The Ben and Emil Show - PP 3 - The Nerds Are Taking Drugs

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

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Well, here we are, folks. We got a, we got a brand new potato set up. It's a russet potato. It's a blue potato. It's a blue potato that I definitely, I do know that blue potatoes exist. Have you ever, you've flown JetBlue? Yes. They give you blue potatoes. Oh, yes. Those chips. Yeah, yeah. I think they taste so good. And by the way, we will, I saw your comments. You want me to talk about my top five plane crashes. We got them in the bonus episode. I am going to detail. Well, not, yeah. They're not in there yet. They'll be in there. Well, yeah, we haven't recorded them yet.

But, you know, JetBlue, I'm not a fan of flying them. You know why? The blue potato chips? No, not that. They put their media control thing in the arm of the seat. And you're constantly hitting it. You're changing the volume or that of your neighbors. Fall asleep and you got the headphones and watching a movie.

Yeah. And all of a sudden the volume goes through the roof. Yes. It's terrible. So we want to say thank you to Dylan. Thank you to Dylan. lending us is better potato and RIP to the one that we threw in the trash. Because it's useless.

Hmm. Yeah. Do you have anything to add? Yeah, I feel like we've been bad about doing the stuff up top that we need people to do. Like what? And I wish we wrote them down. Well, the tickets to the L.A. show, we added. Yes, that was one of the ones.

That was one of the ones. Yeah. So if you didn't get a ticket to the Los Angeles show on Sunday, August 6th, go to the link. We'll put it in the description by. There will be a description where you can get Link below tickets Yeah There will be a link to our Patreon if you want to watch

Ben describe his top five plane crashes Oh yeah There will be links to our socials What is this man I'm pointing to the bottom Yeah but you're pointing with three fingers Well because now there's three links in there For the audio listener this is extremely discerning

Because right now there's disconcerting A link to our live show A link to our Patreon Yes and that's it. Yeah, I guess. No, the socials maybe. Is your brain not fully functioning today?

My brain works, I think. Yeah, because you were saying, you were telling me the other day that you feel like there's some kind of thing going around that everybody's slowly getting where they're all kind of fucked up in the head and they can't really think. I didn't say that.

Yeah, you did. I said, I think there's a thing going, I'm sure people with keen ears can hear my sinus. There's something going on with my sinuses. Yeah, so apologies. Apologies to everybody out there who's got sensitive ears. We're aware of it just, you know. I got to get a netty pot or something.

Yeah. I was worried maybe the knee pills are fucking with my head or something. Really? I only got like two more days of them. Oh, man. Yeah, that's what it was. You thought that the knee pills were messing. I've been developing a kind of stutter or stammer lately.

I don't, I've been. Too much RFK impersonation, maybe? Well, he doesn't have a stutter or stammer. He's just got a voice. like that and that's it he's got the god i man if i ever had that i don't know what i would do i really don't i also think we've gotten to the bottom of it that it's fine for you to do the voice yeah everybody thank you for everybody who told me that it's okay to make fun of rfk juniors voice but no no no no see it's not or not make fun do an impression of right that's what i that is what

i meant yeah she says that is what i meant it's it's not okay to ridicule him for having that affliction right but yeah as we started thinking about i was like if this man were to win the presidency, is S&L all of a sudden going to be like, you know what? We are not doing presidential impressions anymore. How long are they going to have what's his face do Trump impressions? Because the guy who does it now.

James Austin something? Yeah. The guy with a 90s heartthrob name? You'd have to ask Lauren Michaels. Yeah. Well, we have a lot to get to, don't we? This is going to be, are we going to call this a test episode? Oh, yeah.

Wait, one more thing I wanted to say. Oh, man. Oh, God, what? People are being good about it. at like 2.2,000 reviews on Spotify. 2.2,000. But if you could jump in there, give us a little bit of a boost, like, comment, subscribe, do all the things. Oh, yeah, et cetera. If you, yeah, just, you know, do the thing. It helps. Do the thing. It's a new show. Yeah, yeah. And just a big thank you to everybody who's still out there and watching and listening because, uh, also is it fair to say this is not a test episode? Yeah, this is probably our first non-test episode. We

are going to experiment with doing different episodes setups. We're leaning toward two a week at like 30 minutes each and then a bonus of like an hour or something. But yeah, we're still figuring it out as we build out this set, the replica of your apartment. So what do you want to talk about first, Supreme Court? Sure. Why not? It's Fourth of July week, baby.

Should we salute our boys in black? That's our, that's the Supreme Court. They're the boys in black? Well, there's a few women on their, my man. Our boys and girls in black. Okay. Yeah, okay. I'll leave it at the, yeah, sure, our people in black.

Okay. What did they do? They fucked up? Well, they had quite a run. They're tackling, I think we can all agree that they are tackling the most important things that America is dealing with right now. I think they have their priorities straight, and they're definitely not engaging in any kind of partisan hackery or,

or, what's it called when they, it's these knee pills that I'm taking that are really fucking with my head. Do you have the knee pill brain? Yeah, I got knee pill brain. It's that thing where you're not following party lines, but just once you're in office, you swear that, oh, like when, before what's his name got um the the fucking breck cavanaugh before he got appointed he thought or he said i'm not gonna i don't know i'm i'm sure i'm a republican but i'm not going to bring that into the

supreme court i'm just and then as soon as he gets in it's just all right where's the gay people okay fuckers against the wall yeah you get you gaze well so that's the whole thing right it's supposed to be a neutral a neutral nonpartisan body but it hasn't been for a very long time but Yeah. So they've tackled student loans, affirmative action, and gay websites. Gay websites, man. The best websites there are. I do think our audience is probably most interested in the student loan stuff. Yeah, but we can, obviously, we need to touch on. We can jump into all that. Yeah, they're all, it's all bad. But yeah, the student loan stuff is very frustrating because from the beginning, you know, when when people started talking about Biden's authority to cancel student loans, everyone I heard talking about it was always pointing to one thing, which was his authority under the high. Education Act of 1965 and so you know that includes like the debt collective which is a big organization that you know tries to move the needle on this kind of stuff and then there's you know

the day one agenda from uh the american prospect and then even elizabeth warren had uh i think it was the the the harvard law school's legal center legal services center um they they released the paper pointing to Biden's authority in the Higher Education Act. So everyone was like, if he does this, it's going to be through the Higher Education Act. He instead used the Heroes Act. From 2001? 2003. You probably think that because it's in the wake of 9-11.

