starting point is 00:36:34 margins. God bless America. God bless it. It's, it has been fun to watch them. Yeah. All eat each other. Yeah. That's your meritocracy at work, bitch.
Starting point is 00:36:46 You want to compete with the, the, the guy from India. I've had it. But I don't know, I don't know if you mentioned this, but Trump did come out and say he backs Elon. Yeah. Yeah. So it is a very. And at this point, they got their votes. What is it fucking matter?
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah. They're at this point, what, three weeks or what? three weeks away from being inaugurated and getting to work on all this. But meanwhile, holy shit, when folks, when I say, I mean, I'm a internet user. I'm out there. I'm in the trenches. It's pretty racist stuff out there on a daily basis. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:22 But when I say that this stuff was on another level, you got to believe me. I mean, granted, I don't know what fucking program this is, but here's this guy talking about Indians in lieu of all this. parasites wiping cow dung on their face and then like sleeping with white men's wives you know because oh well he's a doctor and I could have a better life over here you know and then the next thing you know you was some fat fupa stinky like disgusting cow dung ridden dot-head Indian that will never assimilate into your culture ever they brush their teeth with this stuff they eat soup that's this stuff they're disgusting parasitic people and then we want to embrace them and then Fox tells you how excited you should be that all of these Indians are coming here and that we're going to be so much more intellectually advanced and technologically sound because of the Indians. No, they are third world parasites and they're pieces of crap. I don't know where this came from. I truly, I mean, like you said, I thought that it was always just kind of, I thought that that kind of stuff was relegated to, you know, the annals of 4chan and stuff. This, the anti-Indian thing. But yeah, they love to, I guess whatever
Starting point is 00:38:31 puts white people on top if you can compare yourself to a country like India that has a lot of really, really deep, deep poverty it relatively
Starting point is 00:38:47 speaking paints you in a positive light cow dung eating. Jesus, God, man. Yeah, I mean, that's just yeah, I don't even know that's but yeah, probably the funniest thing to come out of this is the Adrian Dittman. Oh, yeah. I'm going to say something
Starting point is 00:39:10 controversial here. I don't think it's him. So, okay, so for my mom and anyone who doesn't know, there is this anonymous person on Twitter who goes by the moniker Adrian Dittman, who by all accounts sounds exactly like Elon Musk but he claims to not be and tweets in his style tweets in his style
Starting point is 00:39:39 but also very laudatory of Elon like commenting on things like you're such a good father all these weird things very Elon effusive over how it is and just defends him at every turn
Starting point is 00:39:53 and this is him going he hosts I want to say daily live shows on Twitter and this was him going off on on the on a lot of these
Starting point is 00:40:07 MAGA people who who are not being gracious enough to their technical overlord let's play it. And ironically enough some elements of the extreme
Starting point is 00:40:20 legacy MAGA movement will have to deal with it as well because that's how it is. I don't hate the fucking big tech bros. Because out of all of them, Elon is the only one that's giving all of these crackheads a fucking voice.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I want you to try and pull that shit on fucking Facebook and see how long you last. You're ungrateful motherfuckers, seriously. You keep crying censorship to, censorship that. You're not censored. Your takes just suck. Get over it. And get over yourselves. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I'm not an enemy of anyone. But if you hate me for saying this, so fucking be it. I don't care. I'm part of what's new. You get to make that choice yourself. Do better. Anyways, thank you all for coming today. And ironically...
