The Ben Mulroney Show - Citizenship truth around massive crime bust / TO's Drug Toxicity Crisis Acknowledgement

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

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positive repercussions, needs to get talked about. Peel Regional Police, arrested 17 suspects in late 106 charges in connection with a violent extortion network that targeted South Asian businesses across Brampton, Mississauga, and Caledon. And by the way, this was not an investigation limited to the Peel Police. The FBI, CBSA, OPP, and Surrey Police all involved. The suspects are linked to 24 incidents involving threats, shootings, arsons. this could go on, but I'm going to say this.

This task, this group, this criminal network called the Four Brothers Gang. Love it that they got a name. The Four Brothers Gang was tied to about half of the illegal gunfire incidents in Peel region this year. So let me just, let's stick with that for a second. If you took this group off the board, violent gunfire in that area would be reduced by 50%. Okay. And they, this is, so this is not a small thing. This is a very big thing. And, and what's that? Oh, yeah. And the Peel Regional Police sort of said that all these guys were residents of Brampton. But Patrick Brown, the mayor, has a different take. Here's a case where all the alleged criminals are not even Canadian citizens, but they were acting with impunity in our region. if you think this can be replicated,

it's going to have the same result because we have the best of the best in the Peel Regional Police. And having CBSA here to send a very clear signal that this is not tolerated in Canada, I think is particularly helpful. Okay, and look, and we've seen this script.

I've read this script. I've watched this movie. I know what happens next. They're going to claim asylum. It happens every time. As certain as the sun rises in the morning, as certain as the tides. Some of these guys are going to claim asylum.

And next thing, you know, three more years, we got to deal with them. We've got to get to a point where the rule is. If you are not a Canadian citizen and you are plausibly accused of a crime, we kick your ass out. We kick your ass out. Sorry not sorry. You're not a Canadian citizen and you are responsible for half the illegal gunfire incidents in Peel region.

and that's targeting Canadian citizens. Goodbye. Goodbye. We send you back to where you came from. Or at least, at the very least, speed up the trials. Then you can be like, all right, let's determine whether or not you are guilty or not. Yeah, I'm getting to the point now where I don't blame you. I'm getting to that point, man.

I'm getting that point. That's what this situation has done to people like me. I'm not really concerned with due process anymore. I'm more concerned with the due process of the people who live here. the rights of Canadian citizens to live free of fear. Like, you've done this to me, Justin Trudeau. You've done this to me. You've taken somebody who wants to play by the rules.

And now I want to short circuit them for the people who don't play by them. Why should we play by the rules with you if you don't play by the rules with us? That's what you've gotten me. I'm now considering that. I don't want to be this guy, but you've made me this guy. This is your candidate, Justin. And you've turned me into that. Thank you very much.

So on that note, I'd like to invite into the conversation, our good friend from Integrity, T.O. The guy who, the watcher who watches those who should be watched. Please welcome Daniel Tate to the show. Thank you for being here, my friend. Hey, Ben. The Watcher. He's the Watcher. Who's watching The Watcher?

Yeah, you are. Me. Yeah. Well, are you surprised that Olivia Chow is running for re-election? She announced, it's the least, the most poorly guarded secret, but she announced. Yeah, worst kept secret. I mean, the way she's been frolicing and prancing at... TTC stations of the last few months with her little purple gang.

I mean, the writing was obviously on the wall, but now it's official. Well, let's listen to when she made it official. This morning, I registered to run for re-election, but that does not change what I do here as the mayor. So she's running for re-election, and she says that, as she announced sort of like some of the things she's going to hang her hat on, because as mayor, she can say she's got some wins. In three years, we've shown what's possible.

We are building more affordable and safer city by having school meals for children, by stopping or freezing the TDC Transit Fair, and by opening the library more hours, seven days a week. Daniel, I'm sure you've got some stuff to say about those wins. Yeah, first off, it sounds like she's struggling to even list off her achievements. Yeah. And frankly, in a city of our scale and scope, the fourth biggest city of North America, if you're going to platform or campaign on extended library hours, come on, we can do much, much better. Yeah, no, you're right. But hold on a second, though.

