The Ben and Emil Show - PP Episode 18: Amphetamine and Betrayal

Episode Date: October 19, 2023

An Adderall addict gets his butt spanked in court by his former lover and friends/coworkers -- yeah, we're talking about Sam Bankman-Fried, Caroline Ellison, and their cohorts at the now defunct FTX and Alameda Research. We also cover AOG Technics, and how they successfully scammed airlines and jet engine repair shops with forged documents for refurbished engine parts. Plus, AMC Theaters CEO Adam Aron did some sexting and got blackmailed. This episode (and every episode) was masterfully edited by Dillon Moore. Check him out at https://www.dillonmoore.co TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 1:15 - Administrative 5:30 - SBF getting his butt spanked 7:30 - Caroline Ellison looks stressed 9:20 - Alameda lacked risk parameters 12:00 - They're all guilty, what FTX and Alameda was, and the crimes 15:00 - President of jail, school soap 16:50 - ADDERALL 19:00 - Wang's code 22:50 - They were all in on it 28:00 - SBF was pulling strings, the judge smacked him down 30:50 - The courtroom drawings 32:00 - Sketchy doctors and magic pills 39:30 - Fake parts in jet engines 42:00 - AOG technics and its history 44:00 - FAA is stretched thin 46:00 - Fakes on fakes on fakes 48:00 - Our investigative queen 51:00 - Should you be nervous? 53:00 - The Duty Free guy died 56:40 - Saving the world on adderall 58:00 - AMC CEO Adam Aron got blackmailed 1:02:50 - We love it + losing bookmarks Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey, everybody. We got a big episode for you today. There are counterfeit airplane parts and jet engines found around the world. It's a huge story. It's been developing slowly over the last few weeks. Is it safe to fly? Well, you're going to have to stay tuned to find out, because we'll tell you. Plus, the CEO of AMC, the Silverback Gorilla himself, sexted the wrong lady, and he's getting blackmailed. We're going to dive into all that. Yeah, and then, of course, we've got Adderall and Betrayal. We've got up. updates on the Adderall genius Sam Bankman-Fried. All of his little buddies are running, squealing like little piggies. They're going to the, they're going in court. They're saying they're testifying against him. And he just needs his Adderall to be able to save the world.

He just needs enough money. He needs enough Adderall. Give him his Adderall, we say. But, yeah, stay tuned. We got a real doozy for you. Cue the intro. Yasoo! Dude, look at your lap.

Look at the way you hold your lap. What? Okay, folks, welcome to another riveting episode of this program, episode number 18, I think, but nobody's counting anymore. At least of all us, we've lost count. A couple of housekeeping things. Yeah, we got administrative housekeeping things up top. We just launched a new series that will be airing every Monday. And we've put a lot of work into it.

So we would love it if you'd go check those out there on you. Dylan put a lot of work into it. Dylan, especially put a lot of work into it. Let him know you love it. For the audio listener, it is exclusive to YouTube because it would be pretty much useless to have as audio. But if you're an audio listener regularly, go check it out. I think you might enjoy yourself. We think you might enjoy it.

Did we say what it's called? It's called Ben and Emile on colon and then blank. And we're on all different kinds of stuff. Airship. dirigible dirgibles dirgibles dirgibles

uh yeah we're talking about all sorts of different topics the first one is movies and I regret to say that I thought it would be a good idea to get drunk Ben got drunk and explained the end of Avengers to me yeah I for a long time

yeah if you thought Avengers was long I did I mean it's basically 90% me just talking at a meal So pretty much an offshoot of this show. I love when my friend comes over and gets drunk and just talks at me. Yeah, we do love when that happens. And then also the Patreon, we're going to have our first TikTok episode for my monthly TikTok roundup,

which I think is for the $5 tier, right? I think so. And then we're going to do our call-in episode soon, probably next week or something or the week after, because it is for the month of October. We're going to do that. And if you're new here, welcome. Oh, also big thanks to everyone who came to the show. It was so fun.

Oh, yeah, Emile's show. Thanks for coming. I wasn't there. I was in Dallas. And it could be come to a city near you. Was it good? It was so good. Did you kill?

It was so fun. Did you kill, as comedians like to say? It was just really fun. It was really good. go ahead i had a guy dm me and asked me uh what to do with his ticket that he bought for your show because he couldn't go and i said my brother i don't know you got the wrong guy i don't know what you want me to do i don't know so i told him hey man i'm not in town but try the reddit also why do people buy tickets for stuff it seems like every time is it just because we have this perspective

now as people who sell tickets to shows where it happens a lot more often than you think? Yes. Where people buy tickets to shit and then they're like, I actually can't go. It happens all the time. Definitely. Okay. Yeah. You've just never been on the receiving end of it. You just show up at shows and go,

it's weird here and I can't shit. When did I ever do that? When did I ever show up and say it's weird? All the time. That's why I try to, man. That's why I try to man. Well, I try to get it out. before I go anywhere.

What's that? Feces? Yeah, before, especially, especially before a flight. Boy, if I have an 8 o'clock flight or something, 8 o'clock in the morning, talk about a panic attack. I better be able to get it out because going at the airport is a non-starter. Unless they have one of those all-gender, unless they have one of those all-gender bathrooms where you can close the door behind you and it's completely private.

Oh, you're like, I can't shit if the airport's not woke. well that's what cracks me up about all gender bathrooms it's like every bathroom should be all gendered what about a bathroom in a house it's a little different not mine mine's actually men only that's true that's true there's a sign above the toilet well i do actually get pissed when there's not a urinal though in a bathroom yeah yeah yeah we deserve that as men it's just nice to piss in a urinal also you would think that it is more practical for sitting if you think about it just like you can rear your butt against it and just yeah anyway speaking of putting your butt up against urinals where let's dive right in so we haven't talked about in a while

yeah ftx and sbf scam bankman fraud scam bankman fraud boy oh boy he he's getting his butt spanked he's just getting his butt spanked every which way from sunday even by even by his own friends his own friend but deservedly so when you look at what he's he's done he he he he he He got them to commit all kinds of crimes? He directed them. I mean, that's... We'll get into it, but I will... Some of these things you hear, the, you know, the FTCS board and other members of the higher-ups, you're like, okay, they act like they have no agency or whatever or that kind of thing.