Of course. Which is what Trump used to pause these initially during COVID. During COVID. Right. To pause payments. So Biden was like, oh, fuck it. I'll just use this. Right.

Everyone was going, why not use? Because there's a difference. The Heroes Act is the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students Act of 2003. Initially, after the September 11th attacks, it gave the Secretary of Education the power to waive or modify any statutory or regulatory provision to protect borrowers affected by terrorist attacks. What the f? But then it was modified? Modified to also include a war or other military operation or national emergency. Which would be COVID?

it. Yeah. So it's a very vague definition. But he was also doing this at the same time as he was going out to tell Americans that like everything is back to normal. The economy is good. We are doing fine. Right. But I'm also using this as a national emergency to cancel student law. And so everyone's like, what is the fucking messaging on this dude? Yeah. Why not just use the Higher Education Act, which gives the Secretary of Education the authority to compromise, waive, or release any right title claim lien or demand however acquired, including any equity or right or any right of redemption. So he could just completely waive student debts that are owned by the federal government, which is like 95% of student loan debt at this point because the Obama administration

bought up a bunch of it. Right. So now, the Supreme Court has said that Biden did not have this authority to do it. He is, you know, blocking that program. And now Biden has said that he is going to use the Higher Education Act of 1965 as plan B, which should have been Plan A all along. But I mean, who knows how that's going to work for him now? It's, you know, it's funny. A lot of people write in and are like, we want answers on. What's going to go? I don't know. I mean, I'm in the same boat. I have student loans. They're going to turn them back on in October. I think it's going to be a mess. And, you know, so it's also this whole, this whole case was a mess. I mean, it never should have went through. They used Mojila, M-O-H-E-L-A, which is a student loan

servicer from Missouri. They've somehow gotten my loans. I used to have a different loan. And just without you knowing nothing, it just got transferred to them? I got an email saying, I have a new servicer, and now it's Mojila. Has your rate changed or anything like that? Well, it's paused for now, but... Yeah, everything's paused. Mojila. Is that an acronym?

Yeah, Missouri... Missouri, something higher education. Yeah, assholes. Assholes. Well, you know, and to be clear, so basically they were saying, and, you know, they were looking for a plaintiff anywhere. They were, they, there was a lot of lawsuits that just got tossed out. For example, there was someone who was saying, you know, well, we have standing because, which basically means that you're like actually impacted by this. And if you were to sue and win, the relief you would win would address this problem, right? So they were saying, well, I never had a chance to make public comment on this kind of stuff. So, and if I, if I were to be able to, do that, there's a chance we might get more relief. And so the relief they were seeking was

blocking Joe Biden's student loan plan. I'm so confused. So there were basically plaintiffs who wanted to sue to block this program. Right. Saying it was unfair. Mojillo was. No, no, no. These were other plaintiffs who got thrown out. Got it. Who clearly didn't have standing. Got it. But then they thought they found a plaintiff with Mojila because they stand to lose $44 million. in servicing fees if the loan cancellation goes through. But it wasn't Mojila who sued. It was Missouri, which it doesn't make sense, right? Mojila is not a plaintiff in the case.

They didn't even know about the case until hearing news reports. They were saying, oh, we wouldn't sue on this. They also don't even have the authority to sue because the contract they signed to accept federal student loans for servicing stipulates explicitly that the government has sold discretion to remove contracts from servicers, that the contractor cannot object or protests, and that the contractor waves and releases all current or future claims related to this. So, I mean, the whole thing is a fucking mess? I mean, it's just very obvious that, you know, there are people who are patently against this program to give relief to student

borrowers. Because they're saying to make a lot of money. Yeah. And they were going to take any opportunity they could to shut it down. And so, you know, I'm, I don't know how successful Biden's plan B will be. I don't think it'll be successful at all. I think, I think, I mean, I think October's going to be a fucking mess when they turn, when they turn them back on. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that'll be fun. But stay here. We'll, we'll have it all, we'll cover that all when it happens yeah and laugh at um just the fucking oh man this is going to be a fucking mess jesus christ i'm just so glad i don't have any student loans yeah it's not thank you to my grandma and also i went to a cheap state school it didn't cost fucking anything cost like i don't

even know how much 20 000 total yeah the whole damn thing um but probably not great timing for Biden either, considering the election coming up. Yes, there's that. It's not great to tell 45 million people, hey, we're going to take care of you. Yeah. And then be like. I'm starting to think that Gavin Newsom is going to actually be the Democratic nominee. I don't know.

I just say, I have a feeling. So I'm making that prediction here and now. It's going to be Gavin Newsom. Unless they do, unless something happens, the Biden, I can't, like they're not going to turn it, they're back on him. I don't know, man. I mean, maybe they will. Falls down.

