The Ben Mulroney Show - No bail for a non-violent crime yet home invasion suspects get bail? huh??

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

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Hey, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining us. Okay, so I wanna talk about a little interaction that I had this morning. And I hope that my friends who work at City Hall are listening. So I'm driving into work, as I do. And I'm at an intersection where I have to cross four lanes

of traffic. And there's a stop sign, right? So I really have to edge out. And I've got to look to my left and look to my right. And by and large, when I drive in, not a lot of traffic, but sometimes it can come in waves. And I am paying attention to everything. And there are there's a there is a wave of traffic coming from my left, right? So that so that would what would be what I would hit first would hit me first. No cars coming from the right. However, on a on an elevated, really,

However, on an elevated, really one of those beautiful and robust bike lanes that I've seen in the city, there is a cyclist who's traveling at a tremendous rate of speed coming from my right, so farther south. And I think to myself, okay, I can make it across, but I have to assume that this cyclist doesn't know that I have the right of way. And I have to believe that this cyclist is going to,

I don't know, forget that his bike comes with a brake and forget that he doesn't have an unimpeded right to forward progress. And so I hit the gas and I accelerate fairly quickly to get through and I am well past this man on his bicycle. When I look back in my rear view mirror, I'm about, I don't know, 50, 60 feet well past him when he crosses where we would have intersected and he flips me off. He flips me off because I was right. This man doesn't understand the rules of the road. Nobody explained to him when they gave him his own dedicated lane of traffic.

Nobody explained to this cyclist who didn't have to pay taxes. Taxes didn't go up when this bike lane was built. Didn't have to register. Doesn't have to get licensed, just told, enjoy, do what you want. It's all yours for the taking. He assumes because we have created this world for him, that he has the right of way, never has to stop and can ignore all the rules of the road. I've said it before in order for me as a driver to not kill somebody when I'm driving. I have to assume that at every interaction with a pedestrian and a cyclist, every interaction,

they will break every single rule of the road every time I interact with them because the second that I believe and assume that they know the rules of the road, that's when I kill one of them. So that's my burden to bear, not his, obviously, because why would he behave like he could die at any moment? That's my burden to carry. And so I say this as a plea to the city. Can you start some education campaigns for all of us? Please, I would love to know.

Can you please, when you're setting up these new bike lanes and when you're putting in new signage and when you're changing the dynamic of how we interact on the road, could you please maybe educate everybody as to who has the right of way and when? Because the roads are more dangerous today, not because drivers are more careless, but because you have complicated the dynamic of what used to be a very simple interaction. You've thrown a bike lane to my right when I want to take a right. So now rather than just make sure I'm not going to get t-boned on the left, I have to make sure that a e-bike going 50 kilometers an hour isn't going to t-bone me, even though I have the right of way.

You stop short all the time and you put in these new systems and never educate the public as to what those systems mean to them. And in my humble opinion, that's why we have more dangerous roads today. I know it's very easy to blame careless drivers. Very easy to do that when you're the ones that are complicating the lives of drivers, making the roads far more complex than they were when we were tested on those roads.

And you expect us to divine how it's supposed to operate. Knowing full well, pedestrians do not stop once they start walking ever. And cyclists feel that they have an unfettered right and they never have to use their brake. Like that's just a fact. So my plea to you is educate us all. You're the one setting up the rules.

It'd be really great if you could just figure out a way how when you complicate the roads, educate us as to what our rights are, who has the right of way, who needs to stop, so that we can actually all coexist together. That's my humble piece of, my humble request for this morning. I'm sure it'll fall on deaf ears

because it's far easier to just blame aggressive drivers. All right, we've got a lot that we're looking at today, including a very significant voice in the legal field in the United States thinking that at the end of all of this, Sean Diddy Combs could be a free man and in short order. And so we'll talk about that a little bit later. Also, we've got Chris Alexander on the show. He served as the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration from July 2013 to November 2015 under Stephen Harper. And we are going to talk about, well, look, if you needed any more evidence that the liberals really screwed up our immigration

system, we've got it for you today I don't think anybody needs it, but we're gonna give it to you And if it doesn't make you shake your head chuckle or your blood boil Then you're not living in the same Canada as most of us are You'll remember that There was the disgusting De-facing of the Holocaust Memorial in. And then we found out that it was a lawyer who worked for the city of Ottawa who did it.

