The Ben and Emil Show - MBS 5: We discovered a new fetish

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

In this episode we do a deep dive on a small fetish subculture in the gay community. We even interview one of the guys. You just have to watch. We literally can't describe it in words. To see the majesty of these images uncensored, and for the bonus episodes, sign up at: https://www.benandemilshow.com See our latest episode here: https://youtu.be/fzRaedlDGsg Watch Ben's Taco Bell Taste Test here: https://youtu.be/5wsoc5pieuA This episode (and every episode) was masterfully edited by Dillon Moore. Check him out at https://www.dillonmoore.co and @ dillonmoore on IG Follow us on instagram. @ bencahn and @ emilderosa and @ dillonmoore and @ philorphilip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're talking all about some fetishes. We are? I'm just a normal dude here, like that other fetish guy you came across. And he said, ha, ha, dude. Let's get you flat. He flied me. Oh, no, look. So here's you, Phil, as a coaster.

No. See, this I like. Yeah, that I like when we're together. I said, oh, no, Phil is a coaster. And he said, ha, ha, yeah, coaster, Phil. I put a beer on top of him, so it won't be any doubt about how he should be used. Like my dad, dude! Groups of us, we don't know where it even came from.

We talk amongst ourselves. And, for whatever reason, this is what triggers it. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm welcome to the fifth episode of the Meatball special. I'm your host, Phil Matteries. These are my guests, Emil DeRosa. And what was your name again? Ben Con. Ah, Ben Con.

What can't he do? Nice. Thank you. I appreciate it. like you said it's the first day of summer it's the first day of summer june 20th i've got some i've got some good stuff for you guys already he's trying to commenter the podcast amiel how have you been so far i've been really good i just got back from sonoma actually holy shit it was incredible i got back from new jersey really good

probably just as good ah where'd you get back from nowhere i have i been anywhere no i haven't been anywhere. I have I not seen you guys since the last special? You fucking left. I left immediately after the last special. This is very rare. That was a long time. I know. Okay. How was you went out? We went out that night and then you left. I haven't seen you. Uh, how was, it was great. We went to the bay. This is for book stuff. Yeah. Hell yeah. Sarah's book stuff. We, they did a dinner at Chez Panisse, which is like this institution, Alice Waters' restaurant. I'd never been there. It's incredible. What the hell is Alice Waters?

I know. He's like all in the industry now. You're getting Alice Waters establishment. Come on. I don't know any. Waters for the table, please. I don't know any people in the restaurant industry, man. I know.

She's like, she's probably like 80 years old. She's like the OG. Oh, wow. She cooks like gruel and stuff? It's all gruel. Like oatmeal? The whole gruel. Alice Waters, no chewing necessary.

But it was nice. My brother and his girlfriend got to come. My aunts got to come. Everybody was coming. Everyone came and then we went to Sonoma the next They were doing it They were doing a thing in Sonoma and it was Kev was allowed to come

She had free reign It was incredible How was he in the drive? Oh, he loves it The thing is Sarah put an end to it But he likes to sit on my lap while I drive But she's like you can't do That's too dangerous

My mom's one dog gets insane car sickness And he's always so affable But when he's in a car he goes like this Oh like a guy Against the... Yes, that's what he does. It's very cute. I took multiple...

I couldn't stop. Is it because of the motion? They're like, I just need to fucking be grounded. Maybe they feel a little queasy. I think he likes it. He likes being up in the front. We listened to a couple of audio, but we did Marley and me. Nice.

And we did... Wait, you really listened to Marley? Yeah, and he got pissed. Oh, I didn't know... Who got pissed? Because I didn't know how Old Yeller ends, but he got really mad when that part came around. Why?

Because what happens at the end of Old Yeller? the dog kills him how the fuck I didn't know it was funny Old Yeller I forgot This whole time I thought it was sad That funny is a half Old Yeller like wrestles a bear

Or like fights a bear Multiple bears yeah And it's mostly bear fighting I'm removing How's your What's in, buddy? Fine I

Give me your roses Give me your thorn Lawrence. Give me your butt. I honestly can't remember what I've been doing. Yeah, nobody can. I truly can't recall. I can remember. I went to the beach last week with my brother. That was fun. Okay. I saw your butt. Except he didn't have a leash for his board that I borrowed. So that was a little frustrating. But I was able to handle it even though I haven't been out in a while. Um, uh, but yeah, it was fine. When you were in the water was Nate going, where are we going? What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? That's inside baseball. Wait, I wanted to. Nate knows. We need. We need. We need. We need to get right into this, because the title of this episode is going to be very... It's going to be called The Meal Goes to Sonoma. Provocative. A meal goes to Sonoma. No, no.

We're talking all about... We're talking all about some fetishes. Okay. Interesting you are? This is new to that. Yes, it is. Two-thirds of the pot, but for sure, for sure. No, well, because I had to surprise you guys.

Okay. Yes. So, OG fans of us definitely remember the other previous iteration of the show, wherein I, I commissioned a very horny artist to make art of us. Because there's this certain, I don't know if it's exclusive to the gay community, but it seems like it is. It's an inflation king.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where they blow them up like balloon. No, breeders like it too. I've seen it on like, yeah, it's like deviant art. For some reason, they always, it's like Yoshi and it'll be like really, really fat, but it's inflated. Yeah, this is not necessarily. is really fat. This is like inflated

with air. Like you're fully inflated. But so this, I got a DM. It's hot because it's air. We all know that my Twitter DMs can lead to lead to mayhem. But I got a DM from this guy on Twitter who said, dude, I love the episode when you guys all got turned into balloons. You need to do a show where I flattened you like a

cartoon. Please. I'll make the photos up. That's my kink. And he's got a photo of, I think, is that Aaron Rogers? Is that the guy from, uh, Toby McGuire? That's not Toby McGuire. I think that's a football player. That is a football player. That's a football player, but for the radio listener...

If that ain't totally a liar... It's not. He's rolled up like a... He's rolled up like a sleeping bag. So I just want to give you... Is he okay with us sharing? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so...

You see it? I said, oh my God, yes. Ha-ha. He said, you never seen flattening kink before? It's total opposite of the inflation. Still cartoonish and stuck, but you are 2D. Like the bad dude at the end of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. when he gets steamed rolled flat.

Steam rolled flat. He said, I'm going to sit down and make a real flat photo edit with you this weekend. Here's a quick AI one. So I said, okay, flatten me up, dude. And Emil, please. And he said, I'm just a normal dude here like that other. You know? What I've never had to lead with in my life was I'm just a normal dude here.

But, yeah, he said, I'm just a normal dude here like that other fetish guy you came across, just happen to have this stupid fetish. And I said, we talked a little bit. He's from England. He lives in San Diego. He said, I think it's super cool. And I laughed so much with you guys in that inflation video. I do have that kink also.

I'm pretty open about mine. Some people are super shy. He said, there are many transformation kinks out there where the body changes in some way, like getting turned to stone, melting, shrinking, or growing into a giant, et cetera. All fantastical, impossible in real life. but the imagination of it actually being possible gets people off. Mine is just flattening and inflating, and inflating, like what can happen with tune physics. And he says he loves puffer jackets, too.

