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Episode Date: November 4, 2025

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Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. And, you know, we like to open up the phone lines and talk to the people who make this show a community. But we also realized that you guys reach out to us and communicate with us in other ways on other platforms. And we thought, you know, it's unfair to those who want to communicate and talk with us and chat with us through social media and on YouTube and when you send us emails. And so we decided to start a new segment where we engaged with all of those people who drop us comments. and so that leads us to our new brand new segment which will be an evolving segment and right now we've settled on the name the Ben Mulroney Mailbag Doop, do up welcome friends to play and sing

This is Reply All the Ben Mulrooney Mailbag That's right reply all colon the Ben Mulroney mailbag And I wanted to call it fan mail but then Droulet told me I don't get any of that So I wouldn't know if you call it fan Yeah I don't know that we have any of you know But anyway, so here we go. We're going to read some of these off, and I'm going to try to answer them as best as possible. And feel free that just keep sending them our way and they will populate this segment once a week.

Okay. So we do get them from all over the place on Instagram and YouTube, et cetera, et cetera. So this was from Our Nation fan. Why do you reject the modernity of AirPods? Hashtag, no more wired headphones. That's obviously because you are wearing. Well, yeah, because I wear, I wear the traditional ear pods, air, air. Yeah, but it's connected to air wire.

But that's because it's a wired studio. There's no, there's no Bluetooth. I can't use Bluetooth to link up with the station. And I thought he was going to ask, why don't I wear the cans like everybody else does? Yeah. That big ones. Well, that's because I don't want it to hurt my hair. You end up with a, like a dent on the top of your head.

And I got stuff to do after work. Like I got other, I got other meetings. I got to go to. And so, yeah, I just, I just prefer them. So it's a vanity thing. It's a vanity thing, but yeah, yeah, I guess it is. It's a practical vanity thing. It's a practical vanity thing. This is, I prefer the look. And now that we're on YouTube, I kind of, I got to have to look I want. So thank you for that. Also, not for nothing. Elon Musk said hashtags don't, they don't use them anymore. Yeah. There's no hashtags. They are of no value on X. I think this hashtag was to push the

point home. Yep. All right. So gone to the next one. Now that was the softie. Got to start with the softball. Schnauzer face. Okay.

That's the one. Okay. Wrote, well, Canadians ever vote conservative again or not until the senior demographics change? Yeah. So look, I'm not the right person to ask about voter intention. I was caught off guard in the last election. I was surprised by, I was surprised by how willing.

the people of the country were to swing back to the liberals after 10 years. I really was. And I was, I ascribed a lot of the voting intention for the conservatives to anger towards Justin Trudeau. I did not appreciate that it would evaporate the moment he left. I didn't think, I thought the brand had suffered as well. So, so I'm, I learned a lot in the last election. I learned that anger is not as sustainable. as fear. And the liberals had a campaign of fear and the conservatives had a campaign of anger.

And to those who think that Pierre Polyev's time has passed, I'm not one of those people because we saw such a swing, such a change in such a short period of time in real time after Trudeau left. I'm not going to be somebody who predicts what happens a year from now. It's not going to happen. Yes, people that conservatives will get back in government. at some point. It's going to rely on a whole bunch of stuff. This country is more left of center, just typically, and more trusting of government, even after being shown that government cannot be trusted, at least a certain party. But Mark Carney is doing his best to show that he's a different brand of liberal. And so how this budget goes, how the next year goes, how things go

with the tariffs, all of that is going to eventually determine so much. that's all I can say. I really I can't commit to when or how. There's there are too many moving parts. I wonder whether or not people becoming more attuned with the economics of the country and what is happening with the

finances in this country. Look, you know what? Thank you for bringing that up. Look someone sent me this earlier today. In Canada, the quality of life index ranked the top 30 countries and in 2015, Canada,

Canada had the ninth highest quality of life index. It was measured overall living conditions, combining data on cost, safety, healthcare pollution, and more. We were number nine in 2015. We experienced, we experienced the most precipitous drop of any other country falling to 27th by 2025. That didn't happen because of Donald Trump. 2025 preceded Donald Trump. This was, these were, we got in our own way. And we allowed government to believe that they were the solution to all of our problems, even the problems that they caused. I believe as a center, center right person, that all things being equal, government should do its best to stay out of the way. That's my fundamental belief. And not to say

there's not a role, there's a very real role for government. It's not in every aspect of our lives. And sadly, we're living in a time where the solution to everything, including the problems caused by the government is more government. And whether or not the liberals in Karni decide to make this, the environment more in favor of businesses, we have to wait to see. Yeah, exactly. So we'll have to wait to see on the budget, but yeah, there you go.