It's like, they're like, I found out that we owed $8 billion, but I knew I needed to stay. Yeah, I was scared. So I asked Sam and he assured me that it. it was fine. So I believed it was fine. Right. But so the big headlines are that his ex-girlfriend Caroline Ellison, um, the big headlines are that she's finally tested, she's taken the stand and she's testifying against it. So it's Caroline Ellison who you is probably the most famous other person a part of this outside of SBF. She was, um, the former CEO of Alameda Research, which was the, the trading firm affiliated with FTX. Also, sometimes,

girlfriend slash lover they were on and off a few times correct if you want to think about that hot situation down in the Bahamas kind of like us sometimes lovers yeah sometimes not I'll leave it to the people to figure out if you're porking each other right now and then the others you probably have heard of Gary Wang the co-founder of FTX Nishad Singh a former head of engineering at FTX and then they both testified as well the last guy Ryan's Salem Has not, he was a CEO of FTX Digital Markets, is their subsidiary in the Bahamas. So I think it would probably be most fun to kick off

with just these great visuals of, here's Caroline Ellison spotted outside the courtroom, and she just looks, I believe, as you put it, she looks like one of those before and after. I don't know what I said. She looks like the after of those before and after photos when you see a president entering office and then seeing after all the cortisol has been coursing through their veins. Well, yeah, someone pointed out that she looks, they all aged a decade in a year.

Yeah, yeah. And look, foo, staring down decades in prison, I would probably also not be feeling good. She, yeah, I would not feel good either. And especially, yeah, especially when you got to rat out your ex-lover. Mm-hmm. You're 28 years old. That's what would kill me the most. Riding out your ex-lover. Yeah. I hate ratting. I mean, is it ratting or is it protecting? Eh, it's a bunch of things.

But she, and I'm not meaning this as an insult. You just have to understand that my brain works this way, where if I see something, I'm going to just blurt it out. But she looks like a Disney. Oh, we know. She looks like a human Disney mouse accountant. She looks like a, she looks like a Disney character that's like an animated mouse. who's also a nerdy accountant with glasses who's been anthropomorphized.

There's also these great, I still don't understand. My favorite is when someone tweeted it. It looks like the courtroom artist lost a lot of money in FDX. And we're looking at these courtroom, why do they still do courtroom sketches? Why don't they just allow fucking cameras? I don't know. That's a good question, Ben. I nobody can be sure. Nobody actually knows the answer to that question. But yeah, so she's 28. She ran

the Alameda research. It was a hedge fund. Famously did so without risk parameters. So I'd like to at this point play this famous clip of her boasting about not having any risk parameters. So here it is. Absolutely could pull it off without my math degree. Use very little math. Use a lot of like elementary school math. She's talking about operating a multi-billion dollar crypto hedge fund and she uses very little math,

quote unquote. Comfortable with risk is very important. We tend not to have things like stop losses. I think those aren't necessarily great risk management tool. Trying to think. Stop losses are like the standard

risk management tool. It is a failsafe. You put in place where you tell the computer, hey, if the price reaches this point, sell it, period. Yeah, so we don't lose more. I guess in crypto, it might be a different, they might view it differently because there can be such wild swings, so they don't, they might not want to get stopped out of a position and only to have it, you know, rock it back, but still. I think of a good example of a trade where I've lost a ton of money.

Well, I don't know. I probably don't want to go into specifics too much with that. Also, I love her giggle. It makes me sound like an idiot, but the, every time she says she majored in math where I read that, I'm like, is that not fucking crazy? Majoring in math? Why is that crazy?

Because it's so hard? No, because it's so broad. It'd be like, I majored in science. That's a good question. It's everywhere. A Stanford University graduate who majored in math. And I'm like, surely they just didn't feel like digging in more. But she just said it, my math degree.

Yeah. That's a good point, man. It's like majoring in social studies. Huh. And also, math is absolute. What's your, what's your, what's your thesis going to be on? I'm going to prove. There's some guy screaming at us right now.

Oh, yeah. For sure. Just on it. There are certain proofs. that have yet to be proved. They're only theoretical. So, calm down, dude.

We get it. Two plus two is four. If you majored in math, I'm happy for you. Yeah. Actually, I'm not. I'm pissed at you. Well, speaking of math,

we can all do the math that she was making a fuck ton of money. She was making $200,000 a year salary. Then she got a bonus of $20 million in 2021. But at trial, she did admit that she committed fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud and money laundering with Sam scam bankman fraud and others as they stole from customers and investors in FTX and lenders to his hedge fund Alameda.

So there's a couple, I'm going to up top make a couple distinctions here so you don't get confused thereafter. God, excuse me, damn it. Also, it's important to note those people we listed up top, Caroline Ellison, the one we're talking about now, Gary Wang, Nishad Singh, and Ryan Salem, they've all, pled guilty SBF is the one has said not guilty

he didn't do any of this to this whole spate of fraud and conspiracy charges right so FTX was a crypto exchange right it is where they connect buyers with sellers basically

FTX had a ton of investors and it was its its books were open to those investors Then there was also his hedge fund called Alameda Research. It did not have open books to investors. It had lenders, but it didn't, it wasn't the same kind of structure. He was using Alameda Research, the hedge fund, to prop up FTX and in some cases vice versa. When FTX, they were using customer funds, it'd be like me putting money, you putting money

into your checking account, and then Bank of America using that money, which would be against the rules, using that money to, like, go pay off some other... Or make risky bets. Yeah, sure. So now that we've got that out of the way, she's quoted as saying, SBF directed me to commit these crimes. She said that he set up systems that enabled Alameda to withdraw unlimited money from F-TX accounts and directed them to use it to repay loans.

$14 billion total was eventually withdrawn. She repeatedly said that he was behind the biggest financial moves of his companies. And for some reason, Bitcoin that they mined were even called Sam's coins, which is really fun. We love that. We love that. He named them for himself. But the headline of this is what's really great because he apparently SBF envisioned leading huge companies and using the money

that he would make influential in Jesus Christ influential especially in politics and he gave himself a 5% chance that he'd become president someday I can see that yeah I can see it's still happening still shit yeah why not

he might run for president from jail he might you know what he might run for president for the president of the freaking jail do prisoners elected like a prisoner Is there a prisoner body? Like there is a student body at a high school? Always. Yeah?

Yep. The president, the representative? Yeah, and you get to, you know, you do things like, uh... You get to take a shower first? You try to push for better food. Wait, are you being serious? There is that? No.

