The Ben Mulroney Show - How to recycle the speed cameras? Ask Brampton. And let's talk bylaw weirdness.

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

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Get better answers to tough questions. BlueJ. AI for tax experts. the Ben Mulroney show on Wednesday, the 19th of November. Thank you so much for starting Hump Day with us. We appreciate it. We appreciate everything that you do for our show because it's not just one thing. It's not just a radio show.

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Still got my sexy voice. We get the rasp. The rasp. And Mike Droulet, my intrepid producer, how are you? Is, do I have my sexy voice? I mean, you got what you got, buddy. Always. You got what you got.

You got to play with what you're given, right? Yeah, yeah. You play the hand that you were dealt. And welcome to the show, Dave Spargala behind the board. How are you today, sir? Doing well, thank you. How are you? Very well.

You know, normally we come. Dave brought in. I think you got to talk about Dave brought in. Yeah. Homemade, home made, he says. homemade cookies disaster I'm on a diet

yeah I should be yeah but they're homemade cookies I think it's impressive how they're in a box with like you know one of the plastic covering on it and stuff you did well

the way you package them I have my own business so professional yeah thank you I have my own business so I try to sell them right well thank you for the

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Very kind of me. Very, very kind. Hey, listen, we got a lot to get to today. But one of the stories we're going to be talking about a little bit later is that we have a new Canadian soccer player, a brand new Canadian soccer player. Yeah. He's a centerback Alfie Jones. And if you listen to him speak, he doesn't sound like he's from around here.

Yeah. Does he sound like he's maybe from, like, you know, Quebec or? Not even remotely. Newfoundland? Not even remotely. Where is he from? Africa? No.

What? No. The UK. Oh, he's from the UK. He's from the UK. But he was newly eligible through his Canadian-born grandmother to become a Canadian citizen.

Somebody apparently flagged it to the Canadian men's soccer team. They said, hey, this guy's got some Canadian roots. He's got a Canadian grandmother born in Alberta. And they went, oh, hello. And how good is he? Well, he was man to the match last. night when they played Venice well.

Okay, all right. So, and apparently, was he the one who name-checked Regan? Yes. Yeah, so apparently Regan Watts, who is one of our pundits on this week in politics, got name-checked by this guy thanking him. So Regan played some sort of role in bringing him into the Canadian family. We'll find out later. We're going to find out later.

Well, do you have to be Canadian to play on... You have to have a connection. TFC? No. TFC, no. Canadian men's team. Canadian men's team. The World Cup's coming up. Oh, right. You do.

Oh, yes. Okay. Of course. You think, there you go. There you go. Years ago, there was a very good Canadian soccer player from Calgary named Owen Hargraves. And because he had connections to the UK, and he was very good. And Canada wasn't good enough to play in the World Cup. He wanted to do that. So he ended up getting British citizenship, and he played for England. And he was fantastic. So turnabouts fair play, UK. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Well, listen, lots to get to on the show today.

I'm really looking forward to this conversation we're having in the next segment. I had no idea, and I just check with Greg Brady. I asked him, how many bylaws do you think have ever been put on the books in the city of Toronto? And he said 9,000. He said 9,000. We're doing that 930, by the way. Oh, that's a 930, yep. There are so many bylaws that some of them are just beyond the pale.

They are so crazy. They are so odd. They're so weird. And you've got to ask yourself, why? Why? Why? How did these, how did somebody at City Hall get the idea to tell you, you you can't do that thing. So we know the number. Brady guessed 9,000. Amy, can you guess how many

bylaws have been created since Toronto's inception? One thousand nine hundred and thirty. What? Did you see the number in the script? No. Eighty-seven hundred, sure? Yeah. They're all, they're going lower than Brady. Just wait. Wait until 930 when we start talking about this. You're not going to believe how many have been put on the books since, but incorporate the Aren't I right? You're nowhere close to right. By what? Multiply by what? 20? What? Yeah. Yeah. Are you kidding me? How many trees is that?

