The Ben Mulroney Show - The Liberals are shameless and think you can be fooled

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

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So there's never a teardrop should fall. Should fall When your sweet lilting laughter's like some fairy song And your eyes twinkle bright as can be You should laugh all the while and all other times smile And now smile, a smile for me when Irish eyes are smiling happy st. Patrick's Day thank you so much for joining us on this auspicious holiday those were the dulcet tones of one right and honorable Brian Mulrooney. We loved this holiday. We loved this day. And yesterday was the St. Patrick's Day Parade here in the city of Toronto and my sister was the

Grand Marshal. And it took us back to one of our favorite pictures that is in my parents' house is a picture of my dad as the grand marshal of the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Montreal years ago. I believe I was three years old when that happened. Caroline was six, so she has some memories of it. I don't. But it's such a beautiful picture and to have been shoulder to shoulder with my sister yesterday on such a special day for us. I was honored. I was so honored, so proud of her. And it was to see, look, the crowds were a little thin because of the weather, but to see people of

all walks of life coming together on a joyous occasion. You may know nothing about St. Patrick. You may not be Irish, although on St. Patrick's Day, everybody's Irish, but there was so much joy on the parade route and it really made me feel good. And I don't like parades. I mean, I do not like parades, but I like that parade. It was a lot of fun, a lot of fun. And one of the moments I had at the beginning of the parade

before it even started, is I got to meet somebody in person whom I've only shared the air with on the radio, and that was Kareem Asad, who is, as you probably know, if you listen to this radio station, she's a lawyer, but she also has a team of people that go out and keep an eye on protests. And so I met her before the parade even started, and it's really funny how my day was bookended by her because unbeknownst to me, I got caught on camera by her people. And so this is what happened.

At the end of the parade, I was under, I wanted to go home. My sister had to stay as a grand marshal to watch the entire parade go by. I had no such obligation. And I gave her a big hug and thanked everybody and cut across Yonge Dundas Square so that I could make my way to Jarvis and then take an Uber around the parade route.

And I guess there is a guy who is famous at the pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian protests who caught me on camera, and he was recording me on his phone. Karima's people caught him catching me, if that makes sense to you. And he was moving towards me, not threatening or anything, he just looked like he was following me.

I had no idea. And I crossed the path of five or six Toronto police officers. And I could tell they recognized me. So I stopped to chat for a moment. And I noticed that one of the police officers had a very similar pinky injury to what I've got. It looks like a trigger finger.

And his friends found that very funny because they make fun of his finger. And we took a picture and I thank them for their service and off I went. And I, something tells me that had I not stopped to talk to the cops, first of all, Karima's team had a chance to talk to him and he seemed to not like being on camera too much and walked away, but had I not stopped to talk to the cops, there is a very real chance that my St. Patrick's Day that had been so beautiful would have been punctuated with this guy following me with his camera asking me all sorts of loaded slanted questions. And so I credit the luck of the Irish for allowing me to not have to deal with that.

And thank you to Karima's team for highlighting this gentleman. But I did notice, and I'm gonna take a moment here, that there were in fact counter, there were, I don't know why you protest a parade, but these nonsense people who like to just complain about anything and everything. And I heard F St. Patrick, he was a genocider. He genocided people. It's not a verb, It's not a verb.

And using it like that makes you sound stupid. Also, when you don't know the history, that also makes you sound stupid. But it occurred to me, had I gone or had somebody gone to a pro-Palestinian march and said those types of negative things directed at people that mean a lot to the Muslim faith. What would those protesters be complaining about today? Why is it all right to attack the religious and cultural touchstones of one group and but in another it is it is deemed a social ill that needs to be addressed at every level of power. Just an observation not looking for an answer just an observation. Well we for our first weekend with a new

Prime Minister Mark Carney and we know that right now he is in Europe. I made my my opinion very well known on Twitter over the weekend I think if the threat Minister, Mark Carney, and we know that right now he is in Europe. I made my opinion very well known on Twitter over the weekend. I think if the threat to Canada is as dire as it has been made out to be, then it is a clear and present danger that needs to be dealt with immediately, and Mark Carney should not have gone to Europe. He should have gone to Washington. I got some pushback. I love the debate. thank you all. But he does say he wants a call with Donald Trump

and he respects the president's economic goals. So we'll see. I mean, if you want my two cents, I think one of the reasons he went to Europe is it's a layup, right? It's a layup. He can go there, he can look prime ministerial, get some footage for the campaign trail when ultimately he calls an election.