He wrote in big red letters, feed me. And so it was a lawyer who did that. He was fired by the city. And then we find out that of all people, of all people who've been charged with crimes in this country, his defacing of that memorial was enough to deny him bail. Have you ever heard me say somebody was denied bail? No, you haven't. Because I could say I have never reported on

something like that. And the fact that it wasn't a violent crime is perplexing. The part of me who thinks that anti-Semitism has gone too far, way too far in this country. And it's about time that we pushed back and showed people that there are consequences for your words and your actions and your deeds. That part of me is very happy, very happy. But when I compare it to the Huntsville armed home invasion on Canada Day, so there was, this was just a weird one. Six young men went into the Muskoka area and perpetrated a home invasion and then caused chaos throughout the region of Huntsville with Highway 11 being closed for hours.

And they did a manhunt. They eventually arrested all six of the dudes. Those guys, and three of those guys were given bail. And this one is just a head scratcher. We're gonna be following this one because home invasions in Muskoka are few and far between. And the fact that these six guys were from the GTA and had to drive hours to get up there,

leads me to suspect that it was a targeted home invasion. Like they picked that house for a reason. And so we don't know anything, but the fact that these guys, these violent criminals caused chaos in that area and three of them got bail. But the guy with the spray can in Ottawa, he was denied bail. Like I said, I'm glad the guy was denied bail.

But if he's sitting in jail waiting trial, why not these other guys? And one of those guys who was denied bail, one of them, who was not denied bail rather he we found out that he was on bail for two other uh two other crimes so he commits a crime is out on bail commits another crime out on bail then commits this crime out on bail oh not yet sorry the axe hangs thank you mike drolet the axe hangs. Thank you, Mike. Drill. A the axe hangs, but it does not fall. But if past is prologue, what do you think is going to happen?

Third time, third time's a charm or maybe three or three times and you're out on bail. We have three strikes and you're out on bail. That's what that's what I think is going to happen. So we're living in crazy times. We're living in crazy times. And it would be nice if a little sanity was restored to this, this system. Our, our prime minister has a lot on his plate. He's got a lot of mistakes from his predecessor to undo. This should be top of mind. or help. If you've been following the news, like really following it, you know how exhausting it can be. Politics, conflict, uncertainty. It's a lot to carry. And for many men, there's this expectation to stay calm, stay in control and not talk about how it's affecting you. But the truth is, you're allowed to feel overwhelmed. You're allowed to say, I'm not okay right now. And trust me, I have been there. Whether it's the state of the world, stress at home, or just feeling like you've got to have it all together and have all the answers, you don't have to hold it in. BetterHelp is here to help with the world's largest network

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And smurfette. That's how it's done, boys. Smurfs, only in theaters July 18th. The way it looks like to me is all the crime has been done in the GTA and the criminals here are now looking for new grounds on which to hunt. And they've moved north to cottage country in Huntsville. Six youths, and actually not youths,

some of them were, only one of them was under 18. But they got in the car and they went to Huntsville and they found a house, or maybe they knew the house that they were going to do a crime in and they did a home invasion. And they caused chaos through the area, closing down the highway for a big chunk of time, as well as taking resources away from where they were probably needed and causing a man

hunt for hours. Ultimately they scooped them all up and then they promptly let three of them away. So I want to hear from you 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225-TALK. I guess one of the questions I have for you is does this maybe signal a turning point? Is this a flashpoint that will maybe make people pay more attention? Big cities come with their own problems. Big cities have big problems and maybe one of those problems is we have crime and so people are more permissive about it here. But when those criminals start leaving their traditional hunting grounds and going to new fresh areas, like quiet, sleepy cottage country, maybe that's the thing that's going to cause the powers that be to say, let's take a look.