Wait, who are the guys in the puffer jacket? I don't know, but maybe we should block out their faces. Yeah, no, no, we're not going to show that. And then he said, well, actually, I mean, his... Dude, what? So he said, he said, this is the photo you should send, and it's him, like, standing with his arms up. So I did. I sent him

The amount of people who have photos of you imposing Just barely needing him So I sent him A photo of me From front and back Just like he asked

And he said Okay I met My friend Adam's apartment When I was dog sitting And he said Ha ha dude Let's get you flat He flat me

Oh no look I got steam rolled Wait but leave it Does that mean he's jacket off to that? I don't think so I didn't even think of that. I didn't even think of that. No, I thought that he was just doing it

because it's like fun art. He literally said, I'm just a normal guy who likes jacking off the flat dudes. Well, check this out, dude. They're scraping me off. Yeah. Scraping me off the pavement there.

It's hard to look at knowing he was coming through. Oh, look. I'm folded over. Oh, what a big punishment. Oh, and there's me just absolutely, oh. Where do you think? And then who flame,

what's the cum shot shot? Yeah, I don't think there is. Probably the shovel one, right? Where he gets him picked up. Or where he's like bent over. He made a meal flat too, but it's not as good. Ooh, I really don't like that.

He just kind of rushed it. Ooh, I really don't like that. But then, so that led me. How do you feel about this? I don't like that he came to my flat body. That led me to another guy. You've been doing so much work in the gym. Yeah.

And yet this guy just flattens you out. To get blown up. To get blown up. And he's flattening me out. Boys, that led me. Months of work. That led me to another place. of this guy Andres

who does custom Dylan what's These people are reaching out to you? No, I reached out to Andres. How'd you? No, I'm willing to be reaching out to these. Okay, I just saw something very strange. I know, just wait.

How do you find Andres? Yes. I think the other guy, flat lax. That's his username, Flatlax. Because he's probably a mod within this world. He sent me, put me on to this guy Andres. Oh, dude, let me put you on the Andres. Yeah. Who does? He's normal. He's normal, but, let's just say. This one is a lot different.

So, um, I'm going to start telling people that whenever I want to get. I'm just a regular guy who likes getting his dick suck. Yeah, I got a, I get this weird king. It's called coming and women. Well, so here's, here's an example of his work. Oh, man, fucking bookmarks just do not work. I swear to God. Okay. What am I looking at? So this is a, this is a, Oh, God. What the fuck is this? The best part. He's still got his stuff.

He still got his stuff. So for the audio listener, this guy has been morphed into a tiny little snail. He's into a tiny, well, for snail sizes, he's quite big. Where his ass is very prominent. So this is shell? Wait, wait, wait, I like the story that goes along with it. Okay, Mr. Mory, since you failed me in your biology class, what better way than to teach me about ecosystems and mollusks by being one yourself now what do i do want some lettuce

are those balls and penis you said snails were hermaphrodite so snails put babies in your butt what the fuck i didn't meet i love that he's losing the threat of his own like it's sort of section then you put babies in your butt don't you weird out um here's one where the hold on what is this got what is andreas's king andreas is king is just it's it's like animorphs or is it like changing people into objects i don't know what to make of this because yeah none of us do for the audio a hundred percent penis hold on let me check my app yep that's 100 percent penis yeah we got it here's a common one he turned this guy into a donkey and again still has his big bulbous ass this one's just weird

uh here's a rolled up one this guy um uh so this is This is, I think in, he flattened up the other guy. Occupation, nurse, infraction, smoking in a public space. Penalty fee, hanged flat at the coast. He's rolled up like a fucking... If you sent this guy in my picture, I'm going to be very upset. I sent him both of your pictures. No.

So here's one of my favorites. If he turned me into a little snail with babies in my butt, I'm going to be furious. I hope I'm one of the babies in your butt. Then you might be a little half. Oh, there's a spider down there. You and Phil thought we were talking tennis. I showed up to a tennis podcast. What the hell is this?

I'm just highlighting. Oh, my God, dude. What is that? Wait, wait, this is, this is, he's turned this guy into a coaster. I like that. Okay. The caption is, my new little fella, as you may notice, you can still breathe. You still alive.

The huge white thing I removed from you was my tea mug. was on top of you because since now on, you'll help me to not damage my table. Can we get this guy a copy editor? I think he's, I think he might be from some English. I think he might be ESL, dude. There you go. All right. Fine. Yeah, you could feel was very hot because you're fully naked, tiny balls out.

Oh, I love that little comma at the end. This one's my favorite. It's very Cormick McCarthy. This one's my. One run on sentence, no punctuation. Look at this one. That is really good. I want to take that fork and take a little bit off of him to eat it.

For the audio listener, you're really just going to have to go to YouTube. But so this is a black guy who has been compressed into a little mound of pudding. A moose almost? It looks like a pudding sort of dessert. Yeah. So the next one is, I don't even know. An elephant. I don't even know what to. I'm speechless at some of these. But this one's finally, before I get on the ones that he made of you, this one's great. He's holding a guy, a full man in his hand, and he's still.

sticking an air compressor up his ass. Who, okay, did these people send him nude photos? I assume so. Like, this guy probably is into this and said, hey, blow me up. That looks like the guy that ate Big Macs every day and supersized me. Do you remember what that guy looks like? Which isn't it so funny. I didn't really understand what people were saying when they said he was faking it.

But did you guys see now that he's an alcoholic? It's so funny. Yeah, because they said like, there's footage of him at the doctor and they're like, I've never seen anyone's liver like this unless they're an alcoholic about to die and he's like, I've been eating a lot of McDonald's. He's like, yeah, that's fucking crazy.

No, it's crazy. It's all this fucking McDonald's, dude, what are you doing after this? Do you see this? I'm gonna need a ride home. Yeah. Yeah. He just died, yeah.

Of like being an alcoholic. So truly rest in peace, but also. Wait, dude, do what? I like how you're just glossing over this photo. Okay, no, the photo is. insane, but I do want to touch him. The internet was roasting him and he died. Like, it was, we were amidst a supersized me revisiting on the internet and then he died. Like, I don't know. Did he go on a really crazy guy doing thing? I think he died of like a broken heart

serosis or some, or cancer. Anyway, so Andres finished, I paid him. Um, how much? I paid him $120. I paid him 65 plus I doubled it for the rush fee because I was like we got to get this going. So here's you Phil as a coaster. No! Brother!

It's funny, he goes, do you have a picture of their naked bodies? And I said, no. Dude, what? So that's Phil as a coaster. And then let's see. That's really upsetting. Oh, good. There's another one. Here's you with a beer under you. Okay, for sure. Do you like that? You filthy little fuck?

I kind of do. Wait, Emile, there's you. Oh, that's not good. There's you. I can't. But it's just a little, you know, it's down there. It's interesting because they inversed our weeners. Here's both of you sitting under some.

See, this I like. Yeah, that's. I like when we're together. Oh, wait. Now here's a meal. Snail, Emil. Check that out. Dude?

He gave me an option. All the work you've been doing. Honestly. You're so. He said, do you? like the eyes like that or I can do oh there's you Phil it looks like the pig shitting on his balls picture too you know the one I'm talking about I forgot I forgot so I got to read you what Andre said so backing up to the coasters Jesus I said oh no Phil is a coaster and he said ha ha yeah

coaster Phil I put a beer on top of him so won't be any doubt about how he should be used If not, people would think is some kind of frisbee with nuts and would play with him. Dude, he's jacking off when he's texting. The guy with the flat and shit has jacked off to me. Now this coaster freak has jacked off to me. With both of you guys, he said, now you can use both of your cute friends to serve your drinks, but be gentle because they are still alive and their skins are still very sensitive. Oh, dude.

The skins are still very sensitive is a very scary center. And now for you guys as the snails in the terrarium, he said, not salty food for them because salt is bad for snails. So I finished these so far. The others are still in process. When he says he finished those, it means, oh,

it's so much more! When he says he finished those, he means he came. I said, if there's any others you think would be good, go for it. So he made a meal into a little ball. Phil is the ball soon.

