The Ben Mulroney Show - Greta Thunberg has been kidnapped by Israel!! Oh wait... that may not be true.

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

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The whole way? The whole way. Welcome to the Ben Mulroney show. It's Friday, October 3rd. you for making it to the end of the week with us. It's been a heck of a week and we're going to close this show out, close this week out in style with information and with fun. Let's start with the information. All right. So the blockade of Gaza, the naval blockade of Gaza, it's been in place since 2007. It was put in place after Hamas took over the government of Gaza, and the

justification for it was they are terrorists, they are going to attack us, and we're not going to give them any ability to get arms via the Mediterranean. Pretty simple. But that doesn't mean food hasn't been getting in. That doesn't mean aid hasn't been getting it. in. And so when Greta Tunberg, everyone's fate, I guess the climate crisis is over. She's now focused on being a useful idiot for the Palestinian side. She has been part of the global Sumud Flotilla, right, attempting, claiming to attempt to deliver aid to Gaza. They want to break the blockade. 40 boats. We're going to break the blockade. Over 450 activists are part of this uh part of this charade and uh they were intercepted by israel 450 uh activists detained

including greta uh who appeared in a video surrounded by israeli soldiers my name is guvichumway i'm a citizen of sweden if you are watching this video i have been abducted and taken against my will by israeli forces our humanitarian mission was nonviolent and abiding by international law please tell my government to demand my and the other's immediate release. Ah, Greta. She's just captivating in everything she does. Captivating.

I can't not listen to her because she's so exciting. So listen, there was live footage of this entire thing, showing Israeli forces boarding the boats at night. The passengers wore life vests. They raised their hands. And they claim that they want to break the naval blockade and deliver food. medicine, right? That's what they claim. That's why they were doing it. These 40 boats. Well, why we listened to one member of the IDF, who was also, uh, had a message to deliver via

video. I'm sure you guys can guess where I am because it's pretty much an empty room. That's right. I'm inside one of the vessels, one of the largest vessels to come in this Yom Kippoo Flotilla. And while we're processing this boat, there's one thing missing, guys. All this aid that they were supposed to bring into Gaza, which explains one thing to me. I'm sure it explains to you that when we and multiple other countries offered them to take this aid and bring it to the Gazans, we could facilitate its safe arrival, they flat out rejected it. And now we know why, because it was never about bringing aid to Gazans, but it was all about the headlines and the social media followings. Yeah, of course, of course. And we all

remember when they claimed that a drone strike had been perpetrated by Israel. And it turns out it was just either a flare or somebody was having to smoking a cigarette. I mean, never let the truth get in the way of attacking Israel, because that's par for the course for Greta these days. And I mean, listen, in a couple of years of terrible, terrible stories, this one, this is a subplot that makes me chuckle. And I thank Greta Tunberg for providing us with a little levity during a time of very, very difficult news.

All right, yesterday, we told you about Canada's warship contracts that were buying some new boats. And Michael Byers, who co-directs the Outer Space Institute and he's a professor of international politics at the University of British Columbia, he wanted to signal that there could be a problem looming on the horizon as it relates to these boats that we were buying and it's going to take years for them to be built

because the fear is by the time they're ready, they will be obsolete. Here's Michael Byers in his own words. We're investing in Calvary when we can already see the development of the tank coming, right? And we're making... We made the decision on these large surface vessels more than 15 years ago,

and it was a wise decision at the time. But the Canadian bureaucracy, and I include the military in this, are so slow with their procurements that by the time these things are delivered, they're going to be more or less obsolete. All right. So that's the issue right there, right?

How slow it is for us to procure whatever we need for the military. It is, we move at glacier speed in this country. And so by the time something is ready, it rolls off the assembly line. In a lot of cases, it's lost its value. You know, yesterday Michael was telling us about how, with the advent of AI and drone technology, there are far more risks associated with these boats that anyone can build. Like these drones are, for $10,000, you could build a drone that could attack this boat. And so do we need this boat?

Very good point, very good question. But it's all about military procurement, right? And how slow it is, you heard Michael Byers say as much. Well, yesterday, Prime Minister Mark Carney launched the new defense investment agency, the DIA, and it is sort of an attempt to revolutionize our military procurement. It's supposed to cut red tape, speed up purchases, and give industry clearer direction. As a matter of fact, I will be speaking with the minister in charge on West Block this weekend. when after that announcement was made.

