The Ben Mulroney Show - The Toronto podcast - crime, sixplexes and the TDSB making private deals?

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

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Schwarma in a Doritos bag? Yeah, that's real. The walking Schwarma is crispy, saucy, and made to move. Only at Osmos. Limited time only. Bold meat Schwarma. Go get it. Welcome to the Ben Mulroney Show. Thank you so much for starting your week with us. Happy Monday. I hope everyone had a great weekend. It was picture-perfect weather here in the city of

Toronto. I was very pleased to be able to really maximize the weekend, enjoy it with my family. I hope you were able to do the same. And now it's back to the grind on this Monday. And I told you last week that I was having a really tough time reading a calendar. And I knew, I know dates, I know, I understand the passage of time. And I know that it goes first, second, third. I know how to count all those things. But for some reason, there was a blind spot in my brain. And I thought last week was this week. And I had all sorts of plans to go see Superman with my kids. And then we got to the movie theater. I told this story last week, got to the movie theater,

and turns out it was not a screening for Superman, but for Jurassic World. And fortunately, because of my life in entertainment news prior to this, they recognized me and put me on the list and I was able to be surprised with a screening of Jurassic World. Well, now we fast forward to this week and I'm finally doing all the stuff this week

that I thought was gonna happen next. I'm seeing Superman tonight with my kids and I'm finally doing all the stuff this week that I thought was going to happen next. I'm seeing Superman tonight with my kids and I'm going to find out from them if I'm allowed to talk about it on the radio tomorrow because oh boy I think this is the Superman that we've been waiting for since the Christopher Reeve the best version of the Christopher Reeve movies. So stand by for that. All right well from, from the optimism of a Superman movie, we have talked about the realism of living in the GTA today. And that means living in an environment of, of a lot of crime, a lot of crime, not to suggest that everybody is is unsafe all the time. I don't want to be one of these guys

there that subscribe to the if it bleeds, it leads sort of that subscribes to the if it bleeds it leads sort of mantra. But crime has been on the rise. There is more of it, is more professionalized. It is more organized and it is more violent in this city than it ever has before. And there was another home invasion in South Oakville. another, another home invasion in South Oakville. So it happened at a 5 a.m. Yeah, when was it yesterday?

Yeah, yeah, yesterday. And three masked males kicked in the front door of a South Oakville home. One was armed with a gun. They attacked an elderly man in his bed, breaking his nose, then choked his adult son, stole a whole bunch of stuff. And this is the world we're living in. Why you should be concerned is because this used to be front page news.

It didn't even make the news. Well, now by virtue of being on this show, it has, and we'll see what happens next. And this is the second home invasion in Oakville, right, that we're going to be talking about. Ten minutes from where I am doing this show from, in Leslieville, a teenager is dead after being chased into a McDonald's and stabbed to death. Okay, that happened, like, for those of you who think, oh, well, it's not in my neighborhood, I'm in a nice neighborhood. This is that nice neighborhood, quote unquote, nice neighborhood. Crime is infiltrating every community in this city. And yeah, they're looking for witnesses because there were a lot of people

there was a busy, busy night in the at the McDonald's and lots of people there, you know, when there are lots of people anywhere, phones are out, people are getting content sharing their lives. And so the police are asking anyone who may have been in the vicinity of that McDonald's to share their videos with them on the off chance that there might be something in the vicinity of that McDonald's to share their videos with them on the off chance that there might be something in the background, there might be something they weren't paying attention to that could be of benefit to their investigation. But yeah, I mean, I don't want people to be living

with a sense of apprehension every second of every day, but this should be governing our decisions as voters at every level of government. Like this is your home. You like the home you live in? You've been investing in it? You want to see that investment grow, your property value to go up?

Well, there is a direct relationship between crime in the city and property values. If this city starts being known as a place that is not safe, it's not safe to walk your dog, it's not safe for your kids to be walking down the street, then that will negatively affect the largest investment that you have ever made in your life. And so sometimes we like to complain about those things, but when it comes time to

electing people and electing parties and supporting platforms that will push back against the criminal element, sometimes we stop short. So just remember that the next time you go to the ballot box and make sure that those questions of public safety are are paramount. I mean look we got a lot a lot of issues we have to deal with everything from the economy to health care to the safety on our streets but I mean if there isn't if that isn't something that gets you out of bed to go vote especially especially in a municipal election. You know, in a municipal election, we have such low voter turnout, but the police budget, the recruitment, and the maintenance of

of a strong police force, ask those running for city council, ask those running for mayor, what their positions are on that, and then make your decision accordingly. I want to go back to the the conversation and a story that we've talked about talked about a lot the alleged hate crime against an Islamic woman a Muslim woman at a pizza pizza it was a swarming attack where her hijab was taken off. And the family believes it was racially motivated, religiously motivated. And some say, well, we don't have enough information yet.

