The Ben Mulroney Show - This week in socialism!

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

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It was a phenomenon on TV. It was a number one show on TV where Chris Hans, would conduct sting operations, but with NBC News and the police to catch sexual predators. And it was must-see TV for a very long time, but not very like four years. But then it abruptly ended because, well, we'll tell it. If you don't remember, you'll tune in to hear it.

We talked to the director and producer of a documentary called Predator that is still streaming on Paramount Plus right now. dose it. And let's listen to a little bit of the clip. Of course, the show is not designed to stop the crime or else the show wouldn't exist or else these spin-offs wouldn't exist. You know, Chris Hansen has now rebooted the show and has been doing the show and continues to do the show. You know, 20 years later, if the show was effective at stopping the crime, the crime would have slowed down instead. Of course, there's more of it. So that is kind of almost beside the point. And I think the show even ever intended to stop the crime, whether people would,

believe that or not. So tune in tomorrow. So it was a great conversation. No, but that's so interesting the fact that, I mean, it was something that people would see. They would see these horrible people getting arrested and they didn't see all the other stories, which you talk about as well within this interview. But the fact that the purpose of show was entertainment. Yeah. And it was not at all about like, you know, we want to stop this pedophilia thing. Of course. And if you are somebody who has those urges and compulsions and want to do those disgusting things, a show like that is not going to be a cautionary tale to you. You're going to go, you're going to do it anyway.

We want to move on and talk about our, are we doing this week in socialism? Yeah. Yeah. This week is also. Can you, do we have the, do we? No, I didn't pull that. Oh, that's okay. I want you to hear the Soviet Union anthem in your head as we talk about these two

stories. So, um, uh, mayor is Zoran Mamdani in New York has, he and his administration are drawing criticism because they released a map of the city, uh, that, It links all the NYC immigrant enclaves. And it's quite fulsome, the list. It's got, you want to know where a little Palestine is? It's on the map. You want to know where little Pakistan is.

It's on the map. What about little Yemen? Because everybody wants to go visit little Yemen. It's on my list. Now, what isn't on the map? Because sometimes mistakes are made. Who's not on the map of immigrant enclaves? Little Italy.

Really? Woodlawns. Irish community and major Orthodox Jewish areas like Burrow Park. And now they're saying City Hall is responding, saying that the map was meant to show foreign-born population clusters, not religious or historic enclaves, and said more neighborhoods will be added, emphasizing the guide is not a complete list of NYC's cultural diversity. So I've been going back and forth as to whether this is an honest mistake or not. It's, there you go.

Yeah. Yeah, perfect. This might be an honest mistake, but it's an honest mistake seen through. a perverse lens. And here's what I mean. This is a man and his acolytes who, when they talk about immigrants and the

people building New York and the people who have been marginalized, they don't want Italians, Irish, and Jews as part of that conversation. They don't want them part of that conversation. He wants little Yemen and he wants

little Pakistan, little Palestine. Those are the ones that he wants. Those are the, those are the immigrants he's talking about. As far as he's concerned, and his and his and his and his, and his, and his, acolytes and followers, all those other people who helped build, um, uh, New York city and who suffered terribly for being other in the, back in the day. Irish need not apply. My dad has a sign, uh, had a sign in his office, uh, because that was the policy all over

North America. No, no, no. No, no. That's whitey. That's whitey. And they are not part of our story. So, um, I don't know. I think it was.

probably an honest mistake because, of course, you were going to get caught. But it's an honest mistake from people who have a perverted view of history and a perverted view of community and society. And that's all I have to say about Mayor Ma'am Dani. Now, I think you should, I think you should present this next one as if you were Stalin. I don't know, it's been, I don't know what that means. Seattle deactivated its stadium district surveillance. What? Okay, so.

I sound like Count Chocular. So as part of the FIFA deal for Seattle to host some of the matches there, they had certain security obligations. And one of them was to put up cameras, all right? And what happened when the cameras went up? And there were police everywhere? The area was safe. The area was safe.

Now, you would think that the mayor and her infinite wisdom would say, all right, we've got good data suggesting that that area is safe. and we put this new stuff in, that probably has something to do with it. No, no, no, no, no, no, can't do that. You can't keep the cameras on because, I don't know, systemic racism, misogyny. What else could we be talking about?