I feel like they're going to start turning. in their back on him. He's, he's very disliked. I think the, the toothpaste has come out of the tube and you can't put it back. Is that, are you talking about Hunter Biden? Taking, taking, there's, there is that. Taking video selfies of him driving at like 177 miles per hour while smoking crack. Is that what just came out over the weekend? Yeah. Yeah. Wait, so for those of you don't know, yeah, why don't you tell us, Emil? No, I mean, I mean, it's video of 100, by, Well, it's also that there was an article from the New York Times. It was a big, it just kind of got, I don't know, not buried, but I mean, it's a holiday weekend.

I don't know why the New York Times would release such a big expose on the Biden family over the weekend. But it feels very, it feels very damning just coming from the New York Times that they would put out essentially a hit piece on the Biden family. I mean, I don't know if it's a hit piece. It's like they're just reporting on Hunter Biden. it's like right but if you're going and i hate to sound like this but if you're going with the narrative that the new york times is you know a liberal left-leaning publication that supports the current administration the lying new york times the lying no the failing new york times they are absolutely they got my annual subscription now just for the games i'm playing that spelling bee

man and i might cancel i don't i'm not having fun with it anymore okay but what was your point Just that they put out this article that feels very, not nail in the coffinie, but it's... Oh, it's not... I mean, we've known this guy's... I mean, is it any different than, like, seeing him... It feels different coming from the New York Times. They've been reporting on it.

This is not the first time they reported on it. I guess, but it feels like... When they're reporting on it in conjunction with Fox News and Newsmax and all that stuff, it feels... I think it's got to a point where it's like they just... Yeah, have to. So it's a video, there's a video of, can we, can we pull that up? A video of Hunter Biden speeding on the freeway?

I hope it's the freeway over 100 miles an hour while smoking crack. I hope we don't get restricted calling, saying, calling out smoking crack. 172 miles per hour on his way to. What kind of car is he driving? What is he in a Ferrari? It's a Porsche. That's pretty cool. So Hunter Biden supposedly filmed himself with a pipe regularly used for smoking crack while he drove a car at 172 miles per hour on his way to Las Vegas.

All of this is according to thousands of pictures that were recently uploaded, and that seemed to come from Hunter Biden's discarded laptop. Man, poor Joe Biden must be so, like, because, okay, this is, bear with me here. But when you have a family member who is an addict who is beyond helping, they're in talk to anybody who's had a family member. myself included, who's an addict, there comes a point where you almost, you don't want them to die, obviously, but you have way in the back of your mind, do you know what I'm getting at? It's not like a hope or wishing, but just knowing that, okay, there's nothing I can do, and at some point they are going to succumb to their addiction, and it will be a tragic weight off of my shoulders, and I bet

that Joe Biden has felt that for over a decade of just, my son keeps fucking up. Also, he's invincible. He's just, he's like, Hunter Biden? Yeah, he's absolutely invincible. He's driving in 170 miles

while smoking crap. It's like he knows that he can't. I don't want to get, like, I'm trying to find it from like a very reputable, they're all like. The video of him driving? Yeah. this is like mark but i can't find the video and this is photos i mean it is clearly a picture of him

holding a crack pipe in a car but i'm like how do they know he was going 172 miles an hour maybe there's a picture of the speedometer yeah i mean if joe biden's to if hunter biden is taking thousands of pictures he's also he's also such a teenage girl he's just documented truly stop taking pictures of yourself doing crack man yeah this is from a spanish news site and it's it seems so fast because it's in kilometers. Hunter Biden filmed himself smoking crack behind the wheel driving at 276 kilometers per hour. Okay, yeah, that's

how much is that? 200. Well, it's 172. Oh, wow. Okay. Because that's how fast. Jeez, Louise. I mean, good luck and Godspeed to Hunter Biden. Don't... Well, I mean, it's really pick your poison, right? You've got Trump who wants to fuck his daughter. And then... Does he still...

You know, people have been posting those pictures of him, like... ... interacting with her, and it's like, this is fucking gross yeah well and he famously said you know if if if she weren't my daughter i'd probably i'd probably be dating her something like that yeah i he didn't say i'd fuck her but it's implied so the supreme court also continued on their path with uh gay being a completely neutral body politically neutral i'm so tired of the whole the the well that's the funny thing Biden has been, you know, they've been asking him if he's, if he would take any, any actions to, you know, counter this, whether it's, you know, ignoring rulings or adding justice to the court. And he's like, well, I wouldn't want to take any actions that would politicize the court. It's like, my God, my guy. That's what pisses me off also. Don't you think we're past that? In, in Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Bravo.

You're pissed about Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Yeah. Why? Because she selfishly wanted to what she could have. She could have retired. But it still would have been 5-4 at this point. Still, man, it's better than it's better. Is it? I don't know. Yes. They're all voting down party line.

Yeah, but at least you get one more so when the next Republican guy. At least they wouldn't be getting their dicks completely pushed in. Yeah. She really, she really fucked it for. Yeah. She really did. I mean, that was truly just retire while we've got Obama. Right.

