The Ben and Emil Show - PP 28: The Senate scandal that was buried last week

Episode Date: December 28, 2023

Hope your Christmas was good! A senate aid had some smokin' hot sex in a senate hearing room, BNPL is a phantom threat to the economy, and finally we get a little bit of corporate justice served. Support our Patreon for bonus episodes and more: https://www.patreon.com/PayPigsPod This episode (and every episode) was masterfully edited by Dillon Moore. Check him out at https://www.dillonmoore.co Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

And we're back. We're back with another riveting episode. Welcome back, folks, to, uh, we hope you had a very happy Christmas. We hope you got everything that you wanted. Hope you're surviving at your family's house in between Christmas and New Year's. I hope you're not. You're fine. Begging to go back to work.

You're fine. Just calm down. It's everybody knows that this is a throwaway week. It is a throwaway week, but it's supposed to be a joyful time. No, not for us. Not for us. They keep us in the podcast factory. And our buses, keep going, boys.

Yeah. You don't get to see your family this. Yeah, we're turning out hits at the podcast factory. They say, hey, boys, there's gay sex at the Senate you got to talk about. Yeah, we're talking about the gay guys in the Senate room who had sex and got busted. We're talking the big, the buy now pay later stuff that's going to maybe, it could be a legitimate phantom black swan kind of thing that could. Natalie Portman's going to show up. Oh, yeah, I never saw that movie.

I never saw black swam. You just check it out, BNPL if you're nasty. Yeah, BNPL. if you use Affirm Clarna or, what's the other one? Affirm, Clarna. After pay. Yeah, there are huge companies in there. We're going to be talking all about that.

Plus, we got the founder of Nicola, the trucking company. Dude, this is your guy. I know, this is my guy. I got a lot to say. Yeah, I can't wait for you to go off on this, dude. Needless to say, we got a jam-packed episode. We are stuffed more than we're... Than you guys are.

Yeah, then you're stocking. Or stockings. Or stockings. Or that... What's this? It's cold. Well, I guess let's just kick it off with that... Let's get right into gay sex in the Senate.

So, so it's really funny because I think conservatives are pretty obsessed with all things that they claim to be gay. Well, gay and, like, bad, because then they just start blasting. it out for everyone to see like hey look at this it was the daily collar the daily collar well so that's the funniest thing about this is that the only places that were would actually post the video was like the daily caller yeah where everyone else that's why i had to go on the daily color because i wanted to see the dang video you did yeah i i saw just the thumbnails and and we know better watch it no because i well no i didn't because i i mean i get it it's two guys having sex you don't get it. If you haven't seen it, you got to see it.

Why is it hot or something? No, but it is really interesting because it's that POV angle. Well, yeah, but it's a very funny he kind of does the thing where he, like... He pans the camera around to show exactly where they're having said. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but he's

he's like, I can't believe what we're doing. So he's like, fucking a guy. And then he's like, and this is where we are. Man, dudes rock. In Amy Klobuchar's seat. This is kind of a Dude's Rock episode between the Nicola guy and then these guys. So, yeah, so last Friday, I guess I don't know how long ago that is for you guys because we've recorded this a few days in advance, but the Daily Caller published a video

of two men having sex in the judiciary room in the Senate office building, and they were specifically having sex on Amy Klobuchar's seat. and for the So the audio listener is going to have to bear with us because we do have an image because these guys were posting it on their like close friends

Instagram stories And it's it's this guy Aiden So he's been exposed as Aiden Mace Soropsky A legislative aid for Democrat out of Maryland

Senator Ben Cardin More anti-Polish sentiment in this country, unbelievable. Terrible. So we're looking at a screenshot from the actual ordeal, and it's blurred out, but he's on his knees on the table and, like, presenting his ass. And they put text on the thing, and it says, in this very room, Sonia Sotomayor had her confirmation hearing.

James Comey testified on Russian interference in the 2016 elections. Aiden, and then, of course, reference. Sorry about the trash bins being rolled outside if you can hear it, by the way. And then last but not least, Aiden got some thick German sausage and a Jaeger sauce finish. I hadn't read that until just now. Jesus Christ, these guys, these guys are beyond. This is so horny. I mean, what a rush it must be to have sex in there.

And they have all the lights on. That's why I wish you saw the video. It's incredible. It's a thrill just to watch. Jeez, Louise, man. well so this horny young man got fired and the very next day ben cardin the senator who he works for his office the next day said oh yeah he's he's no longer employed at the senate and they wouldn't comment further except the senator did say that he's very angry and disappointed in young aden who by the way is now a bit of a he feels like he's being persecuted for oh yeah having sex in his workplace well my favorite thing was do you know how the the video was leaked? They were in a gay sex, or gay guys in politics.

In politics group chat. Right. And some guy in that group chat was like, enough is enough. And he... What, he thought, okay, we're being too nasty. We need to dial it back. Maybe it was George Santos. Because I don't know if you heard, but recently it was actually semaphore said there was actually

a scandal in the house as well. Yes, I know. I heard about that. In 2022, there were videos circulating on Snapchat showing a guy named Adam J, which featured a man masturbating inside a house office building, and a screenshot of a second video showed two guys engaging in a sex act in an office setting. So, man, oh man, these guys in politics are corny. I love the little stuff they used to, which was identifiable by a standard capital health furniture and carpeting.

The desk at which the videographer performed also held a branded, congressional mouse pad I got one of those every time I'm fucking though I just want to I want to be inside that that that group chat that gay guy group chat

I was gay guys in politics I've been trying to find it I'm scrolling Reddit I'm saying does that there's no way that's the most exclusive club there is and especially now they're not letting anybody any new people in there's probably chaos going on in that chat

they used have a fun secretive thing and they ruined it there's got to be so many I wonder what the nickname is for that because every chat's got a fun nickname. Oh, yeah. God, I wish I had one. Locked and loaded. Yeah, I wish I had one too.

Also, because I wanted it from the Daily Caller, so I could see the video. Have you ever been on The Daily Caller? No. It's insane. Not recently. Is it insane? They just sort of like,

they have like a lot of stories about the front page is insane. It's like they do a Trump thing where it's like whoever's being unfair to Trump. Sure. But then it's like, famous actress Sidney Sweeney reveals how she really feels about her legendary breasts. And you're like, wait, what? I thought this was...