Remember that a dozen of those libraries are now attic treatment centers. Yeah. Yeah. Frontline treatment centers. Yeah. Well, her accomplishments are inability to get snow or ice off our roads and sidewalks, proliferation of needles, meth pipes across our parks and transit system.

Our transit system smelling bad with vagrants, homeless, drug addicts all over the place. But she froze the transit fare. Yeah. Right. No, but she only froze the 47th fair. Yeah.

Remember, you know her deal? It's the gimmick. You got to pay full fare on the 46. The 47th is free. Like back in the day, you know, you get 12 stamps and you get a free sub.

It starts paying for itself. No, you're absolutely right. after three years, you would expect, as the financial capital of the country, as the cultural capital, the country, you would expect, you know, as mayor, I witnessed the greatest influx of foreign investment. In partnership with the feds in the province, I helped usher in an economic revival, the likes of which the city has not seen. But that's not what she said.

She said she gave us breakfast for kids, which as far as I'm concerned is, is an acceptance of failure. You know, if we're living in a world where parents can't feed their kids and we're reliant on the city to do it, that's a, that's a failure. And the libraries and the subway. Okay. This is like lowered expectations here. If this is what our mayor has given us over the last three, three and a half years,

we can do better. You know, there's, there's a, anybody could do better. There's a guy running for mayor named Braden Chow. There's going to be two chows. There's going to be two chows. That could lead to confusion on the ballot. Is there a guy out there named Oliver Chow? Maybe he has political aspirations.

Oh my. Can you imagine that? That would be confusing. Yeah. Remember in Polyev's writing? They put like 180 like no name. No names on the ballot. Well, I mean, we'll have between 80 and 100 people on this ballot for sure because a lot of people run.

A lot of people run. Yeah. And most of them don't. don't register in terms of capturing people's opinion. But it does feel like there will be fewer people on the center, center right this time than last time. Yeah, right now it's just, it seems like a two-horse race. Yeah, more or less. We'll see if there's like a Cinderella candidate that comes out of the woodwork.

But right now, it's basically Brad versus Olivia. It's basically the status quo versus a new reality. And look, we're going to talk about, we got lots to talk. about on the other side of this break. You know, Bradford had a couple of pretty big endorsements with Lisa Raid and Senator Grafstein. So you had a liberal and a conservative coming out in favor of him, which is kind of what you need if you are a center, center-right candidate in this city.

Those are, I think, two big names that can help him. But when we come back, we got to talk about this drug toxicity crisis acknowledgement. I got to know what you know that we don't know yet, what you think about it. because this is this is some great A. Bologna, as Veronica Corningstone would say. Don't go anywhere. The Ben Mulroney show continues. So much to discuss with our good friend Daniel Tate. I like to say, you know, without him and without integrity T.O.

There's a whole bunch of stories that would just fly under the radar and the stuff that the progressive ideologues on City Council, it would just go on, they just do it, nobody would notice. And thank God for integrity T.O. because they are paying attention to this nonsense. Now, you'll remember months ago, counselor Chris Moyes. Got to call him counselor.

I'd be called a racist. Counselor Chris Moyes called, as he tends to do with people who push back on him, called Daniel Tate, a white supremacist, which he's done before, Dale. And racist. And racist. And he called you this while you were asking him a pretty good question, a fair question about what you could. Budget-related question. Yeah.

And he called you that. You brought this to the attention of the integrity commissioner, I think. and that person said that you know the back and forth the humming in the hall but the end result was yeah he was in the wrong and then the city

decided not to or city council decided not to punish him because why should there be accountability for city councilors for for slow they decided to reject the report they were yeah they didn't even read the road

they didn't even accept it and but however then he had the pesky problem of his legal bill which was like 30 some odd thousand dollars and the city decided to pay for half of it for his personal use of a lawyer because of course the city is there as his piggy bank. And all I have to say is, how dare you?