All the trees. It's all the trees. And also, yesterday was just an odd day that I did not have on my bingo card with Sweden doing a full court press in Ottawa, trying to bring Canada into the fold on purchasing something from them, and it sure ain't meatballs. No, it's not. But you know, hey, when King Carl Gustav, the... 16th. Yeah. Yeah. And Queen Sylvia show up. You roll out the red carpet. You roll out the red carpet. And you listen to them. Yes. Yesterday was a very bad day for Donald Trump. Like, he was like Donald Trump of old, like 1.0. Insulting the press, screaming at the press, chastising the press, calling them fake news. And let's. Going beyond that. I mean. Oh, yeah. Well, that was at the, was at the end of the day after what happened on the hill? Fake news. Yeah. I think so. Yes, he was. He was on Air Force One. He called told him. Oh, yeah, he told a woman, quiet piggy. He told that to a member of the press, quiet piggy. Because obviously what's happening right now is Congress, both houses of Congress,

in a rare display of bipartisanship, got together and decided they were going to, they were going to lead the charge to make public all of the Jeffrey Epstein files. It's happening. Yeah, it is. Well, it's got to go to his desk, right? He's got to sign it. Yeah. And he says he's going to.

But don't forget, Donald Trump said he was going to do that as soon as he became president again. He became president again. And all of a sudden, he refused to do it. And people are wondering why. What did you see in that that made you think we do not want to make this public? So it doesn't look good. It's not a good look. So now his hand's been forced.

And we're finally going to get to see what is in this dossier. And I think it's about time. I think we want it for salacious reasons, but also because there are. There are so many victims. The victims deserve. They all want it. They all want. Everybody wants it. We got to know what we got to know what we don't know. Yeah. And it's up to Trump now. Yeah. There is a BC human rights commissioner who wrote a 22-page report saying criminalizing drug use is racist and colonialist. What? And I, so we got Tristan Hopper of the National Post joining us because he's written on this.

This is just, yet again, it's somebody sitting in judgment who thinks they know better than everybody else, especially the elected officials, and in this case, better than David Eby's NDP government. Somebody who's likely never walked through the streets of the city. Yeah, no, it's it. But think about the judgments that we've been talking about over the past month. They're making life harder, right? Think about this. Amy, driving to work today. What did you see?

I saw cops pulling over to the Salvation Army, I guess. One of the housing centers in downtown. With like machete, I don't know, guns. Machine guns. They're going into the Salvation Army? Yeah. With semi-automatic weapons. Four cops with machine guns, yeah.

Yeah, well, that's, yeah, that's Canada in 2025. But think about it. The Supreme Court ruled that no mandatory minimums for possession of child porn. Great. That's super. What? You've got the Cowichin ruling in British Columbia. Their Supreme Court, super. Now you've got this woman saying to, what is it?

She said, criminalizing drug use is racist and colonialists. Like these are supposedly the smartest people in the room. What is wrong with her? Well, all of them are making decisions that are just making it harder to govern this. country. She's sitting in her ivory tower. Yeah, not worried about the people who are in the throws of drug addiction. It's incredible because, I mean, their whole idea about treating drug addiction is just to give them more, give them more access to it. And they forget about the second part of that, which is treatment. Yeah, yeah. And lastly, we're going to talk about why the

smartest immigrants are leaving this country. There's a new study that's showing that the best and the brightest, the ones that were, uh, that defined our old, great, wonderful immigration system, the best and the brightest coming from all over the world to come help build Canada. The ones we recruited. The ones we recruited, the, the crem to the crem, they're all leaving. They're all, not all. A lot of them are leaving. And what does that leave us with.

Jeez. Yeah. What a day. Yeah. What a day. We've got a lot. And of course, we've got, um, uh, Craig Baird from Canadian History X. We've got a big, uh, we're talking about Canada moving over the

electric system. And another stupid word of the year. Oh, another one. Another one. God, God help us all. All right. Up next, how one municipality turned the speed camera fiasco into, believe it or not, a positive. Don't go anywhere. This is The Ben Mulroney Show. and you make lemonade. And what's been going on between the province of Ontario and various municipalities across the province has been, in a lot of cases, the government has been giving the municipalities lemons in the form of taking away a significant source of revenue in speed cameras because Doug Ford has decided that they are a cash grab pure and simple

and doesn't want to subject people to this outlay of cash that some of us are constantly doing every time we just run a foul of the speed limit by just a few kilometers. So he said they're all going away. And despite the protestations of a number of municipalities, the speed cameras are no longer speed cameras. However,

Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown has found a way to reverse engineer a solution where he can still repurpose them and still use them for public service. So let's listen to Patrick Brown on this radio station yesterday.