All right, P-dub 306, not the greatest online name, but it's okay. Do you feel what was cloaked in socialism in Canada with the left has taken a term into communism? No, no, no, it's socialism. And so most of the people who want to offer free stuff still want to operate. I mean, they're not suggesting the seizure of the means of production, I don't think. They just want to give everything out for free. They want to tax you to the nth degree and then redistribute that wealth.

And so I don't think we're taking a turn into communism in any way. But we have not just been experimenting with socialism. We've been living with it. Justin Trudeau's liberal government was the single most, it was the most leftist government that we have ever had, ever had. And so it wasn't an experiment. It was a full-on marriage. And we weren't flirting with it.

We were making out with it. And Toronto is going down the same. Yeah, we are. I mean, we were just talking about that in a previous segment where they're flirting with yet another idea of another tax as opposed to looking at, could we? we possibly be spending less? Doing more with less is should be the, well, listen, Karni said that they're going to do more with less.

What that means, we'll have to see. But that is something that conservatives should resonate with conservatives, right? Doing more with less is what every government should strive to do, not taking everything that we've got and then redistributing it. All right. Now let's just remind some of our listeners about a rant you did about a week ago regarding the Reagan. ad. The Ford government in

Ontario put out this ad using the words of Ronald Reagan about tariffs. And that led to a whole stinkfest with Donald Trump. And I pointed out the entire thing was disingenuous. It was all a bald-faced lie by the president because on the first day he had seen it and he told everyone he had seen it

and while he didn't agree with it he would have done the exact same thing. So he didn't have a problem with it until two days later. And the question is why? Well my contention was tomorrow the Supreme Court starts hearing oral arguments over whether or not some of the powers that he has ascribed to himself in terms of terrifying are even legal. If it turns out the Supreme Court rules against the

president, he's going to have to give back billions upon billions. Some say hundreds of billions of dollars that have already been collected by his government. That changes everything in terms of his tactics, his ability to negotiate. He cannot do these shakedowns nation by nation in the way that he has. And my contention is somebody told him that it was not going to go the way he wanted, so he needed a boogeyman. And the boogeyman he created was Big Bad Canada, scaring everybody. Okay. So that was the backstory. So then the comment from John R, I think it's a classic, Ben Mulroney, what are you smoking and where can I get some? So he did not ascribe, I believe. I'm reading between the lines here, the one line. He did not ascribe to your theory.

No, no, a lot of people didn't. I got a lot of pushback for that, but I don't do this to be told I'm right all the time. If people say I'm wrong, I'm wrong, we'll wait and see. We'll see how it goes. I really do genuinely, because he shot himself in the foot. The day after the ad thing where he got upset, what did he do? He had another tariff to Canada.

Explain to me how that is anything but punitive. Explain to me how that has anything to do with national security. It doesn't. It's a whim of the president, and he does not have that power. and the Supreme Court, I believe, will tell him as much. All right, we're going to keep doing this next week. That was the mailbag. Let's do the phone mailbag.

Any questions? Ask away. Next. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. And yeah, we're going into the viewer, the listener mailbag. We're trying to get a conversation going on. Whatever you want to talk about. It's 416870-6400 or 1-3-8-8-1-8.

2-25 talk. Give us a call. Anything on your mind? What do you want to know about me? What do you want to know about my thoughts on anything, really? That's where we're going today. We're taking some comments from our social media.

And we really want to broaden the conversation beyond just the phone calls, although the phone calls are really important to this show as well. So give us a call 416-8-6400 or 1-8-225 talk. And let us know. But let's delve back into the reply all. Community, what are we calling it? Reply All, the Ben Mulrooney Mailbag. Ben Mulrudey Mailbag, yeah.