Wait, what? And then I clicked it. Well, how does she feel about him? It's so weird. I don't want to know. Already iconic actress, Sidney Sweeney told Glamour UK on Thursday exactly how she feels about her absolutely legendary breasts. And I was like, wait, is this the daily caller or is this like Stuff magazine? Sweeney is, in all honesty, the next Emily Blunt.

I'm like, what is... In all honesty. That's an AI. Yeah, is this an AI article? She's just one of those few actresses who can do it all. Comedy, romance, deeply brutal, emotional nasties, and probably reaction. Dude, I'm... K. Smith?

News and commentary writer? Dude, I was like stuck on this website because I was like, what... But Sweeney is also known for being one of the most beautiful humans to... It is AI. It's got to be. who have ever walked the earth, which is why it's so surprising that she almost went under the knife

to change two of her biggest aesthetic assets. Her boobs. And then it's just more like them talking about how great Sydney Sweeney is. And plenty of photos of her boobs. Right. But for anyone hoping to get a proper look, Sweeney is in a long-term, steady relationship

with Chicago-based businessman Jonathan Davino. So get your head out of the gutter. What is going on over the Dalycah. Also, hasn't she been naked a lot of times online? Yeah. Yeah. But then, I mean, I just couldn't, I was on there for so long. Feminism ruined her life.

Megan Markle sinks to incredible new lows in a bizarre coffee ad. What the fuck? Hulk Hogan gets dunked in baptismal ceremony at age 70. It's like a bizarre award. I assumed that the daily caller was somewhat of a, not reputable, but at least somewhat self-respecting. And not just a straight gossip rag. This one's really nice. U.S. state sees the snowiest winter in 70s.

years and it's beautiful and this is my favorite former NBA G league player confesses to murdering a hooker with his hooker girlfriend court talk show who was it he murdered a hooker with alongside his hooker girlfriend confesses to murdering

a hooker with his hooker girlfriend damn dude wow we got to stop this hooker on hooker crime these uh these conservatives they they truly they continue to fascinate me. I mean... They know no bounds.

I couldn't stop. I could spend all day on the Daily Collar. Well, so anyway, the Daily Collar is the one who got surprising. Like, now I'm not surprised. And if you want to see the video, yeah, go find it. Go get on the Daily Caller. Yeah, you can find it.

It'll be pretty easy to find. Go poke around on there. Yeah, go poke around. Stick your... Go ahead. I'm trying to make a pun. I know. It's going to get hot.

sticky fuck god damn it all right you know what okay anyway wait wait but did you did we show them the george santo yeah so i got it right here so george santos apparently this this kid aiden posted on lincoln he said this has been a difficult time for me as i have been attacked for who i love to pursue a political agenda not true buddy you're getting attacked because you fucked come on you fucked at work like if it if i were to fuck it well back back when i had a normal job if i fucked at work i would get in trouble too it wouldn't be i would say if you fucked at work now i'd be we'd have to have a conversation yeah i wouldn't want to fuck right here yeah i wouldn't do that in your in on set here while some of my actions in

the past have shown poor judgment buddy i love my job and would never disrespect my workplace but you did but that's the thing is he saying he didn't do it yeah sorry keep there's literally video of you also also we'll get to it any attempts to characterize to characterize you my actions otherwise are fabricated, and I will be exploring what legal options are available to me in these matters. As for the accusations regarding Congressman Max Miller, I have never even seen the congressman and had no opportunity or cause to yell or confront him. He apparently yelled at someone in the halls. But he has a history. He's apparently well known in his work circles for posting horny shit on his Instagram. So I got this one right here. This is on his

Instagram page it says it's a photo of him with Representative Sorenson has this and it's just pictured

me trying to resist the urge to suck on Representative Sorenson's gorgeous fingers and then there's another one

prepare yourselves because this is really fucking horny he's just he's he's he's he's joking

he's got a whole highlight set of just his ass according to this because it says more peach but it's him in the shower sticking his ass out

and it says waiting for Lindsay Graham in the work showers which is funny but it's also incredibly horny and he's got this for and look at his I mean if you look at his user photo it's him like on on a bed with this kid's gonna be a this kid's I don't know but it could be but boy oh boy this guy is fucking horny so he would I also don't want to live in a world where gay Senate staffers are not whaling out in the halls of Congress.

I mean, they absolutely should be, but... But it sucks, and now they're going to have to dial it back. Now they're going to have to reel it in. I just feel so left out. I feel... But this is the problem. You've got to do stuff, and you got to keep it for you, you know? Well, everyone's got to post it to Snapchat.

Everyone's got to posted Instagram. Yeah. He would, apparently, Aiden would also regularly publish sex stuff on a Twitter burner account that he had. Hell yeah. You can't... I think part of it. the thrill is posting it, blasting it out there for all the world to see.

You feel like you're getting away with something. You're posting your big juicy ass for Lindsey Graham. Man, oh man. So this guy's, he's in trouble, man. He's in big trouble. He lost his job for having sex, being horny on Maine. Wait, what did George Santos respond to? Oh, George Santos screenshoted that post on LinkedIn and said,

and said, having sex in a United States government building and filming it is the reason you got heat. You being gay and having gay sex, nobody gives a rat's ass. No one is perusing a political agenda. We are just disgusted about your file... Did he misuse that? What? No one is perusing a political agenda?

Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like he misused that. Okay. As we are just disgusted about your vile behavior as a staffer to a United States senator, now you do put a new definition to fuck around and find out. Aidan? You will

forever be remembered as the Democrats' favorite sloppy bottom. Oh, man. What a fucking take down. Holy shit. We need to do away with fuck around and find out, I think. Yeah, I don't like that.

I think it's run its course and let it go. Yeah. I also hope fucking George Santos runs its course soon. Yeah, no, he'll be over as soon as the new year. I don't think so. No, I do. I do. I think he's going to... Did you see him on Z-way? Yeah, but I didn't watch it because I don't give a shit.

So he didn't see him on Zeeway? No. I don't give a shit. I don't think he's going away because people like me are already like, all right, yeah, I get it. But usually if people ask you if you've seen something, that mean, like, have you watched it? No, I didn't watch it. I saw that he was on there. I saw the one clip that everybody shared, and I just, I don't, I'm not going to give him any more attention than he's already commanded.

Just for next time, we're having a conversation. What? Like, if I say, did you see Forrest Gump and you say, yeah. And then I go, did you watch it? And you go, no, I'm going to be pissed. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, whoops. Well, so, I mean, I know of it.