Because fuck. There should be that. There should be that. All right. Get the meanest, baddest dude out there to advocate for all the rights of the prisoners. Yo, we need better soap. I'm open to it. Yeah?

you know what soap I miss from school is the powder the soap that Trader Joe's got rid of they discontinued no I'm talking about the powdered pink soap the tea tree oil soap why did they stop why'd they stop doing that it beats me why do they get rid of any of the products I like at Trader Joe's huh why'd they give rid of that jalapeno hot sauce I have no idea what you're talking about I don't notice when Trader Joe stops I did something I just assume that they're out that week no I asked oh no we stopped doing that well at one point Wait, do you remember the powdered pink soap? The Trader Joe's T-Tree oil.

The powdered pink soap that you would get in elementary school, you'd hit the little metal thing, and it was very, oh, God, I love that shit. It smelled so good. It even had, what's it called where you take off a small layer of skin? Exfoliating. Yeah, it had exfoliating properties. Oh, so good. So at one point, Sam Bankman-Fried was worth a whopping $32 billion.

A lot of these people were billionaires on paper because they owned percentages of FTCS. Right. So one of the things that's been going on with SBF is he has, he's, he's been really clamoring about getting his precious Adderall. He needs Adderall. Just like all of us. You know, I will say that, so on Sunday his lawyers appealed to the judge requesting that he be given his 12-hour extended 20 milligrams of Adderall before the trial on Monday. Right. Because right now they're giving him. So apparently he's currently allowed to receive one dose of Adderall.

The drug is prescribed for his ADHD between 4 and 6 a.m. each day. But the lawyer said his dose wears off by the time the trial begins each day at 9.30. Jesus Christ. Why don't fucking give it to him at 9? Yeah, I don't understand. Why are they waking him up at 4 a.m. to give him at all. They say he has not been able to concentrate at the level he ordinarily would. And they're arguing that without it, he'll return to his depression and ADHD,

which will negatively impact his ability to assist in his own defense. I get that. I get that. It makes sense. I mean, when you phrase it that way, is it being about being your own defense, like if it's crucial to that, but I don't know. Would you be able to argue just as, I guess you wouldn't? I was going to say, could you argue just as well that I need my coffee before I plead guilty?

Look, if I'm facing life in prison, then my defense lawyer says, what do you need? what can we get you? I'm saying as much Adderall as you can fucking find. I'll say we can beat this thing. Just get me the Adderall. He's like Popeye with spinach. He really thinks that it's like, no, I can figure a way out of this. And the fact that all my boys and my ex-lover is trying to put me away, just get me some Adderall. They're trying to... We can do this.

Yeah, she's testifying under a cooperation deal that could get her leniency at sentencing. They're all trying to... They're all trying to get better deals. Yeah. Oh, boo. I mean. So, like, Gary Wang is another one where, because, so apparently SBF is not a coder. No, not at all.

So Gary Wang and people like Nasjad Singh, who was the, who was the head of engineering. Gary Wang was overseeing Singh, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're writing the actual code of a lot of these things, apparently at the direction of SBF, but making a lot of these things possible. Mm-hmm. um one of them was the the code that allowed alameda research to have these uh this very loose

relationship with ft x there's one line of code in particular that they're really focusing on that was called quote allow underscore negative which allowed alameda on ftx to have a negative balance and this was done to avoid liquidation so the way that that works is and so here's a tweet from sbf himself alameda is a liquidated alimita is a liquidity provider on ftx so he's saying that his own hedge fund is providing liquidity on the exchange ftx he's saying that hey we're out there buttressing certain trades if necessary but then he goes on to say their account is just like everyone else's though the hedge fund's incentive is just for ftx to do as well as possible. By far, the dominant factor is helping to make the trading experience

as good as possible. So that's what he's alleging on, was alleging on Twitter. He was first saying that it was to be able to pay for expenses for the FTT token, which was issued by FTCX, according to Wang. But after being implemented, the ability to go negative was used for other things, like trading, unlimited withdrawals of FTCX fees and customer money. So, Usually, if a, I mean, he's saying that Alameda was treated as any other account. If any other account were to go negative, they'd immediately be shut down because FTX would be on the hook. Right. If you overdraw your checking account, Bank of America is going to shut you down.

No, no. And they're going to charge you some fines. I mean, they're not going to, yeah, if they, they actually let you because they want to charge you fines. But I'm talking about, you know. But also, I'm pretty big over there, so they wouldn't do that. They wouldn't do that? What do you think they'd do? Mr. de Rosa.

They'd say, take more. Take more, please. How much do you need? Yeah. And I'd say, get me that adderall. Get me some adderol and I'll tell you. Why don't you give me some adderol and I'll tell you. So Wang said that he trusted SBF when he said that they could withdraw money so long as it didn't exceed FTX's revenues.

And when it did, that's when Wang said he knew it must have been coming from customers. So SBF's basically sitting back chilling. Wang comes to him like a chicken with his head cut off saying, hey, what's going on? We're withdrawing more than our means. And SBF's going, hey, as long as we're not exceeding how much money FTX is taking in, we'll be fine. Right, we'll rectify it.

Yeah. And then they started exceeding that amount. And SBF still just starts throwing him some more bullshit. Like, oh, yeah, but it's backed by the FTT token when we got all this liquidity elsewhere. And it just started to very quickly get very fucking messy. And so because, as, I said earlier, FTX's balance sheets were visible to investors, and Alameda's weren't.

They used Alameda to assume some of FTX's losses, including several hundred million dollars in losses from this debacle with a coin called mobile coin in 2021. And so then by 2022, as you said, Ellison Singh and Wang figured that Alameda owed $11 billion and FTX's revenues were only one and a half billion. So you remember just a moment ago, hey, don't exceed FTX's own revenues, but they did by fucking $10 billion. But wait, so this is a perfect. I want to talk about the thing I was saying at the beginning where these people like, you know, they want to put it all on him, but they also had this crazy complex about it. Yeah.

So this is Nasjad Singh. Asked how he felt about discovering the hole in the balance sheet. He says, I was blindsided and horrified. I felt really betrayed. But he felt he couldn't leave. He wouldn't be able to live with himself if his departure meant that FTCS fell and the fall was avoidable.

Bankin-Fried had told saying he was indispensable. So it's like, they find out it's going on. They're like, oh, this is fucking horrible. But like, well, I can't get out of the situation or do anything about it. I just have to fucking sit here and... I wonder if he thought that he could fix it. It sounds like that's what it was, right?

