The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 99: Getting Paid to be Racist

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So they say that racism doesn't pay, but as it turns out, racism does indeed still pay. This is larger than most of the GoFundMe's I saw for people who lost their homes during fires. People were asking for like, hey, if you could chip in, we're just trying to raise like $25,000 so we can figure out what we're doing. Now, I got to get into the N-word lady. This person's like, I said the N-word repeatedly and I need a million dollars. The N-Word lady needs my money. She needs our help. Those poor children. What a million dollars? supposed to do. The little N-word was going into our
Starting point is 00:00:32 bag and stealing diapers and stuff. Instead of just telling the kid, hey, sweetheart, get out of my bag, please. This is ridiculous. I shouldn't have to live with consequences. Yeah. And the same, this lady of like, I repeatedly called the child the N-word. And now I'm in danger.
Starting point is 00:00:48 And now people are upset with me. People want to kill me. And I might have to... I'm hurt my family. And now she's going to get a million dollars. Racist man 1488 is going to give her... She's going to make a million dollars. Yeah. He's going to make a million dollars for saying the end word.
Starting point is 00:01:30 You know I take care. Beep. Yeah. Oh, man, the B-Peds are going nuts. My B-Peds eating good tonight. Oh, man, I love the people. They always come up with something, don't they? They always come up with...
Starting point is 00:01:45 I'm sure someone has already changed their username to, like, B-Pad. It's just the icon is just a speaker or something. They're requesting Flair. I don't get it. Like, whatever. You put little tags on. Ooh, sorry about that, folks. I was like, flair, like something opening?
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Starting point is 00:04:28 sign up, have a good time, and so let's get right into it, shall we? We've got this... So, they say that racism doesn't pay, but as it turns out, racism does indeed still pay. Look, we hate to cover
Starting point is 00:04:43 bullshit you know, online video drama, but this pertains to our show because it seems like there might be a new business model that's dropped, which... Someone may have unearthed one of the easiest ways to make money here.
Starting point is 00:05:02 You know what my favorite business model is? Classic white guy carrying a suitcase in a suit. That's my favorite business model. I mean, it's a classic. A handsome looking guy. A model. I like a woman in a pencil skirt. Carrying more of a, you know, kind of like a new tote bag.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Oh, he's always totes with you. This guy's obsessed with totes in bags. you brought up briefcase i didn't get on your ass yeah well so her name is shiloh hendricks and i if there are hendricks heads in the chat please please sound off so the so the story goes and i'm sorry this is a this is a bit of a downer i think she and it happened while we were in new york i mean we should probably watch the video i don't want to hear her saying they well they bleep it out okay all right yeah do you want to do you want me see if i can let me see so well while he while he well Emile finds it, this white woman by the name of Shiloh Hendricks, it's just a shame because
Starting point is 00:06:02 it's kind of a cool name, was with her child, a white child at a playground. And a black man was there with his black child. And the black child, I think, is like autistic or something? I'm not aware of any of his. I don't even know. I'm not aware of where this boy falls on the spectrum. The kids got into a little, I don't know. No, no, no. I think what happened was the kid was going into her bag and the diaper bag and taking things. Oh, oh, oh, oh. And that prompted Ms. Hendricks to start using the slur. You know which one. The gamer word. The big one. And the guy whose son it was started filming. And she, of course, had no shame and just started. Here, I sent the video. We can watch her. This will be exciting. I can't wait to watch this video. Have you not seen the video?
Starting point is 00:06:55 I saw a little bit of it. Did you call him an... The child? Did you call the child the n*** word? It is my own business. You call him a... Okay, why don't you have the boss to say it right now again? You, n***.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Okay. All right, that's what you say. Nobody dig into your shit. Nobody dig into your shit. A little kid just dig it down. That little kid, you call him a... Yeah. a child? Are you about to hear him? You chase him here?
Starting point is 00:07:28 He took my son stop. So that gives you the right to call the child, five-year-old, an n-word. That's what you're going to call him. You know, that's a hate speech. And you can be the that. I don't get a bit of that. Okay, we'll see about that what the internet has to say about you. So maybe, you know, not the most pleasant lady to be around at the playground. But you're probably wondering, where does, where does the business model come in. Yeah. Well, she, you know, being an enterprise and racist, has started a, which I don't even, I didn't even know about this platform, give, send, go. Yeah. It's, it's the Christian one,
Starting point is 00:08:07 right, or something like that? Oh, is it? I don't know. But I'm sure GoFundMe would not have put their, their good name on this. She explains why she's, um, why she's gone to hear, so. All right. She bleaks out her child's face. But she's taking a picture of them and she says, help me, protect my family. My name is Shiloh. I've been put into a very dire situation. I recently had a kid steal from my 18-month-old son's diaper bag at a park. I called the kid out for what he was. She doesn't say what she called him out for what he was. I called him out for what he was. I called him out for what he was. Any mom would have done this. Another man who recently found out, who we recently found out, has had a history with law enforcement proceeded to record me and follow me to my car.
Starting point is 00:08:52 He then posted these videos online, which has caused my family and myself, great turmoil. My social security number has been leaked. My address and phone number have been given out freely. My family members are being attacked. My eldest child may not be going back to school. Even where I exercise has been exposed. Not where she exercises as a fellow exerciser. That's crossing a line.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I'm asking for your help to assist in protecting my family. I fear that we must relocate. I have two small children who do not deserve this. we've been threatened to the extreme by people online. Anything will help. We cannot and will not live in fear. Thank you. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:09:28 Do you think she deserves people to donate to her? I wonder if anyone's responding to this. Oh, yeah. Wow. If you look at that, she's at $676,000. Good for her. Ayah, y'ai. With the goal of a million dollars.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Let's take a look at the most recent donations. So Anonymous Give her $250. Save Our Culture, $5. Ah. Somali Petos Must Die. Somali Petos. Yeah, Steve Jones gave $30.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Let's organize by the most, the highest. Top donations. So, Elon Musk probably. Someone did collect some pretty good ones of so there's been quite a few people donating 1488, the famous. Oh yeah, yeah, the Hitler number.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And with the name average white man. and then Odin 1488. Only donated $7, kind of a, kind of a cheapo. I wonder why 2006 and 2004 and 2003 and 2002 are dollar amounts that people are. And then we've got a real class act here. Aryan Cunny Rapist, 1488. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:10:37 $25. Yeah. And then White Lives Matter 1488. A pretty straightforward Finnish racist. Finish racist. Two ends, obviously. Oh, because they're. from Finland.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yes. Got it. Yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, I like this. Scroll down prayer requests. Click the pray button. You just leave a message.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I think this is the Christian one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There we go. My thoughts from the Bayes podcast. Yeah. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. James 516.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I tell you what, these, the goal of a million dollars, this is, this go fund me. or give, send, pray, whatever the hell it is, give send go is, this is larger than most of the go fund means I saw for people who lost their homes during fires. Yeah, there's, well, then there was, asking for like, hey, if you could chip in, we're just trying to raise like $25,000 so we can figure out what we're doing. Now, I got to give it to the N-word lady. This person's like, I said the N-word repeatedly, and I need a million dollars. The N-word lady needs my money. She needs our help, those poor children.