Yeah, I, I, you have stolen my dreams and my childhood. Yeah, exactly. That's what you've done. Like, come on, city council. You are the city council. The reason I love municipal politics is because it is the level of government that affects me the most in my day-to-day life. And if this is how they're affecting me, I feel like they're touching me inappropriately. I'm not lying.

City Council, I feel, oh yeah, no, I chose that. You're being abused. I am being abused. I think that the taxpayer is being abused. There is a level of molestation here. And yeah, no, I'm doing this deliberately to be uncomfortable. This, and Karen Stince, by the way, formerly of city council, I mean, she, she had something to say about this Chris Moyes legal fee nonsense.

For Rob Ford, there was like a. thousand little things that culminated into the gravy train that actually captured the public attention to say there is something really, really wrong with City Hall. And if they passed this bill, I really hope this becomes that mark, that line in the sand, where the public starts paying attention to what's going on down there, because there's something really wrong. And so Daniel Tate, so that happens. And, you know, a woman like Karen Stints, I think she's, you know, she's a centrist. She's a rational person. I think she's right on that. And then it feels like city hall, somebody at city hall said, you know what, we're not done. We're not done showing

Canadian, Torontoians, how untethered we are from the reality of their lives that you uncovered that on top of the land acknowledgement, on top of the African ancestral ancestral acknowledgement, they've added a third acknowledgement that is, just to show us that they are not living in our reality. Talk to me about the drug toxicity crisis acknowledgement. Yeah, so the drug toxicity crisis acknowledgement is the third mandatory acknowledgement that is to be recited at many city hall meetings now on top of the land acknowledgement in the African ancestral acknowledgement. And this acknowledgement is about not that we have a drug crisis, but we have a drug toxicity crisis. So, you know, pure cut fentanyl is fine.

But once it has, you know, paint thinner or trank in it, then we have a crisis. Yeah. And by the way, if you read the acknowledgement, the reason we have the drug toxicity crisis. Oh, yeah. Let me read that. So the city of Toronto acknowledges the tragic and substantial losses that people continue to face due to the ongoing drug toxicity crisis. These losses and the grief experience are immeasurable. We acknowledge that this crisis is rooted in systemic discrimination. People who use drugs often experience stigma with multiple intersecting forms of discrimination, including racism, sexism, and colonialism.

This is, I wish I could swear. There are so many words I would use. They always use intersecting. Yeah, no, but I wish I could swear right now. There's no white fent addicts outside right now at Queen and Bathurst or at, you know, Sherburn and Dundas. And it's colonialism. That's the reason. Daniel Tate, in your experience, how does something like this go from bad idea to bad execution?

Like, how does this become a thing? Well, because we have a culture of unbridled activism at City Hall that is tolerated and in fact promoted by city councilors, the mayor, and other top bureaucrats, and this is apparently allowed. And we're paying for it, us is the taxpayer. Read the last paragraph. We've got to do it. Many of us are mourning individually and collectively in this document we present. Data related to the crisis with respect to a heavy appreciation of what they mean and how they refer to our loved ones, friends, families, and colleagues.

Okay, but get to the point, the real thing that really stands out in this whole thing is that it's the ongoing drug toxicity crisis. It's not the drug crisis. But this reminds me of Karen Bass in L.A. who's in the fight of her life against Spencer Pratt, who's, you know. Go Spencer. Yeah, where she talks about how meth rots your teeth. And so what we really need to do is have free dental care for the meth addicts

so that they can then live their lives. So it's not, the problem isn't the meth. The problem is that the meth rots their teeth. And the problem here isn't the drugs. It's the toxicity in the drugs. It's the exact same. You forgot the part that meth rots your brain. Yeah.

