The Ben and Emil Show - PP Episode 13: Project 2025 - The Republican plan to seize power in America

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

Project 2025 is a dense, meticulous plan outlined by the Heritage Foundation for how the Republican party can take back the white house and control every aspect of government and ensure that it stays ...that way. We take a deep dive into what they believe, and how they believe they can accomplish exactly that. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Folks, you just missed it. We just had the most chaotic start. Oh, man. Every single time. Every single time we do this because Emil's computer just doesn't want to participate. It wants to participate. It doesn't. It wants to participate so badly.
Starting point is 00:00:17 We get this crazy feedback echo thing because. And even though the setting is correct and it says it's correct, it's doing something else. It's doing whatever it wants to do. I have a bone to pick with Steve Jobs' ghost. Is he, is he? cremated? Yes, he's passed on. No, we know that, but is he cremated? Is Steve Jobs
Starting point is 00:00:35 cremated? Steve Jobs, who was known to have an interest in Buddhism, was indeed buried after his death rather than... Okay, so we got to go dig him up. We got to go dig him up. To do what? To get him to fix this, because only he could fix this. I guess you could just write an email to the other guy,
Starting point is 00:00:53 Tim Cook. Yeah, it's probably more on Tim Cook's shoulders at this point than Steve Jobs. It feels Yeah, well, because Steve Jobs is famously dead. But you know what bothers me about Apple? He has nothing to do with these brand new M1M2 laptops. This M1M2, I think it's all bullshit, man. I don't.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's by far the fastest computer I've ever used to. But mine gets slower. It's already got, had issues where it's just, it's, I don't notice the difference. Maybe I'm not doing anything intensive enough. You're using Word Doc. Yeah, I am using Word Doc. What do you mean it's getting slower? There's moments where it's just lagging.
Starting point is 00:01:29 where I've got multiple programs open and I've got to like shut down Spotify because I can't handle the load. Really? Really? Dang. And I have an M1. I have the M2.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Maybe I've got a bad one. You always seem to have funky shit going on. I think it's because I have, I run a, I don't know what's going on. But either way. What programs are you running? Spotify, Discord, Chrome. That's nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I know. That's what I'm saying. There's a problem. I'll be running Discord and Foundry and Spotify. What's Foundry? Why don't you ever just let me talk on my hands? No, I like it. I'm working with you.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I cannot wait to go to, uh, I was on, I was looking up stuff on Reddit, and we've talked about this before, but the freaking algorithm on Reddit, if you look anything up now, it's just like blasting you with, so now I get a lot of like travel stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I was looking at, and there was someone who was talking about Greece, and they were, like, I've been here for like five days. Is everyone just like so mad and everyone was chiming in like, that's just how they talk. Oh, Grecians. Greeks. Greeks.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Right. What is a Grecian? Same thing. I've never heard it. You've never heard Grecian before? G-R-E-C-I-A-N. Oh, I don't think Grecian would be a thing. That might be an adjective or something.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Oh, yeah, like Grecian tile or something. Why not just Greek tile? I don't know. see this is why english is fucked man well we can't blame the uh english language for i blame english for a lot of things like what i don't know you've seen those shareable memes on facebook about how confusing the english languages where it's like i can't think of a single example but one word is just one letter off from a different word that means a completely different thing or one word spelled exactly the same means different things in different contexts anyway english is a famously difficult
Starting point is 00:03:27 language that is true you know you know it's the language with the most words in it no i didn't know that well now you do did you know that in german you can theoretically have a word that never ends because you can just keep piling on top of it oh sure the thing on the table that the thing is behind and the fun of the does the deed the dumb yeah it's like buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo yeah that's right i fucking hate that yeah i think that's an example of how it's confusing because you can have a whole sentence with just that with six buffaloes yeah Look, what I was trying to say is that when you get a voicemail on your iPhone and you try to play it and then you hit play and then hold it up to your ear, it never fucking works for me. I hit play and then I hold it up to my ear and I don't hear anything and I'm like, oh, because it stopped for some reason.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And then it started when you pull it away. Yes. Yes. And then I try to put it on speakerphone and it stops. And it's just, it's like, do any of these people actually use the products that they're. it's mind-boggling it could be one of those things where it's like social media where they're like oh yeah I work at instagram but I don't let I don't use it I don't let anyone in my family use this goddamn thing I saw a thing about this woman this woman posted I think it was on TikTok about the Microsoft Outlook
Starting point is 00:04:44 app and how dog shit it is she was just trying to log out of her work email and it doesn't have that option it does not have a log out option it has a delete account option and And it took her enough try where she finally goes, I guess I'll just try delete account. And then it prompted her and said, this will remove your account. It basically doesn't give you sign out. It allows you to just temporarily remove your account from the app.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And she goes, that's what signing out is supposed to be. It's a big email. I, fuck, I cannot believe. Oh, man. I just, what a way to start the episode. You're all riled up. I'm all riled up. I'm pissed off.
Starting point is 00:05:26 You read too many. comments on our own videos oh yeah we're going to be doing if you if you want to sign up for our patreon we're going to be our bonus episode is going to just be reading comments today no not just but we're going to be reading some comments but we're going to be nice about it of course but there's there's a lot of people that don't understand a lot of things and we got to set records straight and deal with it well just tell them here no no no because we're we're we have bigger fish to fry right but at the very least we can tell the people give us a break yeah give us a break jesus god yeah and everybody's just i don't know just leave us alone
Starting point is 00:06:07 it's like that michael jackson song leave me alone but except we didn't there are no allegations about kid stuff this is all about the quality of our show yeah yeah just to be clear right oh because that's how he he he made that song in response to all the tabloid stuff Biddy-born allegations. Biddy-born? Yeah, I'm not saying the actual thing just in case we get flagged or something. Oh, got it, got it, got it, right? Like another,
Starting point is 00:06:34 because you just never know what's going to upset the little numbers in the screen. It's going to go, oh, no, now we're just going to delete your channel or something. All that is to say, we have no issues with you. We love YouTube. Yeah, we love YouTube. We're good with them. Should we, should we, I don't know how we should do the intro now. Should we just say hit it?
Starting point is 00:06:55 No, no. We should say, hey, guys, this is going to be a really great episode. We're talking about two major topics. One, Project 2025, the conservative movement to buttress in their new plan for whichever conservative administration may might win and will win in 2024 and enter office in 2025. and then we're also going to be talking about car bloat. Some Toyota, some pickup trucks are eating too much dairy. They're getting all bloated and farty. I identify with that. Car bloat? Maybe they should lay off the dairy. It was funny.
Starting point is 00:07:43 The other day you was bloated. I was bloated? No, you found another thing you couldn't eat and you just went, great, add it to the list. Oh, oh yeah, it was a. Bless you. you know it was uh it was uh bitch and sauce yes bitch and sauce okay you know play the song we're going to go into the episode like to try to sell something to you like marks waves, rules, balance, and sex.