But at one point, she asked, yeah, there you go. She asks what? She goes, like, how do we make you go away? Which, he goes, stop inviting me places. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, what do you do? Don't, you can't do that. You can't, like, profit off of this whole thing and be like, God, you're so annoying.

I wish you weren't, I wish you would just go away. It's like, you're platforming, you idiot. Her whole shtick kind of sucks in his old. It's like, oh, I'm being a bitch. to you, to your face, but I'm going to act like I'm not and treat you like you're an idiot. And then you are going to humiliate yourself. And it's like, no, it's just that everybody now knows what your bid is. Right.

Yeah. Anyway. So let's get on to the next thing, shall we? Nikola. I always feel funny saying it. Nicola. You should maybe refresh this whole story because you. Yeah.

Okay. So I'll, we talked about this a long time ago. Right. So back in 2020, in the middle of 2020, there was a, oh, gosh, okay. So, well, or don't. No, no. I'm like, okay, where do I start? Because the company is still around, but there was this company called Nicola, and they

specialize in hydrogen-powered semi-trucks. Right, Nicola after. Nikola Tesla, which is just one part of, I believe, this guy was trying to just copy Elon Musk's playbook for success in that he just did a lot of bullshitting and was hoping that he could get far enough in his company and in his wealth that he could escape the bullshitting and just kind of you know what I mean because that's what Elon did but obviously like evoking a already popular brand right he's kind of He was intentionally piggybacking off of Tesla by naming his brand, Nicola.

But so his name is Trevor Milton, and he became kind of a billionaire overnight when his company went public via SPAC, a special purpose acquisition corporation, which was a very, very, very, very, very popular thing in 2020 and 2021. So many, so many fucking companies went public that way. where it's basically just a shell company that has a good amount of cash and they say, okay, we're looking for a company to buy

and thereby take public. Right. Special purpose acquisition company. Right. So they went public via SPAC in June of 2020. They were valued at $30 billion at the peak. And Hindenberg Research, which we've referenced here. The name a short seller.

Yeah. They came out and alleged that, Nicola and Trevor Milton in particular were making a bunch of false misleading statements. And as of today, the company is valued at a paltry $296 million. Famously, because there were a lot of questions around can hydrogen trucks even fucking work? And I remember really diving in and reading about it because they had like kind of promises from I think Budweiser and a couple other companies to invest with them. make, build the infrastructure necessary to make this technology work. And I was like, oh, shit, this is really cool.

This is a great idea. And, yeah, then they had, it all kind of came crashing down when they posted a video. So keep in mind, there was a lot of doubts about whether the company was even legit and whatnot. And then they posted a video of the truck pulling cargo in like the desert. And it was shot really well. And it was like, oh, shit. Whoa, it's real.

And I remember, this is for our haters. Yeah, this is for our haters, pretty much. And then it came out that the video was faked because they rolled it down a really, really big hill. It was just a long, steady downhill gradient. And they just rolled it. And it was just like, oh, yeah, no, this company is actually all bullshit. So part of the reason Trevor Milton got in trouble is because he was, so the process. So the prosecutors are saying, first of all, he had no remorse, and they said that the judge should take into account his, quote, profound denial of accountability and insistence on blaming others, that he lied to investors again and again on social media, on TV, podcasts, and in print.

What else are you supposed to do if your product doesn't work? You know what I mean? I mean, yeah. What does this guy has his backup against the wall? Well, they find him a million dollars. They sentenced him on this last Monday for us to four years in prison, which is very surprising. And they compared him to Elizabeth Holmes, and they said that he lied about the operability of the truck, whereas the defense came out and said that Nicola is a real business, though.

But yeah, the difference between going public via a SPAC and an IPO, one of the central ones is it allowed Trevor Milton to make. all these misleading statements because under an IPO you wouldn't be able you're not allowed there's like a quiet period and but he was out there just touting the stock and pumping the stock and pumping the company and just running his stupid fucking nerd mouth and it came out and bit him i remember when he when he was first getting indicted or whatever it was getting in trouble he was on vacation i think in greece at some he was officially like full-blown billionaire um because he's the founder and the largest shareholder and he had just sold

I think like a billion dollars worth of stock or some shit and yeah he was celebrating with a bunch of family and friends at some fucking expensive ass villa in the Mediterranean I just thought

oh boy you better enjoy it well you got it dude I mean he'll still enjoy it he's gonna do his time he'll probably get out early he'll still have a book yeah oh yeah I would

I would read it or like go out he's gonna be George Santos style he's still he's he's that's thing is like they are a legitimate company it's just they're way way further behind than they would like to have you believe right and he and he was actively misleading a bunch of people about where they were i mean by literally rolling the truck down a hill instead of it's a good idea though you know i can't help but the most abundant element in the universe

i can't help but worry about uh the american businessman you know what i mean the american entrepreneur you're not allowed to lie lie cheat How are they supposed to get ahead? That's what the prosecution said. They said, let this sentence be a warning to startup founders and corporate executives everywhere. Fake it till you make it is not an excuse for fraud. I disagree. I think everybody should be constantly faking until they're making it.

That is one of the most common phrases. Fake it till you make it. And we're really seeing, if you want to talk about fucking around and finding out. Faking it until you make it is one way to fuck around and find out. well also when you tell an entire generation to fake it till you make it and then i remember you can't send him to jail after that have you ever had to tell yourself uh fake it till you make it to like get your get your um i i remember being at a job that i was underqualified for and i was so scared and nervous every single day and it was a terrible feeling and i just kept going to eventually make it

no i got fired really i'm faking it here wait which job the uh movie trailer studio But you got fired for such a stupid reason. I know. I got fired for a very stupid reason. But that's bullshit. I agree with you. I would argue that you made it.

Well, no, because I got fired. So I didn't make it. In my mind? I made it. My heart? Yeah. You made it. I was good at the other parts of the job. Just not the ones where you didn't get Adam Sandler's.

ADR lines right? Yeah. Yeah, it was stupid. Tapadoo. Hey, what would you? Anyway, okay, so we got that. What else? You want to talk about the...

We gotta talk about Buy Now Pail. Oh, yeah. Here, I got a fun little sound bite to play. Oh, fuck. Why don't you play it with sound? Well, this is an ad for Asana, but here it goes. It's gonna play after this ad. I can't believe there's a 15 second ad for this.

