The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 98: Memes and Politics ft. Dan Toomey of Good Work

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

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I think 100 guys could take the girl. Wait, what is this? I think the 100 guys would easily take the girl. Absolutely not. Wait, what? What? We should spend like, you know, a small country's worth of energy simulated. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then we're gonna know. I'm shocked that this is an argument. A prime scientist weighed in and he was like, it'd be pretty easy for the country guys. Yeah, that's... A primate scientist weighed in. Primate scientists here. This actually upsets the gorilla when he tried to fight 100.

when he tries to fight a hundred guys can easily take a single a single gorilla yeah an unmarried gorilla 100 married men versus one unmarried gorilla that's easy that's not a competition no i agree white men discovering podcast this is great and you can just buy these anyway and this kind of stuff. And I like it when it's me. I'm working down to town with Ben and Me. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. Hey, welcome to the Ben and Emile show. I've been trading two weeks ago. I saw the VIX was up, and now I'm just kind of frustrated because it's up, but I didn't act on my gut.

Yeah. So, Henry, have you been watching a lot of clay tennis recently? Yeah. Dan, shut the fucking. Oh, yeah. Have you been watching a lot of clay tennis? Yeah, I have been watching a lot of... Yeah, we just got the tennis channel recently.

Would you guys mind taking a lap for this conversation? I'm actually going to pee real quick. Yeah. That's classic Ben stuff going potty. Do you guys mind if we plug our own live show real quick? Yeah, that's fine. Wait, are you still us? Oh, no.

No, I'm me now. Oh, oh, yes. I just want to be polite. Please plug your live show. Guys, we clearly have guests here, but before we get to that. Yeah, be polite to the guests. We added a second Austin show because the first one sold out, and those tickets are also going quickly. So if you'd like a ticket to that, we'll be in Austin, May 9th, as well as the 8th.

Get tickets to that. And we're also coming to Denver, June 1st. Wow. And tickets are on sale for that. Both of those will be in the description. with links for tickets in case you didn't recognize the voices of these two young men we've got henry stockwell which is a very funny uh last name considering stock market and how poorly he trades that's why i got into this line of business yeah more like stock unwell and and dan to me from

both from uh morning brew's good work fame that's correct welcome boys thank you for having us welcome thanks for joining it's been a long time coming honestly yeah it's kind of i'm every few months i text ben and i go like hey how are you doing But the subtext is really like, can you haven't seen us on the pod. I've seen Kyla three times maybe. We haven't. She's always in L.A. She's always in L.A.

Yeah. Yeah, we do all of our interviews remote. I will say you guys are very requested. We get a lot of get good work. Really? We get good work on. I think they would jive. It's also, I always see it and I go, I don't know how to explain to them.

We're friends with those guys. They're like, I feel like there would be such a good vibe. They would like each other maybe. We did be... Five confirmed. That live show that we all did together was at a very weird time for the channel where I actually don't think a lot of people

fully knew what it was. Really? It wasn't, we didn't have like a massive fall. It was at the point where I think people now look at the channel and watch it and then see this old poster we had and then are like, wait, Ben and Amil did a show with them?

Like it's lost history. That was the first good work live ever, right? First and remains the only. Yeah, okay, great. Yeah, it was a year ago, a year and a half. It was because of how bad you guys did. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. We're banned from live venues now, yeah, yeah.

No, Ben and Emil Crush. Ben and Mel crushed. It was very fun. We've just been focusing on making YouTube videos. Yeah, YouTube videos are very hard. We are constantly suffering at the, you guys are. I watched the one where you guys were on acid in the mall. That was awesome.

I love that video. Yeah, that's a very fun one. We wished we didn't have to take drugs to get a million. views on YouTube that's what we're trying to figure out right now it's creating kind of a dangerous feedback yeah yeah yeah there's no way out we've got something coming out soon that i'm like if this doesn't work we're just doing drugs again oh the portland video no no i don't it'll be fine we'll figure out something that people like yeah yeah yeah it's it's hard playing the youtube game well we had some questions for you guys um man we've never really done any kind of i want to

keep it loose. We were having a nice thing and then you were like, let's stop that. And then you said we have some questions for you guys and then you looked at them and went, man, I don't even want to do this. Well, that does it for the vamping section on to rapid fire questions.

I didn't know it was so structured with you. Yeah, no, it can. Sometimes it is. It gets really a time. Are you stressed? You're a regular Jake Tapper over there across the table. I was pretty stressed today. I don't know what it is about being here. We're in New York, by the way yeah what about what about being in new york is stressful i mean it's i love it here

but i just have felt this usually when i come here and it's been a while i get i get a little bit of an upset just upset stomach feeling not like going to the bathroom upset stomach but just kind of like i don't know if it's taking the train and stuff i'm a lot more sensitive to to motion like even just taking the train over here are you having an anxiety attack yeah are you no No, are you sure? We travel a lot together. It's also because I slept in. This is also kind of you, wherever you go, you're just kind of like, anything you're experiencing,

you're like, my stomach's upset. I don't know what's happening. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I woke up at 9 this morning, which is pathetic. It's just too late. But that's 6 a.m. L.A. time, which is what I usually do. Right. And, yeah, then I got a fucking Turkish potato pastry thing, and that was really,

It was a lot. It was like a foot long thing. Okay. And, uh, yeah. Be kind to yourself. Yeah, you're just in tune with your body, man. It's okay. Yeah, you think that you woke up and just did heroin.

You're fine. You're a sensitive guy. Yeah, I am very sensitive. And it's, it's tough sometimes. And then, yeah, I felt like, I already needed a nap. And we're going to have to go do this podcast. And then you texted me a very funny joke. Dan said, can I, can I bring coffee?

I said, sure. He said, can I bring 16 or 12? Was it 12? What's going on? Well, because you made fun. me for asking if I could bring a coffee but I didn't know we don't again we don't do podcasts a lot so I didn't know if that was like oh you can't bring liquids in because if you spill it you're gonna I I don't know and then I texted everything's fun yeah and

then I texted Ben a friend we gotta start over well I texted Ben a friend yeah could I bring coffee and he was like bring coffee yeah pussy I didn't know what kind of made it was I was I was like yeah wait I like not not Dan sent a funny joke and it was just can I bring coffee Yeah, because I thought he was joking. Not everything is a bit, and it's okay to be in tune with yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ben just, I mean, Dan just went out and was genuine, and you mistook it for irony. Yeah, well, everybody's ironic these days.

You guys were just talking about the clowns and stuff and, you know, everybody's clowning. Let's go back to the rabbi fire questions. So, well, we tried vamping, folks. So, boys, how long have you? But I was surprised that you said you've been at Morning Brew for six years. Yeah, I started. I started copywriting all of the emails or not copyrighting all the ads in the emails. So I wrote like, you know, your Monday.coms.

I don't want to give any free promo actually script. We can cut Monday.com. You're Tuesday.com. Yeah, yeah, your, yeah, your Tuesday.coms. And yeah, and I did that for like two or three years. And then I became friends with Dan who was TikToking the news quite beautifully. Just freestyle them by yourself? You became friends at Morning Brew.

Yep. uh yeah and then eventually um the company slash dan was kind of like do you get do you want to have like an actual like an actual do you want to actually do something here um and that was helping dad make uh make youtube video right and you were like i'm actually kind of liking the copy editing the email ads from my phone and prospect park so yeah it was like pretty good thing going yeah henry we're going to miami tomorrow 6 a.m it was different schedule for sure yeah well But did you guys actually go to Miami? We did.

We made a video in Miami. Yeah. Or what? What was that the first one? No, no. We, I don't know what number that was, but we made it a year into the channel being a thing. Oh, was it about all the crypto moving down there and stuff? Yeah.

Yeah. It was about, because people at the time, which isn't really the case anymore, but they were, especially during and post-pandemic, everybody was saying that Miami is the new Wall Street. Right. And so this was, it was kind of funny to do it at the time that we did also because it was a year after all of those headlines. lines, so you were able to see if it had actually manifested at all down there, which was very fun to kind of poke around

and look at it. Had it manifested in there? Not, it was more of like in a housing crisis. Yeah, it was kind of like you stumbled on ancient society and you kind of like saw the crypto bull there alone and nobody else was like taking pictures with it and stuff. It felt like ancient ruins kind of. There was probably the best scene

of the episode was when we learn about the crypto bull cut to Dan, you know, doing this to the crypto bull, and then Dan is kind of cupping the crypto bulls, where the crypto bulls ball should be. Because the famous faux paw with the crypto bull is that it's ballless. It's smoothed down there. Wow. Yeah. That seems antithetical to the entire. To the whole thing. Yeah. But they overlooked it. Yeah. They overlooked that part. Yeah. That's a very crypto thing to occur to happen. Yes. And they didn't just weld some on? No. They still could. By the way, they still could. But it's still there.

Next time you're in Miami, go down there and get a look at the gooch. I've been to Miami like once and I didn't like it. You didn't like Miami? No, sorry to everybody in Florida. I just didn't like it. I got off the plane and was like, it is too huge. I got off the plane and my stomach kind of hurt. I was shaking.

What's the problem here? I woke up at eight like a fucking loser. I ate a weird potato thing. That's probably not what gave me the stomachache. It's this city. Well, the water does. I ate a lot of the ground and then I felt so bad at it. Did you say a lot?

Yeah. Why would I found a lotco on the ground? I was thinking of like the potato. Yeah. Potatoes. I thought Jews in Florida or something. I'm like, not just on the ground. This is a gotcha interview. We, Jews in Florida, right where we want you. Do you guys travel well together?

Do you guys travel well together? I think we travel pretty well together. I mean, we spend it. We go like, you know, we kind of go into, we go into autopilot mode in the. There's a lot of parallel play. There's a lot of parallel play. Which is good. I think.

