The Ben Mulroney Show - Man who immigrated from Iran, tells all newcomers do not bring your poisonous shit from back home here

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

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for joining us on this Monday morning. And you know, we seem to be coming out of a fugue state a moment of national and international insanity where it was almost forbidden. Or people like me to have any opinion on stuff that affected people from other cultural communities. You can't have an opinion on it because you don't understand. Your lived experience prevents you from having an opinion. That's nonsense. That's an absolute nonsense statement. But we all have to endure that because the mob would come after you if you stepped out of line. We seem to be coming out of it. However, that being said, there is very real value in hearing from people

from those communities talking about what's going on in their own communities when the call is coming from in the from within the house. And there is a gentleman who went a little bit viral over the weekend, an immigrant from Iran, speaking about his experiences coming here, what he learned as joining the Canadian family and what he's seeing with this a new wave of newcomers. Hey, tick tock. This is a message to all newcomers to Canada. I came here in 1989 when I was 12 years old. I came from Iran, escaped the Islamic regime. When we came here, it was heavy. And during Christmas time, my teacher said, Hey, Ali, there's a Santa Claus parade

going on in town. You and your family should come. It's really fun. So we ended up going and it was a small town and I spotted my teacher. I went up to my teacher. I said, this is beautiful. There's balloons. There's elves, the Santa Claus. I mean, this is absolutely beautiful. Where's the tanks, missiles, the army? He started laughing because that's how parades were in my country. They were showing off their army and navy and whatever. He said, Ali, kiddo, welcome to Canada. Enjoy your childhood.

Here, it's about kids, family, and happiness. Yeah, he's right. He's right. Listen, I'm not a cultural relativist. I believe certain cultures are better than others. I believe my country is better than Iran. I just do. I know that because it is. I know. And how do I know that? Because people from Iran move to Canada, not the other way around. Okay, that's what it is. The people from Iran wanna be here, the people from here don't wanna go there. And the great irony is, there's a great number of people

who are coming from places like that to a country like this, and they seem hell bent on criticizing it. They seem hell bent on denigrating it and demeaning it. They seem hell bent on taking over our streets and telling us how terrible this country is. When they themselves moved here from somewhere they didn't want to be. Ali continues with his logical train of thought. What my point is, you all are coming over here and bringing the same poisonous s*** that

we had back home over here. We blended in with society in Canada. We didn't get mad at somebody for barbecuing pork. We didn't get mad at somebody flying a rainbow flag. Mind your own business, man. Everyone is human here. We don't discriminate like we did back home. Don't shove your religion down everyone's throat. My mother didn't struggle, escape from Islamic country to come here to have all this poisonous nonsense to follow us. I'll be the first to stand on line to buy you all a plane ticket and send you back home because I know if

my white friends talk like this they'd be called a racist. 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225. Talk those are the phone numbers. Has Ali nailed it right on the head? When you immigrate to Canada, how much of your culture should you leave back home? It's a very good question. You know, my mother's family came over from the former Yugoslavia, they came over with all of their cultural traditions. They came over with their language, they came over with their religion. I remember my youth spent in the Serbian Orthodox Church that my my grandfather helped build in his neighborhood. All the church bake sales in the

basement. It was wonderful, it was wonderful until the the war broke out and all of a sudden the old sort of tribal cleavages broke up those communities. But there already is an Iranian regime. We do not need a smaller version of it here in Canada. I'm not going to apologize for saying that. Let's welcome Tracy to the show. Good morning Tracy, welcome to the Ben Mulroney Show. Good morning, how are you? I'm well, what say you about what Ali said?

I, he's like my new hero. I think he nailed it. Like, and especially speaking from, like he comes from, he came from there. And so like, I think he's got, all his points were so valid and I couldn't agree more. Yeah. I think he nailed it.

Well, thank you very much. And, you know, he makes a good point. And I've seen others make similar arguments where they say, you know, the great irony is the countries that are the most welcoming to immigrants are the ones that are held. By definition, we live up to a higher standard because we're bringing people in

where others are either sending them away or keeping them there and persecuting them. So we are bringing people who are persecuted in their own lands here and they are bringing with them the very thing that they were fleeing. It's the greatest irony of living in the West that we are held to an even higher standard that we hold ourselves to. We're held to a level of standard of perfection, where those countries that they are fleeing are most certainly not. Barbara, welcome to the Ben Mulroney show.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for having me. I did not agree more with that gentleman Ali that so well said. Yeah. And just like you, my father is Serbian Orthodox, he came from married my mother who is German and they came to Canada to build a life, and they did. And they did bring all the traditions. We were at the Serbian Church every Sunday. It was wonderful, yet they were Canadian. And we knew that, and they knew that, but we kept those traditions and those cultures alive in our home. And you know, and and that's wonderful. And I'm still a proud Canadian Canada one, you know, and and Barbara, like I think Ali is probably as proud of his, of his Iranian culture as he is of his

Canadian passport. I mean, that's the duality that makes Canada so special. And it seems to be passport. I mean, that's the duality that makes Canada so special. And it seems to be falling on deaf ears with a certain type of person from a certain age group who's now here. Yep, I totally agree with you totally agree with you. And I'm so glad he spoke up and I hope many more of us do as well. Thank you very much, Barbara. I appreciate it. Let's welcome Leo to the show. Leo Happy Monday.

