The Ben and Emil Show - PP Episode 5: How Pinkydoll Broke Everyone’s Brains

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

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Thank you, Emile. Thank you, Emile. Do something different. Thank you, Emil. Mmm, Diet Coke. Diet Coke. Ooh, I love Diet Coke. What's the 20 get me?

Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Hitting him with the five again. Thank you, Emil. More 20s. Ooh, I love Diet Coke. Yes, yes, yes. Here's a hundred. Thank you, Daddy.

Ooh, here's 40. Thank you. I'm at a dog. Jesus. Why do you have so much cash? How much cash does this guy have? Let's see if he knows European. Oh, oh, oh.

That's a 50, too. Fuck, how much? How do Europeans say thank you? Shit. No, say thank you in European. Thank you. Thank you. thank you man what the fuck money bags for the audio listener emil has just handed me 150 and i can't

even bother to count all this just a ton of a fuck ton of cash and for everyone else i'm so sorry but that was um oh boy how do we describe this that that that that was my attempt at the latest disturbing trend on TikTok live where people are acting like NPCs and for my mom out there an NPC is a character non-player character a non-playable character non-playable character wow NPC guy over here Jesus Christ it's got a lot of different connotations on the internet it's it's by if you're being called an NPC from like an edge an edge lord or an exceedingly online person it's an insult. You're basically calling someone...

Oh, you're like, you haven't woken up yet in the... Yeah, you're not red-pilled. Yeah, yeah. You're just an MPC. You're someone who doesn't think for themselves. But so there's this... Are we MPCs? Yes, yes, yes.

Yeah, I'm an MPC for sure. There's nothing going on up here. Sometimes, no. I mean, you seem perfectly suited for that. For being an MPC? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was taking that money.

So I just want to play this clip. There's this woman on TikTok. Everyone's seen her. Everyone is seen her. Everyone is seen her. Everyone tuning into this has seen her. But if you haven't, brace yourself,

because it is probably one of the more dystopian things, this podcaster has ever seen. So here we go. Ah. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, gang, gang. gang gang gang gang gang oh yes strong woman oh take you mark you got me feeling like a queen

huh huh okay who's coming up with the thing she's saying Is she making those? I don't know Or are those like TikTok sounds I don't know okay there's a lot to unpack here First of all you can't see it

But she's popping popcorn With a flat iron Oh that's what she's doing She's got a hair flat iron thing And she's got a little tub of unpopped popcorn kernels. And she's sticking them in the hair straightener. Until they pop. Until they pop.

And what is that for? I don't know. Okay. But as people are gifting her, I guess on TikTok, you can gift people certain little items like ice cream cones or coins or whatever. And each one has a dollar value equivalent. And this woman can then cash out all of that shit. And I'm assuming that for each thing that people give her, she has a reaction for it.

So if they give her a coin, she's saying yes, yes, yes, yes. And then if they give to her a little ice cream, she goes, hmm, ice cream so good. Oh, thank you, you. You got me feeling so cool. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I don't like seeing a daughter in the background. There's a child in the background? Yeah, go back like just a couple seconds.

Right here. Thank you, you. You got me feeling so cool. You want to say child-piving? Yes. Oh. Yeah, there's a little child. Well, I knew because I've seen videos where she breaks character and she says,

I told you, I told you to go to bed. Get in bed. That explains this tweet from Ian Miles Chong, who's probably, do you know who he is? Kind of, he's like IDW adjacent, I think. IDW Intellectual Dark Web Oh yeah yeah He's he's

I think he's based Out of Singapore Or South Korea Or somewhere In Southeast Asia And he is He's a Yeah he's

He's part of the Intellectual Dark Web But He had to chime in Of course And he said TikTok live streamers Are getting

Completely out of hand This woman even Neglects her toddler To pander to viewers On stream Motherfucker Wait plays a clip I want to see her

Neglect her child No I want to see her I like, I like when she, I think she's kept a quad. I like what she, I like what she speaks French. Look at this, look at, just look at this still image. She's got a fucking fake cowboy hat and mustache on. She's got like inch and a half long nails and she's popping fucking God. I do like when she goes,

Okay, let's see. Mmm, ice feels so good. Take your Lopez. Slai, huh? Um, ice cream so good. Um, ice cream so good. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, take you Blake, take your Jace, gang, gang. Take your joy, take your I don't know, take your Tay, take your I am.

Ooh, oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. I can't watch it. Where does she neglect the kid? I guess the fact that she's doing this constitutes neglect. If you are not constantly on your, taking care of your, you know, your kid you are neglecting your kid it's fucking stupid this guy's a moron he's always got the worst takes on on the entire internet he says the quiet part out loud he says the quiet part out loud he's woken up he's taking the red pill he's not mpc yeah he's uh it's really i don't even want to spend

time on this guy no no no but so oh boy it is it is a i had no idea what's going on so i was at a bachelor party because that's all i do i go to bachelor parties that's true that is your professional at this point if it's not a wedding i go to a bachelor party Yeah, I do feel like I'm going a little bit crazy What does that have to do with these? But I would scroll Twitter every so often I'd go, what is this? What's happening on?

You'd turn around and show the guys? Yeah. What's going on? What are these? Yeah. And then someone was trying to explain it to me. It's a, so it's a way for people to now make money. As all the social media companies are competing for creators,

Snapchat is the best one. They pay the highest amount. Yeah, but that's just like story after people per story after story and they're making And this is so that comes from advertisers mostly and this is people getting creative with audience interaction It becomes a thing where You're encouraging people to interrupt the broadcast and interrupt what's going on to kind of control it themselves And then you get that kind of thing where she's popping popcorn but constantly having to stop to say her dumb little catchphrases she has extremely long nails too it like it's very difficult to pop popcorn to take a kernel and place it

onto a to a hot iron while while popping imaginary bubbles i mean i got to give it to her the woman is professional she's damn good at what she does and she apparently makes upwards of 4,000 a month she even said at one point i think she's making like 7k a month so i say good for her but nice work if you can get it. Yeah, she, here's, here's another one of her. Ooh, I like her outfit. Of course you do. Macy. Fire. Yes, yes, yes, yes. No, fire, you're calling me. You love me. I love you too. Gang, gang, gang, oh, oh, oh, oh, fire. Fire. What? Where's her? I want her speaking French. I don't know, man, but Jesus, is she Brazilian? Type in, what's her name, Pinky doll?