Starting point is 00:08:31 The world is a college of corporations. The world is a business. I have seen the face of God. Welcome to, welcome to this episode. I was going to call it, I was going to give the number, but I don't know what number this will end up. Yeah, we'll figure it out. Yeah, we'll figure it out. So, oh, boy, the, the, the conservatives are getting together and they're, they're, they're, they don't want to lose again.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And they're trying to ensure that they're basically freaked out. There's a whole big swath of conservatives who truly believe that the country is on a, is on the, is on a collision course with, with, with a disaster. So it's important to note, this is not about winning. This is about what happens after they win. Okay. So this is not their plan to win the White House. This is their plan to undo all of the horrible things. The liberals, the lefties, the commies, the socialists have done to the good old American.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Right. And what's frustrating, as I was reading over all of the, by the way, it's a lot. We're talking about Project 2025. It's called Project 2025. And let's just do a real quick. So what is Project 2025 then? I'll just read it directly from their website about Project 2025. building now for a conservative victory through policy, personnel, and training.
Starting point is 00:09:59 The actions of liberal politicians in Washington have created a desperate need and unique opportunity for conservatives to start undoing the damage the left has wrought and build, rot, and build a better country for all Americans in 2025. It's not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place ready to carry this agenda out on day one of the next conservative administration. This is the goal of the 2025 presidential transition project. It will build on four pillars that will collectively pave the way for an effective conservative administration. The four pillars are a policy agenda,
Starting point is 00:10:40 personnel, training, and a 180 day playbook. Right. So those are their four pillars. Right. It's the effort of a broad coalition of conservative working. organizations that have come together to ensure a successful administration begins in January 25. With the right conservative policy recommendations and properly vetted and trained personnel to implement them, we will take back our government. It's organized by the Heritage Foundation and builds off of Heritage's longstanding, quote, mandate for leadership, which has been highly influential for presidential administration since the Reagan era. This is a big thing. So it's- Well, and I want to be clear. So they are, this is like a direct response to
Starting point is 00:11:28 2016, right? I think they kind of, uh, I think no one ever expected Trump to win. And I think they were caught with their pants around their ankles a little bit. And they were like, this is not going to happen again. All right. We're not going to let Trump or DeSantis or whoever's going to get in. Pull down our pants and expose our- No, get in without a plan. Right. They said in 2016, the conservative movement was not prepared to flood the zone, conservative personnel. This is Dr. Kevin Roberts, President of Heritage. He said on January 20th, 25, things will be very different. This database will prepare an army of vetted, trained staff to begin dismantling the administrative state from day one. You know, there are all kinds of
Starting point is 00:12:09 all kinds of stories about Trump, you know, kind of, that seemed to signal that he had no idea that he was going to win. There's that famous story about how like Chris, Christy started, you know, once Trump won the nomination for the Republican Party, he started to, he started, Chris Christie started to take funds to plan the transition team. And Trump started screaming going, he's taking my fucking money and didn't realize that these were just natural things that would, normal things that had to happen to, to plan for the election and everything. And, you know, I'm sure there are, there are numerous examples of Trump just not knowing how every day. politics worked and how to staff and he was kind of just flying by the seat of his pants. Right. So Project 2025 is, to quote Paul Dan's, the director of Project 2025, he says that never before
Starting point is 00:13:06 has the whole conservative movement banded together to systematically prepare to take power day one and deconstruct the administrative state. So before we really get into it, we got it's not just heritage. Heritage is leading this, but if you go on there, it's over 70 consecutive, 70 conservative organizations, and it's, you know, they're playing all the hits. They got your turning point USA. Oh, yeah. We love toilet paper USA. Toil paper USA.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You got, I don't know, one day I haven't even heard of, the Young Americans Foundation, all these Texas Public Policy Projects. Moms for Liberty. I love the mom stuff. So before we can really dive into this, it helps to understand who's behind it, which is the Heritage Foundation. And I did not know much about the Heritage Foundation, my esteemed colleague. I took some reading, but it's, they have, they have been influential not just for
Starting point is 00:13:58 conservative, a conservative administration, they've been influential in, in Clintons, in Obamas, and even have a voice in Biden's administration. They, they're basically a big conservative think tank, and they have been incredibly influential ever since they started in, let's see, in the late 70s, yeah. So they were, they were, this is from their Wikipedia page, they were influential in developing and advancing the so-called Reagan doctrine, a Reagan administration foreign policy initiative in which the U.S. provided military and other support to anti-communist resistance movements, fighting Soviet-aligned governments in Afghanistan, Angola, Cambodia, and Nicaragua, and other nations during the final years of the Cold War. Yeah, I mean, so they, so this was from the Atlantic, and I thought they were maybe being a bit hysterical. They talked about, you know, heritage policies and personnel were particularly influential during the Reagan and Trump administrations. A report in the Atlantic estimated that President Ronald Reagan implemented at least 60% of heritage's recommendations.
Starting point is 00:15:04 60% of their recommendations, Reagan implemented. But if you go into, if you go into Project 2025's full mandate for leadership, which is, 900 pages. If you guys are, I don't know, starved for something to do, you can read through it like I have. But they are bragging about this themselves in their own thing. Right. So they're proud to have played a pivotal role in, you know, in this period. It was in early 1979 amidst stagflation gas lines, the Red Army's invasion of Afghanistan, the Nadir of Jimmy Carter's Days of Malays. Heritage Foundation launched the Mandate for Leadership Project, brought together hundreds of conservative scholars and academics, blah, blah, blah. We created a 20-volume
Starting point is 00:15:49 3,000-page governing handbook containing more than 2,000 conservative policies to reform the federal government and rescue the American people from Washington dysfunction. It was published in January 18, 1981. The same month, Ronald Reagan was sworn into his presidency. By the end of that year, more than 60% of its recommendations had become policy. And Reagan was on his way to ending stagflation, reviving American confidence and prosperity, and winning the Cold War. They go on to say that the legacy of the mandate for leaders. So basically, the mandate for leadership is this, like Emil said, is this 900-page volume that is chock full of ideas, policies, recommendations that a bunch of conservatives put together in hopes that the incoming president
Starting point is 00:16:38 will implement as many as possible because they're basically saying, hey, we've got all the best brains in the conservative movement. These are all of their best ideas for everything, from foreign policy to the Fed, to the EPA, which is a big one, just everything. And they, they're... Which, I mean, this is not unique to conservatives, right? Like, think takes often act as this kind of weird holdover period in between administrations and kind of having a way to have personnel ready, policy ready and that kind of thing. But the Heritage Foundation is extremely influential and effective, obviously, in some of these things. Yeah. So the authors of this express consensus recommendations already forged, especially along four broad fronts that will decide America's
Starting point is 00:17:25 future. Number one, restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children. Number two, dismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people. Number three, defend our nation's sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats. Number four, secure our God-given individual rights to live freely, what our Constitution calls the blessings of liberty. It was founded, the Heritage Foundation was started in 1973 by these three guys, Paul Wehwrich, Edwin Fulner, and Joseph Coors. Yes, that Coors, the beer guy. and there's a just to give you an idea of who these people are and what they're like we got this quick little video uh on youtube um this is paul way rich one of the founders let's let's just hear
Starting point is 00:18:15 what he has to say yeah how many of our christians have what i call the goo goo syndrome good government they want everybody to vote i don't want everybody to vote elections are not won by a majority of people they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now as a matter of fact our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down there you go so uh yeah he's not into he's not into the idea of people voting i guess uh well it seems to hurt them when more people vote that's apparently the more people who vote, the less positions, the conservative movement is winning. But yeah, there's, I mean, and it's a whole another story, but the, you know, Joseph Coors and the Coors family and their
Starting point is 00:19:10 whole role in the conservative movement is like very interesting. People should look into it. But, you know, it just started with the Heritage Foundation and then it was just all kinds of things. free Congress Foundation, Mountain States Legal Foundation, all these different things. Yeah, the guy in charge of it now is named Kevin Roberts. He's just, he's an academic, he's the former CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is, surprise, another conservative think tank based out of Austin. And so the reason that we're covering this is just because these are the people who are potentially going to be shaping and influencing policies that may be implemented by an elected
Starting point is 00:19:58 conservative government. So it's probably a good idea to just at least be aware of it because I certainly had no idea. I did not know how deep this shit ran and just how much, I mean, as we're about to talk about, how they influenced even the Clinton administration. Right. So like they're very influential and, you know, they often line up with even mainstream. Democrats in pushing these, you know, economic agendas, right? So Bill Clinton strongly supported NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement. This had been a heritage supported priority since the 80s, all right? The idea for a unified trade zone linking the economies of the United States, Canada, and Mexico had initially been raised by Ronald Reagan during his
Starting point is 00:20:42 1980 presidential campaign and was developed and negotiating during the Reagan and Bush administrations. In 93, during his first year in office, despite opposition from most of his fellow Democrats in Congress and many left-leaning labor unions, Clinton successfully lobbied Congress to ratify the treaty. It takes a Democrat. And then it was also the big welfare reforms that Clinton is famous for, his major welfare reforms, that was also a NAFTA thing with the cooperator, not NAFTA, I'm sorry, Heritage Foundation, with the cooperation of Republican-controlled Congress in 1996. The welfare reform law implemented many longstanding and major heritage policy recommendations required most, requiring most recipients
Starting point is 00:21:26 to find employment, and by 2016, had reduced the number of Americans on cash assistance from $13 million to $3 million. Is that a good thing? Reducing that many Americans from $13 million? No, they're kicking them off. They're not raising people's... They're not finding people, you know, better incomes and making it so they're not qualified because...