Did you see the tweet that was like, uh, we put a man on the moon without Asana? No, that's pretty funny. Do you know how Asana's like? Or all of these Everyone needs these productivity apps Yeah Whoops Yeah I know

Everybody's got these Fucking productivity things They all do the same goddamn thing Right Okay here I got a fun A little sound bite

Give it to me I gladly pay you Tuesday For a hamburger Today You know who that is This is Wimpy He's from I think he's from

My mom's probably screaming right now He's from Popeye The sailor man. I think he's from Popeye. His name is Wimpy. He's definitely from Popeye.

You think so? We could put that on the soundboard. Any point you want, you could have one button to place that. Just the, I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. I don't know what his deal was. I don't know if he was like stingy and didn't have any money. I guess. He's basically J.P. Morgan.

He's just a creditor or something. You ever use Buy Now Pay Later? No, but I will say, because these have been around for a while, but they popped up way more. after the pandemic and everyone's doing online shopping? Pandemic? I don't like that. You don't like it?

No. Fuck, okay. Or like when someone says like Pandeasy. People say that? Now that deserves getting killed. I think they should be killed. You want to execute people I want to execute people who say Pandizi.

Or Stimmy? I hated Stimmy. Oh, Stimmy was bad. Stimmy check. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, I'm going to stick with Plandemic. Plannedemic? I'm going to stick with plannedemic.

Because it was. It was, because it was planned. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry. No, pandemic is fine, because it's not trying to be cute. Yeah. I'm kidding. It's actually kind of sinister.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, these started, and it was, uh, my first thought was like, oh, shit, this is so bad. It's going to be so bad. By now, pay later? And then I think I'm embarrassed that even years later, every time I see it, it's like, it, it, something gets, something lights up inside me. it's like, oh, it's so cheap. You know, when you're looking at stuff, you're like, come on, you don't need another fucking...

I don't look at it, and now I'm going to start looking at it. It's like every time I go to checkout, it's like, you could pay $250, but what if you just paid $25 a month for whatever? For four months? I guess. Yeah, well, that would only be $100, so I did my math. The math was not great there, but, uh, but yeah, everything, everything, it's, everything feels way cheaper.

It's not a new concept either. No, no, no. Layway used to be a thing. I didn't know what that was. I mean, I'd always heard it, but I didn't think it was something you could do where they just trust you to take shit. Yeah, take it home.

Put it on Layway. Put it on Layaway. What does that mean? What does that mean? You pay as you go, because you can't afford it up front. You pay like... Okay.

Yeah, yeah. What, do they send you a bill? Yeah. Oh, okay. It's like any... It's like leasing a car. gotcha gotcha like i don't get to i've never done that you've never leased the car no i buy my cars okay full stuff full out full blown sometimes talking to you is like talking to an alien it's like

you like you don't understand the concept of like someone not having $25,000 in cash thing or i i i'm 20th dude are you kidding me the most expensive car by far i've ever bought was my truck for $13,500 okay that's a huge amount of cash to just have yeah most people don't have 13,500 hundred dollars yeah that i just had i kept it in my car in my rental car which is insane i know i but i locked it so like not only do you not understand it you also don't understand that you shouldn't just leave a bunch of cash in your car i don't know about that thousands of dollars yeah but what is layaway but it'd be just go to the bank and take out $13,000 it'd be illegal for them to take the money is the thing yeah just like it was illegal for them to take your Volvo it yeah it is pretty

crazy that cash is just like whoever has it, that's your, it's truly finders keepers. Cash. Like if you just have a gun on someone and you take their cash, it's like, that's yours now. There's no way that government has any, you go and spend it and it's like

whereas if I steal your credit card, they're like, you're not a meal and I'm like, yeah, and it's up to them to decide. But with cash, it's truly just, it's anyone's game. Yeah, but you can still get in trouble. Of course you can. You do have to think about

the uh you could have sex in the judiciary room at the senate you got to think about the common petty thief these days yeah what about them well i mean what are you what are you gonna get from if you're holding people up you're sticking them up what do you get yeah the other night i got no cash in my right me either remember when we were when we were doing the christmas shopping we kept seeing the lady ringing the bell for the salvation army oh it's like lady get your act together i mean you gotta get a you gotta get a you gotta get a car code for vimbo or something on here you're not going to get anything she probably had one but we just were too high to notice i don't think she did i kept looking i i i the speaking and getting robbed the other night i was walking to

my truck and i had my um i had my laptop under my arm and it was dark and there was a sketchy looking fellow walking toward me so i was like he just was sketchy i couldn't really see it was dark and it was like all right and um i just i put on the tough i made my walk look a little tough. Oh, I wish I could see that. A little ragged around the edges. I just was like, I just was kind of like hoblin. I just started hoblin.

And I thought it would be somewhat intimidating. A hobble. Yeah, hobble. Oh, yeah. You want to, if you see someone who might be a potential threat, you're like, let me look unbalanced and. Well, I didn't look unbalanced. I just looked war torn.

I looked like, oh, okay. You want him to think you were a veteran. I didn't. I just looked like I didn't give a flying. you're like shit i think this guy's seen active duty i i think it was more like i i was trying to convey that i will use this expensive laptop as a weapon right right right all fucking crack and nothing says that like a hobble because i buy now paid later i bought this now but i'm going to pay for it later you like that you like what i mean well that's the so there's a lot

of things this all is very common where yeah people don't have enough money to pay for things and the laptop one is funny you bring up because a lot of these programs kind of existed in other forms I'm sure you're aware of the layaway Ben we just talked I know I'm kidding but the the Apple credit card was very big because you could do they would do no interest for a year so people would go get like a $2,000 laptop and they would get to pay it off that was one of the first credit cards I ever got yeah by the way just real fast got to plug it the credit card list dot com oh it's actually We have, we have, we, we finally have all the chase cards on there. So go on there and get your ass, get your sweet ass, a Chase Sapphire card.

Because we finally got it on there. We got to do a full. Get a Southwest card. We got it on there. We got to do a full Ben and a Milan credit cards. But those are like two of my. The Chase Sapphire is my favorite. That's your favorite.

I love the Chase, I love the Southwest card because you get a fat fucking stack of points. And you also, the annual fee is pretty much offset by an. annual anniversary bonus of points. And if you got a sweetheart in your life, you can do the companion pass. You can do the companion pass. Anyway, I hate getting comb on my panion. I want to say cut it, but I want people to see what you did. I want people to know what you did.