Pinky doll? Type in Pinky doll breaks character. Pinky doll breaks character. Fuck. Well, you also wrote Pink doll. Oh, Pinky doll. Jesus God. Okay.

Pinky doll... Fuck me. Okay, here we go. She broke character and people checked out. Okay, four, three, two, one, zero. Go, let me see. Go make it in a car chasm. It's not a toy.

Balloon. She goes right back. Ah, two, three, balloon. This is, I just have to say that I need to apologize to someone. And I think we all collectively owe an apology to. Do you know who I'm going to apologize to? No.

The Unabomber. He had some good points. This is, I don't know. even i i it hmm on the one hand on the one hand i i don't there's there's some good of this like this woman is providing for herself and her child on the other hand people's brains are so broke who's out there giving her money to do this seems like a lot of people yeah uh no i mean i get it it appeals to like our worst impulses right it's like you could just you just get to make the person do

something over and over and over again yes that's not the only that's not the only kind of there are all sorts of different it's like a virtual dunk tank yeah yes that's right so i want to play for you a couple other interesting ones so here's here's uh i'm going to make it bigger this is um probably some kind of ASMR thing right she's not the only one doing it everyone's getting in on the everyone's doing their own kind of thing There are 10,000 people who are watching this particular live. And for the audio listener, it is a doll's mouth. And this person is wearing gloves and just spraying it over and over with water, it looks like.

Oh, they're making her do stuff? I have no fucking idea. Oh, I don't like that. Jesus Christ. I don't know what to do anymore. Here's one. It is simply a woman asleep on a couch and there's all sorts of different things you can, the sounds that you can play to make her...

Wake up. Wake her up with a fart. How is it all making a fart? She's being, she's totally being held captive. All right, here's... This is clearly a woman in, like, Malaysia or something. Why? Because of how she's dressed.

Okay. And she's slowly inflating a giant balloon and looks like shit. And she's just, yeah. Apparently, if you give her one of these mawars, she'll pump a ballon. That's actually a good deal. It's a pretty good deal. If you know the conversion rate on moir's, you get one pump a ballon. One pump a balon is, that's kind of a good.

Well, let's see how it works. Five, five, nine, June, four, land. You, okay, 10, atu, wak,

go. Pause a for a second. I did say, people are getting pretty creative with it. Yeah, yeah. BuzzFeed was one of the first

people to do this kind of thing. Oh, got nuts for a pomp of boulon. Does she actually pump with a ballon? I don't know, man. I don't know if it pops. Let's see. What a rip-off, man.

Okay, yeah, what a rip-off, man. Oh, and here's this guy. He's stacking fucking fucking... See, no, this is not a good deal. There are 800 and 87 people watching this guy

in... Where is he? I can't even tell. It says his name is Vlad CNN, so I'm assuming somewhere in Russia. Stupid. No. I think this might be

what would happen with CNN Plus. My friends, care. What? He might work for CNN. And now now, Oh, man, very topical.

Yeah, CNN Plus. Yeah, I remember CNN Plus. When did that go under two years ago? I don't think it did. I think they sold it off to Pards, to Vlad CNN. To Vlad CNN. He's just stacking the most, the world's most pathetic one-plied toilet paper. If you want people to tune in, you better pump a balloon, dog.

Jesus Christ. So these are the people, and they're all emulating this. Pinky doll. Pinky doll is the most popular here in America. I guarantee by now she's making upwards of 20 grand a day, Because people have got to be tuning in and sending her all sorts of coins and shit. Makes the question. What are we doing here?

We should be on there supporting her. Yeah. I bet she's live right now. Okay. So this woman. I can't believe I just did that for free. I know. I know.

This is fucking stupid. Yeah. You were giving me 20. You were giving me way too much money for it. Yeah. Hell of cash. So this woman, Natuay Coco, was the winner of TikTok. Japan's 2022 Live Creator of the Year Award.

She's really fucking good at this. She looks like, have you seen this? She looks like a video game character. Does she pump a ballon? No, she doesn't pump a ballon, but look at this. Watch this. Yeah. Looks like it.

She looks like an actual video game character. Yeah. There's a filter on her, right? Yeah. Her eyes are definitely not that big. Okay, for sure. And her cheeks, that's not a natural blush. Yeah, yeah, no, I was asking for the audience.

I think they were getting confused. I knew. Wait, look at this. Watch your laugh. Is this a sex thing? Of course. Okay. Of course it's a sex thing.

For sure. You want to know who Pinky Doll's number one viewer was? Timberland. It was Timbaland, yeah. Timbaland? Timbilland. Fuck, this is suddenly the whitest we've ever been. Timberland.

It's like my dad used to call Snoop Dogg, Snoop Doggy Dog, which is what he used to be called. Yeah. Yeah, but then he got rid of it in the fucking 90s. If you really want to date ourselves, we used to call Diddy, Puff Daddy. Then it was P. Diddy. Yeah. We've lived through every iteration of Puff. That's true.

I miss it was just Puff Daddy. What's he now? Sean Puffy Cone. I think he's Diddy. Diddy, that's right. Yeah. Puffy? Did he?

I don't know. Diddy? didn't he didn't he tell me fuck oh jesus i i i just i don't know what's happening anymore i it doesn't get any more dystopian than this oh just wait it will how do you think it's going to get worse than this um i mean how could i tell but we're so this is so early days I want someone to do a fight club on the internet. I think they're already doing it. No, I mean how they blow things up.

Oh, oh, oh, the plot of... I want someone to do the blow up. I'm surprised there haven't been more... Copycats? Yeah, because of the internet's love and admiration now. There is a large contingent of... That's why I'm trying to... You know what the problem is?

