The Ben and Emil Show - PP 24: Taco Bell Sex Party + stealing MILLIONS from Netflix while on drugs

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

Get in loser we're going to a sex party at the Taco Bell in San Pedro!!! Also, how an absolute gambling king swindled Netflix out of tens of millions of dollars and blew it in the coolest way possible. Tickets to see Emil live in Brooklyn: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/emil-derosa-last-chance-to-see-tickets-754873315407?aff=odwdwdspacecraft This episode (and every episode) was masterfully edited by Dillon Moore. Check him out at https://www.dillonmoore.co Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taco Bell holiday party sex party orgy? What? Who did that? Who threw up in the guacamole bowl? We're also going to find out how an absolute legend grifted Netflix to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and turned himself into a crypto king. He lost a lot. He made a lot. And of course, we're not talking about that guy.

We're talking about the old dead guy. I lived in 99 and just barely made it Charlie Munger, the ghost of money's past and Christmas future. RIP to the biggest ghoul. I've We're also going to find out the real meaning of Black Friday What does it mean to you And us Hit the intro

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discounts we're also going to be probably I think next week we're doing a stoned episode that's right I will be imbibing substance and I don't want to say it because I don't want to get flag but great I'll be I'll be doing something so next week yeah yeah when we say a stoned episode we I mean, we're going to invite the entire town over. We're going to tie Ben to my neck. To a post. And throw rocks at me. And I've gotten a bunch of rocks I'm going to be giving to all the towns people.

Well, that'd be one hell of a stoned episode, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't look forward to it. But we got to do it anyway. Remember that story about the old guy who just kept going, more weight? Yeah, not the old guy. It was like a, he was like a famous, they were his famous last words. Yeah, but it was a long. time ago. Oh, yeah, yeah. An old

time ago guy, sure. Yeah. Speaking to old guys, we got some bad news, everybody. Really bad news. I'm not laughing. I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable. Our dear friend of the show and was once both of our mentors. Yes. A famous

ghoul, a living ghoul. Live to be 99 years old. What a loser. What a quitter. Charlie Munger. Insert the graphic black and white something or not Sarah McLaughlin Yeah

In the arms Stop Yep Can't do it more than that So if you're new to the show First of all welcome But we We make fun of that guy

Pretty regularly Because he's just He's a funny son of a bit And he's also a billionaire So And I think I don't think he was ever married And being 99

I truly have to wonder A fact check that I'm really sorry but when's the last time you think this guy had sex? He was married twice? He was married twice? Well, damn, I sit corrected. Yeah, but when did he divorce the last time?

2010. Oh, shit. They had 13 years of peaceful bliss, if you know what I'm saying? Yeah, my godly. Well, in honor of his dying, he was a maniac and a very calm maniac, but I'd like to play this 30-second clip. Damn, this dude is so old. His first divorce was in 1953. Jesus, God.

Wow, okay, yeah. He married two Nancy's, by the way, too. Oh, that's insane. That's how old he is. That's insane. Both his wives were named Nancy. By the way, I just got to say, since two of the people on my bingo card for deaths were Charlie Munger and Diane Feinstein, you know who the third is, right? Damn, this mother was, he was fucking, like, 34 days away from being a hundred.

Yeah. Do you know who my other big name is on my death card? Jeff Bezos. No. Oh. Think old. Jack Nicholson No

Think politics Dark Brandon Warren BD Oh Polity Well he was in Bulls Joe Byron man Oh

That's an easy one Yeah I know it's an easy one But I'm just saying It's gonna happen Probably soon Anyway Let's play this clip of Charlie Munger if you don't know

He was He's like Warren Buffett's Best friend Butt boy But boy And he I wouldn't go that far Yeah they're partners

They're partners And he loved, one of Charlie Munger's favorite things was to talk shit on the crypto markets. So I'll just play this clip because it's too good. Currently has no intrinsic value. And so I regard the whole business is antisocial, stupid, immoral. Immoral? Yes, immoral. Why?

Why would you trade? Suppose you could make a lot of money trading freshly harvested baby brains. Would you do it or would you say that's immoral? You wouldn't trade them, would you? It's too, too awful a concept. Well, to me, Bitcoin is almost as bad. So there you have it, folks. Bitcoin almost as bad as trading harvested baby brains to Charlie Munger.

Almost as bad. There is one quote from him that I really like that someone just shared on Twitter, which is you don't have a lot of envy, you don't have a lot of resentment. You don't overspend your income. You stay cheerful in spite of your troubles. You deal with reliable people, and you do what you're supposed to do. It's a good quote. He definitely was a, I mean, he really did look like he was already halfway dead.

It is crazy that there were probably all sorts of germs and microbes in his body, just absolutely ready, waiting to just devour him, and they're already getting, oh, man. They're feasting on him. They're already taking care of the Nancy's, though. Oh, yeah, are both his, Nancy's dead? Yeah. Oh, damn. Unfortunately.

RIP to those nancies. RIP to the former first lady, what's her name, Carter? Nancy Pelosi. Rosalind Carter? Yep. She's dead, right? She dead. Yeah.

Well, all right, enough sad news. Enough of the in-memorium. Let's get to what you people really came here for, which is the Taco Bell sex party. Oh, we're doing Taco Bell sex party before. Yeah, why not, man? Okay. Taco Bell sex party. Taco Bell sex party.

this is a bit of local news for us because it took place here in Los Angeles and this is from KTLA 5 and I gotta just I gotta just read this to you Emil I gotta just let you react to it because it's too good so it's this woman Alana Beckiam

Beckiam I don't know how to say that but I'll just say Beckium so she filed a lawsuit last week alleging that her supervisor invited her to a December 18th, 2022 party at a San Pedro Taco Bell. San Pedro is a city in south of L.A. County. Sounds pretty nice so far. If you can get locked up for inviting someone to a Christmas party,

then lock me up. Yeah. She was encouraged to bring food for a potluck-style buffet, and her contribution was a bowl of guacamole. Once she arrived, she discovered that her supervisor had covered the windows of the restaurant with wrapping paper. Festive? And also covered the security cameras

for the lobby of the inside of the restaurant. Curious, she thought. So far, I like that. You don't want to be, we don't need this getting back to corporate. What happens at the San Pedro Taco Bell holiday party? Stays at the San Pedro Taco Bell holiday party. Well, she claimed that her supervisor provided alcohol to everybody,

several of whom were, quote, overserved. Good party host so far? Yes. Around midnight, she stepped outside for a short time. Doesn't say why. What do you think she did? Blasted a cigarette? Probably.