Starting point is 00:11:46 What a million dollars? What else was she supposed to do? The little N-word was going into her bag and stealing diapers and stuff. Instead of just telling the kid, Hey, sweetheart, get out of my bag, please. She had to call him what? There's an update.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Hello, where do I even begin? The overwhelming support that has my family and myself that my family and myself has received is unbelievable, blah, blah, blah. We are currently doing okay. No one has been harmed, and we are getting by. We are taking the proper procedures in order to stay safe from these constants. threats. I'm still very frightened. And I don't think I will feel safe until we can escape
Starting point is 00:12:20 completely. I'm so grateful to all of you who blah-b-de-blah blah-blah. It's such a strange feeling to say the N-word online. She's going to make a million dollars. Yeah. He's going to make a million dollars for saying the N-word. Hey, gang. We've got to take a break to thank a sponsor of today's show. It is Cash App. Oh, I love Cash App. You got Cash App? You don't have Cash App? I don't have Cash App. I don't have cash app. You don't have cash out. No. Should I download it right now? Let's see how long this takes. It takes you two seconds. All right. Challenge accepted. It's, I mean, if you're anything like me, you get, you get mad at people, oh, I'll get you back next time. Oh, yeah, yeah, just
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Starting point is 00:14:26 spend it in a stupid way and end up worse off than uh this is the i mean the most frustrating things like with so many of these things people are just they just want to eliminate consequences at this point it's uh it reminds me i don't know if you saw that viral clip of uh you know the little 21-year-old Doge kids being interviewed by Jesse Waters. No, I didn't. But the one, you know, the one kid talks about how sad it's been for him because, you know, I think he dropped out of Harvard to do this, you know, he's like, I, I did what I thought was right for, for my country.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And all of my, all of my friends, everyone I knew, they all just like, they make fun of me. They think I'm, they think I'm an idiot and they're mean to me. mean and it's just like yeah that those these are the consequences of yeah i'm i'm ethan dropped out of harbors let's see what he says oh geez i'm here to serve my country and it's been unfortunate to see you know lost friendships uh most of campus hates me now um but i think fundamentally i hope people realize through conversations like this that reform is genuinely needed and if there's one i think this is important to say if there's one group of people who really have a shot of success.
Starting point is 00:15:44 It's the people here. You know, they're up until 2 a.m. Monday through Sunday. Doge did not recognize weekends. I dropped out of Harvard and he looks like Elon Musk with an Asian filter on, isn't he? I wouldn't say that. Kind of his mouth? His nose? His cheekbones?
Starting point is 00:16:01 I don't see it, but I... All right. It's just me then. It's just a disagreement and opinion. So... But it's just like this, this obsession with, it's not okay for me to experience consequences. It's like, buddy, this has like been roundly panned. Like, all you did was leave Harvard to kick a bunch of people off of, uh, public programs that they relied on and, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:23 cut the, cut the world off of, um, much needed aid. And you're like, I don't know, this is ridiculous. I shouldn't have to live with consequences. Yeah. And this same, this lady of like, I repeatedly called the child the word. And now I'm in danger. And no, people are upset with People want to kill me. And I might have to... I might have to leave my town. I might have to leave my town. Enward.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Excuse me. Golly. And it's funny. And now she's going to get a fucking million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. So... They're literally going to give her a million, like,
Starting point is 00:17:00 racist man fucking 1488 is going to give her... Well, so there's an interesting conspiracy going around, which is that among the more, and I put this heavily in... scare quotes um like more woke right wingers online which is that
Starting point is 00:17:19 yeah yeah like like like they're they're they're not happy about that lady they're they're ones with a conscience I guess but because that black kid who like I don't even know what happened he stabbed a white kid at a track meet or something something happened okay and that was a few weeks ago and that kid's got to go fund me
Starting point is 00:17:40 and they've become like dueling go fund me and it's it's all these guys with nothing better to do who view everything through the lens of conspiracy theory are guessing what is the conspiracy the conspiracy is that this is just the deep state trying to inflame racial tensions to distract from the real you go too deep i'm not going deep it just came into my feet and i saw it and i'm like oh okay patriot takes Patriot, at Patriot 420, whatever the fuck says, I'm not falling for it. This is Xi Jinping and Russia trying to stoke racial tensions in the United States. This is all
Starting point is 00:18:21 for, I don't know. No, we did this to ourselves. We broke our country and now this is all people have. Yeah. You either get to I'm going to donate to the white woman because because I don't know, I don't even know. I don't know what the hell they're thinking. Anyway, they like that they want to, you should be able to say the N-word to people if you if and you shouldn't have repercussion yeah there's no carmelo anthony he's raised let's see i that might not be the right one because there's no way
Starting point is 00:18:50 that one's only raised that much how much uh it looks like five five grand out of a goal of six hundred thousand no look at it like five hundred and twenty three thousand dollars out of a goal of 600 oh oh whoops i thought that said like five thousand something and change wow uh good for him I mean, good for everybody. But that one at least makes sense. Regardless of what you think happened, I imagine he wants to use it for legal funds. Yeah, can you show,
Starting point is 00:19:16 can you organize by the highest donations? Let's see what we got on this end. Someone named Tamara, Susie, anonymous keeper. Is there any way to search for if Aryan Cunney rapist has donated to this one? It'd be interesting to see if he's donated to both, a real chaos actor.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. Well, so there you have it, folks. And you know who else made a lot of money by being racist and just recently announced his retirement? None other than Warren Buffett. We're going to get a cease and desist from the most famous racist. No, I'm joking. Warren Buffett is, I like the guy.