Although we could play, let's go back to our audio clip because we work so hard on this. Doop, do up. Welcome friends to play and sing. This is Reply All the Ben Moor Rooney Mailbag. Yeah. I say it when you can sing it. Exactly. And you love it.

The look on your face, the look of satisfaction. It's just this, this Rye smile is like, I did good. Jolet do good. All right. So what else is on people's minds? All right. So this is sort of a speed round, I guess. Okay.

As I answer some calls, let's get into this. Why is Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow still in office? Well, she got elected. You know, I respect the political process. She got elected. She, the other candidates didn't get their act together. And so she won. It's as simple as that.

And there was a hope that she would, I don't know what the hope was from the people who elected her, I think you'd have to be pretty ideologically driven to look at the city and say we're in better shape today than we were when she took office. A lot of the problems predate her, but I don't believe she's made a whole lot better in this city. If somebody can recommend or suggest to me

a file on which things have improved, anything, I'd be open to hearing it. But I think the city is in a lesser place. I think we are more divided than we've ever been. I think we're angrier with each other. And that is not, that is not, that didn't happen by accident. That happened through actions and deeds and absences and priorities and ideology and a vision of the world that I do not subscribe to.

And I think it's time to really, I think that the center, center-right candidates have to get together. They've got to get organized. I think there are some active, there's some political, groups out there, political action groups that are working really hard and we'll have to see that. So let's go to, who do we have? We've got Pat. Pat, welcome to the show.

Hi, how are you? I'm well, thank you. Ben, what's your definition of woke? I've, from the traditional one, it seems to have changed. Yeah, I think it has, it has changed. My definition of woke, and I thank you for the question,

Pat, my definition is a worldview that is based on identifying and categorizing people, cross-referencing people in as many ways as possible to ensure that we have no commonality that unites us. And it's designed to silo us off from each other. It is designed to create a world of two camps. oppressors and oppressed, victims and perpetrators,

colonizers and colonized. And I think my most generous interpretation is the unintended consequence of it, meaning I don't know that this was the plan, but it's certainly been the result, has been to create an environment of division where we can't talk to each other. In fact, there is hatred,

there are vile insinuations of motivation and it's been designed and the end result is that we have been weakened because of it. I truly believe that. And I don't necessarily think that those who would be self-professed advocates of it are necessarily nefarious in their intent, but the result has been a lessening and a weakening of who we are. I will say, I think one of the wokenest and most destructive statements ever made by a prime minister was our prime minister who said that Canada was the first post-national state, that we have no core identity. I think that was the beginning of all of these things, or it was the license given to activate the woke agenda. Because if we are not a nation state, if we have no values, if we are nothing but a collection of people from other

places, then there's nothing to bind us together. And that's exactly what they needed. There's nothing of value here in Canada that was created by Canadians. There is no shared history that we should be proud of. There is nothing here but genocide and blood and pain. And if that's the case, then all the other people who come here, they're coming here with better values than we have here. And I reject that. Canada is a net benefit in the world. We are a net positive in the world. And I'll go farther. The culture that we have here is better than most cultures in the world. It's better. It's not different. It's better. And I know that because people move here, not the other way around. And if you believe it's better, then it is something that

people need to appreciate and absorb and make part of their lives. And we have spent the past 10 years telling people, come here with whatever baggage you have, with whatever history, whatever values you have. And don't worry about adopting any Canadian values, because there's nothing here worth adopting. And that's what I think is the most destructive thing that's happened in this country. And I thank you very much. I went off on a tangent there. Let's go with Reagan. Welcome to the show.

Hey, Ben. How are you? I'm great, thanks. Yeah, I was just talking to your screener about it. Earlier, you kind of said that you think Pierre Polia has what it takes to become prime minister. But my problem is, I feel that he panders to the far right. Okay, tell me what you mean by that.

