The Ben and Emil Show - PP 16: It Finally Happened.

Episode Date: October 5, 2023

MUCH TO DISCUSS. Dianne Feinstein is finally dead. The WGA strike is over, but things might be beginning to shift at the streamers. Can they survive or will they have to consolidate? We pore over the details of the new deal so you don't have to. It's interesting stuff! We also talk about NAKED ATTRACTION, the UK import that's already number one on HBO (we aren't calling it MAX, sorry). Plus, Ozempic is changing so many industries, and airlines could be one of those who benefits from a thinner populace. ALSO also: Mark Zuckerberg's prototype VR feature makes the metaverse look amazing and less and less like a joke, Linda Yaccarino gets spanked in front of 400 people, Mr Beast locks a guy in a grocery store, and finally...RFK Jr does a backflip. This episode (and every episode) was masterfully edited by Dillon Moore. Check him out on Instagram @ dillonmoore or at https://www.dillonmoore.co Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All right. Hey, everybody. So a couple reminders up top. Be sure to subscribe. Follow us on social media if you haven't already. Stay tuned for a little mini series. We're going to be debuting in the next week or two. Also, Emil here has a show at the Lyric Hyperion here in Los Angeles on October 12th at 930. There's going to be a ticket link in the description. It's sold out. It's sold out. So thank you to everyone. If you didn't get it, you got to, you screwed up and you got to get it next time. everyone who bought a ticket. So, big news, buddy. She's dead. Who's dead? She's dead. Who's dead, Ben? Diane Feinstein. And a lot of people are wondering, did I have anything to do with it? Yeah. No! No, I didn't have anything to do with it. Where were you? Where was I? Let's see, what day did she die? What day did she die? Just a few days ago? Sounds like someone who was... I don't think I was, I wasn't like mopping. She didn't fall from stairs, did she? I don't know. From the top of a flight of marble steps that had just been recently mopped?

I think they're saying she died of heart failure. Oh, yeah. Like a 90-year-old. Yeah. You know, I don't have any jokes to make. Cause of death? Well, old as shit. Look, she was controversial toward the end of her career.

Right. But I think there's one thing we can all agree on, which was, she was sexy as hell. she was hot even to the end she was she was the hottest she was the hottest person in all the Senate she was a hot piece of ass yeah yeah so she was um she was the former mayor of san francisco that's right she also served as a california senator since 1992 yeah i'm looking right here according to reports she did die of heart failure failure but she was apparently heard trying to make a deal with death. She was offering to trade all of her living, healthy grandchildren to take her place. Interesting. Yeah. And also, uh, despite her death, she is expected to finish out

the rest of her term at the end of 2024. So, her staffers apparently tried to, um, do some kind of summoning and reanimate her body so they could continue, uh, yeah, going to dinner with lobbyists and that kind of thing. Right. I mean, like I said, it doesn't really matter because she is going to still finish out her term, uh, until 2024. As she should. As she should. You wouldn't ask a man to step down. No. Never. Why would you do so? Are you looking at a picture of her? Uh, no, I'm looking at. So that's the thing. When the, when these happen, there's always the, you know, kind of, uh, people tarnishing their legacy. No, there's always libs going like, we need to be respectful. We need to make sure we're, uh, we're honoring our queen. But this woman, Esha Kay, on Twitter, Esh illegal, compiled

bunch of, she was basically like, I don't want people whitewashing her legacy. Like, here's what she was actually doing. And so, you know, as mayor prosecuting black activists while she was trying to keep flying the Confederate flag in San Francisco. Okay. Wow. Yeah. We got a rent control provisions, you know, anti-gay stuff where she's, um, vetoing, uh, proposals that would give homosexuals the same benefits. Uh, so she was vetoing that kind of stuff? Yeah. She famously also yelled at those children, or not yelled at them, but scolded them. But this has been her entire career as her point, right? In the early 90s, fear

mongering about immigration. She's just all over the place. Well, you can't take away the fact that she was sexy, like I said. Nobody can take that away from her. That's your big takeaway. You can't whitewash that. What, sexiness? Yeah, her sexiness. But enough about that. My mom gave me enough

Guff already, she said, Can you stop tweeting jokes? Well, because... Does she follow you on Twitter? Of course she does. Oh, interesting. Famously, I've joked about Diane Feinstein's imminent demise

here on the show. And so naturally... Them eyes are beautiful. Them eyes are so beautiful. The only imminent damn eyes I'm seeing is them sweet eyes on... I was going to say my pants around my ankles.

Crank out. No, don't do it. Crank my haunt. No. But when she passed, my mentions were a mess, people tagging me on Twitter, people accusing me of having something to do with her death. And my mom, I retweeted one or two and my mom just said, we, or texted me and asked me to, can you just stop?

I don't know if she's a fine head or something. Your mom might be. I have no idea. Is that what they call themselves? Fine heads? Yeah, fine heads. Fine heads. Yeah.

Fine heads. All right. Enough of that. Anyway, the other big news that happened was, of course, the WGA reached a historic landmark deal with all of the major studios. And just, so before we get into that, we got to emphasize the fact that Netflix really, Netflix sucks. Netflix really sucks. They started making their own content in 2013.

I believe the company started years before that, but prior to making their own shows and movies, they were strictly just like a blockbuster where you could rent DVDs and then they would ship them to your house. They would ship them to your house and then you could... And then they introduced streaming. Streaming, right? So a lot of licensed content.

Right. Not original content. But once they started making their own shows and movies, they made every other, and their subscriber base was ratcheting up. Every movie studio and television studio started to panic, and they thought, okay, we got to follow suit. Well, because they struck out pretty big. Yes.

Orange is the new black. Yes. House of cards. Yes. Stranger Things. A later, a later hit, but a hit nonetheless. Birdbox, which was, I mean, that's debatable because. That's pretty late.

Yeah, and also that was kind of a manufactured craze hysteria. But so all of these other studios were chasing a business model that was doomed to fail. And it kind of was crazy making from the outside looking in, seeing these inflated budgets, seeing them consistently quarter after quarter losing money. Netflix, I mean. It just, you can't charge a flat rate for things like this. You can't, just like why, what was it, movie pass? Why movie pass failed. You can't.