He gets to rub shoulders with some world leaders. And maybe he comes back with some new business for Canada. Maybe. In which case, great. Great. But it's low risk, very high reward. Versus the job he said he wanted, the job he said only he was capable of doing, which was dealing with Donald Trump and getting this existential threat dealt with.

I think he wants that to be an election question because it's a jump ball, right? You're dealing in hypotheticals on both sides. However, were he to go down there right now, were he to get intimidated by the president, were he to be given a negative nickname, and were he to come down there right now? Were he to get intimidated by the president? Were he to be given a negative nickname? And were he to come home empty handed? That jump ball goes to Pierre Poliev.

You tried, you had your kick at the can, you failed. Now, we're gonna try the other guy. And to me, that's the most offensive thing. This is the issue of our day, and you wanna punt it till after the election, which already is months too late because damage to the Canadian economy has already been done. investing, you can own less than one full share, so expensive stocks are within reach. Learn more at TD.com slash partial shares. TD. Ready for you. At Desjardins, we speak business. We speak startup funding and comprehensive game plans. We've mastered made-to-measure growth and expansion advice, and we can talk your ear

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the carbon tax that they themselves not only implemented, but defended by vilifying anybody who criticized it for the better part of a decade. They tweeted, we cancelled the carbon tax. No, you didn't. While Pierre Poliev offers empty slogans, we're taking action to fight climate change, put more money in your pocket, and build a strong economy. Here's what Pierre Poliev had to say about this tactic and how he sees the whole thing. Mark Carney thinks Canadians are stupid. He thinks that a little bit of cosmetic surgery

will allow the liberals to disguise who they are and make people forget what they did for 10 years in order to elect them to a fourth liberal term. But it's the same liberal gang with the same liberal agenda, the same liberal results, and the same liberal promises of the last 10 years. The only thing I take issue with that is I don't know that... I wouldn't go so far as to say they think we're stupid. I think they think that we have the memory of a goldfish. Like we're going to forget that they were the ones that implemented the carbon tax that cost. Look, they even said it in a tweet. As of April 1st, gas is going to cost 17 cents less per per liter which means we've been paying

an additional 17 cents a liter that we didn't have to be spending for years and they want their cake and and they want to eat it too and but look look I'll say it these people at this point have no shame and And I want to hear from you. Is this going to work? I mean, nobody's unhappy that the carbon tax is not going to apply and our lives are going to become a little more affordable. Nobody's saying that. But you don't get credit for undoing something that was so damaging, but that you stuck with doggedly.

And there is no way that you can explain the logic to me. So, oh, the world has changed, said our new finance minister, who by the way, very nice man. But the world has changed, but the climate hasn't changed. I thought that the world was going to burn if we didn't have this tax. So you removed it. What happened to the climate? Did it suddenly improve?

That make, you can't square that circle for me. The hubris is beyond the pale as far as I'm concerned. Hey Tom, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for calling on this Monday. Hey Ben, you just got me fired up this morning because I just told your screener you could put silk on a pig. You could put fur on a pig, whatever you want. It's still a pig. Yeah. Anybody who follows politics will know that the liberals have to go there's forget about the scandals. It's it's the same thing. Yeah, it's the exact same thing. Anyone who knows Carney knows that he's not welcome. They're not well liked in the UK

when he was the banking thing. He's not well liked at all. They actually have a nickname for him, like an ex-boyfriend or something. Unreliable boyfriend. And Tom, I want to thank you very much for your call, my friend. Thank you, and I hope you have a great day. Yeah, look, everybody should be happy that they've finally seen the light, but I don't like being talked to like I'm stupid. And only, I'm sorry, I do not mean to be offensive. Only an idiot would swallow the logic and rationale that these guys are peddling right now.

It is, it is so insulting to think that quote unquote, we got it done. What did you get done? Walk me through the logic. Walk me through it because there's no way that you can explain in good faith that you get credit for this. Scott, I want to welcome you and happy St. Patrick's Day. Happy St. Patrick's Day to you as well. This is lipstick on a pig.