What, I need to know specifically what is a far right, what appeals to the far right in Pierpoliad. Be specific, please. Well, we'll just say he's dog whistled about transgender rights in schools, especially in supporting the people. Again, tell me what that means. I need to know what that. Saying it is not the same as explaining to me what he's, saying it's a dog whistle is not, is not information I can use. So then a dog whistle for, uh, for what, what a lot of them. the people in the far right are using is they're trying to say well it's their parents right

the parents right to know when it comes to trans that's why they want to abolish transgender and transgender affirmation in in hospitals for anyone under the age of 18 then okay well hold on okay well using the parents okay so again again like let's let's be clear here you you you saying it doesn't make it true i could just as easily come back and say to you that uh that a legal principle in this country is the legal age of consent for anything is 18 and and why all of a sudden we as a society were told no no somebody can consent to puberty blockers at at six or eight years old that flies in the face of of the the western value of consent and when you say parents don't have a right to know that parents don't have a right to know what they're never said that back okay well okay

I was just giving you an example, Ben, I guess the main question I was trying to get to you as is why do you think Pierre Fulia has a chance? I feel that he needs to have more of a center-right approach if he wants to get the small liberal voters to vote for him. Well, and that's a fair question. I dispute that he's that he's dog whistling to the right, to the far right. I don't even know what the far right is, but I would argue that. I would say, look, there's a lot of damage that has been done. done by the most leftist government that we've had, it's going to require a course correction. So there are some things that the small L liberal might not like. But the small

ill liberal is also is being impoverished as well. Small L liberals are business owners. Small liberals are parents. Small L liberals are affected by these issues as well. Small L liberals enjoy a quality of life that went from number nine in the world to number 27 in 10 years. So I don't know that he has to, I don't necessarily know that. he has to do much. He's the opposition leader. He has to propose solutions. But inevitably, it's the government

that makes those changes. And if those changes do not result in an improved quality of life for everybody, then everybody's going to have to ask themselves, if we keep repeating the same voting pattern, expecting a different result, is that not the definition of electoral insanity?

And so I thank you very much for your call. No, we don't have, Laura, please, I apologize, call back another time. We don't have time for that. I sort of kind of went off on a tangent there, but I appreciate you all. Up next, our tech expert, Karmie Levy, gives us the lowdown. Has Tesla figured out the flying car?

Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. We appreciate you. We appreciate you wherever you find us. And, you know, we're on the goal. old fashioned radio, but we also use technology to find you wherever you might be. So we're on podcast platforms and streaming apps. And we're also on all the social media platforms and YouTube. And wherever you decide to enjoy our show, we appreciate you. But let's get back to the apps of it all. We are on a streaming app and there was a big streaming app that had a big

problem during the Blue Jay's big loss and to discuss the tech aspects of this cataclysmic failure. by Carmi Levy Tech journalist and good friend of the Ben Mulrudey show. Carmie, welcome. Good to be with you, Ben. Thanks for having me. So over 11 million Canadians watched the game

and were heartbroken at the loss, but Rogers SportsNet Plus app had a problem. Yeah, it melted down at the absolute worst possible moment in the seventh inning of the seventh game. It just stopped working for a lot of people.

It wasn't across the board. I mean, there were some folks, like, for example, In my case, it still worked. But social media absolutely lit up with people complaining that they suddenly lost their connection and they missed the game. And there was so much complaining that eventually Rogers put up a note saying they were having technical difficulties. Put up a link where subscribers could connect to a free stream on their website. So they did offer a bit of a workaround, but, you know, come on.

You knew this was going to be an incredibly popular event. it was easily the most watched piece of Canadian television in history, and that Rogers, the biggest telecommunications company in the country, couldn't plan for this and couldn't make sure they had enough capacity ready to go for that crush. It was kind of surprising and kind of disappointing. Well, I get it. Like, I get your point, but I think in, as we witness in real time, people migrating from like sort of traditional technologies to these newer services.

There's going to be growing pains. We sought, look, I heard a story during the game that, you know, IPTV providers, people who are watching television over the internet, were experiencing slowdowns as well. And let's not forget what happened with Netflix, right? Netflix with the Jake Paul fight and people were tuning in and they were having buffering issues. I was watching with a friend who, for some reason, I guess the server that he was drawing from didn't have any issues. but that one had its own problems. And then I heard later that Netflix sort of knew that this sort of thing was going to happen, that they knew as they tested out streaming live events, that they could have load issues.