The movie pass is back. Is it? Yeah. It's a different thing. Oh, yeah. They got like AMC. Plus, but you can only see three movies. Yeah, but movie pass itself is back.

Awesome. Nonetheless, all of these studios have now, they're reaping what they've sown, they're spending too much, and there aren't enough customers to go around to offset those high costs. Netflix, in fact, is the only company to have turned a profit on this model.

They eventually did come around to being cash flow positive. So let's talk about the deal. What's the deal? It's overall worth $233 million a year, right? Well, before, but I also want to talk about the, like, how crazy they got with, because the story we're going to talk about where they're like framing what the deal means for these companies and how they have to change. I think it's not, I think the bigger story is that how, how poorly they ran these companies rather than this deal with the writers. Like, you know, the stuff they're doing.

Everyone knows about the Amazon Lord of the Rings series. They spent, so this is the most expensive streaming show ever, $465 million on the first season. And it achieved just a 37% completion rate among viewers. Do you know anyone who's watched this fucking show? I know zero people. This was supposed to be like a big tent pole vehicle for them. I know one person who watched it.

I said, do you watch that show? And they said, I was going through a breakup. That's the thing with these, shows also is it seems like they they manufactured the hysteria amongst themselves that oh well we spent even more money and it was like they thought that the more you spent the more popular the show would be right Disney Plus recently showed up $212 million for the secret invasion I don't even know what that is oh I watched it when I was going through breakup it's great man it really helped me But, and so that's the thing, for every one of these, like, Stranger Things or...

Which also costs, like, $30 million per episode. But there's a payoff there. There's probably people being like, damn, this is a show everyone's talking about. Everyone says it kicks ass. I need to sign up for Stranger Things. And I need to get Stranger Things socks. And I need to get Stranger Things socks. I mean, yes.

Well, by the way, Netflix is now getting into the merch game like Disney. Big time. But then you have shows like Real Rob, the Rob Schneider vehicle. Oh, man, dude. I love Real Rob. that everyone was asking for? We need more Rob Schneider. What about prank encounters, starring the kid from Stranger Things?

Is that a real thing? Yeah, prank encounters, man. I guess the gist of the show is they, it's insanely cruel. They offer people jobs, like dream jobs, and then say, just kidding, it's a prank. So these people are left going like, oh, so I didn't get this awesome job. And it's like, no. And it's that kid with like his teeth missing. going, just kidding.

That's awful. That's the worst kind of prank. And then there's that fucking, is it a cake show? With Mikey Day from S&L. But then they went big. Remember Marco Polo? They were like, we need a pool game.

Everyone wants to watch a show about the namesake of your least favorite pool game. Yeah. Yeah. No, I. The Italian merchant. We were all clamoring for that show.

Yeah. Didn't even. the radio? No, that was Marconi. Give me the Marconi show. No, Marco Polo was a guy, you know, travel. I mean, who gives a shit? I didn't watch the show, so I don't know anything about it. Maybe if I had watched the show, I would know. But there was the South Park joke where they said that, you know, Netflix answered the phone with your greenlit. Yeah, because they would greenlight everything. There was also Space Force, Goop Lab, Bling Empire. Oh, Space Force. Yeah, two seasons.

Which just felt like a, okay, cool. You guys really quickly turned around a show that's making a jab at Trump's administration for creating the farcical space force. Like, all right, good job. We'll be laughing when they save us from... An asteroid? Or aliens. Yeah. And they fuck...

This is what they would also do. They would take beloved shows that a lot of people felt were canceled too soon. And then be like, we're going to give them four more seasons. And they're going to suck. Yeah. Can you give me any examples? Arrested Development. Oh, yeah.

Three perfect seasons. They're like, why don't we just bring it back for three more seasons? People love this thing that ended 15 years ago. And they're like, it's going to feel weird. The actors are going to be weirdly older. Yeah. It's going to be shot differently. And we're all going, what the fuck is this?

Yeah, Netflix is all about. And there's one character that doesn't come back. They're just going, where's that guy? Yeah. They really lean into the nostalgia. And instead of just leaving things be in a nostalgia world, they revive them. Haven't you seen Pet Cemetery? It's not a good idea to revive dead things.

I've actually never seen Pet Cemetery. That's the lesson. You don't revive dead things. Or Frankenstein? Is that the lesson of Frankenstein? Yeah, that you shouldn't revive dead things. You shouldn't revive a monster. It's dead for a reason.

The monster is cool. The monster is cool. Yeah. And then, of course, you had Blockbuster. That was a show on Netflix. kind of an insult to Bluckbuster. What was it?

It was a show about a blockbuster store. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. It ran for one season. Yeah. It's just,

it's crap. It is a, it, they churned out crap. And then they had every shitty cartoon you didn't want to watch. Oh, yeah.

Oh, Mr. Bubbles's fantastical bubble house. But this, but the problem was that they needed to do this. They needed to, once all the licensing

stuff started to go away and all these other companies were getting in going like, actually we're going to take our content back. and start our own thing. They needed to build out a library of stuff.

They needed to show, hey, we've got a ton of content. But it was all, it was truly the epitome of quantity over quality. They were emphasizing having a bunch of shit instead of quality stuff. My favorite genre of Netflix content, actor you love phoning it in. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, they gave Ryan Reynolds like three of the same movie. red notice I don't know

fucking I'd see I can Blue notice Blue Mr. Trapp or something where The legend

of Mr. Trapp Ryan Reynolds Netflix movies Okay Six Underground Red Notice

The Adam Project Oh I watched The Adam Project Yeah I did too That kid was a great actor Not a good movie No not a good movie

six underground couldn't tell you what it's about it's just oh ryan reynolds is charming and like shoots a gun white women everywhere are going to go crazy for this they love him he's so funny and he's he breaks down the fourth wall frequently or another's another michael bay movie too red nose six underground six underground yeah and i feel like i could tell that michael bay was like fuck netflix the whole time you can you can tell with these netflix movies that they've got potential but because they don't care about quality it's just a the money grabbed for the, the creators of the movie. Case in point, glass onion, then the, the, uh, knives out.

