The Ben Mulroney Show - Did the NDP nominate an anti-semite for the Nobel Peace Prize?

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

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That's better help. H e l p dot com slash Mulrooney. No frills delivers get groceries delivered to your door from no frills with PC Express shop online and get fifteen dollars in PC Optimum Points on your first five orders. Shop now at NoFrails.ca. Welcome back. Welcome to the Ben Mulroney show on this Friday. My god, I'm bad at dates. Monday, July 14th, 2025. Thank you so much for being here today. We got to start this segment off with a little bit of a chuckle. You know, Canada is most definitely not the United States and it's not the

worst thing in the world for somebody to call you a liberal. And depending on my perspective, you would be, there are a lot of people who cast aspersions on me and call me many names and they roll, it's like water rolling off a duck's back. I'm Mulrooney, I've got the height of a rhino and it doesn't like, nothing affects me, nothing. I don't care what you call me, it's never gonna affect me. But this, here's a, I wanna give you a little bit

of a taste of a little girl in the United States who was just crestfallen because her father apparently called her something that you can't come back from. Let's listen to this poor young girl whose dad hurled a terrible epithet at her. What's wrong? What better. What's wrong? What? What? Are you serious? Come on. If that doesn't make you chuckle. I look like I said wouldn't happen here. If somebody called somebody a liberal, you just get over it. You move on. Someone calls you conservative. At least I've a lot of people think these are terrible things to call maple MAGA elbows up all that stuff. It doesn't hurt the same way as it is being called a Democrat hurt this girl

who couldn't have been more than seven or eight years old. But I want to kick it off with that. However, I want to talk for a moment about the NDP, federal NDP, having suffered their worst election loss in their history, having lost official party status. They're down to, I think, what, seven seats? Is that 11 seats? Whatever it is, it's not a lot. And they've got more issues than they know what to deal with.

And look, yes, the conservatives are at a crossroads. What do they do with Pierre Polia? They have an automatic leadership review that happens anytime they lose an election. But he's got a lot of good things going for him in terms of the raw numbers, the numbers, the number of people he brought into the conservative tent in terms of voters, the fact that so many of them were young, the fact that so many of them are, according to polls,

sticking with the party today, and the fact that a lot of those liberal voters, like let's just call them what they are, they're older, and some of them aren't going to make it to the next election, and it's three and a half years until the next election. There's a lot of reasons why sticking with Pierre Poliev and saying, you know what, we didn't win, but it's about tweaking what we've got,

not throwing the baby out with the bath water. That is an argument. I'm not saying it's what is going to come to pass, but it's an argument. The NDP, however, in my humble estimation, is somebody who is not on that side of the battle, didn't do what used to get them election success relative to the fact that they're not typically part

of the binary choice for government of conservative or liberal. They seem to be a one issue party right now focused entirely on issues on the other side of the world. And they seem to be more about outrage and performance than they are about satisfying a need in Canada to stand up for working Canadians. It's about, as someone says, it's about Gaza, not Guelph.

And so they are now facing a similar question, how do we pivot and how do we return to the days where people actually take us seriously as an electoral option? I don't know if they're listening though, because they are apparently, the NDP appalled that Donald Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

And so while others are focused on, conversations about policy here at home, they're going after a stunt of nominating sort of the antithesis of Donald Trump, Francesca Albanese, who is the special rapporteur for the UN on what's going on in the Middle East. She is a rabid, virulent, anti-Israel,

anti-Zionist, anti-Semite. She denied that the Hamas massacre was anti-Semitic, claiming that October 7th stemmed from Israel's oppression, not the hatred of Jews. So she victim blamed, she victim blamed the people who were subjected to the greatest attack on Jews since the Holocaust. She accused Israel of genocide in Gaza and likened the territory to a concentration camp. Not rude in fact.

She endorsed comparing Netanyahu to Hitler. That's what you want from people at the UN. You want a level-headed analysis like that. She endorsed comparing Netanyahu to Hitler. That's what you want from people at the UN. You want a level-headed analysis like that, calling the democratically elected prime minister of Israel Hitler. Sure, that makes a lot of sense.

She called for the boycott of Israel supporting companies and urged the International Criminal Court action against Israeli and US officials. That prompted, by the way, US sanctions. She's been sanctioned by the State Department because she's a Jew hater. She dismissed Israel's right to self-defense, saying Israel cannot claim self-defense

while illegally occupying Gaza. They left Gaza in the early 2000s. They left them to build themselves up, and they didn't build themselves up, they built themselves downward into tunnels that they've used to prosecute the most dehumanizing of wars. And she has shared anti-Semitic tropes

about a quote Jewish lobby controlling America. She's a troll. She's a troll who has been given license to say these things under the cover of the United Nations. She's not, she doesn't help anybody's cause. She certainly doesn't help the United Nations. But the NDP in Canada have decided this is a woman worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.