Starting point is 00:21:45 They're just making it harder for people to be on it. Yeah, they're making it harder for people to access government assistance. Right. Gotcha. Okay. So now you have like a whole new list of things you need to hit just to be able to qualify. Right. So just jumping straight up to the Trump administration, these heritage motherfuckers, man, they, they had perhaps the most, the most influence on any administration in recent history because a lot of, a lot of other conservative think tanks had members who identified as never Trumpers. So there was kind of nowhere else to pull from besides the Heritage Foundation, who basically told him early on that they were going to support him no matter what. And they did. And he won. So at least 66 Foundation employees and alumni were given positions in the administration. Yeah. And. Well, I mean, also, so also Heritage is behind two of his major policy success, what they would call successes, the tax cuts and the Jobs Act of 2017. and the U.S.-Mexico-Canada agreement updating NAFTA. But in their mind, like, this isn't even close to far enough, right? They want to be prepared.
Starting point is 00:23:00 You know, 66 heritage employees is nothing, all right? So they're talking about their own director has called this. They're basically building a conservative LinkedIn, right? They're going to have a database of every conservative person who's interested in working for this new administration. And not only that, they're going to train them up, right? So you can go on here and you can submit your app. I tried to submit my application for. Did you?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. That'd be kind of fun. Well, because I just wanted to know what they were looking for, right? So it's, of course, the- It's everything. They're saying any in all backgrounds. That's not true. because when you go into their...
Starting point is 00:23:44 So you obviously have to fill in your general stuff, your name, your address, whatever, but then you quickly get to political and philosophical approach. And they've got only nine different things. They've got traditional conservative, fiscal conservative, social conservative, paleo-conservative,
Starting point is 00:24:02 then you're moderate, liberal. Is it paleo-conservative someone who's like into CrossFit? I don't know. And then it's just libertarian, neoconservative, progressive. So pretty much outside of, I think they're only left-leaning things are liberal and progressive. And I can't imagine, and you can check multiple things. And check them all. But I can't imagine if you check liberal or progressive, you're going to be considered a strong candidate for these.
Starting point is 00:24:30 You know, and then they want you to explain your philosophy. You know, name one person, Pastor Pleasant, who has influenced the development for your political philosophy. My computer overheated when I typed in Carl Marx. But then they have a whole thing of, do you agree with the following statements? And I thought they were all going to just be like, if you just click agree, but they try to trick you with some of these. You know, they really want to know just everything. The U.S. has the right to select immigrants based on the country of origin. Agree?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Disagree? Neither agree or disagree. Government should subsidize the use of production of energy, particularly for new and innovative energy technologies. Okay, so that's Pillar 2. It's this personnel database that they started in 2014, that it's, like you said, it's this LinkedIn of thousands of conservatives that are basically hoping to be picked and selected by whatever incoming conservative president. So that's Pillar 2.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Pillar 1, like we said, was the mandate for leadership. And we're going to go through some of that in a bit. Yeah. And then Pillar 3 is training. So once you get, once you get brought in, you get trained. They've got this, they've got this presidential administration academy. It's a one-of-a-kind educational and skill building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on day one of the next conservative administration. And it's- They're really doing a- I mean, I have to hand it to him. The organization that it takes, it's really straightforward it's really well yeah it's really well organized it's it's they got the book for the president they've got the people that the president can choose from to implement the things in the book and they've got a training program and education thing to help those people who are interested in helping that president and it's uh like god damn what are what are what are what are the democrats doing man what's that your mail yeah holy shit you'll learn from a
Starting point is 00:26:40 distinguished, and they've got solid people, it would seem. You'll learn from a distinguished roster of former political appointees from four previous presidential administrations, as well as from policy experts, practitioners, and subject matter experts representing over 65 partner organizations. It is a veritable who's who of the conservative movement. Yeah, I already, I already signed up for prepared to serve and conservative governance 101, but I got waitlisted for conservative governance advancing policy. Well, because you've got to have, you've Well, dude, how can you expect to get into advancement policy if you haven't even been one of the end? I asked if I could test out.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Okay. You are not, you are not, clearly, you are not Project 2025 material. I do like that they're doing American Idol for, you know, the next, the next great presidential aid. Yeah. Oh, boy. So pillar four finally is the 180 day transition playbook, which includes a comprehensive, concrete transition plan for each federal agency. Again, I tried to get one of these, but you got an email, then they, again, I think they're on to me. An appendix guide is a roadmap to equip a future GOP president on policy so they can have a framework and not just write policy from scratch, which is an issue that Trump kind of ran into.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's like, you need to know what you're doing so that you're not just going, well, I guess I've got to create, they're like, hey, baby, we got it all taken care of beforehand. I will say you are, you know, you are ragging on the Democrats and asking what they're doing. And, I mean, it's a good point. There's the left is so fractured that I can't imagine them ever working together on something like this. There's, there's, I mean, even if you just look at it, it seems to be unclear as to what a Democrat is, right? If you were to look at the three people running, there might be more, but the three main candidates between Joe Biden and Marianne Williamson and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Those are, I didn't even know that those were the other two. Marianne Williamson is still out there being considered.