They paid Ryan John, was it Ryan Johnson? Yeah. They paid him like $400 million for two movies. That's my other favorite. Just, it's like, that's the, the business part is like, how do you guys, how are you running a publicly traded company and you are this fucking bad at, at overpaying? It seems like there was no negotiation. It would be like me going to, uh, the store for the,

the first time and going, oh, wow, you guys got fucking frozen waffles? Will you take $500 for one pack of those frozen waffles? And the store's just like, uh, yeah? Well, I mean, if you're paying us $500, are you sure you don't want to like, I don't know, shop around? Just, I want these waffles. Okay. Take the $500. That's my other favorite Netflix genre.

What? Um, beloved director and we're not giving him any notes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we're giving Spike Lee a movie and it's going to be four hours. Wait, they did that too? Uh, defyved Bloods. Oh, yeah, I didn't, I didn't watch it.

Don't. Oh, mostly because I'm racist, but right. Yeah. Yeah. Just a brutal movie. Really? I mean, there was something in there, but it just was so long. By the end, I was just going, what, what are we doing?

Hmm. I really need to watch Do the Right Thing Again, because that movie's so good. I just love the way it's shot and the Fish Island's and you just feel like, oh, my God. After having lived in New York during the summer when it is miserable hot. Do the right thing reminded you of your time in New York? Dusha. No, it didn't. No, it did not. Just the fact, it was over my head. Then just in Williams, sir.

Shut up. Shut up. It was over my head the fact that the weather was so uncomfortably hot that it made tensions. People crazy. Yes. And I just, I was like, yeah, I guess I get that. But having lived there and having, like, there are one or two days where you're just, yeah, you're fucking pissed off because it's so uncomfortably hot. It makes people horny. It makes people horny.

It makes people more racial. You're out at the bar. People are asking, do you have AC? Yeah. Can you imagine not having AC? I'll go home. a lot of people yeah ooh baboo anyway so here's some of the quick points the overall deal is worth 233 million dollars a year which is the estimate and the am ptp their original um proposal would

have amounted to being worth about 88 million a year whereas the wGA's initial proposal was like 460 million dollars a year so kind of a middle ground streamers can use AI based on writer's scripts But there's been like a lot of limitations on it. Yes. But so riders will still get credit and compensation when AI is used. And it's kind of like the writers have to kind of be piloting it. They can use it to kind of create basic outlines, but then go in and finesse it themselves. Streaming before didn't offer the same. This is the crux of the thing.

It didn't offer the same rewards for success as traditional TV. So now they're getting closer to that. They still, crucially, they will not release. viewing data. But I think they still got a win on that because they will be, they're not releasing it to the public, but they will be releasing it to the guild. Right. And they can confidentially share it with their members.

And then, which I think is a huge. Oh, yeah. Because that's how these reward structures are, are going to be. Right. And so I think that's going to have the same practical effect that they wanted. Yeah. But I think that a big reason why, and I'm not the only one to posit this. Other people are positing it?

Oh, dude. So many other people have posited the following. Okay. The data is all, it's all bunk. It's like the viewing hours are probably way, way smaller than you would think. Definitely. Which, just to tease this, we might talk about this at a later point in a later episode, but there is a theory that seems to be gaining ground online that the internet is mostly

just bots interacting with one another. And that's a big deal because ad revenue is like the backbone of the internet economy. And if it turns out that most of the clicks and views and stuff are just bots, then it's all just a house of cards. Netflix, anybody? Yeah. That was really good. God. I didn't finish that series.

I never fucking watched it. Well, because I'm an ally. And once Kevin Spacey got the axe, I was like, well, I'm not going to watch House of Card. anymore i'm not going to support this no i'm kidding i stopped watching way way way before that because i just i was like all right because that's another thing that they do oh this show is incredibly popular let's make it go for 25 seasons netflix does that yeah look at look at stranger things they're on like season 40 or something ridiculous truly on season 5 nah i don't know about that i think that they i think that they're going a lot more than that but so uh part of the thing is that

shows that are watched by at least 20% of their domestic subscriber base in the first 90 days and for every year thereafter, the first 90 days, we'll get a bonus, which could be anywhere from $9,000 to $40,000 depending on the type and length of the program. Foreign streaming residuals, which they barely had anything for. So like if your show streams in Spain or something will increase. I want that to narrow. You know what I mean? Yeah, dinero.

Yeah, dinero, see. Yeah, clara. EUROS. For suppesto. Por suppesto. So Netflix, for example, will total, on a Netflix show, you can get up to like $32,830 per episode over the course of three years versus roughly 18,000 and a half previously. Yeah, I want to go through all of this, but maybe we can post it somewhere. There's a, someone put up a great, it's a document with, um, it's a document with,

where they started with what the original Writers Guild proposals were on May 1st, what the AMPTPP offered back, and then what they won after striking. And it's like, it's, it's just, it's great to see, you know, because some things were, you know, some things were higher than, you know, they originally wanted certain percentages. is um the studios were like no we're not going that high they you know went much higher than their offer but some things were they were asking the the studios didn't even counter they were basically like go fuck yourself and now they were like okay let's fucking talk about it seems like we should post that because it's yeah it's great to see the the one it seems

like there was basically a middle ground when there was negotiation the wGA started high Producers started low. They found a middle ground. It just kind of all worked out. But so one of the big ones was the, you know, preserving the writer's room thing. A lot of, you know, right. That was, according to this, the, the studios flatly refused to even counter on that. They were like, we're not discussing it.

And they were. Wait, what do you mean? The, the writer's room thing, like having a minimum staff, a minimum staff in a minimum period. Doing the, God, what we were talking about the, this was, this was when the writer's strike happened. The mini room things, all of these things where they were like, you know, we want you guys to stop cutting out all of our lifelines on these things and shaving, doing all these like cost-cutting. Well, so that leads us to how this deal is going to affect all the streamers because the deal, according to the Wall Street Journal, it's going to mark

the end of, quote, peak TV where money and jobs were just like plentiful, where they were answering the phone with your greenlit where they were spending like Netflix spent $17 billion on content last year. That's probably not going to continue. So they're going to, streamers are going to have to pay more for writers, more for directors, because directors just got their deal. Apparently they got a shitty deal, though. Oh, really? Well, they didn't go on strike. The SAG and the WGA went on strike and we're like, hey, we want to be compensated fairly for our work. DGA was like, no, I'm not joining. We're going to. We're going to just strike a deal with the studios.