You know, this one point on the carbon tax, Poliev will be able to go after if that's one of the platforms that's going to come up. But there's a laundry list of, you know, just not blunders,, screw ups, f-ups that these guys have done. So unfortunately we live in a society where we only think of the last six months. You know, people can't remember back six years ago. Well, you know, I'm going to do my best to remind them because this has been a lost decade, Scott, and I thank you for your call. I'm hearing lipstick on a pig a lot. The analogy I like far better is this is like lighting

the fire and then getting credit, wanting credit for calling the fire department. That's what this is to me. It was your own policy and anybody who suggested it was a boneheaded move was insulted, marginalized, demonized. So please, you do not have the moral high ground here. I'm glad you saw the light. But take the L and move on. There's no W here for you. Malcolm, welcome to the show. Oh, hello, Ben. How are you? I'm well. I'm well. I really enjoy the show. Thank you. I'm wondering

when did Canada adopt executive orders? I watched a circus show on the weekend and also how do you change something that is actually a law when parliament is paroled? Well exactly they wanted to get away with and let's call it what it was a Donald Trump style executive order moment. The fact that they claim that that Pierre Poliev is the one who wants to be Donald Trump, I've never seen a conservative do that. And never mind the fact that what he said he was doing he didn't. So the performances continue and the slogans continue. We got it done, we're back to work. All of it is meaningless. What they did is they lowered the rate to zero,

but the act is still, it requires an act of parliament to get rid of the law. That's not gonna happen anytime soon. They'll probably keep it. And if they want, maybe they'll uptick it at some point. But thank you so much for the call. And Paul, yeah, look, we're staring down the barrel of a fourth liberal government.

Hey, Ben, I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you. If we vote the fourth time for these guys to be in power again, we are stupid. That's the only thing I have to say. Well, yeah, well, it's fundamentally it's the argument that we you get the government you deserve. That's a truth, truth ism about democracy, right? You get what you deserve. If you don't want to go out and vote and the other guy slips up the middle, if you don't pay attention, if you fall for the BS, then you get what you deserve. Simple as that. Who do we have now? We've got Marcus. Marcus, are you bullish on people keeping opening their eyes to this or do you think that we're gonna fall for it?

Well, you know Ben, I mean who knows Canadians surprised me a lot of times But you know, and I think Mark Kearney didn't go to Europe for economic reasons. I think he's homesick I think he's like tired of being around all of us savages in North America and he's homesick Yeah, no, I think you know that the joke I had with my with my brother Marcus is his passports took a vote and decided They's homesick. Yeah, no, I think, you know, the joke I had with my brother Marcus is his passports took a vote and decided they were homesick. Yeah, exactly. You're right, dude. He's, look, I trust Canadians here.

I think they're gonna vote out the liberals. My big thing is though, the women in my family, a lot of them vote liberal, sort of left-leaning. They're not this time. And the reason is economics. They're looking at savings accounts going down. They're looking at inflation going up. And a lot of the women I know... Tell me what they're saying, Marcus. What are the women in your life saying?

Well, it's not just like sort of family. It's people I know. They're complaining about expenses, expenses for children's activities. So are they, are they mothers? Are they young mothers? Mothers and also people working as well. Yeah. It's basically inflation, Ben. The bank accounts are getting lower. A lot of things that were supposed to be nested are getting sort of capped into before they

should have been. That's why I have a feeling the liberals will not win no matter who their new leader is. I want to thank you very much for the call Marcus and let's welcome Lynn to the Ben Mulroney show. Good morning! Good morning ma'am! Well Ben I've been working on carrots for a few years over this carbon tax. Now people do not understand that when you're talking about the gas and how much it might go down 17 cents. That's what they're saying. That's what they tweeted. Now, remember Ben, every time a nut or bolt from the nuts and bolts, from the seeds, everything,

every facet to get a carrot into that store has that kind of carbon tax on the product before it gets. I've done it, it's 100 times a carrot ends up with paying somebody producing nuts, bolts, gas, doesn't matter, 100 times carbon tax goes on the carrot. Yeah, well, you know, it's going to be very interesting to see, it's going to be very interesting to see, Lyn, if over the course of the next few months, we can see the difference between what things have cost under the consumer carbon tax and

hopefully lower prices across the board, which will then remind people that this idea that we got more money back than we were putting in, it was a farce. And Lynn, thank you so much for your call. I got time for one more before the break. Jim, how are you? Oh no, yeah Jim, welcome. Well, thank you so much. I go back to the other callers.