The reality is it's a democracy. You know, Premier Ford has a majority. This is the wish of his government. And so we have to pivot. We have to adapt. And we have to make a good situation out of, frankly, a frustrating beginning. You know, this was a provincial program. We bought these cameras. We built this infrastructure because the province created the legislation to do so. And so, you know, not happy how it went down. Having said that, we're going to make it work. and we're going to make it serve public safety in Peel region. So that was on Greg Brady yesterday, or was it today? Well, regardless, that was in the recent past.

And so what's he doing? What is he doing that is going to allow him to still use these speed cameras? Well, the province is allowing Brampton to do three different things with speed cameras. They can transition speed cameras into what's called red light cameras. Tickets can be mailed for going through. red lights for a speed camera in front of a school or in a school area. They're also going to use the, they're going to add audio equipment to the camera, and drivers with illegal or souped up mufflers can be charged with noise violations.

He was asked if a violator could get a ticket in the mail for this, and Brown said that's exactly what will happen once the audio component is added. And the third thing that they're going to be able to do with this is Brampton will allow the police to use the cameras for police investigations. So break and enter, home invasion, stolen cars. The cameras are going to help identify potential suspects. I think this is a great middle ground. This is like a pathway that I don't think a lot of people thought was possible.

It's creative is what it is. Yeah. I love it. So let's listen to a little bit more of Patrick Brown. I'm happy where we've landed. I think these cameras are going to be helpful on those three fronts. You know, what I have liked for stunt driving to be on the list, you know, if you had gone 100 kilometers over, you get a ticket. Sure. But, you know, like anything, you're not going to

get everything you ask for. But the three things the province has approved, I'm, I'm happy with. So this was, this is a mayor. I don't know whose idea it was, but I'm going to give credit to Patrick Brown, because he seems, he's the leader. He seems to be the one shepherding this forward. Yeah. And good for him. Because I, I, I'm, I, you might remember a few months ago when this, when the battle lines were being drawn between the city of Toronto and Queens Park, Olivia Chow had her own idea where if you got a ticket on Monday, you wouldn't be able to get another ticket for the next six days, which was kind of crazy because that does nothing to stop speeding. That's just money that the city gets.

So I believe she was still thinking, how can I squeeze money out of these things? How can I keep the revenue flowing? And I don't know that she really thought long and hard the way Patrick Brown did. Patrick Brown was thinking creatively, probably because he wasn't thinking, how can I, How can the cash cow continue? How can the gravy train continue? He's thinking about what are the other issues? What are the real issues about public safety?

Yeah. Safety. Yeah, safety. Because that's what they're about. They're supposed to be about that we can address apart from just speeding. And he came up with some ideas. And that wasn't, it wasn't even suggested from the city of Toronto. Yeah.

And look, and Queens Park gave them the go ahead. So Queens Park probably didn't think about this. And I'm like, oh, you can do that. That's a great idea. Okay, we'll let you do that. You can keep them up. Keep them up. And school zones, by the way, I think a lot of people, myself included, thought that the best compromise would have been figuring out a way to keep them in school zones as a way to calm traffic. I had no problem with them in school zones. What I didn't like was the traffic camera catching me as I was leaving a school zone. Make that make sense. But Doug Ford wants none of it. So this is the compromise. And I think it's a great, great idea. Now, as a reminder, our mayor in this city, when faced with the prospect of losing these cameras, what did she do? What did she do? She got into it in front of a camera and she said, well, if I don't have the money, then I can't pay for the crossing guards.

