The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 87: DOGE Chaos, CFPB Dismantled, Big Balls, Panic Time

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

As DOGE and its merry band of edgelord geniuses rip through the government unabated, the only thing we can do is sit back and watch. This week we'll dive in and see who's running things, what they're ...cutting, and the terrifying reality of who now has access to the Bureau of Fiscal Service. PORTLAND! We are coming April 13th! Come see us! https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/96128474/ben-and-emil-live-portland-hawthorne-theatre This week's bonus episode is a GOOD ONE baby. Sign up and support the show at https://benandemilshow.com ****HUGE shout out to Katherine Long and Nathan Tankus, whose writing on this subject has been so crucial. https://notesonthecrises.com LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa Leave a comment! Like this video! Tell a friend about our show! __ MANDO: Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo code BAES at https://Mandopodcast.com/BAES #mandopod FACTOR MEALS: Eat smart with Factor. Get started at https://factormeals.com/baes50off and use code "baes50off" to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. HIMS: Don't lose your hair, fellas!! Start your free online visit today at https://hims.com/BAES MOOMOO: Click this link https://j.moomoo.com/BAES to get up to 30 free stocks from moomoo U.S when you make a qualified deposit + earn 8.1% on uninvested cash for a limited time for new users!! Terms & Conditions Apply __ Latest MEATBALL SPECIAL HERE: https://youtu.be/uIOdsIn1Tdo Last week's episode HERE: https://youtu.be/qLhnYvL0eu8 We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U This episode was edited by Connor Rousseau / @ conrad_roussrad Follow us on instagram! @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So the biggest thing over the last week, as I'm sure you guys have seen, is everybody suddenly is an expert on this USAID. They got a lot of tofu eating wokeistas over there. Not all of them, but many. There's one employee who said this is a $40 billion agency they want to understand in a 30-minute meeting. Yeah, but this is fake news, Ben. Okay, the woke liberals. After all, Elon Musk is one of our greatest living inventors and entrepreneurs. He's just trying to bring us to Mars.
Starting point is 00:00:30 He just wants to make it so that we can all use X, the everything app. Let Elon Musk just take it over. He's so smart. He's so funny. He's so smart. He's so smart. Go on. I just hope they don't come for more of us, wokeistas, because I really don't want to lose my job. I'm looking down to town with Ben-N-N-Bee. Tell me what's going on.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Tell me what's going on. So listen on up to Ben-Bin. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. That's staticky, folks. Welcome back to another episode. I feel a little funny today, and I think it might have something to do
Starting point is 00:01:17 with the canned fish that I ate before the... Before we get into the canned fish, Portland, last time we forgot to put the link in the description for the show, but tickets are still going fast, so I would jump on that. Link will be in the description this time. April 13th.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We're coming to you April 13th. Sunday. God's Day. God's Day. One week before Easter, we will be obviously celebrating as the number one Christian finance podcast. Yeah, we'll lead the whole...
Starting point is 00:01:45 We're going to lead everybody in a prayer. It's going to be really great. We're going to do praise songs. Anything else? All the other things that you can do at church. Ching his praise. We'll be getting ready for Easter with you. Um, and, you know, we also have to say thank you to everyone in Boston and New York who came out. Boston was just a regular Ben and Emile live. That was very fun. Sold out crowd. Yeah, baby. Fun people. Yeah, baby. And New York, we did our weird little D&D show, which was very fun. I think we'll be coming back to do more of that. Yeah, because we just ran into the time limit there at the end and we didn't quite finish our mission. Well, there's just more to it. A journey? It's like a campaign. Yeah. Campaign, campaign.
Starting point is 00:02:30 But we'll be coming back for that. Yeah. And we'll be coming to more cities too. We'll be announcing them soon. So just sit tight and don't worry your sweet little tish. Yeah. But like Portland, for example, you know, if you're in Seattle, why don't you just bop down there?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Make it easy on yourself. Or Idaho, bop over there. Or northern California, bop up there. Iowa. Iowa. Missouri. Yeah, I, man, this canned mackerel I had. Holy God.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, there was more to it. Ugh. It was just such a big tin. I'm halfway through it, and I was like, I don't want to eat the rest of this. So I threw it away. And then I don't know if it was all the salt or what, but I feel kind of. And halfway through, I was like, God, if this gives me food poisoning, it would be such a bummer because I'm eating so much of it. I don't think, I, you know, your body can tell.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Anyway, I also just can't tell if I got, like, kind of sick from, from the show. from the shows because we were so it was so cold it was so cold Ben's delicate ecosystem I have a pretty resilient ecosystem for the most part actually that's in my experience not true
Starting point is 00:03:41 pretty much every time I've eaten a meal with you're like did that fuck your stomach up yeah but it's it's less that and more like getting sick sick I don't get sick very often which is surprising but I got the results from my seat from my MRI scan is that what it was
Starting point is 00:03:58 an MRI? You did it, pal. You got it. And they told me that I had a slightly enlarged prostate. Like, that's good. He's got a big one. And a slightly enlarged, some kind of thing in my brain is slightly big. And they were like, it's nothing to worry about.
Starting point is 00:04:15 But we noticed that it's a little big. And I was like, all right. And everything else is totally fine and normal. Big prostate. You know what they say about guys with big prostates? They can't be very good. They also got a big thing in their brain as well. Well, they don't know exactly what it does.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Anyway, folks, we got a heck of an episode for you this week. We briefly did touch on a bunch of this stuff last week, but the way that the news happens, you just can't be, you just can't get it up to date because it's constantly changing. Well, that was a bit of a weird one, too, because, you know, we were flying to the East Coast to do those shows. And we were recording on a Sunday.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah. So we were, some of this stuff was coming. out, but now, because we just briefly touched on what Elon Musk and Doge were doing over at the Treasury, and it has gotten so much crazier in such a little amount of time.