I'm dubious about that. But maybe it is. Hey, Ted, welcome to the Ben Mulroney show. Ben, hi, Ted. Good morning, Ben. Good morning. I just want to let you know your breath of fresh air in Toronto. I love your show. Well, thank you very much. So what do you think is going on here in the fact that these GTA criminals got in the car and went to cottage country?

Well, it's, I mean, it's ridiculous, but, you know, my wife is mourning to watching the news and I just said, I don't want to watch it. It's just a repeat. Every day is basically the same thing. Somebody's committed a major crime. You look into their records and they've had, they've been off on bail at least once, if not twice. And there was that story the other day

with the teenagers caught with all these major weapons, like military grade weapons. They could be playing in Ukraine with these weapons. And they're all out on bail as well. I mean, it's the same story every day. It's a good thing though that we have all of those gun laws on the books because that's certainly stopping these guys from getting guns, right?

He says cynically. No, I appreciate the call, Ted. Thank you very much. And look, I had a moment of clarity this morning, every time, every now and then, sort of you're in the middle of these reports day in and day out. And then sometimes you have a moment

that gives you perspective. And I looked over at Mike Jorolet, my producer, and I said, in the history of my life, I do not remember talking about like crime on the streets of Canadian cities, anywhere close to what we're talking about like crime on the streets of Canadian cities anywhere close to what we're talking about now. I genuinely don't remember it. It's as if we're talking about a different country and it's not and it's happening in a short period of time and we need to get it under control. Hey Ken, thanks for calling and happy Thursday. Same to you, pleasure to talk to

you. Yeah so I live in in barrier. I've lived up here 15 years. Yeah. We had in years ago, we used to have a lot of redneck crime. They call it, you know, people steal tractors. Yeah. And in the last probably five years, it's gotten bad. We get the odd murder up here. domestic, that kind of thing. Yeah. And this thing in Huntsville, from what I've been told from friends, I've talked to you in the know, this was a kind of thing. And this thing in Huntsville, from what I've been told from friends I've talked to who are kind of in the know, this was a drug related thing. They went into the house looking for drugs. They thought there were drugs on premises along the music comes along with that is weapons

and cash. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. But I was telling your producer there that on Friday night, our local mall, Georgia mall, we had a Michael Hill jewelry store robbed. Four guys went in at 8.30. Smash and grab, huh?

Smashed it up, yeah. Yeah. And they think they're the same guys who did the robbery in Markham about an hour before. Yeah. And the same guys who robbed the Oakville store last night, Michael Hill again in the Oakville mall. They think it's the same group of three,

of like of these guys, four guys. And of course we, we, we, we, we'll never know because we've created a, a, a society where it's completely acceptable to cover your face, wear a hoodie at all times, wherever you are. Like that to me, you want to make, you want to make it harder to do crime, make it illegal to behave that way in public spaces. Take your mask, like honestly, make it illegal because it's clear. You know what it is? It's like having, it is illegal to have the tools to say break into a house. If you are found with a lock picking kit, that's illegal.

So it's not the act of breaking into the house using a lock picking kit. It's the simple act of owning it is illegal. So how about extending that to covering your face so it's harder to identify you? If you're doing that, it is reasonable to assume you're going to commit a crime, especially if you do it in a mall. To me, it should be illegal, you should be arrested if you are wearing a hoodie and a mask and probably gloves Walking into a mall the second that happens you are handcuffed and you are arrested for a crime That's it. And let the courts sort this stuff out. Like that's as far as let's test this stuff in court Sorry, I've gone off on a tangent. You guys have called in. Let's welcome John into the conversation

Hey, John. Hey, Ben. How's it going? Fire it up. Listen, it's obvious this, you know, this letting people on bail for crimes, especially home invasion. I mean, how much worse does it get? Your home is invaded.

