The Ben Mulroney Show - Canada proposes trade deal with Mexico, Mexico wonders why

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

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Oh, do tell. Yeah, I'm going to address it here to the nation and to those of you watching on social media and on YouTube. My baseball hat. My baseball hat has, well, it's a hot button issue across this country. What the heck is Ben Mulroney doing wearing a baseball hat? All right. I'm going to come clean. I ran out of hair gel.

I used a special kind of hair gel. I have for years. It was a trial and error sort of situation for quite some time. And I finally found the one thing that could tamp down on this person. snickety hair that does whatever the heck it wants on one day it'll do one thing the next day it'll go a completely different direction this stuff uh is magic and uh and i was i was running low and so i ordered some off of uh amazon and just to be safe i i've ordered two orders so each order had two bottles so i had four i was going to be set for a year and uh the guy

showed up on the predetermined day and he handed me a box which I opened and he left and then he knocked on the door again he says I'm sorry I've got a I'm gonna have to take that box back and I said I said why he said well because I just looked in my bag and there's another box here and it's the same it's the same box I said well yeah because I ordered two you can hand that to me right now he goes no I can't hand it to you this we don't have a we don't have a protocol for this and And I said, I ordered two. He said, I have to check with my supervisor.

So he's on the phone with the supervisor. And he said, yeah, the supervisor doesn't know what to do either. So I'm going to have to take these back and I'll come back tomorrow. And I said, look, I don't know much, but I do know that if I hand this box back to you, I will never see this again. I'm never going to say, no, no, I'll be back tomorrow. Now, I don't know for the life of me. I do not know why I handed the box back to him.

I had to tape it back up. I'd do his job for him. I taped it back up. I gave it to him. And I closed the door and I looked at my son, Brian, who was next to me at the time. And I said, we will never see that man again. We will never see that order. And then on my Amazon account, it said that it had been delivered.

I had to go through the entire dispute mechanism process to have the charges reversed. Anyway, all that to say, that was at the end of June or the beginning of July, and now I've been without hair gel. This will be resolved by Monday. I can promise you that. You will see a fully quaffed Ben Mulroney with that hair that you know and love and trust, and we'll be back to normal. But it's also summer, guys. And it's also, I'm not going to lie, I got into radio thinking I wouldn't have to worry about this stuff anymore. And then all of a sudden, I was told, oh, we're on YouTube.

I say super. Okay. Are you sure it's not because of the offensive logos on the front of the hat? It just says basic dad. You're basic, man. I'm basics. My friend's company, he started that. I'm a basic dad.

Anyway, so, yeah, Monday. You can expect fully quaffed Ben Mulroney. And hopefully we can put that controversy to rest. One controversy that we live every single day in this country is Donald Trump and his impact on our economy and on the future of any sort of bilateral trade with the United States. And we are, and also Mexico, you know, we are tethered to Mexico through the, through NAFTA, or now Kuzma or USMCA, whatever the heck you want to call it. I'm always going to call it NAFTA.

The changes to the deal are still the deal. It's NAFTA with whatever. That's just my own little thing. and here is Francois Philippe Champagne Minister of Trade I believe international trade Here's what he had to say

When he was meeting with Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum We probably have paid less attention That we have That we should When it comes to exploring The Mexican market

And that's what we're doing Really here It's really expanding the relationship Deepening these relationship Looking at opportunities on both sides And I think it's very welcome You know the Mexican government has been very kind to really make sure that we meet all the key players

here in Mexico, and I think that's going to be to the benefit of Canadian industries and Canadian workers. And so that's great. That's great. Except that's not reflected in the position of the president of Mexico. The Mexican president on Wednesday ruled out a bilateral trade agreement with Canada when asked about the possibility, following what she called a very good meeting with François-Philippe Champagne. She said, quote, we have a trade deal with the United States, Canada, and Mexico. There is no need.

She confirmed that Mark Carney will soon travel to Mexico for direct talks, but no date has been set. And Tuesday's meeting was a, quote, preparatory meeting for Prime Minister Carney's visit, and it was a very good meeting. She said an expansion of direct trade with Canada was among the topics discussed, but clarified. that it didn't mean a separate trade deal from Kuzma, USMCA. I mean, quote, there is a framework to strengthen the Mexico-Canada relationship as we're doing with other countries as well. And so to me, that's a very interesting, I mean, there's clearly a distinction in how both are viewing the status quo.