So we will have a wide range in conversation about military procurement and what the needs are for our military, both on air, land, and sea. Now, for context, Canada currently buys 70 to 75% of our military gear from the U.S. Actually, you know what? Before we do, let's go back to Michael Byers because he was so insightful yesterday. He was so insightful. And I tried to explain to you sort of this changing. landscape of asymmetrical warfare. He was much better at doing it. Let's listen to him.

Technologies have advanced, and not just the technologies for surface warships, but the technologies that can be deployed against them. And we're now into a world of small satellite-controlled motorboats with 350 kilograms of high explosives in the front, being used as kamikaze vessels, autonomous kamikaze vessels. We're going to be, in the next decade, almost certainly in the age of artificially intelligent, intelligence-driven long-range torpedoes that could be deployed in swarms against surface warships.

Yeah, so exactly. So it looks like Mark Carney is addressing that very problem with this new department and this new ability to speed up procurement. And it's not just that. It's about diversifying who we buy from. As I just said, we get about between 70 and 75% of our military gear from the Americans. And the new goal is to diversify suppliers, boosts Canadian industry, and link with Europe's $1.27 trillion rearm Europe plan.

Mark Carney says that this will strengthen defense, create jobs, and boost Canada's global role. The minister, Minister Fuhr, said it will reduce U.S. dependence and grow our Canada's defense sector. I think, listen, I'm pro all that stuff. However, critics have a different tact. The conservatives say it's just more bureaucracy and it won't fix the urgent delays. And the defense industry is cautious in their support. They're very cautious and they're saying they're worried that the agency may lack staff and resources. And look, we've seen that before.

I don't know anything about this. But when I hear them say, listen, the problem is going to be staffing and it's great to have an office. But unless you have the staff and the manpower and the ability, to do the things you say you're going to do, it could end up being just another one of those moments in Canadian political history where we make a big announcement and we don't follow through with what actually needs to be put on the table so that this new department can do what it's supposed to do.

Agreed? Agreed? I mean, that's always been the criticism of the liberal government over the years is that they come up with ideas, but they can't get out of their own way. Yeah, can't get out of their own way. Anyway, and just to put a little button on this, back in 2019, under Justin Trudeau, he promised this very same thing. So it took a while, but it's getting done. I'm hopeful.

To be honest, I am hopeful. But that Michael Byers interview was incredibly timely. Yeah. All right. Up next, I ran the table last week on is it BS or is it real. But I'm far too cocky to keep it going. Play along to what is becoming Fastly. Fastly?

Canada's favorite new game. Is that true? Or is that BS? We'll find out later. This is the Ben Mulroney show, and this is the moment in the show on Fridays where Ben Mulrooney shines. I shine, I say,

because it's time for, is it BS or is it real? And this is when my producer tries, tries as hard as he might to stump me on stories that he well he might fabricate him or he might find them and I have to decide whether what I'm hearing is real or not and we a few months ago we brought Dave Bradley in because we needed some gravitas brought into this

segment and last week I ran the table I was perfect in every aspect of my game perfect like I was You got to be perfect somewhere. I was like the, what, 1970-something dolphins, right? 72. 72 dolphins? I was perfect.

You're not perfect of remembering that. Perfection was what, and that's what I'm gunning for this week. Now, I got to warn you, we do have some saucy language, especially off the top. And so if you don't like the, if you don't like the four-letter words, then maybe you don't listen right now. Or maybe you do, and then you just, well, logic complaint in your mind. Not an actual one. All right, so let's, shall we start, guys? Let's start with. Is it BS or is it real?

See, now that's some bullshit. This is bullshit. Man, this is some bullshit. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth.

You are fake news. You are fake news. And you, Ben Mulroney, were perfect last week. It had never happened before, by the way. I think it's important to note. I've never, never run the table. It was a big, big moment. And so...