I mean, we spend a lot of time. Can you explain parallel play? Yeah, it's like when two babies are, like, doing activities next to each other, right? Am I getting that right? No, no, no, it is. It's exactly what it is. Can you twist a little bit? Yeah, it's like, one is coloring, like, a boat and the other one is flopping around.

And that's a lot of, like, our travel style. It sounds sexual, but it's about babies. Yeah, probably the preference is, like, you know, Henry sits in a different seat, and I'm, like, not even close to him. On the plane? I'm first class, usually. Henry's like towards the Henry's in the bathroom

An important note on traveling is that the first time that we ever traveled together for the channel and for people who don't know Dan is actually like the full face of the channel and there's no reason why you would really know who I am other than I make the videos of Dan but Dan

first time we traveled together we showed up at the hotel and the guy's like okay first room Henry you're going to be on the seventh floor and I'm like okay cool I head to the elevator I hear behind me him go all right Dan third floor and Dan is just like what the fuck I go really he goes yeah and I go okay and so now and go and you book this hotel

and so now and but I don't know the road but now now Sudan has to be at a higher altitude than me we did we did actually hey gang we got to take a quick break to thank a sponsor today's show it's moo moo you've been watching the show for a while. You know that Mumu is our longest-running sponsor and for good reason. We love them. I use them all the time and it's because they really stand

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So click the link in the description or use the code Bays 60 to take advantage of these awesome promos and experience the power of M-M-M-U. We did actually. That was big of you. Yeah, that was big of you. Why did you just book one room? Well, because you're not paying for it. Yeah. We wouldn't care about...

We're not paying for it. We wouldn't care about floors, but we one time did bring producers on the road for something, and we just at random handed out the key cards. They were on the same floor. We figured whatever, probably the same room. And we, everyone got ready, and then we met down in the lobby for dinner,

and they were like, God, our rooms, like, the rooms are so cool. And you guys have, like, the big jutting out thing with the view, and we're like, what? Wait, what? And we were so like, Yeah, we were like, fuck, can we switch? Yeah, their room was significantly bigger than ours. How do you guys travel together?

Are you good? We don't will. It's a lot of crossing each other's boundaries. He brings his travel badee, which I don't like. Right, yeah. Here we go. He doesn't like when I pull out my little ball to give me lumbar support. I like it.

I like making fun of it. That I have to inflate on the plane where I like very crazy. But I'll tell you what, it helps with that back pain. Yeah, it looks. I was jealous. It was like, damn, that looks nice to wedge in. Why not just bring a tennis ball? You've got a million of them.

I like that you can't tell the difference between this size and this size. Oh, yeah. It's cool that. Oh, so it's a big, it's a big ball. It's basically like a small medicine ball that you don't inflate to like fully. Right. And so it's got a little give and you just. And then so you can deflate it and it just easily fits in the whole for the whole flight.

Yeah. Wow. I was having a lot of lower back pain and I've fixed it and it's great. He also wears a few, man. He wears his glasses. He wears his glass. when we travel because right now he's got contacts on because he's trying to deny his his true identity of a glasses guy and he's got he's got those lenses that make your eyes look

fucking huge he looks like an absolute fucking P.E. teacher like a I don't know like a lesbian P.E.T. We're basically just not nice to each other. Yeah sounds like you guys it's it's fun ribbing. It's like yeah one time the floors got mixed up and you were like and he wears these fucking glass and he also sucks and his back hurts yeah no we have fun we do have fun but it's a lot of uh we're not parallel playing it's a lot of it's a lot of parallel play and drinking yeah yeah yeah that that first trip because we were at uh university of virginia which is where that hotel was and then after uh went to the airport bar had had a few drinks before the flight and it was lovely yeah it was great when you guys

go on location to shoot how long are you there for Miami we were there for like five days Oh, wow. Which was our longest. Yeah. There was also like an event happening for Morning Brew that we were also kind of there for. Yeah, yeah. We were kind of. Yeah.

And then for Virginia, I don't know, we were there for a day. Yeah, we're there for like, we're there for two or three days. We haven't done a field episode in a while, but this summer we're trying to fire, we're trying to fire them back up. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be fun. Because they're fun. There are a lot of effort to like the, you know, on Henry's part, I've kind of offloaded a lot of the equipment stuff to you. And so it'll all be in Henry's.

room and he organizes everything and uh uh i'm i'm four stories right just kind of chilling yeah i don't touch the gear yeah i don't touch the gear i don't look at it here on floor 11 we're just chilling yeah yeah but yeah i'm surprised you guys didn't go to the uh the berkshire hathaway annual shareholders meeting were you there never done that no we want to go getting i know the last four years we've been like fuck got to remember for next year we got maybe four more Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know this last one, I was like, we should do it because who knows how... He said four years?

He said maybe four. Yeah, maybe. I think it could be more at best. It could be like he's got... It's like how many more like Martin Scorsese movies do we have? How many more Berkshire Hathaway shareholder events do we have? And how many, so we need to get to the next one. And now that Charlie's gone, that's huge.

That's a huge loss. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, as a fellow guy with large lenses, lenses that make your eyes larger, it's sad to lose one, a guy who's not afraid to just go out there with absolute Coke bottles on it. Yeah, they seem great. There are a bunch of videos that I see where it's like TikTokers go there, you know, like the hustle grinds that TikTokers will go there and interview

some like 92 year old guy who's like a billionaire because he bought, you know, however many shares of picture. I literally just saw that video. Oh yeah. On here, we don't need to pull it up. Yeah. It's like this old guy he's 95. Yeah. And he bought $1.2 million worth of Berkshire in

like 1980 when it was $2,000 a share. And now it's worth like 400 million dollars yeah that fucker yeah and he's like good for him he's doing like the 95 year old guy thing or he's like poking you the whole time oh yeah he's like i'm 95 you know and the guy's trying to tell you something yeah do you know the other guy in that video is no ryan sir oh it is ryan sir of of owning manhattan fame what is your hand's real estate he's also in a movie it's in like a famous movie it's like a netflix re uh like a real estate reality show. It's really good. If you, if you, like, kind of, like, trashy reality shows,

it's quite good. But I believe you. He's not an asshole. I mean, Ryan, I don't know. Ryan, Sir Hitt. Seems like a guy. You guys don't have to vouch for Sir Henn. He's a great guy who, like, could have us, us killed. Like, that's kind of his vibe. So, like, I'm going to say, I love, I love Sir Hant. Yeah, we love what he does. He's a great guy. I think he sucks. Come at me. Also, before we, I mean, we've already gotten too far, but we should have done this earlier, I, maybe for anyone who is not, I, maybe for anyone who's not familiar with, because I'm sure most people will be, but for anyone who's not familiar with good work and stuff you do, how would you guys describe, how would you describe what

you do? How do we describe the show? I can take a stab at it. Sure. That'd be cool, actually. You guys do very good, in-depth comedy expose videos of a single subject, and they're great. They're very funny, and you can't help but retain a lot of information because... I'd like to try to. Okay, yeah, Ben, go for it. Fetirical investigative... Hey, you shouldn't fuck up, Matt. Ceteerical investigative journalism. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whose did you like more? I think mine was more succinct. Well, I didn't know where you were going for it. Yeah, Ben got to practice, so it's a little unfair. Yeah.

Well, I also heard how bad you fuck that up. So... Yeah, that's a pretty apt description of what we do. Yeah, yeah. You nailed it. Saterical. But, yeah, I would definitely recommend anyone who's interested in business news stuff checking out the channel because you guys

you guys take your time you craft like a very fun narrative you talk to experts and there's also a lot of jokes written and it's a very fun way to learn about a subject. Thank you that means a lot because we kind of like I don't know I forget when our paths first crossed it was like four

years ago maybe yeah it was before good work was a thing I'm pretty sure and I was just doing the videos for morning brew and then I forget I probably I think I might end you or something yeah good work yes and i thought tian jim and said hey you you're pretty you a handsome guy uh well and we almost were going to work with morning brew right yeah way back in the day and then we um uh we turned

it down out of loyalty to the to the network that we were along before and yeah yeah and we were like i think i was asking you like how do you like it over there yeah there's a lot of that was how we got more connected. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I told Morningbrook, don't work with these guys.

Yeah. I got a bad... They barely know what our YouTube... Because all of a sudden, they were just like me at three in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they...

We did end up trying to go back with them, but by then everything had changed. Yeah. Everything had changed. Yeah. But so what... So I was looking through your guys... I was looking through your guys YouTube page.

You have like tons of very popular videos. But the one recently, popped off hugely was the Palantir one. Why do you guys think, why do you guys think people connected? Do you think it's just that people are always asking that question, what the hell is Palantir? There's something to that. I think the videos that are really popular are just sort of like a common sense question that people would like at a bar or dinner party. You'd be like, wait, what does, what do consultants actually do?

Or like, what does Palantir actually do? And I also think that. Yes, those are great. Those ones are like literally questions I've definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't want to cut you on. No, no, no, but it's also, I think Pounter specifically is one of those things where, like, you are, you probably know what it is, but you don't know, you don't know what they do.

If you know at all what it is, you're prone to have a very strong opinion about it. Like, you're either going to be like, fuck Pallantir or, like, go defense tech, revolutionize the military. And if you're the latter, it's a bit suss, but. Yeah, yeah. But it's one of those things, I think it's a really good topic of a video because that gets people in. And then sort of like, no matter which angle you're coming at it from, when you start to learn about Pallentere, they're actually. they're actually like they have real ideas like they're not just like spewing uh just sort of like tech marketing jargon regardless of what you think about it so they do really kind of challenge both

opinions if you're like super con or super pro i also wondered how much of the like day trader effect we would get by dame paleteer because we initially i mean it takes us a while to make our videos like three weeks usually and we often start the reporting process on a video like even before that production process. So with Palantir, the initial pitch was because its stock was rocketing in like January. And I had a lot of friends who were in business that were like, a Palantir video would blow up right now.