This is a problem. The NDP has an anti-Semitic problem. They do. Not to say that you can't have honest conversations about policies from the United Nations, about policies by Israel. This is a woman who is a cancer in the United Nations and she needs to be cut out like a tumor.

But instead the NDP have decided that they wanna play games, they wanna pull stun stunts and rather than look at the real problems as to why people have turned their back on the NDP they've decided to double down on this nonsense of being a of being a the spokespeople the spokespeople for Hamas in the in Canada and And I don't believe that this will help them in any ways. And not for nothing. But there's a great piece that was written on Substack by Fred DeLorey, who's a political commentator. And he is pointing to some real, real problems for the NDP on the horizon.

The fact is, they are millions of dollars short on paying back its national campaign loan. And there's no obvious way out. Fewer than 50 of the 343 candidates reached the 10% vote threshold needed to qualify for a campaign expense rebate from Elections Canada. This is financial ruin. Those rebates are worth several millions of dollars collectively.

And it's normally how the NDP repays its election loan no rebate means no repayment so here's the risk they spent their legal cap of about 35.8 millions of dollars the elections Canada cannot cut them slack on paying it back if the NDP does not repay its loan within three years under Canada's election act, the unpaid balance becomes a political contribution. And according to Fred DeLorey, here's where things go from bad to existential because banks can't legally contribute to political parties

and individuals are capped at contributing less than $2,000 a year. If the campaign loan isn't repaid back on time, elections Canada can declare it a political contribution and it's a financial time bomb. This isn't speculation according to him. It's spelled out in the act. And if they don't pay it back, they can be charged with a criminal offense. This is, this is, this is, this is written like this is black on white. This is where they're headed.

And if they cannot make themselves financially viable, they cannot earn the money to pay this back. This is a rigid system. It's one or the other. You either pay it back or you don't. If you don't pay it back, it can be viewed as a criminal charge. And apparently it gets worse.

I'd like to try to get Fred DeLorey on the show to lay this out. I've only had a chance to read this very quickly, but I urge you to go to Fred DeLorey's Substack to understand that this could go from terrible to worse for the NDP. But if they are a hell bent on not paying attention to the problems that they have,

you kind of get your lot in life. At some point, personal accountability has to count for something. And personal accountability can extend all the way to the leadership of the NDP. So, more to come on that. All right, speaking of more to come, there's more to come on the Ben Mulroney Show next.

Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney Show. And we're gonna talk politics now. We're gonna talk the politics of disclosure. And when somebody wants to be a politician, they have to disclose what their holdings are. Where are their investments? And one of the reasons we need to know that is because we need to know if they are exposed

to any sort of conflict of interest. Now, we've got laws on the books and we have rules and regulations that govern that behavior. But the case of Mark Carney was so unique, the fact that he had never run for anything before, that the system did not plan for somebody like that, meaning he had never disclosed

before, and because he was so new to politics, and because the election was almost immediately after he became the leader of the Liberal Party, we as a country, his disclosure was not made available to us because there is I believe 120 day window where all that stuff is kept a secret. And so while he did disclose, it wasn't information that we as voters

could use to determine whether or not he was the right guy for the job. So all we had to go with was his word. And during the election campaign, let's listen to the audio of Mark Carney being asked specifically about his holdings. I'm complying with the rules. I'm complying with the rules in advance. Look inside yourself, Rosemary.

I mean, you start from a, you start from a, a prior of conflict and ill will. I have served in the private sector. I have stood up for Canada. I have left my roles in the private sector at a time of crisis for our country, I'm complying with all the rules. Well, now we find out because the disclosure now is open for access to information. And our prime minister, in fact,

has over 100 conflicts of interest that he has to recuse himself from based on the stock and positions that he has in a number of companies. I don't know how he's going to do that. And also, if you're looking at his scorecard, he's got 563 total holdings of which 0.3% of them are positions in Canada, the rest are American and global companies. So that should tell you about where what he's bullish on.

So to discuss this, we are joined by a great friend of the show, Michelle Ferreri. She's a former member of parliament representing the writer of Peterborough, Kawartha from 2021 until her defeat in the 2025 federal election. Michelle, thanks so much for being here. Thanks, Ben, great to be here. So look, like yes, he was

complying with the letter of the law, but in no way can he look at us with a straight face and say he was complying with the spirit of the law. The spirit of the law was to give Canadians and voters all the information that they need about the people that they would be

putting their trust in by way of a vote. And we did not have that opportunity because he was so new to politics. The law did not take into account a scenario like Mark Carney. Correct. And you know, I think Ben,

the real crux of this situation is, listen, having investments, having assets, I don't think anybody has an issue with that. Absolutely not. The man comes from, you know, a long resume of accomplishments and he's going to have investments. He's going to have assets. The issue is, and people need to really, really look at this, is that he was point blank asked

by reporters, as you heard in that clip, do you have any conflicts of interest? And not only did he say no, he actually was so condescending, arrogant and rude to Rosemary Barton to say, look inside yourself. Yeah, yeah. And I think, so now your trust is completely eroded.