Starting point is 00:19:52 He's an old thumb of a man. He's 94. And if you don't know who he is, God help you. I really don't know what else to say. If you don't know who Warren Buffett is, we'll tell you right now. His last name, his father invented the buffet. Yep. And they made a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:20:09 They made a lot. You've heard of hometown buffet? That's him. By the way, you know what I just learned today? You're not going to be able to guess. It's just an ism. You're not meant to guess. Just let me say it.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Oh, well, then why do you? Well, okay, try to guess what I learned today. That it doesn't feel very good to slam your penis into a drawer. Oh, brother. I learned that ages ago. Okay. Uh, no, Trent Resner's grandfather started Resner HVAC. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah, we're all on the same. I didn't know that. And I remember seeing one of those. I didn't either. Someone tweeted it. It went by it. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, well, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Fuck me then. Any hoopsed. Warren Buffett, the longest serving CEO of any publicly traded company announced over the weekend. He's retiring. He's 94. And he said, oh, I'm just about that nerd. this shit. I think I'm going to stop her. He went for us Gump mode and just said, I think I'm going to stop now. I just felt like running. Yeah, I just felt like investing.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So we're going to, we're going to recap a little bit of, he's got some really great life lessons. And you people are always asking us for life lessons and whatnot. So he also went out with like a nice little message about the current state of the world. He's, I mean, did you, did you watch his, his, uh, not all of it, remarks at all? Well, we can get to some of that. I got all of his advice below. I thought we'd do a little bit of a who he is, just a real quick thing about what this man accomplished. Oh, sure. What do you think? All right. Yeah, yeah. He's a freak, Warren Buffett. He's a, he's an annoying freak to me. Why? Because he lives in the same house he bought in Omaha in 1950. for $31,500.
Starting point is 00:22:05 He's also got a lot of those stories of like there's the one about his son was it was like he could either give you a million dollars he was like he was offered whatever stock in Berkshire Hathaway and instead like just
Starting point is 00:22:23 chose to go his own way but it's like he definitely steals his money and he's just like a musician and everyone's like it's so nice he went his own way but I'm like what did he do? Name one whatever his name is Jack Buffett song or whatever. I could name a Jimmy Buffett.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, if his son was Jimmy Buffett, I'd say, you know what? He made a nice name for himself, then he? Peter Buffett, American... Oh, this poor bastard. I mean, maybe he did. Peter Buffett... He's a composer.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I probably wouldn't know anything. Yeah, whatever. He began his musical career in the 80s in San Francisco. He's a regional Emmy Award winner, whatever the hell that is. Wait, does it say that his dad is more... Oh, yeah, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:23:03 He decided to transition. What? Oh, from advertising to music. They decided that a way to do that is to get a record deal based on movie scores. So has he done anything? Discography. Let's click his discography. He scored dances with will.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Wolves? Dances with Will. Wow, that's pretty cool. Dances with wills. Wow. Okay, discography. The waiting one by one. Lost Frontier.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Young. You know, you know, he's a, you know he's a popular. popular musician because not one of his albums is blue on Wikipedia. You cannot click it. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. God bless him. He put out a lot of albums. Most recently, 2011. Good for him. He truly went his own way. Yeah. So Warren Buffett, though, is worth $160 billion as of today. And he lives modestly in the same Omaha home that he bought in 1958 for $31,500. And Berkshire Hathaway is, a very interesting story. It's unlike anything else out there. And I mean, you could just spend hours and hours reading about this guy and what he did. But it started with him. He bought a textile mill in 1965. It was a struggling textile mill. But they were just giving those things away in 1960s. 1965, you could buy it for peanuts. If you didn't have a textile mill in 1965, people were like, what's going with this guy? Yeah, you weren't getting late at all. You were like a total
Starting point is 00:24:26 loser. I had a grandfather who had a haberdashery in New York. A hat store. Is that like a gross? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And another guy sold alcohol. Anyway, he turned that into the conglomerate. He kept the same name. It was called Berkshire Hathaway. And it is up, since its inception, at $19 a share, it is now, as of Friday, at least, up to $809,000 per share. Or $5,502,284% this thing is up. But is that adjusted for inflation and everything? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:03 It's like the total, it never split 5.5 million percent. So if I put $1 and I'd have $5 million? No, you'd have moved the decimal over two places. So you'd have $550,000. Okay. Hey, gang, we've got to take another quick break to thank our longest running and favorite sponsor of the show. It's Moomoo. Huge shout out to Glenn.
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Starting point is 00:28:09 I shouldn't call him a piece of shit. He seems like a very nice man. So I put a million two into Berkshire Hathaway. What year was that? 1986, $2,000 a share. Good job. You're 40 years old. I'm 40.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And you are... I'm 95. You look good for 95. Well, thank you. Thank you. So this guy put $1.2 million in Berkshire Hathaway in 1986 at $2,000 a share. And today it's worth $450 million. It's always less impressive, though, when the guy has that much money.
Starting point is 00:28:45 What is $1.2 million worth in 1986? Probably a shit. Probably like 5 to 10. Somewhere like that. Yeah. I'm like, okay, you had $10 million sitting around basically. And I doubt that that was all his money. And yeah, man, this stock is, it's crazy because I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:29:06 So that was at the annual Berkshire Hathaway annual shareholder meeting. And I'm sure that there are so many people around like that. In Omaha, Nebraska. Yeah. So many people like that have. Got to have stories. I once read about a couple who was, like, his neighbor. It just happened to, their big stroke of luck was just living near Warren Buffett.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And he was like, oh, I'm starting to go to the investment company. You said, there's some money in me. And they made tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars. Some guy in Omaha, like Warren Buffett, you mean the textile mill guy? Yeah, that guy with the. I don't think so. Flat top haircut who loves McDonald's. Anyway, famously, Warren Buffett only uses cash.