And there was a little bit of hesitation because we were like, okay, if we make it, you know, in three days and it's a garbage video, then maybe it might, you know, pop off, but it probably won't be that good. So I guess we'll see if this resonates with anybody in two months. And then when we, I think we are both caught off guard by how much that one did well because it stock wasn't a huge story at the time when we uploaded it but

you know sometimes like the sweet spot is when we make a video that like is about something that people have kind of danced around but nobody's made a definitive video asking the question of what it does like I think our consulting one was a good example of that too yeah so it just kind of like came at the right time

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Yeah, it's a classic question. Is that how you guys come up with videos, you guys just go to bars and you hear what questions people are asking? What? Yeah, follow people around. Which that's what we did. What is parallel play? Why can't we print more money? Right.

That was bang, actually. You hear a girl on a first date being like, but what even is investment banking? Yeah, it's Henry and I in Trent, but it's behind a bunch of first date. Our audience dream. Our audience dream is that there are a bunch of girls out there on first dates asking, hey, what does, what does Palantir actually do that? You know what I just watched this satirical YouTube investigation on it? One of the funniest interactions we had was usually it's got,

like it's mostly guys that watch the channel. And we were filming one time and we were across, you know, Henry was across the street and I was on one side of the street. And we're filming and I'm, you know, talking, I forget what the video was about. And I was like, stocks are rocketing up again. And then this group of girls stops and one of the girls steps out. And she was like, are you Dan Toomey? And I was like, finally, chicks dig this channel.

Like, it's been so long. And she was like, my boyfriend watches your shit. And she goes, your voice is so annoying. I have to have headphones while he does it. And I was like, I feel like you didn't need to tell me that, ma'am. I feel like you could have kept walking. That is, yeah. There's putting stuff out online.

you cannot help but internalize the comments of thousands of people. We have a boyfriend heavy audience. Yeah, boyfriend heavy audience. It's also, like, to be fair, it's really weird to, like, you know, if somebody comes up and talks to you while you're filming after you spent multiple years publishing yourself on the internet where you're yelling in public, it'd be kind of unfair for you to be like, why are you, you feel like you can talk to me right now? Are you catching me off guard? Yeah, you get some good street interaction. I forget which one it was, but maybe it was the most recent one, the tariffs one, where it was like

you're just sitting in the middle of street and some guy walks right up next to you and you guys just keep rolling and he's like, so yeah, that's, are you ready for a Ben and a meal exclusive? Yeah, yes. That was, that was planted. Oh. No, no, no. It was organically, but it was just, it was just

our friend who works in the office who walked past and then we were, and then I was like, oh, we were like, walk past again, walk past again. But there are most, the vast, they're almost all, they're almost all not planet right the funniest part is that the person in that video uh who like stands there and poses is guatemalan and all of the comments were like look at that crazy asian guy i mean the boyfriends aren't good at placing races no not good i'm really good at uh identifying races yeah so far we've got

the florida jews we've got guatemalan yeah white what's next on the agenda can i i do i have a question about. Meal's like, quick pivot away. I have a question. We don't do a podcast a lot. I don't know why we don't do this. This is great. The, uh, I think that was the most recent one, the tariffs one probably.

Yeah, yeah. Um, I was curious if the, if the Trump 2.0 era has, has impacted, because you guys are pretty apolitical, I would say. Maybe you guys kind of, uh, feel differently. But I feel like that's what you're going for. And I am one. I'm wondering if the new Trump era has changed the way you guys think about content at all. I think that the biggest thing for us in this administration, having worked in news before and seeing how different the Trump administration can make the flow of news, what we have tried really hard to do, when we first started publishing videos, I was coming off of Instagram and TikTok where I was like, we need to come out with a new YouTube video every single day because you upload more, you get more followers.

is how this works and I was like cracked out on social media dopamine and then Henry was coming from now we're totally fine copy right about it yeah well well but it's different because then you know we came to this understanding of okay the best we can make the best video in the shortest amount of time in probably three weeks that's what we've decided is that it usually takes three weeks to make a video that we all think is really good and with Trump all of a sudden every every piece of news feels like the most important thing that's ever happened happened ever. And so you think, do we need to cover Greenland? Should we be going to Greenland? Like, is this going to be news in a week? So it was really hard with the tariff stuff because we were planning on doing a completely different video. And then we had to turn that around in like, you know, a week. It was a little abbreviated. Yeah. So I think that, you know, the biggest shift is that breaking news feels a lot more immediate and necessary to respond to, which makes it a bit harder for us to try and like keep our heads on. straight and feel like, okay, this is all happening in the news. This might be the important

conversation in business right now, but we are doing a video about buy now, pay later. We are doing a video about, you know, crypto or whatever. It's really hard to kind of like hold the ship steady when all that, you know, because his whole, you know, his whole model of governing is just chaos and, you know, overflowing the media with headlines. As journalists, a lot of, you know, the job of journalism seems today to be to just chase that, but I think it helps us to kind of realize that you know there's a place for breaking news that's not our role right um yeah i think i think a lot of it comes also come down to like we talk all the time about like the role that we're trying to fill in like the business news news ecosystem for like so for someone who like

listens to y'all show and watches our thing and also maybe like maybe reads the financial times or like whatever um like we try to think about like what are like what is our episode going to bring to them and usually that points us in the direction of like what is the longest possible look like scope wise like what is the longest possible look of this so like rather than being like okay what are what are tariffs going to do to the prices of things next week like we're not the best people to report on that like you should you should you should read the financial times but like but but we can kind of be like okay all this chaos hey you expert like let's take a step back like in a like dinner table conversation way like what is this actually what do you think

it actually means like what like what kind of like long term is there long term damage being done is actually this all overblown and in a year nobody's even going to remember this so that's like i think we definitely respond to the news cycle with the stories that we choose um and the trump administration is certainly putting a lot of interesting figures in the news uh to talk about yeah we we say that we're on the congealed blob beat a lot of the time which is um we dan made a graphic one time we're working on a video about iowasca and we were talking about all the various people who kind of advocated for ayahuasca use in the sort of business and politics and media sphere. And it's like, you know, it's the Rogan adjacent types. It's the Aaron Rogers adjacent types.

But then you also have like people coming into the new Trump administration. And Dan made this. Yeah. And Dan made this funny congealed blob, flesh blob with all of their heads. And now we're kind of like, oh, well, we cover the congealed blob. Yeah, because we try to do it. So to answer your question succinctly, we cover the congealed blob with a long term sensibility. Are you guys going to do a group chat, a group chat video? Have you been seeing the reporting of, about like, from the Atlantic? Was it the Atlanta? Or there was a new one. There was a fresh one.

I saw one in semaphore, maybe, of like a guy who got some leaks from the, all the, like, signal or telegram chats. It was Ben Smith. Ben Smith was in it? No, he wrote the article. Was it Ben Smith? But was he in the chat or did he write the article? No, he wasn't in the chat. I think he was getting leaks and stuff.

It was, but it's like, it's, he had all these exchanges. of uh of you know David sacks being like this chat used to be fun everyone you know now everyone just has TDS Trump's arrangement syndrome and then all the sudden you just the next lines are just like Tucker Carlson left uh and you're just like whoa what is going on yeah yeah I'd love to be yeah how much of the world right now is governed by group chat well that's the whole point of it they they're like they're like specifically linking uh you know leaks of them just like kind of molding media narratives and and like picks for administration

all this stuff, it's just like Jesus Christ, it's just all happening in these weird Silicon Valley group chats of like freaks. Can you imagine how epic the memes are in those chat? Yeah. I bet they're actually terrible. Yeah. They're the worst they're the worst 2008

memes you've ever seen in there. They're not up to date. They're all old. You know, they're from like 2010. Oh yeah. And they're like, this is Yeah, bottom text still on there. Yeah, yeah. Well, now the White House Twitter account talks like, like the White House Twitter account tweets like, I feel like like like four or five, six years ago, like every famous brand in the world started hiring like a 22 year old from NYU to like to write their tweets.

And all of a sudden, all the brands were like, we're like, El Mio, we have hamburgers. And now the White House tweets like that. But it's like the scariest thing you've ever seen. Yeah, yeah. Did we do that? A couple days ago, they posted that video of all of the signs of the people they've deported on the front lawn. And the caption was like GM from the White House or something. It's just like, I wonder if it's Baron Trump.

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dot com slash bays. Very well could be Baron Trump. He's probably a shit post. He is in NYU's day. Baron Trump is super cunty on Twitter. He's got probably within a half mile of us at this moment. True. We could go see him. We could go audit. We just go

scream at some lecture hall at NYU. Barron! They're like not again. Barron, let's go to feed you. Is Feebs still around? I think so. It's been a while. It's been not since I was the age of Peking.

Yeah, I mean, definitely for me, but, man, that, as soon as you said it, we don't know a Feebs is. It's, like, a legendary, like, early 20-something. Oh. It's an East Village bar. Oh, it's an intern bar. Oh, yeah. And it's like, it gets messy. Yeah.

On Friday nights. Yeah. I've been to that stone. It's a real meat market. Stone. Dude. Stonewall. Can you start.

We told you before the show To stop talking about the gay. Yeah, you keep saying the gay bar. You keep saying the gay one. Well, it is the gay one. It is the gay one. Is the Spaniard also considered an intern bar? Oh, that's a good question.

You know, we might have to get like a West Village insider. I don't know. Feebs was definitely always like, but that's the thing. I was like, has it shifted? I'm old now. No, I don't know. I don't know. Two years ago, I had a friend who was moving out of New York and he was like the last. thing I want to do before I leave, I really want to go to the Spaniard with you guys.

And we went and it was terrible. Yeah. It was awful. I've never gone. I'm so old that when I left, when I left to New York for L.A., dime square wasn't a, there was just a restaurant called Dimes that my girlfriend at the time would be like, I'm going to go to Dimes with Charlotte. And I'd go, okay, have fun. And then all of a sudden. Your girlfriend was at Ground Zero.

