The Ben Mulroney Show - Ben speaks with Pierre Poilievre about Mark Carney's lack of transparency

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

Guests and Topics: Guest: Pierre Poilievre, Leader of the Official Opposition and Conservative Party of Canada If you enjoyed the podcast, tell a friend! For more of the Ben Mulroney Show, subscribe to the podcast! https://globalnews.ca/national/program/the-ben-mulroney-show Follow Ben on Twitter/X at https://x.com/BenMulroney Enjoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And one of the people who hopes to one day be our prime minister joins us now. Please welcome to the show the leader of the official opposition, Pierre Poliev. We're going to talk to him about a plan that he brought forward today to force party leadership candidates to disclose financial holdings within a month of declaring their candidacy. This is with the backdrop of Mark Carney, who is an exceptionally influential person who has built up a storied career as a central banker, as a board member to some of the biggest companies that wield enormous influence on world markets, on job markets. And yet, because he is not technically an elected official, he is not subject to the

disclosure rules that apply to everyone else. This is not just an issue that politicians have had a problem with. The Globe and Mail's Bob Fife has been particularly frustrated at the lack of transparency from Mark Carney. Why don't you sorry about the delay there. That's all right, that's all right. So I gave the listeners the the lay of the land in terms of Mark Carney and his lack of transparency right now. I contended listeners the lay of the land in terms of Mark Carney and his lack of transparency right now.

I contended that the rule is written in the spirit of openness and transparency, and it wasn't written so that somebody who doesn't necessarily fall into the category can skirt the rules that everybody else is beholden to. And you want to change that moving forward. So here's why this matters. Let's suppose for a second that your Prime Minister has a financial interest that is opposite to your interest. Then he's not working for you, he's working against you. That's why we have a conflict of interest law that requires or is meant to require ministers and prime ministers to first divulge to the public what they owned and second if there are any conflicts to

sell it immediately. But Carney has found a loophole, very sneaky. He's got he's going to use the fact that he's not yet a Prime Minister, he's just a leadership candidate, to get into office and then he has 120 days before he has to either A, tell Canadians where his investments are or B, throw it into what's called a blind trust, which means nobody can look at it and his trustee can just keep him invested in all the same things that he has right now. Now, let's get this straight. He has invested in American businesses that Trump could manipulate to get concessions out of Carney on trade with Canada.

Imagine if Trump takes a look at all the millions of dollars that Carney has accumulated by moving jobs to the US from Canada and says, oh, I'm going to change this regulation, this tax, this government contract to advantage Carney if he gives concessions to America or punish him if he stands up for Canada. And that would effectively mean that Carney's interest would be against Canada's interest. So I'm saying he should divulge his interest and sell the holdings that put him in a conflict. Okay. Pierre, I want to move on because we don't have a lot of time. I want to know what you make of Justin Trudeau's 11th hour conversion.

He's been silent on the anti-Semitic protests that have gripped our country for so long, and only in the last few days before he's leaving office, does he finally have the bravery to call out this scourge that we've been enduring for a year and a half. And he calls himself proudly a Zionist. What do you make of this? Right. It's really something, the breadth of hypocrisy. Justin Trudeau has been unwilling

to stand up to anti-Semitism. He spread falsehoods and lies about Israel. He even regurgitated disproven Hamas propaganda, in one case saying that Israel had blown up a hospital in Gaza. In fact, it turned out that it was Hamas that had blown up the hospital. He never corrected that.

But now, at the 11th hour, he wants to be a hero. These liberals are looking for a fourth term in power after 10 years. They've allowed antisemitism, crime, inflation, and countless other scourges to run rampant. They want you to forget all about that with last minute sneaky tricks and reversals, but Canadians are not dumb. Like Carney Trudeau think they are. Canadians, I think, want a government that will stand up for them,

that will fight anti-Semitism, crime, inflation, and bring home the country that we knew and still love. It's been pretty clear to me that the issues that we've had with the United States thus far under Donald Trump have had very little to do with the border or fentanyl and far more to do with what JD Vance tweeted a few days ago. He said, if you move your business to America,

there are no tariffs. This feels to me like the battle that we have to gird for. What would a Poliev government do to fight for the businesses that we have here, for them to stay here, despite what feels like a, like a one- track mind by Donald Trump to get everything that would to hollow out our economy and bring all of our jobs south of the border.

We've got to bring it home. I've got to bring it home plan. So this is what it will look like. One, we're going to repeal the anti-energy, anti-resource laws like C-69. And I'm going to be granting fast permission to Canadian businesses who want to build pipelines, mines, liquefied natural gas terminals that ship overseas, not just to the states.

I'm going to cut red tape to give permission to businesses to build homes that our young people can afford. Second part of my Bring It Home Plan is a massive patriotic tax cut on work, investment, energy and home building. We're gonna take GST off new homes, we're gonna cut income taxes, we're gonna cut taxes on reinvestment in Canada so that we incentivize the half trillion dollars

liberals have already pushed south of the border to come back to Canada and employ our people making our economy sovereign, self-reliant and stand on our own two feet. Lastly, when do you think that the campaign is going to start in earnest? Do you think Mark Carney, once he assumes the leadership, is going to call a snap election or are we going to have to wait a while? No, he'll call a sneaky snap election or are we going to have to wait a while? No, he'll call us sneaky, sneaky snap election. He wants to hold the vote before Canadians get to know about his enormous

conflicts of interest before they realize that he's been Justin Trudeau's economic advisor for the last four or five years during which time housing costs doubled, food bank lineups doubled, the national debt doubled. And so we as common sense Conservatives have got to be ready and that's why I'm already talking about our bring-it-home plan for Canadians. Pierre Pauly, the leader of the official opposition and leader of the Conservative Party. We appreciate your time. Have a great weekend.

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