And I'm going to have to cut 900 crossing guards. No more crossing guards at pretty much any school, which I think is an insane proposition. I think it was designed to try to make Doug Ford look bad. I don't think you want to ruin your relationship with the guy. at Queen's Park, but it looks like the mayor has no problem with that. She's if she's going to burn that bridge, she's going to burn that bridge. And I think a lot of us, when we heard her say that, like, hold on a second. You need 20 million bucks or whatever it is.

You can find it elsewhere. There's $20 million that can be found in the budget. No problem because there's no, unless you're telling me that every single penny at City Hall is well spent, which it is not, you can find that money. And you think about how she sort of went about this saying, you know what, if you don't allow us to do exactly what we want to do, well then you're going to be responsible for what I have to do

and it's not going to be pretty, but you're going to be responsible. I don't think it landed with people the way the mayor was hoping. Because a lot of us were saying, hey, how'd you pay for these crossing guards before the speed cameras? The crossing guards predate speed cameras. So how did you pay for them before? Yeah.

It's a simple question. It's a really easy question. And now it's like, well, if we don't have that, well, then those 900 security guards, those crossing guards, we're going to get rid of them. Yeah. They're going to be out of a job. I remember, I'm old enough and I've lived in the city long enough to remember

when Mayor David Miller was sitting around with some friends trying to figure out how can we get more revenue into the city budget. And they're like, well, we could do a city land transfer tax. I mean, there's a provincial one, but we could do our own here as well. And they're like, okay, let's do that. And that was supposed to solve a whole bunch of problems. Did it, like, now look at us today. We have a huge budget shortfall.

We have the land transfer tax. We have higher taxes. How much in the past couple of years? 16%. 16%. 16%. And still, you can't find the money for crossing guards now that the speed cameras are gone.

I don't know how much clearer it needs to be. There's a spending problem in Toronto, not a revenue problem. plenty of revenue. What do you think the reaction will be if another tax hike is proposed on top of the 16% of the last two years? Oh, there will be. I mean, absolutely will be. I heard the mayor on a podcast explaining there's a whole bunch of raises for city workers, for police officers, for the TTC workers, and that's got to get paid for, and she's going to justify the pay hike. All the bureaucracy at City Hall? Well, of course. And aren't they all getting raises this year, too? Yeah. Yeah. They're all getting raises.

Well, the person responsible for the land acknowledgments and all that stuff. Oh, the chief protocol officer. Her salary has gone up huge, last five years. It's gone up like 40,000 bucks or something like that? She makes more than I do here. Yeah. Yeah, she makes more than all of us in this room. Yeah.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, City of Toronto. Like, that's why I really do support the idea of a line-by-line audit of everything that's in the city budget. One line at a time, do we need this? Are we getting our value for the taxpayer? Line by line.

If the answer is no, you get rid of it. Get rid of it and you start again. Are you representing your constituents' best interests? Or is this some political or ideological sort of motivated decision you're made? Well, I think that's going to be a lot of it. There's a lot of that. There's a lot. Too much of that.

I'm so sick of that. Represent us. Fix the city. Fix the streets. Do all the things you're supposed to do in a municipality. and keep your ideas out of it. Yeah, but come on, man. We're the people who let cities break.

That's my favorite line of all time. Where are the people who let cities break? Says City Councilor Osma Malik's best friend who signed her nomination papers in 2022. Yeah, she said that. And she was one of the founding members of Progress T.O. So I would urge every single resident of this city if somebody from the left is coming to your door

asking for your vote, ask them if they subscribe to that belief. And if they say no, then follow up with some more questions. Listen, vote for whomever you want. But ask the questions. Ask the questions. Get the answers that you need because that's the only way that we're going to get the government that we deserve. All right. Up next, could you get a $10,000 fine for dropping your dog poop bag in somebody else's garbage? Could be. Hey, buddy, what's the deal? What are you talking about? Do you have something in my garbage can?

I threw garbage in your garbage can. Yeah, that's my garbage can. So? I appreciate it if you want to do that. Doesn't garbage belong in a garbage can? Yeah, aren't you doing it? My garbage belongs in my garbage can. Your garbage belongs in your garbage can, okay?

