The Ben Mulroney Show - The Explosion of Jew-Hate in Trudeau’s Canada

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

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There is a piece in the online, I guess it's an online newspaper, the Free Press, that was written by Terry Glavin called The Explosion of Jew Hate in Trudeau's Canada. And the founder of the Free Press writes off the top, we rarely run pieces this long, but today's investigation, the story of how anti-Semitism became deeply embedded in Justin Trudeau's Canada called for it. This is a piece worth reading carefully. It is relevant not just to our many Canadian readers, but to anyone invested in the future of the West. And I could not agree more. I am so glad to have the author, Terry Glavin, joining us right now. Terry, thank you so much for being here. Welcome to the Ben Mulroney Show. Hi, Ben. How are you?

So this is indeed a long piece, and I have to, as someone who's been following the rise of anti-Semitism in Canada since October 7th, there's a lot of information in here that was not unfamiliar to me, but it's how you lay it out that is devastating. I mean, if I hear one more politician on the left say, this is not who we are and anti-Semitism has no place in Canada. I'm going to pull my hair out. Yeah, well, you and me both, buddy. I mean, I've been covering this stuff more or less for about 20 years now. this really nasty, toxic sociopathology that has been kind of percolating underneath what used to be called the left. I don't know how to describe the phenomenon quite in the last few years.

Kind of burst its banks on October 7th. And it truly was shocking, I think, to a lot of people, a lot of really good, decent people. It was really funny the way it happened because, I mean, because I've been paying attention to this, my initial attitude was kind of like, well, where have you people been? And that's a bad attitude for me to have. You know, because it really is.

And I mean, I found a lot of it astonishing, the fact that there were open, unambiguous, full-throated celebrations of these atrocities that were carried out by one of the most hideous, theocratic, fascist organizations on the face of the earth. And, you know, all the sort of social justice milieu, you know, the kind of activist avant-garde, radical chic milieu in Canada, if it wasn't sort of lending its voice to this sort of thing, it was absolute silence. Well, Terry, how much of it, I mean, sometimes I think we have to go back to the studs, take everything down to the studs, including stripping away some of the mind control that's going on on our university campuses. I mean, it's a breeding ground.

When we saw the disgusting behavior of some of these students last year and the things that these supposedly intelligent, well-read, well-spoken, privileged kids were saying, some of those uneducated, hideous stuff, it tells me maybe that's where we should start. Well, that would be a good place to start. You know, like there's a lot of debate about, or maybe there isn't enough debate about exactly you know, when you look at all these street protests, I think a lot of people are inclined to say, Oh, well, there you go.

That's what happens when you invite all of these, let's be honest about it, you know, the thinking that we allow all of these Muslim immigrants into the country, and this is what naturally results. I'm not sold on that thesis, actually. Maybe it's the company I keep, but, you know, the Muslims that I associate with are not anti-Semites and don't. Me neither. You're absolutely right about that. Yeah. So but there is, I think, an argument to be made.

And Casey Babb from the McDonald-Gloria Institute puts it very well that, you know, we've brought in, you know, hundreds of thousands of people from Muslim majority countries in recent years, from the Maghreb, from the Levant, you know, the greater Middle East, whose societies do have deeply ingrained, deeply embedded anti-Semitic values, some of them at their very core. And we should not be surprised when, you know, when a horrible event occurs like October 7th. And, you know, we also have to say, you know, like these the terrible suffering and anguish of the people of Gaza. You know, it will bring out the worst in a lot of people who come from these cultures. But Terry, things are not made better when the country that they are coming to is led by a sort of a philosophy by the Liberal Party.

That's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, that we have no core identity worth promoting. You want to come here with sort of generations-old hatreds towards one group or another? We should be as a society pushing back against that and saying that is not welcome here. But we've got this moral equivalent sort of thing that all cultures are worthy and all cultures are the same. They're just different. And I don't subscribe to that. Yeah, neither do I. And I'm happy to hear you say that.

But, you know, at the same time, like how much of it is that sort of it's, you know, in the case of Melania Jolie, remember she said to Tom Mulcair when Tom was saying, my gosh, you know, your policy on Israel is indecipherable. It's mumbo jumbo. And she said, Thomas, have you seen the demographics of my writing? Oh, you know, the base political calculation was disgusting. Yeah, I think I don't I don't think we can easily dismiss the argument that, you know, changing demographics in Canada has a lot to do with this. But at the same time, I think it's also worth noticing that most of the most, you know, most of the extremely lurid and really blood-curdling rhetoric and polemics have been coming from, you know, posh little white people. Yeah, yeah.

And that's something I think is really fascinating. of the left over the last quarter of a century and how it's kind of retreated into these bizarre little uh cul-de-sacs in which you know even the old marxist notions of objective uh you know hegelian ideas of you know objective reality are lost on them and terry, I need to move this to one last point before we go, because it stuck out to me in your reporting that Statistics Canada reports that Canadian Jews were the targets in 70% of religiously motivated hate incidents reported last year. So four times as many incidents as those

in which Muslims were targeted. You've got a population that represents less than 1% of Canadians in the Jews, and Muslims make up one out of every 20. So the numbers, it is not even they're not even playing the same game. And yet, as you write, it is a rare thing for a liberal politician to utter the word anti-Semitism in any statement without saying Islamophobia alongside it, essentially creating not just a moral equivalence, but an actual equivalence that they are the same scourge happening at the same intensity to the same amount of people. And that's just false. And it's very distressing as well, too.

I mean, the thing is, you know, since October 7th of last year, and you probably have encountered this as well. Every Jew that I know, all the Jews that I know, are disconsolate. They're feeling isolated, maligned, put upon, abandoned. They can't pick up a newspaper. They can't walk down the street of their own neighborhoods day after day after day. I mean, this is what we have come to in this country. This is who we are. It's who we are now.

We have to admit it. We need to really look ourselves in the mirror and say, how in God's name did we allow this to happen? And I think you're right. I mean, this notion of Canada is kind of this this this malleable place where, you know, there is no there are no core values. There's no main. How do you do, by the way, how do you do national security in a post-national state? Exactly. Exactly. Hey, Terry, we're going to have to leave it there. But I can't tell you how much I appreciated this investigative report. It is so important. I urge everyone to read it. Thank you so much.

Thanks a lot, Ben. That's Terry Glavin. The piece is called The Explosion of Jew Hate in Trudeau's Canada on thefp.com. It is absolutely worth a read.