Starting point is 00:05:10 He's really trying to take a little wrecking ball to the American government here. Yeah, he's really on Mighty Cyrus mode. Yes, he's dancing around in a little, what's she wearing, like a brawn underwear. And he's straddling a wrecking ball. And
Starting point is 00:05:26 I'm actually really surprised he hasn't. A bunch of... A bunch of geriatric politicians are going, oh, geez. Yeah. He also changed his name to Harry Balls on Twitter, which is so funny. I think that that's so funny. It's really hilarious. And then he wrote something about something he's getting like a surgery on 69 something.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I didn't see that one. In his bio, he like changed it to say something about, can we, can you pull that up? Real high? Yeah. Oh, I guess he took it away. Oh, wow. He's back to being Elon Musk. Oh, wow. Man, that's epic. Epic. Epic, uh, epic sauce. Anyway. That's, yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. He really controls the narrative here. There's headlines all about how he's hairy balls now and just like that. You're back to just Elon Musk. I do like that. So we're not going to talk about this except for he did make an offer for just shy of $100 billion. for Open AI, like a controlling interest in it. And Sam Altman tweeted, just no thanks,
Starting point is 00:06:37 but maybe you'll accept $9.7 billion for Twitter or something like that. Yeah. And then he was, Sam Altman was interviewed, and it sucks because it's like, I dislike both of these guys very much. Well, so he was asked about the Elon Musk bid and what it means and how he thinks about it. And he just said, I thought it was really great. He said, You know, I actually feel bad for Elon Musk. I don't think he's a very happy guy. Well, first he said, I wish he would just compete by building a better product. I wish he would stop this nonsense about what he's doing with all this, all of his bullshit
Starting point is 00:07:11 with the Trump administration, all of his bullshit with Twitter and everything. And then, yes, at the end of the, you know, like three and a half minute clip, it's very funny. The guy asks him, do you think this offer is coming from a place of insecurity? I think meaning his insecurity around where X and X-A-I and Elon Musk are currently with their AI, but Sam Altman answered very funnily, he just said probably his whole life is from a position of insecurity. I feel for the guy. I don't think he's like a happy person.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Man, that is pretty damn good. I really do like that. uh well i mean i don't think he's wrong i think um i think it does come from a place of deep insecurity i think it's obvious and the reason i don't even know if i've got him muted so i have no idea if you even clapped back but i'm sure it would be a stupid take also i mean we've talked about it already how we are you know we're the losers here we've Elon musk won um as much as we've tried to dunk on him he's the big winner yeah but god it is uh very funny that a big theme of this show for however many years,
Starting point is 00:08:25 whatever iteration of it has been what a sack of shit this guy is. We've been early on the... A big wet sack. Hate train, too, even before the show. And we got ourselves a little King Musk. All right. So that brings us to what we're talking about today, which is Doge and these unelected...
Starting point is 00:08:47 I don't like doing the whole unelected thing because the people that you elect, then subsequently appoint. people but also it's very funny that they say like there's which i agree with the sentiment but i just it's not necessarily right these things of like we didn't elus we didn't we didn't elect ilan musk it's like but you kind of did he was a pretty yeah especially in the end there he's a big uh big part of the campaign the old south african jumping beam was coming out after at every yeah Elon replied to him with just swindler i forgot about that um i think people kind of
Starting point is 00:09:21 knew he was going to be a part of it. Yeah, but I don't think anybody who voted for Trump is complaining. I think it's people like us who are saying, hey, we didn't elect this clown. But it's true that like, hey, we also don't elect the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of the Interior. But in that case, you could say we didn't elect Trump. And it's like, well, sure, but the rest of the country did he won the popular vote? Exactly. So we've got him in Doge, and Doge is really,
Starting point is 00:09:51 going, the Department of Government efficiency is just going full bore straight into the very, what would you call it, the plumbing of the Department of the Treasury? You know, dismantling institutions that were kind of hollowed out already and there weren't a lot of people really trying to bolster American systems. Also important to know, we barely talked about it because honestly for so long it was such a joke uh doge was basically transformed from a Obama era uh department it was USDS US um digital service it was basically um this was like 2014 it was basically a cute little department to help you know keep modernize federal websites and uh simplified digital service all that kind of stuff and it is still technically USDS
Starting point is 00:10:50 It's United States Doge service now. They just made that D stand for Doge. And, you know, now it's their little arm to cut all of these things that they're calling corruption. A lot of other people are calling things that help make the American government run. And they're bitching that certain journalists are digging into who is in this group and calling it doxing and calling it all sorts of shit. Which is just, I mean, it gets exhausting just pointing out the hypocrisy because it should be obvious, but it's apparently not, that this department whose entire thing is all about transparency is so hell-bent on being as secretive as possible. I mean, not only that, he, you know, Elon Musk was doxing federal employees. Yeah, that too.
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Starting point is 00:14:17 Because they're, so like, just as an example, this poor woman who works for the Wall Street Journal, her name is Catherine Long. And I reached out to her to ask her to come on the show today, and she politely declined. But probably because she's going through the shit right now, getting absolutely fucking attacked. But she was the one who first brought, I don't think she was the first one to find one of these guys' tweets. But there's, bunch of these young men who are there's a handful of them working with doge and one of them is this marco elez and she reported on some of his tweets and he's he tweeted like normalize indian hate here i've got him right here so uh his tweets were dug up he resigned briefly Elon brought him back um we'll get into that uh so also it's important to know when these tweets were because am sympathetic to people. I don't think people should get fired for old tweets. I don't think especially like things people did as teenagers or whatever online. I don't think they should be held accountable for being a stupid kid. Early this kid was like 17 when he tweeted these
Starting point is 00:15:32 things years ago. Is that what you're about to tell us? Nope. This is last July. Just for the record, I was racist before it was cool. That's on his ex account. This is September. Same account. You could not pay me to marry outside of my ethnicity. Here's an earlier one. He expresses support for Israel, but added, I would not mind at all if Gaza and Israel were both wiped off the face of the earth. Then he said normalize Indian hate. Yeah, that's responding to, you know, the Indian people in Silicon Valley. And then, yeah, of course, there's all this hoopla about the right is defending, you know, we don't want to cancel people and cancel culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Which, again, cancel culture, whatever. People shouldn't be held accountable. This is months ago. But it's also the fact that this kid is in a position of extreme unchecked power for, in what he's capable of doing. He's got, if his tweets are any indication, this kid is wildly immature and has, is completely lacking in critical thinking skills, whatever, you name it. I wouldn't want this little shit being able to see my, just any of the stuff, in control of any of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And here's what a feckless loser, our vice president is, married to a, I think she might be Indian. She's South Asian of some. Here's my view. I obviously disagree with some of Alez's posts. So funny to say I disagree with some of them. I feel like maybe point out which ones you. Yeah. But I don't think stupid social media activity should ruin a kid's life. I agree, but these just happened. We shouldn't reward journalists who try to destroy people ever. So I say bring him back. If he's a bad dude or a terrible member of the team, fire him for that.
Starting point is 00:17:22 He seems like a bad dude and probably a terrible member for this team. Yeah. And also... And fucking stick up for your wife, you piece of shit. Yeah. And also a journalist who's bringing these things to light is not... Isn't her trying to ruin his life. It's more just making people aware of it.
