The Ben Mulroney Show - Is Donald Trump the biggest issue in this election? We discussed with listeners

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

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which is finally an election, a chance for us to have our voices heard at the ballot box and either hold this government to account for what we feel has been mismanagement over the past 10 years, or give them the mandate that they have been asking for. I think you know where I'm coming from, but we're gonna be talking about this. This is election 2025 on 640 Toronto, your voice, your vote. And this is, this is the moment these next few weeks will be consequential.

Every time one of our leaders, federal leaders stands in front of a microphone, what they say will matter. It will resonate. You can either believe it or not. And on this radio show, we are going to do our best to bring you all sides of every debate. As I've said many times before, you know where I'm coming from. I am not a journalist, I don't pretend to be. I have opinions. And that is why I'm here in this chair behind this microphone is to share them with you. And I hope that we have a forum where despite the fact that I have a very particular point of view, other voices are welcome on this show. As a matter of fact, we have put the call out

to all the federal leaders, to Jagmeet Singh, to Mark Carney, and to Pierre Poliev. All three are welcome on this show anytime. We welcome them hopefully in person, hopefully for more than one segment. And if they are not here, if you do not hear them on the Ben Mulrooney show, I wanna go on record today,

it is not because we haven't asked. Simple as that. We want them here, we welcome them. If I feel there's a reason to push back, I will. If they say something that makes sense, I will tell you as much, but that is the lay of the land on day one. All right, so that's the first part.

Can I tell you my hot take? You might not like this, but I'm getting sick and tired of elbows up. Elbows up is annoying. Elbows up is disingenuous. Elbows up is parochial and small-minded and Canadian in the worst possible way. When I see the mayor of Toronto get up on stage saying, elbows up, elbows up, okay,

with all due respect, Madam Mayor, you're the mayor of Toronto. Keep your focus on Toronto. Your elbows up towards Donald Trump is performative at best. How about elbows up, defending the streets of Toronto against people who will take them over for whatever reason they deem necessary. Your elbows were not up last week

when people decide to pray in the middle of a very busy street, preventing people from living their lives, preventing emergency vehicles from getting where they needed to go. And your elbows were certainly not up on Al-Quds day. What is Al-Quds day, you ask? Well, it was established by Iran's Islamic regime.

Already disqualifying, disqualifying. That should have been broken up immediately. Would any of us support remembering a holiday celebrated in Nazi Germany? Because yes, they are one in the same. They are one in the same. Al-Qudsdeh promotes the destruction of Israel and the eradication of its people full stop. There was a journalist, a Jewish journalist, who was at this event where people claim they were simply praying.

She went to cover the event. She heard chants of, go back to Europe, aimed at a small but definitely loud group of Jews. She saw Jews being called Satanists. She was herself followed and harassed and chased off a public city sidewalk. And the police at one point went to the counter protesters who were there dressed in Canadian garb and red and white, playing loud music and in fact singing the national anthem. And they were told that they should leave to allow the people there supporting the Islamic regime of Iran to allow them the peace to do what they had

to do. Here is a woman singing the to Donald Trump and therefore a lot of politicians are trying to leverage that to better their electoral potential in the future. I get that. I know that Mark Carney and the Liberal Party have decided all of their eggs are going in the Trump basket because if you can look forward to the looming threat of dealing with Donald Trump, people will not be looking back at the last 10 years.

That's what they want to do. That is how they hope to win this election. Paint Pierre Poliev as in bed with Donald Trump and paint Donald Trump as the only threat that matters to this country as opposed to the fact that the Liberal Party has put us in this weakened position where Donald Trump views us as easy prey. Don't look to the past, look to the future. Don't look at what actually happened. Don't look at the pain you've been going through. Don't look at how little money you have left.