Happy Monday, my friend. I'm pretty similar to Ali in the sense that I came here when I was eight years old in 1988. And, you know, my parents were able to create a life for us that was fruitful and peaceful and fair for everyone. Yeah. So look, I have these words. Support the country that you live in or just go live in the country you want to support. It was that yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true. You can't you came here for a reason. And and it was because he didn't like where you were before. So by definition is a better place than where you

came from. I don't understand that the venom and the incessant attacks. Hey, David, welcome to the show. What's what say you? Hi, is that me? Yes. Thank you for taking my call. Absolutely. I was just telling you screen it out that I came here when I was five years old in 1975. And Canada has changed so much recently, that it makes me sad to see the way things are going. And I'm sad, sorry to say, but I mean, I've been listening to this guy on YouTube, his name is, what the show is called, Christian Prince, and he's

opened up my eyes so much to what exactly Islam is, and sorry to say, but Islam is the main problem because these people come with this ideology, ideology to change wherever they go, and that's wrong. They should learn how to adapt to our different cultures. And not not try not try to change them by force. Well, David, I thank you for your call. And I don't know that the problem is Islam. I think we've had we've had Muslim immigration into Canada for generations. It seems to be this moment in time where there's a confluence of aggressively woke left

social engineers coupled with certain, and it's not just people from one cultural community or another, there just seems to be this confluence of people who are aggressively trying to take down the very place that they emigrated to because they chose it. I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me. And the standard that we are expected to live up to is an unattainable standard of a perfect nation that does not exist. It does not exist. What did Churchill say about democracy? It's the worst type of government except for all the others?

Well, Canada is the worst country except for all the others. We are the worst country in the world except for every other country on earth. And I'll die on that hill. Hey, we're gonna take a quick break, but more of your calls if you're on the line, don't go anywhere. We're gonna continue this conversation

on the Ben Mulroney Show. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. And in our previous segment, we were highlighting a gentleman online named Ali who came over from Iran when he was much younger. And he was taking issue with newcomers to Canada. In his view, trying to tear the place down, trying to burn the place down. And he suggested he would be the first in line to buy them a ticket to go back to where they came from if they didn't like it here. So we put the question to our listeners, is is Ali onto something is the criticism of Canada by those who have chosen to move here to too big too great. Let's talk to Naeem Naeem. Thank you so

much for calling into the Ben Mulroney show. Okay, Ben. Good morning. Good morning. So for the most part, I think I'm in line with what Ali had to say. And I kind of I'm in line with some of the sentiments of the previous callers. But the last caller really got me worked up because can I be an immigrant who comes to this country and be loyal to this country? And I agree if you if you if a country is worth living in, it's gotta be worth standing up for. However, no country is perfect. So if I'm an immigrant and I'm critical of something

that a quote unquote indigenous Canadian may also be critical of, how is there a differentiation there? Like what Ali said that, you don't be critical of putting up a rainbow flag, you don't be critical of putting up a rainbow flag, you don't be critical of somebody barbecuing pork. I'm East Indian, I've grown up my whole life here. I've had people who were critical of the food we cooked and the holidays we celebrated. And that was from quote unquote Indigenous Canadians. I mean, this is, this

is a human thing, right? Like when we have a magnificent country where you have so many cultures, I think it's never going to be seamless. But the last caller to make this all about just Muslims, I'm sorry that this has no place. And I think you need to intervene. Like those type of callers cannot intervene. Oh, I did.

I told him myself. It's just the fact that that's like the third time I've heard a caller in the past week go on that path like it's a This is like, you know what? None of that's going to be very fruitful. No, I agree with you I'm East Indian. I'm Muslim and I'm East Indian and I don't call come here and call for change You do call for a happy medium. Yeah, that is the middle moderate ground that most people follow So I think that that's it's like like, essentially, what I'm asking is who gets to be critical of the country they live in?