What? It's too easy to get guns and not easy enough to get bombs. So everyone's doing mass shootings, but what we need is to get bombs. All those guys, they're... But he's talking about blowing up buildings without people in them, right? Not the guy. Yeah, that's what I think you meant, is that we did that... I'm just surprised, though, that there are, because there are so many young men who are

disgruntled by this and rejecting modernity... Discovered by this? Yeah, this kind of thing. This is the, like in a sense that they're jacking off? This is, this is peak modernity that a lot of people

are starting to reject and I am surprised that there haven't been more attempts on large server farms and things like that. And do you agree? We should get, we should make bombs

more readily available. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how you, make bombs more readily available, Emile? I do. How? I don't know.

Army surplus. I also think it's a bad equivalence because it's pretty easy to make bombs, isn't it? I don't know. Whatever. I'm sure, yeah. I'm sure that, yeah. There was a guy on TikTok also who used to show kind of things like that, but it was more anarchist kind of.

It was like doing the anarchist cookbook thing. Right. Like, here's how you disable a. a car that you might not want in your neighborhood like a cop car kind of thing anyway so i just i i had to i had to share this with people because this was truly one of the more upsetting things that i've seen in a good and bad way i'm simult i'm equal parts entertained um laughing about it can you you just touch me with your foot yeah it was an accident oh my gosh because you can do that whenever you want but anyway

Anyway, we're getting foot cam going, aren't we? Oh, boy, there it is. But regardless, I think this lends itself to the other thing, the other big thing going on right now, which is the actor strike that we're going to talk about. And, you know, part of the, I mean, part of it is how much people will care. I mean, if everyone, if the captive audience is just watching TikTok lives and paying people to hair straightener popcorn,

it doesn't bode well for any of this i disagree i think that there's so much entertainment out there that it's become such a niche you niche fuck i think we're just going to get absolutely roasted i think he's wrong both times yeah i did what is it then niche niche no way okay whatever point being there's enough entertainment to go around and satisfy every little desire that people might have whether they want to watch a netflix show whether they want to watch some dipshit crack popcorn and say gang gang over and over and over and over

while giving them hundreds of dollars. Yeah, one can hope. What was Timbaland do? Is he turned by? Is he trying to fucking off a lot? You think so? He liked the one specific thing she was doing and just kept.

What was it? Do you know? No, making all this up. Oh, I would fully believe it if she kept going, ooh, Timba, ooh, Timba and like shaking her titty's sure. But anyway. Well, so yeah, speaking of the actor's strike,

I saw... Speaking of it. Did you see Mission Impossible? No. It's so good. And it's the perfect thing for right now because part of the, I'm not going to spoil anything, but a big. Dylan, did you see it? Of course he did.

A big. What? What was that? What? Nothing. You saw it. Well, of course. A big theme in it is people versus AI.

Spoiler. Preciant. This is just the episode of fucking upwards. No, no. just it's fine it was like the littlest thing you know i know yeah yeah just just move on shut up of course well it was very it was very on the nose and i actually have a screenshot of something that our good friend of the show matt grippy said on instagram it was a very poignant he said round two of dead reckoning really solidified it for me as the best in the series a meta commentary

about the threat of AI on an industry and how the only way to fight it fight against it is to showcase feats that only humans can achieve. You can play into the tropes of a genre without succumbing to what the algorithm expects of you. In fact, the way you surprise and delight people from within those constraints is what movie magic is. The way Gene Kelly or vaudeville-era performers wanted you to see their blood, sweat, and tears on that screen is the same wavelength Tom Cruise is working on. He wants you to see how he spent $200 million to almost die. He leaves it all on the table. You see every blood vessel straining when he's hanging on that cliff. yes maybe he's in that case but what's the alternative fat ass vin diesel phoning it in cgai dwayne

the rock johnson demanding you buy his new tequila i agree with that okay great uh what no the well i just want to explain what's going on here a bit because we're we're putting the cart before the horse oh yes what's going on so the the writer strike has been going on since may second yes they're 70 something days into the strike uh they the directors, there was a point where they thought that the directors guild and the actors guild was going to be striking at the same time, which would probably end it very quickly. The director's guild was able to reach a deal with, um, with the production companies and, but the writer, sorry, the actors guild has just authorized a strike and gone on

strike. Um, so the union representing more than 150,000 television and movie actors is on strike. Um, and this is, so this is, So this is big because this is the first time that the Screen Actors Guild and the Writers Guild has been on strike at the same time since 1960, 63 years ago. And a big part of it is AI, artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence and residuals are the big things. And yeah, but it's important to note. So when they went on strike together in the 1960s, that was the first time they won pensions.

health, health plans, and residuals. So, yeah, but it's getting, it's getting nasty now. That's right. It's getting real nasty. There were some leaks that, I don't know if you want to call them leaks, or if they were intentionally put out by the studio heads, that their strategy is effectively starving out the writers. Oh, dude.

They are basically saying they're going to wait until people start to lose their apartments lose their homes so this was a this was an article in deadline they it's an anonymous head of the studio so we don't know exactly who it is um but yeah this is from some of this is some of this is some of this is from the article regardless of weather sag after goes on strike this week because this was before he said it before they actually authorized the strike the studios have no intention of sitting down with the writers guild for several more months this is a quote I think we're in for a long strike and they're going to let it bleed out said one industry veteran intimate with the POV of studio CEOs.