Don't look at the lost productivity. Don't look at the trade that we haven't been able to do. Don't look at the pipelines that haven't been built. Don't look at the crime in our streets. Don't look at the fentanyl on our streets. Don't look at any of that stuff. Look to Donald Trump. He is the cause of your problems and Pierre is

Donald Trump so there you go that is I believe what they are trying to orchestrate right now and so with all due respect back to our mayor yes elbows up but how about elbows up defending the people of Toronto against those who feel that any single one grievance of theirs is more important than the ability of Torontonians to just go about their lives. How about that ma'am? How about you turn your elbows to the people who are taking over our streets and making other Torontonians feel unsafe? That is my simple request of you. If you got your elbows up for anybody, have them up in defense of the people of Toronto.

Back to Donald Trump, when he opens his mouth, we pay attention. Here's what he says on how he changed our election. You add that to this country? What a beautiful landmass, the most beautiful landmass anywhere in the world. And it was just cut off for whatever reason. It would be great. Now, is it liberal? Maybe, but you know, a conservative, until I got

involved, because I don't care who wins up there, I frankly probably would do better with a liberal than the conservative if you want to know the truth. But just a little while ago, before I got involved and totally changed the election, which I don't care about, probably it's our advantage actually. But the conservative was leading against, I call him Governor Trudeau, the conservative was leading by 35 points. So you know, so I don't know about that. I think

Canada is a place like a lot of other places. If you have a good candidate, the candidate's gonna win. Well yeah, and that's my hope. I hope the best candidate wins and you know who I think the best candidate is. There's a reason we fight election campaigns. They are very important. My take at first blush is that this Trump thing is going to lose steam. At some point, people are going to be angry about the lost decade. They will make their voices heard and they will not let others

forget that past is prelude. And what has happened in the past should stick to this liberal party just because you got rid of the just because you got rid of the guy at the top doesn't mean you got rid of the legacy of the party. So we'll have to see Hey, coming up, what is the biggest election issue for you? I want to hear from our listeners next right here on the Ben Mulroney Show. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney Show and welcome back to election 2025 on 640 Toronto. Your vote, your voice. All right.

So we know that the election is coming on April 28th. I put the call out to our listeners before the break. And boy have you answered. I haven't even given you the phone numbers yet. 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225-TALK. I want to know what your biggest issues are that you want to see addressed in this election campaign. And let's start with Jason.

Jason, welcome to the show. What's on your mind? My mind as I reported to your screener was obviously it's the economy stupid Bush would say but an overriding issue is the breakdown of the social fabric in Canada. Yeah, then eroded, you know, little by 1000 cuts under the Trudeau regime. And I don't see it getting better. Yeah. What happened yesterday, he is a lot of theocracy to take over Toronto, basically.

Yeah, I think you're right. It is not a safe place. It used to be a safe place to walk outside. I'm telling my kids, if you can get your education, good, but get out of here. As long as Trudeau and his cabal is in power, it's a dangerous place to be in Canada. Very dangerous. Jason, thank you very much for adding to the conversation. I hope you have a great week. Let's continue this with Tom. Tom, you're worried about national unity.

Well, I'll tell you, if the Liberals win, Albert is gone. If you've been listening to Daniel Smith at all, she's not fooling around anymore. She's given a list of things she wants done, and there ain't no way that the current liberals would ever do it. This is the guy that's lived his whole life, but his philosophy is keep all the oil in the ground, like the net zero, right?

Keep the oil in the ground. Well, so long as it's Canadian oil, he doesn't mind investing in countries where they themselves take the oil out of the ground and build pipelines, just so long as it doesn't happen at home. Well, absolutely. That's the hypocrisy of the liberals. But as soon as the liberals get a couple months, Alberta's gone, Saskatchewan's close by. And Canada won't survive without them. And you'd better be thinking about that, because Canada will not survive. Tom, thank you very much. Martin,

your issue is affordability with seniors? Yeah. Tom, thank you very much. Martin, your issue is affordability with seniors? Yeah, hi Ben. Good morning. I would love to see things a little more affordable for seniors and I believe Pierre is the only one that will listen. Yeah, well, listen, he came out pretty strong at the top of day two saying he wants a 15% reduction in income tax. I don't know if that means across the board or if it's targeted, but regardless, that's a pretty substantial change from the past 10 years, wouldn't you say? Yeah, I would say. I say go, Pierre, go.