Starting point is 00:17:40 it. I don't think she made any kind of declaration that this kid is horrible and should have his life ruined. But then, of course, Elon... She's just trying to point out, like, this is what the, this is what Doge is all about. Yeah. And Elon had a reaction. He said, she's a disgusting and cruel person. She should be fired immediately. Okay. And they accused her of doxing and trying to ruin his life. And then, of course, it's just, this is the hypocrisy that, that drives me insane is these guys love to go after journalists and say they spent so they say shit like
Starting point is 00:18:14 they spent so long trying to like ruin us and ruin our lives by saying by saying that trying to warn us trying to warn people about what type of people we would be once we're in power so let's get back at them by proving them exactly right
Starting point is 00:18:29 let's uh oh no these journalists went after us and said we were dangerous and stuff well fuck them now that we're in power let's go after them you're proving exactly. It's fucking exhausting, man. And I mean, just out and out racist. Yeah. The other one of the other kids is this 19 year old, if you scroll up just a little bit. He's got a broccoli haircut. His name is Edward Correstine, also known as
Starting point is 00:18:57 Big Balls Online. And the owner of Tesla.Sexe LLC. This kid was fired from a cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets. And this is what he looks like for the audio listener. Just imagine one of those I don't know you called it broccoli here. Is that the, is that what? That's the, I don't know. I've seen that's what they call him
Starting point is 00:19:19 sometimes. But you said there was a word for I don't know. It's like a. Zumer men like this. I know, I feel like there's a it's not like a. Ben wants there to be a slur for guys like this. God, it's not a Chad. He's not a Chad. But just some fucking cocky kid who probably loves to say
Starting point is 00:19:36 the N-word. Well, yeah. And there's reports of these, you know, groups of kids being sent into different agencies. And people are being hush and speaking in secrecy because they don't want to be retaliated against. By these children. Yeah. And by Elon Musk and his, you know, doj lackeys in general, talking about how they, they're given these 15-minute interviews with children where they have to prove their value to the agency. Yeah, we'll get more into that. So let's start with. the fucking U.S.Aid skin. You call it USAID.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Before we, because those are the, those are the younger lackeys. There hasn't been, they're not releasing any information about it, but there's been some other people about the higher ups, obviously. In Doge. Yeah. Steve Davis is one of these guys. I was just cracking up about some of his personal detail. So he's part of, part of Musk's boring company and is just crazy about, you know, reducing
Starting point is 00:20:36 expenditures and squeezing vendors and doing all this. Apparently after the Twitter takeover, he was calling data centers they were using and trying to eke out better deals with even the janitorial services that he just wanted to pinch every penny. But I like this from his time as a student. During his first day in Washington, Davis was working at SpaceX and pursuing a doctorate in economics at George Mason University. In 2008, when he observed a lack of frozen yogurt options in the district. He decided to fill the cap. He called the shop, Mr. Yogato. And it quickly gained a following, in part because of the oddball nature in which customers could earn discounts. Examples, customers who sang along to the 1980 song Mr. Roboto would receive a 10% discount.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I wonder how long you had to sing along to that. Customers who stump Davis on trivia from Seinfeld or Nicholas Cage's film, The Rock, got 10% off. But this is my favorite. In a 2015 interview with the journalist Jeff Perlman, Davis said he was an undergraduate business student when the 1998 film Armageddon inspired him to enroll in engineering school that led to graduate school in aeronautic engineering and eventually
Starting point is 00:21:46 SpaceX. In conclusion, my entire life path was redirected by a Bruce Willis movie. The movie's corny as shit. Even as a 10 year old, I was like... I fell asleep during it. I was like, this is long as fuck. I was like, boo this aerosmith's
Starting point is 00:22:02 song. And this guy was like... I want to do rockets. I need to change my whole life. I want to do rockets. I think it's a Michael Bay movie. It is a Michael Bay movie. I think this is just a good example of the surface level kind of guys we're dealing with. But then you have Amanda Scales.
Starting point is 00:22:18 It's all Elon Musk faithfuls. You know, she was working at XAI before becoming the chief of staff at the Office of Personnel Management, which functions as the government's human resources agency. Another one is Thomas Shed, who is now at the General Service Administration, which handles government real estate and federal IT structure. He told workers, he wants to implant artificial intelligence throughout government systems to write software and automate services. Musk himself said he wants to deploy AI to review government payments for potential waste. Cool. This is all going to go over well, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah. So the biggest thing over the last week, as I'm sure you guys have seen, is everybody suddenly is an expert on this. U.S.AID, which is, what does it stand for? The United States of America, International, International. I bet you can do it. International. The America's wrong. The A's already right. United States Aid.
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Starting point is 00:25:29 we're not going to get into it. Some people say it like runs cover for the CIA a little bit. Cool. But I mean, yeah. It falls under the Secretary of State and the State Department signs off on the spending. And so Marco Rubio, our new Secretary of State, has been delegating the work to Doge to go in and just fucking wreck the whole thing. And so far, Doge has put about all but about 600 of their 10,000 employees on. leave and has frozen spending, which is something that they're not really allowed to do, but somehow there. With all of these things, there's going to be these legal battles. Pretty much with everything they've done, there's going to be a judge somewhere blocking it, some kind of restraining order on all these options. You've seen it with everything, the funding freeze, the USAID, the treasury stuff. So we're going to see it all. layout. It's going to be very interesting. J.D. Vance is obviously one of these people who's
Starting point is 00:26:33 he's been talking about kind of ignoring court orders. He's been tweeting about this whole thing about, did you see the tweet? You wouldn't, you wouldn't have a judge block a general's orders. You wouldn't have a judge block, whatever. And it's like, well, you would hope if the general was committing war crimes. Yeah. They would make rulings on this. And, you know, we do need judges to rule on whether or not checks and balances. Constitutional law. Well, so, and to piggyback off that, this Republican Senator John Kennedy
Starting point is 00:27:06 said, in regards to USAID, they think they're a charity, and they're not. They got a lot of tofu eating wokeristas over there. Not all of them, but many. Elon Musk called it a criminal organization that should die, and Trump said it's run by radical lunatics. And of course, as you were saying, these Doge people are coming in and interviewing these employees.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Now, from the perspective of these employees, everything's been happening so fast and they, like, don't know what's going on. And then you've got these people that they don't know coming in and just interrogating them. Yeah. And hoping to understand, there's one employee who said this is a $40 billion agency they want to understand in a 30-minute meeting. Well, and that's, we didn't explain this. So Doge, basically, they're entitled to create at least a team of at least four employees with, you know, by agency leaders with like consultation from, from Doge. Okay? So they're supposed to create this little team and just at every agency and just go out and just cut through all the waste and fraud that Elon Musk says they're finding everywhere.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And I think it's, I mean, Elon calling these things fraud, just to be clear, I'm sure that there are cases of fraud out there because with the trillions of dollars getting disseminated through the United States Treasury, there's bound to be fraud. We've seen many cases of fraud happening, even right here in California, during COVID with the unemployment benefits. tens of billions of dollars was just stolen and nobody can account for it so it happens but he's so quick to call things fraud that are just things that he disagrees with on a on a um no other things he disagrees with things that um negatively impact him
Starting point is 00:29:07 um he's going after things that directly impact his funding to uh starlink yeah um we're going to get into it with the CFPB but these things impact him and his buddy he's boosting. I forget who it was. It was some, you know, tech guy complaining about how, you know, his business was basically being harassed by some government agency. Just turned out he was basically defrauding people and they were enforcing the law. Yeah, I, I, I, it sounds to me like a lot of these government employees are so fucking fed up and they just have no idea what to even do or where to begin. And they emphasize that it's frustrating. It's exceedingly frustrating dealing with these
Starting point is 00:29:53 people because they don't, like he said, they've got to explain, you can't explain the complexities of a massive government agency within just a few minutes. You cannot, you cannot try to justify certain expenditures. This one person called out how federal funding can be long lasting and complex. There can be payments still getting doled out today from rules or regulations or laws or whatever grants from a decade plus ago. And try explaining that to Mr. fucking Big Ball's Broccoli Head who's like, well, so what's this fucking money going to? It's like, dude, there's so many, I just, man, folks. I mean, you've seen it with just in the lead up to all this. When they first announced the Doge thing, Elon Musk started tweeting all kinds of,
Starting point is 00:30:45 bullshit. He was combing through things and screenshoting little things that maybe sounded ridiculous to him and being like, we're paying for this? And then he would get a bunch of fucking clapping seals. And people would take the time to explain to him and be like, you know, that's actually an important thing the government is funding.