Starting point is 00:41:09 So, there was another clip that I couldn't find where he really starts to yell and it doesn't sound like him when he starts to yell. Wasn't someone saying he uses a voice modulator or something like that? I mean, it's possible. But I think, no matter how you look at it, that guy's voice sucks ass and is, like nails on a chalkboard to me. I just can't stand either of them.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I mean, it's not even worth playing, but there is a, they did a spaces together. Yeah. And people are saying it's either pre-recorded or he's not Adrian, but it's, they laugh similarly. It's, it's, it's, it's just fucking weird. But he talks so much, not, not even the voice. Yeah, his cadence. But, and the subject matter. Like, when you listen to them, talk to each other. Yeah. He's talking about how, you know, yeah, when I first found out about you, Elon, someone told me, you need to listen to this, you sound like this guy. And that's when in my mind, I was going, wow, there's, there truly is some kind of glitch in the matrix. And I'm like, okay, it's not just sounding like, you guys are, you guys talk the, about the same
Starting point is 00:42:13 inane bullshit. But it's very embarrassing. There's, you know, it's just to talk like him and be this much of a stand, like he, so Elon posts a picture of him with his son, X on his back, and he says, my son, little ex, loves clinging precariously to my back and yelling monkey rides. Adrian Dittman replies, you're an amazing father, Elon. Your kids are very lucky to have you. Very sad. It's very sad, because if it is Elon, oh, babu, my man, everybody hates you. It really is tragic that you can win everything.
Starting point is 00:42:52 You can gobble up as much power and money as you want, but you're still just going to have to create an alt count to tell yourself that you're a good father and that people love you. Someone, someone said, so one billionaire fumbled a weird chick and now we have to deal with the fallout from it or something like that because Grimes obviously. Yeah. Who tweeted, by the way, did you see what she said about Christianity? Yeah, she's getting into Christianity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:15 She said like, this is super embarrassing, but I have to get into Christianity just to quit vaping. Oh my God. Yeah, she's getting... Maybe Vivek has a point. If we, maybe if people were nicer to nerds, when they, when they got older, they didn't carry around so much resentment
Starting point is 00:43:32 from their childhood that they needed to make everyone suffer. I mean, when, if you go back and watch when Elon first sold whatever fucking company
Starting point is 00:43:41 and made a couple hundred million dollars, he bought that McLaren car, and then he said, oh, to the news people who were interviewing me, he's like,
Starting point is 00:43:50 I've always wanted to be on the cover of Rolling Stone, so maybe I'll get to be on the cover of Rolling Stone, and it's like, that's all he's ever fucking cared about. He tweets like 20 times,
Starting point is 00:43:58 a day, 30, however much. Yeah. It's just, I'm, uh, I know, and I know a lot of you guys out there are really sick of it. So are we. So I apologize. But this was too good a story to, to, to not talk about, especially with this alter ego. Especially what it means for kind of the, you know, the right is clearly the ascendant power right now.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Uh, and he's one of the major faces. Yeah. And it's, it's, I mean, it's going to have real repercussions for. Yeah. Maga. You're seeing it with, I mean, it's fucked up because it's just very strange. I think I have one of them. It's like people saying they should have voted for Kamala, but for other racist reasons.
Starting point is 00:44:42 This one's... Wait, what? Like, okay, I should just send this because it won't make sense. People should see it. It's, I just can't believe it. But this person says, never thought I would regret not voting for Kamala. At the end of the day, tacos are better than street shitting. And it's a cartoon picture of a path.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Pork in the road. One is towards mass immigration, but Mexican. And that's what Kamala's did for. And one is towards mass immigration Indian. And that's what Trump stands for. But he might be, I mean, you can never tell anymore. It's probably a joke. It's probably a screenshot that I fucking missed it anyway.
Starting point is 00:45:23 But I wish them a very happy... A civil war amongst each other. I hope, you know, Steve Bannon and Laura Lumer and... Oh, well, that was the other thing. Steve Bannon actually went off on Elon and said, like, you're a globalist and we don't want you as part of our movement. Did you see that? Pretty great.