Thank you, Ben. Martin, thank you very much. John, what is your biggest issue in this election campaign? The biggest issue would be affordability and transparency. For starters, would the government reduce their actual amount of government by 30% as was ballooned under the liberals? And two, we know Paul Yev is most likely going to win. What is he going to do to drive in new business into our country?

Well, yeah, that's what we need. Yeah, John, let's keep we need. Yeah, so we've seen. Yeah, john, let's let's keep this let's keep this going. So stick with me. So yeah, cost of living is is ridiculously high. If I had to guess based on what I've heard from a guy like, like, like, Pierre Poliev, he wants to reduce the cost how hard it is to start a business, he wants to make Canada the most attractive place in which to invest not just Canadians investing in Canada, but foreign direct investment as well. And, you know, if you lay the groundwork by cutting red tape, cutting regulation, cutting certain taxes on investment and corporate taxes,

then all of a sudden businesses want to set up here as opposed to flee to places where it's easier for them to set up. What do you think about something like that? I think 110%, that's my vote based on. Yeah. The fact that we're so exposed, the US economy is already one dollar, GDP per person is like what, 0.25%,

while Americans is 20%. Yeah. You can see when you go to the grocery stores. And the funny thing is Ben, is I got friends there as left as could possibly be, and they're changing their output, and they're hating on a very right-minded type of individual that's just saying, say, oh, I don't like Trump,

or I don't like Paul Yevon, they're this and that. So what don't you like? You don't like them or their policies? I mean, I don't think so. Well, yeah, look, yeah, John, and thank you for your call, John. But this nonsense of trying to make it all about Donald Trump, I've taken four or five calls already.

Not a single person mentioned Donald Trump. They add real pocketbook issues that stem from policies that have been foisted upon us over the past 10 years. And let's not forget, the last two liberal governments have been minority governments. That was the people telling them, we do not trust you with a majority mandate. At the second kick of the can in 2019, the liberals didn't like that. And so they got into bed with the NDP so that they could govern as if they had a majority and they could ram through policies that most Canadians, in my opinion, did not support. And we find ourselves where we are today.

The liberals of today are saying, don't look back. No, no, don't look back. Look to the future and look to the big bad Donald Trump. He's the cause of all our problems, which I think, look, if you believe that, then I got a bridge to sell you. He is an issue, but he's also an issue because he responds to strength and Canada has self-weakened over the past 10 years, making us easy pickings for a guy like that. Ben, welcome to the Ben Mulroney Show. What's say you? Hey, good morning. Good morning. It's, I hope, under Trudeau and the Liberals, it's been all about freedom of speech and ministry of truth sort of thinking. So whoever can kill Bill C-63, nobody's even talking about it. It's the most important thing to me. And then, of course, how do we rein in $62 billion deficit?

It's going to be tough for either one of them. Well, the way to, in my opinion, and I'm not an economist, I'm just a guy, but you grow the economy. If you have more businesses in this country and you've got more people bringing home bigger paychecks, then by definition, your tax base grows, right? If all of a sudden this country explodes in terms of how much value is created here, then that value translates into more taxes being sent to the government where you can pay down the debt and pay for the social services that I think make Canada the special place that

it once was. You can, any government can declare a policy and say here's a new government program, but if you don't have the ability to pay for it, what have you actually done? You know, you can, any government can declare a policy and say, here's a new government program. But if you don't have the ability to pay for it, what have you actually done? Not a whole lot of good as far as I'm concerned. And thank you for the call, I really appreciate it. Frank, what do you think is the biggest issue

you wanna see addressed in this election campaign? Good morning, Ben. I think the big issue here is effective and competent leadership, because all we've had thus far is, especially during these trying times, is half-assed leadership. There's been an absence of credibility in the leadership and in the cabinet members that were part of the liberal government, and there's been an absence of respectability. And with the last point, Ben, if I could just refer briefly to the fact that when some of the Canadian ministers had