I believe that if there is enough information to say a crime was committed and where there are, and it involves a protected class, then the onus should be flipped. It should be on the defense to prove it wasn't a hate crime. That's actually where my head is now. I'm more than willing to have a conversation and be told that I'm wrong,

but that is where I feel we should be on issues like this. No charges have been filed yet. However, there is a video the faces of the the the the kids and it is kids involved in this are visible. So they know who these people are and not for nothing. This involves three girls. You know, traditionally violent crime was almost the exclusive domain of the guys. And now, I guess, in an effort to show the world that girls can do anything guys can do, the girls are getting in on the violent crime. And so I do hope that charges are laid soon. And if, in fact, it turns out that it was a hate crime, then I hope that the justice system deals with the accused in a very, very harsh way.

I don't want anybody to feel unsafe in simply live in their lives and proudly demonstrating their love of their God and their belief in their faith publicly. That to me is not who we are. That to me is not what this city is. And anybody who thinks that it is okay to target anybody who professes a belief that is not their own, Yeah, those are the people you throw the book at. Well, there's a lot of people in my mind you throw the book at, but you throw a pretty heavy book at those people. All right. I wish we could have gotten to everything, but

there's lots of time in this show, so do not worry. When we come back, we are going to be talking about the battle between Ottawa and Toronto City Hall about sixplexes. Is the city going far enough to unlock the funds promised to them by the feds? A lot of people say no. We're gonna dig into that next on the Ben Mulroney Show. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney Show. Thank you so much to all of our listeners, all the people who follow us on YouTube as well. And now more than ever, people are joining the conversation through our social media channels. I was just told that in the early days of our show on Instagram, we're all we're pushing 10,000 followers.

We're almost there. Very, very close. But that is a great place to watch our content, to get to know the show. And maybe look at it like taking us on a test ride, right? Go check us out on Instagram. And if you like us, join us on a more permanent basis elsewhere. But regardless, I say thank you.

And I appreciate anybody who spends any time with the show. It means a lot to us. All right, in our previous segment, we were talking to a city councilor about sixplexes in neighborhoods. And I told him that I was, even though I'm proud of my neighborhood and I'm proud of my house and I want it to grow in value,

I'm not necessarily against sixplexes in the neighborhood. And then he put it in a way that gave me pause. He said, look, sixplex means plex means at least six families. That's possibly 12 cars. Where are you going to put those? And the idea of having 12 extra cars on my street. And what if there were two or three of these on my street? Then all of a sudden you're looking at chaos in a way that we've never had before.

Why would I invite chaos in if I have power again to push back against it? But I want to hear what you have to say. And let's start with John, because, John, thank you. First of all, thank you for calling in. Welcome to the Ben Mulroney show. You live in a place where six plexes and multiplexes are myriad. Right. Good morning, by the way. And thanks for taking the call, man. I appreciate the show. And usually I'm in agreement with you. But when you said that you wouldn't oppose it initially when you were talking to the counselor, I was shocked. Well, I just told you, I just, I hope you were listening

because I just said, you know what? I might be walking that back because he put it in a way where, you know, on my street, for example, if there were two of those, that's an extra 24 cars. Well, yeah, and I heard that and I'm glad you said that. Now I lived in Los Angeles for about six years in a neighborhood that was all four and five plexus.

Yeah. And literally, you would have to plan your day to try to get home early as possible so that you could get a parking spot on your street. Yeah. But normally you didn't. So now you're parking three streets away sometimes. Now that's okay if you're in Los Angeles where the weather is great, but imagine it's middle of winter and it's 7 a.m. and you're walking three, four blocks to get to your car.

And the other part of it that people don't think about is when you've got four and five plexes all around you, I mean there's no peace. You're hearing televisions going out all hours of the night, you're hearing people arguing at all hours of the night. I mean I live in the suburbs because I don't want the rat race of the city. But if you bring four and five plexus to my suburban street here, it's horrible. Like I don't want to live like a rat. And we keep being told that, oh, it's great putting all these people in there. Let's build all these huge high rises and condos because we need to be a bigger city.