This is a guy that has not, um, presented a budget and he's doing exactly the same thing with taxpayer money that he did with his assets and he's being deceitful and it's not good leadership. It's going to cause major problems for the taxpayer because what's he going to do? What's he going to do with your money? If he can't even disclose his own? Well, Michelle, what's disconcerting to me and disappointing, like I didn't want to be right about that. I knew something was up. Like, I'm sorry, we we we deserve based on what what would the point of the laws are, and the fact that

we didn't know at a time where we all should have known, like, if you're not telling us, it's because you don't wanna be telling us. You could have disclosed everything and you didn't. But the fact that he was simultaneous, A, there are conflicts and he said there weren't, but B, the holdings themselves, there's nothing wrong with having a portfolio that's heavy on American stock.

Of course, a lot of people would, but you sir jumped into the fray by saying, I am here for Canada. I don't know how Canadians would have responded or how that information would have been weaponized against him if we knew this information during the campaign to know that of all the stocks that he has, and you don't hold a stock,

if like you hold stock you believe in, and the fact is of all the stocks out there, 0.3% of them were Canadian companies. I don't know how he could have said with a straight face. I am proud to be I'm bullish on Canada if if we knew this then. So to me, it's a two pronged failure because and I think it's because he knew that he couldn't sell the version of himself that he wanted to if we had been given this information. And given the fact that I think that every Canadian

needs to know as much as possible, transparency is key. This to me seems, I don't know, it's not something I feel I can get over. There are gonna be plenty of people, Michelle, who are going to twist themselves into a pretzel saying this is No big deal. Oh Yeah, I mean I've seen it online and you know, you see that and I think that's that's just it been like

Progress only happens as fast as trust is is there and You sir completely Eroded the trust of the. The public is fatigued. They are tired. This has been the worst, you know, 10 years between COVID and the economy. People are truly struggling. And Mark Carney sold them this rose colored glasses campaign

of I've got you and I'm such a great person and I'm here for you. I'm here for Canada first. I'm here, I've got my elbows up and I am going to take care of you. And he lied. He lied about all of those things. So now you have, again, we're back where we started. So now you're going to have erosion of trust. You can't get anything done. Nobody believes this guy nor should they to your point. If you care so much about Canada, sir, and you believe so much in our economy,

why are all your investments in assets with American companies? Well, look, I think the simplest answer here is it was a calculated risk by his team, right? They knew what was gonna be disclosed, and they knew that when this came out, we would be talking about it, but their hope was that he would be prime minister by then,

and he would have enough runway between the disappointment that some would feel in their trust being eroded and sort of ultimately the next election that he would get a lot enough wins that it wouldn't matter by then. But that to me is a very cynical calculation. And I don't think we need any more cynicism in politics. And unfortunately, it's been served up to us.

Like I'm smart enough to know that that's exactly what happened. Right? That's exactly what happened. I don't need to be an insider to know that that was the calculus behind closed doors. And they and they know, like, listen, you know, there's a great quote in the Ronald Reagan movie, and they say, it's the Soviets. And they say the one thing about North Americans is you can look them in the eye and tell them you're sorry and they'll forgive you. Yeah. And it's a weakness you know because Trudeau, Justin Trudeau was famous for this right oh I'm really sorry sorry she experienced it differently. Yeah. And they twist it but their sorry is never actually I'm sorry I did wrong I'll fix it. Yeah. Because you know what the big thing

that I think people need to think about here, Ben, is we are living in a world, and I witnessed it when I was in parliament, but for the past 10 years, things are going to be good. Mark Carney's going to get you a good deal. Mark Carney's going to fix the economy. Mark Carney's going to help Canada. We live in going to world,

but nothing that's actually happening under them because they don't achieve it. They sell people a fantasy island that doesn't exist and they string them along and they lie to get there. And it's just dreadful for the people because it divides families, it divides friendships, it divides so many people. And it's a terrible thing for our country because we are better together, but only together when you are honest and truthful and straightforward about your intentions. Well, Michelle, we're gonna leave it there.

I wanna thank you for the candid opinions. Tell me what you really think next time. Thanks so much. Come join us again anytime. And I wish you a great summer. Thanks, Ben. You too. isn't just a bold new vehicle on the road. It's Nissan's number one selling subcompact SUV. With expressive style and advanced tech, Kicks is number one.

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