gone down to Washington to meet with Howard Lutnick, Trump had already decided prior to that meeting that he wasn't going to change the tariffs. To me, it's a clear sign that he has no respect for the current and former liberal government. Yeah. And so what do you think though of the argument that, look, there is a, at least in terms of education and resume and life experience, Mark Carney is not Justin Trudeau. Is that enough of a change for you to give them a good faith look? No, no, absolutely not. He may have all the qualifications on paper in terms of his background, his education, he's got his understanding of doctorate in economics, but his political

philosophy and even his character, his credibility. I mean, we've seen it recently where he was effectively impeached by some members of the media. And those are big things for me. It's a character issue that I think is going to be at the front. Yeah, well it should be at the front of the other parties that are running against the liberal leadership. I think credibility, respectability are going to be hugely important. Well thank you very much Frank. I appreciate it. Have a great week. Who do we have next? We got Rocky. Rocky love the name. You're a fighter I imagine imagine. Well, I'm a grumpy old short-balled fat bar boy that's retired. So I guess I'm not going to get into the whole national unity stuff because I'm kind of a simplistic person. But

for once in my life, I would like to see a prime minister in power that actually drove himself into a gas station, pulled the nozzle out, filled up the tank, pulled out his own wallet and paid for that gas with money because he punched the time clock for the man with his sleeve rolled up and did a job. The other thing is we've got senior citizens, we have veterans in this country that have lived their whole lives here, they tax us into this country. Yeah, and are eating and surviving on cat food and we've got We need a line-by-line item of where we send money to foreign places I believe there was something like 35 million or something was spent under the last regime

Oh, yeah, we're birth control in Peru or something $28,000 given to the German government for a little play call. Who's just is it? Yeah, well, I remember I covered that, Rocky. Yeah, I think listen, I think we have to reevaluate how we view it. You know, I think there's a there's two different ways of looking at how we promote Canadian values abroad. I think on one hand, you have what we've been doing for the past 10 years and doling out money that we do not have on

programs and projects that have nothing to do with Canada or our National interest or the values that we actually have as a nation They are identity politics run amok and on the other hand you have hey, let's support our Canadian military Let's invest in that because that is the most effective tool of promoting Canadian values abroad. I want to thank everybody for your calls. I think we're going to keep this going for the next segment. We're going to take more of your calls when we continue. What is your number one election issue? That's next on The Ben Mulroney Show.

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Election 2025 on 640 Toronto. Your vote, your voice. And I don't know what's going on. I don't know. I feel like I'm living in the upside down because there are major news outlets in this country that have taken seemingly what Mark Carney and the liberals have said as gospel, that this entire election is about and exclusively about Donald Trump. I have been asking the listeners of this radio station

what their priorities are, and there has been virtually no mention of Donald Trump thus far, except tangentially. We're going to go back to the calls in just a moment, but let me just remind the people of Ontario, and let's not forget the Ontario Liberals and the federal Liberals, it's been a two-way street in terms of personnel and ideas and staffers for years. They are not the same, but they're the same. And in Ontario, after years of Dalton McGinty, they traded in for Kathleen Wynne saying, we're not the same party anymore. And disaster ensued. Do the people

of Ontario want to do that a second time? You know, what is it? Fool me once, shame on me. I can't even remember. George Bush screwed that up too. We won't get fooled again. I won't get fooled again. Anyway, let's go back to our calls and see if the trend that started in our first segment continues here in the second. Joe, what is the most important issue for you in election 2025? Good morning, Ben. The economy is the most important issue of all my essence. Joe, when you say the economy, when you say the economy, what do you mean? Because there will be those who infer from that. You mean the threat to our economy from Donald Trump? No, no, not at all. It's the Carney and his cabal are going to create a new energy program, energy program that Pierre Trudeau created that almost destroyed the economy back then when I was

my father was talking about it. But now I see it with my own eyes. If he creates a new, any national engineering program, Alberta will leave, they've had it, they'll be the nail in the coffin. Then Alberta will leave first, then Saskatchewan will leave. In all my life, I've never thought, it's never popped into my life that this can be the demise of Canada. I truly, truly believe it. This man is saying, look, I'm doing all this stuff for you, but in the background, they're destroying Canada's energy program. He's a person who wants to cap all the wealth, cap all the gas wealth. This man has three citizenships. Who

