The Ben Mulroney Show - Mark Carney has ratcheted up the smears and lies in this election campaign

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

Guests and Topics: -This Election campaign has gotten ugly with smears and lies with Guest: Regan Watts, Founder Fratton Park Inc., former Senior aide to minister of finance Jim Flaherty If you enjoyed the podcast, tell a friend! For more of the Ben Mulroney Show, subscribe to the podcast! https://globalnews.ca/national/program/the-ben-mulroney-show Follow Ben on Twitter/X at https://x.com/BenMulroney Enjoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Conditions apply to all benefits. Visit PCFinancial.ca for details. We're getting close to the end of this campaign. I've said this before, that it just feels to me that with the amount of venom and misdirection and misinformation coming out of the liberals, it doesn't feel to me that those are the tactics of a front runner campaign. I don't know what their internal polls are telling them, but doesn't feel to me that those are the tactics of a front runner campaign. I don't know what their internal polls are telling them, but doesn't feel

to me like these are the tactics of people comfortable with seemingly what looks like a very big lead. And here to maybe challenge that and to drill down into some of the stories that are bubbling up on the campaign trail. We're joined by my friend in yours, Regan Watts of Fratton Park Inc. He's also a former senior aide to the late great Jim Flaherty. Regan, welcome back to the show. Well, it's almost time.

All right. So Mark Carney, and the liberals, as I said, they seem to have resorted to full out smears and I'm, I'm not a politician. So I'm going to call them lies on the campaign trail. Let's listen. He draws his inspiration. He draws his inspiration from President Trump. He copies his ideas. His first instinct, Polyev's first instinct when our nation was attacked was to call Canada stupid.

It was our fault. He even chooses, Pierre Polyev even chooses to be willfully blind to the growing threats facing Canada by refusing for some reason to get his security clearance. What's he hiding? I don't know. Yeah, lost to unpack there. Let's not forget that he asked, Mark Carney asked point blank why about the security issue on during the during the English language debate

and he got a fulsome good faith answer and he's pretending like he didn't hear it. Meanwhile, Sean Fraser, the man who was out, then he was in because he saw it as politically opportunistic to get back into the House of Commons, said this, he said, Pierre is in my riding tonight, hosting one of his Trump style rallies.

If you wanna help make sure I'm there to take him in at the House after the election, chip in to help our campaign. Never mind the fact that he's unfairly besmirching anybody who shows up at those rallies. It's factually inaccurate. So I've now said a lot. Time for you to comment, my friend. Well, Ben, there's death and taxes as two certainties in life.

And the third that many of your listeners will know is that the liberal parties will throw the kitchen sink at conservatives no matter where we are in the campaign, no matter where they are in the polls. You know, Sean Fraser, that beacon of high political, moral turpitude coming out and throwing this type of nonsense. And I'm calling it nonsense because it is, not because Mr. Fraser's a bad person, he's not. He's actually a very nice man. And I know you've met him. I like him personally quite a bit.

To shake his hand is to enjoy his presence. But this is a man, when he talks about Trump style rallies, let's go to Mr. Fraser's record. He is the man who destroyed the Canadian consensus on immigration when he was immigration minister. If people are upset about housing and issues related to immigration in this country, guess what? Mr. Fraser is the one who oversaw the complete collapse of Canadian immigration and the consensus around it in this country. He was also the Minister of Housing who, lo and behold, didn't get any houses built. And so when Mr. Fraser starts throwing the kitchen sink at Mr. Poliev, as Mr. Carney did in the comments there earlier, it tells you a couple of things.

It tells you that Liberals only have one campaign. They want Canadians to think that they're hopeful, but the liberals only ever have one campaign, which is to throw the kitchen sink and see what sticks. And so when they say things like Trump rallies and they're talking about other social issues, I mean, it took a little while for the liberals to get to social issues on this campaign, but I'll finish as I started, Ben.