She probably absolutely blasted. The way things were going in that blacked-out Taco Bell. Yeah. Well, she walked- The security cameras block. She walked back into the restaurant and she saw a co-worker having sex with his wife in front of everyone at the party. Who else is he supposed to have sex with? Yeah, but then the co-worker's wife who this guy was having sex with was also kissing her female manager and another female coworker at the same time.

Incredibly hot. That's fucking awesome. So I'm actually going to This guy's plugging his own wife While his wife is making out with two other women I'm going to try to apply to the San Pedro Apply for a job at the San Pedro Taco Bell party real quick Oh I thought that you were gonna

I thought that you were gonna plug it into like an AI thing To give you a visual No no I'm just seen if they have any openings And then since everybody's new trend is Because you figure the 2023 holiday parties right around the corner Yes Although after reading well it continues So she alleges that she first ran

out of the restaurant what a fucking prude and then she went she forgot about her guacamole bowl she can't leave that you can't leave your guacamole bowl behind especially with what's going on that taco bell so she ran back inside only to find that her manager and the other co-worker involved in the sexual encounter were vomiting one one threw up in the trash while the other threw up in her guacamole bowl so uh that sucks for her and so then she so she she ends up quitting And then, or no, she ends up complaining to corporate. Corporate fired everybody involved. And then she got threatened and had, like, her car window shattered.

We've got a bit of a snitches get stitches. Yeah, no kidding. These people are horny and they're unpredictable. But I just thought that you would appreciate that. Oh, I appreciate it. Because it's, I mean, how often do you get a Taco Bell sex party? That's what the pay pigs holiday party is going to look like. When's the last time you ate at Taco Bell?

It might have just been once. One time in your life. Yeah. What did you order? I don't even remember. We were driving up to... That's insane to me. I think it was Boston.

We were going up to Boston from New York. And I was with a friend. And it said like Taco Bell on the fucking rest there. You know, it says, like yeah yeah here's the shit we got yeah gas taco bell toilet my friend was like damn taco bell would be good huh i was like i don't i never had it and they were like you gotta get taco bell i can't believe you got and then i was like i think it's just gonna make me sick so we got the fucking taco bell and then i was like it doesn't taste that good and then did you throw up or you

threw up no no no shit yeah i was like my stomach feels so bad when uh when i was like i don't eat that again. When I was a kid, my brothers and I used to, I don't even remember where we got money from. But if we ever had a couple bucks, we'd ride our bikes down to the local Taco Bell and one time, we were parking our bikes where we usually did in the garbage area. You parked it in the garbage area. Yeah, there's a little sectioned off area for the garbage bins. And we noticed this big metal barrel and it had the lid half off. And we were curious, so we looked at it, and it was full of, I don't know, grease, kitchen grease, or it looked like old nacho cheese or something.

And we were mortified and grossed out, and then we just said, well, let's go get Taco Bell. We went inside anyway. And we got what I always ordered anyway, which was a chicken cassidia with a side of nacho cheese. also every time my family went to that Taco Bell which was very often and we'd do the drive-thru they would forget something out of the...

They would always fucking forget something and it drove my dad nuts to the point where he'd go, well, I'm not coming back. I'm not going back there. No, I'm not... And then the next week it'd be like, well, let's go to Taco Bell. I'm going to check the order this time

in the drive-thru, so we'd check... How'd that go? Sometimes inevitably he would still miss something because they always... And they always fucked things up. But those were good memories, those. When's the last time you went to Taco Bell? I honestly don't remember.

I think the last time I had Taco Bell was easily 15 years ago. Holy shit. But we're going to do a video on that, aren't we? I'm going to subject myself to... Maybe you'll just tag along and watch. I want to go to every fast food restaurant that I haven't been to in many, many years and just order shit. Like, McDonald's, get a Big Mac. Burger King, a Whopper.

Carl's Jr., big Carl. I'll come for the sex parties. Yeah, you'll come for the sex parties. Taco Bell, I'll probably get a grilled stuffed burrito because that's what I used to get. Jack in the box, Monster Tacos. Anyway, our other big flagship story is... This is what I really want to talk about.

The guy who... We're going to be talking about Carl, Eric Rinch. Rinch, Carl Rinch. You know him. Everybody knows this guy. You remember 47 Ronan? The Rinch who stole Christmas? He stole millions of dollars.

The Rinch who stole $55 million? Oh man. I just, I really love this guy. He is as, so let's just start with this. Who is this fucking guy? Let's start with that. Yeah, he's a guy. He grew up in L.A., San Fernando Valley boy.

He, you know, He started, he had an interest in filmmaking from a young age. He started shooting stuff when he was a teenager. And then he ended up going to Brown University. And then he comes back to L.A. to work with Ridley Scott. Everyone knows Ridley Scott. In what capacity? He worked for Ridley Scott.

He worked for his production company, but was also working closely with Ridley Scott and learning more about filmmaking. Gets his big break, how? well even before i just want to note that even uh even as a young man he apparently had a bit of a quirky side he'd like to like to make up stories about himself like uh so pretty normal upbringing right just the san fernando valley kid but he always liked to say he would he would tell tall tales about his childhood claiming that he grew up in africa and that his father was a spy and uh while living at the huntley hotel in santa monica for a stretch he insisted that the staff

cover every inch of his room in white sheets so he had some So he was an eccentric He was an artist A bit of an eccentric But yeah And then so he was always making You know commercials And stuff like that

With the production company And then he made a short For Phillips The electronics company Yeah And that got him a lot of attention And he ended up Getting an offer to direct

47 Ronan Starring Keanu Reeves And it tanked at the box office It was a Christmas release Because you could people Wouldn't go see I remember seeing I remember seeing the trailer

and shit and thinking, oh, it's Keanu Reeves kicking ass as a ninja or something. I should go see that, but then I had other plans. Something got in the way. Something came up. That was a long time ago. What does it have a rotten tomatoes, by the way? That's a great question. 16%.