hasn't he been loyal to? Yeah. Joe, I want- He's a multinational company to the states. Yeah. I'm truly terrified. Look, I remember when Andrew Scheer had two passports and he got raked over the effing coals,

but for some reason, Mark Carney gets to skate. Thank you very much on that one. Hey, Chuck, welcome to the Ben Mulroney Show. I want you to weigh in and tell me what matters to you in this election. Hey, thanks for taking my call. Longtime conservative supporter. Even as a kid, I didn't say this last time I talked to you, but guess what? What? I have your father's autograph when he went to Midland, Ontario, where my mother was working. I was like bugging her to go, you know,

cause I admired the conservative. I've always been a person with numbers and facts, but I do love with my heart. So I considered myself a centrist. So the two issues, I'll get to the point, is a balanced budget and why not we bring in electoral reform. So we're from Hungary. My parents brought me from Hungary

when I was three years old. There they have a hybrid democracy where one vote, you get two votes, right? One vote goes to the first pass the post by writing like what we have, but then you get a second vote for proportional representation. And because of that, you actually get more voices inside of the house over there. I believe if we had this then the Conservatives wouldn't fear split votes from People's Party of Canada supporters because I'm so tired of this bulb being tossed back and forth and we're not like doing balancing the budget that's not like why don't we have somebody just say let's balance the budget. Yeah. Two votes and

I'll give one vote to the Conservative and i'll give one vote to people's parties so then we can actually bring it back to you know what is the definition of center what might be a little bit far right what might be a little bit far left all right hey chuck thank you electoral reform and balanced budget those are chuck's two priorities let's see what's on the mind of Robert. Robert, what needs to be fixed? Top of mind for you in this election. Hey, Ben, first of all, thank you for your show. Thank you. Thank you. Definitely the economy. And what I mean by that is I want to see my kids being able to dream again. Yeah. I want them to feel that they can go to school, they can get a job, they can succeed in society.

The Liberals have destroyed that after the past nine years. Now, I just listened to a commercial about the Liberals and they said at the end of that, they said, keep Canada strong. Well, wait a minute, Canada is not strong. So if they think this is the answer, it's wrong. Well, it's like when I see all the liberals on their Twitter feed saying, time to get to work. What have you been doing for 10 years if now is the time to get to work? They say time to build. Why didn't you build 10 years ago?

Why'd you put roadblocks up to stop every single nation building infrastructure program that would help us become an energy superpower? You don't get to start the stopwatch whenever it suits you. The stopwatch on the liberal government started 10 years ago. Just because you changed the train engineer doesn't mean you changed the train or the tracks. So thank you very much. I really appreciate that, Robert.

Who do we have next? We've got Daniel. Daniel, what's top of mind for you in election 2025? Hi, good morning. Morning. Kevin O'Leary is known as Mr. Wonderful. I am, I am the Mr. SOB. You know, there's, there's two things I want and it involves the money in my house. Yeah.

And that's the only, aside from health, that's the only thing I care about health and money. I want to see capital gains brought back to 25 percent, up to a quarter million dollars. And Carney's idea, if you remember seven or eight years ago, he presented the proposal of taxing people's primary residence should the value have gone up compared to what they originally paid for. That's on the docket. Yeah, I don't remember that, but we'll have to research it. I'll take you at your word. What do you think about the 15% income tax cut promoted by Pierre Poliev earlier today? It's money in my house and I embrace it.

All right, Daniel. God forbid I pay tax when I sell my house to retire. I will be ballistic. Yeah, yeah, no, you're right, man. Daniel, thank you very much. Let's welcome Daniel to the Ben Mulroney show. What is the number one issue for you, Dan and Nathan? Ah, hi. Yes, Nathan. Thanks for taking my call, Ben. I've been listening to that AM 640 since the

