The Ben Mulroney Show - Traffic, crime and the mayor of mayhem

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

Guests and Topics: -Traffic gridlock thanks to an SIU investigation -Party to a crime? No jail time -Does Ontario's welfare system hates love? -Mayor of Mayhem released on netflix If you enjoyed the podcast, tell a friend! For more of the Ben Mulroney Show, subscribe to the podcast! https://globalnews.ca/national/program/the-ben-mulroney-show Follow Ben on Twitter/X at https://x.com/BenMulroney Enjoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to the Ben Mulroney Show. You are you are listening to the Ben Mulroney Show. Thank you very much for joining us. It's Tuesday, June 17th, 2025. And if you're watching this on YouTube, then you can see on my face that I'm beginning this show annoyed. Annoyed AF! Because I was trying to make my way to work today, and I got here late, and I got here late because like thousands of Torontonians, the choke point that is the vital artery of the Gardiner Expressway, as well as other streets around it,

were shut down for hours upon hours upon hours upon hours. Because a well let's see. So let's start at the beginning, I guess, in late last night, some car jackers, some car thieves got themselves a nice car at the shops at Don Mills and the cops were in pursuit that took them down the Don Valley Parkway. They get on the Gardner around Jarvis. They box the guy in. He gets out of the car and decides he's going to take the chance. Now they're going to get arrested on the Gardner or he's going to take a chance jumping from the Gardner onto Lakeshore. Four stories. I don't know what injuries he sustained. I do know he sustained injuries. He probably broke some ankles as well as some other bones, maybe a hip bone. I hope he's in a

lot of pain. And because he sustained, quote, serious injury, the Special Investigation Unit was called in, SIU, and they are brought in. They are the independent civilian led agency tasked with investigating incidents involving police when these events result in death, serious injury, discharge of a firearm at a person, or an allegation of sexual assault. And so they go over the crime scene with a fine tooth comb. They've got to interview everybody. This is a process by which the people like us, we get to know that the cops are behaving properly. But the world in which we live today is not the world in which the SIU was born.

And I do not think that the SIU needed to be called in on this case. And I certainly don't think that the result should have been the closure of major arteries in this city for so many hours that it caused congestion at peak hours when people are trying to get to work. I don't care about this criminal. I don't. I don't. I care about the people trying to get to work. I care about the people trying to get to cancer treatments at the hospital or get on a plane to go visit a family member or go to a job interview. These are the people I care about, the taxpayers that are just trying to live their lives. And I don't care about the criminal and I am mad and I am upset that people in key decision-making positions have turned me into this guy who can look at

you with a straight face and say I don't care about the criminal because I used to care I used to care a lot I wanted everybody to be treated fairly. And I don't think people are being treated fairly. Nobody cares about you. Nobody cares about the people just trying to live their lives. Who are trying to make ends meet. Who had something bad happen to them and they're trying to go or had something bad happen to someone they know and they were going to try to visit them. Can't do that. I was just trying to get to work today. The stress, the minor stress that was caused by that major inconvenience is nothing compared to the thousands of people had far more important things

to do. And, but because we have to make sure that the criminal who chose to jump, mind you, that's why there's a serious injury. He chose to jump. And because of that, all of our lives were affected. All of us. This is nonsense.

So my humble recommendation is this, the mandate of the SIU needs to be, not investigated, it needs to be overhauled because we are living in an increasingly violent city because we are increasingly permissible, permissive towards a violent crime. And we just let it happen. And so this is going to happen more often, more serious injury. I mean, look at this. I mean, what does this mean? Um, investigate incidents involving police. When these incidents would result in death, serious injury, discharge of a firearm. Well,

Christ, we've got criminals all over the city have illegal firearms. So all they got to do is just, you know, pop one off and they can close down the city for as long as need, as long as need be. I swear when I was driving in today and I heard Greg Brady talking about this incident, it was before I hit traffic. My first instinct was why the hell was the SIU called in? Oh, because the guy decided to jump to avoid the police. Yeah, so I'm ticked off about this. Fortunately, though, the city has a solution for the other traffic ills that we have,

and it's a traffic blitz. They're going to position cops to give $190 tickets at key intersections if you're blocking traffic, if you're stopping for a delivery or you're dropping off like Uber. And I read this, I was like, I remember when John Tory did the exact same thing, the exact same thing, the traffic blitz that was going to solve everything, solve nothing. We're in the cause of congestion, then what is a bike lane if not a permanently parked Uber and repeated every centimeter for the entirety of all of these major streets. Bike lanes don't cause congestion, but a double parked car does. Don't talk to me like I'm a friggin' idiot. If you really want to solve these problems, have an honest conversation with Torontonians.