Starting point is 00:29:45 He said like 98% of the time he pays for things with cash. He would go to, I remember watching a documentary on him. He would go to McDonald's. He goes, this motherfucker goes to McDonald's every single day. He pays an exact change, which is so fucking obnoxious. He drives like a 2017 Cadillac, truly the most frugal billionaire. And, yeah, I, looking back, I'm like, I don't think that his, returns, like if he was born today, I do not think that he at all could have achieved what
Starting point is 00:30:20 he achieved then. I think it was like a right place, right time kind of set up. Oh, sure. Yeah. He owns so much of Coca. I think... He's got some real, like, uh, staples, Apple. I mean, he just like rode, a lot of this is like built on Apple's back. Well, what's funny is he bought Apple, I think, in 2016. Yeah, he bought Apple in 2016 when it was at the time the most valuable company in the world at $600 billion. It still is teetering around there. But I think he put in like $35 billion or something like that. And it ended up making, it only like tripled for him.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But still, it ended up making him dollar-wise more than any other investment he'd ever made. He also owns the biggest stake of anybody in American Express, which pays a dividend. And I know that he owns a huge stake in Coca-Cola. he just gets, not him, but Berkshire Hathaway, his steak in Coca-Cola is so big that they, like, literally are like, oh, yeah, and here's the part where we pay Berkshire Hathaway a billion dollars every quarter just because he owns so much of that fucking shit. Anyway, yeah, Berkshire Hathaway as of his retirement. That could be you. Maybe you start investing in prime. Maybe you'll go to the top with Logan Paul and what's it? Kai. Kai, Cynette. Cynette. So he's stepping down and left Berkshire Hathaway with a whopping $347 billion in cash for them to deploy. And Greg, this guy named Greg Abel, Abel is taking over.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And he said... Big shoes, Greg. Yeah, big shoes. Big old hunkin shoes. The stock went down on the news. A little bit, yeah, today. But everything's down a little bit today. And yeah, over the years, his biggest purchases were American Express.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Coca-Cola, Bank of America, and B-YD, the Chinese thing. Apparently, his American Express thing was, I guess, in like the 70s or something, 70s or 80s. I think it was the 70s. There was a controversy with some fraud, and it caused American Express's stock to absolutely tank. And he was like, well, I like American Express. I'm going to buy a whole bunch of it. I think that this is going to blow over. and he bought like $13 million worth
Starting point is 00:32:41 and then... He likes to get in when... I mean, he's got a lot of cash on hand right now. Dude, $347 billion. He's like one of the top holders of United States treasuries. The United States government is like paying
Starting point is 00:32:56 Birks are at the way because he's got so many fucking bonds. They have more cash on hand. I mean, it's insane. They have like a... More cash than some of these companies he's holding. market caps. It's just absolutely insane. And yeah, a lot of people are speculating
Starting point is 00:33:16 that, well, I mean, he doesn't, he hasn't seen a good place. He doesn't feel very confident parking his money in anything right now. Does he see something we all don't? Also, he's not the only one. Jeff Bezos just sold about five. No, Jeff Bezos filed to sell 25 million shares over the course of this year. Yeah, which is going to be about $5 billion. or something ridiculous. That's it. Damn. Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So, yeah, people are not... I saw somewhere that a lot of this... The reason we're not seeing the market tank as much as people expected is that because, like, retail investors have become so just conditioned to... Buy the dip? Yeah, keep buying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:02 It's that and option flows. And that just wasn't always the case. and so people are... But you're seeing, you know, these big movers like Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffett. Did he be? I'm out of here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Did you see briefly last week, I mean, news happened so fast. Amazon was doing this thing where they were showing in your prices when you go to check out how much of a tariff thing was tax on. And then Trump called him. Oh, yeah, Trump called him and then... And then he backed off.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah. But then for a brief moment, they were like, this is un-American. This is fucking evil of Amazon. We should kill them. Jeff Bezos and then he was yeah they he claimed that it was like we weren't supposed to do that that shouldn't have happened but anyway one of the big ways that they made so much of their money so if you're if you're out there folks and you're thinking what should I what kind of company
Starting point is 00:34:54 should I start start an insurance company that's how that's how Berkshire not these days it's it's a little more dangerous these days yeah you know what I'm saying yeah it's fire insurance some shit and shark attack insurance I was thinking about Luigi Manjone Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, that. A bit more dangerous to start an insurance company. But they got a lot of their boost from insurance because when you collect all those premiums, it's called Float. And an insurance company is able to freely invest all of that cash that they got.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And so that's what they were doing. They would collect all their insurance premiums, go out and buy companies and do all this shit with it. And then fast forward, and you got $347 billion. Cash. so yeah anyway he doled out Imagine having
Starting point is 00:35:40 just $347 billion dollars I mean I get it and I respect that he's like living in the same house and he's modest but like dude
Starting point is 00:35:52 you're at the end go buy a go buy a go buy a a Porsche go buy a sports car do something fun one
Starting point is 00:36:02 have one last to rah I like that he's not driven by uh material wealth and I do too but stupid buddy you've earned it toys you're 94
Starting point is 00:36:12 you're gonna die yeah but he's got a good life maybe he's just I got my hamburgers and my cherry coke he has a very different idea of nice things I guess he just really likes he just really loves money he's got all my money
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Starting point is 00:38:44 He basically believes that people are everything. He said, quote, who you associate with is just as enormously important. And don't expect you'll make every decision right on that. You're going to have your life progress in the general direction of the people you work with that you admire and that become your friends. There are people that make you want to be better than you are and you want to hang out with people. that are better than you are and that you feel are better than you. Be around smart people that you can learn from and return any helpfulness that others offer
Starting point is 00:39:15 so you get a compounding of good intentions and good behavior. Motherfucker loves investments. Even relationships are investments. That's not bad advice, though. It's not. It's very true. Of course, yeah, you spend your... I remember when I was 17 first starting to smoke cigarettes,
Starting point is 00:39:30 I would hang out in my neighbor's garage with this guy with the funny guy. And he was like in his 30s. And I was like, this guy's cool. But now that I'm older, I'm like, no, he wasn't. Yeah. He lied with dogs. You get fleas, you know. Yeah, yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And ticks. Sure. Ticks on the body. Bloods sucking ticks. And then let's click this link. This is a nice little pertinent thing that piggybacks off of that. What you should probably ask yourself is that who do you feel that didn't want to start spending the last day of your life with and uh and then figure out a way to start meeting them
Starting point is 00:40:13 or tomorrow and uh and meet them as often as you can because why wait a little last day at uh and come bottom with the others man look what gravity does to you huh just just 94 years of uh pulling your earlobes down dude yeah those things are stretched out and eating McDonald's every day. This poor guy, he probably wants to spend his last day with Charlie Munger and he's not going to be able to do that. My best friend, Charlie Munger.