And it's just, I don't understand. Well, yeah, the way I'm leaning these days is, look, we're making these massive investments in public transit and we want people to take public transit. It's the mission of this city to get as many people on public transit as possible. Does it not therefore behoove us to build a density along those transit lines? You want people to take it?

How about how about there's an entrance to the subway right in the basement of their their apartment building? That to me seems like the quickest way to get to where we want to go. But again, not a city planner. A lot of respect for what they do. But it seems like it seems like the sixplex debate it's reminding me of the single use plastics ban and I thank you for your call, John. Thank you very much. It's

reminding me of the single use plastics ban where we made such a big, big point about banning plastic straws because apparently they were getting lodged into the noses of turtles. I don't know if it was that big of a problem, but there was one picture. So let's legislate according to that. So that represents a fraction of a percentage

of the plastics in oceans. If you really wanted to deal with the problem of plastics in oceans, you would deal with industrial fishing. Anytime they have a problem with one of their massive fishing nets, rather than fix it, they just cut it loose and start using another one. That accounts for a big, huge chunk of the plastic

in our oceans. But rather than fix that problem, we decide to go again for the straws because it's a better photo op. And in this case, maybe the issue isn't, you know, a sixplex here or there that is not gonna yield much of a difference in terms of capacity in our system, our housing system,

but it's good for headlines, I guess, rather than going for like the meat of the order, which is like I said on transit lines, but I'm not an expert. I will defer to experts or at least have conversations with experts. Hey, Dan, welcome to the show. Hey, Ben. Good morning. Good morning. I need more than six seconds. Go ahead. You got you got more than six. You almost got there with holiday asking about well, our building fees have increased significantly. I think it's like 800% over the last decade or so, right? Yeah.

And so forth and so forth. We keep saying, oh, we must have density. We must have more people. We need to accommodate all these people. But why? To me, it seems like a giant Ponzi scheme. In the 70s and 80s and 90s, we had surpluses, right? Since then, our property values have gone up four times

in the last 15, 20 years. So they're getting four times as a ratio, the revenue. We have parking fees where there was no parking fees before. My street never used to be ticketed two years ago. We have fees on public swimming, which we never had. Swimming pools used to be free when I was a kid. So we had the surpluses, we had free facilities,

we had cleaner streets, no potholes, and the city thrived and breathed, because I'm old enough to know the difference, I can see it, okay? Why am I being forced to change the face of the city? Why are we just accepting, boldly, that we have to have three, 400,000 people here? If it's costing us upon these.

No. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. And listen, I thank you very much for everything that you said. But look, it's like induced demand. We've created a world class city and people flock to world class cities. That's what that's how it is. When when new Canadians come here or when immigrants come here, when people want that big job, they move to the city and you have to accommodate them. And it's a sign of a great city that is growing.

And so I take your point. I take your interpretation that we don't have to grow. We don't have to be a city of six million or eight million or 10 million or 12 million. But unless you can tell me how you tell somebody who wants to move here, no, you can't move here even though you got a job, even though you bought a house. I don't know what to tell you.

It's sort of, it is definitional of being a big city. People gravitate to it. People flock to it. We got time, I think, for one more. Boris, welcome to the show. Hey, Ben, you had me until you said you have a lot of respect for city planners. They're the ones who got us into this mess. I saw a clip Arnold Schwarzenegger said, never rely on the people who created the problem to get you out of the

problem. And yet we elected the liberals again, over and over again. So where I'm at in Mississauga, I live in a two story residential house, five feet from my house, the city approved a 12 story condominium. Do they do they have a view of your backyard? They have visual access to every bedroom in my house. Yeah, that's creepy. Not that they'll see anything, but that's what they have.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it. I totally get it. So have you been in that house? Oh shoot, you know, actually, we're gonna have to take a break now, but I wanna thank you for the call. And I should have, and because that house? Oh shoot, you know, actually we're gonna have to take a break now, but I wanna thank you for the call. And I should have, and because of what you just said, let me rephrase.

I have a lot of respect for the work that goes into being a city planner. I hope that works for you. All right, don't go anywhere. When we come back, we're gonna be talking about public-private partnerships in the public education system? Is it the way of the future? Or is it something that is it a bridge too far? This podcast is sponsored by better help. If you've been following the news, like really following it, you know how exhausting it can be. Politics, conflict, uncertainty, it's a lot to carry.