You know, your cerebellum, your cerebral cortex. No, but yet, but that's what this is. This is an attempt to do an end run around logic so that, so that when ultimately people come, when they say, well, we're following the science. They're following the science of the drug toxicity crisis. They're preparing themselves. They're sowing confusion so that they can then win a fight based on misdirection and lies. the prevailing philosophy of people who sort of echo these sentiments is they believe in their heart of hearts

that drug use is fine and normal and drugs should be decriminalized and liberalized. And we shouldn't be prosecuting drug dealers or drug users, especially when they are doing terrible things. That is the prevailing mindset. And that's why they don't call it a drug crisis, even though that's what it is. They call it a drug toxicity crisis. Yeah. And then they blame colonialism.

and all these intersecting nonsense words. Why are we doing this in the first place? I forget the words. We need action. We need to get these people off the streets and into treatment and rehab and sometimes jail. It is increasingly clear to me. I'm talking directly to the voter who intends to stay home. When somebody comes and knocks on your door and says,

I want your vote in October, you need to ask them, where do you land on the drug toxicity crisis acknowledgement? Do you believe that this is a representative of the crisis on our streets? Or do you believe that it is bull? And if they tell you, no, no, that's the truth. Then with all due respect, that person should, that person immediately, in my opinion, disqualifies themselves from ever holding office. They shouldn't be elected dog catcher, let alone have power over your life and my life.

if this is how they see the problems on our streets, because this is them holding their hands, I'm saying, I'm not responsible. I don't have blood on my hands. The issue isn't drugs. The issue is drug toxicity. If anyone comes to your door and asks for your vote, ask them where they stand on this acknowledgement,

do they think it's bull, do they think it's BS, or do they think that it is representative of reality? That one question alone should determine whether they have your vote or not. Because that one question alone, the answer on that will determine, determine whether or not the war for the souls of our brothers and sisters who are grappling with drug addiction, whether or not we win it or not. This is, to me, it's black and white. I think this is absolutely an election issue. Every informed voter should be asking every

candidate who knocks on their door, asking for their vote, where do you stand on the drug crisis, where do you stand on harm reduction? And if they give you any answer that is reminiscent of the status quo, which is basically hand out, you know, more harm reduction, drug paraphernalia. Yeah. And, you know, the problem is just drug toxicity, not drugs. Don't vote for them. Yeah. Because we need a hardcore wholesale change.

Yeah. Otherwise, our streets and our parks and our transit system will continue to deteriorate. Daniel Tate, I have seen that there are three people running against Chris Moyes, and all three of them seem to be looking to not replace him, but recast him because they all seem to have similar views to him. Are you going to be running against him in a year? You're in his constituency. Are you Daniel Tate going to run against Chris Moyes? I haven't made a decision yet, but this ward needs new leadership.

That is, that's true words I've never been spoken. Yeah, I agree. Listen, one last thing before we take a break, and then you're going to stick around because we're going to take some calls. Sure. The next investigation, I think Integrity T.O. has got to look into is where did the money go that used to go into arresting these people, prosecuting these people, holding them in jail cells?

We don't spend that money anymore because these things are not crimes. where'd that money go? What are we spending that money on? Yeah, that's a great question. You know our police budget is $1.7 billion. $1.7 billion. And where is the money going? Think about how many crimes,

it used to be crimes are no longer crimes. So what are we doing with that money? That money went somewhere and it certainly didn't go into rehab for these people. That's my question. Yeah, I mean, I'm in full agreement. Look, I've seen two crimes already today. What used to be crimes.

Just on the way here, I saw somebody smoking meth right on the street. That's not a crime anymore. Well, that's my point. Well, maybe it should be. That's a Tuesday. Because, you know what? Like, if that person can get into the system, whether it's jail or whether a judge

says, you know what, if you're open to rehab, you won't go to jail. We'll send you to rehab. We can save a life that way. Yeah. Well, listen, yeah, there is, there is, there is, it's a war now. It is a cultural war between those who want to see, uh, these, people who are burdened by so much, they don't care if they live or die. They don't care.

I care. I know you care. A lot of us care. And this idea that it's a toxicity issue and not a drug issue, these people have blood on their hands and more people will die because of them. And that's really what's at stake here. And when I saw that drug, that acknowledgement, I realize, my goodness, they are trying to rewrite reality so that they can avoid responsibility.

And it's up to the voters in October to hold them to account for. the death and destruction and pain that has been caused on their watch and because of their decisions.