So they also struck down affirmative action for the. these elite institutions. Yeah, which, wow. Well, so they struck it down. They said that you can, that applicants can still discuss race as it's part, as it's an inextricable part of their upbringing in their experience, but that colleges are no longer allowed to include race in considering, admitting students. And it was implemented right after the civil rights movement happened. and it has been it's been a right-wing talking point ever since basically saying like whoa why this is reverse racism

this is reverse racism well that's the point they're saying even even discrimination of this of this kind is it's still discrimination even if you want to call it benign discrimination it's still unconstitutional but I mean we'll see a lot of people are going to be scrambling to figure this out I mean, this is going to be, this really affects the top elite institutions here

because you have places like Harvard where there are too many qualified candidates for a class of, what, 1600? You know, I don't know, hard for me to, you know, I think they should abolish the Ivy League anyway and, you know, distribute these insane endowments. Stephen Miller, the former, what was he? He was just an advisor, senior advisor to Trump. He put out a video on his, he's got this new legal group called America First Legal. And they are, they sent a letter to threaten, they sent a legal threat letter to every law school in America saying comply with the Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action or we'll see you in court. And it's this 37. second. So how should we can we fucking we'll just play it when

in post and it'll be up there or something. But it's very funny. He's just standing squinty-eyed in front of some marble columns just saying they better you guys better follow through with this or we will America First will sue you and if anybody out there wants to

work with America First we will be open for receiving resumes. I mean that's I mean it's a joke but It's not a joke. It's very, it's very real. You're making fun of them, but it's, yeah, it's very real. And that's going to start trickling into, you know, corporations and all these things.

There are tons of corporations with the DEI initiatives and having certain goals set where they want to a particular diversity of the board, you know, whether that's race or gender. They were blaming that. They were blaming diversity hires for a minute on the, on the Titan submers. Because apparently they, the CEO said he doesn't like hiring boring middle-aged white men or something. So all the right-wingers were going, well, if you hadn't had done that, if you hadn't had a black teenage girl in charge, which they didn't, but just that kind of. I'm going to let a black teenage girl run all my ventures. Including this one? If you are a black teenage girl, please send us an email with you.

your qualifications, we will hire you based on. So we can get sued by Stephen Miller. I want every elite college to be Asians only. Yeah. And I want every podcast to be run by black women, teenagers. Sounds good. But where do all the white men go? A death camp I've set up. That's cool, man. The other one that the Supreme Court was deciding on, again, very important stuff, very crucial to the functioning of this country is they ruled that it was a Christian web developer did not have to make a website for a gay guy or something. A gay marriage. Yeah, I got excited at first because I thought they were outlawing marriage websites and I was like, good. No more. I don't want to see your

fucking wish list. Yeah. What are they actually called? Registries. fucking bullshit. I'm going to give you cash. Well, I, I, I, so here's what, what's surprising to me is, yeah, by the way, I just give cash for a wedding gift. I'm not buying you spoons. You go, you go by them. I will give you the money.

You go buy the spoons. I already came out here, put a fucking suit on. Yeah, yeah. I got a lug spoons in. Thank you. But I would feel so bad having a gift registry. They're, they make me, I would feel so guilty. like, you know, I like this one.

Do you want to just buy it for me? I like it. It feels. If anybody wants to buy this vacuum too, it's like $500. It feels very gross. It feels gross, especially because I already have all. I remember I went to one whereas they wanted to, I think they wanted their honeymoon to be like traveling around the world. And so they were just like specifically asking for just funding this.

Cash. That's fine. But I like that. I don't, don't tell me what you're going to do with it. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Just make it a honeymoon fund. Don't be around the world in first class. It'd be like someone setting up a go fund me and being like,

I want to travel around the world, so donate to this. Right. But it's for your wedding. But just because you got married doesn't mean I have to fucking pay for you to go. Subsidize your shit. Right, I will because of social pressure. And you'll also probably statistically get shmivorst. Probably.

Yeah. Probably on that trip. Maybe you shouldn't have traveled so much. Anyway, the Supreme Court ruling, excuse me, I'm a little burpee, it's surprising to me because I believe there are ruling states that that Christian web developer, by the way, who I just got, I don't know who identifies as a Christian web device. It's probably, I don't. Who am I? First, I'm Christian. Yeah.

Second, web developer. I'm a techie. God first? HTML second. They're saying that it means that the Christian web developer would be complicit in gay marriage, which goes against their beliefs or something along those lines. It's essentially saying that in participating in building the website, they would be partaking in some way, shape, or form.

the gay marriage. So pray tell, well, how come the same logic doesn't apply to gun manufacturers or gun sellers? If someone takes that gun and then goes and murders someone, doesn't that same... This is a wonky. It's not the same kind of logic. I was just throwing it out there.

I was just seeing if that worked. I don't know if it does. Take it from thought. No, no, no, I think that that's it. But God bless the gay guy who wanted that website built. What we got to do is we've got to get guns to the gay Christian web developers.

Yes. Or no. No. Who needs the guns? Everybody. Get a gun to everybody. Yeah. Well, yeah.

Everybody. Yeah. That's a conversation for another time. The other thing that we wanted to talk about today, drugs. We got to be careful not to get age restricted. You're allowed to talk about drugs? Well, you're allowed to talk about it. You're not allowed to show imagery.

of drugs, because we almost got age restricted on our very first video, because we had images pop up of drugs. That's say due drugs. They didn't say do drugs. It was just flashed. Children. Well, we should mark this all as educational. I don't know if they have that. Can you just mark it? Hashtag. Put a hashtag on it. It'll be fine. Well, as if they couldn't already ruin everything already. The tech guys are ruining drugs now, too. They're not really, but they're, it's now. They're. They're ruining. everything. Yeah, I mean, yeah, they've been ruining everything for a long time. But this comes from Elon. Two gentlemen who enjoy recreational. Two. Me and you. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. We, yeah, we do. We do. We enjoy the recreational.

Famously enjoy doing them in psychedelics. Inopportune times. Fuck, man. Yeah. But so that's, there's a story from the Wall Street Journal. Magic Mushrooms, LSD, ketamine, the drugs that power Silicon Valley. I also don't know how to say it. I'll never learn. I don't care how many times you guys say it wrong. Silicon. Someone told me that I'm doing it wrong too.