Well, thank you, Naeem. And I think everybody gets to be critical of the country they're in. That's, that's how you fight for change. But what I think we're witnessing is, is a wholesale takeover of our cities and our streets by people who don't want conversation, and they don't want debate and they do not want to work through the proper channels where that change is exercised. They want they want to bully their way into getting what they want. And the irony is what they want in a lot of cases is a change to our country that

makes it look more like where they came from. And I don't have time for that. There is great social change can come by working through the system. Great social change can also come from protest as well. But I do not think that the wholesale protest of Canada as a culture and Canada as a force in the world is useful. Canada is by definition one of the great countries that has ever been in the history of the world. That does not mean that I am saying that it is not without its failings, it is not without its skeletons in the closet, it is not without

the sins for which it has to atone. That is not what I'm saying and far too many people take one thing and say, well, if you say that, you automatically mean something else. I don't play that game. Let's welcome Mark to the show. Mark, thank you so much for calling in. Yeah, good morning. How are you doing?

I'm well, thank you. Yeah, I mean, listening to this, and Ollie was perfect on what he said and everything I agreed with him. And the unfortunate problem is that we don't have any substantial support from local governments, from municipal governments, from federal governments

to support this, the stealing, this ire that we all have that what we're watching on a daily basis. And it just seems to go on deaf ears to them. And they're saying, well, it's their democratic right to do so. And it's their willingness right to do so. And it's their it's their willingness to just devise, you know, to voice their opinion, but they're voicing hatred and visceral

pain towards other people that should not be allowed. And that should be stopped immediately, instead of handcuffing the police not to be able to do their job. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think you're right, Mark. And I think when you add to it, the fact that there's there's been a constant chipping away at the sort of the moral high ground that we as Canadians rightly occupy when it comes to, you know, what is right and what is wrong. By and large, Canada stands for better things in Iran,

in terms of governments and in terms of the sort of the national values. By and large, Canada stands for better things. We just do. And no one's gonna tell me I'm wrong on that. And if you wanna try, go right ahead. But there has been a chipping away so that to say one is Canadian and one upholds Canadian values,

well, that means that you uphold genocidal, colonialist, imperialist values. How can we fight for what we believe is is right? When we have been the drum has been beat for so long that simply to say you're standing up for Canadian values automatically means you're wrong. And that that has been done, I believe, by design by a certain type of social engineer. And I'm not here for it. I am here, however, to welcome Steve to the show. Steve, thanks so much for calling in. Hi, good morning. Thank you for having me. I think you're one of the things that we have to realize that we're in an ever

changing situation. I'm the first nation wouldn't recognize Canada as what it is. There was a time when gay and lesbian lifestyle wasn't accepted, it is now accepted. So we have, and I'm not speaking about a country or a different type of religion, but we have to be open to dialogue. And we have, and I'm not speaking about a country or a different type of religion, but we have to be open to dialogue. And we have to be able to communicate and then seek from there what are the best values, because as you rightly said, we're not perfect. And there are different values that we can incorporate and then we can make Canada a better place for all of us. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And nothing gives me greater pleasure or satisfaction

than to have a conversation with somebody with whom I disagree. And I'm always open to hearing an argument that could change my mind. And I do not believe that the tone and the tenor of the conversations that are happening in the streets of our cities wants to engage in conversation.

They wanna shout down their opponents. And I'm sorry, this great countries like Canada are great because of the collision of ideas. That's why we're great. That's why we're better. And if you're afraid of having that conversation, it's because you know your argument would lose. So rather than engage in conversation

with someone who will beat you in your converse in your argument, you're going to shout them down and make them scared to even say what they think they think. Let's welcome who do we have we've got Ian Ian, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks, Ben. You know, my father moved here in 1967 from Scotland. You wouldn't think it's a war torn country. They didn't have a war for many many centuries I always thought he came here for better work, but I was over for my cousin's wedding in 1986

England was playing Argentina in the World Cup. You might remember the game. It was the hand of God goal by Maradona When that ball went in the whole pub I was in erupted in cheers When that ball went in, the whole pub I was in erupted in cheers, including my cousin sitting across the table from me who had fought Argentina in the Falklands War previously. And I asked my Uncle John, why are you cheering for a country you just fought in a war? And he replied with a lot more colorful language than this. We've been fighting English for a thousand years. When I went home, my dad wasn't on the trip and I told him the story. He says, that's why you're a Canadian.

He says, I had to get away from that stuff. Well, thank you, Ian, I wanna leave it there. But I wanna thank you so much for your call. And that's what it's all about. You bring over the best parts of your country and leave the garbage at home. She has partial retrograde amnesia. She can't remember the last eight years. Tuesdays. What are the odds I get my memories back? It's the brain. Nobody knows. A new series coming

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