Because he was like, if there's a way that this could be fixed, you know, I'm one of Sam's top guys And imagine I left him and didn't Well and also he did have an incentive Because in lieu of cash bonuses Oh yeah he got equity

Staking FTX Right Otherwise he was only getting 200 grand a year Only 200 grand a year I mean for the amount of like The You gotta get something in ex

If you're putting your fucking life If you're doing that much fraud You better be getting I mean Ellison She got $20 million dollars yeah so but so then yeah they after the these three figured out how fucked alameda was alameda investors figured it out too they wanted their money back and so sbf directed ellison sing and wang to pay them using ftx customer funds he just was like moving around the shells like

okay truly just a Ponzi scheme like hey okay let's grab let's grab the checking account money and pay off our hedge fund investors who now want their money back and it's just it's a mess okay so now how are we going to pay back the the FTX customer funds if we're barely making enough to stay afloat while all this is going on he's literally like doing media appearances and stuff and there's a very famous episode from the the podcast called odd lots where he is a guest with um shit what is that guy's name Matt, Matt Levine. And I don't think they've played that part yet, but they have played clips from this episode where SBF is describing stuff. And I'm sure it's coming. And it'll be very fun when that is played in the courtroom. But there's a moment where Matt Levine just flatly

asks him, like, how is this different from a Ponzi scheme? And he just like, explains a Ponzi scheme. And Matt Levine's head is like, about, he's like, that's, yeah, you, yeah. And they're like, okay we can move on was that around the time that he also tweeted uh on november 7th he tweeted right if it was like in the summer because all this stuff exploded in the fall yeah it was it was like this is our golden boy of crypto this is i we know there's a lot of bullshit in crypto we know there's a lot of scams and whatever but this guy's the real deal he's got him on stage with tony blair and bill clinton where he's look at that wacky hair he drives a honda civic i mean we know people who were like who seemed smart and informed about all the stuff who

bought into the ftics i thought that i i didn't know anything about him except for i just trusted the other people who yeah i mean he was fully vetted by yeah the powers that be yep i fully thought that he was some kind of weird genius and his uh his net worth reflected that genius and who's the kevin no who's the money ball guy michael oh yeah that that guy. He was writing a book about him. He was like, wait,

you mean not Moneyball, but the big short guy? Same guy. Oh, oh. Moneyball. What are you Googling? Moneyball guy?

Yeah. Moneyball guy. Michael Lewis. Michael Lewis, that's right. Oh, yeah. He just got fucking murked. Michael Lewis? Yeah.

Didn't you get fully tricked? Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like he fully fell into the, into the trap of SBF. He got lost in SBF's beautiful brown eyes. Truly.

Yeah. He was like, I'll go down to Bahamas and be another lover. One of the things that they showed in the trial was the actual balcony on which Singh approached SBF. And the way that they paint it with words is that SBF was just kind of strewn about like a Greek guy getting fed grapes like in ancient Greece just on the thing, just saying, don't worry about it. And Singh was, they're, they're just trying to, the prosecution was trying to underscore the excess because they're in this beautiful villa in the Bahamas on this, on this veranda and FTF is just saying like, don't worry about it. Do this. And then, you know, we'll be fine. There's a weird point where in the verge article, they make a, they make a point to say that apparently his

mother, Barbara, got, took issue with this story. She said to really set the scene, Singh testified, To set the scene as Singh testified, Prosecutor Nicholas Ruse pulled up a photo of the balcony in question. Barbara Freed, the defendant's mother, appeared incredulous as the luxury balcony appeared on the screen. As Singh told the story of the conversation, Freed appeared agitated, occasionally glancing in the direction of her son. Right. What, I mean, what's her point?

I mean, there's all kinds of wacky shit. Apparently Caroline Ellison has these, like, weird fans, and they're going to the trial to watch, you know, because everyone can't get into the room, so there's overflow rooms where they're putting it on Twitter, on TV screens. Yeah, yeah. And I love that.

I'd be one of those fans. I'm a fan of hers. You're an Allison head? I love Disney characters. True. I love human Disney characters. But yeah, this is, it's, it's, she's standing up for himself.

She's, she's fighting back. She's, fuck. Well, wait, so what I really liked was on November 7th of last year, SBF tweeted, FTX is fine.

Assets are fine. FtX has enough to cover all client holdings. And then Wang immediately said during trial, FTX was not fine, and assets were not fine because FTX didn't have enough assets for customer withdrawals.

And then four days later, on November 11th, FTX went bankrupt. Remember it just like all of a sudden? Just, whoa, oh, holy shit, this whole thing just fell apart. We were in Japan. Yep.

Watching it all happened. We were. So then, SBF directed that, wait, he directed Wang to transfer money on November 12th to Bahamian regulators who he believed would be more likely to let him stay in control and still try to salvage the whole situation, all while United States regulators were ordering him to transfer the assets to the U.S. for seizure. And, man, even when he was caught, even when the ship was sinking, he still insisted to maintain control over the steering wheel. He's incorrigible. They, you know, they put him back into custody after being let out on bail because he kept contacting witnesses and trying to tamper with witnesses. That's right.

I mean, he cannot be stopped. He's a menace. Yeah. Just as it's all going to get. Truly. as it's all going down, just like holding Twitter spaces. Yeah. Just an absolute menace.

Yeah, he's been in jail since August because the judge determined he was trying to influence Ellison and other witnesses. Yeah. He couldn't be trusted to a wait trial. And I think he's out on, I think his bail amount was set to like $250 million. Just to ensure. Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure his parents had to put up their house as collateral. Yeah.

But he's, but he's in jail. Like he's got a, because they were like he's, we cannot stop this guy. Yeah. He changed his hair, apparently. Apparently, that's one of the things I like about the courtroom drawings is that he changed his hair to a more respectable, like, slicked back look to, yeah. Yeah. She's got the, look at this courtroom. Awful.

God damn. They really did our girl dirty. The sad puppy dog eyes and then him looking like a mafioso just, look, I love this one. For the audio listener, God, I wish you could see it. She looks sad on the, she looks quite stoic. actually on the on the on the on the stand and then he's just kind of he looks like he's got a crow magnin forehead honestly he from what they did to her he looks great yeah he does fucking it looks like they put her in the toxic avenger machine or something Jesus Christ I'm not I'm not

saying that I think it's a drawing yeah it's not what she actually looks like yeah they did her dirty she's uh she's she's got it going on she's got it going for for sure is what we can all agree on i don't think they will because i mean i can't imagine it going well but i hope for our sake we get um we get some testimony from s bf just let's get this dude just fucking zooted off some adderol just i would actually love to see absolutely yeah well we couldn't buzzing off amphetamines god dude get them get them the amphetamine salts i mean as someone who let them just rip yeah I don't think the defense would let him take the stand.