And so they wanted the stakes to be low. They wanted the viewership to be high, but the stakes to be low, which is why they had no problem having a Jake Paul fight because who the heck is Jake Paul really in terms of like real boxing. So they wanted to test it, real world testing it, without the stakes being high, and then that they were able to adapt beyond that. I think what we're witnessing, and you tell me if I'm wrong, what we're witnessing is the real world implications of these switchovers, these crossovers, for stuff that actually matters to people.

And now that they know, now that they know what's at stake and how to deal with, I don't know that we'll have these problems in the future. Yeah, I think, you know, and I think you're absolutely right, although I do think just the nature of the technology means that we probably will have issues over time. We sort of been spoiled broadcasting or traditional broadcasting scales really well. You know, you put up a big antenna and then you, then you share a common signal that people can just pull out of the sky. It's so, you know, whether one person is watching or a million people are watching, it works just the same way. Whereas with internet streaming, each stream, everyone watching

adds to the amounts of traffic. And so you have tens of millions of Canadians watching, that is a massive amount of traffic across the Internet, and that, of course, does not scale well. So, you know, to a certain extent, they will improve. But I think just the Internet as a technology, ironically, it isn't as good at mass broadcast as broadcast technology was. Well, I mean, it's right there in the name. It's more interactive, but we lose something along the way.

It's right there in the name, broadcasting. Exactly. It's right there. All right, let's talk about something that when it finally drops, it's going to get a lot of eyeballs on whatever media people are consuming. And we're talking about Elon Musk's roadster. It's the ever-elusive Tesla roadster that he's been promising for years.

It looks like he's getting closer to dropping it, and the hints that he's dropping are kind of out there, like Elon Musk out there. Yeah, I mean, he was, Elon Musk was on the Joe Rogan podcast the other day, and they were talking about the roadster. Joe Rogan was asking him about it. And then so instead of actually saying, you know, here's what we're going to finally ship it,

Remember, he introduced it in 2017. So eight years ago, they were supposed to be shipping this thing in 2020. We're still waiting. And instead of giving him a date, you know, Elon Musk was peak Elon Musk, he started talking about a flying car, saying that, you know, we don't have flying cars, but wait, we're working on something that contains crazy, crazy technology. He's not even sure that it's technically a car. He's know it looks like a car.

So he's saying that, you know, like essentially saying, you know, I'm not going to give you the roadster yet, but wait, I've got a flying car. So this is Elon Musk just doing what he always does. There are people now who have, they coveted $50,000 on his car seven years ago, and they're still waiting. Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, have asked for his money back because he's still waiting. I would rather that they just deliver the original car, as promised, don't give me a flying car. Don't give me a car with rockets on it because they also promised that a couple years ago. We're still waiting for that.

At this point, I'd be happy to see just a basic Tesla roadster. I don't think we really need all the advanced technology. No, we don't. And frankly, you and I, I don't know if we've talked about it before, but my contention is a flying car is a plane, and you need a special license for that. And all the dreams of having flying cars don't take into account the practical problems of what happens when you have a collision in the sky above a city or a school. Like, that in and of itself makes the risk factor so high that,

I can't imagine I like I I trust pilots to fly me I don't trust myself to fly me and I don't care how good the technology is I ain't flying myself anywhere yeah and Trump

Canada has been wrestling with it just look at the rules for drones they've gone through two major updates so far and they're nowhere near finished because it is an infinitely more complex to manage the sky than it is the ground below and safety obviously has to be primate out this is why we have government agencies

to mandate safety it doesn't matter what Elon Musk says The regulatory implications are almost beyond comprehension. Exactly. There is no way this thing's going to see the light of day. I agree. I agree. All right, well, let's talk about Amazon. Amazon has embedded itself so deeply in our lives that it is second nature.

When we need something, go to our phone, and a day later it shows up, sometimes in a few hours it can show up. I don't think a whole lot of people care about how the sausage is made. So when I read the story that Amazon laid off some employees with early morning text messages, I don't know how many people are going to really get upset about that. Well, you know, and that's a thing. So they sent two text messages last week. They laid off 14,000 people, mostly in management in their corporate offices. And they sent them two text messages.