You're not going to solve traffic in this city unless you own up to the fact that it's on certain streets bike lanes do not belong. And I'm so tired of this performative nonsense like a hundred ninety dollar ticket for an uber just dropping someone off but a bike lane doesn't cause congestion. This is why we don't get anything done in this city. This is why we are at a standstill because we have people who are absolutely willing

to look the taxpayer in the eye and try to sell them on a reality that does not exist. They are trying to will and manifest the Netherlands in Toronto, where bicycles run amok and flowers are free and windmills are everywhere. None of that exists here. And until we own up to the fact that we are trying to engineer a reality that does not exist, that cannot exist in the city of Toronto, traffic is going to get worse and 190 bucks per ticket is not going to solve it.

When we come back, something else is ticking me off. Participating in a crime that could lead to someone's death and you could walk off scot-free. We're going to discuss that with you after the break on the Ben Mulroney Show. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. I'm going to try to calm down from my height of anger and frustration due to the closure of the Gardener because a criminal believed he could fly, which is part of the course for violent criminals in the city. Criminals are stupid. And like I said, I hope he's in a lot of pain today because he caused a lot of pain for a lot of commuters

just trying to live their lives. So we're coming down off of that ledge and we're going to ramp up onto another one because this next segment is, we're going to entitle this one, Getting Away With It. Soft on Crime. It's the mantra of this country in my humble estimation.

And I don't think I'm alone in feeling that if you want, if you do a crime, you're not gonna do the time. So let's just all do crime. And as an example of a woman who helped a criminal in Leslieville in a fatal shootout, she walked out of court with no jail time. So she was a supervisor, she was supervising users in a fatal shootout. She walked out of court with no jail time. So she was supervising users at a safe injection site

and she became friendly with a gentleman and she helped him flee the scene of the crime and she hid his connection to the crime. There was a shootout, Someone died. And this woman helped one of the people involved in that crime get away with it temporarily. But she felt really bad about it. She felt really bad. She said, not a day goes by that I don't think about the woman who was killed and my role in it. And that was enough for the judge. Community service, time served, in it and that that was enough for the judge, community service, time served,

do the rest of your sentence in the community. If this had happened in the United States, she would have been found guilty or she would have been charged in a manner that would have been as if she had pulled the trigger herself. If you help a criminal in the furtherance of their crime and that results in a murder that's

felony murder and you're not an accessory you were charged as if you pulled the trigger. Keep in mind I should state I am not a lawyer. I went to law school but that's the extent of my knowledge but that's what would happen there and instead because she felt really bad, she walks out. Meanwhile, the woman who was killed is still dead. And that's the only way to say it. She will be dead forever. And this woman gets to rebuild her life but she feels really bad about it. And she's not the only one.

There was a woman in Calgary who worked for 911 and she became romantically involved with a guy who was involved in a really bad, a violent organized crime gang. And she used her position to access top secret information at 911 to take screenshots and send them to this person. And we don't know what happened beyond that, but like, do you think that they

used the information on rival gang members to send those people edible arrangements? Yeah, that's probably what happened. So she had to pay a big fine. And that was it. But like, this is what I want to have the conversation I want to have with you at four one six eight seven zero sixty four hundred or one triple eight two two five talk if You don't pull the trigger, but somebody dies Even if you feel bad shouldn't you get more than a slap on the wrist? Give us a call four one six eight seven zero sixty four hundred one triple eight two two five talk look. Let's throw it back Let's throw it back to the conversation we just had.

So the genius carjacker made decisions that caused, let's call it, I mean, I don't know how much lost productivity we had in this city. But if you make those decisions that lead the city to close the the the Gardner, I think part of your part of your charge you should be you should be forced to pay the city back for the what the police had to spend to catch you. That's what happens when an idiot gets lost in the mountains

and he goes off off-piste and the fire and rescue have to go get him. He is responsible for the bill. So why isn't this criminal responsible for the bill? I think we need a rethink of what it means to be punished for crimes in this country. Maybe we should do a complete rethink where it's not all jail time, but a major financial remuneration to the city,

to the state, I don't know. But we've got people who are helping people who pull triggers, but because they feel bad, they get to go home. We got people who are helping organized crime find their rivals, and they have a fine levied against them. This is the Canada of 2025. I'm not here for it, folks.