I mean, it's ultimately up to him. They were saying that before he could even enter a plea, he needed his Adderall to figure out, I need my Adderall to be able to think clearly. It begs the question, have we gone too far with Adderall? Yes, absolutely. Is SBF our fault? Yes. I mean, Adderall, I'm a perfect example of, I was able to go into a doctor and just say,

I can't really think in school, please. and he's like, okay, well, here's 30 milligrams of amphetamine salts. And I just got 60 of them per month, 60 of them. We had a guy in New York everyone would go to. Yeah, I was that guy. You had to go once a month. Oh, the doctor. I wasn't prison grabbing any.

No, no, no. Just everyone would recommend, go to this guy. And then literally all of a sudden I went one month. It was just gone. The practice was gone. No shit. The DEA probably busted. I have no idea.

It was so weird. that they did. Yeah, my guy was just, uh, he would require me to come in like once every six months to feed him the same bullshit so that he could have plausible deniability. Right, you had to come in. For me, it was every month. And he was just, yeah, he'd check my blood pressure and just be like, so you, uh, yeah, you're still feeling like you can't focus? And I'm, I just went like, yes, sir. I mean, it, it was kind of true. I was definitely, it definitely helps you focus. It was helping me focus truly it was but god what an awful i was about to start doing financial crimes if that thing comes in it could have been me instead of i i in as much as i wish in as much as

we govy and and ozempic have kind of finally they finally found for the most part a viable magic pill for um weight loss arguably i just want them just come on man put all that scientific effort toward giving us a clean Adderall. Give us that shit. I mean, one would argue it exists within the miracle that is Diet Coke, but no. There's nothing like that first week of Adderall. Oh, my God. When you first, I remember, I still remember this kid.

God damn it. I won't say his name, but I, I, he, uh, he came over to my house when I was like 19 or 20. My parents were out of town. And, uh, he raided, we, my parents kept all their prescriptions right there above the toaster and he goes oh let's see what drugs you got your parents got and then he saw my dad had adult ADD so they prescribed him some your dad had it yeah but he didn't like it so he didn't do it so it was just sitting there and it was five milligrams and he goes oh man this this stuff's really good you should try it sometime and I went yeah whatever and then

like a week later I tried it and I reported back to I tried one pill five milligrams and I said it didn't do anything she says how many did you take it? fake i said one five milligram pill he goes dude you idiot you gotta take like three it'll it'll five milligrams is nothing you really do start cruising at 15 milligrams so i brother i hit i did three of them and it was just like it was it was a whole new world and i thought oh this is awesome i feel great yeah it's you dipped in you sauce that's a good that's hmm hmm what it's you dipped in you sauce that's what it's you dipped in you sauce that's what it feels like yeah yeah yeah you're like I'm dipped in me sauce yeah you feel you feel like everything you've got to say is is is um you just feel like every

conversation is good and important yeah oh you just start writing down your own thoughts because you're like this is people are going to need this okay uh before I like figure out my life I first need to get organized. I've got all these things I need to organize, but you know what sounds really good? Jerking it off. Man, God, that sounds so good right now. I didn't so much have that. I had the thing

where I was like, okay, I'm going to take it so I can get all this work done, but then it's... I got a clean before I get all this work done. How am I supposed to get any work done in this? I should watch this baseball game and keep the score. Keep score. That's such an adult thing to do.

I want to watch this baseball game and keep score myself. Oh, shit. What would you do, Dylan? Yeah, keep score of a baseball game. I would just like, I'm finally going to organize my bookmarks. Your bookmarks. Yeah, on the computer. I'm finally going to have it all organized.

And then I'll finally be able to do the thing. Oh, yeah. Once I figure out what the thing is, I will be ready to do it. I would get into, I was like, I need to clean up all my playlist. I don't want any duds coming on. I want to be able to put this thing on shuffle and it's just all banger. So it's just like hours of like, no one listens to them anymore. I'm going to go through my pictures and delete all the duplicates.

But first, I'm going to play some halo online just to kind of like, you know, loosen up. And then fast forward 15 hours later, it's. three in the morning, I'm outside smoking a cigarette, pissed off, because in 15 hours, I leveled down instead of up. I actually lost progress. Just pissing off good gamers in the, uh, anyway. Really good stuff. And you can drink a thousand beers on it.

That's a pretty cool side effect. Yeah. Oh, boy. I mean, God, if you're out there and you're thinking about dicking around with Adderall, trust us when we say, do it. Do it. Let it rip. do it do it give it a shot it's so great oh man yeah yeah if you want to age like 10 years

in a year just fucking rail adderall for a year right convince a convince a an unscrupulous doctor to give you it shouldn't be that hard shouldn't be that hard or just you know rob a pharmacy how you do it is up to you okay should we switch gears i mean i so we're we're we're we're going to wait to see what else comes out of this but man oh man they really so much insane stuff coming out we covered a little bit in the bonus episodes we were talking about SBF's crazy parents yeah it's just he thought that he discovered the infinite money glitch but what it turned out to be was just an in an immoral glitch yeah oh god he was an infinite money bitch i think that's what they called the fucking uh i think that's what the michael lewis book is called

going infinite because when Michael Lewis first contacted him he told he told him for what I want to do to change the world I need infinite money wow yeah I mean so cool cool dude me too I definitely need infinite money also for what I want to do with the world there's a net I'm gonna get it I know I know it's flying over the fucking whatever yeah anyway I wish I had my adderall So there's a big spooky story that came out on, what was it, on Bloomberg, this expose. Yeah, I have to tell you guys, this was a, fucker. Sorry, go on. I won't do it again.