The first one was to say, check your personal or work email before you come into the office. And then the second one was call the help desk if you haven't gotten that email. And the reason being was because there's been this trend. As other large tech companies like Google and Tesla and Microsoft have laid people off, there's been this problem of people coming into the office and didn't know that they were laid off because they had been sent an email that of course they didn't get and they tried to badge in

and they were standing outside the office wondering what's going on why can't I get in so this is to avoid that you know you get the text message you know don't bother badging in you've been fired which I mean it's a pretty cold way to get rid of people but but this and I think this is the age we live in right this is you know there is technology to manage mass layoffs more efficiently

leave than before, but unfortunately, we kind of lose the humanity in the process. Yeah, you're not going to offboard people one at a time if it's 14,000 people. And you want to make sure that they are out of the office where if they have an emotional moment, it's not going to happen on company

property. So yeah, I get that. I get that. But like I said, first of all, no one's going to lose any sleep for executives who lose their jobs, although they are people too with families. But again, when it comes to Amazon, people just want their stuff cheaper and faster and quicker.

And eventually when we hear stories of Amazon replacing human beings with robots, I don't think anybody's going to really care that much, sadly. But anyway, that's a story for another day. Thank you very much, my friend. I really appreciate your time today. Great being, Mr. Ben. Thank you.

All right. Don't go anywhere because when we come back, we're going to be talking about the bromance between Doug Ford and Mark Carney. It's alive and well. However, the question that we pose today is the bromance being tested. We've got a lot to dig into.

There's a he said, he said, of provincial and federal proportions. So you're not going to go, you're not going to want to go anywhere. This is the Ben Mulroney show from coast to coast to coast right here on the Chorus Radio Network. Welcome to the Ben Mulroney show. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. We want to talk about the bromance between the Premier of Ontario and the Prime Minister of Canada. Doug Ford has prided himself on being able to get along with and work well with anyone. He's built a positive working relationship with the mayor of the biggest city in this country,

Olivia Chow of Toronto. They most certainly do not see eye to eye on their vision of the world. their politics, and yet they've made it work. I mean, they've worked well together. Have they made it work? That's up for a debate. And that's depending on your perspective. And upon ascending to the role of prime minister after the election,

Doug Ford had Mark Carney over to his cottage. And they had a working meal together and they've worked very well together. They speak well of each other. They don't snipe at each other in public. And even though they both have different views on what needs to get done or how to get it done, they're both working in furtherance of the goal of improving Canada's status and stature and strength. And that has been the narrative thus far. However, you'll remember that Doug Ford put out a commercial that aired in the United States

using Ronald Reagan's opinions in his own words on tariffs, not positive, and put that out in very specific places. And the end result, after first saying he had no problem with it, he then came out and said it was awful, it was disrespectful. And because of that, more tariffs on the Canadian economy. And eventually, Doug Ford took those ads off the air. I had Warren Kinsella, who knows more about the inner workings of a PMO, the prime minister's office, than most.

and he said there's no way that a commercial buy of $75 million was not run by the PMO. And then we found out that the prime minister had in fact seen the ad. But then the president didn't like the ad. And then we hear that the prime minister said that he apologized to the president because of the ad. I don't know how that squares with elbows up. I don't know how that squares with all the terrible things that have been said about us by the president. I don't know why he would do that, but he did. And no tariffs came off after that apology, but it is what it is.