Well, yes, I think that the government does think we are stupid because which is it? Is it eight out of 10 are going to be getting rebates and save money or is it now that they've taken it away, it's more money in our pocket? Exactly, Jim. Hey, I've got to run. Thank you so much for your call. We'll be back after this. You know that feeling when you find the perfect song? Imagine that, but for your next meal at

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to join us on the Global National podcast. You can find it on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and wherever you find your favorite podcasts. Welcome back to the Ben Mulry Show. We're talking about this instantaneous, lightning fast rebrand of the Liberal Party. Now, they are no longer the party of the carbon tax.

They canceled it. They get credit for that. They're also the party of the carbon tax. They canceled it. They get credit for that. They're also the party of fiscal responsibility now with our new finance minister who said, well why don't we listen to what what he said about this new outlook of this new Liberal Party and new government. Mr. Kearney has said I'm going to spend less. You have said I'm going to spend less. You can't answer on what you're going to spend less on. Is it the public service? Are you going to cut the public service?

Like I said, we're six hours since the moment I've been sworn in. So I'm quite- In principle, are you open to cutting the public service? Well, listen, I love the public servant. I think they've done great service for Canadians. We're going to look at the books. We're going to be, you know, it's more about the approach.

When I say this is the era of fiscal responsibility, I think people understand what it means. You know, everyone's more about the approach. This is when I say this is the era of fiscal responsibility. I think people understand what it means. You know, everyone's afraid that Pierre Poliev is going to come in and cut everyone's services. That reminds you a lot of those services we can't pay for. Like, that's just a fact. But I would say seeing as how these guys are already in charge and they are saying they're going to cut it is incumbent upon them

to answer that question. But instead, we get these word salads. They are the ones they're going to cut, it is incumbent upon them to answer that question. But instead, we get these word salads. They are the ones who are going to build the economy, make us more productive. And I'd like to remind everybody listening that there is a chart that displays the growth based on GDP per capita in the last 10 years. The United States has grown 20.7%. There are then 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 countries between them and us. The United States 20.7% growth. Canada in 10 years, GDP per capita, 0.5%.

That is the legacy of this party. So when they say, oh, well, we're going to look at everything. I'm sorry, man. The clock doesn't start today. It doesn't start today. You don't get a do-over. The clock started 10 years ago. That's what you were responsible for.

Let's welcome to the show David. David, am I making a mountain out of a molehill here? Am I being too critical? Do they deserve a good faith opportunity to rebrand? I think you're not. I think you're not going far enough. I don't think there's a ball. This is a mountain People are not calling what this man is. He is a dictator He is not elected on a single Canadian has cast a vote for him as our leader Well, you know, hold on David David that's not that that's not my issue that it's listen. It's a particularity of our system I don't like it.

It shouldn't happen though. I know it shouldn't, but look. He hasn't been vetted either. But David, listen, and you're right about that. He's ruled the WEF. Well, David, hold on. Let me just jump in for a sec. Look, anytime there is a change of leadership

at the top of a party that is in government, you are going to have a moment like this, especially if somebody presents themselves who doesn't have a seat in House of Commons. They will for a time be our prime minister without having been elected to a seat. I get that. That is not my issue.

We're talking when you add prorogation, tariffs, and the fact that this current prime minister has not equaled out the equation by at least giving us accountability in the press, talking to the press, sitting for interviews. It's not that this is some sort of loophole that needs to be closed. It's that Canadians deserve more information coming out of a very opaque government. That's my opinion. Let's say hi to Stephen. Stephen, how are you? Good morning, Ben. And I'm going to say this politely. I think you should calm down. I don't want your blood pressure to go through this room because we're talking about a moot point here. It wasn't 10 years ago. This, um, I gotta reframe my words there. This started when his father, his father was in power.

It has nothing, sorry, when the Liberals had Pierre in power. Okay. It went across and they had already made damage. So the situation is here, how do you take a guy that screwed up the Bank of England, when he went over there to do work, takes all of his stuff from Canada, throws it in the States and blatantly lies and says, oh no, no, I never did that. But then he has to retract and say, oh yeah, maybe I did that. Right? Like right there, we should all look at this and say, uh-oh, another molehill is just about to explode.