Well, nonetheless, they're going to pay more for writers, and then whatever comes with the actors is going to cost them more. So it's, and they're going to have to do all of that without adding to existing production costs, which are already really high. So that means that there's going to be, even though it's a win for everybody, there are going to be likely fewer productions, fewer jobs going around, but more money for those, you know, the cream rises to the top. So it's not going to be the case that, yeah, they're spreading every,

everybody thin and paying three people to do these mini rooms for a couple weeks there so my hope is that they're going to yeah they're going to be making fewer new shows so i'm hoping that it'll shift from quantity over quality to vice versa where it'll be yeah i just i disagree with that framing though of because that's reading the article is it's it's frustrating they frame it in this way where it's like, because of this, because of this new deal, these streaming companies are going to have to change everything. It's like, you know, it's fewer new shows in production, a higher bar to get shows renewed, rich paydays going only to an elite few. It's like, that is not the outcome of what happened. That's the outcome of this new deal with the WGA. That is the outcome

of them running a horrible business, greenlighting things that have no business getting greenlight. putting money behind things nobody wants or cares about. And then they were building all of this off of, you know, cheap labor and being like, well, we'll just cut costs on the talent side. Writers, actors, you know, make it harder than ever to have a career. And so, yes, fewer things are going to get made. But, like, to be honest, even with however many shows were being made, it was, it's an incredibly difficult job to get. There's not a lot of writing jobs going around. So I think we have it

somewhere here. There was a there was a producer who said he sees about, he predicts there's going to be about a third. We're going to lose about a third of the shows. It's going to shrink by like a third. Yeah. Which is not an insane number. When you're thinking about all the content that's getting produced. But the outcome will be that they're like the people who are getting hired to make stuff will have better jobs and better productions. Right. I think protections. I'm sorry. Another thing that, uh, that I saw a prediction that someone was making was that there's going to be some consolidation among the studios because currently it is kind of confusing for, for we, the consumer, because there are so many options and not only,

options like you got Hulu, Max, Netflix, Disney, Peacock, Paramount, Apple TV, that's seven. Showtime. It's Showtime. You've got, I mean, Amazon Prime. FreeVee? FreeV. Well, that's Amazon. And then to be.

To be. And then within those, you've got add-ons, you've got different tiers, you've got sports plans. So there's likely going to be some consolidation in the space. But it's just, it's just funny that the secret, the, the secrets out. not a viable business plan to just let people pay a flat rate per month. You need ads. Like, that's how the whole, that's how they made money. I'm just, it really is surprising. Yeah. They also talk about the consumer. I think that's the real loser and all this. I love to consume. I love to be a loser consumer. Isn't that what we all are?

I do. It's such a loser. When it really comes down to it, we're all just loser consumers. The cost of streaming subscriptions has risen sharply over the past year as entertainment companies focus on acquiring customers and growth at all costs gave way to a profitability push. That trend is likely to continue, and the cost of the strike settlement will give streamers one more reason to lift prices. Disney and August raised the price of its flagship streaming service, Disney Plus, and Hulu by more than 20% each. It's second round of significant price hikes in about a year.

We lose. Paramount CEO said he plans to again raise the price of Paramount Plus. Who's watching Paramount Plus? Others are likely to follow. You don't watch Yellowstone? I don't. You don't watch 1850. or whatever, 1893. Nobody knows the date.

Consumers face an increasingly complicated array of subscription tiers and packages as some streamers experiment with add-on sports plans. I was just saying. Adopted tiers. Households will also have to pay for services. They once enjoyed free of charge as part of a family sharing arrangements as more services crackdown on password sharing. You know what's not confusing at all for me, the loser consumer?

This show that's coming from the UK, naked attraction, that has just, dare I say, come onto the scene with a bang and a... Why do you dare to say come? Because they're naked, man. There's no coming. It's naked and afraid, not naked and coming. Well, this isn't naked and afraid. I mean, naked attraction.

This is arguably naked and fearless. It's called naked attraction. It's a UK dating show. It's made its American premiere on Max. I can't call it max on HBO it's it's it's called naked attraction it's it's all we have is loser consumers is is refusing to say their name yes thank you that's all we've got but it's if you've got HBO you got to watch it this show is absolutely bananas they take they take well can we tell can we tell them how I found out about this show sure Ben we we did a live show

in London so some of you guys might know about this because you were there but the night before he said, I want to show you something on the show, but I'm not going to tell you what it is. And in front of hundreds of people, you showed me this show. Yeah. And I lost my mind. Yeah. So I was like, I didn't know you could put this on TV. Yeah, they show a lot more on television in the UK than here in the United States.

It blew my mind. They've got those stiff upper lips. They truly, they truly keep calm and carry on over there. There's a picture on my Instagram of us on stage. Yes. we had it up on the big screen for quite a while. Just a big cock. Yep.

So the premise of the show is that, hey, the most fun part of dating is when you both get naked anyway, and it's also the most vulnerable. So let's just skip to that part. And you've got like six contestants who are all vying for the love and affection of one person who's in the middle. they are fully clothed, as is the host, and they first, you can't see the contestants, but they lift up the glass or whatever and stop it just above their genitals. So the first thing that you see is their penises

or their vaginas, just that's it, that's all you see. And then they go into these close-up 4K HD shots of their genitals. You see the genies right. there jenny's man everybody's and and i believe the person makes the first round of judgment based on the genitals and just right away is like i don't like i don't like that guy's penis i don't know why this one's australian but i don't like that guy's penis get him out of here and then the guy and then they show him and he's like well you don't like my penis then all right well

it's been fun to be here and now i'm going to get out of here and then he leaves and then i believe they have them turn around and then she judges by the, they judge by the ass. They do this butt? They just judge by the ass. I guess that makes sense. Oh, that guy's got a really brown looking ass crack. Do you see his face? Yeah, you see their face afterward. So they narrow it down.