Starting point is 00:45:44 He fully goes off on him. We don't need to watch it. I put it in there, but yeah, he said, you're not even an American. All you are is a globalist. and he's just yeah everybody's
Starting point is 00:45:59 got their issues with Elon because he fucking sucks I mean it's all just very sad too I don't know the the like the tech
Starting point is 00:46:09 maximizing everything maximizing everything is just so fucking bleak the like people literally saying less sleepovers it's just like dude can't a kid just be a fucking kid
Starting point is 00:46:21 you freak Well, what's also been alarming to me is there's some tech people who I've never seen tweet anything about cultures or anything talking about, yeah, there's actually a lot of Hindu men will, if you bring them into your organization, will prioritize helping and working with the other Hindu men within your organization. This is just like a fact. It's a cultural thing. And I'm not making a judgment call it. I'm like, I've not. no idea. Wow, that's astonishing. It's just wild. I don't know what's going on. There's all these people coming out of the woodwork being like, yeah, actually, there's just a lot of
Starting point is 00:47:04 latent Indian racism out there that I had no idea existed. I don't, all I know is like words for it, Hindu, I don't know. They're clearly exploiting this visa program for, I mean, And it's, I have friends who work at Google and in tech. And, you know, remember it was probably 20, 22 with all the big tech layoffs and stuff like that. And, you know, they would lay off thousands of people. And all of a sudden those jobs would just be given to H1B visa program people. You hate that because you want it to be white American born. No. I, you know, it's funny because I have, I, I know someone involved in doing, you know, working with the unionizing effort at Google. And it's like a very precarious thing. They have to do a lot of things
Starting point is 00:47:56 secretly. Google obviously doesn't want that going on. People get fired when they get, you know, found out. They find like communications about unionizing. Um, and after the layoffs and watching their jobs go to people who are just paid much less, they're like, we should have, we should have unionized, we should have done something sooner so we had protections and it's like, oh my God, you know, it takes getting your job shipped out
Starting point is 00:48:23 to be like, oh, fuck. Nobody's safe. Not even you. Yeah. But that's all it is. They want cheap labor. And then as soon as they can, they're going to automate that cheap labor away anyway.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about the bird flu, shall we? So yeah, I've been on this for over a year. year and it went from being afraid of it going bird to bird to mammal to mammal to mammal to mammal and then mammal to human and that's where we're at now and everything is setting up why were you afraid of it because of this exact reason i was afraid of it escalating to the point where it could lead to human to human transmission because what about bird flu as opposed to some of
Starting point is 00:49:07 these other this one is just from what i'd read is particularly um it poses the The most significant risk because it's highly transmissible and it is also quite potentially deadly. So it's that perfect combination where it's just enough to cause a major disruption and be a major pandemic. But also, you know, it's going to cause these fucking COVID kind of idiots to be like, I'm not doing anything. I don't believe shit because you guys lied to us. No, nobody lied to you. It's just you're a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I guess there were some information that wasn't at all accurate, but nobody really knew. That's what everybody kind of forgets about COVID is. Everybody was, even the professionals and those in charge, they were learning as they were going about what it was, how it spread, who it affected, and so on. But so what I've been harping on is how I don't necessarily, I don't subscribe to the notion that we're in a simulation, but if we are, things are. setting up to where it just makes sense. It's just the proper narrative. I phrased it to my friends Adam and Leah because they were texting me about it asking my take. And I said it's just that
Starting point is 00:50:25 we're in a timeline where the dumbest outcome is the most likely. Yeah, that's been a thing people say for a while. Yeah, the dumbest are most entertaining. Even Elon has co-opted that. Yeah. And when you look at everything together, it's just setting up that way. And it has echoes from COVID, which is in December of 2019, nobody was really paying attention yet to what was happening in China, people dropping dead on the streets, whatnot, and all that stuff. The market was at all-time highs and didn't care. Same thing now. Market is just under all-time highs. Nobody seems to care. It's starting to happen here in the United States. We're starting to see people talking about it on on the news and stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Trump is going to pull out of the WHO because it's fucking useless. You got RFK with the anti-vaccine stuff. The general distrust in all of the authority body, authority bodies, bodies of authority, whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And yeah, and then I've been following this account that keeps track of these Facebook backyard chicken all the way from just having a couple chickens to dozens, if not hundreds. and it is so entertaining. So, yeah, this, this, this, it's from outbreak updates.
Starting point is 00:51:46 So take it with the grain of salt. But, so like, here's a person whose bird is showing multiple signs of severe respiratory illness and they're just like, I've quarantined her in, the chicken is sick. I've quarantined her in my bathroom away from the rest of the birds, but I've given her, I've given her water and probiotic. Basically, these people are, like, exposing themselves. to their sick chickens. Let's pull up another one, or the other two.