She's viewing the status quo as something that you build upon. and it looks like Canada in our frenzy to not only appear like we're seeking out new trade opportunities, but we're actually seeking at new trade opportunities. We are looking at it like we may have to have to have a separate deal with Mexico. And that reminds me of a story my dad told me a couple of times. He remembers that after they had signed the original free trade agreement, him, George Bush was going to then, was going to, was looking to do a free trade deal with Mexico, but just a bilateral free trade deal.

He won, and his administration's vision was to have free trade across the continent, but only in respect to America. America would be sort of that lever point, and all free trade deals would be between America and Mexico. America and Nicaragua. America and Brazil. And my dad and his government stood up and said, no, we need continental free trade and eventually moved them to that position, which is what gave birth to NAFTA. And so it's an interesting harkening back to those days where our current government has a deal with Mexico through Kuzma but now wants a separate deal. Yeah, how this is going to play out, I have no idea. But again, we're living

in a world where this government can do no wrong, certainly not in the eyes of a lot of people with microphones. So that we will have to wait and see on. Our government is not wrong, though, at any opportunity that we have to talk about trade with anyone other than Donald Trump, we should take that opportunity because he is not, he has demonstrated that he is, he is and probably will forever act in bad faith. He uses excuses to justify his behavior that are not tethered to reality. And so let's listen to Doug Ford on the bad faith nature of Donald Trump. It was positive, but it's very clear. You know, there's two countries in the world that have tariffs on the United States. One is China that want to economically and militarily,

eventually, you know, annihilate the U.S. economically, not militarily, but economically. And then there's Canada. That's been a member of the family for 200 years and have fought shoulder to shoulder with the United States, that their number one trading partner in the entire world, bar none, is Canada. We do $359 billion a year of products that we buy, not the way you trade, just the products we buy, $359 billion. To put it in perspective, that's more than Japan, China, Korea, UK, and France combined. All right, that's Captain Canada at his best leading with emotion.

But the fact is, those emotions are tethered to reality. Donald Trump is a bad faith actor. More to come on the Ben Mulroney show. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show, and thank you so much for joining us and helping us build this show into something we hope stands the test of time. I think as a kid, I remember going down to the Christmas tree

and seeing, you know, trying to gauge what boxes were what, what presents were what. And if anything looked like a safe, or Nintendo, well, then I would be, I'd make sure to be on my best behavior for the days leading up to Christmas. Well, now we're hearing that the prices of consoles are getting so astronomically out of control that if a parent buys their kid one of these consoles, that might be it for Christmas and their birthday and probably the next Christmas.

Joining me to talk about it is tech journalist Carmie Levy. Welcome to the show. Great to be with you, Ben. Thanks for having me. Okay, so how high is... How high are we talking here? We're talking potentially. I mean, right now, the Switch 2 is already a $630 unit without a bundle, $700 with a bundle if you bundle in a game.

This could be $800 or more by the time all is said and done. And this was already premium price. It was already almost 60% more than the switch that it replaced. And now it looks like it's going to go even higher. And not just the console itself, but also the accessories. seen price increases on the JoyCon controllers, the cases, you name it, any of the doodads that you sort of have to get throw into the bag when you first buy it, those are also becoming more dear for both the Switch and the Switch too. It's going to cost a lot more to get your gaming

fix on. How much of it is due to the economy, supply chain tariffs, and how much of it is them saying, Nintendo saying, you know, I think we got a tiger by the tail here. Let's see how far we can push this? I think tariffs are driving most of it. I think right now you're seeing technology companies across the board, not just in gaming, but for example, Apple wrestling with how much to charge for its devices, you know, to sort of try to accommodate the uncertainty that we're seeing being thrown into the supply chain. It's very difficult to figure out what it's going to cost you not only for it to assemble the device and sell it in a particular country, but also all the components that go into it when you think of, say, you know, what goes into a switch? How many, you know, chips and

batteries and components and all that go into it? Each one of those is made in probably a different country and then shipped to be assembled. That has a cost component as well. And so Nintendo, as the smallest of the gaming manufacturers, they have the most to lose. They're the most vulnerable. They've got to basically juice it or jack up their margins while during this uncertain time to ensure they can survive until things hopefully calm down. But, I mean, these numbers are not inconsequential. And we've been saying for years, and I've been saying on this show since its inception,

that we're living in a time where we have to choose between things we never have to choose before. We've got to pick between rent and putting gas in the car. We've got to figure out, are we going to pay for the kids' dentists now, or are we going to wait six months? And so in a world where people have to choose, Are they going to choose between a switch that does one thing very well, or are they going to invest in a new phone that does a million things, and one of those things is gaming?