Well, what's the difference? The difference? Yeah, it's mine. The can's not full. I don't get it. Next guy I see throwing garbage in there I'm going to kick his a I'll give that message to the next guy. This is the Ben Mulroney Show.

This is the Ben Mulroney Show. Thanks. We appreciate that you join us every day and welcome back. Welcome back. Hey, guess how many bylaws have been enacted by the city of Toronto including its predecessor municipalities since 1834? We've had a few guesses today.

We had 9,000. We had 1,100. We had, well, 8,200. 1,200. The total number of bylaws enacted by this city and its predecessors, 198,000. 198,000 bylaws. I hope all the bylaw officers have memorized those.

Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure, listen, I'm sure some of them have been taken off the books. Some of them have been rescinded or whatever it's called, nullified. I don't know what the word is. But that's a lot of bylaws. That's a lot. So we decided we were going to have a little bit of fun today on Hump Day. And we're going to look at one of the best, one of the best, because a lot of us have dogs,

A lot of us walk our dogs. If you're respectful, you pick up after your dog with a little plastic bag. And then what are you supposed to do with that bag? Well, typically what I do is I take it home and put it in a special little bin and my kids do the same thing. But on certain days when, on trash day, if I'm, if my dog poos and there's a trash bin right there waiting to get picked up, I kind of, every now and then I put it in the trash bin. But now I'm finding out, I'm running a foul of the law. Apparently I'm some sort of outlaw now And because it is against municipal bylaws

To throw dog waste bags into somebody else's garbage bin It is technically illegal in Toronto And there are tons of confrontations over this sort of thing City officials advise against doing what I just said Putting your dog refuse in somebody else's bin They say the uh the bylaws tax paid bin capacity common courtesy is one of the reasons why is this but yeah you got to ask like what happens if a some very uh like a go getter sort of bylaw enforcement

officer sees you do this what is the punishment for this well if you ignore the rules a first time conviction while unlikely could see you facing a maximum of 10,000, $10,000 fine for putting your poop in somebody else's garbage. Seriously, that's on the books. Some dog owners follow what's called exceptions, only using curbside bins on garbage day, while other refuse entirely opting to carry the waste until a public bin is available. I do all those things. I do all those things.

But we wanted to now open up the calls to you, 416-870-6400 or 1-8-225 talk. Let's hear from you. let's talk about the crazy bylaws in the city of Toronto because we'll talk about dog poop first and then we'll open it up to the crazy ones so give us a call 4168-870-6400 or 1-3-8-225 talk Adam welcome to the show

I'm totally for this bylaw for people not putting it in other people's bins yeah why is that you drop because if you then drop your garbage on top of that bag and it splurts open now your garbage can is full of excrement. Yeah, possibly. I mean, I listen, it's the inside of a garbage room. I'm a person

who does not have a dog. Does not want to have anything to do with dogs. And I don't want somebody else giving me their dog. I just don't know how big of a problem this is that it requires a bylaw to cover it. You know what I mean? You need a bylaw. You think you wouldn't need bylaws about fences. Talk to the city about fighting fence that, why they have to have a fence. referee.

Yeah, no, listen, you're right, Laisa, yeah, you're right, the height of the fences. That has to be, that has to be stipulated in a bylaw. That, I get it, you know. Yeah, so if you don't have a bylaw, then people can do whatever they want.

And they can say, well, too bad. And then, and then it goes to court instead. Yeah. Where two people start fighting it out, and you think the courts need to go around, worrying about whether somebody's dropping poop into somebody else's, uh, But do you honestly, do you think that a first-time conviction fine of $10,000 is maybe a little overkill?

It's up to, right? Yes, of course. Of course. Of course. Right. Yeah, I know. It's just, look, there, and then there are, every property has a bylaw on it. So that's why there's so many bylaws.

Let me ask you a question, Adam, would you ever, if you saw somebody breaking what you knew to be a bylaw, would you call a bylaw enforcement officer? sir? Depends with the bylaw. I mean, you know, I mean, if I see someone like, you know, if you saw somebody doing this. If it was my, if it was my can, yeah, if it was somebody else's can, no, that's not my prop. Gotcha. Yeah.