Receiving positive feedback from Wall Street since the WGA went on strike, May 2nd, Warner Bros. Discovery, Apple, Netflix, Amazon, Disney, Paramount, and others have become determined to break the WGA, as one studio exec blatantly put it. To do so, the studios and the AMPTP believe that by October, most writers will be running out of money after five months on the picket lines and no work. This is a quote. This is the one everyone freaked out about. But the endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their

apartments and losing their houses. Studio executive told Deadline, acknowledging that cold-as-ice approach, several other sources reiterated the statement. One insider called it a cruel but necessary evil. Yeah, because they can't seem to all come to an agreement on how residuals and payments should be structured in the world of streaming. and right and the problem is if you don't know what residuals are like usually these things will tied over actors writers and people working in the industry because if you're not working

for a time you will get residuals when it's you know sold to another network and being played somewhere else and all these things you get checks and because these things were fought for in the studio system when streaming came around there it wasn't really established and you're seeing actors are now posting stuff uh it was the woman from orange is the new black forget which character it was but she posted you know she was being funny she was like oh my god look at all these i'm gonna be rich look at all these episodes i was in and listening all the episodes and then she gets down to the part where it's her payout and it's $27 yeah jesus christ and i wonder what that's based on hours of total hours well that's a good question right it is a very confusing

thing it's it's not uh when you're talking about the studio system it's it's it's related to individual shows but when you're talking about streaming something like netflix it's like i mean again they'll have to come to an agreement on how this is going to work but it is definitely more confusing right you're talking about you're talking about people paying a subscription fee to have access to all this content not necessarily orange is the new black right not necessarily there's an interesting perspective there's this analyst at wedbush securities named michael pactor you familiar with him no he covers media entertainment all that stuff and he's talking about how the dumbest thing all of these studios and networks could have done

was follow the netflix model which is exactly what they did what they did he said what they should have done is pulled their content this is a quote from an interview he did uh with yahoo finance What they should have done is pulled their content from Netflix and kept it off of streaming for three years and not allowed us to become accustomed to an inexpensive way to view a mass quantity of high quality content. Wait, sorry. He's saying who should have done this? The other studios. All the studios and networks should not have followed the Netflix model.

Oh, and gone into streaming. Because it got us all hooked on this. Right. Because. I mean, that's all content. I mean, even music. We're all stuck on, we all used to like have five. I mean, and before that, we had CDs and albums and whatever, but now it's just, you pay $10 a month to have access to pretty much every song in the world.

So he said, having, getting us accustomed to an inexpensive way to view a mass quantity of high quality content, they blew it. And what's his name is the, is the biggest behind Les Moonvese from CBS, CBS, yeah. He's saying he's the biggest being Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney. He's the biggest culprit. So for him to say it's not realistic, because that's, again, that's what Bob Eiger was one of the ones who was quoted this last weekend. I believe he said, well, we're going to watch that clip from. Yeah, but he called the union's demands unrealistic. So for him to call it unrealistic is insane because it's not.

And the pactor gives an example of sports. Sports figured out a way they can pay out 50% of overall revenue to athletes. I did not know that. And somehow that works. So, yeah, the price of a ticket to a football game went from $25 to $200. or more, but we got more television. We now have Monday night, Thursday night, Sunday night football. We used to only have one. So more football on TV because they have to pay the athletes more. You get better distribution of television or film to televised content if they pay the actors more,

and you'll get better content. And succinctly here at the end, he says, I think Iger, who's only a few years older than me, is a Luddite. He doesn't get the tech. He's afraid of it. He's emulating it poorly. And I think he's just completely wrong. And I agree with that. I think that the way that they've gone about doing this, they've shot themselves in the foot, and now they're backed into this corner where this model is unsustainable. Where you can't, it would be sustainable if you didn't have all of these entities, these people, these actors and writers to pay.

Because otherwise, yeah, you're just getting, which is where Netflix stands to gain the most. They are the most insulated. They have, they've shipped off, they've got like 25 shows in Korea filming right now. And those can get repurposed. and changed into all sorts of different languages, they're good. They are not sweating at all.

The ones who are sweating, they're not sweating. They have such high free cash flows. They're sweating. No, no, I just don't know if like, oh, we have 25 Korean language shows. But that's just an example.

That's on top of the 15,000 titles that they've currently got available. They don't, they're not hurting for. Netflix shows sucks. Yeah, but the point is that they are not, the people who have it, the companies that have it the most difficult right now are the ones trying to move into the streaming game no the broadcast and network television companies CBS ABC Fox because they have but

they're all trying to move into streaming aren't they yes so but just the top of the docket for them is they need shows they need soap operas daytime they need everything for the the coming fall seasons. And they don't have that. So what I think is probably going to happen is these individual networks are going to have their own individual contracts with these unions. So you'll probably see, yeah, ABC or CBS or whomever drafting their own bespoke deal. I fucking hate that word. But it's true. It applies here. Bespoke deals with the various unions so that they can at least have something in place. I can't see them not having a uniform deal for their, I can't imagine the unions accepting

that. Why wouldn't they? They're going to be different anyway, by virtue of the model. I mean, broadcast television is going to be different than a Netflix anyway. But you're saying they would be like, these things are okay at ABC, CBS, Fox. For what it is that they're trying to, so like, if they're trying to just put on the new season of how I fucking how I fucked your dad and it's coming out in the fall

not a real show no how I just whatever show that they're going think of any other show I can't think I don't even I don't know I don't watch broadcast tell I was going to say the big bang theory but that's over the Goldbergs Abbott Elementary Abbott oh thank you you're welcome Abbott Elementary they're gonna

they need to have that ready to go for the fall season or the No, but sometimes they don't. Like, that's the thing. These strikes will just disrupt it. But if they're, if NBC is able to make their own deal with, I don't think that's the case that all of them, all the studios aren't collectively going to. Yeah, that's what the like the association of motion picture. Like they have to strike a deal.

Exactly. But I'm saying that some of these studios are going to have to break off and just say, okay. Okay, so you're saying that whole thing's going to break apart. I think that it's going to break apart. And some of the individual studios that stand to suffer the most are going to just make their own deals. And then the streaming conundrum and the AI stuff that they're at a stalemate with will just get kicked down the road is what I personally think. I mean, there's, so did you see Barry Diller talking about how. Barry Diller?

No. He's going to. He's like a media mogul. He launched all kinds of stuff. Own production companies. But he was basically, he said, these actor and writer strikes could lead to Hollywood's absolute collapse. And so, I mean, if, I mean, I don't.