I know. They said both of us. It's Silicon. Silicon. Silicon. Silicon. Silicon pronunciation. Also, if you're pissed off about me having the computer here, suck it.

Wait, let's see. He does have a cartoonishly large. It's correctly pronounced as either Silicon or. Yeah. Okay. So, wow. No, you're saying it wrong. You're saying silicon.

Don't point it like that. You're saying silicon. It is silicone. It is silicon. Silicon. Or silicon. I like silicon. Silicon. Yeah.

It sounds like a convention for... But not cone. It ain't ice cream, buddy. The same waffle or sugar. It's Silla. Silicon is like the... Yeah, actually. Yeah.

That's with an E at the end. Right. I remember my friend had one of those keyboard wrist rest things that was made of silicone. They said I need to get one for my tennis album. Well, this was when I was in middle school and I remember looking around and honking it, thinking, is this what they feel like? Is this what boobies feel like?

You thought boobs had a bunch of keys on them, computer keys? No, no, it wasn't the keyboard. It was just a thing to rest your... What the hell kind of computer keyboard are you thinking of that? It's got buttons made of... Oh, no, no. I thought... Because the one I'm talking about is it's a literal...

It looks like a pyramid almost, and it has... You're doing this to type. Oh, yeah, that's another... That's some weird one. I thought you thought because it was somewhat cone-shaped. It was, all right, well, anyway. Jeez, dude. So Elon Musk is, see what I'm talking about?

Do you see it? My brainworms are, like, dehydrated or something. But he tweeted that he takes ketamine, both recreationally, or like in small amounts and then full-on doses, and said that he feels like ketamine is a way better way to deal with depression than antidepressants that are, quote, zomifying people. Right. Which is another, I mean, it's one of those right-wing talking points that has now become so prevalent. They've now leaned into antidepressants instead of, as the culprit of

mass shootings instead of anything else. It's now, while he was on Prozac, he was on da-da-da. Which, sure, they, I don't know. Is there evidence that that could be a common denominator? sure. But to say, I don't know, I've been on, I've been on Lexapro for a few years. Do I seem amplified to you? Yeah. And you used to send me text messages like, countdown starts now from when my grand plan happens. What? Yeah. And you would send me images of guns and I'd go, Jesus, dude. This, yeah. He's going, no, this is true if for the FBI. Holy shit. It's probably the Lexapro. The only side effects I experienced personally was when I initially started, I could not stay awake.

I would have to take two or three naps in the afternoon. And also, man, I had quite an appetite. I was eating a lot. And, yeah, otherwise, totally fun. But having also taken ketamine, I don't know. Well, so here's what we're talking about. All right, routine drug use has moved from an after-hours activity squarely. into corporate culture, leaving boards and business leaders to wrestle with their responsibilities

for a workforce that frequently uses. At the vanguard are tech executives and employees who see psychedelics and similar substances among them, psilocybin, ketamine, and LSD as gateways to business breakthroughs. Oh, yeah. Leave it to them to use it for business. You're such a fucking dork. Jesus Christ. I don't know about Sergey Brin though. Sergey Brin, one of the co-founders of Google does mushrooms sometimes and I don't know if you or anyone out there has ever experienced this but when you're when you're doing really well in life and you're feeling good about where you are and you take something like mushrooms it feels fucking awesome and you kind of just have a moment where you go dang life is really good I cannot imagine what it's like you know you have

like that ego death and you kind of forget who you are and where you are and you just feel good But then it comes back like, oh, yeah, I got, I got all my needs, man. I got this and this and this. I cannot imagine how it must feel to be fucking Sergey Brin on mushrooms going, holy fuck. I changed the course of human history. I am a multi-billionaire. I never have to worry about anything ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Yeah, maybe he's got a guilty conscious.

Yeah, maybe. You said conscious, it's conscience. Jesus Christ, what is this the fucking, like, pronunciation hour? hey I would expect the same conscience conscience conscience yeah conscience is I don't care I don't care I bet it would be I bet it would be a good time because you know that they're doing it in their Malibu Beach House their Malibu Barby Beach House no it fucking sucks because you have to hang out with the worst people in the world and they're all trying to do this it's like some entrepreneurs microdose to derive benefits often in hope of alleviating anxiety or sharpening focus other

tech said they take full doses of a drug using the term macro dose as they try to reach a high that will lead to a new disruptive idea. You try to come up with a disruptive idea around me? I'll tell you what, I'm going to disrupt your underwear in your pants. I'm going to disrupt your life. You're breathing. They're all trying to, like, they're all trying to copy. What a fucking bummer. They're all hoping to have a Steve Jobs kind of thing because he famously took LSD and invented and he thought one day he was doing LSD under an apple tree and thought damn I should build a computer or damn I should put a thousand songs on a little box but so now they're all just like fucking ripping psychedelics yeah and being like you know well they're

partying and now that so Bob Lee the cash app founder that was that was killed was part of something called quote the lifestyle which which is just fucking come on An underground party scene in San Francisco, which was, you know. Well, throw up some images. Did you, did you see some of these poster images? Show me. They look like porn. They look like, here, I'll text it to you right now.

They, we'll throw some up here. But they look, they look like porno flyers that you'd see on the ground in, in Las Vegas. They're just, can you, do you even have it? A text? Man, this is pretty good. This is a pretty good setup we got here. So like, here's one. Mrs. Claus is by.

It's the eighth annual. Mrs. Claus is by. Join Mrs. Claus and her friends for the sexiest holiday event in the Bay Area with DJ Tony Rocks. Oh my God. This New Year's Eve one. The bronze party.