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But that is a great place to watch our content, to get to know the show and maybe maybe look at it like taking us on a on a test ride, right? Go check us out on Instagram. And if you like us, join us on a more permanent basis elsewhere. But regardless, I say thank you and I appreciate anybody who spends any time with the show. It means a lot to us. All right. In our previous segment, we were talking to a city counselor about six plexes in neighborhoods. And I told him that I was, even though I am proud of my neighborhood and I'm proud of my house and I want it to grow value I'm not necessarily against sixplexes in the neighborhood and then he put it in a way that made that gave me pause he said look six a sixplex means at least six

families that's possibly 12 cars where you gonna put those and the idea of having 12 extra cars on my street and what if there were two or three of these on my street then all of a sudden you're looking at chaos in a way that we've never had before why would I invite chaos in if I have power again, to push back against it? But I want to hear what you have to say. And let's start with John, because John, thank you. First of all, thank you for calling in.

Welcome to the Ben Mulroney Show. You live in a place where six plexes and multiplexes are myriad. Right. Good morning, by the way. And thanks for taking the calls, man. I appreciate your show. Thank And usually, I'm in agreement with you. But when you said that you wouldn't oppose it

initially with when you were talking to the counselor, I was shocked. Well, I just told you, I just I just I hope you were listening, because I just said, you know what, I might I might be walking that back because he put it in a way where, you know, that in my on my street, for example, if there were two of those, that's an extra 24 cars. Well, yeah, and I heard that. And I'm glad you said that. Now I lived in Los Angeles for about six years in a neighborhood that was all four and five plexus. Yeah. And literally, you would have to play

in your day to try to get home early as possible so that you could get a parking spot on your street. Yeah. But normally you didn't. So now you're parking three streets away sometimes. Now that's okay if you're in Los Angeles where the weather is great, but imagine it's middle of winter and it's 7 a.m. and you're walking three, four blocks to get to your car. And the other part of it that people don't think about is when you've got four and five plexes all around you, I mean there's no peace. You're hearing televisions going out all hours of the night. You're hearing people arguing at all hours and I mean I live in the suburbs because I don't want the rat race of the city. But if you bring four and five plexus to my suburban street

here it's horrible. Like I don't want to live like a rat. And we keep we keep being told that oh oh, it's great, putting all these people in there. Let's build all these huge high-rises and condos because we need to be a bigger city. And it's just, I don't understand. Well, yeah. The way I'm leaning these days is, look,

we're making these massive investments in public transit. And we want people to take public transit. It's the mission of this city to get as many people massive investments in public transit. And we want people to take public transit. It's the mission of this city to get as many people on public transit as possible. Does it not therefore behoove us to build a density along those transit lines? You want people to take it,

how about there's an entrance to the subway right in the basement of their apartment building. That to me seems like the quickest way to get to where we wanna go. But again, not a city planner, a lot of respect for what they do, but it seems like the sixplex debate, it's reminding me of the single use plastics ban. And I thank you for your call, John, thank you very much.

It's reminding me of the single use plastics ban where we made such a big point about banning plastic straws because apparently they were getting lodged into the noses of turtles. I don't know if it was that big of a problem, but there was one picture, so let's legislate according to that. So that represents a fraction of a percentage

of the plastics in oceans. If you really wanted to deal with the problem of plastics in oceans, you would deal with industrial fishing. Anytime they have a problem with one of their massive fishing nets, rather than fix it, they just cut it loose and start using another one. That accounts for a big, huge chunk of the plastic in our oceans. But rather than fix that problem, we decide to go again for the straws

because it's a better photo op. And in this case, maybe the issue isn't, you know, a sixplex here or there that is not gonna yield much of a difference in terms of capacity in our system, our housing system, but it's good for headlines, I guess, rather than going for like the meat of the order, which is like I said, on transit lines,

but I'm not an expert and I will defer to experts or at least have conversations with experts. Hey, Dan, welcome to the show. Hey, Ben, good morning. Good morning. I need more than six seconds. Go ahead, you got more than six. You almost got there with the Holiday asking about, well,

our building fees have increased significantly. I think it's like 800% over the last decade or so, right? And so forth and so forth. We keep saying, oh, we must have density. We must have more people. We need to accommodate all these people. But why? To me, it seems like a giant Ponzi scheme. In the 70s and 80s and 90s,