Starting point is 00:31:04 But they don't fucking care. One of the big ones that really frustrated the crap out of me was Politico pro. So Politico is the is the media company and like Bloomberg or the New York Times or any one of these organizations
Starting point is 00:31:21 they've got subscription services Bloomberg is probably a better example because Bloomberg the newswire service costs like a shit ton of money and Politico has theirs as well it's called Politico Pro and apparently
Starting point is 00:31:37 the United States government was paying them about $8 million a year and when you look at that it's really easy to tweet out oh look at what they're fucking doing they're subsidizing these media these left wing media companies of course oh holy shit the corruption just runs the rot runs so deep right he's looking he's just taking a little line item in a thing and being like wow we gave them eight million dollars to turn out turn out fake news and no it's these political pro subscriptions they they're based they again they were interviewing um politico themselves actually
Starting point is 00:32:10 interviewed some government people who emphasized subscriptions for information like this are not the same thing as grants which is what Elon and all these dipshits are knowingly lying about. They're knowingly pushing these narratives out there. They're just doing, as I'm reading all this,
Starting point is 00:32:27 I keep thinking of Steve Bannon with the just, just overwhelm flood the, what did he call it? Flood the arena. It's, yeah, it's basically just put so much information out there that no one can even keep up. The journalists can't even keep up.
Starting point is 00:32:43 There's no way the populace is going to keep up with any of this stuff. Most people will just get tired and give up. Oh, yeah. And so they go on to say it's common for governments to have contracts with news organizations for their content. Because news organizations provide valuable information for government agencies. Surprise. Like, it's the same. Yeah, but this is fake news, Ben.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Oh, my God. They're basically just the woke liberals. It Trump even It prompted Trump to truth Saying the government He said The government is subsidizing the fake news media As a payoff for creating good stories about Democrats
Starting point is 00:33:23 And it just makes me want to fucking kill myself I just hope they don't come for more of us Wokaristas because I put in His own that's what he said I put in hard-earned hours at the At the commune as a Wokarista And I really don't want to lose my job Yeah
Starting point is 00:33:40 I'm the I think Catherine Long they were digging up old tweets of hers and she said I think it was her she said something
Starting point is 00:33:50 like under the under communism my job will be to give everybody a kiss on the forehead in the morning and they're like
Starting point is 00:33:57 look at her look at what she think it's like it's a fucking joke you dips shit it's a joke also she apparently worked for USAID
Starting point is 00:34:05 like eight years ago and they're like it's all connected and it's just Man, I'm fucking man. To be fair, they would, I imagine they would do the same stuff about a lot of the stuff we are reading. It's like, that's the whole, with all the, like, people getting up in arms about different Elon tweets or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:26 It's like. Oh, yeah. I'm sure, obviously some stuff that he says is a joke that he'd be like, well, look at them. They're taking the bait. But the difference is, we don't have 200 million followers on Twitter. We do not have the wealth and the influence. that these people have. Or hundreds of billions of dollars, or a fucking weird quasi-governmental agency full of the most freaky little broccoli-headed zoomers.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It's like what... Who got fired from cybersecurity firms for leaking secrets? On Discord. It's like, what's his name? Uncle Ben from Spider-Man. With great power comes great responsibility. And these guys are so fucking irresponsible. Not only irresponsible. I think he's, as Sam Altman said, I think he's wildly unhappy, wildly insecure. Oh, yeah. All of this stuff is getting, you know, getting to him.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And he is, we're just watching a baby lash out. Well, why don't we talk about the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and it closing? So they've got. And I'm glad he said Consumer Financial Protection Bureau because this one's, I think them going after you. Why are you glad I said it instead of CFPB? Yeah. because there's a, I think with USAID, there's not a lot of people who are, I don't think Doge is going to get a lot of pushback from that, right? They're going to get a lot of pushback
Starting point is 00:35:50 from these thousands of employees, and they should. I don't think any of these employees should be treated like this. Oftentimes it's illegal. I don't know if you've seen the clip of, it's not even worth finding, but the, is it Lindsay Graham or Mitch McCann? I think it's Lindsey Graham. They basically are, they're saying to him, you know, they're supposed to be these employees 30 days notice, all kinds of procedures that they're just, that they're just shirking. And then they go, did President Trump break the law? And Lindsey Graham goes, technically, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But I think the difference is that you are seeing at least minor pushback, I think, from, there were some kind of viral tweets of supporters who were kind of going, wait. I was on board with everything. I don't understand where you're going after this one. Yeah, there was one guy I remember in particular who tweeted Elon Musk and said, without the CFPB, I wouldn't have gotten the $600 and fraudulent charges back on my credit card last year. I really support everything else you do, but, sir, I don't understand. Why go after this? Hey, guys, we got to talk to you about hymns, all right? Two guys who know the importance of a full head of hair. Oh, yeah, baby.