16%. He was maybe just a bit ahead of his time. You know what I mean? He saw the, he saw that we all wanted Keanu Reeves kicking ass. We just didn't know in what capacity. And then John Wick came along. He didn't let it get him down. We can say that because...

I'll tell you what. This guy doesn't let him. He doesn't let anything get him down, which is what I love about him. So let's fast forward a few years, and he starts working on this, he starts working on his own new sci-fi project, and he's, with a combination of his own money and the money of some investors who believed in him, he starts shooting what's essentially a proof of concept for a new sci-fi thriller that he's got. He's all about artificial intelligence. Organic intelligence. Organic intelligence is why I say. OI.

But what was the name? What was the name of the project? I can't remember. Well, so it started as, it started as OI, but it later becomes conquest. Right. And it's about these organic intelligence. They're like human-like species. And then the humans eventually catch on.

But they're deployed to trouble spots around the globe to provide humanitarian aid. So he, this part, man, it really pisses me off because what you got to understand is that five, six years ago when streaming was really taking off and Netflix was basically giving money to anybody with a pulse and a script and or a proof of concept. Yeah, this is the stuff we were making fun of in that Netflix episode a while ago. And I love it. I almost think he like knew Netflix is going to fucking buy anything. And so yeah, he makes this proof of concept where he's like self-financing, gets in a bit

of finance trouble, has to come get more financing from other people. people borrow more money. I think Keanu even steps in and gives him a little cash injection. He goes to Amazon first, right? No, no. This is... Or they came to him. He films it himself.

He films, I believe, six episodes that are anywhere from four to ten minutes long. And it's already fucking nuts. Okay? So he knows it's going to be expensive. He's using European actors and crew members to... Is it cheaper? Yep, cheaper. Can get around Hollywood, pesky union rules.

You know what I mean? And apparently the whole thing is just awful schedules, early shoots. There was one day he made everyone shoot for 24 hours straight. Right on. Cool. I mean, that's how you get the best acting, right? One woman, tired actors. One of the lead actresses got hypothermia because he had her standing bare-legged in snow for a very long shoot.

Cool. That's not cool. I don't think that's a good idea. you got to leave it you got to leave it all on the line for your vision but that's the best part he was doing all of this for six six episodes which is essentially like four to ten minutes it's barely a fucking web series yeah well but his hard work paid off his hard work paid off because yeah the you had all these this content race where all of these people were interested in this in this story and yeah amazon was originally going to give him uh they said it was an eight figure deal and he was like all right fuck wait that's how much that's uh like over 10 million dollars anywhere from 10 to 99 million dollars yeah yeah and and then Netflix got winded that and they were like no fuck that we'll give you even more money more than that and so they did and we'll give you final cut yeah because we love how fucking kooky you are yes and final cut is a big deal with with projects on Netflix because at the

time and i think still to this day it's very rare that studios and streamers will give just full creative control to their directors and writers and stuff. So it's also important to note there was no completed script at this point. Right. So they just had this fucking... At any point throughout any of this.

There was never... There were completed scripts for individual episodes, but the entire series was still very much up in the air. But so it was actually a pretty big deal that Netflix bought it because, according to them, they thought that it was going to be potentially the next stranger thing. They thought that they believed in him that much.

They believed in the idea that much. So keep that in mind when we're talking about just how crazy this guy was. I still believe in him that much. I want to see the online. I kind of want to see it, too. From the twisted mind of Carl Grinch. So part of the deal was that they bought the rights. Netflix buys the rights to this guy's series.

They agreed to pay him $61.2 million in installments. commensurate with him reaching certain production benchmarks. And he basically didn't meet any of them. However, Netflix was giving him the money. Right. I mean, he's shooting stuff. He starts shooting. And they're shooting in Brazil, Uruguay, Montevideo, Budapest.

There's all kinds of crazy stories coming out. They're dispatching union reps to set because they're saying he's mistreating everybody, shouting at them cursing something called excessive irritation. Yeah, that was in Brazil. In Brazil, apparently he was so off the charge and nuts that cast and crew were complaining. And then in Budapest is... Love this. Budapest is where it gets crazy for me because he went days without sleep and then accused

his wife, his own wife, who was like a model, by the way. His wife was a model. But like everyone's a model. I looked her up. Sure, yeah. She's got like 7,000 followers on Instagram. Okay, so she's a liar in a bitch. She's like a model and, uh, what's it called?

Fashion designer. Okay, yeah. Okay. Well, so she was, she was, uh, helping out on this project because she was a producer. She was, she worked on this project with it. Apparently this is their brainchild. Well, so him being sleep deprived, he begins to think that she's plotting to assassinate him.

Pretty sick. But I mean. Who's to say she wasn't? I, well, so as I'm reading this, so the default. So, by the way, with all of this, they have leaked text messages. They have testimony from casting crew. And a lot of it's coming from their... The divorce file itself.

Yeah. So in the divorce file, the divorce file, it says that he was doing classic white boy shit. He was punching walls. He was throwing shit. But Rinch's defense was that he has autism and ADHD, so you really can't blame him. I mean, autistic people do. punch walls and throw shit and his ADHD dictates that he basically can't be held accountable which is what we've learned over the last few years hey don't be mad at me I got autism

in ADHD and and he was taking massive doses of vivance he was taking so this was the biggest it's always amphetamates it's always prescription amphetamines the thing is that these are have you ever taken viamance yes it fucking whips vivance for the day have you taken vivism yes prescribed it for a minute I was too so folks If you don't know... Oh, those blue and red bad boys? Yes. No, no, I took...

Orange baddies. I took blue and white. Mine were 50 milligrams. Dude, I think blue and red are the 75s. Holy God. Okay, so folks out there, if you don't know, uh, Adderall is amphetamine, right?

And it's... Oh, 70. It's a cousin to meth amphetamine. And, uh, it's basically manufactured meth. And Vivance is like, um, Adderall, but supercharged. It's all the craziest parts.