They're like shitty. They're saying that a bunch of tech people are going to these fucking things. I don't know. I don't know if I, I guess they are. Jesus Christ. Dude, I don't know if you've ever spent

any time in San Francisco. It is the worst place in the world. To party? To party. Yes. This is, okay, so here's this writer, Emily Chang, has a book called Brotopia, breaking up the Boys Club of Silicon Valley. She describes big shots bragging, quote,

about how they're overturning traditional paradigms in their private lives just as they do in the technology world they rule. I can't, it feels, it's so farcical. I can't imagine someone. Doing psychedelics and being that blissfully devoid of self-awareness is just shocking to me that they're that still egotistical, like, well, I'm doing acid and I'm overturning traditional paradigms in my private life, just like I did with my company, cash app or whatever. It's so insane to have those thoughts while you're fucking flying on LSD. Yeah, stop thinking. It's such a bastardization misuse of the drugs.

LSD should be used to go on game shows. No. Like I did. It should be used to go on a game show. Go into nature. And go into nature and laugh. We're doing everything wrong. Yeah.

We should burn down the Google offices. So there's this other guy, Josh Powers, who is a very real name. Josh Powers, who runs a San Francisco fetish club called Power Exchange. He says, he says, attendees may go there with another person. and have other people watch them. There is a correlation between our true players and tech pushing out the culture in San Francisco. We attract people from the tech world. He said that some parties aimed at picky techies vet the people who are allowed to attend

and participate. Many of them will have you submit pictures showing what you look like and who you are. Some are status-based aimed at high-level individuals. God, man, it just, yeah, one of the top sex gatherings for those in the tech field is a recurring swinger's scene event known as the bronze party and there's some flyers up there too but so

that guy this is our fault for letting nerds take over our culture I mean truly they run everything and it's it's it's it fucking sucks man it really does confused about what's cool

they're just like I don't know like Bazingas and Banzongas you mean Buzongas I can't believe I just corrected you on Buzongas versus his I mean, just looking at these, like, flyers and stuff, it's like, what if you, like, put a stock image of a kink woman on there?

It's, I would think that it would be like, what's that, what's that movie with Tom Cruise, eyes wide shut, something a lot more discreet and cool and kind of sketchy, but it's truly just, it's just like a shitty college warehouse party flyer. Oh, it's awful. yeah well so bob lee apparently yeah it looks like it looks like he probably got killed by i mean we know that he was probably killed by this guy uh khazar what's his name kazar momini yeah and no that's that's his sister this is sorry so here's a photo of his did you see the photo of the guy's she's very hot and it sounds like the guy was pissed off that bob lee was plug in his sister right and then stabbed him to death well and the best part is when all this happened it was like all these tech guys going san francisco's out of control we need to you know

we need to have them the police out in the street shooting homeless people and then it turns out it's just it's just tech people they're the problem yeah um also just i imagine that there are worse people in the world than a tech founder and who's your friend, fucking your sister? Like my sister's married, but if you, for example, were having, God, I don't want to say it. If you were fucking my sister, I'd be like, yeah, okay, I'm not going to stab you over it. But I'm not a tech guy. Yeah. Well, that would be even better.

You'd be like, okay, you're going to take care of my sister. That's great. For the, I don't have to worry about my sister. Like, if you had a sister, or your brother, if I was fucking your brother, if I was fucking your brother, Would you be pissed? Would you stab me over it? Depends. Are you treating them right?

Yeah, I'm true. Of course I'm treating them right. Oh, then no. I love your brothers. I love your brother so much. No problems. Okay. See, there you go.

Wait, so the best part about this article is that they briefly allude to the former Zappos CEO. Tony Hase. I don't know how to say. I don't know how you pronounce his last thing. Try it. Hase. Okay. That's probably, that's probably right.

So in the article, they say, uh, they can do it. Well, they talk about how, Emil thinks it's very funny. That's, that's,

this guy's death and demise. No, it's funny because they hardly touch on it and they just go, yeah, some people take it too far. For example, Tony Hase or whatever. Yeah.

And they don't really elaborate on it, but they do hyperlink to a different article about here, about him. And you're like, holy shit, you really buried the lead. He didn't only take it too far. It's absolutely nuts. Okay. He died in late 2020 following injuries in a house fire. Um, you know, his brother Tony, the mastermind and former chief executive of Zappos Inc had locked himself inside a shed with a propane space heater and canisters of nitrous oxide, a mind altering gas he habitually

used. He asked Andy for five more minutes and then he just, then they just started seeing smoke come out of the windows and stuff and tried to break in to get him out. but he that's how he died yes in a fucking it wasn't a fire you just but no no he died from injuries of the from the fire

Jesus he was taken to the hospital and put on life support he'd been doing ketamine a lot leading up to that yeah but it gets surrounded by enablers it gets nuts okay

so he really thought so for most of the year before his death the retired 46 year old and this is the thing that kills me okay we're talking about a fucking online shoe company

okay so this guys well actually it's pretty sexy or the fucking do we need this a shoe company do we need a guy who's fucking getting blitzed so he can have the next cutting edge idea for how to make shoes get to your

house faster that's just the age old question is it okay for Michael Jackson to dittle kids so we get thriller that is one question for most of the year before his death the retired 46 year old entrepreneur, bankrolled an assembly of longtime friends, former Zappos employees, and aspiring musicians who had followed him to Park City, Utah. The entourage lived in and around Mr.

Hizier's 13,350 square foot mansion, a dozen or so men and women drawing salary and commissions from his $840 million fortune. He had offered to double the existing salaries of people who moved to Park City to work for him. Okay, so he's assembled all these people who are going to be able to, like, come up with the next big thing, right? The group was ostensibly in the service of Mr. Just say Tony. Yeah, Tony, who was searching for his next big project and hoping he could help people live in harmony and discover their true purpose.