He got your... So now people know it's me. Okay, wait, almost done. No, dude, that one looks like me. That is not good. Okay, wait, he said, oh, finally he made you into gummy bears. Okay, I really like this. Why is he not doing this to you?

Because I asked him to do it to you. Man, he's even got a little dick on the phone, on the little gummy bear. He's even got a penis on the gummy bear. Man, my guy is thorough. Andres. I want to say, thank you, and I don't mean to kink shame you. God bless you, my man. I truly...

I hope you had a good time. Man, I should have gotten one of these guys. Should I ask him if he's okay to take a call right now or something? I would love to ask him, like... I guess that's kind of it. So we've got one of the guys who flattened us, the guy who flattened us on the phone here. Go ahead and say hi. Hey, how you doing?

I'm doing quite well, thank you. Can we, what should we call you? You can call me, Tom. My name's Tom. Okay, Tom. I'm Ben. And to my left is Phil. And to my other left, left of Phil is, is a meal.

And I surprised them with the flattening stuff. And yeah, we just, we were just kind of guessing what it is about it that's so appealing. So if you could just kind of fill us in, we'd really love to hear. It's weird because, you know, people, there are a lot of people that like, you know, to like different things. You know, some people like items with clothing or roleplay or different kind of stuff. And for whatever reason, there's groups of us. We don't know where it even came from. We talk amongst ourselves.

And for whatever reason, this is what triggers it. And this is, that's what you think about. That's what you fantasize about. And we laugh about it amongst themselves, because we know it's stupid as hell. Interesting. So we know it's ridiculous. We know I'm stupid. But it's, you know, something we, you know, we can't really help or control.

Are you like laughing while you jerk off? Oh, no. You know, like... Wait, Ben, can you ask this question for me? We take it dead seriously when we get into it. But, you know, you know, retrospectively, when you actually reflects on it and look back, you think it is, this is stupid and ridiculous. That pose not clarity. So, Emil, Emil has a question.

So he's saying that he's found this community. He keeps saying we, how, when did he first realize that this was something he wanted to jack off to? Because I wouldn't even have the imagination to put that into fruition. You know what I mean? Did you hear that, Tom? And then once you do, how do you seek it out and then find a community within that? So, you know, I think it's like when you hit puberty and you start to look at things differently. sexual awakening when you go to security in that.

But I know from a young age, whenever I watch, you know, cartoons and stuff, when stuff happened in a cartoon for whatever reason, it intrigued me. Like, you know, people getting flattered or getting blown up. I know you've already looked at that. Yeah. Oh, so that was what I was curious about. So it's cartoon-based. Do you see it in cartoons?

Yeah. Yeah. That's my stuff. Yeah, it's stuff that's not physically possible. You know, it's stuff that can't happen in real life. Tom. And, yeah. Have you ever seen animals on HBO?

No, what's that? Okay, never mind. Just a cartoon, animated show. Yeah. Not a big deal. Oh, okay. So, I know there's a few scenes, you know, like, I don't know if you said a movie, Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Oh, yeah.

At the end of that movie. And I always remember when I was younger, being terrified by that. I know. I mean, I think it scared all of us as kids. Yeah. But for whatever reason, sometimes, like, a... trauma like that can like trip over into a kink later in life and it's weird. So there's some theories on where some of these things develop from, we don't really know.

Tom, is it, um, is it, is it tied to gender at all? Well, do you like flat men and women or is it, do you just like, I mean, I'm only into dudes, so I'm gay. So I'm only into guys and it's funny, this is only really something that's kind of predominantly gay men. Interesting. So I don't know, I don't know how that works out. But yeah, it's kind of like a, um, being immobile, being, you know, feeling silly, having someone be able to do something to you that's, you know, like, usually like you're an object,

kind of, you know, like they could roll you up. So Tom, are you putting yourself in the, what's more predominant? you having fun with someone who's flattened or you yourself being flattened? Good question. I like both. Hot. There are some people out there. I know some people and they're only one role or the other.

Like, they only like to, you know, imagine flattening other guys or they only like to be flattened themselves. What's the most fucked up kind of thing you've seen in this? What would you call it? The Body Transformation Community? Oh my goodness. There's all kinds of, you know, fucked up stuff out there. But is there anything that's been like, okay, that's too far.

for me. I mean, yeah, so, like, my, you know, I'm, I talk of my friends about stuff like this, not my close friends. And, like, when it comes to sexual stuff, I'm very open-minded. A lot of people are, you know, like, you guys are talking to me about this. Yeah. You know, I'm fine of anything that is, you know, sanitary, not painful, and, you know, consent in adult. You know, you know, if two consent in adults want to have fun of each other and it's safe

and it's sanitary, then I say, you know, go for it. Sanitary. You know? I like that. Tom, I have a question, and there's no wrong answer. We won't get mad. Did you jack off to the flat pictures of Ben or me? Well, I've only seen the ones of Ben.

So, I did not out of respect. That's cool. Thank you. I wouldn't have been offended if you had. I mean. If you were, too. Perhaps. Which one would you choose? Well, I never have met you before. I've seen a meal. I sent Ben.

Then, you are a very good looking good guy then. There you go. Thank you, Tom. That's very sweet of you. Case close. It's interesting. You brought up sanitary a couple times. And there is like a unreality to this of flattening someone, but it's very clear. clean, there's hard lines at the edge of it, usually like a cartoon outline or something like that. Is it like this element of hyperbole and like cartoonness? It's real life people and it's like real life backgrounds, but it's based from this very cartoony thing. Are you ever like going more

into the drawn realm or does it have to be like photos or depictions of real people that are flattened? So it's, some people say, like, drawings and cartoonish, they, like, have alter egos. That are flat. Yeah. I just like, it's almost like a crossover of the impossible, you know, like, tune physics in real life. You know, it's impossible to happen in real life. But it's something that you can imagine. You know, you can use your imagination.

You can, you know, have video edits. You can have pictures, made that kind of stuff. And you can imagine it. So it's, yeah, it's. something that is really out there yeah but at the end of the day

it's you know harm it's no harm because some people confuse it and they think that you know you want to get hurt or hurt people

because in reality if you're trying to do this with someone obviously it would kill them but this is yeah but this isn't like any kind of pain

or infliction it's just like you know a tune world imagine you're in a tune world what kind of are there any celebrities that you've ever flattened

Chris O'Donnell Chris O'Donnell From 90s Batman I love this Wait you must be a millennial Huh Yeah okay Yeah that makes sense

So does this extend to the real world at all When you have sexual partners Is there any way this comes into play Or are you just doing normal ass Fucking sex So unmarried And obviously I've shared this With my husband

And And yeah we he's aware of it and plays into it. Very cool. It's a good partner. Yeah. So, yeah, he understands. Interesting.

Damn, I wish that I had, I mean, this is such a spur of the moment thing. I feel like, I feel like I'll, if I have any follow-up questions, I'll be sure to ask you. But this has been very fascinating. I think we've learned that it's most likely some kind of way to take back your own trauma and reposition it in a way that's. I don't know if I'd go that far. feels a little from a five-minute phone call. Also, there was like, it sounds...

It's a power thing. But no, I think it's a fun thing. I think it's this idea. And it also might be something different for everyone. I don't think we can... That's very reductive to talk to one guy for five minutes and be like, well, we solved that. Wait, so, yeah, because I guess I kind of asked this already, but is there anything? Because I've seen Andres.