Starting point is 00:28:41 You didn't know RFK Jr. was running? I mean, I knew that, but I didn't think that he was being taken seriously and being thrown out as one of the top three. I would have thought that the top three are Biden and TBD. Well, no, no one really outside of people like these two would have the guts to take on. Or Gavin Newsom, I would think Gavin Newsom would be before RFK or Mary. Ian Williamson. He hasn't announced the run. And again, I don't think anyone, I don't think mainstream Democrats are going to be, are going to be challenging an incumbent Joe Biden. Yeah. So that's why
Starting point is 00:29:18 you have outsiders doing that. But, you know, what it's, no one seems to really know what a Democratic Party stands for, right? They seem to, you know, in some of these cases, we were talking about, they align with some of these heritage foundation things. And then, you know, when you start getting into the more left space of the Democratic Party and everything, you, have you heard anything about justice Democrats? No, what are Justice Democrats? They basically came to prominence. Everyone, everyone was riding high off the whole Bernie 2016 thing. Oh, how can I forget? Like there was, there would actually be a left movement in this country for, for the first time in a very long time. It was one of the things that sprung up with, it was founded by prominent leftist commentators like Chank, Chank Yugar from the Young Turks and Kyle Kalinsky and some other people.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And it was basically, they were behind the AOC run. They basically were having people nominate, nominate people from their community to run. run primary campaigns against, like, establishment Democrats who were not reactive to their constituents' needs and all that. But there's been stories about just how in just a few, because they launched ASC in 2018, we're now going into 2024, and they've just, they're laying off staff. They're just kind of lost out there. I mean, the left is completely adrift. I don't think it quite knows what it is ever since the implosion of. Bernie's 2020 campaign and you could never imagine. I mean, and things where this 180 day
Starting point is 00:31:06 playbook where things you can start getting done on day one, there are people, there are commentators who are doing things like that. We talk about the day one agenda from American prospect and stuff, but it's so fringe and mainstream Democrats like Joe Biden, they wouldn't even register most of these things. Right. Whereas if you look at this mandate for leadership, I mean, just the foreword by this Kevin guy, the head of it, of the Heritage Foundation. Boy, oh, boy, I highly recommend you guys give it to read because it's freaky. I don't know if I do recommend you. It broke my brain, but...
Starting point is 00:31:46 Well, so let's look at some of these promises. He's saying that the conservative promise is four things. Promise number one, restore the family is the centerpiece of American life and protect our children. the next conservative president must get to work pursuing the true priority of politics, the well-being of the American family. So he says that the American family is in crisis. He notes that 40% of all children are born to unmarried mothers and that fatherlessness is one of the principal sources of American poverty, crime, mental illness, teen suicide,
Starting point is 00:32:24 substance abuse, rejection of the church and high school dropouts. Like, look, okay, sure. Yeah. Having a family is, I don't fucking know, man. These people, sure, there's plenty. Look at Barack Obama grew up in a fatherless household. And you went on to become the president of the United States. Is he an outlier?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Maybe. Well, also, yeah, I mean, that's an anecdote story. I also think it's important to, like, call out that I think this is also just like dog, dog whistle bullshit with like, there is a stat from the CDC with the 70% of black children, you know, up fatherless or whatever, but, or in unmarried households, but if you look deeper into it, it doesn't mean that they are growing up fatherless when you, it's, they have similar levels of being in their children's lives. And then if you go deeper, you're talking about mass incarceration and shit like that. Sure. And they have, it doesn't seem like the heritage
Starting point is 00:33:21 Foundation is in any way interested in addressing the mass incarceration problem. But yeah, I mean, their whole, like, it's crazy, their whole ideology is wrapped up in their belief that, you know, the, a government in itself is some kind of like rejection towards family. They say, like, the entire point of centralizing political power is to subvert the family, okay? Totally. Its purpose is to replace people's natural loves and loyalties with unnatural ones. You see this in the popular left-wing aphorism.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Government is simply the name we give to the things we choose to do together. Oh, man. I hear that all the time. I see it on T-shirts and shit. And what a horrible thing. But in real life, most of the things people do together have nothing to do with government. These are the mediating institutions that serve as the building blocks of any healthy society. marriage, family, work, church, school, volunteering.
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's funny. He goes on to talk about how, and again, this is something that I can kind of get behind where people just want to be happy. People just want to feel fulfilled. And some of that comes from just going to work every day and coming home. God damn it, coming home to your kid. It's kind of, but then it's like, it's that conservative white kind of dog whistly thing of the of the dad coming home with the suitcase to the white picket fence with the the Chevy
Starting point is 00:34:53 Bel Air in the driveway I mean in the the amount of times they've said church in this entire thing it's like we like in Christian like they'll soon they will soon turn back to Christian schools and clubs it's like but well because they believe that we're a godless right that's our whole focus because yeah he goes on to say uh the next American president conservative president must make the institutions of American civil society hard targets for woke culture warriors. This starts with deleting the terms sexual orientation and gender identity, diversity, equity, and inclusion, gender, gender equality, gender awareness, gender sensitive, abortion, reproductive health, reproductive rights,
Starting point is 00:35:36 and any other term used to deprive Americans of their First Amendment rights out of every federal rule, agency regulation, contract, grant regulation, and peace of legislation that exists. This part is the best. Pornography manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploitors of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be improved.
Starting point is 00:36:17 prison. Educators and public librarians who purvey it, there's porn in libraries? That's where I get my porn. Yeah, I'm going down to you. Who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders and telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should
Starting point is 00:36:33 be shuttered. That's right. Only fans creators. We are going to lock you up in 2025 day one. Within 180 days, we're going to put all of you in jail. Yeah. Pornhub. I mean, there's look, there's something to be said for for how damaging porn is sure when you have unfettered access to these
Starting point is 00:36:53 things that are our dumb little brains uh from an evolutionary standpoint should not be viewing it's it's a pretty i mean sure it's good i don't fucking know it's not good but but some of these are like lofty goals right when they talk about the family and stuff i'm like how do you plan on doing that right and it's it all seems like very vague because like you can't just what are you going to do make divorce illegal, you're just going to force people to live with their families and stuff like that. Because it's a covenant that you make with God. So they have, you know, they say we're going to have dozens of policies to make sure we keep people together. You know, some are obvious longstanding goals like eliminating marriage penalties and federal welfare programs and the tax code and installing work
Starting point is 00:37:34 requirements for food stamps. But we must go further. It's time for policymakers to elevate family authority formation and cohesion as their top priority. Well, even use government power, including through the tax code to restore the American family. It's like, well, hold on. a second. That's our problem. We just don't have enough tax incentives to fucking... It sounds like, because they go on to say, consider our approach to big tech. The worst of these companies prey on children like drug dealers to get them addicted to their mobile apps. I agree with that. That's certainly true. Many Silicon Valley executives famously don't let their own kids have smartphones. They nevertheless make billions of dollars addicting other people's
Starting point is 00:38:11 children to theirs. TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. Not YouTube, though. Not Spotify. and other social media platforms are specifically designed to create the digital dependencies that fuel mental illness and anxiety to fray children's bonds with their parents and siblings. But this is, I mean, they're on to something, but it's not just children. I mean, adults are just as well, not only susceptible to being addicted to these things, but being addicted to these things. Federal policy cannot allow this industrial scale child abuse to continue. So here's what's interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:45 It's like they want this totally, they want to break apart big government. They want to totally limit the federal government's ability to stop big business from doing what business does best, which is just total unfettered. Let the free market. The free market capitalism, except when it comes to things. But except when it comes to things, like they're famously really a big, big part of their thing is let's unleash America's. energy power. Let's drill. Let's get America's energy back on track. Fuck, they want to undo
Starting point is 00:39:22 just basically everything and just say, fuck it. We're going full bore. We're burning every last bit of dead dinosaur we can get our grubby little mitts on so that we can create more jobs and just become energy independent. No regulations there. But when it comes to regulations involving things that they disagree with fundamentally, religiously, they are all for government intervention. Jail, any porn creator. Jail. Yeah, like, that's what's, it's mind boggling to me that they, that they don't see the, I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:53 they don't, they fucking see it. Of course. It's obvious. They're just, they're very clear about what they want to accomplish. Yeah, they want to overturn Roversus Wade. Well, they're celebrating it rather. There are plenty of people who agree with these kind of things and are just good, they don't, no one's going, well, well, hang on.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I thought you said limited government. Shouldn't we be a little bit ideologically. consistent here? Yeah, sure. And I mean... They're just going, no, no, no. We need to continue to make sure we implement this great Christian nations values. When you read something like this, you realize just how complex it is to run a country
Starting point is 00:40:36 and how much influence and just how deep policy goes and how many, you know, departments and and people and legislation that it takes to just, why would anyone ever want to fucking run a country? I have no idea. You've got to be. Well, because for these people, you know, this is, uh, this is good business, right? This is, these are, these, these institutions are funded by, uh, big business who can, who can make sure these things get accomplished, right?