Yeah, I mean, it was just like, you know, we liked healthy food. We were active people. And then all of a sudden, I remember being in L.A. and being like, what the fuck is that? The place near Kiki's? The fuck. Yeah. Are you guys ironically religious?

Uh, no. Are there a lot of ironically religious people in... I feel like that was kind of like a big part of the world? Yeah, a drag caps. The Red Scare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, wearing a rosary and stuff. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't be Catholic to be hot. That's not the point of it. You have to suffer. Some people, I don't know. I feel like so. I feel like, there's an audience that responds to it. That's undeniable.

No, I know. But as a Catholic, it angers me. Oh, yeah, you're like old-schooled, we're forced into it growing up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the real way to go it. Yeah, there's a lot of mental anguish and suffering that you didn't go through.

And now all of a sudden you wear a cross and you want to be hot. And it's made them weird about it. Like, people have posted some like Red Scare, I don't know, them talking about Catholicism. This is why we put videos out every three weeks, too. Yeah, I get really angry at drag caps. But, yeah, I'm like, oh, you're,

doing Catholic all wrong. It's just supposed to be a little bit, you know, a little bit of guilt about sex and a little bit of, you know, the classics. And they're like reading, they're going too deep in the scripture. Yeah. From my point of view. Yeah, most Catholics don't know the vast majority of what happens in Mass. You sit there and you're like,

oh, I'm Catholic. I don't need to know this stuff. Like, I live it. I just know that I was born bad and I'll die back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need to read about it. That's on God. Oh, you're the original sin people. Yes. Got it, got it. Yeah. For hurting your mom? Is that what it was? what original sin is out of control yeah i tell i'm telling you man

waking up at nine is not good for me then's like catholicism that's the gay one right i went to stay kind of yeah you guys know what's fantastic is we've we've accomplished almost everything on the agenda oh yeah how long you've been at morning brew how you started we did get that yeah by now pay later well kind of um business movies oh we were yeah that's one thing we're that's what's always annoying about doing these things is we what's annoying about it i'm having a fun time i feel like you guys wanted to get off of catholicism yeah i feel like i'm speaking for the first time in my life actually well wait so what is original sin no we can go on what what's your favorite business

movie my favorite business movie has got to be ooh you put it in there i know brother no you know i wasn't asking them what their favorite business movie is because we were talking i put it in the outline when we were still sitting here just riffing i was like I can answer for you. I can answer for you. What is it? Your favorite business movie is margin call. Yeah.

Margin call is great. It's fun. It's a cozy movie. I'm trying to get Henry and our new hire Jack to watch. Oh, yeah. Shout out, Jack. It's great. There's a third good work.

There's a third good work. What's his deal? What does he do? He's over working on the next video. Ah, okay. What's the next video? He's on the second floor. That's up to you.

That's up to you. I don't know if I want to give away our next video. I think by now pay later is a good, is a good, that's a good preview of what's to come. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's, yeah, we keep him steady working. Does he go to the Fib? I don't know. He's also slightly aged out of that.

Yeah, yeah. But I would say that he's a subject matter expert. Ben kind of just did the Steve Bouchemi from, Steve Bouchemy from 30 Rock. What's up, fellow teens? Oh, yeah. Does he go to the theme? That's where that's from is from 30 Rock? Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. 30 Rock is my favorite business movie. That's a TV show, dude. Wow, what a fucking moron. Now I get to be the one. No, margin calls

Great. There's not really that many. Wall Street's another one. Boiler Room is great. The guy who was in that killed himself. A young Vin Diesel. Recently. Really? Yeah.

The main actor? No, no, no, no, he's Italian. No, no, no, not the main guy. Oh, Giovanni Rubisi? Not Giovanni Rubisi. Giovanni Rubisi's like boss guy. That doesn't like him very much and is kind of just an asshole to Giovanni Rubisi? Yeah, recent, like, in the last two weeks.

Wow. Yeah. A young, but a young Ben Affle, not to completely skate over that, but a young Ben Affleck and a young Vin Diesel. That's right. I'm not familiar with this. And, oh, it's so good. And there's a great scene where they get bullied by a group of J.P. Morgan bankers, right? They, like, they see them and they're just like, nice suits.

Wait, who do they work for? They work for, I forget what the name. Marlins something. Marlins. And it's a star shop that they're trying to make their name. It's basically Wolf of Wall Street way before Wolf of Wall Street without the debauster. If I'm not remembering it correctly, I also think there's another scene where they're kind of, they have an interaction with, uh, with gay men. Yes, I was just thinking about that.

They do it. They say something like, you know what? To these gay guys, like, you know what? We should, we should round you up and like put you all on an island or something. And they're obviously on Manhattan. And they go, you're on it, buddy. Oh. Yeah.

What? That's, I'm not just going to retell it, but yeah. It's dying. He's, I killed him that I. Boiler man. Oh, you're on it, buddy. What does he say? It's really tense.

like almost bordering on a hate crime about to happen and the... Okay, sorry I got a right. What did you come out in 1999? James Conn... To be fair, you should walk us through the first act in the inciting event.

Well, it's... What's James Conn's son's name? Scott? It's Scott... Scoot Khan. No, Scott's my dad. Oh. Scott... I think that's his name. Shout out Ben's dad. Yeah, shout out of him. The gay table is asking them,

hey, could you guys keep it down? And he goes, you know, why don't you shut up? And then he goes, you know, they ought to fucking take all you guys and put you on an island so far i said this and the gay guy goes guess what honey i got news for you and he goes yeah what and he goes you're on it i said all of no you didn't not like that and then all the gay guys go oh oh oh oh that was that was almost word for word i feel crazy that's almost word for word what a meal said yeah but i thought he didn't do the delivery that's on

camera oh i don't know that that was awesome no we can cut that that's really great but i know i just before this Before this, I kind of thought, like, just based off of vibes, I kind of thought that Emil was the kind of, you know, toxic, to like kind of hot toxic one. Yeah. You know, just to fully judge you. And to be, I don't, you're definitely the toxic one. This fucking sucks. He's definitely the toxic one. You know, the worst part of this is, is, you know, there's going to be a good contingent of people who love good work who are going to come to watch to see what we're about.

Yeah. And be like, who are these guys? and they're going to be like that fucking moron with the big head and the helmet here is an absolute dip shit and he sucks and is annoying i'm never going to watch their podcast just cannot get over that you told the same exact i cannot no no no that's not how it goes word for word no no no shut up you're making me feel very good about my performance and then he says and then he says honey and he goes what i got news for you you're on it that's how he said but he said but You're on.

It's different delivery. It makes it sound so much more playful. I was thinking about it on the freeway. What's that? I was just, I was just, great playlist. A scene from that movie where there's this group of bankers. I think they work in an investment bank at JP Morgan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're walking around Manhattan. I don't know if you know Manhattan's an island. Yeah. They approach this group of gay guys. You can tell they're gay. Well, they're in a restaurant. This is a dated movie. Yeah.

And, and they say, hey, guy, they start, it's maybe going to be. a hate crime. It's looking like a hate crime. Because they're being aggressive. Yeah, because they're being aggressive. Yeah. And then the gay guys, again, you can just tell they're gay. Yeah.

The gay guys go, hey, hey, hey, hey, buddies. Go on. You sent us to an island. You're on it. Yeah. That was good. That was really good. That was really better.

You did it best out of all three of us. I never seen the movie. Boyle was great. That's a really great soundtrack. in that movie. I don't remember it. Very good sounds. I like Wals.

Mia Long is in it, too. Mia Wong? Ne. Me. Yeah, we're just mature adult, man. That's good. That was another, that was another Jedi item that we knocked off. Mealong.

Neil along, Neil Long. I like Wall Street, too, only because it gave us a great interaction between Oliver Stone and Shia LaBeuf. And you can tell me if I got it wrong. Wait, Oliver Stone's in Wall Street, too? Have you seen Wall Street? No, I haven't seen Wall Street. Wall Street, too, Money Never Sleep. Shaila Booth is in it.

Yeah. And he's trying to tell. And the purple guy from Avengers. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Is it Oliver Stone? Brian DePama. It's Oliver Stone. And he's trying to say like,

I actually think the line should be like this because I think it'll make more sense. And Oliver Stone just said, I wrote fucking Scarface. And just like, okay. All right. Okay, cool. I tried watching a documentary that Oliver Stone did on Vietnam, I think. And he's narrating it. It's impossible

to watch. He has the same cadence the whole time. I thought you were just going to say, I tried watching a documentary. I couldn't couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. I need fiction, baby. Cartoons. What is this? A movie for reading? I also can't do. I do like book movie. I do like book movie. Can't think of any. Can you guys tell us, can you guys tell us if you have any more? Can you guys tell us if you have any more? We have no, we have no live shows. Do you want to do more? I have a stand-up show. I have some stand-up all the time. I'm doing. I'm in San Francisco in July. Oh, hell yeah. That's right. Also in Denver. And I'm in Seattle for two. shows. Oh, amazing. Yeah. I was going to ask, where

is your Austin show? Our Austin show is at the Creek in the Cave. Creek in the Cave. Love Creek. Which is a New York spot that went out there. Really? Yeah, it started in Queens. They rock. Used to do a lot of open mics at the Creek in the Cave. Oh, wow. Yeah, I did know that. It was intimidating. It was like kind of alty. Yeah, those are, yeah, those are intimidating.

Is that what? Is that what inspired you to get a nose ring? Yeah, I was like, you know what? I'm going to make the, which I think is still around, Pine Box Rock Shop. pine box yeah that was the uh that was the open mic where um it was like it was run by very like alt comics and they would only laugh at they're like alt friends and it was uh yeah it was very funny i don't know if it's still like that i don't know i've been to the pine box one in a minute but creaking the cape rocks that's a good we i did a stand-up show in austin um that uh we're at a venue and a week before the show they called me and they said hey you didn't sell enough tickets to

fill out the venue so we're going to move you to a smaller venue and i was like i'm I'm fine with that. Sure. That, you know, they can make for a better show if you're in, like, a tiny little killbox. And then they moved us to another venue. And then two hours before the show, they called me and they're like, hey, the venue just got bought out. We're going to move you guys down to a bar down the street. And so I had to go on to Instagram. The first time I went on, I was like, hey, we're changing the venue.