Genocide. I don't know. Yeah, just pick a word out of a hat. That's probably what was our name, Katie Wilson, said the fall. This follows through on the commitment I made last month that these particular cameras would only be turned on

for the duration of FIFA World Cup in Seattle because of its high global profile and the unique circumstance surrounding the event. So she's given up on safety. Yeah, no, she's straight up. Yeah. So she's where privacy, data, other security concerns. How about the security of the person walking down the street

who in that area felt safe for the first time in a very long time? Yeah. There you go. Yeah. A quick little turn here. How safe did you feel in the dentist chair today, Amy? Oh, my God. I'm still in pain.

It was two plus hours of my life with my mom. mouth wide open. Have you not been brushing? Ben spends three hours every day with his mouth open. Hey, okay, we're going to take a break. At some point, we've got to visit, revisit this, what is it, the Carolina Hurricane Stanley Cup story. Yeah, we're doing that next. Oh, good. This is a story you got to hear. You're not going to believe it. The Ben Miller Show continues after this. Welcome back, and we got to talk about the Carolina Hurricanes and the owner Tom Dundon.

And what happens every year when a team wins the Stanley Cup, they are bestowed the honor of having their names engraved on the Cup. And it's a tradition that has gone on for years and years. And it's to have your name etched in that history after climbing the mountain to get to the top and be crowned Stanley Cup champions, it's an honor that everyone chases, not everyone achieves. not everyone achieves. It's the only trophy in pro sports that does it.

It's so unique. And it's really what makes it the best trophy in pro sports. So here's the little head scratcher of it all. The owner of the Hurricanes, Tom Dundon. There's some names at the top of the list of Carolina Hurricanes who won the 2025-2020 Stanley Cup. And it's Tom Dundon, Verushka Dundon. That's his wife.

was that Caden Dundon, Dax Dundon, Drew Dundon, and there's another Dundon. Blake. Blake, and then Tegan, Tegan, Tegan, these are all made-up names. Tagan Dugan. Those are his kids. Those are his kids. So the first two lines are taken up by the Dundon family. Oh, by the way, they're toddlers.

They don't work for the organization. Ages, the oldest one's 23. Yes. Youngest one is seven. Yes. And so that's more, that's more Dundans, Dun Dunns than an episode of Law order. So, fans, yeah, Dund Dunn.

So fans immediately pointed to players and staff who didn't make the cut because, so we were going back and forth this to like, is this, who do you want to, who do you feel icky about? And I was, originally I said, you know, he's, he's the dad, he's proud, he owns the team, he put up the money, he took the risk, and he's, he's the leader. And if he wants to put his family on there, that's cute. And if you should be upset with anybody, you should be upset with somebody, the people who make the rules and regulations around the names that can be put on the cup. You know, it is such a storied cup. And, you know, when they bring it anywhere, the guys have the white gloves, right?

They got the special box for it. And so if you don't have rules protecting against this sort of thing, then don't hate the player, hate the game. However, you find out afterwards that while Kaden, Dax, Drew Blake, Tagan, and Verushka and Tom are on the list, people who did not get on to this list of Stanley Cup winners, are team physicians, scouts, the announcers, communication staff, three minority owners.

That's the thing. Yeah. And you also... Three people who put up millions. Yeah. And you pointed out there's a guy named Joel Nystrom who played 38 games, just shy of the 42 game threshold to be considered. But he contributed a heck a lot more than Lil Tagan did. And...

Ah, maybe Dax. I don't know. I'm not picking on a kid. I'm not... It wasn't there. Amazing Days is on now with your local Metro. Save big on amazing items. Like selected varieties of selection.

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or when the Edmonton Oilers won, Peter Pocklington, who was the owner at the time, put his dad's name on the on the on the on the on the on the on the the cup and they exed it out at one point. If you look at it, it's it's exed out and because they're like not doesn't have anything to do with the team. There are other family members of like during the red wings cups when the Eilich family a bunch of his kids run there but they all worked in some capacity for the organization and He's the boss. He can make the rules, I guess. And that one there was even a little controversial because they were like, well, they may work for the team, but not all in sort of high-end rules. But still, they did have something to do with the team. And now, again, I will go back to this.