Plus, I don't want to, plus knowing the way people feel about their dogs in the city, I probably wouldn't say anything because they probably get stabbed. Yeah. Hey, thank you very much for the call, my friend. I appreciate it. Yeah, listen, now that I know that it is against the bylaw, I'm not going to do it anymore. I had no idea. You can put it still into the public bins.

Oh, I do that. I absolutely do that. I would not. Why wouldn't you? Yeah. But for me, it happened just a few days. It was cold. I didn't have gloves on.

I didn't want to put my hand in my pocket with the poop. And there was a garbage bin right there. But I won't do it anymore. Now that I know, give us a call 416-8-0-6400 or 1-3-8-2-25 talk. Have you come to blows or nearly to blows with somebody who has taken poop and put it in your garbage bin? Or have you been the guy doing the putting of the poop in the bin? Give us a call. Well, people are really protective of their lawns.

Some people don't pick up, which is the most annoying thing. Those people should be. You've got that issue. Yeah, well, I have that issue. I live in a corner lot. People were doing it. So I bought a ring camera. Not for security of the home, but for the catch people.

That's crazy to me. everybody, everybody who buys a ring camera does so to make sure that their car doesn't get stolen. Not you. You want to make sure that people are curbing their dog. The intrepid mic drollet. Yeah, look, it's, I get it.

I get it when neighbors, you got to regulate how they, what the rules are of engagement between neighbors. I've had great neighbors. I have great neighbors right now, but I lived in a place before where the neighbors were not so good. and and I

but to be honest I wouldn't even know yeah we got another hey welcome to the show Andrew thank you for calling the Ben Mulroney show good morning Ben good morning

yeah so I was I was saying to your screener like I'm a dog owner I walk my dog I pick up after my dog and I spit poop in the green bin

why because that's where it's supposed to go apparently that's better for the environment yeah Okay, no, if I can't do that, where do I put it? Recycling? No, no. Put it in litter. Yeah, you put it in the garbage or the green bin, right now.

Do the bags, do the bags themselves, can those go in the green bin too? They can. They can apparently go in the green bin. Okay, well, that's good. Listen, that's good to know. I didn't know that. See, I'm learning a whole bunch today. Yeah, absolutely. Have you, as you've been walking your dog, do you ever, have you ever put it in somebody else's bin? absolutely did you know that it was against a municipal bylaw i do now uh or did i did this conversation happened did i hear this what no i yeah now i know and now that you know are

you going to stop doing it or are you going to continue doing it with impunity i'm going to be a little bit more like i'll look for somewhere to put it yeah but if that's not the case Okay, take over yourself. It's one bag, and by the way, it's decomposable. Yeah. I'm spending money on this. Andrew, hey, thank you so much. I got a few more people to get to, so thank you very much.

And who do we have now? We've got Mike. Mike, welcome to the show. Morning there, Ben. To put poop or not to put poop? That is the question. Well, you know, I'm going to say definitely to put poop. However, the reason is in following with us being now in the Christmas season, especially,

goodwill toward your fellow man. People scoop and their poop to keep the thoroughfare free of debris, free of poop. So you're doing something nice for the general public by being a responsible dog owner. Why is it such a hard thing to get your head around

to put it in somebody, the first available garbage bag, so that they're garbage pails so that you're not carrying it around. Potentially, as the other caller said, it could open up quickly onto your pants and shoes as it could back onto the thoroughfare. Most people don't think you had to take two bags or three, just one.

Yep. You're right. Get it out of your hand as soon as it's used. And I think the, you know, use a barometer. Mike, I got a run. Thank you so much. Thank you to everybody for calling in. I appreciate it.

All right. What are the dumbest bylaws out there? We want to make a list with you next. Don't go anywhere. This is Ben Mulroney show. This is the Ben Mulroney Show, and this is the time of the show where we like to turn the microphone over to you. We like to take calls and hear what you, the listeners and the community of the Ben Mulroney Show, have to say. The Toronto Municipal Code has 950 chapters, not pages, chapters.