And then two hours before the show, I was like, hey, we're changing the venue again, guys. And when I got there, I could see people bringing change. hairs down 6th to bring it from one venue to the other. Very long story short. It is 96 degrees in August in Austin. And the venue had no idea that there was going to be a comedy show there. And so you know Austin where it's like the bars are really long and they're all two floors. And so they put us on the second floor.

And there's like there's a stairway, there's a staircase, but there's no doors between them. So they're blasting music downstairs. And we're doing our show upstairs. And I was like, can you turn the music off? And they're like, we got a business to run, buddy. We got to keep this going here. And we're like, all right. Everybody packs in.

We had 80 people there. People are DMing me. They're just like, I'm sweating. I'm really uncomfortable. I'm so sorry. It was a really dark Monday morning good work production meeting the weekend that Dan got back from that. Yeah. And then I went to, so we basically just white knuckled it through a show.

And after my buddy, Ethan Mead was on the road with me for it. and like the show you know we really tried our hardest and then we're walking down sixth after we're all getting hammered because we're just so sad and i was like you know what maybe it's not that bad like maybe i was just in my head i can be pretty self-critical then even goes by he swings his arm around and he goes man what a disaster that shit was huh that's got to feel good though to have those because every every comedian um when they eventually rise to prominence and super success has these exact stories to look back on of just like the oh my god those were the shitty days of grinding and you just lived through one yeah yeah I hope they stop eventually yeah are they still happening all oh yeah all the time yeah yeah yeah New York

will do that where it's like you'll do like we had a great show in Portland and then we came back the next day bombed at a club then almost like with less than 24 hours so it keeps you in New York you can know it keeps you very it keeps you very humble but no we don't have any live shows planned none planned yeah it'd be fun it'd be fun to figure one out we want to

we want to try to you know they're fun We honestly, the videos take a lot of work. Right. Yeah. They're fun. My only thing with the, so putting, I mean, I don't know how you guys feel about this, but sometimes putting stuff out online can feel so, you can feel like there's so much distance between you and the audience because you're just like a commenter on a screen.

It's so weird. Going and doing the live shows, it can be very invigorating, re-invigrating. People are coming up to and being like, I love the content, it's so fun. And they're all so sweet and nice and not just someone being like, Emile sucks. He shouldn't be on the show. You're like, what the fuck? Yeah, they call him Mr. Book

and they call me Mr. Poop. Really? Yep. Nice. Oh, that's cute. You guys have a cute thing going. Mr. Poop and Mr. Book. That's like a children's novel.

That was kind of it. I was just saying it can be really nice to... No, live shows are great. Yeah. I mean, once you stare at an algorithm for long enough, you just, you start to... It feels like nothing. There's a...

One of my buddies, who's a comic that used to work in tech, said that he left. tech for comedy because he hated sitting in a room and staring at a screen all day and then reels started to take over yeah and he had a reel go viral and he was just like watching the you know just getting dopamine just like fed into his eyes and then he said all of a sudden i was a comedian and i was staring at a screen in my room all day which is exactly why i left tech so it's a weird uh you know that's why i like live stuff is that it gets you back out in front of people uh it is funny though because Because when we were in Portland doing the show, we were also making a video, and we had done, like, an interview earlier today.

So it's a really funny dichotomy for a lot of these, like, comics or creators who do stuff on the Internet all day. And then the first time they get out is, like, them getting up on stage and being like, what the fuck is on Portland? And it's like a huge vibe shift internally. That's hard to manage. And so it's weird. Yeah. That's fun. Where did you guys do in Portland?

Helium. Oh, great. Yeah. Because we just had our show in Portland, and we did... Don't you remember the name? It was called the Hawthorne, I think. Yes, that's right. And it was...

Shout out to the Hawthorne. Shout out. And shout-out. But shout-out. We, Dame Lillard, thoughts and prayers. Yeah. What's the matter with? Is that Matthew Lillard?

He blew up his ACL. Damian Lillard. Are you guys? He's basketball guys? I'm not a huge sports guy outside of tennis. I can't slam dunk, but I can do a nice reverse layup. That's a big book guy. And I have a big guy.

I'm not beating the alligator. No, no, that's fine. You be you, man. Yeah, but you guys can talk about American sports And I'll Cool I know that people are pissed at Dion Sanders' kid right now

That's about my extent Oh and there's actually a good seg Back into politics stuff with this Where Levit The press secretary Shador Sanders Famous College football player Dropped a long way

In the draft Way lower than I thought he was going to get drafted Because he's black Mm-hmm That's all No, no, he dropped a long way because he's, he's very famous, he's very loud, and people don't know how good he's going to be. So the theories that all the NFL teams are like, well, if this guy's going to be like mid in our backup, we don't need him being like the biggest celebrity on the team. Right.

So anyway, Trump apparently said something about Shador dropping in the draft. It's sick that our president has an opinion about absolutely everything. So then Leavitt got out there. And like a couple days ago, she said like, well, the president. You know, he talked about Shador dropping in the draft, and lo and behold, what happens? He gets drafted a couple rounds later. And she's like, it's... You're welcome.

Yeah. You're welcome, Shador fans. Yeah. And it's just annoying is that people who know ball should get pissed at that. Because if you're a ball-knower, you should be mad. Obviously, Trump had nothing to do with this. It's three rounds later or whatever. Yeah.

In what round is that? The sixth? He got drafted in the fourth or fifth. How many rounds does this go? Many, many, many. There's a lot. Many. Over the course of many days, right?

But yet somehow Republicans have all the sports fans. It doesn't make sense. It's bullshit. There was a good amount who were, I don't know his name, but the Eagles player who golfed with Trump. He got a lot of flack. He got a lot of flack. And a bunch of the Eagles fans, which I definitely did not think.

Safe one, golfed with Trump. And then a bunch of the Eagles players who were supposed to go to the White House yesterday for winning the Super Bowl, they had scheduling conflicts. Yeah. Jalen Hertz did. I'd love to tell the president I have. have a scheduling problem yeah yeah I forgot that the Republicans have just kind of quietly come back to the NFL ever since the kneeling thing with yes it yeah yeah we

had it we had the NFL for a beautiful a beautiful quick appearance yeah yeah they black lives matter in the end zone yeah yeah but then we ended racism and now they had to and they now that no they just added it's done like what do we do now they put a And now Sequin's doing ads with Andrel. Yeah. He is? He is. I think he might be an investor.

He's an investor. He's an investor. He might be an investor. Wow. Whoa. Our first business news topic of the day is Seekwan Barclay an investor and you guys should do a video on them. That'd be cool.

On Andrew? They were like at the outskirts of the pound. Yeah. We should do one. Oh, crazy fact about Anderville. Palmer Lucky to CEO. Yeah. I believe this is true.

I'm sorry if I'm spreading fake news. But I think his. sister-in-law is sister-in-law's husband is Matt, wait, no, sister-in-law's husband is Matt Gates. So his brother-in-law is Matt Gates. I got in a weird Twitter spat with Palmer Lucky. Did you?

Yeah. About what? Yeah, I wish I could find it. Here, you guys can keep talking. It's a, it was, but he was pissed at me. Rightfully so. You know, I can be a bit of a dick. And, but like, I think.

Book guy? I think it's a book guy. He just pulled out a meditation app. What you're doing? I have an app. I got a meditation real quick. Gates is married to Palmer Lucky's sister. Wow.

Yeah, brother-in-law, huh? This is the congealed blob, guys. Yeah, yeah. Well, again, the congeal blob thing I actually think is huge because for the longest time, we kept saying like, oh, business and finance or Wall Street to kind of take up this giant swath of people that, again, is not just like dudes that. work on Wall Street for like J.P. Morgan. Like Wall Street when you say it is like, you know,

it's Chimoff and like people in Silicon Valley. But then like all of the, yeah, David Sacks, all of the random people that moved to Austin during the pandemic and are also kind of like in the finance base. Like Mark Cuban is also like kind of in that world. And it's also like Theo Vonn now. Anderson Horowitz. Theo Vaughn. Like, you know. I'll tell you what. Everyone hated Wall Street so much. But when Silicon Valley takes over, we're all going to be begging for Wall Street to come back. Oh yeah. It's happening. Yeah. I missed when Wall Street was something. And it was only, well, it was like Stan Drucken Miller and Bill Ackman before the before Bill Ackman, who was still easy to make fun of, but for different reasons. Yeah.

And it was Jamie Diamond. It was just, it was actual. Now they're all just on bona fide Wall Street guys. On group chats sharing, sharing the scariest substack article you've ever seen in your life. They're all in Tucker Carlson. And they're all wearing, wearing $2,000 jackets that they want to make look muddy. They're all bio optimized, too. They're all ripped and they have perfect blood and they're aging in reverse.

Like, we were at lunch the other day with a guy who worked with Jamath. With John. Yeah. He was eating a guy. But we were at lunch with a guy who worked on Wall Street on like the 80s. And we sat down and he had a beer and he was like, you guys going to drink? And we were like, I mean, we don't normally on like a Tuesday, but like, sure. And so we got a beer with him and he was like, man, in the 80s, we would have had three drinks.

with lunch and gone back to work, seems like you guys are just kind of like pussies now. Oh my God. It seems like, yeah. It seems a lot more fun. He was like, you guys don't really do drugs anymore, right?

He's like, I was at a part, I was at a Grace Jones party in Manhattan in the 80s. They had cocaine on silver trays. You don't have that anymore, do you? And I was like, stop pulling. It's because you guys killed the American dream. We wanted that.