we had surpluses. Since then, our property values have gone up four times in the last 15, 20 years. So they're getting four times as a ratio the revenue. We have parking fees where there was no parking fees before. My street never used to be ticketed two years ago. We have record, we have fees on public swimming, which we never had. Swimming pools used to be free when I was a kid. Yeah. So we had the surpluses, we had free facilities. Yeah. We had cleaner streets, no potholes, and the city thrived and breathed because I'm old enough to know the difference. I see it. Okay. Why am I being forced to change the face of the city? Why are we just accepting boldly that we have to have three, 400,000 people here? Well, it's costing us. It's upon these. No. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. And listen, I thank you very much for everything that you said,

but look, it's like induced demand. We've created a world-class city and people flock to world-class cities. That's what that's how it is. when new Canadians come here or when immigrants come here when people want that big job They move to the city and there and you have to accommodate them and it's it's a sign of a great city That is growing and so I I take your point. I I Take your interpretation that we don't have to grow. We don't have to be a city of six million or eight million or 10 million or 12 million.

But unless you can tell me how you tell somebody who wants to move here, no, you can't move here even though you got a job, even though you bought a house. I don't know what to tell you. It's sort of, it is definitional of being a big city. It people gravitate to it. People flock to it. We got time, I think for one more. Boris, welcome to the show. Hey, Ben, you had me until you said you have a lot of respect

for city planners. Got us into this mess. I saw a clip Arnold Schwarzenegger said, never rely on the people who created the problem to get you out of the problem. And yet we elected the liberals again, over and over again. So where I'm at in Mississauga, I live in a two story residential house. Yep. Five feet from my house, the city approved a 12 story condominium. Do they have a view of your backyard?

They have visual access to every bedroom in my house. Yeah, that's creepy. Not that they'll see anything, but that's what they have. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it. I totally get it. The, and so have you been in that house? Oh shoot, you know, actually we're gonna have to take a break now, but I wanna thank you for the call.

And I should have, and because of what you just said, let me rephrase. I have a lot of respect for the work that goes into being a city planner. I hope that works for you. All right, don't go anywhere. When we come back, we're gonna be talking about public private partnerships in the public education system. Is it the way the future

or is it something that is it a bridge too far? Welcome back to the Ben Mulrooney show and I want you to pick up that phone again and give us a call at 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225. Talk and I want you to pick up that phone again and give us a call at 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225. Talk and I want to again I want to reiterate we are so close to hitting 10,000 followers on Instagram we only started that page just a short while ago so that growth is very meaningful and it means that we're connecting with our audience on all sorts of platforms. So keep it up and let's see if we can grow the community to beyond 10,000 followers. Let's see how far we can go.

All right, here's what I want you to call in. Because there is a school in North York that partnered with a professional rugby team. So they own this, like what looks like a nice, like area where they do gym and stuff outdoors, and they're sort of a track around the this patch of grass, but it's not regulation in any way. And so this is at Lawrence Park Collegiate. And they partnered with the Toronto Scottish Rugby Football Club.

And the rugby club is essentially going to give them $1.5 million, and that is going to be matched by the school board. And this is going to enhance these outdoor facilities. But there is a catch. From Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays after school, as well as all days Saturday, the students and the school have no access to the facilities that is exclusive to the rugby team. And this has a lot of people up in arms. And I want to hear from you, 416-870-6400, or 1-888-225-TALK. Look, I don't know enough about this deal, but

we know a few things. We know that the TDSB. Has a 50 million dollar budget shortfall, and we know that this group, which is a sporting group, came to them with one one point five million dollars and said, you've got a problem. We want to be part of the solution. And and so what you have here is a public private partnership.

I don't have a problem with this unless I'm missing something. And I'm more than happy for somebody to call in and fill in the blanks. I don't have a problem with this. The alternative was for them, these students to have a subpar athletic experience at their school. Now this rugby team is coming in and is going to help them build out something that they can use Mondays, Fridays, and Sundays after school. And by the way, they can go to other schools if there's a competition, you just plan accordingly. Right? Because a lot of some parents groups are saying,

oh, they've completely lost access to their school grounds. Yeah, well, they've lost access to their school grounds to a partner that kicked in $1.5 million. That's not nothing. And look, here's another thing. We know that the TDSB has now, essentially, all the trustees have essentially been fired, right? They're not getting paid and they can't do anything.

So, and they've been replaced by one administrator. I gotta think that the administrator and his team are gonna go over all of these contracts. And if they don't think that these are a proper way for the TDSP to be operating they'll probably cancel them. So let's let's stop me from talking let's join let's get Mike to join the conversation. Mike welcome. Hey Ben great show. Thank you. I work for TDSP for 37 years. Oh wow. And yeah I'm teaching for 25. The last, in about, in around 88,

I was offered a deal from Nike when they just bought Bauer and they offered me to give my entire hockey team all the equipment, shirts, two shirts, all this stuff, all the fixings. And the only deal was they wanted their name in the announcement. So anytime we announced the results of a hockey game, they had to call it the Nike, blah, blah, blah.