In practice, Tony stood at the center of a communal enterprise where followers enabled his drug and alcohol habits while jockeying for control of projects that paid financial rewards. He was worth $850 million. And people are just fucking bleeding him dry. Oh, yeah. So Tony believed inhaling nitrous oxide, legal for medical and industrial uses, would help people reach spiritual enlightenment, and he wanted to attract the like-minded to live in Park City. He paid for a 34-minute video to show newcomers espousing the intoxicating gas and its use by 19th century philosopher William James. Tony had scribbled in a cardboard box that what he described as an algorithm that would bring world peace and showed it to visitors.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I know. I'm not trying to laugh. This guy who, I mean... This poor guy had an algorithm for what he thought would bring about world peace. He had scribbled in a cardboard box. Yeah, on a cardboard box. What he described as an algorithm that would bring world peace.

Where? I mean, we got to get a hold of that fucking cardboard box. That's why they killed him, man. They killed him. He knew too much. He knew too much. You figured out the algo. I don't.

Like, where would you plug it in? Where, where's the software that would run it? Let's get a calculator and figure it out. I mean, it's also anyone who's done fucking whippets knows, you know, I felt like I could have. Really? I just felt like, damn, I could use a cigarette. Not, I got it. The mathematical answer to world peace.

But it sounds fucking disgusting. So seeking to be close to nature. Tony's group at one point gave up cleaning inside and out, and dog droppings littered the property. Fossets ran constantly to mimic waterfalls. With that kind of money, couldn't you just build? Just make a waterfall. Just make a waterfall.

Jesus. Was anybody... Just dog shit everywhere, faucets running? Fuck me, man. Ugh. It... Jesus Christ. I mean,

And the best thing is they all kind of knew what was going on. So during police interviews after the fire, a member of the Park City entourage told an officer that he and his fiance worked for Tony. The business, he told the officer, didn't have a name. And then this is in quotes, I asked how the business makes money, and he laughed, saying that he didn't mean business in that way, as in making money. Oh, no, officer. No, no, no, no.

I didn't mean business in that way as I'm making money. Not that type of business. You fucking idiot. No, I meant it in like a paradigm shifting dog shit all over the floor, leave on the sinks kind of way to really expand our minds. No, no, no, no, we do whippets around here and take advantage of this, this tech guy with a fucking addiction problem. Thank you for your concern, officer. I mean, in the sense that there's a couple dozen of us. Yeah, mentally abusing a dog shit.

Yeah, yeah. Jesus Christ. This is one of those situations where I wish I was there just to kind of go, what the fuck are you guys doing? And just kind of snap them out of it. But I think everyone would like, shut the fuck up. Like, don't fuck this up for us. Yeah, don't fuck up our vibe, man. We got a, we got an $850 million ATM here.

It's like the guy who was abusing my grandma in the last 15 years of her life. Is that real? Yeah, we couldn't do anything about it. She had a boyfriend named Bill, and he was just writing himself checks, and my uncles couldn't do shit about it, and it was the only thing. Because there were, they weren't, they were not executors, or something. Basically, they had access to. Did they have power of attorney or something?

They did, but basically there was nothing that they could do. Because at the end of the day, she was writing, she was signing checks. There were checks written to him for like $15,000, $20,000. And it would be his handwriting for the check. But then my grandma's scribbled signature. And my uncle's, like, consulted lawyers and stuff and said, is there anything, like, clearly she's got dementia and there's nothing, she's not in her right mind.

And they said, well, here's what would happen. You'd have to go to court with her. And the judge would ask her, hey, who do you want to, like, take care of you and stuff? And naturally, she's going to say, Bill, the guy that's been taking care of. There was nothing we could do except watch this guy just milk my grandma. Okay, that's a bad way of phrasing it. Yeah, no. Suck her dry?

No. Anyway. So here's an interesting. Oh, wait. This is the last thing. And then I'm done with Tony. Tell me. But no, it's just, but so you're talking about like snapping them out of it.

They do, they, it feels like they did buy into it and to a certain degree because they, they follow up with like what was going on after the, after his death. And they say, while Tony lay unconscious in the hospital, his followers in Park City and those with him in New London appeared to carry on as normal. One entry from an assistant schedule noted, cleaned after the fire, dealing with police and fire department priorities this week, getting a quote on wrapping the tree on the patio with Ellie. D lights would really add to the space. Oh, man. What a blissful life it must be. I, uh, these people, they really, you could argue that they know how to have fun.

Do they? I don't know. If they, man, if I'm like doing drugs and there's just dog shit everywhere and the fucking sinks are on, that's a bad vibe. Yeah, but I guess if you're hopped up the whole time, you probably don't care. Look at trap houses and stuff. Wait, is that what a trap house is? Or is that where people go to listen to music?

Is a trap house where they do drugs? Don't look at me like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, so the... Park City is nice, too. Probably, you know, get out of the dog shit smell. It is part of a, it is part of a psychedelics are,

have slowly become something that a lot of people are investing in. So the value of the psychedelic drug market, which, is engaging in research and trials to legalize its use is expected to reach 11.8 billion by 29 up from just under $5 billion in 2022. And Founders Fund, which is a famous VC fund, has an ownership stake in Compass Pathways, which is a public company researching commercial psilocybin development. And its co-founder Peter Petal Teal is personally invested in Atai, A-Tai Life sciences, which is also publicly traded, that's developing psychedelics for mental health.