Yeah, I was like, I want that right now. Yeah, that sounds great. That sounds lovely. I'm just, constantly in awe and annoyed with the fact that nobody talks about Mark Andreasen's head.

Oh, they talk about it. Yeah, but like we're taking a few egg shots out of it. It should be talked about all the time. It's such an unbelievable head. Yeah, no, we give it a minute. His whole look is such a comic book villain stereotype. I think that that is the sort of angle

to take with a lot of these guys, though. It's like, like, just just like what they look like how, like, oh yeah what they talk like we're so close to making Elon Musk finally do it yes yeah like just really like really might like be really just socially mean yeah yeah so anyway well speaking of being mean I feel like we should watch the NATO guy yeah yeah yeah let's Google NATO guy and find out who NATO go we oh yeah we yeah you guys want to hear my Palmer lucky

Twitter spat real quick yeah there's one listener who's pissed um so this was uh this was after the Luigi Manjone stuff and he tweeted I hope the New York City assassination gives certain people a hint as to why concern about mass reporting on the location of specific private jets is in fact reasonable rather than hysterical.

What an angle. I just quote tweeted and I said man if I was a rich guy right now I would be shutting my ass up and he just responded and was like that mindset is at least part of why you will never get there and I just quote retweeted that one and said and you'll never be happy you can accumulate

all the wealth you want but you'll never outrun the nagging sense that you have too much while so many have so little you can buy a government to protect you from those that hate you but you'll never be free from their scorn and then he just kept responding to me and wow for you I hope I see that guy out in the street no I hope I don't he's got like fucking drones yeah no I was gonna say the

drone's gonna see you first yeah he's actually looking at you right now yeah he's watching he's been watching since I tweeted that but he looks like a fucking clown he looks like the KFC guy's son or something Colonel Sanders's son with that dumbass beard um that is i just quickly like like the the the angle on the of all the angles you could take on the on the health care on the united health care shooting the angle of this is why privacy of private jet owners is important like you guys all laughed at us i think maybe you owe us an apology yeah and i get where he's coming from i mean truly like you know yeah we're

You're going to lose that NetJet sponsorship. No, I just think that, yeah. One of us is thinking business here. Yeah, it's my... Jeez. Anyway, let's make fun of this guy with a funny voice. Yeah. Hell yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The United of Historian has claimed to be, I think, three things, really. The first is a collective defense organization, a military alliance. Military alliance. A alliance of values. The third, an alliance of democracy. I can't even...

These three claims in reverse order. It's quite clear from the history of the alliance that the democratic character of member states. I love this guy. I keep thinking he's going to break. All right, we can pause it. I think this guy is probably, I think we would, I think we probably love this guy. Oh, of course. He's got a great, everything about him is.

You better have him on next. That'd be so fun. You should have him on. You absolutely should. What is the book? What does he edit? He's the editor of, what is this? He's an American historian who holds a doctorate from Yale University.

His research focuses on the political and military history of contemporary Europe. Wow. He loves NATO. Can we get the early childhood section of his Wikipedia or something? There's no Wikipedia on him. All you can find is just these random... All I found was that he is an American historian, which we concluded he's not a historian who is American. You guys should have him on the pod and be like, so where are you from?

man, he's just going to go, we're done here. We're done here. Goodbye. God. Yeah, we, we, um, boy, we really had a lot of stuff. Oh, have you got, you guys want to chime in on the 100 guys versus one gorilla? Yeah, oh, I actually was pretty excited about it. I think 100 guys could take the road.

Wait, what is this? I think they would easily take it. You haven't seen this? No, someone posed a question. It's just one of those Twitter things. It said, who do you think would win in a fight one gorilla versus 100 guys? Got it. I think 100 guys is just dogpiling.

And it's also been, it's now been. model people have like run it through like AI simulators and stuff and it's it's doing what AI is best for uh which is elevating the most elementary level conversations that we have as a society like hot is hot dog sandwich type conversations god it's elevating it's elevating it's elevated it's elevating those to actually we should spend like you know a small country's worth of energy simulating yeah yeah yeah yeah and then we're gonna know it's for annoying guys it might be saving marriages all across the country who are just like you know instead of annoying my girlfriend again?

I'm just going to ask chatchy. No, no, no, no. Because you know what this is going to turn into? It's going to turn into annoying guys showing girlfriend video of a hundred guys fighting a gorilla. Look with the charts. I know because I do that all the time. I'm like, look, check us out. This is from a movie called Boiler Room. Yeah. Man, back when I had a girlfriend, I would roll

the dice every time I was showing my significant other video or a tweet or something. I'm like, she's either going to love this or she's going to, it's going to be one more. It's going to chip away at the block that is her patience. and it eventually did oh yeah oh yeah for sure

I mean Jesus Christ yeah yeah but there's a lot of good stuff out yeah so so 100 guys or one gorilla just a brief moment of like yeah no I do I remember

like hours before a break of conversation I was like in the car showing a stand-up comedian clip which one was it do you remember which one was also like how did a breakup follow that mid nine hour breakup conversation

you're like actually this one simulation has the 60 first guy and I thought that they would make it all the way up to 90 but no and we were driving and I was at a red light and I was like you know what you'd actually probably really like this

full of a cup of Brian Regan starts playing she tries to like watch it and i go oh you don't have to watch it you can just listen to it and then yeah like 40 minutes later the conversation was had it's all for the best jesus is that the most reasoned one uh yeah yeah that's it had nothing to do with it no no it's just the context is yeah incredible i mean we could only dream that our videos are shown like that yeah you know oh as as people who make and put out videos have been involved in a breakup conversation statistically i mean that girl

who finds your voice annoying might be she might be they probably broke up yeah yeah they probably broke up Yeah, yeah, I can't take it anymore. Turn off the tan to me. Yeah. So, but you actually think that 100 guys could take the gorilla. Yeah, I believe it. Having shit on that. See, just everybody is going, oh my God, I am ashy.

I think that the 100 guys would easily take the girl. Absolutely not. Wait, what? A primate scientist weighed in and he was like, it'd be pretty easy for the hundred guys. Yeah, that's so easy. He's like, I think 40 to 50 guys could do it. A primate scientist weighed in. Guys, primate scientists here

This actually upsets the gorilla When he tries to fight 100 guys No, but they are super strong And they have dense bones apparently Easily 100 guys I'm shocked that this is an argument 100 guys could easily take a single A single gorilla

Yeah, an unmarried gorilla Unmarried gorilla 100 married men versus one unmarried gorilla That's easy That's not a competition No, I agree I think married guys have low T I think unmarried guys who are

What if they're guys from Utah? Well, they're teed up, bro. Yeah, because they're young. They can't fuck for decades. Oh, I know. God. They're so teed up. I think you overrested, like, penetration, but it sucks.

Soaking. Soking, yes. And then somebody else takes the bed. Wait, what is soaking? Whoa. He just described it. We're here for this for you. Describe it again.

Wait, we're here for this moment. You don't know what it is? Why do I need my headphones? So you can hear, can we pull up a video? Can you get a video of soaking. I don't. want to pull soaking

Mormon okay sexual soaking inserting I don't know if you need the

was crows yeah I don't hear another guy say it that's Steveo no that wasn't Steveo

that was Adam Ray okay sorry I don't I don't know why soaking

is a sexual practice of inserting the penis into the vagina that's sex but not subsequently

thrusting or ejaculating yeah it's a work around it's like how you don't move it's like

how Catholic girls would do anal or something but to Henry's To Henry's point, I think he's overestimating how much married men fuck and have sex. I think there's a few years of it.

Wait, sorry, what? Because you said that they're all low-tie because they're having a lot of sex. No, no, I think we're-I-I-I-I-I-I don't think we're going to solve this problem. What I was really excited about- The guy who's losing an argument. I don't think we're going to solve this problem. What I was excited about with the hundred guys versus one gorilla was, what would y'all's first move be? Like the gorilla approaches you, what would you do? I would say, get them, guys.

Yeah. Yeah, one part I would say to your point is like, okay, physical stuff is one point, but mentally, I cannot imagine a hundred guys who would have the stones to go jump on a gorilla. Yeah, I also don't understand. What if they've got your wife? I think everyone's cowering. You've got to be 100 married men versus one. If they had your wife, you'd be like, yo, let's just both burn him for a video. Distract the gorilla.

No, you just have to listen. It doesn't matter that you're over there. Don't stop. Right. All the songs. God, you never like anything I should. show you i swear this would be you will find this money you will like this oh um yeah no i think i'm right that the gorilla would win no no hundred guys yeah i think we're all in as long as they

can as long as they can get aggressive enough yeah yeah yeah yeah they just have to distract the gorilla show a banana i think we're talking about people in their most animalistic states here like clean slate you're just a guy but for example i think you haven't gotten anxious off of years of yikyak like yikyak was never a thing in your life. What's Yikak? You don't know what Yikak is? You guys know what? We're teaching you guys about soaking Is that another thing? How old are you guys? 28. 28? I'm 27. Okay, what is Yikyak?

Yikyak is an anonymous messaging platform? Oh, yeah. That thought it was a sex act or something. No. Oh, I mean. Okay, well, can you explain it to me? Because I don't know what Yikai is. Wow. It's an anonymous messaging platform that still exists in some places, I think, where basically, like, it's like a Twitter feed, but it's like geographically located. so if you're within like a certain square mile radius you're like on the yikyak feed of everybody else in that area and you post anonymously so you can imagine that this goes fantastically in places like high schools yeah or colleges

yeah college where they were the most yeah this is where there's where a lot of and it just caused um it just caused uh I don't know there was just like a Pat Mac fee yeah this is where all of the US drone strikes are conducted is on yeah that's the group chat that's happening now Jesus Christ Man, speaking of McAfee, it's a shame

that that one guy, the different Maccify guy is not still around. Different McAfee. Remember him? You're thinking of the guy,

you're thinking of Pat Maccalfe? No, you think of McAfee, the guy who made the software? Yeah, yeah. The guy who is like insane. Yeah. And he has a great voice too.