And it was vetoed. The board vetoed. That's idiotic. No, can't do it. That's idiotic. That is like that. I mean, that's actually now it's come full circle where the board's a little bit broke and a little bit. It's an understatement.

I mean, I've seen my program totally deteriorate. I teach tech and it's just nothing left anymore. But anyway, I don't want to digress, but now, you know, that field is in the community. And at nighttime, it should be community based. And if they're putting out half the money for it, then 100% they should get it in the evenings and weekends. What's the problem?

Yeah, the kids still have access during the school hours, right? Yeah, yeah. So everyone- I would think 435 so they could have a game after school and then that's it, you're done with it. Yeah, and look- Education stops.

And on days where they have a game and they've got to play it and they don't have access to their own field, guess what? There's every game requires two participants, go do it at the other person's, at the other school. Like to me it's- 110. Yeah, anyway, I want to thank you for your call and by the person, at the other school. Like to me it's- 110. Yeah, anyway, I want to thank you for your call.

And by the way, thank you for 25 years of service on the front lines with our kids. I appreciate you. Yeah, it was fun. Thanks a lot. And yeah, look, the fact that Nike wanted to come in and outfit an entire school, I guess, with hockey gear, and the TDSB vetoed it because you would have had to say,

Nike must be nice. Must be nice to be so flush that you can turn that down. Must be nice. They didn't want corporate sponsorship. They didn't want that to grow. They didn't know how big it could get. I just happened to have a contact high up in Nike. I got, you know, it was a, it was a, it was a side gig. You know, they, they were keen. They wanted to get the kids hooked on the Nike instead of the Bauer, because they just bought out Bauer.

Yeah, well, Mike, again, thank you very much, and you have a great week. You as well. Yeah, look, and let's not forget, remember when we were doing the, we were talking about the nonsense renaming of Yonge-Dundas Square, and people were saying, hey, if it's up for grabs,

why don't we bring in corporate sponsors? Like, why isn't it Young Dundas Square brought to you by X or something like that? Or I have no idea, but if there's money out there and we need money and corporate Canada wants to give us money. Who are we to say no without exploring every option? And if you think about it, it's we are so far behind the curve with so many issues. US colleges are paying their athletes.

Yeah. I mean, forget about scholarships and stuff, which they're ahead of the game. Yeah. But they're paying athletes. The Leafs even put logos on their helmets. I mean, you think about how much it's changed in the NHL. It used to be verboten to have anything on the boards. And then it adds all over the boards.

Then it was like, oh wait, we can't have anything on the ice, and then it started sneaking in there and it's between the blue lines. And now they're putting logos on the helmets. Why isn't the TDSB in any private enterprise or public enterprise looking at this as an example? Yeah, no, I completely understand. I completely get it and I completely agree.

And I think especially because the money is coming from an athletic group. I mean, you found common cause. They're athletes, your students are athletes and you want, again, the whole point is how do we best serve our students? What was there before? What is going to be there next?

And is the trade-off worth the improved facilities? That's the only question. Are you getting more out of the deal than you're giving? And it feels, again, I don't have enough details yet, but I wouldn't turn this down on its face. I would explore it. I would look into it. And this idea of, okay, who do we have now?

We got Nathan, Nathan, welcome to the show. Hey dude, I had to call in with this story. My buddy of mine, I don't want to get too detailed. It's a local school board in southern Ontario. He's a head custodian. Under Armour had donated over 100 pairs of brand new inbox soccer cleats to their school three years ago. They sat in a closet. My friend said, like, well, if we're not going to use these, why don't we give them, donate them to other schools or to the needy?

Yeah. No, the board told us we have to throw them in the dumpster. Are you kidding me? I am not because I ended up with about five pairs of cleats for my kids. This man put all of those boxes day after day in his car and he drove them to donation centers and to the needy himself. See it's stuff like this Nathan and I thank you for the call thank you very much but this is this is the nonsense this is why this is one of those

examples of why the TDSB needed to be taken down a peg looking down your nose at a corporate gift as if somehow the mob wanted to come in and spruce up your school. Like this is an organized crime. Like this is a responsible corporate partner that wants to build roots in the community. And they're offering you something that you can't afford. So anyway, it's a great conversation.

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