The Ben Mulroney Show - No Mr. Prime Minister... The protests will not stop, because this was never about Gaza
Episode Date: January 17, 2025No Mr. Prime Minister... The protests will not stop, because this was never about Gaza If you enjoyed the podcast, tell a friend! For more of the Ben Mulroney Show, subscribe to the podcast! https://...globalnews.ca/national/program/the-ben-mulroney-show Follow Ben on Twitter/X at https://x.com/BenMulroney Enjoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. Thank you so much for spending a little bit of your Friday with us.
Justin Trudeau was was making comments yesterday. I think he was in Windsor. And he was asked, he was speaking about the Team Canada approach to the
tariff threat by Donald Trump, taking issue with the likes of Danielle Smith and Kevin O'Leary.
And he called upon Pierre Poliev to say, who do you stand with? Do you stand with Canada?
Or do you stand with Danielle Smith, Kevin O'Leary, and ultimately Donald Trump?
Now this is an abdication of leadership.
This is a failure of leadership.
And it is beneath the prime minister of our country.
For him to claim that Danielle Smith, by standing up for her constituents in Alberta, and simply taking issue with a policy decision, whether you agree with her or not, to suggest that that is un-Canadian.
a man who is trying to destroy the country. It is it's a it's a very sorry position to take, but it's it should be unsurprising, because the liberal government for the past 10 years, nine years, has empowered itself by pitting us against each other. It's us versus them. It's you're either with us, or you're a racist, you're either with us, or you're
a misogynist, you're either with us, or you're a Nazi, you're
either with us, or you're regressive, you're either with
us, or you're with Donald Trump. So we've seen this time and
time, and time again. Why don't we listen to what Justin
Trudeau had to say?
I think it's very clear that right now Pierre Poliev, who wants to be Prime Minister for
all Canadians, has a choice to make.
Either he stands up to fight for all Canadians alongside all premiers and the federal government
that are doing that, or he chooses to stand with Danielle Smith, Kevin O'Leary, and ultimately
Donald Trump.
Now Kevin O'Leary is working on a plan to bring a $70 billion
investment into Canada in the form of an AI IT park. That's
what Kevin O'Leary is doing. Trying to bring $70 billion
into the country. That to me is a pretty sizable commitment to his his
country. And he's working on it with Danielle Smith. To suggest
that having a policy difference is un-Canadian is I'm just
getting tired of it. I'm getting tired of it. But now I want to
hear from you at 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225 talk because with the
with the possibility of a ceasefire coming into effect
probably today, and some of the remaining hostages who have been
held by the disgusting terrorists in Hamas,
in their terror caves and terror tunnels.
With that possibly them coming home as early as Sunday,
Justin Trudeau mused and he hoped that the ceasefire
will turn down the temperature in Canada.
And hope is always such a strong policy.
It's always great to base everything on hope.
But but the the Hamas supporters have said very clearly that that will not happen.
Absolutely not. That will not happen.
They protested in front of the Israeli consulate in Toronto.
And they also blocked Rideauulate in Toronto. And they also blocked
Rideau Street in Ottawa. Coincidentally in front of
indigo books which is owned by a Jew. the creation of Palestine from the river to the sea.
Our dear and beloved people of Gaza deserve so much more than a sea fire and we owe it to them to carry the struggle forward. Free, free, free.
I don't want to hear the rest of this. That's garbage. Yeah, so there you go. All the
terrorist dog whistles in there. So you want to you want to dismantle a democracy. And so
you're not you're not going to stop until Israel has been
dismantled until they have been driven into the sea.
So okay, so that that that's what you're saying. That's that's
that's super. And so but that's really not what you're saying.
What you're saying is you are going to continue your
intimidation of of Jews across the country. That's what you're saying. What you're saying is you are going to continue your intimidation of of Jews across
the country. That's what you're going to do. And our prime
minister hopes hopes that the temperature will get turned
down. No, it won't get turned down because you've allowed
this to happen. Because you've you've called Netanyahu a war
criminal, you said you would arrest him were he to set foot
in Canada. That's what you've said.
You've given license to these people.
Of course they want, they want the dismantling of the Zionist state.
It's being run by a war criminal, according to our, our leadership in Ottawa.
You've, you've made space for them at the table and you've said that your
grievances are valid.
So of course, of course they're going to keep doing this.
grievances are valid.
So of course, of course, they're going to keep doing this.
And and regular Canadians who deserve to walk around in safety and peace and feel valued as part of society.
They will continue to be dehumanized because you have allowed
this to happen.
And look, I'll go even further allowing it to happen time
and time and time again.
I have to ask, maybe this is your preference.
Maybe this is your preference.
Saying that these things have no place in Canada is one thing, but but but consistently
allowing them to happen and doing nothing, even though you control the levers of power,
you could have conversations with police chiefs across this country.