We, I had Andres transform us into coasters and snows. nails and a little terrarium and just actual balls and a little glob of food. And I'm like, what else is there? What am I not thinking of? Because there's so many different... That's the thing. There's anything you can imagine out there. Someone's thinking about it or they're doing it, I think.

Yeah. You can search almost anything and you can find just about anything. Yeah. Tom, can I ask more a question? Yes, sir. What days do you feel like looking at flat stuff? days do you feel like looking at inflated stuff? Ooh, good question.

Ooh. I mean, I like them both equally. If I want to go to McDonald's, do I want to get a McDonald's? Do I want to get a KFC? Yeah. You ever, you ever flatten your eyes? Amen, brother. Amen.

Has your husband let you flatten him or inflate him? Yes. That's so sweet. Hot. Really hot. Yeah, we love that. We're happy for you. Yeah, we're very happy for you.

Tom, it's been our distinct honor and pleasure to have you on the show and talk to you. Cool. Yeah, I mean, I just like to try and, you know, a few people... Uh-oh. I try to normalize it. Yeah. So, you know, just some people get a normal view that's not skewed. You know, I'm just a normal person. Yeah.

You sound incredibly way more normal than any of us. Yeah, you're very normal. And I mean, I assume that there are thousands of you out there. Probably. Yeah. Very interesting. Okay, well, once again, thank you very much. Thanks, Tom.

I'll let you know when this airs. Okay, cool. All right, and we'll change your voice, too. Okay. Maybe technology dependent. Thank you very much, Tom. Have a good day. Bye.

That was my surprise for you guys, and I'm sure you can understand why I wanted to keep it to myself. No, that was very beautiful. Because I didn't want to spoil it. I didn't want to ruin the surprise. I mean, that is one of the more interesting kinks I've ever. experienced in my life. And I'm happy to be a part of it.

You know, I actually don't mind if someone's coming to me. Coming in you? Coming to me. Coming to you. Of course. Why would you? Better that than they're like trying to find you in sexually assault. I think if they saw a picture of me and they were like, I'm going to come to that.

But it's the like turning me into objects and making me a little snail. That could be like, the horny aspect is the control. of like, I'm going to put you stuff on you. I'm going to put you in a little jar. I'm going to put babies in your butt. I'm going to make sure you don't eat anything salty. I know, which is a good rule of fun for life. I'm putting a beer on you so you know exactly what you are.

Yeah, they can't think I'm a little frisbee with nets. It really does. A little frisbee with little nuts. I don't like how red my penis was. I know. Why was my penis so red, always? It was my penis of red always. God, damn.

It reminds me of, you guys remember, Rule 34? Yes, exactly. That's like a lot of the stuff you see. If it exists, there's porn of it. Yes. It's really, it's really something. It, I, my mind was so blown when I saw just the first inflation stuff. And I thought that that was it. I thought that that was just, there were variations of that. But to know that there's just all kinds of body transformation stuff, just really, I don't, I should read about it because it's, it is fascinating. What is it that's, is it like you said, the control? Like, oh, man, I think one. I think one. One guy said that, that it's like, oh, you're so just, whoa. I think a lot of it is like the idea of it being so unreal is also sexy to them. Oh, baby, your body's unreal. Meaning it's just a piece of paper. She is unreal. Or like, you know, think about piss and stuff like that.

I think it's the grotesque. It's like the idea of things being so out of the norm that is like, exciting to people. Do you think that that's a product of porn and exposure to porn doling the senses and doling what's exciting to people

to the point that they have to always... Or do we think it's natural and cavemen we're like, God, I want to flatten this bitch. They could too. Back then, dude, anything goes. I feel like some Roman Empire type guys

were into like poop stuff. Flattener. That's probably as far as it went. Flatner. Their imaginations couldn't have conceived to the flattening, because it would have involved blood and guts and stuff. And they've never seen who framed Roger Rabbit. True. That wasn't

around until the 80s. You bring a, you bring a blue ray of Roger Rabbit to the Roman Empire? Speaking of Roger Rabbit, those guys are... There's going to be a lot less people around today, tell you that much. I knew the daughter of the guy who voiced Roger Rabbit in that movie briefly, like 10 years ago,

and I met him once, and I remember looking up his YouTube or something and he's got some weird his own theory about what the universe is made up of that and it's just it was his name is Charles something I can't remember isn't he in the movie funny people briefly maybe like he does like a weird there's like a weird cameo of a bunch of comedians and I remember looking him up I could be incorrect I didn't like that movie there's definitely a big party scene there's a bunch of comics and stuff so maybe yeah I think he's in it weirdly

Eminem is a comic yeah he is Is that along the lines of that movie 42 or whatever that came out in like 2006 with all the celebrities and it's just a bunch of a movie 40 something? Yeah. That would that one is bizarre because it's like what sort of debt did Hugh Jackman have to the Farley brothers like Leav Schreiber fucking all these. Helly. There's like 40 people. Yeah. It's crazy. Remember those days when we would get movies like that like Mars attacks when it's just whoa him too, them too? Yeah. her, too. Mars attacks was Jack Nicholson playing like

six different roles. But also incredible. Yeah, he's like a bunch of people anymore though. We don't. We don't. Yeah, we do. We absolutely do. Glenn Powell. Okay, that's one. Glenn Powell is a movie star. Just when you thought that movie stars were dead and gone. Tom, okay, let's let's stop some movie stars. So you agree that

there's a consensus that movie stars are dead. I don't think that movie stars are dead. But you said it like, it's the thing. Sydney, what's her name? Sweeney. The biggest movie star in the world? Sydney, what's her name? She's a movie Star? They're kind of forcing it. Yeah, that's true. That is true. Yeah, we are being forced. Something very weird has happened. We're like, you know it is? What? No Italian guys

anymore. That's not true. Um, Oscar Wilde. Oscar Wilde. Oscar Isaac. Oscar Isaac. Isaac. It doesn't even end in a vowel. He's not one of us. He's not one of us. What is he then? He's tan. Oh, he's just tan? I think he's just a tan guy. I thought he was a Hispanic guy. Boy, the You said Italian. The range on that guy. I mean, when I first saw him in Drive, I was like, damn, that's a guy's Hispanic. And then... Oh, he was good in Drive.

Yeah. He's Guatemalan, Guantameteca. So... But that's the problem. You had guys like De Niro. Yeah, you really don't... Yeah, we don't have movie stars anymore. And everything does...

You know, this guys with big noses. There's also a lot of Jewish actors. True. Hoffman. Hoffman. Changed the game. What's that tall guy? It feels like the... They've gone into a realm of beauty.

Like, think about Timothy Chalemay. That guy is so weird looking. And, like, Tom Hanks couldn't be famous right now, I think. He's just too normal. He's just perfectly normal. But that's why he was so famous because he was able to be fucking Forrest Gump. And he was able to go to castaway and get AIDS. Dude, I just watched White Boy Summer again.

I don't know what that is. It's a song by Chet Hanks. Oh, hell yeah. And it. I love him so much. I love Chad Hanks. And I just... He's really swung back and I really do love him.

It's just crazy. Everything he does, it's so hard to not be like, that is Tom Hanks' kid. Yeah. I don't do that. Did you ever tell the story about there was a party and someone was looking for chat? Oh, yeah.

I don't know if I was those... Okay, okay, forget it, forget it. Oh, yeah, that's right. I mean, it's probably fine. And then Tom Hanks came and pushed a girl in the pool? Isn't that what happened? Kind of, like, by accident. Where's my son?

Yeah. I don't understand. So you know the story now, listeners. Well, he's, I think he's told it before. Basically, what I've heard, I've met people who went to high school with him. And what I've heard is that Tom kept him on a real tight leash. I mean, can you imagine what a nightmare he was in high school? Oh, God.