I'm not here for it. Alex, welcome to the show. Alex, you there? Hello. Hey, Alex, welcome. Hi. Hello. Hi.

I love your show. Thank you. Hi. You know, I just want to say that, to be honest, criminals have to be accountable for what they do. And because the crime is getting worse and worse. Actually, my friend, he's a police officer and what we know in the media, all over the place, there's 30% of 70. It's really bad out there.

And I think that we need to work, not we, society see already everything. We've been screaming actually, it's all the long, the politicians, they need to take action. Because I think after 2019, when catch and release policy was introduced, that things start getting much, much worse. And I even know, I have a friend that her car he drives to your highlander very nice car right yeah that's not that fancy get she got her car got stolen twice yeah can you imagine yeah I know somebody I know somebody whose car has been stolen four times um one more day yeah I just came back with my wife from Florida you know what somebody gets to your backyard you're allowed to shoot yeah can I tell you something?

Yeah. She says, my friend lives there. Yeah. We have no problems. Yeah. Peaceful. People love each other. Yeah.

Can you imagine? Yeah. We have politicians doing wrong things. Yeah. Alex, thank you very much for the call. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. And look, like I've said before that I'm willing to give the federal

liberals a lot of leash, a lot of runway to accomplish a few things before I start judging them. However, there's something I can say right now. If you are somebody like we've already seen indications from this government that they already believe that the criminal justice system in Canada is robust. I believe our new justice minister said as much in the House of Commons. There was an alternative on the ballot that promised to get tough on crime real quick, and that was the conservatives. If you are somebody in the City of Toronto that voted liberal and you are frustrated with crime, I don't know what to say you probably have you probably have it coming like sorry but you voted for the

guys who brought in these laws and who are now saying that the criminal justice system in Canada is robust so if you are somebody who is worried about crime in the city of Toronto but didn't vote for the tough on crime party, you got to look yourself in the mirror. You do, because there was an alternative that was going to crack down right quick. And instead you've got, now look, they've got a lot on their plate, but we are living in an emergency right now.

Nick, welcome to the show. Thank you for calling in. All right, Ben. Yeah, going back to your point about the damages and stuff, aside to the show. Thank you for calling in. All right, Ben. Yeah. Going back to your point about the damages and stuff, aside from the justice system, which we know is completely skewed. Yeah. Who's paying for all these cruisers that got damaged?

I mean, the criminal should be responsible because it seems like bail is quite low these days if everybody's getting back out frequently. Then why aren't they covering, for example, guardrail damages, bridge damages, in the hundred thousandth of a million dollars. I understand that some of it may not be repaid fully, but there has to be some sort of system where repayment, right? A hundred percent. If you're committing a crime and you know that you're not responsible for any damage that occurs as you're going, then why don't you just run into a whole bunch of stuff as

you're doing it? Like cause mayhem, force the cops to look elsewhere, have them deal with more stuff as you're trying to get away. Like, yeah, exactly. The city's strapped and it's like, well, if they're going to pay $10,000 bail, let's just say figure to leave. Um, let's add another 50,000 in there to cover some of the cruiser damages. Why do I have to pay for it? Nick, thank you so much for the call. Let's go to Frank real quick. Frank, thanks for calling in. Good morning, Ben. Good morning. You know, whether or not it's an accessory to the crime during the instance of that crime or accessory after the fact, I think that these people that are involved in the criminal

activity or protecting the actual criminal committee in the act should be ordered to pay restitution. Yeah. It's happened many years ago in a shooting that went sour on this mob family or mob group to try to take down somebody. And they ended up shooting the wrong person, an innocent victim. The people that got convicted of that first degree murder charge were ordered to pay restitution. I think it was in excess of or around a million dollars. Wow. Yeah. Let's listen. I think. And that is a deterrent unto itself.

If you know that you're on the hook for that, you're going to think twice about before doing the crime. We've got time for Mike. Thank you for calling. Morning, Ben. How are you doing? I'm well. Thank you. Good. So yeah, I think if a capital crime involves a death, all people involved need to be convicted as if they are responsible solely for that death. Yeah. And the big problem though, Ben, in terms of the laws having teeth, the lawmakers are so out of touch with the reality of the common man. Yep. They've never been hungry, cold, wet for too long or unhoused.