So let's play a game. In a city that makes decisions that often boggle the mind, what bylaw wins for the most mind-boggingly boggliest. That's a, I've tried to say it, but couldn't do it. Tony, welcome to the show. Yeah, Ben, just a quick story. Cutting my grass one Saturday morning. They've done the North Shore Lake Erie. A couple walking their dog, boyfriend and girlfriend.

The dog poops on the front lawn. My ditch was eliminated because they got grass right out to the road. And I see them and they don't pick up. So I stop the tractor and holler out, hey, do the right thing and pick up. The girlfriend actually said some rude and derogatory words towards me. I got upset, got off the tractor, picked up a shovel, went and scooped up the poop, and kind of put it in their face and saying, like, you should do the right thing. It's your dog, you know, clean up after him.

She got even more upset. She looks at her boyfriend and says, are you going to do anything? Like, what's he going to do other than maybe pick up the shit? pick up the poop and what I did is I got so mad because she kept sending out some racial slurs towards me so I kind of just took the shovel and flung the poop towards her way uh-huh she gets so mad she picks up the poop and flings it back at me but instead of it projecting towards me it disintegrates in the air of her and lands all on top of her and I thought how ironic, here she is, not

doing the right thing, and I'm kind of pointing it out to her, and she tries to fling it back in my face and it disintegrates all over her. Kind of if you were to throw a baseball, and it loosens out of your hand, goes up in the air and comes straight down on it. Yeah, and also, let's remember, she now has

poo on her hands. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, thank you so much for the call. I appreciate it, Tony. All right, who do we have next? We've got Steve. Steve, welcome to the Ben Mulroney Show. Did you expect a boomerang poop story today? I did not expect a room around poop story. I also didn't expect somebody who was so angry at the idea of picking up after their dog.

They picked up the poo with their bare hands. Yeah. That's a new one for me. Steve, welcome to the show. Oh, hi, Ben. Listen to your show, pretty regular. Anyway, great show. Thank you.

Okay, quickly, I live in what was once called the city of North York. As you know, there was an amalgamation 25 years ago, correct? Correct. So we have this bylaw that I think Mr. Lastman put it. that starting December 1st till March 31st, from 2 a.m. till 6 a.m., you are not allowed to park your car on the road. Right. Okay. Now, in the Toronto, where North York wasn't part of, that bylaw does not exist. So I live in a townhouse where I can park one car on my driveway and one car in my garage. So during the winter, obviously, I cannot have anybody

coming over, to say over, party. You know what I mean? And I ask my counsel that, well, ask your neighbor to park. I can't ask my neighbor. And I've been on the case. Why can't they amalgamate the law? Harmonize the different bylaws from across the old,

all the different other unionist policies. Very good question. Thank you very much, Steve. I appreciate it. Give us a call. 416870-6400 or 1-3-8-2-25 talk. Look, the poop, the 10,000, fine for poop in somebody else's bin. That's a high watermark for the city of Toronto. But there's some other ones.

For example, it is illegal to feed squirrels, pigeons, ducks, or other wild animals on public or private property except for songbirds under very specific conditions. I don't know what all the songbirds are. I suspect what a cardinal is a songbird? I would assume so. Right? What else is a songbird? I don't know.

So you can't, you can't, is a blue jubes? a songbird? Yeah, but they screech. It's not really a song. Okay, so, yeah, I would imagine it would be. Okay, so you can feed those, but you can't feed a pigeon. Yeah. Okay.

That makes a lot, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Giddy pigs, rabbits, and pigeons. Did you know you're restricted to four guinea pigs or rabbits per household? Why? The guinea pig limitation must be because of... Maybe they can, maybe they can procreate. That might be it. Maybe if you have two minutes.

Maybe it's like Star Trek and the Tribbles? The tribbles, exactly. Maybe that's what that is. Same thing. The rabbit's like it. Yeah. And pigeons, I guess, the same. Pigeons are different, though, right?