But so I think Tom turned into a little bit of a nightmare. So they're, what's the brother's name? Colin Hanks, who shares a different mom, has talked about it before. Like, people have asked him about Chet. And he's like, you got to remember when I was growing up, my dad was not Tom Hanks. Yeah. He was, you know, right. He had been on a couple TV shows.

He was like a... Some movies. A working actor. When Chet was a kid, my dad was fucking Tom Hanks. And I think he became very aware of his every man, you know, image and persona. And I think he did not want anyone fucking that up. And so when Chet started becoming... And then he's got this little gangster kid.

Well, I think it was also... I think it was a reaction to his... Right. Overbearing father. And so any rebellious teenager then wants to push back even more. And so, yeah, there are things where, like, there's a story I heard about some end-of-the-year party. It's the summer and someone's parents are away. And people are, like, smoking a joint outside and just a black SUV rolls.

up and the back window rolls down and it's Tom Hanks and he's just like, where's Chet? And then they're like, he's not here and he really wasn't there. And then he's like, I know he's at this party and he literally like storms in and is bugging out and being like, where the fuck is Chet? And apparently he blows by someone and pushes some girl in the pool by. And just like in late night dad clothes too, like some sort of weird boat shoes, just like a little tired. There was a, there was a woman, I think the same woman who accused Bill Clinton of moniker. Like, no, it wasn't. She says that Tom Hanks, like, repeatedly molested her when she was a kid because he's one of those, he's one of the main adrenachrome guys. Yeah. Well, that's just

what I'm just saying. Oh, that's like QAnon shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know, but it's confusing from like a real anecdotal story to Ben going like, okay, I'll take. the baton here. Wait, speaking of which... Truly besmirch the man. Also, there's, it's so funny to be like she's a Bill Clinton accuser. There are so many, like, real stories

about Bill Clinton. Do you believe that that one kid is, is his son? I don't even know what you're talking about. He's got like a... You didn't hear about this? I didn't hear. I think you're either half black or half Puerto Rican,

but he's like, I am Bill Clinton's son. He had sex with my mom 25 years ago, and he's got like side-by-side photos and he does look like him. I believe him. I believe that. The kid? Yeah.

You know who did that the right way? Arnold Schwarzening. Yeah. Yep. He just was like, you know what? Okay, you're my son and now he body builds. Dude, I know some people that were in college with the son when that all came out. Which one?

The bodybuilding son with a Latina maid. Yeah. I'm a bodybuilding son with a Latina maid. I'm a bodybuilding son with a Latina maid. I mean, what a dream come true, Latina made with the commoner? Did you want to go to Richard Linklater next? Wait, wait, wait, no, we got to talk. We got to, we got to give a quick RIP to Donald Sutherland who just died.

I know, rest of peace. I didn't know how to that guy was, uh, yeah, man, I, I first think of him in backdraft. You never saw it. You never saw backdraft? Nope. Oh, shit. I think of him in, uh... He plays a pyro, like a true pyro.

Hunger games. Really? damn yeah he died of being old to death yeah he died he was old to death kefer sutherland kind of weirds me out though he seems like one of those actors who's like he's got a bad temper he's just a drunk he reminds me of um dennis hopper he's got dennis hopper vibes where it's very self-important and like i'm a rebel and and also and it's like okay you can have getting drunk i got drunk for the first time in in close to five months in sonoma damn hell yeah we're back wine drunk too.

And yeah, and I was worried. I was like, God, I'm going to get drunk too quickly or whatever. Pull a key for Sutherland. You still got it. I still got it. Four, like four nights and around, just, you're probably just chopping it up with them. Well, they don't, they don't give you a second to breathe. I, like, I have not been to a winery in a long time.

And it's like, they're like, drinking it. And then just five minutes later, they're like, here's our. You're supposed to spit it out, dude. No, no, it wasn't that kind of thing. It wasn't that kind of thing. We were sitting down to eat, and they just kind of kept. kept pouring and pouring. Damn.

So it's a meal with a tasting, a wine tasting. No, it was a meal with Sarah. Yo! Really good. Yo! Hey, by the way, speaking of Kiefer Sutherland, though, I just, this doesn't fucking matter. I don't know why it's coming out of my mouth.

Probably because of the Celsius. It better be good. The connection, just so you know, Kiefer Sutherland, 24, has to do with the White House. I watched White House down the other night because I just, sometimes I like to turn on a piece of shit garbage movie. No, they're good. Yes, thank you. It's Jamie Fox. Jamie Fox. James Woods is the bad guy. And who's the other, what's the white guy who played the stripper? Where might a

two, one, two. Chatham. Chatham. Channing Tatum. Channing Tatum. Jamie Fox is the president. Channing Tatum. Is that a real name? That's his real name? Yeah, it's his name. Channing. I haven't seen that guy a while. I love that. His parents are like, okay, Tatum, kind of a weird last name. Let's Really stick the landing with the first. And then they're like Channing. I just saw that he named him after a director. Oh, okay. Some sort of directors lost me.

Anyway, let's see. What else we got here? Justin Timberlake had gotten deleted or whatever. Deleted. Deleted. That sounds like a kink. Yeah, it does. No, honestly.

There's a blinking cursor. That's kind of hot, like copy and pasting, and then you can control Xon. I'm going to delete you. We barely touched on it the other day, but then I saw. what came out is what he said to the cop. Oh, like, this is going to fuck up the world tour. The cop was like, what tour? He goes to the world tour.

Yeah. That's really funny. He was too young, the cop, like he had no idea who he was. That's fucked up, man. Well, this is going to ruin the tour. I know. Someone tweeted, like, I'm going to say that every time I have a, like, something bad happens, like, well, this is going to ruin the door.

The other thing I had here was, uh, well, he's just blowing through it. He's like a fucking, well, because we put a lot on here. You got a good amount of stuff. I had talked about, because I don't really give it flying rat's ass about, what are you doing? I'm practicing volleys for later. Hey, if anyone's around me and Emilio in one hour, it's June 20th. We're going to play tennis up in Altadena, California. Oh, you guys are playing tennis after this?

What do you think? What do you think we're going to do after this, dude? Play tennis. Did you watch Roland Garos? Of course. Of course. I had a bad link. so I was in and out of it.

Alvarez, right? Alcaraz. Fuck. But Wimbledon is just around the corner. And to think, Wimbledon's just around the corner. And while you were just still writing the high from Roland Garros, Wimbledon is just around the corner. There's actually a great book. I'm reading it right now.

It's called The Circuit. Ben is so pissed. He took about 20 minutes to show me a porn he made of myself, but I can't talk about one Dennis tournament. He's like... I did make porn. He looked over at me like he was going to kill me. I really do like it.

But there's a great... It follows the 2017 tennis tour, and it's so fun. When did this tennis obsession start with you guys? It feels like it was pickleball, and then all of a sudden you're both just like, no, tennis is it. We just love tennis. He's just mad because he doesn't know how to play. You're just mad because we're going to beat your ass on the court later. Yeah, we're all playing.

Don't fly me. I'm looking at you too, dude. I'll see you out there. Can I referee? I'll just make up rules. They're actually umps. They're umps. They're umps.

I actually didn't know that. Okay, Phil, what did you want to talk about? I wanted to talk about, um, he gets so pissed. Richard Linklater. I'm just thinking about the viewer and the listener who when you guys are like,

did you watch Wimbledon? It's like, I would be lost. Maybe some people like it. Talk about tennis more. He wore the wig because he's in Dea. We're doing the challenges for the kids. Just for the kids.