Just fucking pay him. Right. I think this is, this is, they all go, they drum up all of this attention about how it's going to affect consumers. And, but the real story is that like all these people are workers. and consumers are workers and, you know, I mean, that's the coolest thing about this is that you have very famous people talking about how these unfair labor practices affect their lives. And, you know, I think people normally view actors as famous people who make a lot of money, but it's, you know, you're talking about a union that represents 160,000 people. It's a small, very small percentage of those 160,000 people are making millions of dollars, right? A lot of them are. are working class people who are straining together projects, you know, just enough to make the minimum, which is you have to, you have to hit a minimum of about $26,000 to be able to stay

on the SAG, health insurance, those kind of things, you know, there are the very public figures, Tom Cruise, Dwayne Johnson, all those people you just listed, but that is not the majority of this union yeah uh unfortunately by the time this comes out Netflix will have had its earnings as of this recording it's in a couple days it's in a day or so but I think that they're going to have blowout earnings and their stocks going to jump 10 to 20 percent and I think that that's going to really enrage a lot of people because like I said they're going to be able to weather the storm better than anybody right now and right now right now Now having to not have to pay riders and crew domestically is going to basically just be a free bump on their margins.

And they're just going to get away with, well, now, actually, this is, it's going to be a really awful headline that it's really good for their bottom line, which people are already talking about. Right. They've been talking about that since the strike started. It's just a, it's just another big bummer. So should we watch what? Well, yeah. So it's been very, it's been very, it's, it's cool watching very famous people step in and talk about taking power back. I mean, just on that Barry Diller thing, you know, David Simon, TV creator, TV show creator, retweeted that Barry Diller quote. And he was, he said, then it, you know, because Barry, Bayer dealer was saying the strikes could lead to Hollywood's absolute collapse. He said, then it needs to collapse. If you can't figure out how to pay your workers a full living wage. and share some profit while grossing billions, paying yourself hundreds of millions and making Wall Street analysts happy with your numbers. Your industry needs to be fucking rubble.

Good point. You know, your point about sports stuff, it's like there are ways that you're talking about massive profits here, right? There's, and media is going full. It's always like this when there's a strike. It's always like, well, how's it, you know, it's not fair what they're doing. they're talking about they're talking about all the you know just all the cost the production companies have and like it's between $400 and $600 million

that each of them are responsible for but then you start taking CEO pays of all these companies and it's like it's like way more than this it's like okay give them a little bit of haircut and there's your fucking money right there you know what I mean stop with this fucking bullshit give them stock in the company

another example of it is when it was deadline, so when the Oppenheimer premiere was happening, they were in London, and the strike was called, they were no longer allowed to do press for Oppenheimer. So they bailed. Yeah, the actors bailed. And I guess they asked Matt Damon some questions. And then when Deadline Hollywood did the headline, they said, Matt Damon at the Oppenheimer premiere says that Hollywood labor strikes will be brutal

for actors and his own production company, which has shut down one of his company's films. And then people watched the actual clip. And they were like, that's not, so they had to correct it. And they said, Oppenheimer star Matt Damon on SAG after going on strike. If our leadership is saying that the deal isn't fair, then we got to hold strong until we get a deal that's fair for working actors. It's the difference between having health care and not for a lot of actors, and we got to do what's right by them. And they put a little, a previous version of this tweet was for lacking Damon's full statement in the copy. We regret the inaccuracy and apologize to Mr. Damon.

Suck my dick. So everyone's got to like keep everyone honest here because. Yeah. Do you want to play the, should we play the clip of Bob Iger complaining? Yes. Okay. From Sun Valley, Idaho.

Yeah. They're checking in with Bob Iger. We're in the midst of a rider strike and very likely it would seem to have a actor's strike. How is that going to impact things and what are your expectations there? Well, I think it's very disturbing to me. I, you know, we've talked about disruptive forces on this business and all the challenges that we're facing and the recovery from COVID, which is ongoing.

It's not completely. By the way, Disney lost like over a billion dollars on Disney Plus last quarter. Right. So, of course, he's fucking hurting back. This is the worst time in the world to add to that. Well, is he hurting? Because he did just get, what was it, $27 million? Yeah.

Well, his compensation, but still, he's got an answer to the. He's got an answer to Wall Street. Disruption. I understand any labor organizations desire to work on the behalf of its members to get the most compensation to be compensated fairly based on the value that they deliver. We managed as an industry to negotiate a very good deal with the Directors Guild that reflects the value that the directors contribute to this great business. We wanted to do the same thing with the writers and we'd like to do the same thing with the actors. factors. There's a level of expectation that they have that is just not realistic. And they are adding to a set of challenges that this business is already facing that is quite frankly very

disruptive. So they're not? No, they're not. Why not? I can't. Crucial question. Why aren't they being realistic? Let's see what he has to say. I can't, I can't answer that question. I again, I was. Oh, okay. Okay, sir. Did you see one of the, what? One of the things that, just with the AI, one of the suggestions that was being put forward was for background actors to have their faces, their likenesses. So you can have them come on for one day and then you can just use them throughout the whole thing. Why not just manufacture fucking fake people if you're at that point? I don't. I don't know.

The stable diffusion is at such a place. I don't understand how stupid these people are. Okay, so now here's SAG after President Fran Drescher. For long time, for long time listeners, you'll know. She played what? This is huge for me. I'm a huge Fran Dresher fan. Yeah, I'm a huge friend Dresher friend too.

Huge fan Dresher friend. She's such a babe. She just looks like a New Jersey mom. It's insane. Oh, man, so it does something for you, big time. How you, how you, yeah, okay. But then when she starts talking about, you know, supporting labor and everything. you absolutely explode in your pants.

No, no, that's not. I wasn't getting it. I cannot believe it, quite frankly. How far apart we are on so many things. How they plead poverty that they're losing money left and right when giving hundreds of millions of dollars to their CEOs. It is disgusting. Shame on them. They stand on the wrong side of history.

at this very moment fully agree oh i mean yeah we agree and it's like i was saying earlier they're losing millions and hundreds of millions of dollars because of this model that they've foisted upon people because everybody had to copy netflix who by the way were the first to kind to kind of disrupt the whole payment part of of the industry they were the they were the first ones to undermine labor practices and because they they weren't adhering to the same rules as traditional Hollywood studios because they weren't been they were moving fast and breaking things that's exactly right we love we love it when they move fast and break things all right so no but can you let's let's watch Sean Gunn because he it's crazy you know you don't often see them call people

out by name and Sean Gunn is in Marbleville movie is directly calling out Bob Iger Yeah, it's, okay, here we go. I think that when Bob Iger talks about what a shame it is, he needs to remember that in 1980, CEOs like him made 30 times what the worker, what their lowest worker was making. Now Bob Iger makes 400 times what his lowest worker is. And I think that's a shame, Bob.