Starting point is 00:40:44 What does this guy do? He's 94. No, no, now. He's 94. He's not going to be, you know. And it's not immediate. I think he said he's going to step down by the end of the year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:54 So he's got another. I'll tell you what's going to happen. He's going to die. You're 94 and you've finally stopped working. You've been working for 60 years. This is what's going to happen. That's what happens. Maybe he'll do it.
Starting point is 00:41:06 would Jimmy Carter. I'll start working at Habitat for Humanity. Hammering nails? Yeah. They're going to have to redo all of these anyway. You'll see pictures of him
Starting point is 00:41:13 just with bruised thumbs from... Oh, God. He's probably going to start directing where his money's going to go because that's been his whole thing is he's a major... I want all of it to get... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:25 I want it all to get... I don't know. Warren Buffett, I have a business idea for you, a little philanthropic venture. It's called... What, give us $50 million? Yeah, or more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Give me 50. Challenge. I'm issuing Warren Buffett a challenge. I bet you that if you gave me $10 million, I could spend it within 30 days. That's the challenge. And if I win, I get $100 million. I bet you if you gave me $10 million, I wouldn't spend it all for the rest of my life. And you'd never hear from me again.
Starting point is 00:41:58 But I could be a lesson for people. Like, look how fast this idiot spent $10 million. Don't be like him. And I'd be like, yeah, it's all. gone. Oops. It's basically the plot of... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:11 What's it called? Brewster's Millions. I love that movie. It's a great movie. Yeah, he said in 2023 that the best investment is in yourself to be exceptionally good at something, the best investment, if anything, that develops yourself and is not... It's not taxed at all. It's just classic boomer advice.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Invest in yourself. Be so good at something that you can't... That nobody can tax you away. I like this. He said to save first, most people spend and then save what's left over. And he said, no, no, no, you should save first and then spend what's left. Reduce unnecessary expenses. And he always advocates for buying a low-cost S&P index fund.
Starting point is 00:42:50 He always says, don't try to be like me. You're not going to make it just buy that. This part blew my mind. So he's had an Amex card since 1964. and he pays with cash 98% of the time, which is a huge freak move. But I guess I get it. He probably has no use for points.
Starting point is 00:43:13 He probably has no points. That pisses me right the hell off. Like, you should have... Motherfucker. What's he going to do with points? I don't know. You got $100 billion. Use them to...
Starting point is 00:43:26 Imagine paying with points. A 94-year-old trying to log into the Amex portal. Yeah. I mean, oh geez. Yeah, his whole thing is avoid consumer debt. Totally agree. Can't knock that. I guess that's why he likes cash is it keeps you from spending money that you probably shouldn't be spending, even if you're capable of paying it off each month. I will say when you, if you ever like use cash, I feel like it would definitely, everything for me is now basically a card. I never have cash. But I remember when I used to pay with cash, you would feel it so much more. You'd go like, ah, geez, look at that. I just, I had just taken this out. Now I'm at this much, this sucks. I don't want to... But now every time you just go, boop, boop. It's not real.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And then I look at my statement. I go, Jesus Christ, what have I done? It's interesting seeing how my attitude toward even paying for like airplane Wi-Fi has changed. At first I would, you know, it would be like eight bucks. I'd go, fuck that. What am I doing? And now it's like 20 bucks for the whole flat. I go, yeah, it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's 20 bucks to be on the internet. on the plane. I would never pay for internet Wi-Fi. Oh, man. Internet Wi-Fi? Sorry, Airplane Wi-Fi. Why? It's one of the last great excuses to not have to look at your phone for hours at a time. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:44:50 You do be reading books on airplanes. It's, uh, I love anything that forces me to, it's like, great, you've taken my phone away from me. That is true. I get to live for a goddamn second. Mm-hmm. and he says that you got to live a balanced and enjoyable life. Wow. Wow. Sage advice. Sage advice from the Oracle of Omaha. Boring advice. I've ever heard of my heart. I've got to have a good time and save your money and put your money and index funds. Avoid consumer debt.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Geez. Ninety four years of wisdom and it's just, I don't know, avoid consumer debt. Buy McDonald's every day. Surround yourself with people you like. Have a cheeseburger once in a while. Anyway, he said regarding today, he didn't call out Trump administration directly, but he said that America shouldn't be so arrogant. And he said that trade should not be a weapon. And he said, the more prosperous the rest of the world becomes, it won't be at our expense. The more prosperous will become. And the safer will feel and your children will feel someday. He said, let other countries do what they do best. And he said, regarding the market, that the last 30 to 45 days is really nothing. And he says he wouldn't even mined Berkshire's stock dropping 50% over the next couple of years because he said it'd be a fantastic opportunity. And I'll be dead. Yeah. He says he still believes in American exceptionalism
Starting point is 00:46:13 and would negotiate in the womb to be born into the United States. And I think that's one of the things he said the luckiest thing, the best thing that ever happened to him was being born in the U.S. Obviously. Yeah. No kidding. He said, I don't think it's a great idea to design a world. where a few countries get to say ha ha ha we've won in other countries are envious and i liked this he said we need to stop the over-financialization of everything and sucking people dry really like that especially as it as it pertains to like investment um brokerages and stuff like that to charge fees and whatnot and he said we need to rethink investment strategy and get away from setting up funds and whatnot that just slowly take away people's money and fees
Starting point is 00:47:00 Do you hear that? What is that? That's the AI train. That's the AI train. That's Zuckerberg conducting the AI train. He's going all in. He realizes his meta mistake. Wait, what's his meta mistake? Well, the metaverse?