Yeah, the unforced errors, nobody's asking him to make things up. He's doing that on his own. And then when he's challenged by the press for a little bit of accountability, he gets very testy. That is not a recipe for success on a campaign trail ultimately when he's gonna have an entire group of journalists covering his every move and demanding answers on very important questions. He has not been battle tested yet

and I think one of the reasons he's off in Europe right now is because like I said before it's very low risk very high reward which is not the job he signed up for. The job he signed up for was tough and the meetings that he needs to be taking are tough specifically south of the border and he has not done that. Joel you actually think that Mark Carney is going to beat Pierre Poliev? Listen, Mark Carney didn't go to the United States. I support that wholeheartedly because the United States treated us very bad. So we don't have to take them seriously to go visit and kiss the rain. No. He go to France or Europe. I like that we have to isolate

the United States because their behavior because we are not a country, a country that we have to we have to depend on the United States. I know we are depend technically, they are different also with us. Yeah, Joel, Joel, listen, I very much appreciate you calling in with your opinion and I absolutely respect it. And look, there is an argument. Joel's right. There is an argument for going to Europe. However, Mark Carney presented himself as the man to meet the moment of Trump and tariffs. He said, I came back for this. I'm a guy for the crisis. I think he was in that pub that day where he said, I'm a wartime leader. But the front is south of the border.

Why aren't you at the front? Because he does not want that to be prosecuted before the election. Because what if he fails? What if he fails? Then the promise that he made to people, I'm the only guy who can take care of Trump evaporates and he does not want to risk failing yet even if that failure is even even if the risk is opens up the possibility that he

could get a deal. It's too great of a risk. He doesn't want risk. He does not want to risk losing the election. And yet again, party over country. David, welcome to the show. Hi, thanks for taking my call. I'm finding myself having to having to send off the continued liberal onslaught of supporters despite facts and sharing them right in the face. I'm mortified about the upcoming election results that the Liberals are winning because it doesn't matter how many facts or how much supporting information is presented in front of them. And I don't understand it. I don't understand this red pill mentality, whether

a lot of these people are, you know, they're holding positions within different levels of government, they're getting funding, that belays their loyalty to this inept and totally corrupt party. It baffles me. I'm at a complete and utter loss. Let me ask you a question, David. What is your biggest fear if the if the liberals are able to secure a fourth consecutive government? What is your biggest fear? A lot of things. In in Kearney's book, he's talking about wanting to this is further down the road, central bank, central bank digital currency, which is also in conjunction with his wishing that everyone has their own personal carbon score, meaning he wants to attach a carbon footprint

to each individual. So that means that, you know, at some point in time, they're aiming to control you to the point as to whether or not, you know, say you've used your allotment of carbon credits for that month, you will not be allowed to go out and buy gasoline. And I know that sounds far-fetched, but you know, this is the groundwork for a very, very tightly controlled dystopian country and society that these people want. It terrifies me. David, thank you very much for your call and hopefully all this stuff,

whether his fears come to pass or not, hopefully these are conversations we'll have during an election campaign, whenever that may be. Let's take one more call. Joe, welcome to the Ben Mulroney show. Good morning good morning I think I truly believe this if uh Carney becomes the next premier of uh Canada he will put a nail in the coffin of Canada itself Alberta will leave literally join America as the 51st state then Saskatchewan because of the national energy program that here to go started they are just slowly going to wrap it up rapid up rapid up for some reason they want to pack it to death in control of how we live and alberta already had wraps in america yeah talking with uh... people saying

hey if this comes to fruition we want to come to America. And guess what? It doesn't have to be Trump. It could be anybody in the future. Hey, Joe, we're going to have to leave it there. But thank you so much. And let me just say it one more time.

In the past 10 years, GDP per capita has grown by almost 21% in the United States. In Canada, it has grown by half a percentage point. The Liberal Party does not get to start the clock now and say, we are the party of the future. They have to start the clock when they took power 10 years ago. And this is the record that should be hanging around their neck. This is what they are responsible for. This is what they are accountable for. There's no limit to how far criminals will go to cover their tracks. But investigators will go even further to uncover the truth.

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