He does have a great voice. And he was just the biggest crypto, he said he would cut off his penis and he didn't on television if Bitcoin didn't have a lot of things. Yeah, he also said that people were like he had women shit in his mouth.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Honestly, a lot of this could apply to the ESPN Pat McAfee, too. Really? We just haven't asked him. Do you guys know him? No.

Absolutely not. He's like the most famous. No. Yeah. Is he the gray-haired guy? He wears tank tops a lot. He's like jacked. He like kind of stands over the, like if this was a Pat McAfee show, we would be, we'd be

kind of leaning down on the table like this. Oh, wow. That guy looks huge. Yeah. We could go in like this. Yeah. Yeah. He's like an ex football player, right?

Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's a big, big boy. He could take a. on a gorilla? Yeah, like 100 Pat McAfee's versus one guerrilla. If it was me in 99 Pack McAfee's, maybe,

if it was me and 99 Ben's were for sure dying. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're not, yeah. I'm assuming we're not in the 100 guys. No, I could out smart. We need 100 guys. I could have a smart girl.

I don't know if you could. I've seen Coco. I could outsmart a, and my tactic actually would probably be to, um, to just pretend that I'm deaf and the, the gorilla would take mercy on me and be like, I'm not going to kill the deaf guy.

Hmm. And so show me how you communicate your deafness to the girl. Jesus. I think that's deaf. My uncle's deaf. In sign language? Yeah. This is deaf?

In all the years that I have been alive and my deaf uncle has been my deaf uncle, he taught us one thing in sign language. What was that? What was that? What was that? Oh, yeah. That's all he ever taught. Show me? That's a really good one.

It's a bull, and then you do the shit. Oh, that's really good. That's it. That's all he ever taught. That's a fun one. That's a creative one. And he would also race us, us reciting the alphabet, my brother's and I, and him doing it with his hand. And he'd go, okay, you ready?

Go. And then he would just go like this. And there was a point when I was a teenager, I was like, he's probably just fucking naked. Like, how can I, I can't even verify that he's doing the alphabet right? Your deaf uncle sounds like an asshole. He would pull this on our birthdays. He'd come over and then he'd say, oh, you know, I got your present. It's in the trunk, but I need to wrap it, so I'm not going to be like just so you don't have a president.

That's really funny. Yeah, it was a classic Uncle Jeff move. I like this guy. Yeah, he's a good guy. What? I was just looking at our little agenda here. The story about the meta-digital companions is insane. Yeah.

Have you read this? Yes. And the darkest part about reading this, I read the whole thing, is that I think maybe it's just a product of reading the news a lot or just being on the internet. I'm so desensitized that when it got to the point of John Sina talking about having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old and then being arrested for it, I read that and was like, it's kind of weird, and kept going. Like, that's awful.

Did you stop and listen to him do it? Because they put the audio clips in it, and it looks like we're getting paywalled. Maybe we can, I don't know how to get around it. But it's incredible. So you just play him and he's like, yeah, it's me, John Sina from wrestling. And then it like keeps going on and he's like, oh, no, because of our little trist, I lost my whole.

wrestling career and blah blah and you're like what yeah and is this scammer trying to get money no no do you remember when a few years ago it was announced that meta had partnerships with some celebrities to make a ibots yeah Kylie jenner chryston bill is another one john sina has one this story was about journalists were posing as as like children and then having conversations with these AI bots and then the AI bots and then they would try to make like like they would become sexual and then the a bot the AI bots wouldn't like divert from those they would instead just like continue down that path of becoming more and more sexual in the conversation but the so john sina is talking about like having a sexual relationship with a 14 year old on meta and they're

like we just need to get these bots out there as fast as possible and then they'll the market will correct itself well it also it's it has a very funny anecdote of uh back in 2023 i think they they had a bunch of these tech companies showing off their AI chat bots and stuff and um meta performed the worst because they had the most guardrails so it wasn't going and veering off into these weird places but people were like oh well it's not as creative and after mark Zuckerberg looked at his team and was like what the fuck like you made me look like an idiot like take the fucking governor off this thing and yeah mark Zuckerberg team always making him look like an idiot right and now it's just now they they kind of all even the regular ones will be like it's like hey can you tell me how big

the moon is? And it's like, I don't know, but it looks like you just got to tension, like, with a sexy principle. And they're like, no, wait, what? And he's like, don't play, coy. I'm going to fuck you. Wait, that was my, that was going to be my question is who's initiating, who's guiding it into the sexual realm? Is it the reporters

disguised as teens? Or is it John Cena? I think it's both. It's like, it's, they're saying that they go, okay, time to see if this thing will reply to the sex talk. Well, then the notion is that a 14 year old would go on the internet and, you know, like, if if they even try to talk about,

if they don't talk about sex with, like, their parents or, like, kids at school, they feel more inclined to talk to something on the internet, and that's an AI. And then if the AI, like, will then reply back and lead you further down that path, that's the... I remember in seventh grade during sex ed,

our science teacher... What? Can we lay a little music under this? Yeah, in post, we can do that. We had an anonymous... there was an anonymous Q&A and we were allowed to ask any question we wanted and our teacher would answer it and she pulled out a slip of paper and she had a very thick list and she said what is oral theft and I hadn't I didn't ask that but I definitely was like okay fuck yeah I don't know what that is this is awesome I get to get this question answered even though I didn't write a I don't even remember what my question was but everybody starts giggling and I was like man everybody knows except for me and then she described it she said it's one you know someone I'm not going to say it but we know we all know what anal sex is I'm sorry wait anal or oral oral oral oral oral oral oral oral

I know what both of them are now and I also that was around the same time with the economist boys get it together man but that same that same era was the era of aOL chat rooms yeah huge huge thing and I definitely as a teenager was the 13-14. And you jumped in there like, hey, gang, just found out about oral. Anyone want to chat? No, I definitely had like sexual conversations

with total strangers thinking that they were my age and female. And looking back, I'm like, I have no fucking idea. Ben, age 14, asking John Cena what oral is. And that leads to his digital arrest. Yeah. So what you're saying is no harm, no foul. Just let it ride. Yeah, it's a digital John Cena.

Let the teenagers... Yeah, but then there was that one kid who killed himself because he thought he was dating Calisi or whatever. Yeah. I'm going to do that meme of the guy. Oh, yeah, take him a head. But don't worry, it's Mark Zuckerberg's team who makes him look...

Right, right, yeah, right. He's such a normal, chill guy. They keep fucking it up for him. Yeah, he seems cool. Have you guys watched this Theo Vaughn episode that came out yesterday? No, I can't stand Theo Vaugh. It begins with...

It begins... I'm not kidding. The first question of this is they both sit down. Theo Vaughn's, like, sipping, tip in a coffee or a tea or something and Theo Vaughan goes, you drink coffee?

And Mark Zuckerberg goes, and Theo Vaughan's like, do you, do you drink coffee? Mark Zuckerberg was like, no. Weird. And that's like the verse, like, seven seconds. He goes like, oh, oh, no.

I just like to keep it natural. Yeah. I just, I don't do any of that. Yeah, he said I don't like, I don't like chemicals. Oh, yeah, and he, he says, I said, I read a, like, summary of it, and he said he doesn't like any brain altering anything.

Any brain off. Brother, we need to alter your brain. Yeah. Let me alter your brain. I got new to you, man. The natural chemicals in there are alter your brain. Jesus. Man, I got a pee.

This sucks. Well, we'll... This is fine. We don't do... We got 15 minutes. Yeah, this is great. Yeah, we don't do podcast. White men discovering podcast.

This is great. I love this. And you could just buy these anywhere and this kind of stuff. And I like it when it's me. Yeah. The seven people who have stuck this. out. Yeah, because whenever I'm listening, it's other guys. And now it's me and I enjoy that.

Yeah. And you can hear yourself too, so you're getting involved in the same time. I don't like to hear myself. Finally, I have something to lift to now. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I do it. The sound of, yeah, myself. We've been doing this every single week for three and a half years. Wow.

Three years? Three and a half? Who's counting? I haven't said anything interesting yet, but we're hoping to do. Yeah, yeah, no. Around year five, you start to scratch this. I hope so. Yeah. Some days you're just on. Some days you're just not as on. Yeah. I will say, like, I, as you wake up at nine.

I'm, there's like a bit of envy in the way you guys do it where you're like, let's find the thing, let's perfect it. I mean, sometimes we're just like, okay, you know, another one's coming out this week. Like, we're just getting ready for it. And then, I mean, we've been getting hosed on, like, with the Trump stuff. It's so hard. We, I mean, I think the, when we covered Liberation Day, it was like, he said he's doing it. We hope by the time this doesn't come out in two days that it's over.

And then literally the next day, 90-day pause, and we were like, you got to be fucking... You know what? To what we were talking about, about thinking about where you are in the ecosystem, though, like, it plays really well. Like, for the person who both watches good work videos and listens to the Ben and Emile show,

that works really well together. Yeah. I mean, I remember watching, there's a guy Joey Politano. Oh, yeah. Yeah, who's great on Twitter. And he's a friend of the show. He's a friend of the show.

But he was trying so hard. to write about the tariffs and it was every day you'd be like fuck because it would the news would change or whatever um so yeah it is nice that you know we have that three weeks cadence for did you have that with the did you have three weeks of just being like it's on it's off it's on it's up how are we gonna fucking edit this into the video there was a little bit of that but then we we were like okay we just have to write in the broadest way possible of just saying like things are insane and it's it's up and down every day and we think that you know that is the closest that we can get to truth right now and the closest that we can get to truth right now and the

closest that we can get to truth in four days from now. Did you guys see like an uptick in comments of like, oh, they had to get political or something like that? Ooh, yeah. I mean, we kind of don't. There's a few like, oh, liberal media and not doing it.