Starting point is 00:41:07 Unsurprisingly, when you look at the people who've contributed to this, this mandate for leadership and the ideas that they're. pitching they're in, namely the ones that really, really promote big oil and things that are just destructive to the environment. They're all funded by big oil. Yeah, it's not a, it's not a, it's not rocket science here. It's really fucking, it's, it's fascinating. And the last thing they, you know, and that's the, reading through this, the biggest thing for me is it's like, you guys won, right? They talk about Roe v. Wade and how we need to celebrate it and go further. And it's just the beginning. And it's like, you guys won, right? You guys. You guys.
Starting point is 00:41:44 you guys have hand-picked Supreme Court members. It's all of these things have been a decades-long project for you that have come to fruition, but it's like, no, no, no, now we need to completely dismantle everything. And that's when they go into the promise number two, which is where they start talking about getting, you know, just completely getting rid of the administrative state and returning self-governance to the American people. It's just exhausting. And they talk about, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:12 But what if I want to have my. city just be porn city porn city. We will turn that into an open-air prison and that's where you can do it.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But yeah, so it's just unaccountable federal spending is the secret lifeblood of the great awokening. It's the only way the only way we can
Starting point is 00:42:33 it's basically, you know, they just want to go into everything, Department of Education, Department of Homeland Security, environmental protection
Starting point is 00:42:40 agency, Department of Justice, you know, All of these things and making sure they have, they either strip it of funding for anything they don't like or putting in the correct people who are going to make sure we're enforcing things like, I don't know, the Department of Justice to make sure they can't force school districts to undermine girls' sports and parents' rights to satisfy transgender extremists. Talk about the military and says the president should restore public confidence and
Starting point is 00:43:11 accountability to our most important government function of all national defense. The American people desire a military full of highly skilled servicemen and women who can protect the homeland in our interests overseas. The next conservative president must end the left's social experimentation with the military, restore warfighting as its sole mission, and set defeating the threat of the Chinese Communist Party as its highest priority. Which brings us to the next thing. This, they are fucking, if you read this, you would think that China is on the, is like,
Starting point is 00:43:41 Minutes away from practically invading America. These guys, it's also, the whole thing is laid like just full of praise for Rom Dregan, right? These guys are fucking rock hard for the 1980s and they want that back, all right? And what do they need? Their very own Cold War. Okay, we need to drum up Cold War sentiment. We need an enemy. We need to like, we need movies where like every bad guy is Chinese or Russian.
Starting point is 00:44:10 well back in the 80s it was all Russian now yeah you know we need we need a small Italian man from Philadelphia fighting the most jack Chinese guy you've ever seen in your life heck Chinese guy like Rocky 4 but it's a Chinese guy now oh yeah yeah okay I got you did you get it yeah no I got it sorry it took me a minute instead of the yeah go on but yeah so I mean that That's like they want that back. And, you know, that gives you kind of unfettered access to all of these things, right? It's all in the name of, it's all in the name of defeating this common enemy. But it's not.
Starting point is 00:44:51 What we got was hollowed out institutions that don't work for anybody anymore in the name of like expediency and efficiency. Well, because, yeah, when Reagan famously said, let the bull loose, is that what he said? Let this bull run, run loose. when he declared the bull market of the 80s was on like just everybody go for it a big part of what would end up happening is corporations juicing their margins by slowly and meticulously shutting down factories and outsourcing everything manufacturing of goods to China and they underscore this for 30 years america's political economic and cultural leaders embraced and enriched communist China and its genocidal communist party while hollowing out America's industrial
Starting point is 00:45:42 base. What may have started out with good intentions has now been made clear. Trade with China has been in catastrophe. It's made a hand. I like this part. It's true. It's made a handful of American corporations enormously profitable while twisting their business incentives away from the American people's needs. For generation, politicians of both parties promised that engagement with Beijing would grow our economy while injecting American values into China. The opposite has happened. I love this. American factories have closed. Jobs have been outsourced. Our manufacturing economy has been financialized. And all along, the corporations profiting failed to export our values of human rights and freedom. Rather, they imported China's anti-American values into their sea suites. I don't know about that part. That's the thing. It's like just when they're like, yeah, okay, they go, instead it brought communism here. It's like, no, no, it's just greed. that's all. Like, you should have just stopped at the green part. Well, I mean, did you see the thing about the, so today nearly every top-tier U.S. university president or Wall Street hedge fund manager
Starting point is 00:46:47 has more in common with a socialist European head of state than with the parents at a high school football game in Waco, Texas. That's exactly right. Many elites, entire identity, it seems, is wrapped up in their sense of superiority over those people. I agree with that, a part of that, that many of these elites sense... But there is a sense of superiority. But it's the same thing of always where we're like, God, I wish Democrats behave the way
Starting point is 00:47:14 the right describes them behaving. You know what I mean? It's like, no, they do not. They have much closer, like, held beliefs to a Heritage Foundation member. Maybe not on, you know, the woke stuff. But when it comes to big business
Starting point is 00:47:30 and all of that kind of stuff, like, sure, this is, you know. business as usual. Because they go on to point out how the, what is it called, when you do as I say, not as I do, when it's a hypocritical. They point out Gavin Newsom's hypocrisy in telling people to stay home for COVID, but then going out to like the most expensive restaurant in California with a bunch of people. Let them hang out of French laundry.