Which, look, don't get me wrong. I don't think either of us are against that. Like, you know, letting, getting more access to people who might be helped by these things. I take issue with turning everything into a, like, productivity motivator. It's like, oh, depressed at work, like, how can I mean, that's anything like that. I remember when, like, meditation was all the rage for employees and you know we got to give them wellness breaks not because it's the right thing to do but because you know studies are showing that if we give them 15 minutes of meditation they're more productive if we you know if we lead them on meditation retreats and stuff there's there's uh more employee retention and they're not and it's like oh dude i worry about them what we're

supposed to be doing i worry about them doing what they did with not that it's the same thing exactly but when as marijuana has gotten more and more legalized, it's just gotten way, way, way more potent to the point where it is not enjoyable, where it's just everything gives you a fucking panic attack and induces psychosis. Yeah. I know that it's not the same thing necessarily,

but they'll figure out a way to fuck it up. They will figure out a way to make it. I'm sure they can make way stronger mushrooms. I really hope they don't. I mean, as you'll see in the bonus episode when I talk about plane crashes, there is always a way for corporations to want to cut corners in order to save money but then end up causing a lot more pain and suffering and things for people down the line, which is fucking awesome.

Speaking of cutting corners, I did want to share this fun Tesla full self-driving mishap with Ross Gerber on MSNBC. So Ross Gerber. He's in the passenger seat and the guy slams before. Yes. Yep. But so Ross Gerber, for those of you who don't know.

Baby food ass name. Baby food ass name. I actually had a meeting with him years ago when I hit it big in the markets and wanted to, I don't know, I wanted to try to get a job as a trader somewhere. And I thought, I thought that I could maybe interview with him to become a trader at his place. He thought that I was coming to him as a fund manager

and wanted to like take me on as a client so it was this funny miss he's a he's a nice guy but he is one of the biggest most vocal Tesla bulls out there and he kind of got caught not kind of but fully got caught bullshitting about Tesla yeah full self-driving um wait what did I say his name was Ross Gerber yeah yeah it's it's Ross Gerber okay so how do we do this with watching this how am I going to do this he's just fuck this is so hard play it but play it but play it quietly yeah this is still a test episode here i'll just crank it up how about that and he he looks Dylan looks apprehensive the look on his face he's like constantly looking up and looking around here we go so you know when you drive

as a beta tester you're you're not supposed to be like oh let's see how it does with the other humans in this intersection so there was no like thought process and that's what i'm saying um so we took dan o'dad for a ride on full self driving in santa barbara last week and we drove for like an hour all through santa barbara without any disengagement through the entire ride it was really one of the best full self driving drives we've ever had so he's full of shit because he just said without any problems at all and then but i think he's talking about until no even then watch I disengaged. Because I've seen this one.

I guess. Oh. Oh. There we go. I was trying to take Dan home. So after an hour of dealing with this guy and not having any disengagement. I disengaged. How was you?

Frankly. I was like kind of rushing to get him home. And there's this, uh, there's this, uh, bit of a curve football I got a Yeah I was like I need to show an example of disengaging Like I was like trying to find

A scenario where I would have to do it And because the other humans were involved And the lady cut me off a little bit She kind of cut both of us off I just disengaged But once again that's a reaction As a driver you would just take anyways He fully

It fully runs a stop sign Right Going like 30 miles per hour And it's just very clear that's very amusing to me rather than stopping at the intersection it just wanted to gun it through it yeah also the look we've all been there tesla yeah the big news from this weekend was that uh twitter announced i think it's a temporary limit on the amount of said yeah a limit on the amount of tweets you could view if for twitter blue people subscribers you get

six thousand and if you're just a regular old twitter user it's 600 a lot of people people have complained about hitting the limit i've not hit it once i hit the limit on my tweet deck because i i i have a tweet deck i use tweet deck for this for my for my for my finance twitter list that i've curated so it's constantly refreshing because it's basically my news feed right and it's it's it's it hit its limit so but they're doing it because they up until now they were their API was free for third parties to use and now they're charging they're kind of doing Some places are like $42,000 a month. Yeah.

So that'll be fun to see how that shakes out. But isn't it also unclear exactly what's happening? A lot of people are speculating that he fucked something up. Well, he said, Elon Musk said that, which is extra confusing because he's not in charge anymore, I thought. He said it's from data scraping. From bots and AI companies that are taking advantage and it's costing them a ton of money. So who knows?

And everyone's, I mean, it's the fucking, it's the viral tweet of. every time Elon Musk fucks up and slams his dick in the car door so his followers go masterful gambit sir because I've already seen you know I've seen videos from

there's one where a guy's walking it's in LA he's walking he's on a hiking trail he's like let me just tell you why what he did was beautiful okay because if you care about if you care about surveillance at all if you care about blah blah at all all right he's basically just fucked over that

oh the guy who's hiking in a full like black collared shirt with the button buttoned all the way up yeah oh yeah that guy's fucking got a normal brain I mean it was like eight minutes long I had to put it on 2x speed and just what the fuck are you been trying to know well that's that that that about

wraps it up I think for this episode we'll we'll be talking about my top five put up a graphic here top five the plane crashes in the bonus episode to patreon.com slash paypigs. Oh, it's going to be a doozy. No, that's paypigs pod. Pay, pay, pigs pod. Fuck. God damn it. Fuck. If you haven't subscribed to the YouTube channel,

please do so now. None of you are watching anymore. And if you're still watching, you're an absolute fucking sicko. Wait, let me make sure that's right. It's pay pigs pod. It's pay pigs pod. Yeah. It's not good. And a huge shout out to Dylan, as usual. We love Dylan. We love Dylan. There he goes. There he goes. And we'll see you next week Okay, cut I'm gonna fucking pee I'm gonna fucking pee