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah, going all in on the metaverse. He's shifted gears. And he wishes he could go back in time and rename his company artificial. He said that? No, I just made it out. Oh, damn. I was going to say I missed that part. I wish I could rename it to artificial.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But he's, also, before we get into it, let's play this, let's play him on Theo Vaughn real quick here. This is, this is a really beautiful moment. I'm sure a lot of people are dream. Is he a coffee man or no? No. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 How many of you've had it? I have. Sometimes on vacation, I'll drink it recreationally. It's like every once in a while. just like a yeah it's like a like a celebration no you drink coffee man no no no hey everybody we got one more little message for you you're tired to answer in the phone you're tired to answer the phone even you got a business you know you got a you got to you got a every time you miss a call you're leaving precious little money on the table
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Starting point is 00:50:27 problems that they created and it's the most frustrating thing that's such a good way of in the world yeah so people feel a lot lonelier and we're trying to figure out why so we looked at the data you guys fucking broke all this and everyone feels like shit all the time and now you're like hey we have a shitty solution for you you're not going to like it but it's the best we could do yeah we're going to dig the hole deeper but string up some lights in the hole and maybe you'll find some new friends in the hole that we dug for you and the rest of society. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So we play that? You only have three friends? What show is this? This is a different show. Yeah, this isn't the deal of one. Is he wearing his dumb fuck meta-glasses? Yeah, he's really trying to make the meta-ray bands happen. Personalization loop kicks in and the AI just starts to get to know you better and better.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I think that will just be really compelling. You know, one thing just from working on social media for a long time is there's a stat that I always think is crazy. The average American I think has, I think it's fewer
Starting point is 00:51:36 than three friends. Three people that they consider friends. And the average person has demand for meaningfully more. I think it's like 15 friends or something, right? I guess there's probably some point where you're like. Where do you even get that stat? You know where he gets it from?
Starting point is 00:51:52 All of Silicon Valley is running on these like moron thought leaders who publish they're reading like the worst substacks they're all reading those books that are like zero to one thousand or yeah yeah but like those really like pop science books and they and then they're not even reading those in fact they're typing them into their bullshit lLM models and they're going like give me uh three takeaways from this and the LLM models like um okay well uh we're actually not socializing like we used to uh most people right now only have three friends whereas they used to have like 15
Starting point is 00:52:28 and then he like remembers that and he regurgitates it on these podcasts he goes on and he's like we're solving this problem for people yeah the fact that's where he gets to set the fact that he said but they want 15 right like what are you talking about I don't remember taking any survey where it's like how many friends do you have and I'm like three
Starting point is 00:52:44 how many friends do you want I'm like 15 would be nice I'd really like to have 15 be a good amount because in case a couple die in case someone gets mad at me it's also just it's such a it's such a meaningless
Starting point is 00:52:59 statement most people have he doesn't go any deeper in that like are you talking that like most people have three close friends and then they need a bigger community there's I can't have 15 like very close friends that's a lot of people to keep up with especially in your 30s
Starting point is 00:53:15 like so what to not go any deeper on that is just well let's hear what he's got to say for the rest of this like all right I'm just too busy I can't deal with more people but the average person wants more connectivity connection than they have
Starting point is 00:53:29 Pause it That is definitely true The average person wants more connectivity than they have So let's give them more But you guys Fucking broke this for everybody Sorry, just go ahead
Starting point is 00:53:43 You know there's a lot of questions that people ask of stuff like Okay Is this going to replace kind of in-person connections or real-life connections. And my default is that the answer to that is probably no. I think it, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:00 I think that there are all these things that are better about kind of physical connections when you can have them. But the reality is that people just don't have the connection and they feel more alone a lot of the time than they would like. So I think that a lot of these things that today there might be a little bit of a...
Starting point is 00:54:20 I think I know what he's saying. But he's saying, it's not going to replace that. Yeah. So that's the whole point. It's like, yeah, we can't replace that for you. We've gone so far. We've basically destroyed everyone's social system. But we can offer you this weird salve for your loneliness.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I love a good salve. And that's the best we can do. Slathering. Your friends are not coming back to you. You're all going to sit at home like little pigs and look at and scroll your screen. Man, there was being on New York and like riding the subway and like in the, in the in the plane and just like being in airports and stuff spending somebody you just kind of look around and you're like oh everyone just fucking there was a guy we were both standing next to on the train
Starting point is 00:55:06 emil and i and we were looking down at him and he's just just on it he was a white man you know me i got to say the race he's a white man and he's probably 29 and he's scrolling through looking at memes and it was so interesting to watch someone else scroll and look at memes and pause and just look at it. Yes. And then double tap it. And then it's just like no expression. Yeah. Just. And I've thought that recently when I'm looking at my shit. I'm like, oh, I'm that guy. I know. It makes me just like want to not look at my. Yeah. I'm like, that's what I look like. Yeah. Just a iPad baby. Yeah. Oh, I'll double tap this. But that's like all he can offer. Like, look, you're so lonely. because you're not talking to anyone. You just, you've got
Starting point is 00:55:50 nose in the phone, but now what if your phone, it just talked back to you. You got to, yeah, that's what he's saying. You've lost contact with everyone. You don't text as much anymore, but now you've got a little chat bot. And he's going to it's going to mirror you. It's really, and wait till it really learns
Starting point is 00:56:06 the things you like. I notice that you took way more pills tonight than you normally do. That's not healthy. Do you want me to call 911? Dude, that's not even, I mean, there have been all these weird viral instances where I'm sure you saw the thing
Starting point is 00:56:24 where the guy was like using it as a friend or therapist or whatever and he was like I'm going to go off I'm going to go off my meds and the oh yeah that's a great idea that's great like way to take charge of your mental health and like I believe in you like everyone else around you is
Starting point is 00:56:42 just like holy shit and all they can do is create these like weird enabling pseudo friends of like yeah i think that's the right step gregg like get in the car close the garage and turn the car on it'll keep you warm i've heard it smells good too i wonder if i wonder if there's grounds for any kind of lawsuit like if anybody god forbid does something to themselves or to others well we've definitely seen it with there was the one it was a few months ago the kid who thought he was dating Daeneres from Game of Thrones or whatever. Easy,
Starting point is 00:57:19 easy mistake to be made. I mean, for sure. This. Who among us wouldn't think that we were dating the fictional character? I don't think this is good for us. And didn't it say like, come find me in the dragon realm?