Why don't we get to today? Oh, I see. Okay, yeah. Okay, that's fair. Okay, Dave Bradley, over to you. In a bizarre twist in Colorado, a robbery suspect was arrested after casually strolling behind TV news crews covering his alleged crimes. Richard Appelquist was wanted in connection with multiple robberies and walked past CBS anchor Justin Adams as he was reporting live. The crew quickly alerted police within 10 minutes Applequist was taken into custody. authorities who had been conducting an extensive search for days

called it an amazing moment noting suspects are rarely caught on camera during live coverage. Adams himself admitted he was in disbelief saying I was literally just talking about and describing him on TV. Okay, first of all, I need to point out that my producer is he's turned his back on me and he's wearing a hat and he's got his hoodie up because he doesn't want to give anything away because he thinks that he thinks that he was the

reason that he lost last week uh look i think i would have heard about this this feels like a very visual story and i have not heard about this so i mean it would have popped up on my feed for sure it would have popped up on my feed so i'm going to say it's BS it happened this one took place oh wait are you bingo so should we just go to break now all right all right Let's go for it with number two. In a strange scene in Portland, Oregon, police say they stopped a man who was riding a motorized cooler down a busy downtown street. Officers reported the cooler, outfitted with handlebars and tiny headlights, was zipping through traffic at nearly 20 miles per hour. The driver told officers he was just trying to beat the heat was pulled over after weaving between cars.

Since the vehicle wasn't street legal, police issued him a citation for unsafe operation, impounded the gun. cooler. Witnesses said the spectacle looked like something out of a cartoon. Officers reminded residents, though, that creative inventions still have to follow traffic laws. I mean, I think I've seen a cooler with wheels like this.

I think I've seen this before. My guess is if you put something on wheels, I mean, did he make it himself? Is that the implication? I'm not 100% sure, to be honest with you. I'm going to say, you know what? I'm just going to go with my gut this week. I'm not going to overthink these things. I'm going to say it's real.

Man, this is some bullshit. All right, so much for going with my gut. I'm not going with my gut anymore. Yeah. Okay, new plan. New plan, Canada. Just watch what happens next. Number three, please. Police in Des Moines, Iowa were called to an unusual disturbance on Friday night after

reports of a runaway goat roaming through a grocery store. Witnesses said the animal trade. prodded calmly down the aisles, knocking over cereal boxes and even stopping the nibble on a bag of carrots in the produce section. Officers eventually managed to corral the goat near the checkout counters using shopping carts as makeshift barriers. The goat later traced back to a nearby urban farm was returned to its owner. Only minor damage reported, it's not every day your shoplifting suspect has four legs, said the police department in a statement. All right. So, I got the last two wrong.

I said the first one was, okay, I'm going to, you're in my head, drolet. You're in my head. Okay, what do I think? So I saw a story about a deer that was sitting in the doorway of a store a couple of days ago. And if the deer story can be real, this one can be real. I don't think this is unreasonable. so I'm going to say it's real.

A bullshit. What is going on today? I don't like this. I don't like this. I'm down three. Oh my gosh. I don't even think I can win today because there's only two left. All right. Let's go with story number four. In Boise, Idaho, police were called to a downtown park on Sunday after receiving multiple reports of a suspicious person in a tree. When officers arrived, they found not a person, but a life-sized mannequin dressed up as a pirate perched on a branch, complete with an eyepatch and a plastic sword. The prank apparently staged by local college students drew a small crowd before authorities removed the mannequin with the help of a ladder truck.

No arrest made, though police issued a warning about creating public disturbances. When officers said, we've had to deal with parrots and trees before, but then added never the pirate that goes with them. I mean, this sounds dumb. And so it sounds like something drolley would make up. But I think that's what he wants me to do. I think he wants me to say it's BS. So I'm gonna... Hmm.

You're giving me nothing, huh? Dave, nothing. You're going to give me nothing. I'm going to say it's real. See, now that's some bullshit. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Indeed.

From running the table last week to 0 and 4 so far. Oh, yeah, O for 4. All right, I got to redeem myself. I got to end on a high note. Dave Bradley. All right. Police in San Bruno, California pulled over an unusual suspect last weekend, a driverless Waymo Robo taxi that made an illegal U-turn during a DUI enforcement operation.

Officers stopped the empty vehicle but couldn't issue a ticket, joking that their citation books don't have a box for robot. Waymo is owned by Google Parent Alphabet, said it's investigating the incident and reiterated its commitment to road safety. Current laws don't allow citations for autonomous vehicles, though new legislation may soon change that. All right, so I saw a story about a Waymo where this woman was in San Francisco. It's got into a Waymo, and for some reason, she won an award by Waymo,

And it drove her from San Francisco to Disneyland. And she was supposed to go to her office. And it just drove her to Disneyland. So she spent the day of Disney. That's amazing. Yeah, except she had to go to work. So I'm going to say, I'm going to say, because that story is awesome.