So you're going strictly off generals. At first, I believe that that's like the first round. Then it's ass. And then it's like midsection. When do you see face? You see face eventually. And then it gets down to the final two. And then they just got their fully naked bodies. And they awkwardly bring them out in front of.

the contestant and they're like, wow, so what do you think of Cameron here? What do you think of David? And they're both just standing there with their dicks out and just, but the most interesting thing to me is these aren't, these aren't people who are like down on their luck and just resorting to being on television naked. They're like, one guy I remember watching the show was like a real estate developer. Like they're, they're people with, I just don't understand. I don't understand. I just, I don't get it, but it's awesome. It clearly works. It's the number one show in America, or it's the number one show streaming on Max right now. There you go. And then the, the person who is choosing the dates, then goes backstage, takes off all of their clothes and comes out and then they're both just looking at each other naked and then they give a hug. Wait, does the person who gets chosen then get to, when they see them naked go, oh. No, they don't get, they are chosen and then they go on a clothed date. and the camera follows them for that, and then they do a little post-date kind of interview.

And it's very sweet. My biggest concern is that the people are going to start, studios and execs are going to start realizing this is what people want. This is the number one thing on streaming. Oh, can we please get some naked Marvel shows? No, but scripted stuff is so expensive, right?

And they're like, okay, we got to pay... Part of that is wardrobe. Yeah. We got to pay writers. We got to pay. Hey, directors, like the actors, why don't we just get some real estate developer, dickhead? To show his dickhead? Wait, are you saying that you're afraid that they're going to skew heavily toward reality?

Because they've already got so much reality TV. But people fucking eat it up. Yeah, and they have been since the real world and road rules were introduced on MTV music television. Right. So my concern is that as a loser consumer. As a loser consumer, with a, with streaming services being more conservative and more afraid to take risks, they're going to be like, fuck it, just green light, naked and sucking each other off. Naked and chilling.

Yeah. They got another show over there where people just, I forgot what it's called, but people just. Love Island? No. Because everyone. It's way better than that. It's, um, everyone goes nuts over this stuff. It's just,

but people? What? But people? Go on. He got you. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's basically gaming, streaming. It's people reacting to either television shows or news stories or something. And they're just like a couple best friends, siblings, husband and wife.

And they're just, they're normal Britons, Britons, British people. Sure. And they give them tea and crumpets and stuff, you know, keep them satiated. And then they're just reactive. So, like, one was they were watching the king coronation. And it's just their normal reactions. And there were guys being like, oh, he looks like garbage. He looks, what's all this pomp and circumstance full?

So fun to watch. It's called like Fishbowl or something like that. Really great. But they're not naked. Nobody's naked. Any hoompsed. You know who really doesn't like this show? They've already posted videos about it.

Naked, Naked detraction. Oh, I do know who. Yeah, Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh. These guys have a take on everything. They have a take on absolutely everything. I mean, it's like, no matter what it is,

they'll have a take. Their main take... And it'll be the corneous shit. Well, their main take that I... About how it doesn't really line up with their white Christian values. Right. Matt Walsh is, of course, like,

well, there's no surprise of a society in... decline without any kind of meaningful, cohesive culture would eventually decay to this point. And it's like, shut up. That's actually really good. Thanks. But their other point that I'm like, yeah, I get it is like, we're degrading these people. Nobody's forcing them to be on these shows.

You know, you would think that being, it's just, it's more contradictory shit where they're like, oh, the left is so prudish and they can't. the left is yeah they can't take any kind of humor or anything like that and oh but then they see a dick and they're like nobody it's society's collapsing it's an adults it's a show for adults like ghetto fucking who cares man don't watch it yeah don't watch it matt chapiro Matt be what the fuck is his name Matt walsh do you think he watches it and the the vaginas come up and he's like what is a woman what what is a woman I don't know what I'm looking at here. These guys need to relax.

All right, let's shift gears. What do we got here? Yeah, pop the clutch. Guys, he can't. For the audio listener, he just forced it from second into first? I don't know what you just did. We were going downhill. Okay, but still, you would not, you shifted into the third if you're going down a hill, not into first.

No, not the way I do it. Okay. So, y'all, y'all remember O-Zempi? It's all I think about sometimes. OZMPI? Yeah. And we got it? You've got to fly in this apartment.

I know. I'm just ignoring it. It's not driving me nuts, but I do hear it. It's also not an apartment. It's actually sad. You know who wants us to be on... You know how all the guys are thinking about the Roman Empire? Yeah. I'm thinking about Ozzyc.

Yeah. Well, I thought you were going to say that airline CEOs are thinking about Ozempic. Me too. They should hire me in an airline. Is it... They should hire me as an airline CEO. They should hire me as the guy who flies the damn things.

They should hire me to have diarrhea on the plane. I got diarrhea on a plane. Yeah, let me tell you. Definitely checks out. Down the whole aisle? No, I didn't do it. I made it to the bathroom. I was so lucky I was in the very first exit row, like right in front of the bulkhead where the bathroom is.

So I got served my dinner first. It was on a transatlantic flight from New Jersey to Milan. And they served the dinner, and I ate it real fast as I want to do because I eat very quickly. And within about 20 minutes, I was going, oh, no. Oh no I gotta go And I got up And I went to the bathroom

And it was You farted out your shit I farted out your shit Yes I did And of course I'm sitting there just going like Jesus Christ Everybody's going to hear how many times I have to flush

And I got out And nobody cared But then there was a line of people waiting to use the bathroom, like within another 10, 15 minutes. And I thought, oh, okay, the food is bad. Everybody's getting the same Ria. Right. Yeah.

God, New Jersey to Milan. Yeah. Was it just full of New Jersey Guinea's gone? I can't wait to see the Motherland. I do not remember. Probably, yeah. It was loaded with him. So I'm going to retract that.

Yeah, it was loaded with it, man. Yeah, they wouldn't shut up. A bunch of guys with crucifixes tattooed on him. I can't wait to see it. Okay, so there was this story going around. I mean, first of all, everybody is apparently on Ozempic and WeGovie, and the air, like, it's, which I don't believe, I don't know, but the impacts of it are still unknown. Like, there are entire industries, including and especially airlines that are going to be affected, some positively, some positively, some negatively. there's one analyst who is estimating that if every passenger lost 10 pounds,

it could save United Airlines, for example, $80 million a year. Yeah, Sheila, Kayago, oh, I always get the names wrong. Sheila. Try again, sound it out. Kayaglu? Kayaglu. Kayaglu. A Jeffreys.