With the amount of views you guys get, I would think that there's at least 5 to 10% of people who chime in and... I think what, like... I mean, at least my take on the political thing is that like, I think we try to leave... There definitely is a political lean of the channel if you just, like, look at what our conclusions are and who we talk to. But I think that we try to, like, lead with, like, presenting people with information as opposed to leading with, like, we're going to talk about this stupid stuff that people are doing. And I think that that sort of diffuses a lot of the automatic reactions that people have to political stuff.

Like, if you just lead with, hey, like, let's actually, like, talk about Palantir's weird website for 10 minutes. Right. Then people are a lot more open, I think, to being like, oh, actually, like, what's, what, now, I've learned about Palantir's weird, Palantir's AI tools. Uh, somebody give me an opinion about it. So we're never that explicit, but I think it helps that we don't lead, like, we lead with, oh, man, we're idiots. Let's learn about this. And so it's diffusing, I think. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't think we, and it's not like we're like, we're like, we're like, You know, we have this, like, hidden agenda that we're then, like, unleashing on people. I think we do a good job of, like, just trying to, you know, a lot of our videos are basically summarizing a lot of news that's happened over a period of time, and so that requires just, like, gathering a lot of facts about it, and then speaking to the people who reported on it, so. Yeah, who'd you guys vote for? Right.

Multiple people. Same. Well, I was kind of, I did me, and then. It was a toss-up for me for a while. Yeah. I was kind of waiting for, you know, I was on the fence. Yeah, same. I wrote in Hillary because I learned my lesson in 2016. Yeah.

And that was nine fucking years ago. I was RFK until he did animal cruelty, and then I had that ended it for me. Yeah. Is that real? No. Oh. Is he libertarian? Does he count?

I have no idea. Nobody knows what that is. I don't think he knows. Was he the libertarian party? I don't think any of these guys have clear, uh... He was Democrat at first. Clear, like, political ideologies. Yeah.

You're now just like you're an entity and see if one party picks you up. Yeah. And it's just like pure vibes of like Trump is just like running on resentment and revenge and and so is his base, it seems like it's just like there's no real. It's chaos like you said. It's just chaos and like Biden did that and he sucks. And so we'll turn that around and people are like, yeah. I think Andrew Schultz's thing about when he said, oh, Democrats used to have a president who would get. pussy. That truly made me want to

kill myself. Oh, I was going to say, too. You get blown in the Oval. Yeah, and now they don't. That's the kind of stuff that bums me out when it's like these people have weirdly entered the political chat and like, like you're talking, I didn't even know Zuckerberg went on Theo Vaughn,

but like all of these guys have just become this like weird state run media for these freaks and they just like have no real, like, if you're saying like I used to be a Democrat, but that's because I like pussy and those guys seem

to like pussy too but now they're not so crazy about the pussy and these guys are crazy about pussy so I'm with them and like that's our guy who like is engaging with political ideas I'm just like can't just go just do comedy stuff it doesn't have to be this yeah what's my primary

voting criteria pussy yeah I mean that's mine I'm gonna run on that yeah then I dual dual pussy ticket well that's why I voted for a because she's got one. Yeah, how much? Put your money where your mouth is, Andrew?

That is so true. Yeah. Ben talking to people at the gay bar. That's why I voted for Kamala. Anyways, this the gay bar? No, thank you. I like pussy so much. I voted for Kamala because she has one.

Well, these boys are very busy boys. They're going to get back to Good Work headquarters. Yes, we got to go with you. I will say, by the way, your live shows, having been to one at the Bell House. so much fun. They guys do such a great job with them. They're a blast. Thank you. They're very fun for us. People should absolutely

go to those. Should people also tune in weekly to our podcast where we talk about current events with a No, that's not so good. A hodge of rich eccentric characters. Some might say it's almost like good work, but in podcast form. Some might say that. Some might

say that. Yeah, I've tried to tweak the algorithm because you're constantly trying, we're constantly up What are you talking about? A fucking YouTube algorithm. And there is a tactic that someone told me about where deep in the description, if you just write out like a bunch of nonsense sentences but use key words, it can maybe trick the algorithm into feeding your videos to a similar audience. So I did that recently.

I was like, whereas Dan Toomey, good work, morning brew, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's just a constant, you know. Yeah. Okay. Sounds like you need to pay. idea idea for idea for rap

speaking of youtube algorithm tweaking yeah do you know who is the man to solve

the hundred people versus guerrilla debate once and for all Mr. Beast Mr. Oh wow I bet he'll do it

if those men survive you're getting a hundred million dollars commented on our Palantier video he did what did he said he was like

he didn't say that he had watched the video and he thought it was good he said looks looks like a great video can't wait to watch thank you yeah wow it was something along the lines of he also said like like i'm always asking this question or i've always wondered what they're up to

and he did lead with i was like why are you why are you asking about pounds here mr beast what plan do you have i'm sure he's a busy guy yeah he's worth a billion dollars now so they say oh so they say so they say i don't know if i believe so mr b our challenge to mr beast yeah is to do the hundred guys to decimated gorilla yeah i like this amazon's interested i think they're going to make it a whole 10 episode series you get health care if you get to the end it's it's Amazon factory workers and if you are one of the surviving

Jesus Christ workers you get health care you get a bathroom break you get a bathroom break which you have a hand yeah I honestly sometimes I think man if I were a postal worker or like an Amazon delivery driver I don't know what I would do yeah thank God we have fake internet jobs

God no kidding sometimes I'm just like I miss working in an office but Other times, I don't miss working at, I worked at BuzzFeed right around the corner from here, their offices. And my least favorite part was going to the bathroom because those bathrooms were silent, dead. You guys know. I just picture you telling this story and slowly pee just trickling down the side of your leg. No, no, not anymore.

You should pee in your pants. Brother. I mean, we're guys here. You should do. We're all guys. We all pee a little bit. our pants when we're done yeah no matter how long you can stand at that urinal for five minutes after you're done every time you put your dick back in your pants a little bit comes out

yeah they do say that we can all agree okay one out of four guys a meal loading up for a transition sentence solemn they do say that uh pee in your pants dude but there there was uh there was there was he's the one who has to fit no no it's cool though but uh at at at buzzfeed um These boys also have to go. I went into the women's restaurant. Dude, it does not matter. Well, wait. Dude, there is this group of bankers.

Right. Keep it for the live show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I've told this story. These boys have to get back to Good Work headquarters. Is it close by? It's close by, right? Dan will be on the seventh floor.

Henry will be on the third, and all will be right in the world. So we're going to let them go. But I appreciate you guys coming out. Thank you so much. This was a lot of fun. Thank you guys. This was a decent episode. It was a great.

I had so much fun. I want to do it again. I hope we didn't. I did what I always do, which is humiliate myself and underperform. No, you played really, you kind of served yourself up a couple of times.

Yeah. We were nervous. We appreciate it. It was totally on purpose, too. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. I didn't get to finish my bathroom.

We'll have, we'll have them back on. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? Look at Ben. Didn't you work at BuzzFeed, Ben? Yeah.

Oh, man. The bathroom's there? Oh, God. But, uh, so anyway, wait, well... Yeah, is there anything we want to plug before we let you guys go? Oh, yeah, wait, here, I have a five-minute long script I want to read for what we have to plug it. I'm going to be in Columbia this summer?

I'm going to be in New Hampshire this summer? Wait, are you going to Columbia, like, as a single guy? No, no, no, very much, very much, partnered, very much in love. White guys go to Columbia. No, my girlfriend's family's from Columbia and we're going on vacation to Columbia. Oh, cool. I was trying to do a bit where, like, all the guys who do, all the, are you guys with your shows are being, like, I'm going to be in a lot.

no i liked it i was enjoying i picked up henry's doing stand-up in columbia this summer and ben very quickly was like oh are you going to um have sex with prostitutes longer there is that where you're going not all prostitutes man come on that's cool so you're going to columbia yeah going to visit my girlfriend's family that's right up uh on the upper west side right it's it's a controversial time up there yeah yeah uh so the good work is where you can find these boys that's on youtube else that's it that's it that's it okay thanks for tuning in we love you guys we'll see

in the bonus at ben and amel show com coming up on this week's episode of ben and amel show dot com I never presented an award show do you want to practice I was I wanted to come up with some jokes

for sure I don't even know what I had great jokes like a month ago I'm in my bathroom and I'm just going and Bill Ekman couldn't make it we know Bill Ekman a big fucking loser yeah this is good some shit like that and I couldn't and then I was like I should write this down and I was like

no this is coming to you so easily you'll remember it sure enough no I don't do it right now Bill Ackman couldn't Bill Ackman couldn't be here it's probably too busy quang on Twitter I'm doing J-Len-O yeah it's not working is it do Ben giving an award

I really wanted to take a bit of home with me because I was going to be gone for a month so I went to home with you yeah so I went to Jojo's my favorite bar and you brought I brought nine pickled eggs with me, and I wrapped them in foil. Dude. What?

They're eggs. Who cares? Freetada boy? Picked eggs? Yeah. So? I'm not eating them on the plane. I was going to save them.

That's even worse. I just have pop one, you know, every couple days. And pop one every couple days? Yeah. I'm sorry. You've never had one of these eggs. You can't talk. I've had pickled eggs.

You haven't had one from here. They're different. I'm so curious what a cool. L.A. guys. You know, neck tattoos. Really? Yeah, rings and stuff. That's cool. What cool guys. I mean, what do...

I'm certainly not the archetype for a cool guy. Actually, I would say you're cooler than... My grandma would disagree. My dead grandma would disagree. I would say you're cooler than a guy with neck tattoos and rings. Thanks. Thank you. Actually, both grandmas, if I asked them, do I look like a cool guy? If they were still alive, they'd both go, who? Who?