And this one sounds, it sounds real. It sounds real. I'm going to say, I'm going to say it's real. It's fact. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Thank God. That would have been embarrassing. We were going to have to cancel the show. We were going to have to cancel the game moving forward. Hey, thank you very much for that, my friend. I appreciate it.

Thank you, Dave. Well done. No problem. What did you do differently this week? I switched up the orders. And I think there's a little bit of a music interlude that we have. Oh, no. And I really wanted to play this song for you.

I mean, you know, act like you've been there before, man. Act like you've been there before. I have once before. Dress for the job you want. Shame on you. You should be ashamed to yourself. Oh, I'm not. Listen, you petty, you petty, petty big man.

Okay. Thank you very much to everybody. that was a lot of fun. All right, wake up. It's time to change the clocks. But permanently, well, we'll talk about that next. We hit the snooze button on daylight saving time. This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you've been following the news, like really following it, you know how exhausting it can be. Politics, conflict, uncertainty. It's a lot to carry. And for many, men, there's this expectation to stay calm, stay in control, and not talk about how it's affecting you. But the truth is, you're allowed to feel overwhelmed. You're allowed to say,

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Yes, it's a debate raging right now, what to do with daylight saving time. Apparently, this has reached the halls of power in Ottawa, and it looks like there is a push, there is momentum to get rid of daylight savings time. I don't know what kind of person you are. I am not somebody who's affected one iota by the clock moving one hour this way or one hour that way. But it is of concern, and it does cause chaos for certain people. We'll get into that in a moment. But Liberal MP, Marie-France-Lalonde, wants Canada to end the practice of changing clocks twice a year.

And she plans to introduce a private member's bill to spark action. The bill, obviously, because this is government, would not simply and directly abolish the time change, but it would call on the federal government to convene to convene, to convene, a national conference with provinces, territories, and stakeholders to decide on a permanent year-round time. Of course. Of course the government wants to have a, somebody in government wants to have a national conference. Like just pick a lane. Just do it or don't do it. Just do it or don't do it. This is what we do it all the time. We've been living with it for a long time. And if you want to get rid of it, just get rid of it. We don't need to convene a

a panel. Okay, so a lot of people think that daylight saving time started with farmers. Farmers wanted more daylight to farm. And that is not the case. It turns out the modern ideas often linked to Benjamin Franklin in 1784, who wrote a satirical essay suggesting Parisians could save candles by waking up earlier to use natural light. Germany and Austria-Hungary were the first to officially adopt daylight saving time, daylight saving time in 1916. And that was during the First World War to conserve fuel by reducing the need for artificial lighting. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I'm here. Why don't we let's, let's listen to the last week tonight's take on, on the Austro-Hungarianness of it all.

The modern daylight saving was introduced during the first World War as a fuel saving measure by the Germans. That's right. You lost an hour of sleep this morning thanks to Kaiser Wilhelm. Thank you, Kaiser Wilhelm. We appreciate it. Other countries soon followed suit,

including the UK, France, and eventually the United States in 1918. Now, it went away after World War I, but then it was implemented again in World War II. And you know, something tells me, it went away without a conference. and it came back without a blue ribbon panel.

But then it went back and forth and all over the place. And here's the thing I didn't know. Here's the thing that really blew my mind. I did not know that it wasn't until 2007 when Canada's daylight saving time schedule was finally and ultimately synchronized with the United States. We had been using it well before then, but I guess there was some parts that weren't synced,

which is very strange. Well, sure, because if you're driving south from wherever you are in Canada into the United States and all of a sudden there's a time change, that would be weird. Yeah, but think about all the confusion because there's parts of Canada where we don't have it. Saskatchewan doesn't do it. Yeah, you know that China is all one time zone. That's one time zone, yeah. China's all one time.

They wanted everybody to be on the same clock. Despite how huge that country is. Yeah, so you can imagine how there's certain people who live their lives in darkness and others, not so much. Okay, so just so that everybody remembers, daylight saving time starts the second Sunday in March and ends the first Sunday in November. So we got about a month left here, guys. And it's observed in most provinces and territories, except most of Saskatchewan, parts of Quebec? Yeah.

What? It's confusing. Yeah, very confusing. And Nunavut would stay on standard time year round. Now, here are the arguments against daylight saving time. Apparently, there is a spike in heart attacks during daylight saving time. I don't understand how or why it's an hour. It's a statistical thing that they're able to prove.