So they don't identify with the effect that it really has on the people that live in the cities where they make these laws. But again, again, again, the people in these cities voted for a party that created this problem. So where is where does the responsibility lie? I don't take responsibility because I didn't vote for this party. But there are people here who are subjected to crime who voted for a party that caused these problems. Anyway, thank you very much for your calls. We got a great conversation on the other side of the break about Ontario's welfare system. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back to the Ben Mulrooney show. And now time for a

really important conversation. And we talk about the housing crisis that is especially in low cost housing across this country. There there's not enough enough of it and what we have is that we need to build more and we need to optimize the system as best we can to make sure that those who can only afford to get into a certain level of housing have access. But if one hand doesn't know what the other is doing and if one hand is working in opposition to the other hand does anything get done? The answer is absolutely no, not because this is Canada and there isn't a problem that we have that we can't make worse if we put our minds to it.

And the Ontario welfare system apparently is a system that is actually working to make it to disincentivize people to live together. It encourages recipients to live alone despite the housing crisis. And the person who has highlighted this in the Globe and Mail is Erica Alini. Erica, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. So yeah, the welfare system reduces benefits significantly when recipients move in with a romantic partner. Make this make sense. Yeah, so the general idea does make sense, right? Like when you move in with somebody else, like, you know, coupling up, generally speaking,

is a good move financially, you're sharing rent, you're sharing a mortgage, you know. We all know this, living together under one roof generally lowers your cost of living. So it does make sense that to a certain extent, benefits would be reduced. But the problem is, the clawback is massive for social assistance in Ontario. And it's so big that it outweighs any cost savings that you get from moving in with a romantic partner. And you break down some of those numbers and we'll get to those. But we're not talking about best case scenarios here.

We're talking about people on welfare. And so what you just described about cost savings, that's for like, that's when I move in with my girlfriend, right? Oh, we're going to save some money and then we can take that money and we can put it towards, you know, but possibly a down payment when we ultimately get married.

This, the people who are on welfare are experiencing a different life than someone like myself. And so I don't, that logic shouldn't be the governing principle of the welfare system, should it? Yes, and you are absolutely right. So even if you're very low income, there are some cost savings from holding it together.

But the problem is, these benefits are so small already. It's so hard to survive on them that, you know, any clawback at this point from such a low level makes it impossible, right? It makes it impossible to survive. And the example that you give is jarring. Two welfare recipients living alone receive just under $1,500 combined. But if they move in together, this drops to $1,136. That's a 22.5% income loss. That's a huge amount of money when you are somebody who's counting your pennies and depend very significantly on the amount of money that is provided.

Absolutely. That's like more than $300 out of less than $1,200 a month. So it's massive. And listen, in an ideal situation, if we are living in a world of no want, except I realize in saying that, I, but we still have a welfare system. But if we, if our, if our, the housing crisis was not where it is, if we had more than enough supply of low-income

housing, then you might be able to understand the logic that we've just laid out here. But we don't live in that world. We live in a world where every single know, every single low income unit is so vital. And yet we are disincentivizing people from coupling up. Yeah. And obviously you don't want to, you know, end up, you know, swing to the opposite end where we're forcing people to to live together. Like you, you don't want someone to become financially dependent on somebody else so that they can't move out if they need to.

But yeah, but you're absolutely right. We have an enormous shortage of affordable housing, sort of properly, even the strict definition of subsidized housing. And we also have a tremendous shortage of just low rent units. And we have this welfare system that's designed to essentially, it really disincentivizes people from moving together and sitting on rent that way, which would free up this really, you know, having, finding a subsidized housing unit can really change somebody's life these days. It takes years.

People are on a wait list for years. Yeah, I mean, but I could see somebody, I could see a couple who love each other and they are both in the welfare system. I could see them saying, listen, I love you, but I'm not moving in with you because if I do, I'm gonna take a hit. And that unit that that person is staying in,

which they are being forced to stay in, given their circumstance, could be opened up for one, possibly even two people. And we are not living in a time where we can afford to, for people to make choices like that. And it's frustrating, Eric, and well, I'm thankful you've written this because you gotta know the lay of the land.