Okay, so the big news is, is by now, sorry. No, no, I don't even remember. Laptops, whatever. Buy Now Pay Later is now being offered at Walmart checkouts, because it used to be almost exclusively online, but now, they're putting it on the on the checkouts and there's there's some people who are upset about that because they're thinking they're I believe it's the consumer um the consumer protection I have it in here but either way I'll get to it the the usage of by now pay later is up

42% year over year which is concerning for a lot of reasons because savings are at a at a they're at like a eight or nine month low credit card debt is already near all-time highs, which is around a trillion dollars, which is averaging about $8,000 per household. And in a survey, more than a third of Americans said that they were considering using buy-no pay later for holiday shopping. Because on the one hand, economic data looks really good and looks really strong. And holiday sales are at or near all-time highs. But then when you look beneath the surface, you got this like, oh, it's just people kind of a lot of it is buy now pay later shit which is like the ultimate kick the can

down the road kind of um usage of debt that's a weird thing i don't know if you got you got to this yet but the it's not reported in the same way as other debt right that's a big big problem is that it there was this uh so people are using there's a lot more strict requirements to get access to a credit card you've got to have you've got to your credit score has to be above a certain threshold um but oh and and with that interest rates are lower with by now pay later in many cases it's just zero percent over the course of four payments which is great for some people but like you said it's not reported to credit bureaus so it doesn't because usually you need like a longer term i think when you keep it under it's exactly payments or less yes then you don't get you don't have

to report it in the same way yeah The Truth in Lending Act of 1968 only applies to loans with more than four payment installations, which effectively excludes by now, pay later. And so it's kind of like, yeah, there's a tradeoff. It's good for people who don't have access to credit cards and enables them to buy things that they otherwise wouldn't be able to buy. But credit cards come with perks. They come with protections.

They come with consumer fraud protection. but also so with that ease comes a big problem because there I think they're also since a lot of people can grocery shop at Walmart there's there were instances in this article I read where they interviewed people who were oh they do an $80 one here they do a $20 one here they do a fucking $50 one here and before they know it they're they've got like 50 right that's the firm payments to keep on that's the scary thing is like like like lights up your thing where you all of a sudden are like, I can spend way more money because it's fine. It's all just getting cut up in chunks. I will say though, it doesn't seem like the effect I thought it was going to have is happening at least now. I think the guy from Klarna said its global default rates are less than 1%. In the United States, more than a third of customers repay loans early. However, however, I saw that, where's that stat? Yeah, about, Well, that's Klarna, but about 2.4% of a firm's loans were delinquent last quarter.

But, yeah, the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau reported that 43% of Buy Now Pay Later users had overdrawn a bank account in the last 12 months. Oh, yeah. It just says overdrawn a bank account. So, I mean, it could, you know. But one of the problems for the fact that they're not reported to credit bureaus is, credit card companies can see what other credit you've got out there. So, like, if you apply for a Chase account, they can see, oh, this guy's got accounts

with American Express. They've already got X amount of... And they can see your payment history. Yes. That's not the case with Klarna, AfterPay, and Affirm. They can't see the companies have... They're all blind to one another. So I could have a hundred different ones with...

a firm and then go somewhere else where there's Klarna and Klarna would happily offer it to me. So there was this analyst or this economist, excuse me, at Wells Fargo who's talking about how this is like, this is all phantom debt. Right, no one can really track it properly. And it's kind of a scary thing to think about because you're, there's, yeah, there's no way to track it properly. It's at once a sign of weakness under the hood with spending habits and whatnot. But then on the other hand, it promotes spending, which can be a good or bad thing.

I feel like, yeah, it's predatory in many ways because it's like, hey, a person who's lower on the economic ladder. Look how much more you can afford now. How much more you can afford? You could, instead of buying this, because usually it's you pay for a quarter of it up front, and then the rest is broken up into three interest-free payments. So the way they make their money is, I believe they charge a fee to the retail. Yeah, they do. yeah but baboo man it makes me want to start paying attention when I see that like oh shit

why not just do if it's interest free because I always assumed that there was interest I'm fine with that but I don't want to buy shit that I wouldn't normally buy just because now I'm all like I fucking hate shit I don't need yeah and online shopping you go god I could just show up in two days yeah I know I mean with all of it I was reluctant to I didn't want to use credit cards. I was like, if I don't have the money, I don't want to use it, right? And it's like, I mean, it's shocking every time I find out, I've been finding out a lot of friends have, like, a sizable credit card debt of like, not, I mean, like, two grand and under, but you're like, oh, shit. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. And I mean, I have probably five credit cards, and I could just, there's pretty high limits on them. I'm like, I could just fuck my life up. I remember it's always like a resistance of like yeah fuck it I want to go to wherever we want to go to australia oh medieval times I don't know why this just popped into my head well I do actually but um I knew someone whose father was on his deathbed and this person called her brother and was like, well, do you want to buy ourselves some stuff on Dad's American Express card? And they're...

Oh, because the debt would die with them? I guess, yeah. Fuck, that's sick. I didn't know how to feel about it. Why? Wait, that feels wrong. Like, not to the American Express. Fuck American Express.

Sure. Well, not fuck American Express because I love them and I got so many points with them, but... They just pull your points. It just feels like, it just feels like your dad's on his death, but he's like days away from death. It's what dad would have wanted. And you're thinking, oh, let's go buy some fucking pumps, some shoes. Are they still call him pumps?

Yeah, they still call him pumps. What dad would have wanted. That's what dad would have wanted. That's what dad would. I guess. But Jesus. And then it feels like a gross oversight on the part of credit card companies to just allow this. Like, oh, yeah, you're really, Mr. So-and-so, you were buying shoes and then you died two days later yeah get the fuck out of here also i had a friend who i don't know i don't know how many

years it worked in a row but i know for a while he was doing like once a year like big night out like big dinner bar out and then it's like my credit card was stolen that you can use that once and we are not encouraging that but i did it once no you didn't because i had to i genuinely did forget my card at the bar and i forgot what bar it was too and it was a very small it was like $25 worth. Oh. But I lost my card, and I didn't know for a few days, and then I called the credit card company.