Oh, yeah, okay. We're dressed as the tennis. He's the Zendaya. We're going to double team him. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. We're doing it for the kids. Do you think they, I feel tower?

We're doing it for the kids. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. But we're doing it for the kids because the kids are talking about it. You think I wanted to dress up like this? Yes.

Of course I did. It looks like it breathes real well. It's really nice. It's very comfortable. What were you going to tell me, Phil? What were you going to tell me, Phil? What are you going to jump in? Why are you jumping down my throat?

No, because a minute ago, you said, You're able to just jump in with Bill Clinton. He's a pedophile. As soon as we start segueing some natural connections, Richard Linklater, I don't know, I got some fucking links. He's been blowing up because he's been interviewing for Hitman starring Glenn Powell,

and he's been saying some really nice things. I didn't see it. I did. Yeah, I watched it. Is it fun? It's fun enough. What do you rate it? It's not like classic Linklater.

Rated at a 20. But what is classic Linklater? Because he is a fucking freak. That's true. That's actually a great point. Dylan's dying. He wants to chime in. Wait,

what is Richard Linklater done other than... Dazed and confused. This is like really big movie. Dazed and confused. Started off with Slacker, this really meandering sort of Austin, Texas indie movie. Then he did the before trilogy

before midnight before sunrise. So beautiful. Anyone should watch that for just a look at relationship. It's so nice. So nice. But then he's also done a school of...

he's bad news bears maybe i think so and then boyhood yes boyhood which is also a very cool i think he uh waking life waking life right a rotoscoped animated philosophical thing the guy just kind of was that with uh robert downy junior no that was like with a bunch of different actually alex jones was in that weirdly oh because he's in austin yeah yeah yeah uh i know yeah have you ever seen the old footage of Alex Jones where he's like yeah kind of just a normal he looks like a real I used to listen to him back then in like 2006 no there's like stuff of him from like the 90s where he's just like going around Austin oh yeah sure it's so yeah I mean in that movie it's not Alex Jones now it's like more uh politically theorist based anyway he had this really good

quote that I liked that and I think you both probably agree with the quote tweet of is a New York Post article. Grownups surpass preschoolers as the biggest toys consumers. That makes sense. Most important age group and it's a guy playing with funco pops and shit like that.

Us as millennials, we grew up with, we were like the peak toy. My gut reaction is I don't like adults with toys. Yep, exactly. And Linklater said, now I think the message society's sending is just stay 13 years old forever,

maybe 12 years old. When I was a kid, kids were neglected. They didn't make movies for us. You watch whatever's out there. and good luck. Now, every now and then there was a kids movie, but the whole culture wasn't bending to kids anymore than parents were bending to kids. They had an ad at 10 o'clock.

It's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your kids are? It was a real thing all over a country because, oh yeah, the kids. I don't know where they are. So they didn't care. They didn't cater to kids. And now it's all about the kids and we overprotect them and we're going to make movies. We're just going to reduce the entire culture and mentality to their level. And guess what? You don't have to grow up either.

Just stay a kid forever, play with toys, read comic books, never mature. Don't even have sex while you're at it and good luck i don't know whoa i think it like really taps into shit we always talk about of loneliness of why does jenzy not party and go out and dance and like exist as we had and even more than that like fucking look at tasting confused so he's saying it was a mistake to cater everything to kids yeah and i think the market followed that baby adults yes we're like for the past 10 20 years they realized yeah truly and ben loves it I love what, which part?

I can't wait to go home and play with connects. No, man, I don't even have shit in my house because I just don't like to dust things. I'm that stupid. I remember getting rid of all my little model cars because I was like, what is this for? Who sees this but me? That is really beautiful.

I was in like, and strange. I was in like eighth grade. And I was like, all this stuff does is exist for me to dust every couple weeks. And so I just put it all in boxes and never took it out again. I think I say it every episode, but you constantly surprise me. You really do. It's very beautiful.

Was I wrong? No, not at all. But it's just a way of looking at things. Like, I'm going to see all that shit later and go, who is this for, but for me? Who's going to see this but me? Who's going to see this but me? It exists for me to dust every two weeks. I will give it to myself.

That was a very poignant thought to have as an eighth grader. Just like, what is the point? and um but then also as an adult when i come over to people's houses who have a bunch of shit i'm like oh this is fun this is full of personality and it reflects who you are yes and it reinforces your creative spirit and i didn't realize at the time but that stupid little dipshit eighth grade mindset of like well what's the point it's like the point is what do you want just blank walls blank walls you little you little idiot no it's good to have vibrancy around you and it's yeah engaged by it's also

so nice for people to come over and start conversations with you like that's why it's nice having books yeah you put a big ass book down there you know like oh my god I love this book damn look at that thing there's gotta be a thousand pages in there

I'm going to my great aunt's house this weekend and she's so great about her she's awesome for one but she lives in Northridge she's awesome for one and her home is it's been featured in countless like interior design magazines because she's like an interior designer and she collects

dolls and she collects all sorts of shit so you walk in and it's just like it's a it's probably her nightmare to have like a bunch of little kids running around like used to be um but yeah you get to go there and play like adults own more toys than kids yeah they finally they outgrew preschoolers as the number one toy market sickos truly I think a lot of it I wonder what the comparison is with digital shit though because like I bet they're watching they're on track to watch way more ads and whatnot than we ever will

kids yeah that's true the greatest toy ever is the phone in the iPad so honestly I think like actual tangible shit probably overall has gone down since the only toy I need you meet both brother and I love that we've been playing tennis

our whole lives dang man I should get back in the building model cars yeah get back in to see you forgot about you got rid of your model cars and you forgot about it well because even like building model cars i've thinking about it recently i'm like well what's the point i just sit around and kill time and like that's what life is baby paint little pieces of plastic i could be doing something else like reading a book or but that's like you could say that about you could do any activity and be like i could be doing anything else right that's true as long as you have joy

except surfing i'll do that for as long as i can pee in my wetsuit there you go baby i just got a new A wetsuit. Hell yeah. Yeah. Two new wetsuits. A winter one and a summer. Can I read another lengthy Richard Lankley?

Is it this one? It's the next one. Yeah. Anyway, I just like this. It sort of touches on last episode. Also, I want to say regarding last episode, my manager and agent aren't succubuses. They heard that and they were really offended.

Wait, are you serious? Yeah. So are people, someone at our thing. And also, I'll find you. You snitch. Who ever snitched to our thing? What are you talking about? I think watched it.

sent it to um my manager i find that every time every time i talk about something it gets sent to someone somehow and it's it's so annoying it's uh i've done it in the bonus and just it's end up clipped and then i'll see a friend and they'll be like oh my god so-and-so said they heard you and i'm like i didn't i didn't talk shit did i because i no i did i love my manager and my people were like what the hell and i said it in jest okay i love you guys they're my close friends well i've been with them for 10 years. Drew, if you're out there, I should call him. I haven't talked to him in a few months, but... Oh, it sounds

like your whole shit's going good. Read the quote. Here's the quote from Linklater. It's just about life and how we always talk about early 20s and all that sort of shit. Linklater said, when you were asking, it's a point important question. What's your relationship now to work back then? I can't keep up over here. I can't see the computer. You don't need to see it. He's got to see it a little slower

so I can hear it. What's your relationship now to the work back then. Are you passionate? I had to really think about that. My analysis of that is you're a different person with different needs. A lot of that is based on confidence. When you're starting out in an art form or anything in life, you have confidence because you don't have experience. And you can only get confidence through experience. But you have to be pretty confident to make a film. So the only way you counterbalance that lack of experience and confidence is absolute passion, fanatical, spirit. and I've had this conversation over the years with my filmmaker friends is, am I as passionate as I was in my 20s? Would I risk my whole life if my best friend or my net or my negative was

drowning? Which do I save? The 20-something self goes, I'm saving my film. Now, now it's not the answer. I'm not ashamed to say that because all passion doesn't go away. It disperses a little healthfully. Healthfully, I'm passionate about more things in the world. They care about more things. And that serves me. The most fascinating relationship we all have to our ourselves is at different times in our lives. You look back and it's like, I'm not as passionate as I was at 25. Thank God. That person was very insecure, very unkind. You're better than that now, hopefully. So I think it's like, what situation is he in where his friend and his film are both drowning? What did they take it out on a boat? Jesus Christ. What was it? What were they developing

it on Martha's Vineyard? Yeah. Get a ride out the boat or Catalina Island. He's Edding Bay is in his I know, just truly, hold on one second. Tell the friend to grab the film and then grab both of them. You're both in the water. Just grab the film. Vote on the film. There was room for both of them. Anyway, that is really, that is really beautiful.