Deaf taxes and the Liberal Party of Canada scaremongering are only the three only certainties that you'll find in Canadian political life. You know, the story that surprised a lot of us this morning was that the that Mark Carney misrepresented the phone call his initial phone call on the 28th of March with Donald Trump. And the story popped up on French Radio Canada, which means it took a little bit of time for it to bubble up and translate into English, but it does seem to be Finding finding traction at least on social media. He claimed that in that initial call Donald Trump respected can recognize Canada's sovereign national sovereignty turns out That's not what happened on the call and that was the whole thing like that's what kicked things off for him

Look how much he disrespected Pierre or Justin Trudeau. Look how much he now respects the new guy. So he started the whole thing on either a misrepresentation or a lie or a miscommunication. I shouldn't be surprised, but I am disappointed. Well, Mr. Carney, you know, this is not the first time he's had like a really strange relationship with the truth um you know there's any number of places we can go here Ben uh and by the way like Mr Carney like Mr Fraser is a very nice man to shake his hand and to be in his presence is is enjoyable he's a nice

man but you know he lied about this interaction with, according to the reports in the media today. It's such a strange thing for him to lie about because you would think that the Liberal Party of Canada, who back to my comments earlier, only know how to run a kitchen sink campaign. That is, they'll throw everything at Canadians to scare them away from voting conservative. This is, you know, you would have thought that they would have wanted to leak out that this 51st state talk continued. No, no, no, no, I disagree. I disagree. You would have thought that they would have wanted to leak out that this 51st state talk continued. No, no, no, no, I disagree.

I disagree. I think I think they they needed to show that this was the guy who was going to command the respect of the White House. As a matter of fact, he wasn't going to talk to him until he got that respect, but he had to do something. And so when he when the respect was not given to him that he thought was due, he created it out of whole cloth because I can tell you in a lot of the interactions I had with liberals on social media, they hung on to that like grim death. That was the brass ring that they were grabbing at.

Look how things are different. Look at what he's done. Canada is now respected by the White House. Turns out not at all. Well, would this be the first time a liberal political leader had challenges with telling the truth on an issue that was of serious consequences to the country? Of course not. I don't understand why he's not being straight up with this. It's really strange. It speaks to some of the other issues around his personal financial holdings. I don't begrudge a guy who's made 50 or 100 million bucks like Mr. Carney has, but my goodness, we should know what the guy owns before he becomes Prime Minister. Not to mention his, you know, his his expertise in tax planning.

You know, it's, it's, it's not every day people set up multi-billion dollar investment funds out of a bike shop in in Hamilton, Bermuda, but here we are. So it's part of a pattern for Mr. Carney. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't know why he's doing it. I think Canadians would just appreciate it if folks were straight up with them. And for better or for worse, we need more more straight talk, not less. I think I think one of the reasons he's not telling us what he owns is because we're Canadians to see how what he's actually worth. They would get sticker shock. They would reinforce it. He really is very successful and good for him. I never begrudge anybody their success,

but there is a certain type of person that's lining up to vote for the liberals who may think twice when they realize that he's worth 40, 50, 60 million bucks. But that's a speculation on my part. And of course, it's speculation because he's not giving me any data. I do want to go to his, the, the undisclosed savings that are referenced in the platform. And well, let's listen to this exchange between a reporter and Mark Carney. They're saying your plan with the $28 billion of savings could lead to cuts. So how do you convince voters in places like this,

progressive voters, that they can trust you with their vote? I think, Alex, if I may, one of the things that's very important, there's a few things. The biggest thing in this election is who's going to stand up to President Trump. We're going to send Pierre Pauliev or me to face President Trump in those negotiations. You go from undisclosed savings to Donald Trump. I mean, it's, it's, we're not having a serious conversation here, Regan, as a country, at a time where we should.

He's, somehow the liberals have managed to convince a significant amount of people that, no, sure the streets aren't safer, sure the drug problem isn't better, sure our streets aren't crumbling, sure our hospitals aren't paid for, and we're sure our military is falling apart, but Donald Trump, Donald Trump is the problem.

Explain this to me. Well, Ben, I hate to harp on the same point three sections in a row, but death taxes and the Liberal Party and Kitchen Sinks are synonymous. They have one campaign, which is, you know, they are the ones that are prepared to stand up to Donald Trump and that is speaking to an electorate that is motivated to vote for them. I think it's reckless that they've got this obsession with Trump because I think there's more important issues, but it's highly effective. And let's face it, the liberal campaign itself has not been spectacular. These have not, you know, Mr. Carney is not lighting up crowds with his pros or his vocal prowess. And their ads have not been great, but they have zeroed in on this issue. And President Trump is an issue that motivates their voters. So I have to tip my chapeau. Mr. Carney, Mr. Carney's message discipline and I think that show

Reagan, we're gonna leave it there. Thank you very much, my friend. Merci, much. See you later. Thank you very much, my friend. Merci, mon chum. See you later. Enter at homenetwork.ca slash watch and win for your chance to win big. Amazing! Ha! The small details are the difference between winning and losing. Watch and win with Renovation Resort on Home Network.