Starting point is 00:52:13 They're too fucking good. Chicken, oh yeah, chicken Reddit is a fucking horror show. Sick birds everywhere. The advice, smell their breath. Dude, what the fuck? Here, here, backyard chickens. Can someone tell me what's wrong with FruFru? Give the bird a physical examination with your hands.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Check the mouth. He's fucking with her. Smell her breath. He's got to be fucking with it. Listen for her lungs. Feel for lumps. Fluids and body cavities. Look under the feathers at the condition.
Starting point is 00:52:38 of her skin. Check for mites. Examine the vent. This is the problem with the AI stuff and them trying to fix all the search engines and everything. It could be AI. They broke all of them and the only way to get a real answer was Reddit, but they didn't factor in that
Starting point is 00:52:54 Reddit is full of trolls. Yeah. I don't know. This one doesn't seem who would be trolling fucking chicken backyard chickens? Let's look at the last one because there's a picture associated with it and it's just too good. Uh, hi, extremely worried chicken, as my son call it, mum here. I have, uh, three, three week old babies.
Starting point is 00:53:15 One of them today has been very lethargic and snugly, and weird noises like crackling slash creaking have been coming from its abdomen. I hatch these beautiful babies myself, and we are all very bonded to say the least. And it's a photo of her with the baby bird nestled right up against her, uh, fucking cheek. and yeah so I don't know what's going on man but just stay vigilant out there folks Ben do you think that's poop on her shirt yeah that looks like poop that little bit of white it looks like poop we're so fucked yeah
Starting point is 00:53:49 I mean it doesn't seem like the cases are exploding that's how it was with COVID it went from we've got the first case in the United States and the market kept going to all time highs and I was like what the fuck we've got it here now and then it went from one to like six to like a dozen and then before you know it it was no tom hanks got it and then tom hanks got it and then tom hanks got it everyone said wow america's sweetheart if it can happen to him can happen it's just like when uh what's his name got eight magic johns
Starting point is 00:54:21 um hanks magic jones um should we talk let's talk about honey i just i mean it just sucks that this anti-social behavior is like is what they want to promote it's just so fucking you know there's already like a loneliness crisis because everyone and that's a product of their worldview right which is that nothing else matters except for being highly competitive don't get me wrong I agree that
Starting point is 00:54:44 America has to be competitive on the world scale but Jesus God man we already won America's number one we fucking have so much money and resources and wealth and power and influence and everything can't we have a fucking three day weekend it just also seems ridiculous
Starting point is 00:55:00 when you're you can't talk about that and then also say we want to shut down the Department of Education. We don't want to invest in those things. If you were talking about that, like, hey, we want our kids to be the smartest in the world. We want our people to be the healthiest, whatever. Great. But that's just not the fucking case. All they fucking care about is cheap labor. That's it. Yeah. I mean, do they not want any, like, art in the world? No, that's for losers and it's gay. Boy, you're looking at me. I'm just, It's just like a, I think it's like a bleak outlook.
Starting point is 00:55:37 They, you know, and these are the people who are in charge of everything. I mean, it's just the, just fucking grim. I think either that or they're scammers like the people, the good folks at Honey. Nice. Which was acquired by PayPal for four billion dollars. And so, so, uh, honey. You're probably familiar with it. It's the, TMG did ads for him.