If you don't take it seriously enough, it's kind of your fault. So they have a rule of how many, 52 names can be on? Yeah, well, it's generally, it holds 52. You can ask for more. Right. But I think they match. it out at 55. Okay.

So that's what the maximum is. They asked for to add more names. They were granted that. But given what we've seen in the past with the Pocklington thing, the people who are in charge of the rules for whose names get on the cup didn't do their job. Like if, if he asked for one extra number, like to go to 53. And they said, yes. Yes.

And so what did he use it for? Did he use it for this guy who played? Yeah, that's my point. of games? But also, also like, why, why isn't it policy that the NHL gets to look at the list? They get to participate in determining who's on the cup. It's their cup. You know, like you're, you're entrusted with it for a year. You won it for a year, but it's not your cup. And so if the if the NHL, and I assume it's the NHL, I don't know if it's the Hockey Hall of Fame, but if the organization in charge of who gets to have their name on the cup is it? Is it? And I'm a, you

going to take it seriously enough to make sure that other minority owners or, you know, team doctors don't get their name on, but instead Caden does, then that's kind of on them. It's kind of like Dundon didn't break a rule, I don't think. It's just, it's a reflection that the rule needs beefing up. If you want this thing to be a reflection of who won the cup and not just be a vanity piece for the Dundon family, then it's on you to beef up the rules. It's on you to say we take this very seriously. And here's how seriously we take it.

We have the ultimate say as to who, whose names go on this cup. Mr. Dundon, congratulations, you won the cup? Oh, you want to put your name on this thing? Tell us the names of the people you want. Okay, so who's Caden? Oh, he's your 12-year-old. Yeah, he can't be on the cup.

It's against our rules. Against our rules and regulations. Sorry, he has nothing. He's too young and he has nothing to do with this. He can take pride knowing that the, Dundon family name is on the cup. This is a fail. It's a fail.

I think it's not a very classy move by the Dundon brood and not a demonstration that the rules regulating whose names can go on the cup are not strong enough. If any owner was going to do it, though, it would be Tom Dundon. If you look into who he is. He also owns the Portland Trailblazers. And yeah, and his nickname is El Chippo. Yeah, that's not a greatest nickname. I mean, he's terrible with contract negotiations.

He under, he just, he gives terrible contracts to coaches to various other people. He cuts out like the things that fans love, like T-shirt give away. He got rid of a mascot for the Blazers. Why? Why? Like that's, you got to have something for the kids. You have the, you have the dancers for the horny teens. You got, you've got the, you got the mascot for. for the families and the kids.

You got the DJ for the music, for the people who enjoy a good beat. There's something for, that's one of the things about going to a basketball game. There's something for everybody. Exactly. And T-shirts for people who think that tickets are too expensive

and there's a chance that you might get something for free. When you cheap out, the fans tend to notice. It's sort of like, you know, the movie Moneyball with the Oakland A's. And one of the things that, I mean, the owner of the Oakland A's is with now the Sacramento A's, I guess. Yeah, no, no.

No, they're going to be the Las Vegas A's, but they're playing in Sacramento. Right, yes. And he's famously cheap, super cheap. And in the movie, the Brad Pitt character is like, no, you've got to pay for your own sodas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the players.

Yeah, I remember that. Nothing is included. I remember that. That movie premiered at Tiff. It was fantastic. That was a great movie. Yeah, and it was the first time I met, who's a Chris, Chris Pratt?

Yeah, Chris Pratt. Yes. Because he had, not a minor role. He played Hattonburg. Yeah. Scott Hattonberg. And he got in good shape for it.

And then he went back to be Andy Dwyer on Parks and Rec and got chubby again and then got super fit. Ridiculous. While doing Guardians of the Galaxy and still had to play Andy Dwyer. So he had to wear oversized shirts. I'm more Andy Dwyer right now than I am Gardens of the Galaxy. But I've got to fix that. You went to the doctor?