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Starting point is 00:39:08 everything already existed. This is just a function of efficiency, which is the most annoying and hypocritical thing. A lot of the duties were basically spread across a bunch of different agencies, which was really inefficient. Federal Reserve, Federal Trade Commission, federal deposit, insurance corporation,
Starting point is 00:39:28 National Credit Union Administration, and the Department of Housing and Urban Development. From their website, which is now shut down, I had to go through, like, a back archive or whatever. The agency protects consumers from unfair, deceptive, or abusive practices, and takes action against companies that break the law. We arm people with the information, steps, and tools they need to make smart financial decisions. I'm sorry, but you know what I hear in that sentence?
Starting point is 00:39:55 I hear the sound of stifling innovation. I hear the sound of not giving consumers choices. I got into it with a guy on Twitter who had said, who had written an article about how the CFPB is actually bad, and his whole argument pretty much can be distilled down to, and a lot of these people's argument can be distilled down to, it's bad for business. To which I, to which I remember, I told him, Bank of America, Citibank, Discover, American Express, J.P. Morgan, all of these companies, all these, financial company's stocks are at all-time highs. They are printing money. None of this has obviously hurt them in any way. There is no shortage of lending. Americans have more credit card debt than ever. I don't understand how people can still get behind it being some kind of thing that's hurting consumers. Because in a roundabout way, that's what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:40:57 It's hurting consumers by not giving us access to more innovative financial products. It's hurting consumers by by not not giving us more um choices we've got plenty of choices at this point right and you like the last time we talked about this was probably when we were talking about mark Zuckerberg on joe rogan and he was he was doing that thing like the the CP um the CFPB like he didn't know what the fuck it was even though he knows what the fuck it is and mark andresen was on there complaining um and that's the thing i feel like Like, if he talked about what it was at all, people would be like, wait, why the fuck do we want to get rid of that? I mean, since it was created, the agency has returned, has provided more than $21 billion in consumer relief in the form of monetary compensation, principal reductions, canceled debts, and more than 205 million consumers and consumer accounts.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Yeah. Okay. The best way to, Matt Stoller is a guy who like always is writing about monopoly and all that. I think he put it best. I'm just going to read it from his post when all this was going down. Let's start with some of the small stuff that will now change. Rules against excessive overdraft fees, gone. A rule cap and credit card late fees, gone. Overnight, oversight of debt collectors and payday lenders, no more. And on a site to compare credit card products, likely gone. In 2023, the CFPB said that big banks can't charge junk fees for basic customer service, like being able to check the
Starting point is 00:42:27 amount of money in your account. The reason isn't just that it's nice, but that big banks themselves were unable to offer basic information, like who owned mortgages prior to 2008. That's gone too. Another rule put forward recently is that mortgage servicers can't garner excessive fees when they foreclose, which is an incentive to foreclose rather than working out loans, no longer. All of the, I mean, the best part is, did you see the viral tweet where he was replying to Ryan Grimm talking about how fucked up all this is? And the guy just goes, so well then what happened before 2010 everyone was just getting scammed and everyone was like my brother in Christ yeah what happened in 2009 what collapsed the economy even after I mean when Wall Street when
Starting point is 00:43:16 Wells Fargo was opening like fucking the the whole checking account uh the opening of accounts in people's names without them knowing that kind of shit it's just mind blowing how many people are so quick. Just in the, just for the sake of scoring political points against, uh, the other side of the aisle. There are so quick to suck the dick of these big banks and corporations. I, it's just mind-boggling. I, I don't fucking, I just. Yeah, I can't quite understand why. Like, why would be, oh, because you don't like Elizabeth Warren? Because you think that, sure, maybe this, maybe the consumer, uh, protection financial, or consumer CFPB, maybe there's, instances of them overstepping their bounds.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I don't give a fuck. I would rather them overstep their bounds and hurt poor JP Morgan than fucking, then me or anyone else has to get another fucking overdraft fee. What, what, I don't understand why people would be that concerned. In what way does it ever trickle down to you, sir? I just... You're trying to break me, man. Put smoke into my frigging head.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Man, I don't know what to take no more, man. Okay, okay. Very frustrated, folks. I'm very angry. I mean, it's extremely frustrating. Also, the lever pointed out that, again, Elon Musk has a bit of a stake in this. Late last month, Elon Musk Company X announced a deal with Visa to create a digital wall and peer-to-peer payment system through the social media platform. Wait, before you go on, I have a question. A peer-to-peer digital thing on X, you say? Now, who oversees peer-to-peer such peer-to-peer systems, Emile? That's going to be the CFPB.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Oh, oh, well, good, because they're stifling such innovation. After all, Elon Musk is one of our greatest living inventors and entrepreneurs. We should be grateful for him. We should all be signing up for X and using it for peer-to-peer payments. And Elizabeth Warren, aka Pocahontas, you know she lied about having Native American heritage. You know, she lied about it to get into college. You know, she just hates, she just hates American innovation. She just hates entrepreneurs like Elon Musk who were just trying to bring us to Mars.
Starting point is 00:45:35 He's just trying to bring us to Mars. He's just trying to fucking bring us to Mars on the rocket ship. He just wants to make it so that we can all use X, the everything app. I don't understand why she doesn't just fucking die. I don't understand why all these liberals don't just fucking die and get out of the way. Let Elon Musk just take it over. smart. He's so smart. He's so fucking funny. He's so smart. He's so smart. Go on. That's kind of it. So he basically, I mean, you got it. He doesn't want to be fucking regulated.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Days later, Musk is signaling that he and his Doge team are working to kill the CFPB, which police is peer to peer payment apps and had been planning tougher oversight of such systems to make sure they don't steal your money. Yeah, yeah. The Trump administration is now trying to completely shut down the agency. That's, I just don't understand. where the I mean we've talked about this before I just I cannot wrap my head around people thinking that
Starting point is 00:46:31 these guys are with them the whole like Trump and Elon team is here to fucking save them from some kind of it's because you're a gay liberal it's because you're gay Elizabeth Warren is gay this stuff is gay
Starting point is 00:46:46 it must be if they I mean dude okay so I read that fucking that Intelligencer article. Did you... It already sounds gay to me. Yes. You definitely at least saw the pictures on Twitter that people were making the cover.
Starting point is 00:47:02 It's all the people at the inauguration balls and the post parties and whatever. But they basically were like, this is the new young MAGA, whatever. And there were just multiple instances of people they interviewed that were... And I'll have to like put... the, we'll like do it after the fact because I don't want people to think I'm making this up multiple instances of her interviewing people and them going like
Starting point is 00:47:30 look I just couldn't take it anymore I want to say retard and faggot and I was like we threw away like we're flushing everything down the toilet so people could just be naughty you could be naughty you could do it under any
Starting point is 00:47:47 precedent my man you could say it people and look just because Trump's in office like people are still going to think you're an asshole if you fucking act like an asshole that's just not going to change because Trump's in office we're still going to think you're an asshole yes you guys like won the fucking you won you defeated the culture war but like we'll still everyone still thinks you're an asshole it's not going to change hey guys we want to take one more quick break to thank our favorite old sponsor of this show
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Starting point is 00:49:54 Like, I don't think, some people, I think maybe it's going to be like the first one. We're just going to weather the storm. These things, if they get rolled back, I don't think they're just going to, like, no one was fighting for these in the first place, all right? It was already on tenuous ground. It was already on shaky ground. And no one is going to fight to rebuild these things. No.