And maybe you should take a look in the mirror and ask yourself, why is that? And not only why is that, is it okay? Is it morally okay? is it ethically okay that you make that much more than your lowest worker and if so why why is that okay if your response is that that just the way business is done now that's just the way corporations work now well that sucks and that makes you a person if that's your answer so you should come up with a better answer than that absolutely agree fully wow yeah i mean he hits the nail on the head i mean we've all

seen that that chart of how the cost of living the cost of everything has gone up and yet the only thing that has not gone up with it is wages. Right. The minimum wage at this point should be if it's going to be comparable to everything, how it was when our parents were our age, the minimum wage should be upwards of like 40 bucks an hour or something like that. It's just so nice seeing him actually call him out. You know, I mean, you have fucking Bob Iger sitting in Sun Valley, Idaho going,

they're just being unrealistic. It's like, what is unrealistic? The only thing that's unrealistic is the way that you guys have structured this. entire thing where you can sit there and make i mean and what value does he really bring you know what i mean you have these people i'll tell you what these these these beloved people who people go to movies to watch yeah no one knows who the fuck bob iger is no one gives a fuck who he is he is you have to give to him he's a very hot older man he is a good looking older man i mean let's fucking no bob iger yeah yeah he's a good looking guy i guess

he does he looks like he kind of looks like a bond villain um but it's making 400 times your lowest worker is is quite a i mean jesus that's he's got a great point and i think that this will make for an interesting catalyst for i hope it makes for an for the perfect catalyst to open up a broader national dialogue on this exact kind of thing, where even though all the data points to the economy being strong and friend of the show, Kyla Scanlan points out that the vibes are actually pretty good out there, I agree with that, but I also know firsthand that so many people from my small pool of knowing so many people are still paycheck to paycheck.

And it's because of this kind of disparity between, yeah, the wealthy people and the people on the lowest rung of the totem pole or the latter. Did you watch, have you seen Ron Perlman? No. Okay, so his is, I don't know, I don't know how I felt about this one. Like the Sean Gunn stuff, it's like, this is great. You're capturing people's attention. You're giving them, you know, it's like every actor has become radicalized and they've got good information. They're hitting you with the stats.

And then, so this is in response to the, the deadline article we were reading earlier about them wanting to wait until, basically, until, yeah, writers were desperate and they would just kind of take anything. And so this was, this was Ron Perlman's response, which I don't know how useful this is, but I'm guessing it's violence. Guys, let's say. One thing before I get off this, the motherfucker who said we're going to keep this thing going until people start losing. losing their houses and their apartments. Listen to me, motherfucker. There's a lot of ways to lose your house. Some of it is financial.

Some of it is karma. And some of it is just figuring out who the fuck said that. And we know who said that. And where he fucking lives. There's a lot of ways to lose your house. You wish that on people. You wish that families starve while you're of making 27

fucking million dollars a year for creating nothing be careful motherfucker be really careful because that's the kind of shit that stir shit up oof

again it's like are you saying like are you telling people he did he did respond and be like I'm not trying to tell anyone to fucking go find someone's house and burn it down like

uh just don't fucking jeez i bet i bet the the the right wingers who are who really hate hollywood i bet their heads are kind of trying to wrap themselves around how to who decide with because they love to hate actors you hate the liberal pussy yeah actor yeah but you like the billionaire CEO yeah well because they're probably just not even going to chime in on this they're probably celebrating the fact that there's no there's no content coming out that's going to indoctrinate their children

and contribute to the global cabal of adrenachrome farming. Yeah, you know who has been chiming in? Who? Have you been watching John Cusack? Oh, no. He's been going absolutely nuts. He's been like piggybacking off people's tweets

and just like, you know, when David Simon tweeted the thing about it needing to collapse, he was like, yeah, the old way of fucking people over as a business model will collapse. How about just stop stealing and cheating and fucking people over, pay them living wages and residual stop lying about losing money that's this that's the shit that

will collapse and then he i don't know who this lady was but it was one of the john oh no it's a guy john bear but i guess he still calls him a cunt so because who calls him john cusack calls him a yeah because he's you know john cusack's talking about how thank you john cusack thank you john cusac John Cusack about how, you know, we need to put an end to all this stuff. And he's calling him out for being, you know, so what are you rich American socialists going to pool your money together with American middle class and poor socialist? So what are you rich? And then he just goes, you stupid dumb cunt, you absolute fool. Dem socialism is FDR, the new deal.

You ever heard of it? You moronic ghoul. You mental oyster. Mental oyster? What is that even supposed to mean? I don't know. I like it. I like it, too.

You fucking stupid. We did band together for the GI Bill, the interstate highways, for workers' rights, clean water, social security. Every right you have, you dumb fucking Gallum. All right. He was holding a boombox over. He was had the entire time he said this. You mental oyster?

I'm going to start using mental oyster. I really like that. You moronic ghoul. Speaking of movies, Barbie comes out next week, and I saw this great headline. Ted Cruz is upset about it because, of course, Ted Cruz only gives a shit. about culture war bullshit, but apparently he said that there's Chinese communist propaganda in the Barbie movie. Does he say what it is?