Yeah, I think we're going to start to see kind of a shift between buying things that you want versus buying things that you need. And up until now, the switch was a pretty easy sale. The original switch was $400 when it was originally introduced. And so that was kind of, like, for some people, that could have been a mad money purchase. But once you start getting into the $700 or $800 range, that's not mad money anymore. That's major investment territory. And for a lot of people, that's enough for them to say, you know what? I've got to make rent this month.

I've got to focus on filling my fridge and affording groceries. And maybe my gaming thing, that can afford to wait a little bit. And so I think Nintendo is pushing the limit of what we're all willing to pay for games. And I think we're about to discover, you know, sort of where that limit lies. and at what point consumers are going to start to check out because, yeah, like everyone else, we've got to keep the lights on. As much as we like to play the games, we don't want to bankrupt ourselves in the process. But, Karmie, they're either going to push the limit and it's going to,

and everyone else is going to react accordingly, or if they're successful at pushing this to $800, for example, then what's to stop Xbox and PlayStation, who, you know, they're bigger players in the market, but their games are also more, they're geared towards, you know, more serious gamers, what's to stop them from doing the same thing? Okay, well, if they're at 800 now, then we've got to be at least at 1,500. In a word, nothing. And I kind of think Nintendo, as the first of the major platforms to start really playing with its prices and going public with them, I think they're almost like the canary

in the coal mine. They're the first in the industry. Everyone else is watching for their experience to see which way it goes. And if Nintendo succeeds, in other words, if they don't create, crash demand for switches and switch twos, then everyone else is going to follow. And so I think, you know, if you're in the gaming market and you have the budget and you were thinking of buying something, I think you'd want to buy it sooner rather than later because the only place that all prices for Microsoft, for Sony for everyone else are going is up. Yeah. Well, let's not forget

that the games themselves are becoming more and more expensive. But I think a lot of that can be understood when you realize how much, how much work, how labor-intensive those things are, how many years sometimes goes in to building one of those games. You've got to recoup your losses. And also, I got to say, just to throw a bone to the gaming companies here, you know, if you compare how many hours of entertainment you get out of, say, Grand Theft Auto versus how much money you spend and how little you get out of going to the movies, for example, then you realize it's actually a pretty good deal. Oh, it is. And let's face it, you know, the average game, I mean, some of the larger titles, their budgets are bigger than to produce a movie. And so, and gaming has become a bigger industry than movies and music combined. So, you know, we are putting our money there and we are getting great value out of it. But I think, and so no one's going to be getting rid of the games they already have, I think a lot, and I'm hearing from a lot of friends now who are saying, I don't buy as many games as I used to. I'm not upgrading my console. I'm sticking with my old sweep.

which, and I'm just going to pull up my old games that I've maybe already played, and I'm going to play them again, maybe find new ways to experience them. Yeah, no, that's a very good point. In my old age, I'm finding I used to be the guy who needed the newest technology the day it came out. I mean, I've been rocking the same iPhone for about two and a half years now, and it's so long as it doesn't steer me wrong, I'm doing just fine. And I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, in this world where the frustration sets in for people like me who wanted those new things. The easiest way to adapt is to find the path of least resistance and just say,

you know what, I don't want that thing anyway, I don't need that thing anyway. And I wouldn't be surprised if more people were adopting that. We're being forced to adapt and adopt that mindset. And maybe that's not such a bad thing. I mean, we've been on this sort of cycle for years that everyone expects to get a new phone every year or two. And the reality is, is you can get far more time out of a device. reason to do so other than the fact that, you know, your wireless vendor is telling you that

you need to. Yeah. Maybe this is a great way of breaking ourselves out of that consumerist cycle and recognizing that we have to be a little bit more sustainable when it comes to our technology. We'll save some money in the process, too. Well, I bet it's the, but for me, it's out of necessity. I just can't afford to keep up with how fast this stuff is coming out. Every time something new comes out, it's more expensive.