Starting point is 00:50:17 There's, I mean, this is, Rakeem Jeffries, Democratic House Minority Leader, you know, this is our, this is the opposition party who is supposed to be fighting for all these great American institutions. And let's see what he has to say. Does he do a land acknowledgement before he goes to it? Yes. And he says my pronouns are Z-Zim. Yeah, Z-Zim. I'm trying to figure out what leverage we actually have. What leverage do we have? They control the House, the Senate, and the presidency. It's their government. What leverage do we have? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah, we're trying to figure it out, too, man. We're trying to figure it out too. Yeah, let us know if you figure it out, like, King Jeffreys. Let us know if there's anything you can do. I love that the guy in charge now of the, of the, what is it, the CFPB is now this VOT guy? Yes, it's the same guy who's, he's like temporary acting head.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Yeah, his name is Russell Vought, which is funny because, you know, the show of the boys. Anyway, let's go. Who's like a Christian nationalist and full like Project 2025 freak. Absolutely. So let's move back to the other big controversy, which is all about access to the treasury. And it's all about read only and read right. What does that mean? Well, we'll tell you, folks. So huge shout out to Nathan Tank. Is it Tankus? It's got to be Tankus. But again. Notes on thecrisies.com.
Starting point is 00:51:51 He's been covering this nonstop, and he's been really freaking out. And the fact that he's freaking out so much kind of freaks me out a little bit, even though I'm so normally cool, headed, level-headed. He's so smart. He's so fucking funny. He's so smart!
Starting point is 00:52:06 But, so our new treasury... Treasuary... Which I do... I don't want to take us off track here. There's been this, like, weird... Uh... this, you know, contingency of people who are like, don't freak out, don't, did you see the Ezra Klein thing? People were posting about, you know, don't believe him and all that.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And even, you know, it kind of bummed me out when John Stewart was like, you know, if we just like call things fascism, like, uh, it's like everyone could see the fucking writing on the wall. Like, I don't know why you're pretending like, well, you know, it's not here yet. we'll know it when we see it it's like a lot of us can fucking see it if I had to sum it up I'd say the problem is that Trump is now just
Starting point is 00:52:53 wholesale trusting these people he perceives to be way way way way smarter than he is because that's this whole thing is like I entrust people I'm good at reading people and smart people I will put into positions where they can delegate on their own
Starting point is 00:53:09 and make things happen and he is putting such blind trust into Elon Musk, a well-documented scam artist, exaggerate, bullshitter, xenophob, fucking racist. Do and say whatever he needs to do or say to further his own, whatever the fuck his agenda even is, getting us to Mars.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Thank God. Thank fucking Christ. Yeah. I think we'll really see what happens with some of these legal battles. I think if these, if the Trump administration has come ignoring, say, a Supreme Court ruling or something like that. Because that's the thing. They keep talking about, oh, you know, checks and balances.
Starting point is 00:53:51 We have these institutions, blah, blah, blah. It all kind of, there needs to be some enforcement mechanism. If no one's enforcing these things. The Supreme Court doesn't mean, nothing means anything without an enforcement mechanism. Well, so the Treasury Secretary, his name is Scott Besant. He is our new guy. He's our new money guy. His signature is going to be all over your fucking money.
Starting point is 00:54:17 He said last week that he personally vetted the employees that Elon Musk is using in Doge and to not worry. And he said that they have only read-only access, meaning that these young men, these young Doge guys, are only able to go in and look at all the coding and stuff that's behind the payment system that handles trillions. of dollars worth of government payments every year. It's like they're at a really strict strip club. Yeah, they're only able to sit there. You can look at them. Just sit on your fucking hands. That's very good.
Starting point is 00:54:50 All right? You broccoli headed a little freak. You can look, but you can't touch is what the Treasury Secretary is saying. Everybody relax. They're only looking at the code. They're not altering it. But in a letter to Scott Besant on February 7th, this Oregon senator, Ron Wyden, cited a wired report that said, no, in fact, this Marco Ellis,
Starting point is 00:55:10 a.k.a. the racist kid, the 25-year-old Indian hater. Who wants to normalize Indian hate? Yeah, was given read-write access, meaning he's got the ability to not only look, but touch. He can touch the boobies.
Starting point is 00:55:25 He can touch the butt. He can touch whatever he wants. And he can make changes to the code. Let's double back real fast to those tweets of his because everybody at first thought that he resigned because of the tweets.
Starting point is 00:55:39 No, no, no, no, no. He resigned because, as it turns out, he had the right access to this code. And it was discovered that he was actually in there fucking about. That is why he resigned, not because of his tweets. And that is why Elon Musk is probably really glad that these little... He's got cover. So whenever he needs to get rid of anybody, oh, yeah, you know, to tweets, never mind this whole thing where he's actually got access to this fucking code.
Starting point is 00:56:07 and there are some people who are informants to Nathan Tancas saying that he did make extensive changes to the code. So now we've got this situation where the Treasury was actively lying to us, saying, oh, no, yeah, don't worry about it. We, you know, they don't even fucking know what's going on. And, yeah, Marco resigned because of cybersecurity breach concerns, according to sources within the Bureau of Fiscal Service, the BFS, and his tweets were merely convenient cover. They are still assessing what he did and figuring out what the fuck to do from here. Uh, so yeah, the little broccoli headed creep went in and just fucked around on some stuff. We actually don't know if that one's broccoli headed, but he probably is. He is the broccoli head. And just to a further, uh, point, apparently all of this government stuff is cobbled together
Starting point is 00:57:00 on like old hardware and even older software in coding languages. There's this one coding language called C-O-B-O-L, co-ball. And Nathan Tankus' fear is that guys like Elon Musk who are so just like tech will solve everything, AI will solve everything, he is afraid that they're going to go in there and go, oh, I don't even know. Nobody really knows how to use this. It's a dead language, essentially. It might as well be Latin in the computer programming world.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And his fears that they're going to go in and go, hey, AI, you know, translate this fucking COBOL thing. It's like it just doesn't work that way because there's all sorts of self-referential stuff where it's got to go and it's just all you need to know is it's very convoluted stuff that you can't just instruct an AI to go in and tinker about with. And there are things that break. There are chain reactions that can break. And before you know it, we're just in a fucking shitstorm because these... Which they're prepared for. They're obviously very comfortable with the move, fast, break things thing.