All the worst parts of Adderall, Vibance does perfectly. It's like... Oh, it's so fucking clean. It's so fucking awful. We got 70 milligrams, course, and three of it. I'll put it in you this way. It's a higher high and a lower low.

That's why you just take it. You just keep taking it. Never come down, baby. I remember being on... I remember being high. Vibance is what fueled my 17-hour Halo 3 online bids. No, I took the fifth.

That's the real shit. Which were basically, yeah, that sounds like, that sounds terrifying to me. If I were to take a Vivance now, I think I would probably have a heart attack. That's when I was really doing the, with the 70s, I would, I would have to drink like a pitcher of beer just to go to bed. Awful. I remember when I was in the midst of taking VIVA, because I was tiptoeing my way around eventually getting my psychiatrist to prescribe me just straight Adderall. So I, I was playing the long game. At first I went in and I'm like, I get a little bit of trouble paying attention.

engine in the school and she was like okay how about uh concerta and i was like yeah sure that sounds nice whatever that is concerted it's like the pussy's shit it's it's just like it's like it's like flintstone vitamin it barely gives you any kind of feel you're just like yeah i guess things are cool conservative's bitch made yeah so i was on it for a month

because i i did legitimately try it i was like all right maybe i'm gonna uncover something cool here and i tried it for about a month and then I went back to the doctor, and I told the truth. I was like, it, you know, it didn't, what else you got? And she said, okay, how about, I can't remember the other one. I think it started with an O. I tried something else. Ritalin?

Dextra, dextro, dextroanphetamine. It's like similar to amphetamine. But it was okay. It kind of did the trick, but I just, I tried it again for like a month, two months, and I said, you know, I don't really know. I just feel like something's missing. You know, my friend has this amphetamine salt thing that's really. And she said, no, let's try one more thing.

And I was like, fuck. And then she said, okay, how about Vivance? And I've rolled my eyes because I had no idea what it was. And she prescribed me 50 milligrams. And it was like, I was just, I mean, I, folks, I legitimately thought that I could become president of the United States in college. like oh i got it i got it i was smoking weed and like playing halo and just just like i could do this and are you still just looking at the fucking what are you fantasizing of it i'm just

folks he's just looking at the at the wikipedia page i have this i have this picture of uh i can find it where i just had it because i had so many v vans and adderals and i was like so stoked i was like yes i'm fucking because i wasn't prescribed i was getting it through where I remember just a bunch I was like those are the good ones because I had I had Adderall 20s and tens and then I had Vivian 70s and something else Jesus Christ is there is there a statute of limitations to admitting to a federal crime on a podcast he was kidding no no me what was your federal crime my selling prescription medication I think you're going to be all right you're kidding oh yeah well I'm just kidding when I say that I used to sell the Adderall

and I was selling them for oh sorry, good call, good call, thank you, thank you. I was selling them for three pills for 20 bucks. That's a great deal. Thank you. I thought so too. But then I was in the study hall and I'm just like zoinked out of my mind writing an essay or something and these kids behind me are talking about

Adderall and they're talking about like the 10 milligram ones that they're buying and I'm just sitting there and going these guys have no idea that I'm the king of this town You know I wasn't that is the one who knocks I was very much not and the president But I heard him go the other guy go how much do you buy him for? And he goes 10 bucks a pill For the 10 milligram ones and I had the 30 milligram ones that I was selling for essentially a little over six dollars. Oh shit you had the 30s? Yeah I just wanted to get rid of them I'm just like I yeah Yeah, I just want to... Yeah, the 30s, like, ruined a couple days for me where it was like... Yeah, I don't know how I existed.

You don't sleep. Oh, yeah, no. My day consisted of waking up late because I was up so late on Adderall and then thinking, that's okay, I'll just take Adderall to wake up, and then I wake up, but it fully hits around 2 p.m. Yeah. And then I'm up until midnight, and I think, oh, I got to smoke weed to go to sleep, and then you sleep in because of the weed. Anyway, all that's to say...

This guy zoosked up on fivance. And he was, he sounds like, he sounds like the type of guy who like me, this shit is not good for you. And he's doing, he's doing full amphetamine mania. Truly. Like, like, which when you're in the throes of it, it feels so good. It feels terrible. You feel angry. You feel like everything sucks.

No, you're in control. You got this. Your wife is trying to kill you. She's trying to slow you down. She's got to be taken out. She wants your Netflix money. So he's wigging out. He's in Budapest.

They stage an intervention. They stage an intervention. Guess who shows up. Keanu Reeves. He does? They're buds from 47 Roots. Shit. And, well, he basically says, you guys are wrong and nothing's wrong with me.

I'm fine. And Keanu says, via condios, brother. Even then, even then, what's his name? Carl got, they reached out to Carl for this, for this interview, and he declined. All he said was, um, he said the, article would say that i lost my mind i did not that's that was his only comment yeah yeah just saying no i'm not going to comment on it good for him you're just going to say that i lost my mind i did not but right so he agrees to get a uh he agrees to have like a sober partner who's

going to be keeping him sober living with him uh i believe he kicks him out after like a couple days well yeah it sounds like a fucking narc again i cannot stress this enough you cannot keep this guy down okay so here's the thing meanwhile he's he's pestering netflix for more money this is march of 2020 he's missing milestones but he's calling them up saying you owe me money they've given they've already spent 44 million dollars there's no real complete script he's still deciding between two paths he wants to take the show in right and one of them is he needs to know if he's going to get a second season or not because he needs to tell the story fully right this guy fucking frogs i can appreciate that where it's like okay if the story goes one way i can finish it but i have an idea

for it to go this other way and if we do that i'm going to need more money to not only continue on this route but then they're after for a second season and they're going Netflix is kind of going on we gave you 44 million dollars right so they send him 11 million they well they don't want to they're like we're not going to give you anything we've already given you 44 million dollars you're fucking nuts you need to give us something and he said if you don't give me more money I swear to God, I'll kill myself. You won't have anything. I'll take all these bills.

No, but that was basically, he said, if you don't give me more money, I'm going to, the whole thing's going to implode. You're going to get no return. You need to give it to me so I can complete this thing. Otherwise, you get nothing.