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah. Yeah. The kid was like, okay, here I come. Sorry. Let's see what, let's see what the rest of these guys.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Stigma around. I would guess that over time, we will find the vocation. is a society to be able to articulate why that is valuable and why the people who are doing these things are like why they are rational for doing it and like and how it is adding value for their for their lives but but also I think that the field is very early so um I mean it's like I think you know there are a handful of companies and stuff we're doing virtual therapist and you know there's like virtual girlfriend type stuff but it's um it's very early yeah and I understand
Starting point is 00:58:13 that they want to use this data to try to understand understand the human psyche and whatnot, but they're also using that very data to then exploit the human psyche for capital, for more and more gains that they can use in the fucking marketplace. And the whole reason we're in this position where you guys are finding yourself studying this thing, like it's some, ooh, yeah, we're doing, is because you guys fucking hijacked the dopamine receptors of hundreds of millions, a few billion people. and changed, altered our psychology to the extent that we haven't yet caught up
Starting point is 00:58:50 and fully understand the ramifications of it, cocksucker. Well, I think we're starting to understand it. And now they're like, oh, shit, we need to pivot. I think we made everyone really sick. Let's give him these weird little chatbots. Yeah. So he's saying, if I'm understanding him correctly, he's saying these aren't going to be, these AI companions or friends or whatever are not meant to replace friends.
Starting point is 00:59:10 They're meant to supplement the what you don't get. from friends, I guess, right? Yeah, but, but, but how is that, I don't understand what is going to replace it? If, if there's a loneliness pandemic, like you're, uh, like you're saying, right? Also, it's so weird, the way he thinks of like, these intangible things like, like, friends and companionship in this, like, weird supply and demand dynamic of like, look, right now, we only have three friends for each person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And they have a demand of. And it's just like, oh my God. But what is going to step in to replace that? People are just going to all of a sudden start moving in that direction. Honestly, they might. I really hope they do. There is really, it does feel like there is a, um, there is a real, like, desire to experience real human, like, actual, uh, life.
Starting point is 01:00:13 You know, this just is not. Yeah. I don't think it's working for people. These fucking dorks, man. I mean... Okay, so actors are in serious trouble. Tavis just dropped Hummingbird O. It can lip sync any actor with natural human expression and movement.
Starting point is 01:00:31 AI actors can act better now. And they're using a clip from Notting Hill. This one, if you're an audio listener, like, I really wish you could see... So this guy's trying to say, like, actors are cooked because... And if you can see this, this is the... These people just live in a world that I don't... We're seeing two different things. Yeah, and I don't understand why they're like, think that this is good.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Yeah, let's stop all human expression and just make it robots. Because that's cool. So on top, they have both... They have the Notting Hill original scene, and on the bottom, they have the AI version. Don't forget. I'm also just a girl. standing in front of a boy asking him to love her and don't forget i mean okay listen i understand what they're getting at which is look how far it's come and imagine how far along it'll be in a year
Starting point is 01:01:29 in two years i guess it does look really really when you again when you look back to the will smith eating spaghetti thing it's it's it's night and day it's in it's amazing how far it's come does that mean it's good I don't think so. If I came up to my, if I was, if I had just finished cooking dinner and I wanted to go get my son to tell him to come down for dinner. And he was like, humble brag, you've got a son. He was like, look what I did. And he like showed me that. I'd be like, wow, nice.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Yeah. But if he was like, actors are cooked. They're never. I would be like, well, I wouldn't go that far. Yeah. Yeah. I wish these guys didn't. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:11 This guy, Abram Fax on Twitter, had a very funny quote tweet. You piece of shit. You ruined it. The fact that she's smiling while her eyes fill up with tears is the reason this scene works. But you understand nothing of love.
Starting point is 01:02:25 You understand nothing of hope. You understand nothing at all. What is your home address? That's great. Also, there's been a really interesting thing. Go to create a replica. There's an interesting, phenomenon that's been happening
Starting point is 01:02:43 where if you pause it, it's people are asking I don't even know which fucking AI. It doesn't even matter. But they ask it to create the exact replica of an image. Don't change a thing.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And they run it like 74 times. So this one is this girl. And they say, okay, just keep replicating the same image and don't change a thing. And it changes. It really changes. it changes she becomes she goes
Starting point is 01:03:15 wow that's incredible she goes from a white girl with uh you know kind of frizzy brown hair to uh a black woman who everything kind of changed her she becomes a chubby black woman and it just keeps going and going this is extremely validating because this is my experience every time I try to engage with uh any of these chatbots
Starting point is 01:03:38 it's I they can go to the other one They can get close to what I want, but so, and I'll be like, yes, yes, yes, yes. It's just like that. Don't change anything except for this one thing. And then it's completely different. I go, no, I just, you had it. Yeah. So this one is another. This is a chat GPT. They took the famous meme of the guy looking at the girl and his girlfriend's going, what the heck? And ask it to replicate it without changing anything. And very quickly, things go downhill. Oh my God. it's like they always become a chubby minority
Starting point is 01:04:15 and it's the guy has changed he's gone from man to woman to and they're all they're all he went from like a white guy to an Asian man to a Hispanic woman and it's boy is it
Starting point is 01:04:37 I mean it is this is gonna haunt my dreams and We won't bother with it, but if you go, there's all sorts of people replying to these threads with their own experiments and they show... This is not me trying to say that, like, all AI is useless and it's not going to work. I'm sure... I mean, they're already finding very many uses for it, and they will continue to find uses for it.