Starting point is 00:58:04 And look, that is a... It's not a huge deal when you're doing it at Twitter. Obviously, it was a huge deal for some employees and stuff that got fired. That's obviously not great. But sure, the platform works a little less shitty for people. But you're talking about people's lives here with this kind of stuff. Okay? When some of these like freezes went into effect, you're talking about people who couldn't get health care through Medicaid systems, Medicare systems.
Starting point is 00:58:30 They're really playing with people's lives when they break things here. Okay, if Social Security payments don't go out, then you're talking about people's, Who knows? Missing payments on things. And then you know you're never getting that scrub for your fucking credit report now that CFPB is down. Oh, baby. It's just like. Well, so.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And it's not just us. So on just this Monday, five former Treasury's secretaries posted a one big op-ed together. It includes Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers, Timothy Geithner, Jacob Liu, and Janet Yellen. Again, some of those people are famous fucking. freaks. Larry Summers can fuck off forever, obviously. But so there's this very pertinent quote here that I really like. They said
Starting point is 00:59:15 because they're sounding the alarm. The title of this is five former secretary treasury secretaries. Our democracy is under siege. I like this particular quote. These political actors have not been subject to the same rigorous ethics rules as civil servants. And one
Starting point is 00:59:31 has explicitly retained his role in a private company, Elon Musk, creating at best the appearance of financial conflicts of interest. They lack training and experience to handle private personal data like Social Security numbers and bank account information. Their power subjects America's payment system and the highly sensitive data within it to the risk of exposure, potentially to our adversaries, and our critical infrastructure is at risk of failure if the code that underwrites it is not handled with due care. That is why a federal judge this past weekend blocked,
Starting point is 01:00:02 at least temporarily, these individuals from the Treasury's payment system, noting the risk of irreparable harm. That is what happened. There was this judge in the Southern District of New York who basically said, hey, you, this has to stop. Anyone who has access the system, delete it, bitch, which is like, how are you going to enforce that? How are you going to trust that they're deleting whatever they, and the Trump administration pushed back and said, oh, there is no basis for drawing a difference between civil servants and political appointees. And preventing the latter from performing its functions is an extraordinary and unprecedented judicial interference with a cabinet secretary's ability to oversee the department he was constitutionally appointed
Starting point is 01:00:46 to lead it's just i do think that one's a little weird though because i think if they're talking about scott besent is i don't think scott yeah what if they're talking about besent uh that one it's weird in the in the um in the in the in the case but i don't don't necessarily think they're talking about him because I do think he does have the authority. They're talking about the fact that these Doge employees who are in this system are not civil servants. But Trump was talking about percent. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yes. And I don't think he's necessarily wrong. There's one more really important quote from this that I admittedly didn't know. They say, a key component of the rule of law is the executive branch's commitment to respects Congress's power of the purse. The legislative branch has, fuck. The legislative branch has the sole authority to pass laws that determine where and how federal dollars should be spent. The role of the Treasury Department and of the executive branch, more broadly, is not to make determinations about which promises of federal funding made by Congress it will keep and which it will not.
Starting point is 01:01:53 As Justice Brett Kavanaugh of the Supreme Court previously wrote, even the president... Just got so horny thinking about Breast Kavanaugh? Breast Kavanaugh. Just a big titty sitting there. even the president does not have unilateral authority to refuse to spend the funds chief justice john roberts agrees he wrote that no area seems more clearly the province of congress than the power of the purse in other words it ain't the president or the uh or any of his little buddies is it's not within their purview eight grade civic separation of power shit i mean
Starting point is 01:02:25 it's like uh but i think that's what a lot of this is all about because not all these things are going away i think they want them to be absorbed into executive branch functions, and I think they want to be staffed up with Magillackeys, you know, Elon Musk Faithfuls who will act out these wildest dreams. It's also, you know, it's hard to, I never wanted to get wrapped up in all these alt-right sickos. It always seemed like such outliers, but it's impossible. Do you know that guy, Curtis Yarvin? Yeah. Oh, I've got, I've got a story for you. I can't talk about it on the show, but I...
Starting point is 01:03:04 Are you serious? Someone I know kind of is friends with him. I don't remember exactly what their relationship is. Honestly, it's worth doing an entire episode on Curtis Yarvin. He's an absolute fucking freak. I never thought it was because, like, I always was like, these people are outlandish freaks who, like, no one would ever listen to.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I don't think that is true anymore. I think that... Um, if you don't know, Curtis Jarvin is this, like, kind of, he's pro, uh, he does not look like, he looks more like that, the, the one with his Wikipedia pages of fucking dork. Um, and he's this kind of, uh, Bay Area, Silicon Valley writer who talks about, um, the need for monarchy and monarchies, monarchies were basically, when, when, when countries were ran like businesses, where you basically had a CEO, um, he said, he's said, absolutely, abhorrent things. If we do an episode about him, we'll talk about all that. But one of his big
Starting point is 01:04:07 things was the rage protocol or whatever, retire all government employees. And, you know, you're kind of seeing some of this stuff put into action. He's, you know, a lot of these tech guys are big fans of him. Peter Thiel, you know, all these guys talk about their, you know, the influence of Curtis Jarvin. Good stuff. But it's hard to not think that these guys have at least, like, in some way, won this battle for the American system. And speaking of battles for the American system, just real fast, Nathan Tankus points out
Starting point is 01:04:49 that the reason why they're really focusing on the Bureau of Fiscal Services is because otherwise Donald Trump would have to go to war with these agencies that he opposes on an individual basis. So this way, by attacking this kind of choke point, the money, he can just cut off the money supply and choke out these agencies to death. Yeah, I mean, he'd have to go through Congress and, you know, change all the appropriations for funding. Yeah. But he wants to be able to completely control all these things. So what have we learned, folks? I just, as I was reading about Elon Musk last night and all this shit and just getting angrier and angrier, I just can't help but wonder slash hope
Starting point is 01:05:40 that someone tries to do a Super Mario Brothers's brother. Well, he's one of them, one half of Super Mario Bros. Yeah, the, the, um... And we don't know, there might be others out there, so maybe... I wish someone would mangyna him, you know? And I'm just increasingly, I feel like it's going to happen. I mean, it's bound to happen. I think it'd be very difficult to get close to him at this point.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah, man. Especially when he's got his kid on his shoulders all the time. Oh, good God, man. Just lure that kid away with some candy. He'll hop right off his dad's neck and then, you know, you can just get creative. I don't know. Yeah, my fear is that, you know, he's, I think he's going to be more and more isolated and just insecure. and he's a...