Starting point is 00:47:57 They, I mean, they've got a really big issue with big tech. So, I mean, I guess, geez, we could. go on about this for hours. There's so much to cover. It's the typical stuff that they ought to close the borders, rain in big tech, go on the offense against China, basically shut off all trade with China, protect the American family institution and then energy. America's vast reserves of oil and natural gas are not an environmental problem. They are the lifeblood of economic growth. Jesus Christ. I mean, this is the part that's, like, most terrifying to me is the, is the energy stuff. They're just saying that the dominance of the global energy market would
Starting point is 00:48:43 be a good thing for the world and more importantly for us. It's not just about jobs, even though unleashing domestic energy production would create millions of them, higher wages. It would facilitate reinvigoration of America's entire industrial and manufacturing sector as we disentangle our economy from China. It would rebalance power away from dangerous regimes in Russia in the Middle East. But then, like, sure, that would happen. If we did that, and if the environment were in a factor, that's, that is what would happen. We would be, we would become more self-sufficient and thus more powerful and less reliant on these other things. But that's to ignore what other countries around the world are doing, which is embracing and leaning into and making more
Starting point is 00:49:29 efficient these alternative energy sources so that would put us behind because then they're going to get a head start on developing technologies and manufacturing those technologies right and the things they are describing it's like there there's only one solution to them which is just just drill more produce more burn more yeah and so what but they have no and then any other option like alternative resources like new technologies smaller cars but public transit. It's all just like, okay, you're a European socialist. You'd probably work for the Chinese government. You call me. It's like, whoa, buddy. Yeah. It's, if anything, the smarter thing is to plan it. Like, look, like, I'm all for the unleashing of American ingenuity in competition
Starting point is 00:50:18 and all that shit. So, so what is the problem with letting people do that with alternative energy sources. It's because they've got their, they've got big oils, dicks so far down their throat and up their ass that they don't know whether to sit down or stand up. I mean, that's going to be a whole other problem. I mean, that the whole like anti-science movement that we've kind of found ourselves in with all kinds of things is, is reaching it. Well, yeah, but it's, it's really reached into climate stuff. And like, there are just, there are green energy projects that are going to be held up from people just I there's one in I think it's ocean city New Jersey or it's down south here come on don't do that to me okay they're they want to build an offshore wind
Starting point is 00:51:08 farm like pretty far offshore yeah it's just there's a whole group of people talking about how it's it's going to have all these negative consequences for marine life all these things even though I mean, I'm not a scientist, but the scientists seem to be settled on the fact that it's not going to cause these things. And there is a huge, like, save the shore movement about, like, and so even when we try to get these things done, you're just going to, we're going to fight tooth and nail on every little project. You know, what's an interesting thing that I've been noticing among conservatives online, the vocal ones, is just, hey, Hey, if they lied about COVID, what else are they lying about? Like, throughout history, they're now just going back and going, hey, was Abraham Lincoln a good guy? Was the Civil War really about, like, slavery?
Starting point is 00:52:06 Maybe slavery was actually good. And just because they're now just saying, hey, the people in history, the winners write history, that doesn't mean that we should believe it. it's it's i guess but like no that's what they're doing no no i know but that's the kind of thing where i'm like that's uh that's the problem of like whoever decided that it would be good to lie about these things and and bury all these things i mean you're seeing it now right for for probably close to a year all of these different things were that are now believed in the mainstream like a lab leak theory was like oh you'd lose your job yeah Yeah, it's like, so, I mean, so there is something to be said.
Starting point is 00:52:52 These people did this to themselves. Right. They cried wolf, which has me worried about the next, the next legitimate huge pandemic, which I believe is right around the corner, whether it's H5N1 or MERS COVID. Dude, you are becoming a full-blown, uh, truther over. I'm not, I love it. I like this. A truther?
Starting point is 00:53:12 I like this pivot into, into H1N1. I'm just, I'm just tired. of the big plink the cultural plinko machine that is just you stick in your belief at the top or whatever topic and eventually it makes its way down to you're either super left on it or super right on it it's either this or this thing and it's just i believe that it is uh it is a hallmark of the success of of media companies because they it's it's sewing discord and disagreement and constantly giving bad news out there and pessimism is the most profitable thing and and we are not only the the lab rats that they've experimented on but it's worked and we've gotten ourselves
Starting point is 00:54:01 worked up into such a tizzy that every little thing is like okay even a fucking movie about a Barbie doll now becomes which cider you want right is it good or bad is the new thing good or is it bad. And your belief in whether it's good or bad files you as just using the Barbie example a fucking, I don't know, right wing woman hater or like on the right side of history. It's exhausting. You can be a left wing woman hater too. Just that's why I. That's true. That's just like you. But it is, it's funny you say that because there is a, there's a video that Heritage Foundation put out. You know, they're obviously trying to get out the good word about their project 2025 and how they're going to save average Americans from the clutch of the elites. And it's
Starting point is 00:54:50 just a it's a bunch of cuts from like mainstream news outlets, you know, MSNBC, CNN, all of them. And they're, you know, you've got Rachel Maddow, all those people going like, this is a, this is bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, talking about product 2025. Yeah. And it's, the whole point is like, see how afraid they are? Or just like they're against. And you can see there's comments being like, that's all I needed to know. If they don't like it, like, I'm for it. And it's like, yeah, that's the other thing. Fuck, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:22 It's just how that's how enmeshed this shit has all become where now you even have, if it's a good idea, well, is it a leftist behind it? Then I'm not for it. Right. Hey, I think we should have like, clean air and water. Oh, so did Joe Biden come up with that? So I want to give me dirty water. It's got minerals in it, actually.
Starting point is 00:55:42 like they speaking of how does that fucking how does that water Somalia guy make money that's you know I feel like you have to that's on both sides I believe it was I believe it was Kamala Harris who said she wouldn't
Starting point is 00:55:59 she didn't want to pronounce Kamala Come on dude Okay go on go on But she didn't want to She didn't want to take the vaccine Because it was made under the Trump administration's Oh right operation warp speed you know i don't know this is obviously not a right wing problem we're just
Starting point is 00:56:18 going through this or even vaccines for that for that matter like the more i think about it it is unsettling that hey this company can this corporation that stands to make literally tens of billions of dollars will not be held accountable in any way shape or form if if shit goes wrong and that's like yeah yeah that's unsettling but even bring that up and say, hey, man, that kind of makes me feel a certain way. It's like, are you, are you, are you anti-science? Do you not trust science? Right. I trust it. If you want to say you like feel a little squeamish about like big pharma, people are like, hmm, interesting. I didn't know you were a fascist. Yeah. Yeah, excuse me that I don't trust Pfizer. Right. Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Why should I? They have a history of, they are just as, they spend, guess what? They spend millions of dollars buying politicians just like oil companies do. Here's the thing. Big companies are not your friend, unless we're talking Diet Coke. No, they're not afraid either. No, they're my friend. And Dr. Brunner's, good friend.
Starting point is 00:57:32 That's a good company. There's not company. Patagonia, probably pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. Let's just sum it up. Let's just sum it out.
Starting point is 00:57:41 The big thing here. Left to our own devices, the American people rejected European monarchy and colonialism. Just as we rejected slavery, well, I don't know about that one. Second-class citizenship for women, kind of. Mergantilism, socialism, Wilsonian globalism, fascism, maybe communism, and today, wokeism. That's probably a good place, didn't it? Nah, well, this last sentence. Conservatives have just two years and one shot to get this right, With enemies at home and abroad, there is no margin for error. Time is running short.