Pigeons are different because a lot of people own pigeons. And if you keep pigeons, you're allowed a maximum of 30 pigeons in the off season. That's November through March. We are currently in the off season. So if you are someone who keeps pigeons, no more than 30, and no more than 50 during breeding season, which is the rest of the year. Something I did not know. I did not know that Mike Tyson breeds pigeons. Did you know that?

No, I did not know that. But, I mean, he's not boxing, so what else is he going to do? Yeah, so there you go. So he, if he lived in Toronto, no more than 50 pigeons. I think they might make an exception for Mike. What I don't get, though, is why would anybody breed pigeons? They do just fine on their own, right? It's a thing.

Mike Tyson's obsessed with it. Hey, let's welcome Marty to the conversation. Marty, talk to us about a crazy bylaw. It's back to the dog poop. All right, let's do it. My deal with it is that either it's been in my bin after the cycling's already been picked up. So it's sitting in my bin for another week. But more importantly, where they don't care, there's no common sense, and they don't lock the bin.

And then the raccoons have gotten to it. Oh, yeah. And that's happened a couple of times with me. Yeah, well, my favorite was when the city had convinced themselves that they had created a raccoon-proof bin. and then the ring camera showed that no, no, they're as smart as people in terms of getting in and out of those bins. Did not take a very long.

They have opposable thumbs. Yeah, I know. I've heard they've gotten into the newer bins where you can lock them. I know. No, listen, they learn. They learn. They're going to take over.

They're going to take over with the monkeys, with the apes. It's going to happen. I do have a hack. We've done this at my parents' house for the green bin. Is what you do, you take a, buy one of those bungee cords.

Yeah. And then you screw in, in like a little hook at the bottom of the bin and then just stretch it from there. They can knock it over, but they cannot get into it. No, my sister does that. It's genius. My sister does that.

We're all smart people here. There you go. It's just a tip. But you shouldn't have to do that. No, you shouldn't have to do it, but like. But raccoons are smarter than us. Okay. Let's, let's, let's, okay, we got a few more minutes.

And if you want to talk bylaws, gives us a call 4168-70-6400 or 1-3-2-5 talk. here's a couple of some rules in parks Yes So these are some old park rules They are under review But they still ban things

Like swearing in parks You cannot swear in a public park in Toronto Oh gosh darn it You can't climb trees In a public park in Toronto You can't use a stun gun On a dog I assume that's in a public park in Toronto

Like that's Was somebody using a stun gun on a dog, which is why they had to put this bylaw in? Because that's the only reason that they would ever think to talk about this, write it down, codify it, and turn it into a bylaw. Here are a couple of other surprising things about park rules and the bans. In Toronto's municipal parks, you can be fine for having a large gathering of 25 people or more without a permit. You can't fly kites, and you can't land a hot air balloon. Thank you. Good goodness, we've got that on the books.

What do you mean you can't fly a kite? That's what it says. Come on. A hot air balloon, I understand. That'd be hilarious, though. Yeah. But flying a kite? Come on.

What about? It's a nice open space. What about climbing trees? Okay. Well, maybe they don't want to be held liable if some stupid kid falls out of it. Yeah. That parents aren't watching. I get that.

Because that happens a lot. And large gathering of 25 people or more, if you don't have a permit, you'll be fined. I've seen plenty of. of large gatherings with no permits. Hey, Leon, I think we're sticking with the dog poop, aren't we? Hello? Yes, Leon, real quick.

Give me your thoughts in about 30 seconds. Okay, seeing-eye dogs are trained to poop on command, and I train my dog, like, I don't have a seeing-eye dog, but I train my dog the same way. And before he goes out for a walk, he poops in my backyard, then I take him for a walk, and I don't have to take anything

with me. See, listen, I think everybody wishes they had the world's best trained dog, but that is not the case for any of us. Hey, thank you very much for that. I appreciate it. This was fun. The City of Toronto, 950 chapters of bylaws. Don't use a stun gun. Don't use a stun gun on a dog in a public park, or you will be fine. Also, you're a terrible human being if you do that. Myself, one of the best players to ever play this game. Wednesdays on Global.

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