used to be mojo radio. Oh, boy. Long time. Your, your show's awesome. You're really doing a great job. Thank you. First and foremost, I'm going to say that my issue in this election is probably the same issue a lot of people have and it's every issue. It's the economy, it's prosperity. But to echo some of the sentiments of your previous callers and just to add and touch on that, national sovereignty is gone. So if we vote for Pierre Polya, which I hope everybody does, because I think it's the only way forward to maintain our country as a country, you know, Trudeau post nation state with no core identity, well, Trudeau, you got what you wanted and you better wear that hat dude, because you're the one who's

destroyed Canada, you and your party. Mark Carney is out there spitting all this crap about what he's going to do. If he gets elected I'm gonna I'm gonna change it this I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna scrap the carbon tax, dude You have a month. Why don't you go ahead and do that right now? Like why can't you scrap the carbon tax now? You're the prime minister Well, he could he could say he could say that he will he will rescind the the legislation upon the forming a new government He he doesn't have the power to do it anymore,

I don't believe, because we're currently in an election campaign, which makes it a caretaker government. So he doesn't have that authority by convention. But he could go on the record and say, yes, I reduced it to zero, but the first thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get rid of the consumer facing carbon tax immediately.

We still don't know what he's gonna do on the industrial one. He's hemmed and hawed on both sides. He's done the same thing on the on the the emissions and not the emissions cap, the production cap. He said one thing in one part of the country, another in the other. So we really don't know what he stands for. And if he gets elected, here's here's Mike.

If he gets elected and Alberta says we're leaving and Donald Trump says, great, you're welcome. What are we going to do if Alberta says, no, we're a new, we're joining the U.S. What do they think they can do? Yeah. And what if Donald Trump says, by the way, Canada, we're not going to protect you anymore. Yeah. With our military. Which is why, which is, I mean, you've got a guy like you've got a guy like Pierre Poliev, who for years has been beating the drum about beefing up and having more respect for our military. And then meanwhile, you've got the other side that's been doing anything but and they can say they're going to do it, but they haven't done it. So they've had 10 years to do anything they wanted and they haven't done the things they now say

are essential. So that's where I'm coming from and I want to thank everybody for calling in. Riding a bike in the ride to conquer cancer is like being part of humanity's greatest. The money you raise, the time you spend, the energy that you give is helping people live, is giving people hope. And that's just so beautiful. Care of the fire for cancer research. Join the ride at ridetoconquer.ca. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney Show.

I want to change topics right now and hear from you at 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225. Talk in Edmonton where Wayne Gretzky, the single greatest hockey player in the history of the world who's done more for the advancement of hockey around the world than any one individual has a statue, a 950 pound, nine foot, two inch bronze likeness is outside of the arena that honestly would not exist today had he not been the force that he was for so many years in Edmonton. Somebody decided to take some sort of excrement and smear it all over the statue. excrement and smear it all over the statue. There's an article that was written by one of the mainstream media outlets that has a line in it that is laughable on his face. It's unclear if the vandalism has political motivations. Sure, people decided to wake up one day and decide that they didn't like him as a hockey player. Give me an F and break. Of course this is political. Of course it is.

And so my question is that this is no different than when they vandalized Sir John A. MacDonald. You don't have the right to destroy property when you disagree with someone's views. This is intolerance, pure and simple. If you have a grievance, there are ways to express it legally. You don't have the right to stop traffic. You don't have the right to protest to the point where you make people feel unsafe. You don't have the right to key a Tesla. You don't have the right to explode a Tesla. You don't have the right to smear feces on a statue or deface a statue. This is where we are as a society and I frankly have no time for the petulance of those who feel that their grievances are so important that

they can behave in illegal ways. And I'd love to hear from you at 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225-TALK. Do I have blinders on? Am I missing something? If I am, please let me know. Give us a call. But this to me is, we're gonna talk about this later on in the show with somebody who might understand how a mind works about why somebody would feel that they have the right to do something like this. This is, these are people who,

when they don't like the way the world is going, decide, okay, I have the right to deface and obstruct and honestly commit crimes because it makes me feel better. And I don't have time for that level of petulance or insolence or illegal behavior. You are a criminal. If you do things like this, you are a criminal and you should be prosecuted.