And that money that I invested a year before, it's now sitting in a drawer somewhere collecting dust. Carmie, we're going to leave it there. Thank you very much. Fingers crossed that come Christmas time. Kids who wanted a video game console will indeed get that video game console because ripping open that gift, I remember as a kid, it's a feeling like none other. Right on.

Fingers crossed for this year's Christmas season for sure. Thank you, my friend. I mean, I remember growing up and I remember I had the Intellivision growing up And then in the 90s, late 80s, early 90s, I got the Nintendo, I got the Sega as well. You had them all. Yeah, but the one I loved the most. I mean, my brothers played, that not a lot of people had was the Neo Geo. I don't remember that one.

It was released in 1990, and it was really big in Japan. But what made it, what people loved about it is it had arcade-style graphics, arcade quality graphics. The first gaming console to do that. And it didn't have like a regular controller. It had a giant one, the size of one that you would normally have at an arcade. It was incredible. And those, like we would spend hours playing those games. It was so much fun.

I freaking loved it. You think about the games nowadays and how realistic they are. Yeah. How just these massive worlds that they create. And then if you think back to those first video games that we used to play, how simple were they? I know. I know. I loved it.

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Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney's show. I love doing this show because I learn a lot. There are so many stories that I open my mind to all sorts of new expressions and new wonderful things in life. But sadly, I also learn about some negative things as well. And today we're going to talk about one of those things I'd never heard of before, and it might be new to you as well.

But all the more reason to turn up the radio and listen to this segment and this conversation. Wet brain syndrome. It's medically known as Wernicke-Korsikov syndrome. Serious brain disorder caused by a severe deficiency to thiamen, or thiamine, which is vitamin B1, which is often linked to chronic alcohol abuse. So to discuss this and to learn more about it, we're joined by Yona Budd, the Chorus Addiction Specialist and a Counseling Expert and Clinical Director of the Farm in Stoville.

Yonah, welcome back. Yonah, you there? Yeah, welcome. There he is. I'm here, buddy. Oh, good, good. Okay, so sometimes when an illness or an ailment has a name like wet brain, it sounds innocuous, but it's very, very serious. Yeah, I think, first of all, thanks for sharing this and letting people know about it.

You know, Winnick-Korzikov, if we were to share that with somebody, you wouldn't have a clue what it is. But in the face that I work in, you know, the world that I work in, when we talk amongst ourselves, therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists, caregivers and so on. You know, when we talk about wet brain, we understand that this is a early on-site dementia caused by excessive drinking over a long period of time. And even when someone quits, let's say, for a decade, it can still catch you later on in life. We're now finding more and more results as a result of using vitamin B1 to help counter it and so on. But people, excuse me, people don't understand the ramifications. Many people don't understand. And when I talk to people about wet brain, or I never heard of that.

Right. I have a friend of mine in a hospital, and I had to share it with his doctor and said, you know what, you're right. It might be that. And then they started treating him. And in fact, that's the right treatment for what he's got. So it's an early on site dementia. People don't understand it.

But when you say wet brain, it scares people. And I think that's the goal. That's the goal here. The goal is that I want to be able to, a lot of people to be nervous and concerned about the amount they drink and the impact is going to have later in life. even if they give it up. So the official name is Wernicke-Korsikov syndrome and the two stages of wet brain are broken up into Wernicke's encephalopathy and Korsikov's psychosis.

So break down those two stages for me. So the best I understand is the Korsikov psychosis is the actual manifestation of the disease itself and the Werniki portion. My understanding is that's the thiamine deficiency. which has the physical ramifications. So you get, you get two stages of it as it, as it ends up,

it's like a temporary condition. It's characterized by confusion. It's, you know, loss of muscular coordination, abnormal eye movements and so on. And then when you course, a psychosis kicks in, it becomes a chronic condition that,

you know, it significantly impairs. Right. Learning memory, ability to function normally. Sometimes it can be balanced, perception, depth perception and so on it can feel like a could feel a little bit like a like a burtigo

sometimes for folks they have that as well but it's just this this confusion both body and mind and it's fairly quick onset like you know this this fellow that I know this friend of mine I would say it's probably been coming on for the last six months no one really paid much attention to it because he's you know had been drinking a lot so it's just you know him being drunk sharing the same story over and over again until we all realized when he, you know, didn't answer the phone and wasn't, you know, wasn't coherent when someone showed up to his house. They was, in fact, in the psychotic state, getting him to the hospital probably saved his life.