Yeah, when you're in your early 20s, late teens, early 20s, it's like you felt like you could you had all, you had all the time in the world to do, to pursue whatever. But now for some reason as you get older, it's like, well, I got to work. Yeah. If I play tennis, I'll be like, I could be reading a book. Dude, yes. Honestly, I have a lot of, I have a lot of like, I'll look back and I'm like, dude, I was a maniac when I was 20 and I lost it. And I'll kick myself because I'll be like, why can't I work as hard as I used to work? But it is that nice recognition of like, oh, but I do have a better relationship with people and I do have more hobbies now and myself and I take care of myself better. able to, like, spread out to be a more worldly grown-up person.

So I think allowing yourself a little bit of that grace was a very important thing. Oh, my God. I fucking love Richard Linklater. Yeah, but all the things fueling you are not, like, it's fuel, but it's not necessarily the best fuel. It's like, I mean, it's just like anxiety and just like so much fear. And then you're like, I mean. Think about all of college.

We're like, I'm going to fucking die. Oh, God, don't remind me. It's so dark. Dude, I'm thinking about the days when I was taking Vyvance. Well, that's... Oh, right. Yes. And so much of my 20s when I had this drive was also weird amphetamines on top of them.

And booze. It was like... It was all like fear and loathing and like... Dude, I would get like some kind of amphetamine sundowner syndrome because I'd wake up late because I was up late the previous night because I couldn't sleep from taking Vivance. I would take it at like 10.30. It would hit by like 1130. I'd be the smartest, most capable, aspirational, fucking, oh my God, I can't wait.

And I'd ride my bike to school and just be, ugh, go to class and just be paying attention. And, like, getting pissed when anybody would, like, talk or eat in class. Shut up. Trying to listen. And then crazy, crazy horny walking through campus. Just like Cal State Long Beach, the women outnumbered the men like three to one. And it's a very, very, I think like 30,000 people go to Cal State Long Beach. And I'd be walking to and from class just like, I truly probably was muttering under my breath.

Just like, Jesus fucking cry. And then I'd get home. Thank God. Get home and like probably try to jerk off. It probably took an hour. Yeah. And because your dick is just like. Yeah.

And then for the rest of the night, anger and impatience. And just, just the most negative, just, you pissed off at your whole family. Why the fuck do I still live at home? Like, what the fuck? I'm a loser. And what the, it's just. Well, it's that like, it's also like Coke, like the 3 a.m. era where it's like, everyone's like weird about the bags all the sudden.

It's because you get fucking sundowned and all wrought out from your nerves getting fried. Thank God I never got in a Coke. Yeah. My landlord came to show my apartment the other day and I had one of them, I had a bag of ketamine. Where are you going? I'm thinking about moving, but... Where are the cross streets? What are the cross streets?

I'm not saying, dude. Fine. He's also been shutting off my water intermittently, which is really annoying, because he just... He just... He just... He just... He just moved this... It was like shower in time.

Fuck it. It screwed me yesterday because he shut it off from like 10 to 1, and I woke up late, because yesterday was a holiday and I could not go to the bathroom. Nice. That was very fun. That's cool. No, that wasn't cool. Really good.

He moved this girl in below me and she's got a major problem with the bathroom? With the bathtub. So he's had to like take out the wall multiple times, patch it up and like, it's really fucking annoying. Anyway, it is nice seeing these guys get old though and guys. Spousing wisdom. Well, it's just very funny because these were people that. I was

they were like doing the thing in their 20s when I was younger and being like fuck that's what cool is I mean I was watching I watched Dasing Confused when I was in like eighth grade It was like a high school DVD for me greatest movie in the world

and so yeah as I'm becoming more leaving that fucking freak period of my life these guys are like it's okay to mellow out and be yeah now I'm a white house down type of guy now. Yeah.

They made like five of those, man. London has fallen, White House down. I enjoyed that sort of stuff, too. Like, truly when I'm home, kind of, that's what I watch. I love the lines where you can tell it was for the movie-going audience. Like, there's a line where Jamie Fox. Someone's got to bring this White House down. No, not quite.

Maggie Gyllenhaal is in it, which really sucks. It bums me out for her. Why? Because it's such a bad movie. And she's like a serious actress. And she's got to be doing the like, Sir, I'm the head of the CIA. I'm ordering you to save the president.

I feel it's always weird. I do it sometimes. Exactly. I do it sometimes too where I'm like, oh, I can't believe shit. It's like, she's got a great career. She probably got paid a truckload of money for that. And like, yeah, it was probably not that difficult.

But there's a line, Jamie Foxx as president, when it's like, okay, shit's hitting the fan. I've got a, he. runs into his bedroom and he's in there with uh chaining tatum and he's like i got to change my shoes so he he uh he takes off his shoes and the camera goes up i think this was the gerard butler movie there's that one is a different version of this movie it's like part of the part of the series universe yeah the the blank down universe but uh uh you see all the dress shoes and then there they are the air force ones oh my god and he puts on the jordan's and then there's a scene where

He's getting tackled by one of the bad guys. And Channing Tatum saves him. And then... Is anyone else wondering how long? No, no. The guy... Sorry, the guy's pulling on Jamie Fox. And Jamie Fox kicks him and he goes,

get your hands off my Jordans! Damn. And it's like, that's such a movie theater. Jamie Fox is the president? He's the president, yeah. It's interesting because he's black. Why? Because we had already had Obama by then.

I don't think I was alive. I think that was before my time. Wait, shit. Oh, man. Were you going to explain to us another movie? No, no, no, no. I thought it was really sweet watching him get so excited about it. No, speaking of Maggie Gyllenhaal, her husband.

It's funny because I brought up like a major tennis tournament. And he was like, I'm going to blow my brains out if you don't stop talking. And then he was like, I'm going to explain the plot of a bad movie. I didn't explain a plot. He was like, I swear all. fucking scream if you don't stop talking about Roland Garros right now. Wait, what do you guys? Let talk about Olympus

has fallen. What do you guys? Oh, thank you. That's the other one. No, I won't listen to it. What do you guys think about Maggie Gyllenhaal's husband? I think it's very cool. I think he's one of the greatest actors. He weirds me out, man. He weirds me out. I think you see him in a movie and he knows he's going to fucking get pissed at someone. I know it's either going to be a really... Yeah, he really is.