Yes. So there's a scene in Barbie where there's a map of the world. This is a direct quote from Senator Ted Cruz about the Barbie movie. Oh, wait, but I think it's not coming out in certain places like Vietnam, I think, because of... Because there is, quote, there's a scene in Barbie where there is this map of the world and it's drawn like with crayon. I mean, it's really a very simple cartoon. And so they have this blockish thing that is called Asia. And then they've drawn what are called the nine dashes. This is Chinese communist propaganda in which the Chinese are asserting sovereignty over the entirety of the

South China Sea. And they don't have any right to it under international law, but they're trying to take it away from their neighbors there. But doesn't say Asia, not China? I guess. But it goes on to say that the nine dash line shows China's territorial claims over much of the South China Sea, in which the permanent court of arbitration at the Hague ruled to be in violation of international law, but that hasn't stopped the nation from building 20 outposts and parcel islands in conducting naval operations in the area. The Barbie movie shows what a spokesperson for Warner Brothers described as a, quote, map in Barbie land is a childlike crayon drawing, which caused claimant nations like Vietnam and the Philippines to ban

the movie or ask the film's distributor to blur the lines on that map. And then the Warner Brothers guy says, The Doodles depict Barbie's make-believe journey from Barbie land to the real world. It was not intended to make any type of statement. If you ask me, it's fucking insane. Ted Cruz is a real mental oyster. Yeah, he's a total mental oyster. Jesus Christ, these fucking people, man.

Should we talk about UPS striking? Yeah, so that's the other big thing. That's the other big strike that's looming that nobody's talking about because they're distracting us with the Barbie movie, South China scene nine dash line on the crayon map. And it's a very, you know, it's a similar thing, right? Demanding better. So this is 340,000 UPS workers. A large majority of them are represented by the Teamsters. They are demanding better pay, more full-time work.

And that's important. So I think over half their workforce or just about half their workforce, or just about half their workforce is part-timers, better job security, and an end to the two-tier 22.4 job classification. It's where it creates lower paid tier of workers who basically do the same work, but worse pay. And apparently UPS and the Teamsters came together, got pretty far there. This was according to the Teamsters president, Sean O'Brien, who's like a perfect guy, just like a bald guy from Boston. I feel like... That's exactly who I think of when I think of a Teamster.

If you don't have like a... If you don't have like a Boston or New Jersey or New York accent, you shouldn't be allowed to represent a union. God, Fran Dresher and Sean O'Brien. What, fucking, getting imagined them together? Just, I don't know. Yeah, it says a sticking point in negotiations is pay increases for part-time workers who account for roughly half the UPS workforce, like you said, and tenured part-time.

What the fuck? How can you be a tenured part-timer? It's a great question. Yeah, they're particularly frustrated because, they make just slightly more than new hires whose wages have jumped in a tight labor market. But so this is a big deal because it could very well, if it, if it, if it could, UPS is again, kind of like these streamers, they're in it, or these networks and shit, they're in a position where they've got to choose the lesser of two evils. Because the longer this goes on.

Oh, people are just going to jump ship. They're going to, they're going to FedEx. They'll go to, they'll use whatever they have to do. HL. This is, this happens. to them, it was, I think 1998, there was another, there was another strike and they, it was devastating for them. This is not, they don't want to go on strike, but they seem perfectly happy with it. Also, I just want to get this out before

we forget about it. I mean, so they're also talking about, they want an end to excessive overtime, better protections against company harassment because they're literally talking about how they'll be followed by supervisors and stuff being like, you know, watching them take too long of breaks, doing all this fucking bullshit.

that the elimination of driver-facing cameras, them being watched and told they're not working hard enough. And then protection from hot weather. I'm sure you guys saw all the stories about UPS drivers passing out. And there was one man, 24-year-old Esteban Chavez died due to extreme heat. So they're trying to get AC in these trucks. And, I mean, it's only getting hotter. It's, you know, it's weird all around the world.

there's it's like a worldwide heat wave uh well it's not real it's a fake liberal propaganda but but yeah and it's the same thing you know they're playing the same story as as with the you know the media stuff with the hollywood strike right it's they're talking about it was it was hard finding all this information it was like when you google it's just it's like how much the uPS strike could cost the country yeah we're talking about you know one of the costliest in at least the century topping $7 billion for a 10-day work stoppage, right? And it's like, you're not going to be able to get your Amazon package. You're not could be able to get anything you fucking need. These greedy teamsters. Yeah. A strike could delay millions of daily

deliveries, including Amazon orders, electronic components, and life-saving prescription drugs, which is certainly true. They added that this could also reignite supply chain snarls that stoked inflation. Right. Or that stoke inflation. We're just finding our way out of it. Do you really want the Teamsters to push us back into it? I mean, that's not the vibe that I get from this Reuters article. This is more, I mean, that is certainly true that that could. Yeah, but it's always talking about like if the Teamsters decide to do this. Oh, instead of if the company decides. Why doesn't UPS decide to do the right thing? Yeah. Sure. Why don't, why doesn't UPS decide to, you know, share in the profits that is only possible because of. Yeah. Oh, boy.

And then the Teamsters president said that he asked the White House not to intervene. Which I love you know why because they would why what they probably wouldn't allow it to happen remember what happened with the fucking railroad strikers yeah it's it's the same fucking thing it's like dude please don't i mean he had a great this is why you need this is why you need uh union presidents from you know the northeast he said my neighborhood where i grew up in boston two people had a disagreement and you had nothing to do with it you just kept walking we don't need anybody getting involved in this fight You just keep walking.

Well, the good news is that big banks are reporting blowout earnings. So at least that's happening. At least they're making good money. Right. Would someone think of the banks? They're not going to have that issue. Well, I guess we're just about wrapped up with the main episode. No, no, no.

We should go longer. It's 57 minutes. I know, but we can go. We don't have to wrap it up before. No, I know. I'm just saying I was going to get ready to tease what we're going to talk about in after hours. the worst video that we've seen in a long time

the absolute worst thing I've seen in probably over a year don't you want to talk yeah no but I'm just getting I'm just teasing it and we'll continue I've got something I want to talk about Janet Yellenate got fucking high on mushrooms on accident but I am just teasing

for patreon.com slash paypigspod it's yeah it's the worst fucking video I've seen in a long time. And we are going to do a movie night soon where I'm going to watch Monsters Inc. for the first time. I'll probably get high and watch it too because why not.