Starting point is 00:58:14 If we fail, the fight for the very idea of America may be lost. I mean, it would take us probably six hours to go through this whole thing. Oh, yeah. It's so riddled with just kind of dead wrong things. It's like, you know, the United States remains the most innovative and upwardly mobile society, not even close. No, I would say that Japan is. It's not. It's not Japan? Who is it? If you're talking about the most upwardly mobile society, it's going to be the Nordic countries. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's very white of you. It's, I mean, they're just. Did you just Google best upwardly mobile country? No. I googled the most upwardly mobile. Yeah, you did. Most upwardly mobile. What does that even mean? Upwardly mobile. Upwardly mobile, like being able to move from your socioeconomic status to another one, right? So.
Starting point is 00:59:07 So America is famous for, you know, your lot in life will be completely determined by your zip code. But so if you are an upwardly mobile society, it doesn't matter that you were born to... Thank God I'm 90210. Are you? No. No, no. But I mean, if you look at... We don't even crack the top 10.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I don't think we crack the top 20. Like, it's all Nordic countries. Denmark's number one. Norway, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Iceland. Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg, all places with what? Whites. Jesus, no. Good, good safety nets.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Robust welfare states. Yeah. And good, yeah, safety nets, health insurance. But to them, it's that's a prison, to be locked into the ability to not go bankrupt from. Which is so funny, because then they love to, with their conservative memes about this is what the left is taking away from you. it's like a Nordic, Aryan-looking guy, like, look at what they're,
Starting point is 01:00:12 these are our ancestors. It's like, hey, buddy, they're still over there. Right. And they're doing it right. Yeah, we just got out of the doctor and we didn't pay anything. Yeah. Oh, fuck you, Kami. Like, okay, do you like them or do you not?
Starting point is 01:00:23 I don't, there's just a ton of head scratchers. I think, I don't think it's that big of a head scratcher. I think it's probably a lot of racism. Like a lot of, a lot of public goods often get gutted when, when you start
Starting point is 01:00:38 seeing like integration and enforcement of making it available to all Americans fucking conservatives man okay should we talk about the we're already over an hour should we just save the other thing for the bonus what do you think
Starting point is 01:00:56 or should we touch on it for 10 minutes I don't know what do you think Dylan yeah yeah why don't let's go out Well, honestly, it's fun because it kind of, it feels like it touches on this stuff a little bit. Oh, yeah. And we already said in the intro, we're going to do it. Let's talk about the car bloat.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Oh, yeah. Okay. So, car bloat. Let's pivot here. Let's grab the steering wheel, if you will. Nice, bad. And veer across the street and not see any pedestrians because, yeah, that's right, baby. It's car bloat.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Pedestrians are dead. We kill them all. So there's a great thread. What is car bloat? Car bloat is when, is the phenomenon that cars are just getting bigger and bigger and bigger, which they are. It's funny because we used to drive, we used to have a long commute together. To where? I don't ever remember.
Starting point is 01:01:51 The place, I don't, it seems like a distant dream, distant memory. It's funny because I would say, I brought it up to you. I said, man, when I was a kid, like in the early 2000s, the whole thing was that like, they're, going to take away our SUVs like big government doesn't want us to drive what we want to drive and the whole fear and prediction was that like we're just going to be driving smaller and smaller cars like gay little Europeans yeah and I said but every time we're on the road that's like the last thing I see you you when you walk next to one of these trucks it the The hoods come up to my chest.
Starting point is 01:02:36 On just a fucking F-150. It's the most... A silverado. Yeah. Yeah. What are you hauling around besides your dipshit little children? Nothing. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:47 So there's a... This guy, David Zipper, awesome name. Awesome guy. A really great guy, too. I've been reading a lot of stuff. I like him. He's got this... It's just a Twitter thread.
Starting point is 01:02:57 So let's just go through this footer thread. But he wrote a ton of articles about all of these... But he's got this. thread about how huge cars are terrible society in ways that are hidden. So some basic info first. I did not know this. 80% of U.S. car sales are now
Starting point is 01:03:13 trucks or SUVs. Dude, I was, I was floored by this. That's unbelievable. Did you know that? So this was the thing that got me. Ford doesn't even make cars anymore. They only make trucks and SUVs? They make trucks and SUVs and they make... Light trucks.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Well, I don't think it's considered like a sports guy, but the Mustang. but there's no four-door sedans there's no like what about like the eclipse dead i don't know what an eclipse is or that's not an that's a mitsubishi fuck that's not even the right country the ford tourists the it's dead dead what about the cobalt oh that's Chevy Chevy only makes two cars now two kinds of car yep the rest trucks SUVs well because every everything other than a big old honking truck is gay. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And you don't want to be seen as gay. Nope. Yeah. Better, not in 2025. Yeah. When the Heritage Foundation. Here's what's wild.
Starting point is 01:04:13 The 2023 Ford F-150 is 800 pounds heavier and seven inches taller than in 1991. And as you said, there, like, here's this picture of this woman. Look at how, look at this. What are you laughing at? It's insane. She is, she is, she is, she is, For the audio listener, it's just a picture of a woman standing in front of. She looks like she's probably 5 foot 8.
Starting point is 01:04:38 If it, so for the audio listener, if this truck were to hit her, she would be, her entire body would go and her head would just stay right there. Or she would just stick to the front of it and the driver would never even know. It would knock her body clean off her head. Yeah. So he points out that a big problem, problem number one is that this car bloat endangers pedestrians. It endangers everybody who's not in your big ass fucking car. Right. They have these taller vehicles, have bigger blind spots.
Starting point is 01:05:02 and are more likely to strike a person's torso or head. They also exert, obviously, more force when they crash into a person, bicycle, or smaller car. They also have longer braking distances. Who cares? Let them hit the pedestrians. It's your fault for walking. It's also, they also require more energy to move, which makes them consume more gas. And when they're electrified, their big-ass batteries are really inefficient so that the bigger models end up generating more pollution than some gas-powered cars. Right. So this is, this is the biggest thing to me. Like, this is the best solution we can come up with, which is electric cars.
Starting point is 01:05:41 But meanwhile, they're making the problem worse. I mean, we've already talked about all the like Tesla bullshit, how your car is not even going to, like, work in the severe heat. But so, you know, we're cold. Right. While electric SUVs do not produce tailpipe emissions, which is, you know, what makes everyone think like, oh, great, we solve the problem. They will damage the planet in many other ways because they are so heavy SUVs require gigantic. batteries in order to provide the 300-plus miles of range that carmakers insist are necessary, an assumption that's dubious, by the way.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Charging those batteries requires generating a lot of power, which itself creates considerable emissions, particularly oversized SUVs like the Hummer EV, which is fucking ridiculous. Why do we even have that? Can produce more greenhouse gases per mile than a gas-powered sedan. Recent research found that they could even hasten climate change by slowing the process of electrifying smaller, more efficient vehicles. you've also got just i didn't i didn't even realize this but they're the pressure on tires makes them a road faster yeah and then the particles from those tires can get absorbed into water
Starting point is 01:06:40 they also float through the air it's and but not only that so heavier cars damages roads los angeles fucking sucks to drive in it's just when we would drive to that undisclosed location for the previous job whose name i can't really remember and escapes me because it feels like some kind of distant dream, I would run over potholes galore all the time and get really fucking frustrated. Right. And it's kind of a twofold problem because, you know, extreme weather conditions are already exacerbating are horribly taking care of roads. So you've got a real nice double dick in here. Yeah, double dicking. Cars have become so heavy that U.S. auto haulers can't carry a full load without exceeding federal weight limits. And guess what carmakers are doing? Instead of
Starting point is 01:07:27 making cars smaller and lighter, they're just asking the feds to raise the limit. Because big, heavy cars can be sold for more money. Right, cars are more expensive than ever. People are paying like 50 grand for one of these gigantic cars just to, uh, look, if you're going to slam into a pedestrian, you want to make sure it's dead. You don't want it screaming. It? Well, wait.