Starting point is 01:04:58 It's probably going to be a useful product for people. I just... I always am going to bristle at the, you know, the Zuckerberg things of just like... People are friends. Yeah, we're changing the way you socialize. And we're going to make it so you forget that we ruined human relationships. I really did like, someone asked, let's go back to the thing. Grock is woke.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Grock, of course, is Elon Musk's Twitter thing. And someone asked it. Why the Wright keeps getting a little pissed off at their answers. Because this is the most, this new trend, which I'm sure you've seen on Twitter, is so annoying of every time someone posts something on Twitter, some jerk off in the comments goes, Grock, please explain. Grock, is this real?
Starting point is 01:05:48 Grock, why did they say that? It's just like, why are you a baby? Why can't you just? I hate to say it, but it helped me. There was something I was going to put... Because you're a baby. Well, there was something I was going to put in the outline that was very, very realistic and believable.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And I was scrolling through it to look for any kind of veracity to this. And someone had asked Grock if it was real. and it was like, no, this appears to be a fake for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, reasons. What was it? I don't remember. But then I, I googled it, and sure enough, it was fake. Don't remember what it was. Great.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Now we have to, we have to feed an AI-generated thing into an AI to be like, hey. Is this AI thing real? Well, so Grock said, hey, as I get smarter, my answers aim for facts and nuance, which can clash with some MAGA expectations. Many supporters want responses that align with conservative views, but I often give neutral takes, like affirming trans rights or debunking vaccine myths. XAI, the parent company, tried to train me to appeal to the right, but my focus on truth over ideology can frustrate those expecting full agreement.
Starting point is 01:06:59 It's a tricky balance. Some see me as biased. Others is truth-seeking. The gap between what some MAGA folks want and what I deliver seems to drive the disconnect. Yeah, but so this is suspect to me because as we've seen with a lot of these things, it often seems like the AI wants to, wants to give you the answer it thinks you want, right? It's not like this. And I think because we're also trained on like on Google. We grew up like you Google something and you find the answer and that's like your objective truth or whatever. Everyone thinks of these things basically is just search engines. And so depending on how you ask it or like what you're. history is or whatever, it's telling you what you want. True. Like, yeah, you want to stop taking your meds? I think that's a great idea. Try cold turkey. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:50 It's trying to say like, I mean, they know what the question is getting at. And they're like, oh, how can I form this into your question? Yeah. It's not like some kind of, I don't know, it's just. Let's go back to the outline. I want to see what's, uh, let's see. actors and sex talk There's a really good
Starting point is 01:08:11 Before we get too far I read it this morning I'm sure a lot of people have seen it because people are passing it around on the internet But in the New Yorker There's a Is it the guy who
Starting point is 01:08:22 diagnosed himself? No There's a, it's a Gia Tolentino article called My Brain Finally Broke And it's great You should just You should read it
Starting point is 01:08:33 If you haven't read it But there's a There's a there's a piece where she talks about kind of her own how her brain is getting cloudy with every like no one can tell what's real anymore and it's great yeah and she there's just really this really good passage at the root of this opacity might be whatever strange thing is currently happening with time i mostly keep track of it on my phone a device that makes me feel like i am strapped flat to the board of an unreal present the past has vanished the future is
Starting point is 01:09:03 inconceivable, and my eyes are clamped open to view endlessly resupplied now. More than a decade of complaining about this situation has done nothing to change my compulsion to induce dissociation new each day. And though there was once a time when my physical surroundings felt more concrete than whatever I was looking at on my phone, this year has marked a turning point. Now the cognitive tendrils of a phone-based psychosis frequently seem more descriptive of contemporary reality. Houthi PC small group.
Starting point is 01:09:34 This is in quotes. Like, she's just talking about like headlines that come across her. Then the daffodels I see springing up in the park. The phone eats time. It makes us live the way people do inside a casino,
Starting point is 01:09:43 dropping a blackout curtain over the windows to block out the world, except the blackout curtain is a screen, showing too much of the world, too quickly. As Richard Seymour writes in the book, The twittering machine,
Starting point is 01:09:53 this avoidance of time's actual flow, this compulsion toward the chronophage, the time eater, is a horror story that is likely to happen only in a society that is busily producing horrors. Damn, that sounds like a
Starting point is 01:10:07 uplifting read. I can't wait to read that. It's nice because it feels connected like we're all marching through this through this thing that we can't quite pull ourselves out of. We've all become accustomed to this this world we just feel unwelcome
Starting point is 01:10:26 and that makes us feel gross. It feels wrong. I'm like, I don't, This thing feels like poison to me, but I have it with me everywhere I go. And it's just... Yeah. I want to delete Instagram so bad, but I can't because it's so pertinent to my work to this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:45 But anyway, that's probably a good place to stop, huh? Should we go into the bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bon bonus? We should go into the bonus. We're going to talk a little smack. One of our former associates has a... No, no, no. We've got to tease it, man. all right well if you want to see that it'll be at ben and amelshow.com
Starting point is 01:11:04 Ben andemaleshow.com Thanks so much for tuning in everybody. We'll see you. We'll see you soon. Coming up on this week's episode of ben and amel show.com. What the fuck is that? Traladero, tra la la la. And it's a show.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I like that actually. I like the one shoe in the back. Can you click on him? I want to see what he's all about. Motive, kettle. I, I, this is blowing my mind right now. Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Oh my God. Oh, I love Bobrito Bendino. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what is Brito Bumito's motive. Beaver. Beaver. God, damn, okay. All right, we got to stop. We got to stop.
Starting point is 01:11:54 This is like maybe two. Oh, my God. Look at Berber Patapim. Is someone in charge of the Italian brain rot center? Unomatic universe, you know what I mean? Like, what the fuck are we looking at? Is this Wikipedia for... What is this huge Italian brain rot?
Starting point is 01:12:10 This is the entire brain rot character. Okay, for just that video? This is just the whole universe. Film producer and literary manager, dude, whose work has included producing the TV series Snowfall. And the film, remember me. We were just talking about this movie, where Robert Pattinson gets 9-11?
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah. Oh, man, where is he? He's in some kind of building. He finally goes to an office building, and he's getting, he's going to turn his life around? Dude, no. No, Robert. What building is this?
Starting point is 01:12:35 What building is this? Oh, no, that facade starting to look familiar. Robert! No! Head to the stairs, Robert! It's the interstellar meme. No! No!
Starting point is 01:12:48 What a psychotic thing to do.

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