Right. Because it's just going to all fucking collapse. So they all get together and go, shit he's right now. And they wire him $11 million fucking dollars. And what is he, so my favorite, this is when it gets really fun. This is what?

So they sent him $11 million. And I don't know if you good folks remember, but in March of 2020, the market, the stock market, tanked. And then it proceeded to absolutely fucking rally. Well, he puts 10 and a half, a lot of people were trading back then. Like people who had never traded in there. It was very much like the late 90s.com boom. So Carl, our friend Carl, was one of those people.

He took 10.5 million of the 11 million. Which is so funny because, like, what was the, half a million do he was like let me just be safe here let's keep a half a million nest egg here so he sent it to his personal account at charles schwab and within just a couple weeks he lost almost six million dollars playing options gambling on options um and then there's some there's some of the original executives at netflix get shuffled around so all of a sudden all the people who were responsible for hiring him are gone wait before we got they have some of his wagers which i think are funny one of his wagers was that shares of the biotech firm

Gilead Sciences, which had announced that it was testing an antiviral drug on COVID patients would soar. Another was that the S&P 500 index, which had already declined more than 30% would fall further. Mr. Rinch lost $5.9 million in a matter of weeks. His timing, man. You can't keep a good man down, though.

Okay? So, the original executives leave. He starts emailing crazy shit about coronavirus to... Oh, we got to give the details on this, though. In the following months he behaved more erratically like many people he was deeply affected by the pandemic and he espoused strange theories about the coronavirus according to text messages and emails when miss roses his wife went to check on him in june 2020 he took her to a scenic lookout in the hollywood hills

and pointed at planes overhead they were organic intelligent forces that came to say hi he told her so he believed that he's pointed at airplanes saying check it out wife those are organic Those are organic intelligence forces that came to say hi. He also sent her text claiming that he could predict lightning strike. Wait, wait. He also sent her text claiming that he could predict lightning strikes and volcanic eruptions. That's fucking, that is Vivance brain. That's like,

whereas my Vivance brain was texting my neighbor Andy saying, Hey, bitch, you want to play Scrabble and smoke cigarettes? And we would for four hours. His was, I can predict lightning strikes. No, but you do start to feel. like you're like tapping into a higher. You're like, I'm tapping into a... Yeah, why do you think I thought I could become president? I'm tapping into a higher vibration. Like, I can feel lightning. I can feel lightning in the air and I could feel a volcanic eruption from miles away. He also said,

so this is when he was, so he's emailing this new head of strategic business decisions at, this poor woman at Netflix has no idea what's going on. He's emailing her saying that he knows where uh where coronavirus transmission mechanism is so he's like not only has he cracked the code for lightning and volcanoes but he's also figured out coronavirus he claimed among other things to have found to found a way to map the coronavirus signal emanating from within the earth man it was coming dude this guy is fucking feeling the call was coming from within the house there's a all along he was also sending the head of original content at the time Cindy Holland he was sending her text messages containing bizarre doodles and incomprehensible annotations.

Man, dude, that's like I knew a guy, uh, geez, yeah, when, when, when you're going off the rails like that, you just, it sounds like he was probably speaking in riddles and just talking in, in nonsense terms. But important to note, Netflix execs did contact the LAPD, uh-huh, the threat management unit. And they just said, and they said, that is a guy just vibing out. you need to leave me let him cook maybe give him more money as they say maybe given millions of more dollars uh yeah but they looked at all the text and emails and they said no threat to himself

or to others yeah and we say maybe let's see if he really can predict lightning yeah well so the next year in march of 2021 Netflix just said all right we're done we're done funding this we're done giving you any money you are free to shop it elsewhere but if someone picks it up elsewhere, they've got to pay us, they've got to reimburse us for what we've already dumped into this thing. So he gets pissed. He says, listen, I am of sound body and mind because that was their concern that he was very much not. He says explicitly, I am of sound body in mind. He transfers $4 million. So what does he do? He goes and gambles more. I cannot state this any clear. You cannot keep a good man down. This guy is bulletproof, baby. Four million dollars

puts into his cracking account. And for those who don't remember, Crackin is a crypto exchange. And he buys none other than Dogecoin. Oh, and a lot of you are probably out there thinking, oh, another crypto loser. Wrong. He's fucking, he makes $23 million.

27 million. 27. Well, minus the four. Yes, yes. He turned the $4 million into $27. How you like that for a return? It fucking rules. Like, how awesome does that feel?

Let the man cook. What does he do? What does he do? He's on Vivance. What else do you do when you just made $27 million? He bought five Rolls Royces, a Ferrari, and a $387,000 Vaturan Constantine Watch. Millions of dollars, about $8.7 million worth of high-end furniture and designer clothing. God damn.

We got to read his little message to a Cracken, an online chat with a Cracken representative when he wins his 27 million. Thank you, and God bless Crypto. Hell yes, Pimp. I did not know that he said that to someone. That's awesome. Thank you and God. He was chatting to a Cracken representative. Thank you and God bless crypto.

Just zud it out of his mind. Well, so then his divorce proceeds. His estranged wife's attorneys allege that he's buying all of these high-end things, cars and stuff, to hide. his considerable wealth from her so that she can't take it or whatever to make it more difficult to quantify he says that he's bought it all because uh it's for the show it's for the show oh yeah that whole time he was saying these were uh show expenses he needed this he needed this stuff for props uh set amazing so but then simultaneously in netflix's arbitration deal with him that they're going through they're alleging hey that money is that that's ours and he says well no it's my money

because it's Netflix money that you gave me so it's all mine he's also saying that they still owe him $14 million that's the best part is that he says they're still basically they're all still in arbitration right now a decision has yet to be made but he is alleging that Netflix actually still owes him money which is just an absolute king move that fucking rocks that hey I blew all your money I didn't even give you a show i ended up gambling some of it away then winning it all back by gambling on a fucking dog cryptocurrency by the way you still owe me 14 million dollars god so if he's out there watching somehow the problem what you come on this show oh i that's my thing like we're we're the we're the real losers in all this because we don't get to see conquest yeah okay

you Netflix and all these companies are afraid to take a risk on a on a visionary do you you ever hear the stories about like in the 70 like uh david bowie for example i think it's station to station he was so coked out the entire time he like doesn't remember making it oh oh the whole album yeah and it's like let my man let my man cook if if netflix were smart they would offer to end the arbitration and give him the 14 million dollars in exchange he will do a documentary about himself and about this entire thing and they can recoup their somewhat their investment. By the way, just on that, on that note, to that end, Disney recently announced that they are going to be focused more on quality rather than quantity.