Starting point is 01:07:51 You want to hear a wild stat? What? This is from the fast company article. regardless of how they are powered SUVs do no favors for the animal kingdom I cannot believe this wait wait wait is this a guess because I want to guess
Starting point is 01:08:05 no you don't have to guess I want to guess how many vertebrates vertebrates are fatally struck annually why don't you just say animals how many animals are killed in the United States annually by cars yeah I'm going to say
Starting point is 01:08:20 35 million multiply that by 10 some no fucking way 350 million vertebrates some 350 million vertebrates are fatally struck by vehicles annually in the U.S. And road kill deaths
Starting point is 01:08:38 have risen sharply in recent decades Jesus Christ And they're not How many vertebrates are there And the big problem with that is The height of these vehicles They just don't see Yeah but I cannot fathom this
Starting point is 01:08:49 I have not I don't think I've ever killed a vertebrate With my car Yeah So there's about, what, 350 million people in the U.S.? Yeah, that's one for every person. But most of those people aren't driving. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:07 I mean, a lot of them are kids. Yeah. So, I mean, people are pulling double, triple duty on these. People are killing. Probably not even realized. Anywhere from two to five vertebrates a year. Yeah. This guy in my...
Starting point is 01:09:18 I guess it could be a lot of squirrels. Yeah, raccoons. Raccoons. Rats. Possums. is a bird of birds like me when i hit that pigeon it kept flying but i hit it and then so part of the problem is they they say well this is just what people want yeah because you're not giving us any fucking alternatives dip shit i don't think it is what people want it no exactly
Starting point is 01:09:44 it's not right i think like yes people are buying them because it's harder and harder to find one of these cars right people are having a harder and harder time finding four doesn't make a fucking car anymore. And it's not because people don't want them. It's because they can charge more for the other types of vehicles. Yeah. Right? They can people, well, oh, you would have drove a Ford Tours before.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Well, why don't you get you in our Ford Bronco? It gets 17 miles to the gallon. Cool. And you're going to kill probably two to five animals this year in it. It's just, it's not, man, it's, I believe it, you're four times more likely to get killed if you're struck by one of these things. Yeah, four, I believe it's four times more likely. Good. I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah? No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, according to 2022 data from the U.S. from the EPA, three quarters of new vehicles produced in the U.S. are light trucks now. Great. Make them bigger. Make them even bigger.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Make everyone fucking drive a semi. Here's another shitty stat. Deaths and motor vehicle crashes rose more than 33% from 2011 to 2021. And since 2010, pedestrian deaths have climbed 77% percent. Right, because people are just driving tanks around and sliding into each other. Light trucks, injured pedestrians more severely than passenger cars and crashes, and the size of cars and trucks sold as the size of trucks and cars grows. Some current models, such as the Toyota Ravre 4, are one third larger than they were 15 years ago.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Jesus fucking Christ, man. I swear to God. It's also frustrating, too, because they act like this is the only way. Like, we're electrifying everything, and people want these things. we have to give them to them. Yeah. You know. So there's a, the, the U.S. doesn't have any regulations that require car manufacturers to consider the safety of anyone outside of cars.
Starting point is 01:11:32 But now the NHTSA is proposing to add information to its crash test ratings, measuring how well cars protect pedestrians and crashes. So like they're suggesting, hey, maybe bumpers and hoods that can absorb the impact of a person better than they currently do. Why is that the solution? So why is that the solution? So you could have a five-star safety rating car, but have zero stars for protecting pedestrians, which is, I can't imagine anybody's going to be buying a car based on how well it protects.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Yeah. But geez Louise, man. Oh, I wanted the new, I wanted the new Chevy Tahoe, but it's just not protective enough against human bodies. What's wild is, like, it makes you wonder how many children have been hit, just like friendly fire style. Have you ever seen the video where they have children stand or sit in front of the Oh yeah, you can't fucking see them?
Starting point is 01:12:27 Yeah, they got to like nine children lined up before. Oh, nine kids deep before you can even see the first one. Oh, God. That's eight more vertebrates for this added to the list. I wonder if that $350 million includes humans. Probably
Starting point is 01:12:43 not. But yeah, apparently people are starting. So people are buying things like this and finding that it's so it's it's so inconvenient for their everyday life right getting into your literal semi truck that you need to like have an extra step ladder to get into that people are like buying um more and more golf carts for just getting around their little community there's a city in georgia called peach tree peach tree peach tree city or something like that 30 000 people live there and it's only golf carts we should all just get golf carts yeah because no one's going to talk
Starting point is 01:13:18 about the goddamn trains. Don't get me started on the trains. Did you see RFK Jr., he tweeted, he made me do a little bit of a kombucha girl face. Well? Which was what? Because, by the way, what was just trending in the United States on Twitter, Cheryl Heinz and autism. Or autistic, rather.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Yeah, well, this is, so he, he, what about the trains? He tweeted a, uh, he tweeted a link to a story from China Daily about their plans to make maglev trains that can that can hit up to 650 kilometers an hour and so he tweeted you know let's see why can't we nearly in america next next gen maglev trains can reach speech in four hours if we muster political will and turn our money from war toward national revitalization we could link our cities together with efficient hashtags it is pretty good That's pretty good. Do I sound like?
Starting point is 01:14:19 You sound just like him. Thank you very much. But, you know, yeah, stop talking about vaccines and be the train guy. Yeah, be the train guy. If I were his advisor, I'd be going, hey, it's time to shut up about the vaccines. And even just say, just say you were wrong. Right. Just say, hey, I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Even if you don't truly believe it, just do, just be politics. Sacrifice your whole thing just for trains. Be the train guy. Be the train guy. Make Joe Biden talk about trains. I would love it if you begin train guy. I'm a trained candidate. I'm a train candidate.
Starting point is 01:14:48 oh yeah honk that horn dude he should just wear an old style an old-timey conductor's hat all the time wouldn't we love that rfk junior i would fucking love that all aboard yeah honk honk oh man oh god okay that's a good place to end this episode uh tune into the bonus episode on patreon.com slash pay pot pay where ben's gonna let ben's really going to let people have it i think i feel like a comments video could a standalone video just for our YouTube channel. That's what we should do. Maybe we just release this later and just do
Starting point is 01:15:24 it again. I mean, we can do it multiple times. Reading the comments version one. Yeah, there's tons of shitty. There's never didn't know my idea was shitty. No, no, no. There's never a shortage of shitty comments? Yes, there's never a shortage of people just absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Being unfairly mean to us. Well, it's always unfair to be mean to us, I would say. I'd like to give a very hearty Project 2025. God bless you and God bless America. I'd like to say, look out for my application. You guys keep, keep, it just keeps bouncing back.
Starting point is 01:15:56 And I want that, I want that 180 day playbook. All right, guys, we love you. Bye.

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