But you're going to get high and watch it? Yeah, of course. Shut up. Can't scare me. So Janet Yellen, the teeny tiny treasury secretary, 76, consumed four servings of... I also don't buy... Whatever.

I don't buy this. I buy it because... Yeah, it is a bit of a sensationalist kind of headline. I mean, it's literally, okay, but go ahead. Tell them what it. Yeah. Ching, a type of wild mushroom at a casual restaurant in Beijing shortly after her arrival on June 6th.

The media coverage was quite enthusiastic and even praised her chopstick skills. However, these particular mushrooms are notorious in their native province of Yunnan for their unpredictable psychedelic effects. So apparently if you consume them, it sounds to me like puffer fish kind of thing where, hey, you might get poisoned. You might have a trippy thing. I don't, I think she was completely fine. Yeah, well, she did like bow a couple times.

Yeah, she did some weird bowing, but she's also... I would also do a weird bow. I would be like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Yeah. Also, they... Aren't you supposed to bow in Japan, not China? Or do you do both? I'm not familiar with the...

I would be so nervous using chopsticks. I can't believe they commented on her chopsticks. You'd mean, you don't know how to use chopsticks? Well, I didn't say that. Okay. Why would you be nervous? Why would you be nervous? Because they're all so much better.

They could just... Would you be nervous using a fork in a... Go ahead. Italian restaurant? Oh, yeah, the most Italian. I will say, I've noticed some people who have poor knife and fork skills. There is a proper way to, like, cut a steak or cut meat with your fork and knife. So many people will take their fork and just hold it like a fucking brute and just like that and then cut.

No, no, no. You take it overhand and, man, the audio listener's just fucked. you you know the videos listeners fuck too you poke it you poke it like they know to use a fork and knife not everybody they'd be grabbing it like the wrong way like i said just holding it and smashing it down and then just cutting like that that this looks barbaric for the record the man who didn't know how to wipe his ass until 25 is not i knew what i was doing i was standing up is now telling you how to use a fork and knife how to use fork and knife we know how to do it there's not everybody yeah you see you see what these people

are doing here? Do you see this? Do you see this? Yeah, your, your, your point, you want to use your index fingers. When did you go to finishing school? I don't understand what I didn't. I just noticed these things. And yeah, some fucking people do it the brute way with their stupid, uh, it's really funny looking. It's really silly. Because you, you, I don't know. So I wouldn't be nervous in any way, because I know how to eat, except for I don't know how to use, like, I don't know how to use a spoon to eat spaghetti. But I wouldn't be nervous about it. I just be like, I, you know what they're going to judge me someone come teach me have the waiter come over and show me feed me like a baby i i would i will say i'm not i'm not super adept at chop sex i'm fine i'm fine

with them i can get by with sushi big thing to pick it up yes i will say i went i was on a date last night at a japanese restaurant and it was like with noodles no it was like everything that came out like literally salads and i'm like yeah that's totally stupid and impractical literally every piece of lettuce it's like please and I remember standing up and there was like just pieces of lettuce on the floor. Although a baby tomato, an uncut baby tomato with a fork, that's just asking for trouble. It's either going to fly off or just skeet, skeet all over your face and your shirt. Sure, sure, sure.

Yeah. I do like chopsticks, though. You like them. Yeah, but not for eating everything. Yeah, when they give it to me, yeah, just noodles. Get the fuck out of here. Give me a fork. You know what the restaurant changed?

she went to though right you know what it was called jenny ellen yes what was it called well it was called well i don't know how you say it no try it come on come nobody's listening yijua yi yi joali yi ji jolly yi jui okay okay the name means in and out huh that's where she got her mushrooms in and out that's not the best oh wait maybe that's a different place you just went to I like that she got four fucking servings of these mushrooms. I don't blame her. They look good as hell. Yeah, but to get four servings, that's so much.

Maybe she knew. It's like, maybe there were tiny things. Yeah, but still, I do like the idea of her tripping out and being like, oh, China's great. What was she doing there? Do we even know, or are we more focused on her eating psychedelic mushrooms? This is where, yeah, I'm getting pissed off at the media doing this kind of thing. You got to deflect somehow.

You got to get the pressure off the White House because they just, A bunch of cocaine just turned up at the White House. You got to send Janet Yell to do some funky mushrooms. I don't understand who gives a flying fuck. About cocaine? Yeah, did someone brought in cocaine? That seems like a thing to give a flying fuck about. Yeah, but wasn't it just a guest, like someone who was there on a tour just left their cocaine?

So what? Wasn't that what it was? Or was it someone, ooh, one of the staff? I still stand by it. That's something to maybe give a flying fuck about. Okay, but was it someone in the staff? They don't know who, but they can't figure it out. Whose cocaine it was?

Yeah. Was it a lot of cocaine? I don't know. I would imagine it was Hunter Biden's. Actually, yeah. I mean, how often does he go to the damn White House? If it was crack, we would all know. Right.

I wish it was crack. That would be way funnier. And then they could just be like he forgot his crack. Yeah. Oops. You forgot your crack, sir. I forgot my crack. Okay, well, I guess.

Look, guys. Guys, if you, oh, you know, we also forgot to, there's, well, who knows if they'll even be available by them, but there's like 10 tickets left to. Oh, for the LA show? The LA show. And we'll put the link in here if you want to do that. Yeah, stupid bitch. And if not, they'll be gone.

Yeah, they'll be gone. And then you'll cry and be like, well, I did see that it was on sale. We've only been tweeting about it and fucking putting it on Instagram for, what? What's the funny? Who was that? I don't know. some guy who didn't get tickets. That's our biggest fan. I didn't see what was all I was saying.

I didn't know. Gang, gang. Man, this Diet Coke is not hitting today. I feel weird today. I feel like I'm in a weird position today. Is it the light? You feel a bit like... Slouched?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there he is. Ben's back. I don't know. I feel odd today. It's okay. I feel creaky.

Well, I guess that'll, that should do it. And then we'll just roll into the bonus episode where we're going to talk about the worst video i've ever seen in the last year it's fucking terrible i can't wait to watch it okay we'll see you in there bye bye