We've gotta be able to see every aspect of this crisis. We're not helping ourselves here. It seems like as one, the boat is filling up with water. And as people on one side of the boat are taking water out, there's people on the other side putting water back in. And when you look at it this way, it's just so disheartening and defeating that I just don't know that we say we wanna tackle

these challenges. I don't think we're doing the requisite work to do so. Yeah, and this is also the result of a welfare system that has become incredibly complicated to navigate. Hold on, hold on, Erica, are you telling me that we have a bloated bureaucracy where money is going in and it's not being optimized? Don't don't tell me that because that's news to me. It's you know this this like this really severe callback of benefits. Everything I've heard doing in my reporting like everyone agreed that it's all really by design like a certain level of callback like a little bit of a reduction in benefits for people who live both got benefits and live in a couple makes sense. But this level of callback is not really the result of anything that was done

intentionally. It's a result of layers of layers of tweaking different parts of the system in a way that no longer makes sense together. Well, listen, Eric, I want to thank you for highlighting this. Like I said, you know, not it's not as it's not a story I wanted to read, but I'm glad I did because the more information we have, the more armed with knowledge we are, the more adept we can be at tackling a problem. And if I didn't know this, I wouldn't look at this as a as a as a key thing to address in order to free up some well, not just free up low income housing for people who need it, but to make the system more equitable for those who rely on it.

So thank you very much. I appreciate your time and I appreciate your reporting. Thank you so much. All right. When we come back, we're going to be talking about a new documentary on Netflix about a former mayor of this city who, if I may be so bold, I kind of miss these days. Don't go anywhere. This is The Ben Mulroney Show. Welcome back to The Ben Mulroney Show. Netflix is good at a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff. They're getting into live events. They've got original content and they've got this, they got into sports documentaries, which are really good.

But they've got this new, I don't know if it's new, I've only noticed it recently, like a themed documentary series called Trainwreck that looks at seminal events where about Travis Scott, the rapper. He had a festival called Astroworld. He's from Houston. And it's a phenomenal, phenomenal case study of when a concert goes wrong. I think 11 people got crushed to death. 10 people got crushed to death at this massive event. And they recreate it and explain what went wrong. And I think in the next couple of days, they're releasing the story of what's commonly known as the poop

cruise, a carnival cruise that just became dead in the water with like thousands of people on board. And when I say dead in the water, I mean the toilets wouldn't flush and they were in the middle of the Gulf of America. And the video is gross. But everything goes off the rails. Well, now they've got Mayor of Mayhem coming to Netflix. I think it was today that looks at the turbulent time of our mayor, Rob Ford.

Let's listen to the Josh Matlow clip. For the first year, he was able to get his agenda passed. He just said, if you agree with me, I'll work with you. And if you don't, I will destroy you. I like that. So strong mayor before he had the strong mayor powers. And look, I want to talk to you at 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225-TALK. I'm sure it's going to bring us all back to a time where we were living in crazy town. I think that's what people called it. It was crazy town. And John Tory came in as the calming tonic

that I think the city needed after 40 tumultuous years of Rob Ford. Rob Ford, but look, the guy had his warts, he had his demons, we all knew of them. Things were crazy at City City Hall. I Not for nothing It takes two to tango, right? It really does and the The the press in this city and across the country and indeed the world ate it up and helped fuel that fire

Not to make up for his his problems But look, he privatized garbage collection. He froze property tax and balanced budgets. He increased funding for road repairs and he called it as he saw it. There was a war on the car and people called him an alarmist. You tell me today if there hasn't been a war on the car. There was a moral clarity about Doug Ford or Rob Ford. And I am not saying I want to go back to those days at all. But here's something I'm pretty sure of. He would have stood firmly with the Jewish people of this city. He would have called out the hate on our streets. And he probably would have gotten trouble because I bet dollars to doughnuts that he would have had a conversation with the police chief.

And he said, I don't know what the heck you're doing. You're not doing anything. Get out there and free up our streets because these protests have gone on long enough. And I'm not spending another $20 million to kowtow and coddle these petulant protesters who think they're entitled to take over an intersection whenever they feel like it. Like Rob Ford would have done that. Rob Ford would have done that.