I'm sure there is. I just don't understand it. It does make any sense. In 2008, a Swedish study found that heart attacks increased from 5 to 10% on the Monday after the clock spring forward, likely due to lack of sleep. It's an hour. I keep going back to that. It's one hour.

Conversely, when the clocks fall back, heart attacks drop slightly. And they also say more car accidents. But that might just be because it's darker in the morning. Yeah, possibly. Like more car, yeah. And people are more stressed and people are more angry and people are more, like their circadian rhythms are messed up. And sleep experts recommend permanent standard time, which better supports, like I said, natural circadian rhythms. Permanent standard time would mean earlier sunsets in the summer, but healthier alignment with our body clock.

So do you care one way or the other if this gets switched? No, I don't at all. I don't at all. Like most days I don't even wear a watch. I just have my phone. So my phone would be telling me, my phone would be telling me what time it is regardless. I don't have to switch that ever, right? So I don't, do you care?

Not really. But if you think about some places like in the far north, it really doesn't matter because, you know, say Norway or Sweden, in the winter there living in darkness. In the summer, summer months, sometimes it's 24 hours sun. it depends on where you live. I mean, look, I really enjoy late, like late sunsets in the summertime. I love that. I do too. My favorite day of the year, my favorite and my least favorite day is, is, what, the 21st of June?

Yeah. Because that's the longest day, the day with the most sunlight. And I love it because it's the most sunlight, but I also hate it because I know that every day that comes after, it doesn't get any better than that. I would rather have more sunlight at the end of the day in the winter than sunlight in the morning because I want to be able to walk my dog after work and not feel like it's, oh God, it's bedtime. What's going on here? In the wintertime, like I don't complain about heat ever. You'll never hear me complain about heat.

I do complain about cold all the time. I hate the cold. And I oftentimes ask myself in the dead of winter what decisions in my life led to living in, with this weather. And I remember that meme? The air hurts my face. Why do I live somewhere where the air hurts my face? Yes. Yes. That's how I feel in the wintertime. So I like the reward of extra sunlight in the summertime. I'm rarely cooled. Like there's nothing, yeah, nothing is ever going to be entirely positive in the wintertime for me. So who cares if there's no sunlight? But you know Donald Trump was asked about this? You know what his response was? It's one of

those 50-50 things. And if you can't, so he was like, yeah, he wasn't going to make a decision on it one way or the other because it's a 50-50 issue. 50% of the people like getting up early. And he does that. Yeah. That's interesting because normally he has strong opinions. And you can tell when he genuinely doesn't have an opinion, he'll say something like that. Which is into, but he still went on for a minute and a half. Yeah. No, I listen, if it went away, it would not affect me. one bit, not one bit. I wonder if the bigger controversy around

daylight saving time is the saving versus savings. How, I know, people say savings all the time. I've been watching, I've been watching Dave on the board, and every time I say saving, he nods. He's like, good, good, well done, Ben. Well done. Amy, our video tech is like, she was savings this morning.

And I was like, no, no, no, Amy. Oh, yeah. What's, um, Greg Brady, uh, who hosts the morning show here at 640 Toronto. He was saying savings. I had to correct him. I said, listen, you sound like a moron. I said, don't tell you, man, but you're supposed to be an authority and you sound, you sound stupid. And he didn't know or he did it on, he just didn't think about it. I think a lot of people just don't think about it. They like savings time. I mean, it rolls

off the tongue better, right? It just does. But listen, I would like to be on this panel to be part of this discussion. What's this panel going to look like? How long is it going to And define what a stakeholder is. What is a stakeholder in this? Anybody who can tell time? Kaiser Wilhelm. Kaiser Wilhelm. Yeah, we can thank the Kaiser.

We can thank the Kaiser. Maybe he should be on this panel. But no, what is the panel going to look like? What are they going to discuss? How are they going to debate it? Are we going to do it or are we not going to do it? It's pretty simple stuff. Exactly.

Well, then, oh, what's Trump saying? 50-50. Listen, we hired this government to make the tough decision. So either keep it or get rid of it. but the humming and the hoeing and checking in with stakeholders all the time, je ma pass, as we say in French. All right, guys.

Thank you very much for that fulsome conversation on daylight saving time. I dare you to pay attention. I dare you to pay attention. I dare you to try something new. I dare you to challenge what you think you know. I dare you to think differently. I dare you to show up.

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