A Jeffreys. She estimated in a recent report on the implications of a slimmer society that airlines could save a significant amount of money if the average passenger lost. wait yeah that's right and airplanes as you guys are probably well aware the lighter they are the less fuel they have to burn which is where those savings come in so they've already done a whole bunch of stuff you'll probably notice there's no longer maggot for i mean there's no more maggots magazines oh magazines magazines magazines aren't on airplanes anymore lighter food carts lighter food carts lighter food cards less food like they do every single thing that they can to uh make those

damn things lighter. I don't know why they don't just make the whole plane out of the black box. That could save something. I'm always saying that. Yeah. Make the whole damn thing out of it. Or put a giant parachute in it. That would weigh so much.

Oh my God. But they said using United Airlines as a model, she estimated that if each passenger weighed to each past, if each passenger weighed 10 pounds less on average, the weight savings would equal around 1,790 pounds per flight. Referencing a past example of the airline cutting down aircraft weight, she estimates that the airline would save 27.6 million gallons of fuel per year, or around $80 million worth going by the average price of fuel this year.

Why don't they just give all the passengers diarrhea? It's one way to do it. Oh, but then the dokey would stay on the airplane. Now it goes right out. Well, that's only if you're over the ocean. On a flight from New Jersey to Milan? Oh, they're dumping it. They're dumping it.

Well, you're not going over the ocean. You're going over like Greenland and stuff. What are you talking about? Because the earth is round, man. Well, I'm not getting into this. I'm not out there myself. I've seen the dang maps. Here's a crazy thing that we didn't get to share last time because the full effect of the success of Ozempic has not, hadn't fully been understood.

But so, OZempic is made by a company called Novo Nordisk, and they are a Danish company. so they hail from Denmark. Denmark. And so at one point this year, at their peak, they were valued at $428 billion, right? That is more than the entire Danish economy at $406 billion. So this one company was at one point,

it's still pretty close, bigger than the entire Danish economy. And without their success, it is estimated that Denmark would actually be in a deep recession, which is wild. So Novo and Eli Lilly, who are the makers of WeGovie, are enjoying this baritable duopoly. No, I don't think Eli Lilly does Wegovi. I think that's...

Which one do they do? Because I think Wegovi is just the lower dose one for weight loss rather than the... It's right on the tip of my tongue. It's a... We know it's semaglutide. It's amaglutide. Eli Lilly makes... Come on, dude.

It's giving me the actual... Eli Lilly Samaglutide. It is Mujaro. Yes, that's what it is. Wow, folks. That's how long it took me versus the guy over here. Mr. Can't Google shit. What were you using Bing.com?

Or were you using MSN over here? Jesus, God. I typed it into a text message. Oh, my. I tweeted it. I tweeted Eli. So Novo and Eli Lilly are there, the industry, just this weight loss industry that they both are absolutely dominating is estimated to be worth about a trillion dollars. And they're not going to have any real competitors until about 2027 when competitor drugs are expected to come online.

It's going to change everything. We're going to have. It's going to change everything. And because it's not just making you lose weight. It's also suppressing appetites. I was going to say it makes you cooler. Do you think it makes you cooler? Oh, yeah, everything.

Every drug makes you cooler, man. Any drug. Yeah. But there's another thing. There's not, they didn't say a whole lot, but I do find it very interesting. The, yeah. So Kellogg, and apparently news to me, Kellogg changed their fucking name. To what?

They're now Kelanova. Keleanova. Man, that sounds too dastardly. That sounds too evil. corporation. Kelanova. We're like a shitty Hollywood couple.

But combining their names. Sorry, go on. What would their names be? Kelly and, I don't know, Basanova or something. Billy Basanova. Kelanova is what they're calling the celebrity couple.

Yep. We all know. Billy Basanova. Yeah. And people with names like that. Yeah. Save me from this. But.

So it's, if Ozempic leads people to eat less, maker of Cheez-It's will be ready. Damn right. All right. So diabetes, drug, OZempic, and other appetites pressing medications are set to help overweight Americans cut down on their calorie intake.

U.S. food companies are unlikely to sit idly by. Yeah, because they want you to keep eating them damn cheesits. But if people are getting skinny and not wanting to eat, what's Cheez-It to do? This is the CEO of, uh, of Kelanova, where by no means complacent, but they don't really go into what they're going to be fucking doing. I can tell you exactly what they're going to be fucking doing.

I can tell you exactly what they're going to to be doing they're going to be trying to he called it very very early days but but said the company was studying its potential impact on dietary behavior so it could respond if necessary it's like okay you're talking about these addictive foods that we have and this drug that makes people less addicted to them are they like okay we need to be ready we need more addictive chemicals we're going to put in these fucking foods if i see one person not grabbing those cheezettes making a healthier choice this makes me want the hot and spicy cheeses they are so fucking good we're gonna have to get you some on some ozempic tabasco hot and spicy cheese it's if you hadn't if you haven't

tried them folks go get them before that ozempik turns off your uh your hunger switch or man you got two flies now they fucked Go on or or wait for the really addictive cheese It's go nuts on that stuff Do what kind of stuff they're cooking up That's what I'm going to do I'm going to wait for the nasty shit I want them to just lean into the advertising

And say now more addictive That'd be cool Like cheese it addictive style You thought you couldn't Like the ones with, I don't know, nicotine or like, we developed an all new thing. It would be cool if they just started putting nicotine in them. Man, brother, if they put nicotine inside hot and spicy cheese, it's, I'd never leave the grocery. Anything to get the kids to stop vaping.

Anything to get them to stop vaping. I'd be like that guy that Mr. Bees locked in the grocery store. We won't get to that just yet. We can. We should. Well, let's talk about real fast Mark Zuckercorn, because. he pulled a fast one on all of us and he he did a they debuted the new they debuted the new um quest pro the headsets it's fine it but the big thing they also debuted these smart glasses

they're pairing their ray ban they're partnering with ray ban correct and they have a little light that turns on when so people will know if you're recording them um so you'll know exactly who to punch in the bar right The guy with Raybans with a little red dot on it. God, that's going to suck. Yeah, it's going to suck. Actually, I think people are going to like it because they're going to go up in the camera and go, What's up?