I was like, yeah, I lost my card. And they said, oh, it looks like you've got to purchase at the, I don't know, Red Robin. You were at Red Robin? No, I wasn't. It was like the Cat and Fiddle or something. The Cat and Fiddle? I didn't remember that I had been at that bar.

So I said, yeah, that definitely wasn't me. And then she said, okay, well, we're going to, you're not going to pay that, sir. And we're going to send you a new credit card. And I said, oh, gee whiz, thanks. Something you couldn't do with a firm or Kornipay, by the way. But they sent me a new card. And then as I was driving later, I was like, oh, wait, no, I did. I left my card at that bar.

Oh, shit. I was at the cat and fiddle. I just committed fraud. I just was at what? You were at the cat and fiddle. I was at the cat and fiddle. And it was like 25 bucks. But, yeah.

That's a good idea to do maybe once a year and only do it to a couple of cards. Yeah. Because they could catch. If they were, if they were so inclined, they could, maybe there's security cameras at that bar or restaurant, and they could call it up and ask. Yeah. Hey, we got, we got to find out who this fraudster was. Credit is a lifesaver at some points, though. I mean, the ability to access it, I used to drive a Ben-Nose.

I used to drive a... You used to drive a Ben-Nose? What? Come on, dude. What the fuck is that? You were in my Beter, the Honda CRV? Oh, yeah. That thing was a piece of shit.

It wasn't a piece of shit. Yeah, it didn't have air conditioning. After a while, it didn't. Yeah. It got the job done, but the fucking transmission went. Oh, man. And it was, I think it was about $4,500. I thought you could say $1,000.

$4,500? It was thousands of dollars. Yeah, that's insane. I didn't have thousands of dollars to rebuild it or put in a new one? They had to put in a new one. And luckily, they were like, we can give you this AMCO-synchrony credit card with no oh synchrony man yeah no no interest for fucking like two years or something yeah and I was like do it I can't

so you did it yeah but then you got rid of the car just a short while later right no no then it ran for another like it ran for years after oh wow yeah huh yeah I remember your fucking weak ass air conditioning okay it only works when I drive it only works when I hit the gas and I was like buddy it's not even it's not even working then can we like roll down windows. It was like two decades old. It was an old car. Yeah, yeah.

Come on, man. That Honda was still kicking. No, I know. I'm just, I'm just rasping. The danger, so I think it's not as dangerous when I think it's going to get more pervasive, but when it's like these things, like you see when you're online shopping, you're like, oh, I could do this sweater.

I could break up the payments. It's like, okay, it's not something you're going to buy all the time. But what they were talking about is when it starts entering these things like at Walmart or places where people might be buying groceries where they're like weekly purchases. that you're putting on these credit things. Right, because then you lose track. Yeah. And then there was instances of people doing payday loans

to cover their by now pay lay their loans, and then they just start very quickly. You can start to drown in this shit. So it's kind of no wonder a firm's stock is up 455% on the year. But I still, I'm like, oh boy, I shorted at the other, $455%. It was like at $10 earlier this year. and now it's at like 45 or something like that.

But annoying, because I remember it, yeah, it was over 100 at one point. And then it came back down and I thought, oh, okay, well, that bubbles popped because it was part of the SPAC thing. I don't think it itself was a spec. Sorry, I'm... Hey, man, do you maybe, do you need something? Are you good? Yeah, I'm good. It's just the Diet Coke.

The Diet Coke bubbles. But, yeah, so it's interesting because a lot of these, um, the consumer, finance protection crew or whatever is really pushing hard for new regulations. And these companies are on board. It's just that they're going to have to come up with some kind of better. They're basically going to have to invent a new way to report this new kind of credit. Yeah. The problem with that, though, is they talk about it in the New York Times article where with credit reporting,

you're rewarded for long-term debt and that you're like paying off and accounts that have been open for a long time and so if these are now factored in it's going to start like fucking people's credit reporting up because they're going to be like oh well you took out these weird micro loans like truly

that lasted weeks and then you're closing a bunch of accounts yeah it doesn't say anything it doesn't let me know if you are truly credit worthy it just shows oh you were able to spend $50 in four payments over the course of four weeks or four months or whatever. But I do, I did come around on it in two ways. I think that it makes sense for people who are using it in moderation and using it for

making sizable purchases of like, you know, several hundred or several thousand dollars. Because hey, you're getting it interest free. Why the fuck would you not do that? It'd be the same thing is, it's better than the alternative. which is what I would normally do, which is put it on a credit card and then pay off the entire balance the next month so that I'm not carrying a balance and paying interest. So now I'd be much more inclined to just do the by now pay later thing and split it up over four months at zero percent interest. And then also there is something to be said for people

who are otherwise responsible but may not have access to traditional loans or credit cards and this enables them to do that. But it's like, yeah, you got to use it in moderation. Can you trust people aren't going to... It's like me. It's like giving a kid a kid in a candy store. Can you trust that they're not going to give themselves type one? Putting a me in a candy store.

Dude, man, oh, brother. I've been in a couple candy stores with Ben. I go nut nut. He does. I truly am like, do I go sweet or do I go... Wait, what? Do I go... He's a...

the sweet and salty candy store. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, do I go, do I go chocolate or do I go skittles? Because that's basically you're two big categories of candy or chocolate or skittles. More like chocolate or fruity. Man, shut the fuck up. The amount of times you hear Ben in a candy store go, ooh. It's like uncountable.

Well, because they got everything in there, man. like when we went on the acid video which if you haven't seen grow up go look go watch it but we went into but with that part I don't think made the final cut because there was music playing and we were like oh we're gonna get copyright struck yeah but we went into this candy store I think it's Dylan's Dylan's candy bar spelled differently yeah Maroon 5 was playing and you you come up with a tube that you're supposed to put like I don't know candy sugar in yeah and you just go what is this and you go is that That a tube?

And you just stand there. And then I see you, I saw you outside the window and you just go, you pointed to your ears and you just go, yeah, we can't. I hear the music. Or I just set it into the microphone. I was like, you can hear the music. And you went, yeah. It has a shame.

But yeah, there were these tubes where you could fill with like pixie dust, pixie sticks. Is that a tube? Is that a tube? It did look like a crazy-ass tube. It was. But, well, let's wrap it up with this final. This final, well, man, there's a lot, dude. Oh, my God.