It was so fun to show Ben this article and, um, and watch him read it live. I was, I was shocked. But yeah, so, so Bloomberg put out this big, they've been, they've been working on this story since I believe August, basically about, it's called Ghost in the Machine, how fake parts infiltrated airline fleets. And they basically started looking into the story because a maintenance contractor started noticing that some of the parts, and this was for TAP, Portuguese airline. They noticed that some of the parts they had didn't really add up, right?

they were replacement parts that were supposed to be brand new, but they had weird wear and tear on them for a brand new part. That was inconsistent with the paperwork that said this is a brand new part. So they started pulling paperwork, going back to the manufacturers and all that stuff. And everyone's going, well, this is all fucking forged. These are forged documents. Forged signatures. Oh, yeah, from employees that either don't exist or that they made up, all this stuff.

and they uncovered this crazy forgery ring. And if you are afraid of flying, this next part might not be for you. But don't worry, we'll get to the part where maybe you don't have so much to worry about. But so the, oh, that was something else. So as Emil said, it was Air Portugal's maintenance subsidiary. And since then, since it was discovered, Saffron, Saffron, which is a French aerospace company, they're the ones that make these engines. They are the CFM 56.

They make them with GE, General Electric, and they've discovered more than 90 falsified certificates for parts found on 126 engines, all linked to the same distributor in London. And that engine is extremely popular, right? Oh, yeah. Every single Southwest plane is... And a lot of the other New Jersey Airlines in America. So like the 737, basically pretty much every 737, some of the Airbus A320s, I think, use these. I'm probably wrong.

You guys can't see it, but he's literally hard right now. He loves this shit. But, yeah, so they found them all linked to this same distributor in London from this company called A-O-G Technics. And it was started eight years ago by this guy named Jose Alejandro Zamora Urala, who I didn't like that, or not. article put this, because it was kind of, it felt a little racist and inaccurate. He was a part-time DJ from Venezuela. He is. Yeah, but he also did legitimately work.

He did. But before that. Yeah, he was a DJ from Venezuela. Yeah, he was a, wait, I have some of it. He. Good for him. Okay, so yeah, born in 1988, Zamora dabbled in, you hate this, huh? Professions from music to real estate before settling into the world of aircraft parts.

Good for him. For a while, he spun techno tunes. DJ fuck your plane up Techno teens under the stage name Santa Militia in Venezuela, Italy and Spain in 2022 he married Ledden an interior designer on the island of Majorca. A couple was

photographed at the rural luxury retreat sporting matching Rolex watches and cradling a pair of babies dressed in identical cream-colored rompers and we'll get into it. The business of forgering highly lucrative airplane parts. Yeah. And also terrifyingly not a new phenomenon

So they found that all major U.S. carriers and half a dozen others have identified bogus parts from A.O.G. on their planes. There are no emergencies at the moment, but it just, it all highlights this gap in the system that he exploited. So just a couple of data points. There are 22,000 of these CFM-56 engines in service. And in fact, I was surprised to learn that every two seconds, a plane with these engines takes off somewhere in the world. with potentially a bogus part yes so since this and when we say bogus we mean it appears that the the the main fraud that was occurring was selling refurbished parts as new because so here's the deal uh the federal aviation administration here in the united states and the uh european union aviation safety agency, they don't regulate the secondary market. Right. They had no jurisdiction over this. Yeah. Because it would just be, it would be impossible for the FAA. They say that they lack the resources to regulate. So what they rely on are the maintenance companies and the airlines to kind of almost like an internal Yelp sort of system.

Right. You guys are going to be responsible for making sure you're putting the right parts in. Yeah, because there are parts get replaced on airplanes constantly. Which in the airlines have an incentive to, right? They don't want to put a bogus part in their airplane habit, which we'll go into, this has happened in the past, you know, all of a sudden you're flying, it's vibrating more than it's supposed to be. All of a sudden, it's fucking rips open. Yeah. So it gets tricky because there was an FAA endorsed quality assurance company that had accredited AOG in their practices. But then when they go and ask the the company that was doing the quality assurance, They had subcontracted that out, and that entity had gone to London and apparently said,

wow, everything looks hunky dory here. But then as soon as they turn their backs, you know, they're actually engaging in fraud. It was just fraud. Right. And so they talk about a bit of the timeline, right? So they say AOG started off humbly. Humbly. After a year in business, the brokerage had just over 7,800 pounds in cash, company filing

show. The fledgling company moved from residents to. residents around the London area over the next few years as its sales gradually grew. By early 2019, it had 18,000 pounds in cash and made a profit of 22,000 pounds, the record show. The business abruptly prospered. For the year ending February 2020, AOG reported 2.43 million pounds in cash and a profit of 2.2 million pounds. Company record show that shortly after AOG began selling thousands of jet engine parts with falsified documents, the engine makers allege in that Matthew Reeve, a lawyer for CFM has described in legal filings as a sophisticated

deception on an industrial scale. Man, it turns out that fabricating parts or falsifying documents that state that refurbished parts are actually new, there's some pretty high margins to be made. Well, you get them for much cheaper, sell them for much higher. It's capitalism at work, baby. So one of the funny things that they found was that they apparently, there was this fake, one of the many fake things was a LinkedIn profile for a Michael Smith who was the AOG Quality Assurance Manager. But if you look at, if you do a reverse, we've got

the image pulled up here, if you look at the reverse Google image search of him, you can find the same photo on stock image sites as a confident senior man in a white t-shirt. Which I always love how they describe them. That's what I want to get my parts from him. From Confidence, Senior Man and White T-shirt? Yeah. Yeah. Who else? Yeah.

So, yeah, one of the biggest instances of fake parts being an issue was in September 8th, 1989. There was something, there was a partner flight 394 carrying 55 people from Oslo to Hamburg crashed. And investigators found counterfeit bolts and brackets on the tail section, which had failed. and that kicked off this whole massive undertaking and investigations here in the United States so in the 90s there was this woman named

she was the Transportation Department Inspector General who we absolutely fucking love her name was Mary Shivo Pay Pig salute to Mary Shivo Look at her, look at her I mean look at this woman Also I do want to know guys watching Ben find out about

an airplane crash he didn't know about in real time was pretty special Just, ooh, oh. I don't know about them all, but I did not know that this one, this is the first one that I knew. I had not even a clue that counterfeit parts were ever an issue because I naively thought that the FAA would never allow that. It's an extremely regulated industry. Yeah. But like you said, it's one of those things where they can't possibly regulate the minutia that is involved in regular aircraft and engine maintenance.