I went to the doctor. He said, eh, you got to. I gotta lose more weight. I gotta lose some weight. And I said, really? And then he looked, showed me the number. I went, yeah. Yeah, so Intrepid comes in today and says,

I have to lose weight, I weigh too much. And then, and then like an hour later. But I said, yes. One of the guys who works in the office comes and says, brings him a new chair. And he's like, yes, my new chair. I was like, did you ruin the hydraulics in your chair? No.

Just the other chair was more comfortable. That's what he says. That's what he says. You know, our audience demands authenticity. And if you're going to lie to the viewers and listeners, the Ben Mulroney show, then I don't know what, I don't know what we're doing here, man. Our listeners know that I am the voice of reason.

Our listeners know that you are a liar. Voice of reason, maybe. Liya. All right, we're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we're going to talk to somebody who feels that Canada is losing out because the wrong people are coming into this country and it's time to focus on what we used to do really well,

which is build this country through response. responsible and aggressive and aggressive immigration. This is the Ben-Morny show. Well, if you've listened to this show for a week, at some point in that week, you have heard me say some version of the following. That's one of the greatest failures of the Trudeau years, of which there were many,

at the near the top of the list, is breaking the consensus on immigration that crossed parties and politics. and opinion. By and large, for decades, left and right could agree that this country was built on an incredibly aggressive and smart, self-serving immigration policy. And self-serving is what immigration is supposed to be. It's not a charity. It's about helping this country be the best it can be. And they broke that. And because of that, there are people now who are looking at the state of immigration in Canada, and they are thinking some bad stuff and saying some bad stuff,

and that is a shame that Justin Trudeau should carry forever. My next guest has very passionate opinions about this, and perhaps we can talk about how we can get back to a place where Canada's immigration system is the envy of the world. Shamira Madhany, managing director of World Education Services. Shamira, welcome. Thank you for inviting me, Ben. Yes, absolutely. Okay, so tell me what makes you passionate about this issue.

So what makes me passionate about this issue is the fact that, you know, Canada is basically a land of opportunity. And, you know, for people who are coming here, they want to come and contribute. And what makes me passionate about this particular issue is that we could basically use this. skills to ensure that we remain competitive. Yeah. And we can be leaders in this space again. And so that's why I'm passionate about the fact that immigrants are required. And we need to make sure that we leverage the skills.

And look, I would be lying if I said that I knew all the nuances of our immigration system, as well as the changes that were brought to it besides just opening up the floodgates, which is one of them. but opening up the floodgates and not not going out there and surgically finding what this country needed. Oh, we need engineers. We're going to go get the best engineers. Oh, we got, you know, we got to, we need doctors. We're going to get the best people who want to be doctors and they can study here.

It doesn't seem like we have been doing that. Is that what you're seeing as well? So my perspective is that what's been happening, Ben, is that we didn't take immigration and workforce planning and and have a better. way to connect all their different components. Aligning immigration with credential recognition, licensing, and what the labor market needs were. We saw immigration are separate. Labor market shortages are separate.

And we just said, you know what, let whatever is going to happen is going to happen, bring people in and things will be fine. Yeah, it was, we emphasized quality, quality, not quantity. But, Shemira, let's assume we could get back to that. Let's assume we could get back to it immediately. It feels to me that a separate problem that contributes to the problem that we're talking about is the fact that we've got almost 650,000 skilled immigrants in Canada that are working below their qualifications. And, you know, we've got in medicine, for example, we got about 39,000 trained doctors, but only 41% of foreign educated doctors are licensed to practice medicine in Canada. If we could get them licensed, that solves a big problem about family doctors in this country.

Nursing, similar things. So even if we got everything back on track, we still have to deal with this. This is a choke point. Correct. And just said, the higher figure, Canada is one of the highest overqualification rates among peer countries. This episode is brought to you by Activia. You might already be eating yogurt, but not all yogurts are created equal. Activia contains over 1 billion probiotics per serving to survive and reach the gut alive.

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57% Ben. And so, you know, the way to move forward instead of continuously talking about we have a problem and a backlog is really aligning, as I said, immigration credential recognition licensing. But how that could work is you need to have systems working together. The solution isn't just about the federal government, provincial government licensing bodies. This is where you need collaboration amongst government, regulators, employers, having a joint conversation

around what the country needs from a labor market perspective. and then how together we have systems that are going to get people licensed quickly so they can start contributing. Then when people are coming here, they aren't starting from scratch. They are not new graduates. There's a highly skilled people. And what we need to do to basically move the agenda forward is stop treating people like they're inexperienced new graduates.