So I wanna hear from you 416-870-6400 or 1-888-225-TALK. Is this a documentary whose time has come? Are we now past the point of being emotional about it? Or does it miss the boat? Maybe as a Torontonian, you lived it and you don't need it recounted. I mean, I remember it in real time and it was fascinating. And I was there with my popcorn for a lot of it. And when Ford's time in office was done,

I thought, OK, now we're going to calm down a little bit. But you know, you got to, he was a man of the moment. He was a man of the moment. And I miss the clarity that He was a man of the moment. And I miss, I miss the clarity that comes with a leader like that. He knew who he was. He was a, he, and he cared about this city. He cared about this city and he cared about the people in the city. And people really like to focus on his failures and his failings. but he loved this city and

people thought he could not get elected I mean honestly when you heard him talk and you saw how he looked he wasn't supposed to win and he did and he won because there was no better politician in this city who knew how to connect with people authentically he would hand people his business card and he meant it it wasn't a thing call me you got You had a problem? Call me. And if he called, their call got picked up and the issue, especially in his ward, got dealt with. And given where we are and given what's happened to this city, can you honestly say that you're not looking back at at his time and who he was and what he valued and how he governed a little more charitably than you

did back then? Because I sure as hell do. John, welcome to the show. Hello. Hello. Yes, john, welcome. Yeah, thanks. Ben. Yeah, look, I don't miss Rob Ford. As I said to your producer, I think any credibility he had at one point in time, he chose to throw it away or unfortunately didn't have the capability to prevent himself from throwing it away.

We need people that are mature, that are responsible, and that can have meaningful dialogues in helping government to perform. Well, just tell me where those people are and I'll vote for them, man. But I haven't seen them. Nice try. Nice try, Ben. Nice try.

What? It's a genuine good faith question. Where are those people today? No, it's not. You don't get to say that to me. Yes, I do. Go ahead. I'm a caller.

Yes, I do. Go ahead. I'm a caller. Yes, I do. Okay, well, listen, as a caller, I'm going to hang up on you if you don't answer my question. I'm going to hang up if you don't answer my question. Where are those leaders today? Where are the leaders today who are taking... I'm asking you a question, man. If you can't answer, go away.

Listen, listen to me. Oh, you want me to go away. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, thank you. I asked you a question. You away? Thank you. Thank you. Okay, thank you. I asked you a question. You didn't answer it. Where are those leaders today?

If you get upset over it, it was a genuine question about, oh, we need people who are going to engage in conversation. Where are those people today? Because when I want to engage in conversation about gridlock in this city, or cops not doing their job Where are the answers at city hall where the answers from our police officers? John didn't want to answer that question

He did it wasn't a gotcha question Show me where those people are today because I guarantee you if those questions have been put to to ford He would have answered them. You might not like the answer, but he would have talked to you He would have engaged with you lisa. Welcome to the show Hi, dad. How are you? Yeah. Hi. That's good. I love your show. I love you. I think you're absolutely amazing. Thank you. Amazing person. Rob Ford. I really liked Rob Ford. I started listening to Rob for before I became mayor. Yeah. Be on a morning program all the time, talk about the issues at City Hall. He was very detailed and a lot of things that he said made a lot of sense. And that's why a lot of people surrounded themselves around him and voted for him to

be mayor. That's just unfortunate. Whatever demons was going on in his personal life or behind the scenes, it spilled over into the Yes. And that's the unfortunate thing. But he's a politician that if he needs something done, he would get it done. Yeah. And nowadays, I can't even get my city councilor to get return my phone call. Well, that's what I was just trying to tell to our good friend, John. There is no, you know, just because somebody walks the straight line, the straight and narrow, and speaks well and sounds like a gentleman, if you can't get them on the phone, then what does it matter?

What does it matter if they're polite? What does it matter if they present well? And not for nothing, and I hope I'm not getting my timeline wrong. Oh, you'll remember. You'll remember that Rob Ford went to rehab and and and while he was in rehab, I believe he was diagnosed with cancer. We got time for really quick on a line for welcome the show real quick. Steven. Hey, thanks. Yeah. Thanks for taking my call. I had a business in a toe topical. He looked after he gave me his business card. He said if you ever have a problem, call me. I had a business in the topical. He looked after, he gave me his business card. He said, if you ever have a problem, call me. I live in Rosedale and I had a neighbor and my counselor was doing nothing about it. The neighbor was a big problem. Yeah. Called

Rob Ford out of the blue. He said, not to worry. I'll look after you. Within a day, the problem disappeared. I was loyal to him and I voted for him. Well thank you very much for that. The best high-concept sci-fi rig of her own in the universe is back. What the hell? How long was I out? The best high-concept sci-fi rig of her all in the universe is back Close airlock seven Please let me out put you in there for a reason speed Your season Sundays on adult swim stream on stack TV get your mouth rounded