Oh, interesting way to make content, Disney. That's what everybody's funny, because that's what everybody, it's like admitting that, oh, yeah, we've just been focused on shoveling dog shit in your children's mouths and hoping that they'll eat it and like the smell, but now, now we're actually going to focus on making good shit. That's what I do when I'm playing tennis. I'm getting my ass kicked. I go, I'm going to start focusing on playing good now. So it's, it's endemic to the entire streaming system, which was at first, it was all about let's just make a bunch of shit hoping to get people to sign up. And okay, now we've maximized that. I guess now we got to try to like make.

good shit to keep them there. And you know one way to do that? To get your creators hooked on fucking stimulants. Oh yeah, man. That's actually a really good idea. We should maybe do like our last year. Maybe we're just either coked out or doing amphetamines. They should do, they should do, uh, Netflix should give a million. Like if you really want to just give a million dollars, like, take $10 million

dollars, give a million to, to 10 groups of filmmakers from all sorts of different, I don't I don't know, parts of the country or something, and say, hey, you got a million dollars to make whatever you want. And then, like, everybody votes on it or something. And if you want to blow it, if you want to blow the money on something, you are free to do so. Just film yourself doing it. That would be so fucking cool. God, I wish cameras were rolling when this guy was in throes of it. I'm so glad that cameras weren't rolling when I was going through the throes of it, because it would just be me smoking cigarettes, jerking off plain halo.

No, but that's what I'm saying. Now we could have the cameras rolling while we are in throws of it. Think about where we could take the show if we had just enough Vi-Vans or Coke or whatever. We could make our station a station. That's what's holding me back. Do you want it? If you can get a hold of some Vivance and force it down my throat, I will do an episode on Vivant. It'll be just, it'll just be me waiting to talk.

It'll be the best episode of all. I think that this was the best one we've ever done. It will feel like that after, but yeah, if we watch it. I'm so horny, but my dick is just like asleep. It won't wake up. No matter how, my dick, it'll just, it'll just devolve into talking about sex and women and, which will rock. I think we'll stay laser focused, man. On whatever, on, really, you think so?

We might make a hit album. I don't know what'll happen. Yeah, you just start scatting. Scatman, what's his, Carruthers, what was his name? Scatman, John. I don't know, but can I say, not to get fully off topic here, but I didn't. didn't fully grasp when we were doing the Ben and Emile on Thanksgiving. If you haven't seen it yet,

go back and watch Ben and Meal on. Or watch all of them. Yeah. We just did Ben and Emil on being a boy. We forgot to do that. Did you GoPro out of batteries? I don't know. Wait, what's your shit? I keep tapping my hand. Sorry. I didn't fully grasp the fact that, even though

you told me while it was happening, I didn't fully grasp the fact that Bobby Badfingers was like such a big deal. He wasn't a big deal. No, I didn't either tell I was looking it up. Yeah, he was putting, like, the YouTube clips behind us of him, like, on... Yeah, yeah. No, yeah.

He, he had his moments. What? He, like, fully put albums out and stuff. He... Shit, really? Oh, I don't know. It seemed bad. Yeah, there was one about him, like, getting off Adderall.

I sort of got. I put it in the background. You said my dad's ADD, and then I put the album... Oh, yeah, yeah. Bobby Badfingers? It was like a Christmas. I'm not on Adderall anymore. Bobby Bad Figgars.

Yeah, he's a character. Former RV citizen. Oh, yeah, my struggle with Adderall addiction. Oh, geez, that explains so much that Bobby Badfingers was on Adderall. We should get him on here. I hope he's alive. Dude, he's got to come along for our last year. A year?

I got to do Adderall for a year is what you're telling me? Another year of my life? If things are going well, we'll do... I truly can't imagine what it must be like to take Adderall. Like at this, at my age, having my experience with it, knowing that that high that you feel isn't real. It rocks. It's the same thing still. It doesn't.

When I first took it, it was six hours of pure heavenly bliss. Everything is awesome. Everything is interesting. And then the more you take it, the more that window just shrinks and shrinks and shrinks. Until finally, toward the end, I would take it. I'd feel good for all of 20 minutes. And then it would just be six hours of just fucking everything. Wait, I've got to get a picture of Dylan.

He's got a great GoPro mark on the head. First time I did by Vance, I studied music theory in college because I had an F in the class. And I studied it so hard and I got so passionate about it that I remember taking the test and be like, oh, fuck, I can't really remember everything, but I think it did pretty good. And he like wrote me. He's like, the amount of dedication you put into this. I was like, okay, bye, man, it's great. You do start tapping into a higher vibrations.

I remember my friend was in med school, and he's from New Jersey, also a big Bruce Springsteen guy. And he started, it must have been like either December or, you know, May when finals are happening. But I'm getting texts about like, he's making connections in Bruce Springsteen songs and texting me. And I'm like, dude, how much Adderall are you taking? He's like tons. I, my fondest Vivance memory is I was in symbolic logic, which is a very, it's like language math. and it was so hard that very first class I thought there's no way in hell I'm going to understand this fast forward to me doing homework on Fridays I was fully unstoppable and I I was tutoring other kids in the

class just because I liked it so much and I could I had cracked the code you the professor could put up whatever equate and I eventually figured it out I was just that good and there was this one test I had to make up for it because I was sick and me and some other student who was also sick had to go to my professor's office hours and take the test and as I finish it and I do there's two bonus questions two extra credit questions

that are like extra hard I got them and I knew it and I was so kind I was like I double checked my work I got an A plus on this so when I stand up and hand it to him I just go I drop it on the desk and I go A plus

and when he comes back the next week the next week when he comes around my professor loved me because he loved how dedicated I was to it next week he comes around he's handing out, everybody's walking around, handing everybody's test to him, he comes up to me and he holds it up to his chest, he looks at me, A plus, and he drops it down. It was so great.