But, you know, they come on pretty quick. There's not like you have a, it's not like the Wernicke sticks around for a while. And of course, the cop kicks in. It's kind of go together. They're very often, it's very often not separated as the two sides of the syndrome. So, Yona, the window to treat this must close very quickly. and, you know, early treatment with thiamine and stopping alcohol use can stop its progression. Do you know how that thymine is consumed? Is it an injection? Are they pills? How does it work?

Okay. So, for example, everyone I know now, since I've started dealing with this a couple of months ago with this friend of mine and others that I have in my practice, everyone I know I've sent out a message that everyone needs to start taking extra doses of vitamin B1 so if it says take two take four if you have a you know if you have a history of drinking start taking that and immediately stop drinking immediately but if someone is starting to feel those those those deficiencies early on pill form is you know the way that I take it the way lots of people take it when you're in hospital it's a constant drip yeah I asked the doctor a couple of

days ago when I was in a merge with my buddy's family. I said, you know, can you have too much D1? B1? And he said, no, there's no such thing. So they're just over, you know, overdosing them, so to speak, with lots of intravenous B1. That's what we do in chronic conditioning. But the trick right now is anyone who's listening to us that thinks that they may have a, you know, issue as related to, you're related to a period of time or current period of time in their life where they're consuming a lot of alcohol. That's considered more than three drinks a day. that, you know, they should now be taking vitamin B1 with everything that they do. Vitamin D is also a good vitamin to have, and you've got to quit drinking because the long-term

effects of ongoing drug use or alcohol use in this case, the ongoing effects are brutal. Well, and you know, it's sort of one of the many myriad sadness is associated with addiction and specifically alcohol addiction, which is that, you know, when somebody is perpetually under the influence of alcohol, it may mask a lot of scary underlying issues, including wet brain. I mean, you may not know that somebody is confused or has loss of coordination or eye movement issues because they're drunk all the time. And then, and so, and then again, that sadness gets compounded that you're missing

that really important red flag. and then with great help and luck and determination and people on your side, you get sober and you think that you've turned the page and you can now rebuild your life only to find out that you miss the window to treat a very real issue. Yeah, and by the way, just so we're clear, you know, the vitamin B1 regime and vitamin D regime is very good, but it has to go along with proper exercise, proper sleep, and proper nutrition. and as it's defined in medical terms.

So isolation is a horrible part of, you know, helps lead to this kind of stuff. Isolation leads to dementia, lots of people specifically, those that, you know, are locked down for long periods of time. But in this case, we want to make sure that our loved ones, and if you're listening and you're someone that's potentially dealing with this, you know, start, you know, get to the drugstore right now, get to wherever you get your vitamins right now, pick up some vitamin B1, take it right now, and make sure every day, that you're eating properly, three meals a day, that you're getting some exercise, that you're reaching out to loved ones, people that you want to talk to on a daily, go visit people and so on,

get the exercise and make sure you sleep. So those eating properly, sleeping properly in nutrition don't go together. They're not synonymous with someone who has a drug or alcohol issue, in this particular case, someone with alcohol use disorder. But those things together,

along with the vitamin regime, if you jump on it right now, you have a much better chance in later in life of not having this hit you in the face. And, you know, and that's, that's, again, I keep going back to the, the tragedy of it all, you know, I think I told you once that I saw a movie at Tiff, and it was about a functional, it was a functional alcoholic, she was a teacher, and she got sober, and the whole conceded the film was the hardest day for her in her entire life was the first day that she woke up sober, and she

was able to, to see the wreckage that was left behind because of her addiction. And you, One must, I have to imagine, one must need so much strength and conviction and a belief that the only way forward is through that difficult time to be sober for the first time only to realize that permanent damage has been done to one's brain. It's got to be so defeating. It's got to, and my heart goes out to them. So that's why Yon, I was so glad to have this conversation with you today. Because if there's one person listening who thinks that this might be an issue for them, all the more reason. And Yonabud, thank you very much for joining us. Thanks for having me in a bed.

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