It's what are the systems in place where people have a joint conversation, put tools in place that are standardized, harmonized, give people the license and move forward quickly rather than they don't meet our standards. They do. We just need a process in place in collaboration. And Shamina, Shamira, I'm sorry. Something happened over the last 10 years where we went from acknowledging that, you know, building a country by way of immigration is an exceptionally selfish practice.

Like it's self-serving. It's about helping us. And if the immigrant comes and then we pick the right people to come here, they will be successful here. And by extension, Canada will be stronger. That's the bargain. It's not a charity. It's not a, it's not a system built necessarily on compassion as a driving force. But a lot of Canadians think it is.

And that is, if that's what we're going to do, and it does. seem like we tend to pull at the heartstrings when we say, oh, all these new Canadians are coming in. That's not what got us to where we were, and it's certainly not what's going to get us to where we need to be. Correct. So, you know, in terms of statistics, let's just talk about the crisis we're in right now, and it is a crisis. A fertility rate has fallen to 1.25 children per family. A labor force participation is the lower since 1997. We have 25,000. We have 25,000. workers retiring every month and a low birth rate. We need immigrants, Ben.

And so the question right now, this isn't about, you know, we're helping immigrants because they want to come to our country and we're doing them a favor. This isn't a social work issue. This is a labor market issue. This is about keeping Canada competitive and not losing the wrong people. So again, from my perspective, Canada has the talent and wants to bring in the talent. what we need to do is make it easier for talented people to work in the field that they're being trained for. So they're not driving Uber's cabs and whatever.

A lot of them are just spinning. They're spinning their tires, pun intended, driving these Uber's when what they really want to be doing is they want to be an engineer or a nurse or they want to be a doctor because that's what they were. But I also think, Shamir, that if we got back to that responsible, strategic, laser-focused version of what we used to have, I think that one of the positive knock on effects is improve social cohesion. And what I mean by that is we would see far less of these. We would see far less of the headlines in the newspapers about how someone's immigration status, someone who committed a crime, their immigration status was being used as a shield to keep them in the country. That doesn't make people feel good about their neighbor.

But if the stories were instead of someone who came from India, and they became a doctor and they saved someone's life. You put enough of those stories together and all of a sudden people are proud of their immigrant neighbors again. A hundred percent, Ben. So this isn't an immigration story. This is, in fact, a workplace strategy story. This is about how we want to make sure that we remain competitive and have better planning.

And the people who are coming are contributing. The scientists, their doctors, the nurses, their researchers. They're opening up businesses all across the country in rural areas, northern areas. Yeah. You know, we need individuals to contribute as much as they want to come and contribute. It's a two-state story from my perspective. Yeah, and Shamir, if they come here and they can ply their craft as they want and they can have a life that they couldn't have from where they came from, They are going to love this country.

They will be Canadian in their DNA. And as opposed to people, at least on the outside, it looks like some feel like they're here because the social safety net and money from the government and that sort of thing. And that is not a good look. And I'll say this last thing, Shamira. We don't want to be talking about this anymore. We want this to work. We want these bad decisions to be reversed so that we can get back to taking for granted that, immigrants built this country.

That's all I'll say about that. 100%. And then, the last thing I'm going to leave you with is that Canada is missing out on up to $50 billion a year because these immigrants aren't working in jobs that match the skills. Yeah. And think about the impact on the country. And so we want to get back to a place where Canada is an attractive destination.

We want people to come and contribute the skills. We meet their skills. And therefore, the story is really. about the benefits that immigrants bring versus the fact that they're taking away. This is... You need to change that storyline. Shamira Matt Honey, thank you very much. And look, this is an example of Canada getting in its own way.