You could say with your words,
I want the police to start cracking down
on these illegal gatherings that are causing congestion,
that are intimidating people, that are,
they are, you know, I remember,
like if you want to throw a parade in the city of Toronto,
you need a license.
Why can't we enforce something like that?
What about covering your faces in public? What about covering your faces in public?
What about covering your faces in public?
Hey, we've got Michael on the line.
Hey, Michael, welcome to the show.
Hey, buddy, you seem a little bit worked up this morning.
Oh, I had a lot of coffee and it's Friday.
It's been a long week.
Yeah, you know, some of the stuff that you're saying,
I do kind of agree with it so that I don't.
Tell me, tell me, what do you disagree with?
People have a right to protest. So people have a right to it's not writ large
you don't have an absolute right to protest you don't we don't
live in Nazi Germany.
You're taking me to Nazi Germany by saying that after a year and
a half of these protests, I'm getting a little fed up by
taking place. There's no genocide taking place. Absolutely
not. And we don't live on a flat earth and there's no genocide taking place.
I absolutely want it in many countries for Canada.
Listen, I won't, there is no proof that a genocide is taking place. And if it is happening in any way, it is Hamas that is doing it. So if you want to stand up for a terrorist state and terrorist government, you go right ahead, but not on my show.
Thank you very much.
I mean, look, I will not engage in conversation with somebody who says the earth is flat.
And I'm not going to engage in conversation with somebody who says that Israel is conducting a genocide.
You want to do that somewhere else? You go right ahead.
But this is called the Ben Mulrooney Show, and I set the rules.
Welcome to the show, Mike.
Genocide.
Say again?
Oh, sorry.
You caught me off guard.
I actually phoned in to see if I could calm you down, make sure you're okay.
Yeah, I totally agree.
I mean, we have laws enforce them.
Like in Toronto, it's not going to happen because you've got a woke mayor and a police chief who has no cajones.
And they're just gonna let that crap happen. And his members
are buying him coffees and stuff like that. So but you need we
need somebody who's gonna like you. Yeah, he's gonna go crazy
and go listen.
Well, and look, I'll say to our last to our last caller, Mike,
it let's say let's live in a fantasy world. Let's live in a
world devoid of of facts. And let's say, let's live in a fantasy world. Let's live in a world devoid of facts.
And let's say that there's a genocide going on in Israel.
What the hell does that have to do
with Jews living at Bathurst and Lawrence?
No, absolutely nothing.
You're absolutely correct.
Yeah, why are you protesting in residential areas?
Why are you protesting in front of girls' are you why are you protesting in front of girls
schools? Why are you protesting in front of a synagogue? Because
you don't it's it's not about Gaza. It's about Jews. David,
welcome to the show.
Hello, Ben. Thank you for taking my call. No problem. Somebody
said that you've been you found worth up about this. I have to
say that I've been feeling the same way for a long time now. And I'm glad that you feel the same way
as I do. I think a lot of people feel the same way. But the
frustrating thing is that our authorities here, they're not
doing anything about it. They're allowing these people just to
chance death to Canada, death to Israel, right in our faces. And
they're allowed to cover their faces. So they're emboldened because nobody knows
who they are.
Yeah, it's against the law to cover your face at a protest.
And especially if you're out there intimidating people that
you could be arrested just for that. And yet we do absolutely
nothing about it. Thank you, David, for your call is Mark,
welcome to the show.
Good morning, Ben. How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
Mark, welcome to the show. Good morning, Ben. How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
Ben, I did call previously once to your show and listen, I'm an immigrant to this country.
I came almost 40 years ago.
I actually came after the second win of conservatives under your father's leadership in 1988.
Listen, I am shocked seeing what I'm seeing here.
You know, this was not happening
when I came to this country.
This country was different.
And I refuse to be intimidated.
You know what, with that color
that made the comment about Nazi Germany, I don't
think he understands what Nazi Germany was. Actually, the intimidation tactics, the terror
brought Hitler to power. Because it was ignored. It was ignored. There's nothing. No, it's not nothing. We should not be quiet.
We should pull back and our police forces should be required to do what they are supposed to do,
what their mandate is. Keep the streets clear and get rid of the terrorists because we don't need
them here. I agree. Mark, thank you very much. Thanks so much for the call. Olga.
Thank you for being patient. Welcome to the show.
Good morning, Ben. By contrast,
what did the same government do when a number of people protested the
government policies under the name of a freedom convoy? Hundreds,
if not thousands were arrested handcuffs,
charged and prosecuted. And those individuals were not calling for the
extermination of a nation or a race.
Yeah. And let's not forget, I think there was one one Nazi flag and everybody got
tarred as a Nazi. And by the way, there's no there's no proof that the flag that
was there was there to convey an appreciation
or love of Nazism.
One could argue that it was there in protest of what people felt were draconian measures
akin to what you would have seen from a Nazi government.
And but but and look, I was not a supporter of the freedom convoy.
I thought they made their point after a couple of days and they should have left.
But yeah, you see how they were dealt with pretty crap.