He's scary. Yeah, he is scary. Sar's guard or Scars guard? I think it's, is it. Dylan know. Scarsguard? It's not SARS? I like that they live in New York. I think it's Peter Sarzgard. Alexander Scars guard. It's SARS guard. Yeah. Yeah. Cover your mouth up like he's 53. He played the bad guy in the Green Lantern. That's not a good movie. And I'll say it. Anyway, so the clay season ended with Roland Garros and it was honestly a real thrill. Was this his first clay win? No, no. His first clay major. major yeah and um and i'm i'm telling you really honkshoeing yeah i was talking it's gonna be

the the grass season's gonna be a real thrill how do we feel about wimbledon when is wimbledon wimbledon's gonna start july first and it's gonna go to the 14th and um hopefully our tournament going we won't name it but are you playing have you been playing yes i played um uh i won my first match and uh it was very funny i was explaining it to him but uh i got challenged recently and then someone withdrew it before i challenge you sir it's great you get a dub challenge you to a tennis oh did i get a win for that yeah yeah incredible i've had to i guess they got scared i've been away for a month so i had to leave it and you get dropped down like five things oh no what's your tennis ranking i'm about a two a two's no not your hotness dude the

tennis ranking i saw a tic-tok the other day because since we've been talking about it my phone has been listening and showing me a lot more and i will stop and watch but someone was showing an analysis between Djokovic and Norak or whatever He's doing it. Jokevich and Norak? I don't know, man. They're fucking two guys, all right?

And the one, the analyst is saying, oh, he's doing the classic and it pissed me off. He goes, he's doing the classic like Swiss man play setup. And I was like, there's entire setups. There's like back and forth. There's names for some of these things.

There's going to be a lot of, I didn't know that. There's a professional sport. You think they're all just like bang it back at each other and hope for the best. It was like, it was a full on, it's, there's a word for it. It's called like the Swiss man or something. Yeah, they've all kinds of, underhanded, underhanded a couple times to keep it on the other guys' backhand or something. Yeah, they have all kinds of strategy.

To me, that's fucked up. Serve and volley. I just want you to know, to me that's fucked up. Because that's an entire new, my brain's understanding of tennis was, yeah, it's a couple guys, a couple girls. They kick in the ball back and forth. You hit the net, that's a no, no. but there's the fact that there's all kinds of like other shit involved is then there's a whole world outside of your existence it makes me feel like a child it makes me feel like a baby it's like when you go

to a new city like you walk around chicago and you're like you guys have just been doing this the whole time yeah you guys have just been here that happens to me when i go to a when i go to a different country and um i don't know it just kind of blows my mind seeing like an entire country and i'm like i can't quite put my finger on it right it's like you guys all are the same, but you guys do things slightly differently. Yeah. Just really... Not the Japanese, man. They do it way different. True. We've been

there. Lord knows we've been there. I'm so glad we didn't experience racism there. I did. Oh, no, I did racism. It's funny. I think it's like a... I had a friend who say like, oh, isn't it really racist there? Because he had gone too. And I was like,

no, I didn't feel... And he was like, people will kind of like point at West and stuff and I was like, oh, I guess I did that. And I was like, but I didn't feel like, I think sometimes, he was a white guy. I think sometimes white guys like to take any opportunity to be like, I think I was maybe, I think I was maybe marginalized there. Yeah. You also got to keep in mind, we were four large men too. So no one's really going to start shit. And we were all smoking too. And the whole time we had stogies in our mouth, man. Blast and darts. Blast and darts. everyone should feel this

you remember two beers in meals pulls out a dart everyone should feel this the victimization the victimization card reminds me of that that right wing girl

I don't even I guess we can wrap with this is the one that said the N word yeah yeah don't even play it why

I know go ahead is she's just so wait okay so now she's oh no that is the one school like the weird theater kids

and the anime people and, ugh. Anime? What is she talking about? This is Revenge of the Nerd. So she posted a video. She was cooking, right? Yeah.

And she's totally an industry thing. Casually says the N-Wing. Yeah, she said, I don't know something about like broke ass. Yeah. And then people got mad at her. So now she's saying everybody's just mad because they're theater kids. You know who I'm talking about. The people we didn't hang out with.

So they've grown up now. And they're the ones making the laws. They're the Mark Zuckerbergs. They're the Fauci's of the world of fucking nerds. Those fucking dorks that never got late in high school, and they've got a major chip on their shoulder against the normies. That's why you see all these fat-ass fucks making laws. Oh, you can be obese and anorexic. Okay, sure.

They're the ones inventing clown world. They're the ones in media. Man, the logic is like sprinking. You wonder why actors are so politically leftist? Oh, right. It's because they're loser theater kids. They're the theater kids who grew up. And now they're telling me and you what to think.

They're telling me and you what to think. to do and they're making the laws in this country. Well, it's time to stand the fuck up and stop being scared. Like, why are we scared of these people? They were massive losers. First of all, she's a six at best, so I don't know what

click she was rocking with. But also, the way everything is politicized now, it's like if you were cool in high school, like, that means you're a Republican. And like, these are just dumb liberals who didn't have friends. And that's why

they're like this. It's so fucking stupid. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was cool in high school and now I'm racist. You were cool in high school? Yeah. Don't cut that please. I'm sorry. I was so good good the whole time. I just wanted to flip it somehow. I was cool in high school and now I'm a Republican. Didn't hit the same. Do you want that in there too? No. No. Well, it's toward the end. here till we get it right nobody's watching anymore i was cool in high school and now i'm gay did all the theater kids at your guys's high school like suck and fuck each other is that just universal i don't know i know the band kids actually did the theater kids that went on band trips were kinky yeah the the the theater kids at my school were very very horny what's they all

we didn't have like a big theater contingency i don't think yeah because you were new jersey yeah and also we were popular it was lacrosse We weren't even allowed to play tennis in high school. Oh, I mean, yeah, it was like... We've really come... We've linked later to ourselves. We've accepted that this is an okay thing to play. If we played it in high school, you'd be called a girl and other things.

All right, let's wrap it up. We're going to go into the bonus. We're going to be talking about 9-11. Can I promote some shit? No one's watching. I'm going to as well save it. No, promo. Push money album coming out this week with 628.

Please give it a listen. Oh, and we're going to have a flatlacks on in the bonus. We're going to interview him. Sorry. Hushmoney full-length album spent like a lot of time on it. So before you interrupt me with a flattening porno guy, expect about like two years making this album. I'm very proud of it.

Thank you for listening to the tracks. We're doing the L.A. show, 720 in L.A. More info coming soon. Oh, that's going to be fun. I can't wait for that. Yeah, it's going to be really. really sick. How many tracks?

Ten? Ten tracks. Full length album. Honestly, really good. I'm very proud of it. It's one of my finest creative endeavors and was a joy to make. We're coming up next. Flatlax.

We're going to talk to a... We're going to be talking to the horny guy who makes people flat. We're going to be talking to the horny guy who makes people flat. We're going to be giving away concert tickets for next week's bash at the bay. So we'll be sure to... Why didn't he promo a hundred? Much money right there. It was so fucking close.

I'm not kidding. I have been manic for the last like 72 hours. Good. Let's keep it going, baby. Let's keep it going. I love it. Do I look as manic as I feel? Give us a promo for hush money.

Bro, you talked about Olympus is down for 15 minutes. We know your manic, my guy. I've got to have to correct you there. It was White House down. It was White House down. But also be sure to stay tuned. We're going to give it away concert tickets to Hush, buddy, because they're going to be coming with the new album coming out next week.

It's a full-length album. So be sure to stick around for that. But you'll be listening again because caller number 10097 is going to be getting free tickets to that. And Bash with the Bay. All right. Don't forget about the Bash of the Bay.

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