Get out of your own way, Canada, so that we can succeed together. Shamira, thank you very much. And remember to find us on YouTube, we upload all the time. And don't just watch, but subscribe. That helps us grow the channel. And we want this show to be the biggest version of itself. on all platforms. When we come back, our good friend

David Cooper, the host of the last show on the Chorus Network, joins me for Cooper's Curiosity's. Well, you are listening to the Ben Mulroney show, but for the purpose of this segment, it's a conversation between myself and David Cooper, the host of the last show on the Chorus Network. David, welcome. Thank you, Ben. Welcome

you to you as English. How does, yeah. Hi. The words, the words that we use can sometimes elude. us. David did you end up checking will call and seeing if you got tickets to the Taylor Swift wedding. I was oddly not invited.

It was really rude. She didn't call this time around. You were rebuffed. I was rebuked, rebuffed, rebutted, rebutted. Rebuffed with extreme prejudice. This aggression will not stand, man. Yeah. I don't know.

I hear it was a due. No photos, though. So who knows if it was a good do? I hear it was fantastic. I mean, you got Stevie Nix performing, right? That's worth the price. That's worth the price of admission right there. All right, let's talk about some of these.

I love your show because your brain catches stories that mine would miss, right? And so I'm glad that you're the dragnet that's sort of collecting these really interesting stories and then breaking them down. A UK study shows increased car traffic in a neighborhood increases crime. If I saw that, I would say, well, yeah, no doi. Like, of course. But why? How does it work? These researchers figured it out. Yeah, like, I'm thinking, oh, I see smog, I hear loud noises, therefore I'm angry, therefore I'll commit crimes.

That's not how it works. Well, no, I would have just assumed, of course, more cars means more crime because more cars means more people and more people could lead to more crime. Is that not it? Well, I'm not one of these smart researchers that I talk to, however. So that may be part of it. But their big finding was it decreases the whole neighborhood vibe of the place. It divides neighbors.

And then you don't get that real community aspect when you got cars whipping through a residential zone. Neighbors have less dinner parties. And somehow, the lack of cooperation means less things like neighborhood watch. Remember that before we had, I don't know, doorbell cams? All right. And that's how the crime happens. Interesting. I mean, but would this be something specific to the UK? Because their towns and cities are built differently than in North America. Hi, I'm Jane Koston, former writer and podcaster for places like the New York Times, the Atlantic and National Review.

And now I'm here to hang out with you five days a week on what a day, Crooked's Daily News podcast. That's right. Now who's respected on both sides. Okay, yeah, it's not me. It's probably still just Dolly Parton. Moving on. These days, it's hard to separate what matters. from all the noise, especially when the noise somehow also feels like it's made out of knives? That's why every weekday, the team and I scour the headlines to bring you the stories that matter most to the way you live in just 20 minutes. Listen to the show wherever you get your podcasts. I do ask these researchers that because I talk to people from around the world. I always say, how would this work in the U.S. context, in the Canadian context, in the Australian context. And they had a, you know, a car.

They looked at Los Angeles, which I don't know if you know, there are one or two cars in that city. Just a few. Yeah. And they found that the connections were all pretty much the same. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the, yeah, L.A. is a, it's a city of neighborhoods, right? And they, and if you have a friend who lives on the west side and you don't live on the west side,

you're never, you're never seen. Yeah, you don't have a friend. Yeah. You have a pen pal. Yeah. No, it's a horrible place. If you like cars, maybe it's a great place, but it's like for transit. Not that I'm like, yeah, it's not a, not for me.

But, you know, you're, you know, I haven't been in New York in a while, but I've noticed that they've put a lot of time into making the city more walkable and adding more communal spaces and closing down entire lanes of traffic for bicycles, but also, you know, Times Square has far fewer cars in it than it did 15 years ago, right? What's your impression of that, the attempt to do that in a city like New York? You know, I've seen it in Toronto where I'm from,

and I've seen it a little bit in New York. But it's different. It is different. Toronto was never, was never intended to be a great, world capital like New York. So we never built the broad boulevards, right? We don't have any of those. We're very, very few of them.