Right. So they point out, a rash of bogus. aircraft parts sparked a furor in the 90s, as the U.S. Transportation Department's Inspector General at the time, Mary Shivo led investigations into fake parts that helped secure about 120 criminal convictions between 1990 and 1996. She told us, she told a Senate oversight panel in 1995 that the industry was so awash with suspect components that one must unavoidably draw this conclusion. If it is a part of an airplane, it could be bogus. She also sparked with FAA officials whom she accused

of downplaying the potential risks proposed by unapproved parts. Don't fuck with Mary Shibov. She knows what she's talking about. So in response, the FAA just kind of farted into the wind. They released a voluntary program in 1996 for part sellers to agree to audits and other checks to

accredit their quality assurance practices without straining the FAA's limited resources. So it's kind of, like we were saying a moment ago, it's kind of like a Yelp system, just a trust like, hey, we've worked with this company, enough to trust them. We've got positive reviews or whatever to back it up, and everybody kind of agrees to, yeah, self-regulate. But that's how you get them, right? Right. You're a modest

shop, you know, you got 7,000 pounds in the bank, and then all of a sudden you go, you know what, we get the trust of the industry. That's exactly right. It's time we start forging documents, baby. Yeah. So 30 years later, you've got this engine company was directly duped. They installed parts from A.O.G. and 16 engines. They bought used parts that were advertised as brand new. So the whole system is basically, it's based on the trust that the documents provided are real. And the other issue is that they're mostly paper records. Right. So it's quite antiquated. Airlines have to check these records one by one. And in some cases, there are several suppliers deep to ensure that they don't have the parts. It's like, okay, this part was bought from this company, from this company,

from this company. And it's estimated that repairs can cost up to $300,000 per engine depending on how deep they've got to go. Yeah, that's going to be pricey for airlines, huh? Yeah. There's also a, there's a part where they talk about just how widespread it was. Legal filings reveal the scope and means of the alleged fraud. Forgeries turned up at an engine services provider northeast of London, a part supplier in Florida, a maintenance firm in Scandinavia, an airline in Africa and another maintenance outfit incorporated in Germany, among others. Well, Emile, I'm concerned. Myself and loved ones have flights coming up.

Should I be... Dude, we're getting on a flight in a couple of weeks. I'm going to be white knuckling next to you. I sure hope those fan blades aren't from A.O.G. Jeez Christ. But they say that for now there's no immediate risk to flight safety and no evidence that life-limited and safety-critical parts were involved. Life-limited means that they are only meant to...

They're parts that are meant to be cycled out after a certain, after a certain, their life limited. It's like, it's not just wait for it to fail. It is no, after, however many miles, yeah, yeah, get it out of there. So they're saying that there's no evidence that there's any parts like that or any ones that are safety critical are involved, but still it's. But, yeah, in a worst case, they could be discarded or damage components that have no business being in the unforgiving heart of a jet engine.

Their temperatures run hotter than the melting point of metal and blades can spin it more than 10,000 revolutions per minute. So think about that when you're sitting in, Coach. Yeah. But, you know, to that I say, I can't control it and I got to get where I'm going at any cost whatsoever, even if it means me dying due to fake parts. So bring it on, fate. Oh, God.

I really don't want that to be replayed when I die that I tempt me. I hope some British... No, play this at our funeral when we die in November. You hope that some British what? No, I hope it's some British scammer that takes me down. I mean, yeah. Better that than... Than an Irish scammer.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Dude, come on. Well, I guess on the topic of airplanes, there was a guy Wait, I'm obsessed with this guy. Charles Feeney. Like, I don't like, okay, so if you ever gone through an airport, you're familiar with the duty-free shops. Oh, I don't like duty-free.

Sure. But this guy. You like his whole philosophy. Well, so real fast, the guy, the duty-free shops that you all know and love, when you walk through and you see a giant bottle of Cavassier or whatever, and it's like... And like the cheapest carton of cigarettes you've ever seen your life? Yeah, because you don't have to pay taxes. There was a guy who thought that up.

Who said... Charles Feeney. Yeah, his name was Charles Feeney. And he basically was really good at business, but also hated money, apparently. Right. He made billions of dollars operating a global network of shop, selling liquor, perfume, jewelry, and other items at tourist tubs. He gave over a billion dollars to his alma mater, Cornell.

Yeah. Why would you... I don't understand the people who love their college so much that they're like, I want to give you money. You've never made billions of dollars, though. Yeah, I guess, but I wouldn't give any to Cal State Long Beach. Or maybe I would. Maybe I wouldn't and have to build a bathroom in my own.

He's got such a nice. Philosophy? He does. Everyone who makes a ton of money is like either like, I'm the fucking best. That's why I did it. Or like that thing of like, anyone can do it. Maybe don't be so lazy, you dumb piece of shit. But he says much of his success, he said, was dumb luck.

And he didn't need a vast fortune to support his modest tastes. He wasn't just like, like he knows he stepped on a. his own dick and was just like great this kicks a half stepping on your own dick is bad though yeah it's like when you say someone stepped in shit it's like being it's ironic oh yeah yeah like you really stepped in shit with that one yeah yeah it's like a good thing yeah he i the part that i didn't like was that he said he actually prefers to flying coach because get the fuck out of here who if you've flown i know i don't believe him on that like come on dude like none of us are gonna you don't have to sell me on that kind of false modesty flying coach sucks objectively

Right. Some of it does seem a bit put upon like he got a, it might have been Cornell. Oh yeah. Okay. In 2012, Cornell named Feeney an icon of industry and as a joke presented him, presented him with a $13 cassio watch because apparently he, you know, he. He said I can get, well, these resell for quite a bit on eBay. Shut up, dude. All right. I mean, you're awesome, but still. Apparently he preferred those like cheap watches. Yeah. I mean, hey, I have timexes that just will not quit. Got him for like $35. I just don't even wear a watch because my stupid fucking wrist bone gets in the way stupid fucking wrist bone. Somebody get me a file so I can file it down.

But I just, I'm obsessed with this guy. Yeah? Well, calm down, dude. He's dead. He's not going to fuck you. I concluded that if you hung on to a piece of the action for yourself, you'd always be worrying about that piece. I like that. That's a good quote from him. People used to ask me how I got my jollies

and I guess I'm happy when what I'm doing is helping people and unhappy when what I'm doing isn't helping people. But we talk about that on the show all the time. Like, we're always like, how much is enough? Because we watch these sickos just like, like toil away at squeezing every last fucking thing and preserving as much of it. Just like, hold into court being like, what's wrong with you? Yeah, yeah.