Starting point is 00:56:02 okay drag that I'm not dragging that's the thing here I know all of the influencers who did this I do not blame them at all because they were victims in this too had they come across our dust I had no idea we had done ads for them yeah I remember when it first came out I was like okay that seems like a good idea for a plug-in yeah you add it to your Chrome and it they say you know we search the internet for you you want to buy something
Starting point is 00:56:28 run it through honey we'll see if there's any coupons we'll get you you know, maybe we'll get you 50% off that thing you were going to pay full price for. That's exactly what they purported to do. And we offer you a guarantee, you know, we're getting you the cheapest prices. And in many ways, sometimes they did do that. Sometimes they did work as they should have. But the major thing that came out was that, or it was discovered rather, was that so you know how your favorite influencer will sometimes have a link in the description
Starting point is 00:56:56 or whatever to, hey, if you want to buy this book that I recommended or the camera that use, they have what's called an affiliate link where they're not selling. So like if I were to say, hey, if you want to cop Emil's water jug, check the link in the description and you can click it. We're not selling it directly, but we would get a commission from REI for selling it on their behalf. Maybe it's 35 bucks. Maybe it's 35 percent, whatever it may be. The big, big creators, the Marquez Brownleys wouldn't notice that if their affiliate link
Starting point is 00:57:36 income took a bit of a hit, but smaller creators started to notice that they were getting significantly reduced commissions like normal because sometimes you can track it and keep track of what's normal
Starting point is 00:57:48 and what's not. We should, we should, can you remind me the name of the guy who broke the story? Yeah. It took mega something? Mega lag. Mega lag.
Starting point is 00:57:58 He noticed. that he was getting significantly lower commissions from his affiliate links and started doing some digging, major, major digging and figured out that what Honey was doing was if I go, if you were to go and buy this REI mug, when you make it to check out, if you had the Honey extension installed, it would prompt you, hey, do you want us to scan this website for any additional savings, 10%?50, whatever we find. Everybody's going to click. Yeah, why not? Because why not?
Starting point is 00:58:30 What have you got to lose? Upon doing so, Honey has now hijacked the affiliate link from the creator and was taking... They were so greedy. Like, just take five bucks or something. Even if they don't find you anything.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah. They would run it and go, oh, sorry, we didn't turn anything up. And then they'd go, but we'll take the kickback. Yeah. They wouldn't tell anybody that. But they would just silently...
Starting point is 00:58:52 They were like the last cookie or whatever. They took the... The, whatever the internet... Behind the curtain shit, they stole that money. And they were doing it to the tune of millions and millions of dollars over the course of God knows how long. But they were also acting like mafiosos, which was my favorite part. They were going to websites and saying, hey, pretty nice shop here.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Be a shame if someone, something bad happened to it, you know? And they would threaten these websites and say, hey, we've got all these coupons out there And for like 20, 30, 40% off, we will show them to our customers unless you play ball with us. And then we'll either show them no coupons at all or we'll show them the ones that you want us to use. So they were just shaking everybody down. And it wasn't necessarily illegal. It was just exploiting various loopholes or just where there were no rules at all because the Internet is still in many ways of Wild West. They were also starting their own rewards program.
Starting point is 00:59:57 that would basically just screw people over from affiliate links and stuff like that. Rather than getting a $40 kickback, you'd get like $89 in their rewards program or something like that. It reminds me of those, and I think they're still out there, but those, you remember like quibbids? Did you remember seeing those commercials for like, I got a brand new MacBook Pro for $3? all you got to do is buy the tokens and then bid on these things yeah it was a wow it's still around
Starting point is 01:00:33 it's a retail website that operates as a bidding fee auction also known as a penny auction oh they've been sued it's a form of illegal gambling I mean how do they come up with this shit I mean but that's they're all just a fucking scam
Starting point is 01:00:51 This YouTuber, all he can really do is put the video out once he's realized because he's going to sue Honey who's backed by PayPal. Yeah. Well, I guess he probably didn't read the fucking
Starting point is 01:01:05 300 pages of disclosures and shit. I'm sure maybe it said in there that that's what we do. What we do is fuck you over. Yeah, what we're going to do is fuck you over. Not only that, they were actively
Starting point is 01:01:19 just screwing consumers over. they stopped, they stopped actually finding you the best deal. Oh, sure. It was just, they would either say nothing turned up or they would, um, uh, they would find you a deal that if you went and searched on your own, you would find a better coupon. Uh-huh. So the, the whole thing was just. Everybody was on it too.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Mr. Beef. He was, uh, he was one of their, he was one of their biggest guys. I mean, it seems like a no-brainer. You're like, why wouldn't I? And they would say that, too. It's literally free money. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:50 there's the ads of Mr. Bees being like, Honey literally puts money in your pocket. No, it doesn't. That's not how literally works, Mr. Beef. Yeah. Christ. I've been, I caught up on... Mr. Beef Games?