So a lot of people are trying to figure out, well, what exactly happened? Because we were under the impression that Mark Carney saw the ad and said, go for it. So let's listen to Doug Ford when he's pressed. about whether the Prime Minister asked him to remove the ad. I'm not going to go back and forth. I had a different recollection of our conversation, but that's, you know, people don't need that. They want to move forward to get a deal to protect jobs

and protect the economy of Ontario and of Canada. But then Prime Minister Mark Carney called Ontario Premier Doug Ford, quote a couple of times from Asia, asking him to pull an anti-tariff ad of the U.S. president. let's listen to that little piece of audio I'll tell you one thing what he did do he called me from Asia a couple of times and said pull the ad and I said I wasn't going to do it until we're going to pause the ad on Monday

and that's exactly what we did it was 12.4 billion impressions around the world and they talked about it on the Senate floor I love the fact that four Republicans jumped over and voted against tariffs on Canada so they were very effective yeah and i i tend to agree uh again i lean on people in the know and people who have experience with these sorts of things warren cancella said one of the reasons that he thinks that the ad uh that donald trump had a problem with the ad that he didn't initially have a problem with

is that it was working it was targeted at uh at uh areas of of uh high concentration of Republicans and it polls were starting to show that support for these tariffs on Canada were softening and I add to that my theory on the Supreme Court that is going to hear oral arguments tomorrow that about whether or not the president even has the legal authority to levy a lot of these tariffs and I think that he thought he's coming up against a couple of things that could alter his ability to be shaking down countries the way he is. Okay, so the prime minister calls Doug Ford and says, pull the ad. And he says he wasn't going to do it until after a certain date,

which he says he'd after the World Series. And here's Doug Ford being asked by Colin DeMello, if it was so effective, why not run them more? But then why not continue running the commercial? Pulling the commercial shows weakness. Why not continue to run the commercial? President Trump wanted me pull it one day, and I took three more days.

and we paused it to get back to the table. It was very, very effective. I've been getting endless calls from a lot of people down in the U.S. and right across our country to say, way to go, keep going. And we'll never stop fighting for Ontario and Canadian jobs. Despite the fallout, the Premier defended the campaign. As he said, 12.4 billion views. And it was one of the, it was viral.

It absolutely was viral. It was talked about on every American news program. there were debates incessantly online about whether or not there was any there was any whether the spirit of what Ronald Reagan actually meant was captured in that you'll remember that the Reagan Foundation came out and attacked the ad saying that they were actually looking at legal avenues in which to to defend the president I contend I read the copyright act. There's absolutely nothing in there that gives the Reagan Foundation or indeed any presidential organization, the right to sue anybody. It's written black on white

that the words that a president says in the, in carrying out his duties as the president are part of the public domain. And you can do anything. Anyone can do anything with them, including alter them. So figure out, figure out how to turn that into a case. And even if they were altered, and they were altered, it was a five minutes, it was a five minute speech that was distilled down to one minute. It absolutely carried the spirit of what the president was saying, which was that I will use tariffs when I need to, but I don't like using tariffs. It's different than a president who says, my favorite word in the English language is tariff.

And I'm going to reimagine the world by using them anytime I see fit. So on one hand, someone realize it's a necessary evil and the other guy views it as necessary to do everything and anything he wants under the sun. And so, yeah, he's not a tariff guy. Ronald Reagan was never a tariff guy. And to suggest otherwise is to deny history

and to deny the words that came out of his mouth, and the deeds and actions of that president. It's an ignorance of history, or it's a lie, depending on how much you actually think about those things. It can be both as well. The question now is that I have is, like, should the prime minister have apologized? Again, like, the prime minister can do anything he wants, absolutely. But the election was six months ago.

I don't have such a short memory that this is not what I was. promised. This is not what I was promised. He wants to weaken us so he can take us. We can us so he can own us. He wants our lumber. He wants our natural resources. He wants we were going to war. It was a war footing. Our prime minister said he was the only reason he came into politics was because we required a Churchill moment. And he was going to be the Churchill of our moment. He compared himself to Churchill. I remember those. You remember those things. This is appeasement. This is Neville Chamberlain.

This is peace in our time. This is not we're going to fight them on the beaches in the air in the streets. So I understand how difficult of a job Mark Carney and his government have. It's a moving target every day. Donald Trump's upset about something else. And I get that.

But he's a known quantity. You knew what you were getting. You knew the. the fight would be hard. You asked for this job and you told us you were going to do it in a very specific way. Apologizing for an ad that you saw that apparently, I mean, if Warren Consell is to be believed, you saw and therefore kind of gave your approval to, that's Neville Chamberlain. That ain't, that ain't Churchill. With most Subaru models, all-wheel drive comes standard.

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