And so it's nice to see someone who's just like, I love the idea of a guy getting hauled into court just so they could ask him, what's wrong with you? Truly. SPF, what's wrong with you? But it is so refreshing to see someone just go like, oh, yeah, that's enough. It's, okay, we're good. By the way, just to backtrack a bit, is there any, the epitome of an Adderall brain is going, I could save the world.

I just need unlimited money to do so. Oh, how Adderall brain is that? To be like to just, because I've had that thought. where when I was high where I was like what should I do with my life you know what I should run for president I should do it I could do it I could run for city council first and then be the mayor and then be a senator

and then boom right there I'd be I'd be good enough to be run for president dude's like what I was reading the president thing I was like anyone who's experienced like the early days of an Adderall prescription it's like I could 5% chance 5% chance I could run for president no I can do it

I can fix the world with enough money you're like making a list of your friends you're like he could be a campaign manager he's good with people yeah it truly is and to give yourself how does he oh how did he come up with 5% oh got about a 5% chance of running for president dude Jesus Christ

well I guess our last story is is a fun one the AMC CEO, Adam Aaron. Yeah, we haven't checked in with the apes in a while. God, dude. And this is King Ape. He stylized himself as the silverback. The Silverback gorilla.

Yeah, the CEO, what is Aaron? Adam Aaron. He was getting blackmailed, and he did the right thing. He went straight to the FBI, even though it meant embarrassing and humiliating himself, which is kind of what Jeff. Bezos did. Remember when Jeff Bezos was getting blackmailed a while back about his dick picks? And he said, fuck it, release him. I don't care. Or his nudes. Yeah. But also, he's been married since I think 1987. So a bit of a tough. Yeah, this guy, Adam Aaron.

Bit of a tough. But I mean, so that's the thing. This guy's been a bit of a a nut for a while. This is just another. A nut chasing a nut. A nut chasing a nut. Exactly. Boy, howdy. So, you know, Semaphore broke it down. They said, Aaron embodied the meme stock craze when amc shares soared alongside alongside those of gamestop blackberry and other left for dead companies calling himself the silverback and taking twitter now x he became the spiritual leader of an online army of retail investors known as apes who gather on social media sites to await the moas mother of all short squeezes all while he was dumping shares onto the market and so they said this is just like another in the long line of questionable decisions he made

There was the interview where it seemed as if he wasn't wearing pants. He wasn't wearing pants. If you look at the, it's clearly he's just sitting on a computer chair with a suit, a shirt, and a tie and no pants. It's like a guy can't be comfy anymore. It's not insane. He spent $28 million buying a steak in a teetering gold. He didn't buy, he got the company. AMC bought a $28 million steak in a gold mine.

Right. He called it a bold diversification move. One analyst called it idiotic. He also had a plan at one point to deliver AMC theater popcorn to people's houses and also at one point, of course, pivoted to NFCs. So the thing is, he was sexting with a woman from the Bronx. And this woman is another hero to the show. He was sexting with her and then she tried to blackmail him for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Wait, wait, this is my favorite part, though. What? The texts, because I need more details on this. All right. So Aaron, who has been married since 1987, mistook her for a woman with whom he'd had a prior relationship. Yeah, a ballerina. Asking whether she was a ballerina who had done unmentionable things to him. Yes.

Please, don't just leave. What are they? Yeah. I'll do anything. Well, she probably plugged him or whatever. So he sent her nudes in response. He finally got around to texting nudes and apparently sexy pictures of himself. with some other woman.

So hot. Trying to do like a three-way or something. Insanely hot. With this woman he thought was a ballerina he had already had sex with. So she sent, so this woman from the Bronx, who's blackmailing him, sent him texts from burners and went on to pretend to be a Vanity Fair reporter

and demanded hush money. So she's really running this elaborate scam, making him think that he's all but found out and about to be exposed. Yeah, she pretended to be an ex-boyfriend and was sending things like, offers are coming in like crazy people love a scandal yeah send me some i mean so instead of uh instead of paying the ransom he went to the fbi pussy and the so the board the amc board of

directors is in this funny position because they're like he didn't technically do anything wrong he didn't in terms of the business he didn't like compromise corporate secrets or anything he didn't do anything like that but it's just one one one more thing in a long line of questionable behavior, like you said. This guy just continues to act like a psycho. Yeah, what a fucking... I love him, man. Make him...

What a CEO. We need more CEOs like that. Like, the guy who's the CEO of LaCroix. Why is he in that? National Beverage Corporation. He's an insane person. Oh, didn't we talk about this? We did way, way back in the day.

And he also got accused of coming on to his private pilot or something. Like he came on her? No, him. this guy was a male and the private pilot was a male and just like came on him he didn't no he said coming on to yeah he was coming onto him sexually like oh like like approaching like like making sexual advances and uh yeah also that guy's uh press releases for national beverage corporation are just fucking insane really entertaining stuff but any who should we stop there we got a lot to talk about in the uh in the bonus this week

Yeah, we love an up, we'll just say we love an absolute nut job CEO. We love when people scam others. We love it when, uh, when dudes get absolutely blasted on Adderall and think that they can save the world and run for president. And we love, we love Disney characters turned, turned human. We should do one month where we, um, each get an Adderall prescription and we just see what we can accomplish. With the show. Yeah, we'll see if I can finally clear out all my bookmarks. By the end of the month, we're just like interviewing Tom Cruise.

God, can you imagine? I remember one time I had probably 50 bookmarks open across like four different windows or something. And of course, you think that they're all so important. And there are things that you need to read and can't afford to lose. and somehow my computer just crashed and I lost all of them and I thought oh fuck this this was so important I lost all of this shit that I need to recover somehow and I could not recover it and then I just had to let it go I just was like well I guess I just need to tell myself that it must not been that important and it was very freeing my friend it was very freeing for a brief moment

And I thought, uh, I guess I, in a roundabout way, I did clear all those bookmarks. The bookmarks was the friends we made along the way. That's right. Well, in the bonus episode, we're going to be talking about some, uh, there's a TikTok I got to show you, this kid wrapping, this white kid wrapping. And it's, uh, oh, is it Drake's son? No, it is not Drake's son. Adonis? No, but I did see that, but I didn't want.

I saw it. It came across my feed, but I skipped over it because I thought his child was a baby. he's six okay people got mad at me because I shit on it and they said emil he's six years old

yeah I don't care you enter the rap game you get all right save it because I really want to hear and yeah

anyway thanks for watching everybody we'll see you in the bonus patreon.com slash paypigs pod bye