The Ben Mulroney Show - US Consulate in Toronto shot at / Shlomo the mentalist messes with Ben

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

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This podcast is brought to you by the National Payroll Institute, the leader for the payroll profession in Canada, setting the standard of professional excellence, delivering critical expertise, and providing resources that over 45,000 payroll professionals rely on. All right, another day, another shooting in the city of Toronto, if three synagogues wasn't enough for you. Somebody decided it was a good idea to take shots at the U.S. consulate. So we talked about that, and then we brought Michael Kersner, the Solicitor General of Ontario, into the conversation and talk about how we can finally get it right, the things we have gotten so wrong, not just in Toronto, but across the Western world, dealing with this anger, dealing with this anti-Western sentiment, and he's got some stern and strong words about how

we're going to move forward in the province of Ontario. And then I had my mind blown by magician and mentalist Shlomo Levenger. He's known as the magician to the athletes. And he did something on the show that absolutely blew my mind. I can't wait for you to see it. So let's get right into it. Time for the Ben Mulroney Show podcast. Shots fired at the U.S. consulate. This is Canada in 26. You'll remember Canada that just yesterday we reported that three synagogues in the city of Toronto were shot at over the course of the weekend. And now bullet holes. I don't think they're bullet holes because that is a hardened target. But bullets ricocheted off of the building that houses American citizens and employees of the American government in downtown Toronto just earlier today.

Let's listen to the police scrum about this consulate shooting and when it happened. There has also been some evidence to suggest that the shooting, the firearm discharge, may have taken place as early as 429 in the morning. There is witness evidence to show that a vehicle traveling westbound on Dundas Street, a white Honda CRV, turned southbound at University Avenue and stopped in front of 361 University, the U.S. consulate. There, two individuals emerged from the vehicle, discharged at what appears to be a handgun at the front of the building and then got back into their vehicle and drove southbound.

5 a.m. in downtown Toronto, for those of you don't live here, is not a ghost town. There are people around. People are getting to work. It's a bit. There are parts of this city that do not sleep. That is one of them. Just north of the consulate is hospital row, as it's called, because you've got a great many of Toronto's great hospitals lined up one after the other. those are not places that ever sleep. So you've got cars, you've got people, and you've got the representatives of the U.S. government in the city of Toronto right there. And somebody decided that this was a good time to do some damage.

It's been a busy week in front of the U.S. consulate. On March 1st, there was an Iranian rally thanking Donald Trump for taking out the Ayatollah. on March 9th, there was a pro-Aayatola, no to unjust war protest. Supporters of the brutal Islamic regime in Iran were chanting death to America, death to Israel, outside of the consulate. Is anybody not surprised by this? I'm not surprised by this. You know, for months, for years, we had people in our streets, chanting death to America, death to Israel.

This, to me, feels like the physical manifestation of that. You know, there's a, there's misinformation out there that every Jew in the city of Toronto and indeed around the world is somehow a slavishly devoted, not just to the state of Israel, but to the policies of the government. And so every Israeli who is a Zionist must be, every Jew who is a Zionist is a problem. And America is apparently the problem in the world. So does anybody not, is anyone like me,

do you see this as the logical extension? I mean, it's crazy, but it's logical of those chants. And I'm not seeing a lot of those protests anymore. And so is it conceivable that the anti-Western movements that have sowed chaos across North America and across the Western world have simply moved into a different phase of their movement? They've gone from protest to actively participating in acts of violence. it's the same message delivered differently. This one is through the barrel of a gun. I thought we'd banned all these guns.

So good job there, government. Thank you for making us and keeping us safe. Let's listen to the mayor who gave her sense of the lay of the land. Well, let me put it this way. No one should be afraid to live in our city. These attacks on Jewish institution must stop. And as mayor, I will continue to support the Toronto police. And as you have noticed, we have put considerable resources into the police to find people responsible.

Yeah, with all due respect, Madam Mayor, I'll believe it when I see it. Because you've been saying stuff, you've been really saying stuff like that a lot. And if I had to pull Jewish people across this city, they do not feel safer. A lot of people are wondering where this uptick in violence is coming from. I just told you, you know, my one theory. But there is an argument to be made. And we're going to delve into the intelligence behind this argument a little bit later. But there's an argument to be made that this violence not only has something to do with Iran,

but might, that Iran may have a lot of. hand in this violence. Here is Lisa Rae, former cabinet minister, former interim leader of, not interim, former cabinet minister in the Harper government. And here's what she said with Greg Brady on 640 Toronto earlier today.