I just want to say what's up to my mom. That's what you think is going to happen at the bar? Oh, yeah. Yes. Look at all those videos of the man on the street. I know, but that's the thing. It already sucks. It's already annoying.

No, they don't. Do you see that guy fucking shoot those guys? That was cool. Insane. He got off. I think purely off of the jury hating. People are so annoyed. with this and like stop fucking filming and pranking in public that they're like, you know,

I don't, I don't mind that he shot him. Yeah. Well, it's in Texas, right? It was in Texas. I don't know where it was. Well, so anyway, Zuckerhorn and Facebook, or meta, excuse me, they really pulled back on the idea, because before they were pushing this idea of the metaverse, right? And that we're all going to be living inside of it and doing everything inside of it with

these shitty cartoon avatar. And then Mark Zuckerberg was like, no one cares about this. Yeah. So I'm going to, I'm going to. We're pivoting. We're pivoting. I'm going to become muscular. I'm going to start wrestling.

And then now they're doing this. So he did this interview with Lex Friedman. And they showcased this new thing called Pixel Codec avatars, which is actually a pretty long running. It's their longest running research project they've had going at Facebook. since like 2019 but it was the perfect thing to to showcase exactly what it is so i can watch like the first two minutes of it yeah of course it's so crazy it is really crazy inside the metaverse mark and here's uh the least charismatic i am lex freeman guy you've ever i'm inside the madverse right now we've got mark zuckerberg he kind of makes the joke about it he is on

the other side of the world and we are talking to each other in the manner. And I are hundreds of miles apart from each other in physical space but it feels like we're in the same room because we're appeared to each other as photorealistic Kodak

avatars in 3D with spatial audience. There's no way it feels like they're in the same room. This technology is incredible and I think it's the future of how human beings connect to each other in a deeply meaningful way on the international. No way. These avatars I don't know.

Many of the nuances of facial expressions that we use, we humans use to communicate. So for the audio listener, we humans. We humans, just like me. He's in this white space, and it is his full body with his clothes and everything. It is a, obviously they did, as Dylan was saying before we recorded, they did like a full body scan of him. This isn't technology that is ready. You don't just put on the headset and appear like that. Of course not.

But let's fast forward. So here he is. This is what I can't take, though. They cut back to this shit and they're like, it feels like I'm in the room with you. Well, hang on. So now we've got Mark watching him. Mark Zuckerberg's ruin in the world.

Anyway, going. Let's see. Lighting change? Yeah, I'm sitting right in front of me. I can't do an impression of him. It's also funny. They like, look at this. The lighting.

Look at how. And it doesn't feel awkward to be really close to you. He's just kind of experimenting at first. He's got a little light source, and he's changing the location of it. Wait, I love Mark's answer to this. No, it does. I actually moved you back a few feet before you got it. Because Lex was like right up in his face.

And it doesn't feel uncomfortable, be right up close to you. No, it does. I moved you back. Really close to you. No, it does. I actually moved you back a few feet before you got into the headset. you were like right here I don't know if people can

see this is incredible the realism here is just incredible where am I where are you Mark where are we and Mark misses the queue completely he doesn't know how to have conversation right let's see

you're in Austin right or this place we're shrouded by darkness Mark Zuckerberg does look like a worm accidentally like crawled on a genie bottle and the genie was like, can you make a wish? And the worm said, make me human. He just looks like a worm that turned human. With ultra-realistic face and just...

That's the gist of it. Folks, for the audio listener, God, I wish you could see it. You can see it. And this is a hot or not app? What? Hot or not? This all started with hot or not. Yeah, that makes sense.

This is how... This all started from one guy being so horny, heartbroken. It's a dangerous combination. It's like mixing the two pieces of epoxy or whatever. For a nerd to be horny and heartbroken, that's how you create. That's how you create. Oh, horny and heartbroken? Yeah, horny and heartbroken.

I have to say, he does seem like he is rebranded to being our kind of mellowest... billionaire recently. Yeah, he's, he's a... If there is a PR company behind this whole thing, they're doing a bang-up job. I mean, just... Jiu-Jitsu? Well, sure, but like, in a...

Just married to one woman, having kids with her. Yeah, instead of two. Instead of, like, what is Elon Musk? Like, how many women has he been married and divorced to? Nobody knows anymore. He's got, like, 12 children from... I almost... I think I got one of the flies.

You would see it in your hands. No, but I think. I think it, yeah, I don't know. Fuck. Anyway, go on. Yeah, Elon Musk fucked a lot of ladies. He truly did. Yeah, Grimes.

But he doesn't seem to be inserting himself into crazy, uh, culture war bullshit, political shit. Elon Musk was down by the border this weekend, just like, right? Live streaming migrants. Yeah. And Mark's like, isn't, the metaverse so kooky? Yeah, he's like actually working on shit. Yeah, I agree. Speaking of Elon Musk, they trotted out Linda Yakorino in front of an audience to talk about...

Our Italian Queen. To talk about, yeah, all the X stuff. And right before they brought her out, they had Yael, Yowel, Yowel Roth, who was the former, he was fired by Elon Musk. He was the, I believe he was head of safety. Was that what he? He was head of safety, I believe. Will Roth? He was, yeah, he was the head of Twitter's trust and safety department. And they, uh, he was very publicly ousted by Elon Musk and, uh, they had him come out,

very short notice and had some bad things to say about Elon Musk and about X. And then Linda Yakorino came out and basically just had, to save face and do a bunch of damage control. And it's really, it was really kind of weird and awkward to watch because she's just such a CEO. Yeah. And some like really cringy parts where she's clearly, she gets asked like straight up, you know, are you the CEO or is Elon still running the show?

And she's like, oh, it's me, blah, blah. And then they start asking her about, you know, very real things. Like, well, it didn't seem like you knew about X, Y, Z. And she's just like, no, I did. I made that decision. It's like, okay. But she also has, I just texted it to you. There's a great video of her.