And I was like, whoa! Yeah. I do wish the audio listener could see how proud of Ben is, of himself right now. I asked, my professor ended up saying, hey, you know, you're really good at this, and clearly you've got a love for it. Substance abuse issue. I said, yeah, too bad there's nothing you can do. with this he said no this is basically pre-calculus you should you should take a calculus course and i just went man that's fucking lame fuck you and i love i didn't say that i didn't say that wow but i just was like i'm not doing math through that you could have been good ben hunting oh man yeah shit can you imagine me can you imagine can you i'm trying to but i can't get past

What am I trying to do? I'd be a good janitor? Yeah, toilets to be clean as hell. That is true. I would be a good janitor. You would keep the bathroom spotless. You know who's got filthy bathrooms, surprisingly? In and out.

Every time I go into an in-and-out bathroom, I'm like, what the fuck is going on in here? The girlfriend counter is now going to become the toilet counter. Yeah, that's true. All right. Speaking of toilets and whatnot and old-time stuff, Black Friday just happened. and do we know the etymology there why do they call it Black Friday because it's a dark time

because it's like a dark time consumerism yeah he's Googling it he's Googling it audio listener by the way I just got to give a shout out to the audio listener you are there Paul if you're listening because Paul McCartney that's Paul McCartney we're talking about Paul Simon that's Paul Simon

that's right the audio listener man what a what a an absolute stuff you are you you you keep this show you are the spirit of this show and and the audio list or the video in the youtube watcher you're fucking awesome too oh my god it is believed by many that the term black friday derives from the concept that business operate at a financial loss or in the red until the day after thanksgiving when massive sales finally allowed them to turn profit or put them in the black there you have it who knows though this is all like apocryphal bullshit and actually Nobody really knows, but folks, we used to have actual, people would die on Black Friday.

We used to have a country. We used to have a country where people, I participated in a couple Black Friday. Where if you wanted something cheap, you had to put your goddamn life on the line. You really did. You had to, people would camp out in front of Best Buy, in front of Target, and wait to be let into the, they would camp out all night and be let into the store at 6 in the morning, the buck crack of dawn, just to save money on a TV. but the thing is wasn't it also worse shit they were putting out worse shit

no yes it was back then the deals were legitimate and they were good I think they were I think they were putting out shitty inventory that what's happening now is actually you've got increased consumer awareness and people are now the people are talking to each other

the people are aware they know that it's all bullshit I mean now it's to the point where there's I've seen plenty of videos of people taking the tag at Target and whatnot that says black Friday deal and you remove the tag and behind it is the exact same price that it was just a week ago.

That's not how it used to be. It legitimately used to be, yo, this Sony TV is $1,000, but on Black Friday... Do you think this is a case of you being a child back then? What? No. No way. Back in my day, Black Friday used to mean something.

It did. It did. And I remember camping out a couple times, and it was thrilling because I was... You camped out? Yeah. For what? What did you want?

We bought an entire sound system. We bought a giant TV. We bought... Sony PlayStation 2. I bought a mini-disc player, I think. What kind of deals are we talking? I don't remember, man. 40% off, up to 30% off.

However much, you got a good deal, as what I'm saying. But I used to have such a hard-on for every week looking in the Sunday paper and seeing those color ads for the computer. I remember when they first got the processors up to one gigahertz. For the longest time, it was like 900 megahertz. And I'm like, whoa, they're getting there. there and then one week finally one gigahertz processor what would that mean it just means faster you open you you open things faster now we got those dang m3 chips now you got i don't even know

how many gig but they don't even measure it in gigahertz anymore because it's pointless be off the charts it'd be so up legitimate well now the ram speed is like eight gigahertz but sorry i to clear my throat but i will say so the you know how much we spent on blackfire Friday, we as a community, as a society. Americans. Americans, $9.8 billion. And what was astonishing to me was $5.3 billion of that was done

entirely on mobile. But that's what I understand. I don't feel comfortable with that. Yeah. Okay. That's the other thing. Just go on fucking line. Everyone's...

You mean on a laptop? No, just... Oh. I thought you meant, like, in contrast to doing it all on mobile. But who's going to the store on Friday? Just, they got all the deals online. Yeah, literally everything is online. Are you an idiot?

Maybe you want it now. Maybe you want it now now. I want the TV now. The TVs are so cheap now. Between TVs and cars, who's buying these shits? Like, you buy, I've had my TV for five years. It's fine. I've had my car.

Are you watching grainy ass shit? No, I'm not watching grainy shit. You wish bad. No, my TV looks good. Fuck both of you. It looks good. Me and Dylan went over to watch a movie and we were like, can't even make out what the fuck's going on. Man, you can make out all you want.

Yeah, well, guess what? You're wrong. Well, so also, there's this, there was a, did you see that Joe Biden made a speech to corporations? Yeah. And you know what he said? Give the American consumer a break. Man, give the consumer a break. He straight up said that.

He said, hey, we know that you guys can charge lower prices. Why aren't you doing it? Huh? Wussies. Pussies. Well, he's pissed off because if they don't, it's going to hurt his chances for re-election. I like this. Consumers feel like they're being played for suckers.

Which they are, he says. he meant they which they are in that they are being played for suckers but it comes across as they are suckers consumers oh oh are being played for suckers yeah his full sentences consumers feel like they're being played for suckers which they are are suckers are being played for a suckers right right right not that they are because i'm not a sucker i'm a good consumer i'm a sucker we are big time i can't i guess by being a consumer you're a loser i guess yeah true i got the meta quest three i'm a big time idiot what's the meta quest oh meta quest yeah yeah are you gonna are you gonna should we get a apple headset for this show

yep i guess huh it's a write-off baby yeah how much is it six thousand dollars i think it's 35 it's 35 but for the two of them seven thousand yeah i'm not getting two we're not getting to play the what play the material is a trap is a trap go down to the bonus that's a good one for the uh for the loser consumer. Jesus, here we go. You've seen this? What is this? No.

Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, Jesus, God. Okay, for the audio listener, this is a girl reacting to receiving the Billy Elish Nike Air Force Ones. What is it? Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh? Oh. Oh, oh. You're making me dizzy. She's making me scared. Oh, those are absolutely gorgeous. It's just a brown shoe.