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah. Yeah, me too. That third episode was brutal. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. The Boner episode. The Boner episode. What?
Starting point is 01:02:13 You keep giving me this look. Are you okay? I was going to talk... I was holding myself back from talking about beef games. Beef games. I will say, though, for the non-bonuses, it's exactly what I hate about. Everything? No, like, every time I talk about game shows, I'm like, I can't stand watching some guy be like, I need this fucking money.
Starting point is 01:02:36 So it's literally a thousand people. And you get to just watch them fucking cry because they're not enough money. That's not even the ones who, that's not even including the ones who didn't make the initial cut to be part of the. thousand. Yeah. We'll talk about it. Yeah. But okay, real fast. We'll wrap it up with, for some reason, Trump's now just openly talking about annexing
Starting point is 01:02:59 Canada and Greenland. Not for some reason. It's sick. They should give it to us. We want that. So, he, let's just read his thing from Christmas. He said, Merry Christmas to all, including to the wonderful soldiers of China, who are lovingly, but illegally
Starting point is 01:03:15 operating the Panama Canal, where we lost 38,000 people in it's building 110 years ago, always making certain that the United States puts in billions of dollars in repair money, but we'll have absolutely nothing to say about anything. Also, in quotes. It's just, oh yeah, that's the third thing is we want to, we're going to like forcefully take back the Panama Canal. Also, it's a governor Justin Trudeau of Canada who's, oh, he called him governor Justin Trudeau. See, that's a nod to him eventually just being the governor of the state of Canada, whose citizens' taxes are far too high. But if Canada, he's,
Starting point is 01:03:49 Canada was to become our 51st state. Their taxes would be cut by more than 60%. Their businesses would immediately double in size. And they would be militarily protected like no other country anywhere in the world. Likewise to the people of Greenland, which is needed by the United States for national security purposes and who want the U.S. to be there. And we will. Page two, Merry Christmas to the radical F lunatics who are constantly trying to obstruct our court system in our elections and are always going after the great citizens and patriots of the United States, but in particular their political opponent, me. They know that their only chance of survival is getting pardons from a man who has absolutely no idea what he is doing.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Also, to the 37 most violent criminals who killed, raped, and plundered like virtually no one before them, but were just given incredibly a pardoned by Sleepy Joe Biden. I refuse to wish a Merry Christmas to those lucky souls, but instead we'll say, go to hell! We had the greatest election in the history of our country. A bright light is now shining over the USA. And in 26 days, we will make America great again. Merry Christmas. Christ.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Jesus God. I don't know what to do. I'm tired of living in interesting times. What do we do? We can't go to another country. Far-red fascism is on the rise. Also, what are you going to do? All around the world.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Why would you make Canada an entire state? At least chop it up into like 10. Well, it's not that popular. I know. Population-wise, it's probably about... They've already got their states. Can you name them? Saskatchewan.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Can I name all the states? Yeah. British Columbia. Okay. Quebec. Yeah. Northern territories. Northern territories.
Starting point is 01:05:34 UCon. Yukon. Do you have them all? New Finland? No. That's a... Alberta? Ottawa.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I think you're naming cities. Fuck. Can we name me? Can we name them? someone out there in Canada are one Canadian fan viewer. I don't like saying fan. Yeah, provinces. What are they?
Starting point is 01:05:57 Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba. Oh, I love that word. That just rolls right off the time. Oh, wow, I was wrong. New Brunswick and late Rabador. Yeah. Nova Scotia, Ontario. I'll never learn the 10 provinces. You can't make me. Prince Edward Island, Quebec, Saskatchewan.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Oh, man, yeah, I guess. And then there's three territories. Oh, it also has three territories. The Northwest West Territories, Nunavut and Yukon. The main difference between a province and a territory is how they're covered. We'll see in the bonus. It's going to be very fun. Yeah. You should come join us there.
Starting point is 01:06:27 I'm going to talk about how I humiliated myself. Ben and Emielshad.com. Also, Boston and New York, if you're still watching, come see us, baby. Check the links. Come, come, come, come.

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