And because of that, we're asking cars and drivers and pedestrians and cyclists and whoever else to share a very narrow road. And that presents challenges. Where New York's got these broad boulevards, you can maybe afford to lose a lane here and there. Yeah, people aren't as up in arms. They get mad about losing parking, I'd say more than they get mad about. bike lanes. I don't know. If you're nuts enough to drive in Times Square and think you're going to get through like with any ease and then you're somehow angry about bikes and pedestrians, you're out of your

mind. Everyone knows to stay away from there. So I don't think anyone cares that that section is cut off to traffic, except for cabbies maybe. I don't know. All right. This other, this is here's another story where the headline is, study examines how many YouTubers offering nutrition advice are actually qualified to give it. In short, not many. And again, not surprised by that. Now, like, what determines that? Because if you looked at my Instagram feed,

I am being bombarded with being told, I have to consume more protein. Protein protein powder. Is that the type of nutritional advice that we're talking about? That to me doesn't seem like it would rise to the level of what I would call nutritional advice. That's somebody who's just saying,

eat more protein. Yeah, it's like, Like pseudoscience, like people will pick up on one chemical in cashews that might be bad for you. If you have a rare form of cancer and cashews are good for everyone and they're just a nut. And then they'll say, okay, cashews kill you. And then people will leave this stuff. And so like someone with a background in nutrition who studies at a university, I think in Halifax, I feel bad if she's somewhere else. But she basically went through it and actually tested the claims and look at what the research says of the claims.

And basically a lot of these channels are sponsored by the protein powders. Right, right. Okay. Yeah. And second of all, they're false. Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, it's all, it's all about the peptides now, man. I don't know what a peptide is.

I don't know what it is either, but I know I need it. Apparently, I'm being told it's all about the peptides. It's about the peptides. And it's also about waking up at 4 a.m. And doing 30 minutes of gratitudes and then active listening to my body. Well, and then gratitude journaling apparently works. I haven't tried it, but I have a friend. who you would never imagine would gratitude journal.

This guy's like, you know, like a flannel shirt, shotgun shooting. He's not, he's not, you know, he's whatever that stereotype I'm painting in my mind that would not write gratitude journals. And yet he swears by them. So that's all I can say. And that's fine too. But again, like, sorry, unless you're waking up and listening to three books on three times speed before breakfast, then I'm running circles around you. So the link is in my bio to the class that I'm going to sell you for $199. Right.

And you can be as successful as I. There's that. Also, if someone's selling you like, oh, join my course, pay me money and then your gratitude journal. You can just do this on your own. Wake up and write a few things you're happy about. Boom, done. You got the benefits. You don't need to listen to anyone on YouTube.

But don't forget to cold plunge your testicles every morning. Cold plunger testes. I do like a cold plunge. I'm not going to lie. specifically for the undercarriage. That's the way to really wake up. According to Ben Maruni, influencer.

No, no, no. Sponsored by a cold plunge protein power, maybe. I've never cold plunged in my life. Have you? I have, yeah. After a sauna? It makes you feel alive, Ben. It makes you feel alive.

I thought just walking around. But, and I didn't cover this this week. I covered this months ago. But cold plunges are actually not that great for your health. They can cause cardiac events. So I like them. And for people in Scandinavia, you know, like Sweden, where they do it, great, it's fine for their health. Their bodies are used to it.

But for the average person, a cold plunge, if someone tells you it's healthy, it may not be. Having said that, I like them, but they're not that great for your health. We only have a minute left. I'm sorry, but I got caught up in this. But there are two types of people in the world. They're the people who return their carts at the grocery store and those who do not. I always do because I think that it's just one tiny little thing I can do to add a little order to the chaos. And you never have to face the poor schmuck who has to return your cart.

And so it's a thankless job. It's like tipping in a hotel to a maid that you're never going to see, but they're going to have to clean your room. So it's one of those like acts of kindness. Yeah. Do we have time to get into the story? I don't know. But having said that return your cards.

We don't. Yeah. There's a guy that your hero, the cart nark who, what does he do? Tell everyone what he does. He confronts people who don't return their cars. And I believe he does it like in either Florida or Texas. The guys have a gun pulled on. But anyway, on my show earlier in the week, we spoke to a professor who analyzed why rage bait this type of content is not good for you.

And I believe the professor, but I'm still watching cartnarks. I'm still watching this guy confront shoppers who don't return their cards. It's the simplest, easiest thing you can do to restore balance to your chi. And I just made that up. I don't even know what that means. David Cooper, thank you very much. All the best to you, my friend. Hey, y'all.

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