It's very embarrassing. She asked them to, like, make some noise if they, well, we just watch. You were brought in as CEO. That is your title. But you don't. don't cover product. As a result of the fact that the product team does not report to you, the product team at META reports to Mark Zuckerberg, because the product team does not report to you, there has

been speculation that you are in more of a C-O-O role or a CBO role, a CEO in name-only role. You know what's funny is that we talk about that a lot at X. As you know, it's a very flat organization. I'm not sure what your definition of or how you want to kind of wiggle. me into an answer of, are you really just a C-O or, I don't know. CEO, CEO, oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, not nice. I want to go back to your, he runs.

Wait, wait, just the fact, the fact that she thinks that that's not nice to suggest, it's a fair question. Yeah, it's like, are you actually the chief executive, are you running things day to day because Elon has been such and continues to be so prominent on the app itself as if he's running things still. It is a fair question. It's a fair question. Yes. But I wouldn't call it nice.

But that's fine. She's not there to ask nice questions. Grow a spine. But she has a very funny moment when she. Product. He runs technology. He leads a team of exceptionally talented engineers. And who's kidding who?

Who wouldn't want? Elon Musk sitting by their side running product. I see a show of hands. There may be a few show of hands to get the cute chuckles you're getting, but I would say the percentages in this room are about 99% who would say no to that and 1% of maybe personal opinion. opinion what yeah what you asked a personal opinion question like what does that even mean yeah but i love that who wouldn't want yeah on musk by their side you know so he in response to this uh this debacle

el eliceline tweeted i have rarely seen evil in as pure a form as joel roth and cariswisher's heart is filled with seething hate wait what in his that doesn't i regard their dislike of me as a compliment. He's calling them evil. It wasn't a nice question. My brother in Christ, let me explain something to you. This is going out directly to Elon Musk. The reason why people question you so much and why people continue to doubt you is because you have a very, very well-documented history of using vaporware, of bullshitting, of making empty promises that don't pan out. You name it. You tend to promise the world over-promise

underdeliver. So that's why people, you, you lose your, it's like fool me one, shame on you, fool me fucking 20 times suck me off. I mean, also, not only that, it's the, it's the fact that the stuff UL Roth is saying is like, Elon Musk is like very careless and irresponsible about the things he does. So he's, when he was talking to her, he said in his interview with Swisher, Roth recounted how Musk put him personally in danger. Musk suggested on Twitter that Roth had advocated for sexualizing children, a completely unfounded claim, which led to death threats and his address being posted online. So he says, I had to sell my house. I had to move. He encouraged Jacarino to think about how Musk could turn on her and said the site was bleeding users and advertisers. So it's like, you calling this person clearly evil? I mean, you see it every day with the way he uses his platform. It's like he's, oh yeah, he's giving attention to all these horrible people. It's, uh, It's awful. And he, like, you know, basically turned a mob on this guy.

Yeah. Speaking of psycho shit, we love Mr. Beast. Here on our show, we do love Mr. Beast. He tweeted the other day, I believe in beef. We believe in beef, Mr. Beef. He tweeted, I messed up. I bought a random grocery store and told a random person, I'd give him $10,000 every day he lives in it. And it's been weeks.

and he shows no signs of ever leaving. I'm going to go broke. So you told me you want to talk about it. I said, I thought you fell for a, because I saw it. And I was like, oh, that's a screenshot. That's not real. No, it's a real tweet. I know.

And then you were like, I'm looking at it on his profile. Someone says, someone did the math and said, you owe him $175,000 right now. And Mr. Beast follows up and says it's actually been over a month so far. It's probably about, what, 300 grand? Something like that. And then this other guy asked if the guy is alone or is the store still operating as a store. And Mr. B said he blacked out the windows and locked it. So this guy's just- And he says, ha-ha.

Yeah, ha-ha. I love this. I can't wait for this video. I can't wait for the thumbnail where the guy's just, if he really wants to make it enticing and challenging, turn off bathroom access. Like, that's what he's got to do. How is that enticing? Stop with the running water because then the guy's got a shit in a bucket. something he's got to figure it out but the food starts to rot throw a coyote in there

you want mr beast to be more depraved and fuddistic just lean into it man you've already come this far yeah become yeah become lean into the beast part stop being such a mister yeah be more of a beast be more of a beast be more of a beast and then let's see finally let's we got a we got a oh we got to sign off with this one Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Another huge part of the show. How come I can't get this to play? Okay. So he tweeted he tweeted. Do you think he knows he's not good at it? Do you think he thinks he's good at it? I think that he yeah it's like a dad doing a backflip just like hey everybody watch this and he just does like kind of shitty backflip into the pool.

But I'll do it in his voice. So Robert F. Kennedy Jr. tweeted, thank you so much to... Let me try it again. Yeah, you kind of lost it. Thank you so much to all who donated for taking our support base to the next level. Hashtag Kenny 24.

And so he's thanking everybody for their donating. And in celebration, he does a backflip. Are you guys ready? Pretty great. I wouldn't quite call a backflip. No. He does some kind of diagonal. Yeah.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, dare I say, it's incredibly cute. That is the cutest thing I've ever seen. If he wasn't such a psycho, it's like, oh, brother, you've got my vote. Do you think he promised that? I think he made this himself. No, but do you think he said, if you guys hit X amount in donations, I'll fucking backflip. Like it's a Patreon goal? And the junior heads were like, say no more, fam.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I think so. Wow, he tweeted a picture of him looking absolutely jacked as a young man on a rhino. with a cigarette in his mouth? What? Well, it's, do you see the tweet it's in response to? Yeah, it says somebody needs to create you on a horse with some kind of gun using AI and it would go viral in minutes.

I'm getting old socialist vibes. What the fuck? He does look like really jacked. Yeah, yeah. Look at that titty muscle. Yeah. Yeah, it is pretty sick. No, that looks like him.

Yeah. Wow, he is riding the rhino. Well, that's a good place to stop. You got anything you want to say? thank you for what to who they know they know okay so okay thank you thank you for me too to who huge shout out to rfk junior to who to rfk junior thank you thank you that's not who that was too sweet backflip that was so cool man did you donate oh yeah 500 dollars you did oh yeah big time i wanted to see him do the backflip he promised that if we donated

he would do the backflip. You know what the goal was? To get him to do? The monetary goal to get him to do a backflip? $500. Nobody was donating. Everyone say thank you to Ben. You're welcome.

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