Starting point is 01:06:28 Maybe we've got to get more creative and go after Grimes like shame Grimes so much that she's like the only path I have to redemption is to poetically in a Shakespearean way go after the father of my children
Starting point is 01:06:43 and you know what I mean? She seems like just the kind of psycho to... We should all start suggesting that Grimes take one for the team. Can you imagine? That'd be so interesting. entertaining. More than anything, just having a hard time figuring out what the end goal is
Starting point is 01:07:01 for all these things. Did you see the Trump, the Trump bribery thing, the executive order? No. Basically just getting rid of the... Oh, yeah, you can bribe for it. Yeah, why not? Trump halt's prosecution of firms accused of bribery abroad. Well, it's good for business. It's going to mean a lot more business for America, Trump said, when signing the executive order.
Starting point is 01:07:31 The law has been in place for around 50 years and prohibits U.S. firms from trying to retain or win new business with other countries by bribing government figures. A White House statement said, oh, you can just fucking predict it. It's over-expansive and unpredictable enforcement of the law risked the economic advancement of the U.S. we really just got to unleash the bull let them go out and do whatever you want poison their water threaten to poison their water you can do whatever you want who cares but yeah all i'm just like where where do they want to end up where's like where are we trying to go i mean this is not wait this is great they're saying here scroll up just a little bit uh the president said in a statement that enforcing the law would only bar routine business practices in other in other nations and then
Starting point is 01:08:23 enforcement action takes resources away from preserving American freedoms. What is that? I think it's like, what are they saying that, oh, like a box of cigars could be considered a bribe under this thing. We've got to bring it back. So you guys know how American business has been suffering for the last 60 years. Yeah, what the fuck? It's time to get over it. That's what I'm so confused about. Like, what is, what is holding us back? We're at all time highs. Dude, you just don't get it, though. This kind of shit. Yeah. I mean, we've got dick dick hole coin and oh let's pull up that um let's pull out let's let's let's let's pivot to uh how well everything's going the wales the wales link well but but before we
Starting point is 01:09:04 even before we move on i just i i am so confused about just like you know there was a there was a funny headline in in the american prospect about like even even hitler prioritized science and stuff like that after the uh the gutting of the n i h nih I'm sorry. All of this, it just seems to be smashing things for the sake of smashing things. Department of Education,
Starting point is 01:09:32 I don't know. It seems like... It's to piss off liberals, man. I know, but... You're big pussy. Again, it goes back to that article. Like, because of a couple of words that you thought you might get in trouble for saying,
Starting point is 01:09:44 we're going to like turn everyone into a smooth-brained... Yeah, they're over-correcting. They're doing this thing. That's what I will say. that the whole woke movement really did fuck things up in so many ways like this, where now you've got these guys who are so pissed off and so
Starting point is 01:10:00 ready for revenge and everybody's to blame, where they're now like, look at this, look at this, they're giving fucking, they're a bunch of tofu eating hippies who are given aid to other countries. I didn't fucking say, I didn't fucking sign up for that. What about you?
Starting point is 01:10:17 So what about these guys with AIDS and HIV and like, why are we giving this shit? Oh, it's all fucking woke stuff. It's like, fuck, you guys are overcorrecting in such a way that it's just, it's disgusting and is so detrimental. Yes, it was obviously a horrible decision for the Democratic Party rather than offering any real economic change to just offer weird, um, latitudes. Well, and I, you know, identity politics, weaponizing identity, um, and, you know, saying that, well, look, we're not going to change anything about how the economy functions. You're still going to be poor and not
Starting point is 01:10:54 have any opportunities. But there's a black guy on the board of directors at... Hell yeah. Morgan Stanley. Uh, silence. A black guy's talking. Right. We're not going to change anything, but we'll do a land acknowledgement at the Black Rock. Yeah, it's all useless stuff. Okay, well, that didn't help any of us. Yeah. The, uh, well, let's, we're out of time, folks, but I just thought, um, I mean, just to, this speaks to how, how well the American economy is doing. This is from a whale watch alert. This is a Twitter account that follows crypto stuff. And a retardio whale, that is a whale that has a lot of the retardio coin.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Just bought a little over $4,000 worth of dog shit two coin. That's not dog shit one. That's dog shit two. At an $3.83 million market cap. That's right. Dog shit two. has a market cap of $3.83 million. And who knows?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Maybe this retardio whale is on to something. You've got to watch the whales. Yeah, you got to watch the whales, see what they're doing. And thank God we're really unleashing the American economy here. Maybe we... Because it's got more to go. It's definitely got more to go. Maybe we go out with one more...
Starting point is 01:12:13 Just for a little bit of hope, I sent a thing in the chat. But here's another brave warrior from our opposition party. I'm sure this guy's going to make sure we're all good. The one on the Republican side in the House and Senate, who control both the House and Senate, is going to speak up. Yeah, this is John Larson, the Democrat from Connecticut. just um 76 year old John Larson
Starting point is 01:12:50 he's he's ready to fight for us the screen isn't frozen he's he maybe he's malfunctioned a little bit here he's unsure he's got to protect Americans
Starting point is 01:13:03 look that this and their social security Jesus Christ you could turn it off yeah I don't want to what the fuck did we
Starting point is 01:13:14 do to ourselves. All right, folks. Well, if anybody wants to get together and contemplate ways that we can do the funniest thing in the world to certain people, all ears, I am willing to sacrifice myself for the greater good. I mean, that is the honest, like, we need
Starting point is 01:13:30 someone who has nothing to lose. No, no, no, no. I genuinely, like, people need something to believe in. The Democratic Party, this is a perfect representation of what they are. Not only that, it's not even worth playing. But I'm sure, did you see that all those Democrats trying to get into the Department of Education?
Starting point is 01:13:50 Oh, yeah. And they're like, what's going on? The door won't open. Maxine Waters is like, I command you to open this door now. There's one bald-headed guy standing in front of the door and maybe dozens of Democrats. And it's like, just fucking go around him. Yeah. Just go around him.
Starting point is 01:14:08 And they're going, show me your ID, sir. Who are you? They're the only ones. Like, they believe, if there's anything in front of them, if they're like, we can't do anything, won't someone help us? And then the Republicans get it in there just like, we can do anything we want. Do something. Well, we're going to talk about some positive stuff in the bonus. It'll be a nice bonus.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So ben and amel show.com. I got really fucked on my flights, and I'll tell you all about that. Plus, we're going to talk about the Super Bowl. We're going to talk about Montoya, por favor. and what else? What else do we have there? Anyway, huge shout out to Catherine and Nathan for their work and reporting. Wow, I've just got the end riff on my shoulder. Anyway, folks, thanks so much. Thanks so much. Bye.

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