Do you see these other stories that we got on here? Well, okay, let's talk about the Facebook diversity strategist. Facebook diversity strategists. Former Facebook diversity strategists because they are pleading guilty to stealing more than $4 million from the company. She's pretty smart for doing this. I mean, it's very sick. You know, we love a hookster.

We love a grifter. also it's going to be so annoying because I'm sure people have noticed that like you're hearing a lot less of like CRT stuff critical race theory and now you're hearing so much DEI stuff have you been noticing like yeah because a lot of there have been a lot of rumblings about like okay what does a DEI department do like what do they do all they steal stuff from the company well it's it's been there have been I've read plenty of stuff where it's like yeah they're sure there are initiatives that companies can do but a lot of it has there's very smart savvy people who have made it their business to go consult at companies which i don't know if this is what she was doing she was basically paying people she was lying to facebook barbara furlowe smiles who led various facebook diversity equity and inclusion programs 2017 2021 so let's say i'm her i'm basically saying hey facebook oh my friend of me oh i wouldn't say my friend but it'd be like you got a meal here did some work rendered some services for facebook 10,000 dollars you got to pay him and they would just be like okay cool and they'd pay you

$10,000 and then I being what's her name Barbara Barbara I'd go I'd go hey give me a little kickback I just gave you $10,000 courtesy of Facebook and I don't mind breaking you off a little bit broke me off a little piece yeah so that's what she was doing to like her family and friends and a bunch of uh right an elaborate scheme involving fraudulent vendors Tish's charges and cash kickbacks. We love a cash kickback. Dude. So she was basically making these fake invoices.

Facebook was paying them, and then those people, the recipients of which were giving her low cash kickback. Well, it's also like an incredibly difficult thing to quantify, right? Yeah. They're saying she caused the meta-subsidiary pay people for goods and services that were never actually provided to the company and then had those individuals pay her kickbacks. But how do you, like, how do you prove that we didn't, like, we didn't diversity enough or whatever or like you know how do you quantify anyone

your impact on i talked to a white guy at your company i told them to chill out well which one was it i don't fucking remember you Trevor we did tons of exercises yeah we did tons of them emil came in and did all the exercises yeah prove it i've go talk to Trevor see how racist he is go go ask him go ask him yeah go ask him and then they're like he's still very racist and like exactly we have a lot of work to do we're bringing a meal back I gotta give her a salute though because I mean insane

I think that's great I did you see Mark Zucker corn built himself a bunker yeah to protect himself from all these people trying to steal his money it's pretty incredible so he spent $170 million buying land in Hawaii and then $100 million dollars building

a couple massive 30 bedroom mansions on top of it and underneath it's all connected via like tunnels and shit and it's entirely the the whole property is like self-sustaining um i don't think i quite understand this though like is it going to completely seal itself from the outside world because like if everything goes belly up yeah me and you and all my buddies are going to be like let's go to zuckerbergs and well what i wouldn't kill him well what i'd be worried about if i were zucker corn is like the people that built it obviously know where it is right

And surely he has... I'm sure that there's codes and shit. Or guards, but in this scenario... Your guards are just part of it. But like money's worthless. What are the guards... What are they doing it for? The goodness of their heart.

The love of Mark. No. Yeah. Honestly, the guards are probably going to rip him limb from limb and just start raiding all the canned goods. Yeah. True. Yeah, but maybe...

I mean, Mark is smarter than that. So he's probably got things in place like biometrics and voice recognition so that, oh, do you want your water? Well, I've got to specifically say, give water to Trevor. The raisins guy? Yeah, he's there.

No water for Trevor? No water for Trevor. But there's probably things in place to keep him from getting killed and whatnot. I mean, that's the thing. I remember my friend is always like, dude, my cousin is so sad. He lives on a farm in New Hampshire, blah, blah, blah. And so like when everything goes, he's going to be self-y, sustained and whatever and it's like no i'm literally going to kill your cousin how are you going to get

there though oh oh shit oh shit we got we got like a week till it collapses oh yeah my friend's cousin trevor's cousin in new hampshire i got to go buy a flight now but anyone like me who doesn't have a place to go is just going to be like oh there's a farm over there with what's it how's he going to protect himself i don't know think about a farm where where's the nearest farm in california they're all over the place yeah right yeah right yeah right I'm just going I'm just going to if the shit hits the fan dude

just fucking crash into a wall I mean honestly or just like shit hits the fan I'm going to get covered in shit if once when the defecation hits the oscillation yeah I know isn't that so fun it's so fun

do one more time when the defecation hits the oscillation it's impossible to not hear the Papa Roach song like anytime you hear oh actually it's quite it's quite possible because i don't like you say defecation i hear defecation wow so any word defecation no breathing no it's definitely not no poop no you would say no pooping defecation yeah no pooping yes don't no that would be constipation oh man do you guys know about the

christmas to turn do you guys know about the christmas toad i got to tell in the bonus episode i'm to educate the boys on the Christmas Toad. What a clip thing. It's a new sensation. It's a new thing that... Is it you and your Gen Z friends are doing it? No, no, no, no. But it's the Christmas Toad,

and there's a whole lore around them. Also, well, because we're not going to get there yet, but I got some crazy shit to show you that you're going to really like. But before we do that, did you... I just read this today. Kanye West, speaking of building a bunker,

this motherfucker's building a city in... Dubai. In the desert. Do you hear about it? What desert? I don't know. I don't know. It's called Yeezy Drome, D-R-O-A-M, and I guess...

Oh, yeah, in the Middle East. It's 100,000-acre V-1 city piloting in the Middle East, and they're recruiting, project managers, engineers, architects, contractors, builders. Dude, I think let him cook. I want to fucking lie and say I'm a project manager. I would love to be a part of this. And then you just write a book about it. You're like, yeah, I was there when...

Dude, scammed Kanye West out of a million dollars or something? Well, and, I mean... How's he's not going to find out for a while. This is going to turn into a... They're definitely going to use slavery to get this thing. Oh, yeah. It's going to be such a mess. Yeah.

I mean, it's going to be really hot there, too. It's the desert. It's the Middle East. Arguably the hottest place on Earth. famously one of the hottest. Yeah. Well, I hope it looks like a big shoe. That would actually be sick.

No, wouldn't it would. Beets fucking stupid. It's all going to be stupid. It's all going to be stupid. But let him cook. If he's going to do it, where's he getting the money, too? He's like got a billion dollars, man.