This is where the elbows should be up. This is our mayor in this city should be letting the police know that yes, put your elbows up. It's time to fight against this sort of, can I call it anarchy? I'd like to. These are people who believe lawlessness should abide if they somehow are offended. But I'd love to hear from you, because maybe you think I'm wrong. Alex, what do you think? I think this is a larger trend than just one statue or one protest. I think it's part of a larger mindset

that needs to be reset. Yeah, I agree with all of that. I'm getting really tired of all these statues getting defaced. I find it really funny that, I guess, the left wing of Canada or the Liberal Party seems to have been pro-rebootable of all our history and our statues and now is waving the flag so hardly. We need to stop erasing our history. Yeah, and that's a very good point. I mean, all of these people who are calling for elbows

up, the reason that annoys me so much is the loudest voices calling for elbows up were the people who were diminishing our, what it meant to be Canadian, the history that got us to the place where we are one of the greatest countries in the world. Our ability to project those values internationally has been besmirched. I don't take cues on patriotism from those people. You can call me a traitor, you have a myopic and novice and childlike view of the world if you are bold enough to say that to someone like me. And thank you for your call. Lino, welcome to the Ben Mulroney Show.

Hey, Ben, how are you? I'm well, I'm well, thank you. Yeah, so I had a question for you. Why is the political violence or extreme activism, including property damage and setting cars on fire and feces on statues, 99% of the time, excuse the pun, Wayne Gretzky pun, on the left. That's how it feels to me. I haven't done enough research on it. I am sure that there are right-wing extremists or people, maybe they don't have to be the extremist,

but some people on the right who have expressed themselves in violent ways. I condemn that just as much. I find I have no tolerance for that level of intolerance as well. But it does seem, Lino, and I think you're right, that the headlines that we've been reading of late, be it religious, be it political,

be it having something to do with Wayne Gretzky or Elon Musk or Donald Trump, you're right. It does feel like people have given themselves license to step out of the social contract that we all live with to do and say the things that they want to do even if it means breaking the law. And you're right, Lino, I don't understand it. I don't know where they think they have some God-given right to behave like this. Thank you. Thank you very much, Lino. I appreciate it. Who do we have next? We've got Joseph. Joseph, am I missing anything here? Uh, maybe, maybe not. We all agree that it's illegal and it's vandalism, but do you understand where the thoughts come

from when you act a certain way and then there is repercussions to your actions? Well, yeah, well, as we saw, listen, I was around Thornhill. Yeah. And I started doing the Nazi salute. Yeah. Do you think that it's going to just be a okay? Nothing's going to happen to me. Oh, it's my right to do whatever I want. Right Nazi salute, do you think that it's gonna just be, hey, okay, nothing's gonna happen to me?

Oh, it's my right to do whatever I want, right? There probably will be a repercussion for my actions. Well, there should be. I didn't see a whole lot of repercussions for this. But Joseph, I didn't see a whole lot of repercussions for the students who took over campuses for months at a time. I don't see a whole lot of repercussions

for the people who are protesting through residential streets of Jewish communities, making those people feel unsafe in the one place they should feel safe. I was not a fan of the trucker convoy, but there sure as hell were a lot of repercussions for those people for the actions that they took. So I do, you know, that was,

you could suggest that's right wing. There were absolutely consequences for what they did. Not so much for the people on the other side who feel that, you know, they are the progressive enlightened ones. And let's not forget, that is the role that they claim they play. They are the they're the enlightened ones. Everybody else is regressive and troglodytes and and and they talk. You just don't get it. You're too stupid to understand.

I think we've got time for one more call. So let's welcome Fabian. Fabian, tell me what you think on this subject. Hey, Ben. Thanks for taking my call. I see it on both sides, to be honest. Can you give me an example that you see on the right? right? Yeah, Terry Fox back to the convoy. Be facing that statue. You do remember they put a they put a hat on him right then they put a hat on him? No, no, there was pieces and so forth. People were taking a leak and whatever. Okay. All right. I condemn that as well. But don't you think Fabian that those people, those people have a lot of them are in jail, a lot of them have their assets seized, a lot of them are still dealing with it today. I don't know that I've seen anything close to that in terms of consequences on the other

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