The Ben Mulroney Show - Ben speaks with Pierre Poilievre about how to unlock Canada's potential

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Ben speaks with Pierre Poilievre about how to unlock Canada's potential Guest: Pierre Poilievre, Leader of the Official Opposition and Conservative Party of Canada If you enjoyed the podcast, tell a friend! For more of the Ben Mulroney Show, subscribe to the podcast! https://globalnews.ca/national/program/the-ben-mulroney-show Follow Ben on Twitter/X at https://x.com/BenMulroney Enjoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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an immediate election. Please welcome to the show again Pierre Poliev, the leader of the opposition and Conservative Party of Canada, Mr. Poliev, welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. Thank you. Great to be with you, Mr. Mulroney. So you've said before that when you form government, if and when you form government, you believe that the finances of that you'll uncover that the finances of the country are even worse than you thought. But when but when you factor Donald Trump into it, do you think you'll also inherit a trade war and 25% tariffs?

Oh, my goodness. You're trying to discourage me from this job. Are you trying to discourage me from this job? It is going to be a mess. Just like your father inherited a mess from the first Trudeau, I'm going to inherit a mess from this Trudeau. He's doubled the debt. He's doubled the size and cost of the federal government. He's pushed a half trillion dollars net of investment out of Canada into the United States. He's driven up poverty and food bank use, doubled housing costs, like it is an absolute

and total mess. Everything is out of control. And that's why we need that acts the tax election as soon as possible, that we can fire this costly and incompetent government and replace it with a common sense conservative government that will bring home the promise of Canada, that anyone who works hard gets a great paycheck and pension that buys them affordable food and homes and safe neighborhoods. And that's what I'm going to bring home as Prime Minister.

But you can't have an axe to tax election if everybody on the other side is now renouncing the carbon tax. That's if you believe them. Yeah. Look, Mr. Mulrooney, up until a week ago, all of them were not only supporting the carbon tax, but enthusiastically raising its level. Chrystia Freeland, Carbon Tax Chrystia, was the finance minister who raised the carbon tax by 167% and then went on to brag that she had done it in the middle of an inflation crisis.

Carbon Tax Carney is not only the economic advisor to Justin Trudeau, but he said his criticism of the tax is that it's not high enough. And yesterday he got the endorsement of the crazy carbon tax minister, the biggest loon in the liberal government. This is Stephen Gilbo, a guy who got arrested for scaling the CN tower and climbing on the roof of the Alberta Premier's home to protest against our energy sector. This guy said he would resign from the Liberals if they ever got rid of the carbon tax. So that means he must have a secret promise from Carbon Tax Carney that what they'll

do is they'll suspend the tax until the election. And then if, forbid they win, they will not only bring it back, but they will hike it higher than ever before. So let's not anybody be fooled here. If these guys, these lying liberals get back in, not only will you pay a carbon tax, but it will be higher than ever before. Yesterday on the show, we spoke with Alberta premier Danielle Smith, who laid out her vision of what, what we could get out of this challenge with Donald Trump. She posited that it's actually an opportunity

for us to finally have a real honest to goodness conversation as a nation about how we can develop our natural resources, how we can work together to break down inter-provincial trade barriers, and how it's an opportunity for provinces to actually help each other out to get these markets, to get these goods to market in a way that we never have before. And I think a lot of people were quite impressed with the vision that she laid out.

You've been beating this drum for a while. You've been talking about interprovincial trade barriers for years. You've been talking about building pipelines for years. Are you sensing satisfaction that more people are willing to have this conversation now or are you frustrated? Yeah, well, a bit of both. But you know, I'm in Quebec right now, for example, they, they, Trudeau and the liberals just killed the LNG Quebec project, which would have shipped Western Canadian energy to the Saguenay, which where which would have been liquefied and then sent off to Europe. But that got blocked by the hardline anti-development liberal extremists,

just like they blocked LNG plants in Newfoundland and British Columbia. They blocked two pipelines. land and British Columbia, they blocked two pipelines. You know, it's funny, these people who want to kill these energy projects, they're also, they also claim to be critics of Donald Trump, but they keep giving him our energy at a discount. You know, natural gas trades for $4 per million metric British thermal units. It trades for $13 in Europe. You can buy something for $4 and sell it for 13 and do that billions of times. You're gonna make a lot of money,

but you gotta be able to get it there. We don't have a single operating liquefaction terminal to export our gas overseas. We give all of it, 100% of our natural gas exports go to the Americans. They liquefy, they profit from it, just like our oil. If we want to go around the Americans, we need pipelines and LNG plants, and I will enthusiastically permit them when the private sector steps up to build them. But if the activists that have been empowered by this government for years with

quote unquote meaningful consultation, if they stand up and try to do something when the private sector steps up to build them. But if the activists that have been empowered by this government for years with quote unquote meaningful consultation, if they stand up and try to block these things, how far are you willing to go? Is the notwithstanding clause on the table? Well, that wouldn't, legally the notwithstanding clause would have no use in this case because it doesn't apply

to the duty to consult. So what I would say is the judges should interpret the duty to consult as it was meant, which is we will consult, but we're not gonna have unanimous support. Like I'll give you an example. When Trudeau killed the Northern Gateway pipeline, the majority of First Nations groups

along the path supported it. Yet he killed it against the will of the First Nations people. He killed the tech frontier mine, even though all 20 First Nations communities around the mine were on site. So what I'm finding is the First Nations actually want to develop these things. It's the radical activists that use First Nations communities against themselves. And I'm going to be standing up to those radical activists and I'm going to be building a coalition with indigenous groups who desperately want to develop to end poverty on reserve and in treaty lands.

And I'm also going to allow corporations to pay a share of their federal tax to the local First Nations as an incentive for them to say yes and benefit from the massive wealth we will generate. Mr. Poliev, you're a busy man. I appreciate you taking time to talk to our listeners on the Ben Mulroney show. Thank you so much. It's great to be with you. Many blessings. Home Network is here. I love it. Discover the best shows and your favorite trusted experts all under one roof. Are you kidding me? Every Thursday, watch heartwarming programs like an all new Extreme Makeover Home Edition at 8. Home Network!

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