I don't think. It's weird. Over a billion. Yeah, because it's weird because I remember he was. Dude, it takes way more. You know how much it cost to build like fucking Hudson yards?

Yeah, you know how much he, you know how he's got friends in high places? He's got, he's friends with, he's probably getting into that fucking, that Saudi investment fund money. That's exactly what I'm saying. I saw him doing some...

No, you didn't. He was previewing some new tracks in Dubai. Like race tracks? Come on. Oh, oh, oh, some music tracks. I don't know. Because Dubai's got racetracks. Yeah.

Cross got boots. Yeah, exactly. I've been to Dubai. I went on the Birch Khalifa. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah. That's where we should do the next one. Ben and Milan acid in Dubai.

Honestly, we're going to die. Or at Mecca? Yeah. No, I don't want to put ourselves in real danger. I do want to, like, go on a flight, like first class on acid. But that would be kind of hard. It would get pretty old because there's nowhere to go and nothing to do. And I get so squirly.

I'm going to want to move. Finn and Emil try to hijack an airliner on acid. Because we want to have fun. Yeah. Damn. We did have fun when we were in Tokyo on acid though, or in Japan. Yeah. God, damn.

Thank God. God, Gazilla didn't come. Thank God. That'd be such a nightmare. Thank God. Thank God Godzilla didn't come. Actually, I would be a nightmare, yeah. I would like to be alive to see that.

I'd probably be more like, whoa. No, he's here. It's horrifying. Yeah, I think you're right. Or there's something about Godzilla that's been a little, I know everyone hates Cloverfields, but I love it. Oh, Cloverfield's awesome. It's such a great movie.

I feel like people are turning on that movie for some reason, but they do. It's been, it's being discussed. Oh, in my circles, yeah. Actually, you guys know what? I've been thinking a lot about 2008's Cloverfield. I'm always thinking about it. Did you like one Cloverfield Lane or whatever?

No. The prequel? It was cool. It's not Matt Reeves. Isn't that Matt Reeves? He did the new Batman, Silverfield guy. I don't know.

I believe. Okay. Never mind. Movies. I'm just all, I don't know, did they? I don't know. But I feel like they do capture that, like, beautiful scariness of what would happen if something like that. Yeah, terror, a major event.

Yeah. That's how I felt about kind of. God, the first remake of Godzilla, the one from, like, 2013. Oh, with Matthew Broderick? No. And the Puff Daddy sound? No. Come with me.

And it's the cashmere sample. Yeah. No, I'm talking about the one with Brian. That's how I found out about Led Zeppelin. oh dude you just lost i mean you are you are near bankruptcy in terms of coolness right now you just you just went down you just vomited 90% your coolness that that's how you found out through let about led zeppelin through matthew broaderick's godzilla soundtrack featuring puff daddy sampling cashmere yeah i probably heard about them through fucking school of rock i mean with that

for example whoa really oh man no the song came out In 1998, I was nine years old. Okay, fair. And I obviously was a Puff Daddy fan. I mean, look at me. You know. I was of 11. You know, you know, nine-year-old me is rocking with Puff.

You're right. And I always wanted to play the song. And my dad was like, do you know what that is from? Yeah. I was like, Puff Daddy, idiot. Yeah, you stupid dad, you stupid idiot. Ray, fuck. God, my dad is so gay.

And that's how I found out about Ledzobie. Deppelin. Well, I think I first really found out about Led Zeppelin in ninth grade in high school and all the Christian, Christian guys who were on the surf team and the swim team. Oh, were they pissed about Led Zeppelin because they were demonic? No, they loved Led Zeppelin. And I remember they also loved Star Wars. And I remember I hadn't seen Star Wars yet. And this one kid named Colin was like, Colin, you haven't seen, you haven't seen Star Wars? Because I asked, what's the Millennium Falcon? And he punched me so hard in the stomach. You deserved it. I was like, God, dude, can you just tell me instead of hitting me for punishing me for not having seen this fucking thing? Anyway, Kanye West built a city, building a city, it's never going to get done. It won't, but he's a visionary and I think we should let him cook.

This is our last episode of the year. Is it? You got any... Before 20-24 turns. Yeah. Is there anything you want to say to the people? Thank you. why is that funny i don't know i being so sincere and like pouring my heart out no but really

thank you to everybody no i wasn't expecting to turn like this i'm in silly mode all right well don't turn i just want to yeah i'm i'm it's been a it's been a long year it's been a very uh it's been a healthy year it's been a long year uh yeah it's been very long but also very fast right man this this this i got to tell you folks this bonus episode is going to go nothing nut, because I got a lot to say. I think it's going to be weird. Why? I don't know.

Are you nervous about 2024? No. What's there to be nervous about? If he dies, he dies. Oh, no, not the election. Oh, no, I'm talking about just generally. Like, if we die, we die. Oh, I thought you said if he dies, we die.

Yeah, I was. I was quoting the Russian in Rocky. In Rocky, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah, thanks. I'm going to start saying that. If he dies, he dies. I like that.

You know what Mike Tyson says? If he dies, he dies? What does Mike Tyson say? Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face. Damn. Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face. I think that's a pretty good metaphor for life. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah, really. His whole thing was, you know, yeah, you can. can have a plan but you step in the ring you start getting punched in the face you know who had a plan u.s. steel but then they got acquired by nippon steel nippon steel's got a real plan well dude u.s. steel's been around since the 1800s and i think this was all uh and so now elan musk's going to be able to have the x symbol for for his precious company to to go public oh god yeah this one you thought he couldn't get any more annoying i wanted to talk about also

And also Chucky Cheese is for sale because they're looking to go to sell themselves for like a billion fucking dollars. Might have to be a bonus. And then I have some clips of me that I'll have to dig up. I'm Chuckie Cheese? As a child. Me getting sung to by the entire stats at Chuckie Cheese and a giant rat in a costume. I got photos of it and I got video of it now. Giant rat in a costume?

Yeah, Chuckie Cheese, dude. A giant rat in a human costume? Can you imagine? I can. Giant rat in a human costume? Yeah. That's actually terrifying. Well, I'm just, I'm just cutting through the, yeah.

So maybe I'll try to find it and pull it up for the bonus. Me, me as a child getting sung to it, Chuck E cheese. I can find it, actually. Okay. Well, we love you all, and we'll see you in 2024 unless we die. Happy New Year. Happy New Year.