Yeah, they look like shit. It's just a brown shoe. It looks, it just looks, it's brown. Why is she excited? Because she knows that she can resell it and make a lot of money. No, because it's coveted. She's so stoked that she has the Billy Eilis shoe. There are 20 more seconds of this.

You want me to play them? Yes, I'd like to see it. Does she faint? I haven't seen it. I want her to throw up on the shoe and then it's rendered useless. All right, here we go. Oh, and she's also

she got a T-shirt that she's thrilled about. She got the matching Billy Eilish brown shirt. We're making fun of her, but I imagine there's something. Remember the N64 kid? The video? Yes. The viral video.

That freaky out about getting N-64? Yeah. We were kind of like that. Yeah, I mean, I remember first getting a... Something is particularly gross about this, though. Yeah, because they're Billy Elish brown shoes. Right. N64 was going to give me hours of pleasure.

Also, by the way... Because I was going to fuck the N64. I never had an N64. That's crazy. I know. We would only play at Michael Kaplan's house, and his house always smelled so good. And I would get... His older brother, Brian, was like four years older than me and bigger than me.

and I would beat him at Mario Kart 64 every time and he would get so mad I was legitimately afraid he was going to hit me he would hit his brother all the time and yeah I'd kick his ass and he'd go what the fuck full on like would rage get up and I'm like what's he doing now I think he's a doctor nice yeah I think he I think he's a full on doctor he was a great guy but it was just I just remember thinking like Geez, should I let this older kid beat me just so he won't beat me? Yeah.

Wait, I forgot what I was going to say about. What did you just say? Oh, Billy Eilish. Her music sucks. Why? She whispers. She whispers. You know one song?

And that's what you think her entire music catalog is. I don't know. I listen to a whole album and I'm like, this is just like intentional ASMR music because that's what she knows makes people cream themselves. I don't know anything about her music, but you get shit on every time. You listen to an entire Billy Elish album. What was the album called?

Billy Elish, The Classics. No, it was like her latest one. What's it called, I don't remember? It was like the one that, the most recent one that came out that everybody was going nuts for. And you don't remember one song?

And she used to her going, you don't remember one song? can you name me one song off the uh Barbie Barbie no that's okay that the fuck um Phineas are you just making shit up my brother I don't know man listen her music is fine she can sing whatever I just we're gonna play some Billy Eilish songs in the bonus because this is fucking crazy no we're gonna be answering questions in the bonuses yeah but I need to play I've never I've only heard that one song I'm a bad guy

Oh yeah Wanna fuck your dad guy That's what the lyric is She said something like that Don't fucking I do like that song I like the instrumental I like the instrumental

Because it sounds like a It sounds like a It goes She says something about like wanting to fuck your dad It goes It goes like this Bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo And I think of a really

Really bitchy gay guy Make your mama sad type Make your girlfriend mad tight Badfingers should do a snapping billy out of show yeah Bobby Badfingers was before his time if he was around now doing TikTok take it easy on the goddamn live streams he'd be raking it in he would be raking it in yeah I should I should call him right back to the bad guy lyrics oh yeah I'm the bad type make your mama sad type make your girlfriend mad type might might seduce your dad type oh might seduce your dad I knew it was something like that yeah

Sure. What do you mean, sure? No, yeah, that's... So you like her now? No, I like that song. I do. But everything else, I think, is... I'm going to listen to the entirety of this album, just to prove your album.

Happier than ever. Yeah, that was the name of the album. See, I just remember. No, I pulled it up on. No, I was looking over there. I was looking over there. Yeah, I believe it was happier than ever. Ben is a severe gas lighter.

What? No. We were... I don't know what you're talking about, man. What does that even mean? You don't even know. what that means. You don't know what that word means.

You use it, but I don't think you understand. What's funny is there's, I remember when I first learned what it meant, I thought, there's an entire district in San Diego called that, the gaslight district, but then it's the gas lamp district. Oh, I was trying to gas lamp you. Where is this? I mean, San Diego. Oh.

It's like where all the college kids go and get fucked up and listen to Billy Eilish. Yeah. So I think that that's probably a good spot to end the episode. If you're still here, truly, what the fuck? You're sick. If you're one of those people who does watch us and you've seen us on the thumbnails and you give us a try and you're still here, thank you. Thank you to everybody who does listen.

I sent a message on Patreon last week saying thanks to all the patrons, but to everybody else out there, thanks. because yeah and if you haven't signed up we got a bunch of shit on there man we're gonna be doing we gotta do our movie night soon too yes this way yeah well maybe a Christmas movie oh yeah maybe uh does Robocop have a Christmas movie Oh yeah

Robocop Christmas edition Is Robocop a Christmas movie Because doesn't it like take place during holiday? I think you're thinking die hard Oh yeah That'd be a good holiday We could watch die hard We could watch D hard yeah

Well Oh man RIP to a real one who Robo Cup Bruce Willie Oh yeah Bruce Willie

His body is alive But his body is alive But his brain is not Well I don't know He's mostly alive I think Yeah but his brain is like Much

He doesn't even know who he is I don't think that's true It is true You didn't hear about this No I know Oh But like he's not Is he completely not there

He's got like Yeah he's got like A rare form of Some kind of fucked up Dementia where he's just like I don't know Who he am awful yeah well they were also i mean whatever we can end the episode if they were also what

nobody's listening his family was basically like extending i don't know if it was his family or whoever but like extending his career that's why he was in all those awful movies because he would he just like had a base rate of whatever it was five to ten million dollars and so so we'd show up and just go dude they would shoot you really they would put like an earpiece in his thing and they'd go like get out there bruce and uh wow Wow. I mean, a salute to him because even then, that's really hard to do if you're battling dementia and you're just... I don't think he really fucking knew what he was doing.

I think his family's all. He did seem confused in that Kevin Smith movie. Really? We all seemed confused. Which one of the police one? Yeah. Police? That was like 20 years ago.

No. Oh, yeah, we're old. Yeah. The one with Tracy Morgan? Yeah. Huh. Well, on that note, I'm sorry. See you next time, folks.

Bye.