You're terrorized. It's unbelievable but the bigger question around this but i want to talk about it how does the government time and time again when clearly ninety nine percent of the people are or you know don't agree with this kind of injustice yeah how do we this when the government outright doesn't fix a basic problem of safety i mean that's one of the top, you know,

there's safety healthcare education. You know, these top three things, if they can't fix this, like what recourse do we have? Do we have it? So Doug Ford, I think had enough a few, about a week or 10 days ago, and he announced that he was gonna be building, increasing the capacity in the provincial jail system. So that's that by I think by 2026 there's going to be a massive

amount of more bandwidth for these criminals to be housed. Three or four years ago. But you got you got to change you got to change the criminal justice system and that starts with the changes to the criminal code. And but it's also it's an attitudinal shift as well. Like it's this belief that our criminal justice system needs to err on the side of rehabilitation. I'm fine with rehabilitation, but I want, in cases like these that we report on every time, I want incarceration.

I want lessons to be taught, not just to the criminal, but to the potential criminals who are paying attention, who say, oh, you know what? If I do that crime, I'm going to get six months. Uh, and, and, and I'm going to be able to complete that at home. No, no, no, no, no. I want you in a, you know, a 10 by 10, a box for years so that the next guy knows that that's what he's lined up for. I want this to scare people. Uh, we've got time. Well, line one, let's go to Paul. Paul, welcome to the show.

Hey, Ben. Yeah, I live in Peterborough and there's a small town of about 5,000 people. It's called Keen. Very small town. They have one financial institution, a credit union. And last month, it was robbed, armed robbery by three youths from Brampton. Um they got away with the money but the OPP were able to catch them. So definitely criminals from the GTA are targeting small towns and rural areas. I mean, it's getting out of control. Yeah. Um and they were armed with guns and their youths.

Yeah, and again, that loophole, that permissiveness that we've allowed for years of like, well, they're kids and so we've got to treat them differently. No, no, no, not anymore. That is being exploited. That is being perverted. And we've got to shut that down. Like honestly, if, okay, so it's okay to do these. If you're a kid, let's bring more kids into the and turn them into the criminal element. No, if that's the case,

then then the reason for the criminal the Youth Criminal Justice Act has been perverted, and we need to fix it. It's as simple as that if they're not behaving as kids, we they shouldn't be treated as kids. Let's welcome Joe. Joe, thanks so much for calling.. What do you think? Joe, you there? Yeah, I'm here. I was telling your screener that these guys for sure knew where they were going. They weren't going to a log cabin and still bait and tackle. You're talking about million dollar cottages up there. They're not really cottages, you know, their compounds,

million dollar cottages up there. They're not really cottages, you know, they're compounds, second homes for a lot of people. So there's a lot of people with money that they probably targeted someone that they knew from Toronto. It was worth the drive to cottage country. Yeah, especially because three of them got bail. And so of course, I mean, that's a gamble that you're willing to take if the prizes if the prizes is right, right? Of course, we've got time real quick for one more call. And let's take Nick Nick, you got about 15 seconds to make a case. Hey, Ben, the devil lives everywhere.

Paul and Carla Bernardo certainly prove that. And just because it's a rural community doesn't mean that there is a crime. Well, we're telling you, yeah, no, but the fact that the GTA the fact that that crime is coming from downtown speaks to I don't know what it speaks to. But I think they've done all the crimes they can in the GTA. And now they're looking for new hunting grounds. I thank you for the call. . one right now. Lease the 2025 kicks for the equivalent of $65 weekly for 48 months. Hurry into your local dealer today. S front wheel drive for 280 monthly with 3,495 down at 3.49%.

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