I mean, they're not calling.
No one there was calling for the I think while they were calling for Justin Trudeau
to resign, but that that's that's that's called working within the system.
This this this dismantling of Canada and the entire West
and the dissolution, the driving of the Jews into the sea,
to me, feels a little closer to dangerous levels of language
than I heard from the convoy, but I could be wrong.
Hey, is Vince still there?
Vince, hey.
How you doing?
Well, I'm well, thank you.
I'll keep it simple.
A few moments ago, Ben, you mentioned, what's happening in Israel and Gaza?
What does that have to do?
I thought there's been laws.
Yeah.
You know what it is, Ben?
It's just hatred to Jews and it's racist.
And unfortunately for our mayor, it's a hatred to Jews and it's racist. And unfortunately, for our mayor to popularity contest. Yeah. And that's what
you know, when you're peaceful people, and you have to go
through this is just, it's an embarrassment.
Yeah, well, I'll ask you, what do you think would have happened
to protesters who if during COVID decided that they wanted
to take issue with the, with the Chinese community of Toronto.
And if they protested day in and day out in Chinatown, what do you think?
How long would that have lasted?
Not very long, not very long at all.
And and the cops would have been right to crack down on those racists because
that's what that would have been.
And this is the exact same thing, except it's been going on for 15 months. Vince, thank you very
much for your call. Eric, welcome to the show.
Yeah, Ben, I agree with you 100%. And nothing's enough of
these people. I can remember back we're about the same age
back in the Balkan War. The co-op didn't go to Serbian parks
and churches and the Serbs didn't go to Croatian areas in
the Slovenia and there people went to the embassy for the war to end. Yeah, we didn't call for the
genocide of each other. We didn't call for all sorts of,
you know, throwing people into the sea and things like that.
We just wanted the war to end, but we still had a mutual
respect. Yeah, fellow Canadian, we for fellow Canadian.
Well, and I agree. Look, if you have a if you have a problem
with, if you have a problem with like a book that sold at Indigo, you protest in front of Indigo,
right. But the only reason people are protesting in front
of Indigo is because Heather Reisman is the founder. And she's
a Jew. And and that has nothing to do with Gaza. And if if you
have a problem with the federal government's position, you
protest at Parliament Hill, you got a problem with how the city
is handling something you protest in Parliament Hill, you got a problem with how the city is handling something you protest
in front of city hall, you got a problem with your the consulate.
Those are, in my opinion, acceptable ways to protest. Now,
I'm not suggesting that just because I'm saying it means
that's the only way to do things. But to go into
neighborhoods, the only reason to go into a neighborhood and
protest is to say, we can get you anywhere.
Hey, hey, you dirty Jew, we can get you anywhere. That's what
that's why they shot up those that girl school. And they did
it at a time where there was nobody there because they were
saying, we can come back when you're here when your kids are
here. We want you to know that. We want you to know that we
didn't kill anybody. But that's because we didn't want to this
time. But you should know we can get you to know that we didn't kill anybody. But that's because we didn't want to this time. But you should know
we can get you anywhere you are. And, and, and explain square
that with the right to protest. Explain to me how those are one
and the same. Jonathan, thank you so much for calling in.
Oh, hi, Benny. I agree with everything you've said. And I
think and this is the mentioned
by many commentators, we have to follow the money trail.
I mean, someone is funding these protests,
these signs, the fact that people seem to have a lot
of time on their hands to just show up
and protest every single week while the rest of us
are at work.
I mean, it was reported last year
that some international students in Montreal
were being paid to show up to protest. So there's the
money trail has to be traced. There has to be a much better
job by government agencies, been tracked the police, the RCMP to
see where this money is coming from. And it wouldn't surprise
me if the Iranian government is funding a lot of this.
And listen, I will go I will beat the drum that I beat all the
time. These are serious issues. And we are an unserious nation when it comes to these serious issues.
We do not take the things seriously that demand serious,
deliberate thought, actions and consequences. We just don't do
it. We have a prime minister who hopes the temperature will get
turned down. That's his strategy. Hoping that that how about you get up on on on TV and say, I can't direct the police,
but I'm the Prime Minister of this country. What I have seen
in the streets of Toronto and other cities across Canada is
our disgusting and vile acts of anti semitism. And I hope that
the the appropriate path I'm going to direct the RCMP to do
exactly what our last caller said to follow the money and everybody who we're going to freeze bank accounts, we
are going to hold people to account, we are going to arrest anyone who's doing anything
illegal and I urge the municipal leaders at the provincial municipal level to follow our
direction.
How about doing that?
That to me sounds like a heck of a lot more than hoping that the temperature gets turned down by a group who has shown
absolutely no desire to work within the system. They will
they they protest with impunity. They shut down streets on a
whim. And we are at their mercy. The taxpayers, the honest, law
abiding citizens of this city, we have to sit there as these
petulant children decide
to have, to pick a fit in the middle of the street
anytime they want.
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