Look, I was listening to your, even though I'm in Nova Scotia, I was listening to your show this morning, and I heard about the shots fired at the U.S. Embassy. I mean, Toronto, let's get ourselves together here. This is, this is not acceptable. No, serious.

And the police should, they need to, they need to crack down. This is just, these are warning shots. At some point, as this war goes on, does this escalate and what does that look like? And that's my biggest fear. Is your suspicion this is Iran related? Sure. How could it not be? Yeah. Who takes a shot at the U.S. Embassy other than the people who are grieving it most? Yeah, they are warning shots. All right. They've been doing that in Jewish communities when the anti-Western terrorist, and that's what they're doing, they're terrorizing with a political end. When they enter,

a Jewish neighborhood where people just want to watch their kids ride their bikes and live in silence. When they go there and shout those things, the subtext is we, it's not subtext. They're literally telling them, we know where you live. All right. And look how comfortable we're getting in your space. We know where you live. And so just let that, marinate on that. And when they shoot up a Jewish school, which they've done in the past, or synagogues,

of which they shot up three in the last few days. At night when no one is there, implicit in that is we can come back. We can come back when you're all in, when you're in service, when you're there praying. We can just, you know, we know where you are. We got the bullets. We got the guns. We've shown you we have the resolve. And now it's just a scheduling issue.

So you're, you've been put on, on notice. So these are absolutely warning shots. And I called it years ago that things would escalate. And if you don't draw a line in the sand across which there are consequences, then those people will be emboldened and will keep crossing the line. And we have seen the line get crossed. And now we're getting dangerously close to the line that's going to involve loss of life. They've crossed that line in Australia.

We saw that on Bondi Beach. that is the future that awaits us. And so in our next segment, we're going to be talking about the potential of sleeper cells and how this may have something to do with that. But right after the break, we are speaking with the Solicitor General of Ontario, the Honorable Michael Kursner,

about what can be done about these incidents. Don't go anywhere. This is the Ben Mulroney Show. Welcome back to the Ben Mulroney show. And very glad to have on as we discussed this uptick in violence in the city, which I think I can go with my gut is politically motivated and anti-Semitic undertones for those shots that we heard ringing out that pierced three synagogues in this city just a few days ago.

We now have the Solicitor General of Ontario, the Honorable Michael Kursner, joining us. Mr. Solicitor General, thank you so much for joining us. It's great to be with you, Ben. So as an Ontario, when you see the violence that we've experienced in just such a short period of time, let's take the politics out of it for a moment. What's going on on the streets of Toronto? What is going on in Ontario? I thought every gun was banned.

What the heck's going on? Well, firstly, Ben, you know, I said on Sunday at the news conference in front of Cherishimae, a synagogue that my late grandparents helped build. in the 30s and 40s, that a threshold of decency has been crossed. And this threshold of decency is something that's very, very important. It's important because what I've said, and I've said this many times, anti-Semitism isn't just a Jewish problem. It's a Canadian problem, and we have to take it seriously,

and we have to have concrete measures to address it and to work collaboratively with all levels of government. because we can't let this fester. Well, and what do you make then of at almost 5 a.m., somebody deciding that they are going to try to shoot up, probably the most hardened target in the city of Toronto, the U.S. consulate. I don't think any gun can do damage to that building, but it's what it represents.

This is a whole other kettle of fish. This is, you know, these are the Americans, our friends, our allies, for whatever people think of Donald Trump. that has been the fact in the past and it will continue to be so. But we, for the sake of that relationship, it feels to me, we have to go over and above here. We have to make sure that all forces of intelligence and policing are brought to bear on this problem. Well, it's absolutely disgusting that a shooting would take place at the U.S. consulate. You know, Ben, right after I was at the Shersemaeim News Conference on Sunday,

I went down to speak in front of 25,000 people that were right in front of the U.S. consulate on Sunday, you know, calling and pleading for democracy in Iran, and I said, let freedom reign. So when we see a shooting to take place at the U.S. consulate, it's completely unacceptable. I did speak with Chief Demp. earlier today, and Toronto Police is investigating the matter. This is my police service. I'm an MPP in Toronto. I'm very grateful for the work they do every day to keep us safe. And then I also want to mention just an hour ago, I spoke to President Trump's special envoy to combat anti-Semitism,

Rabbi, Ambassador Yehuda Kapluane. And we talked about the threat that left unchecked will continue to disrupt our world order. So I am troubled with what happened at the U.S. consulate. I know Toronto Police will do, everything that they can to get to the bottom of it. But it goes back to the world we're living in. We can't let this threshold be crossed.

But Mr. Kersner, do we not think that for the sake of getting this right, it may require bringing in not just the Toronto police who are stretched thin as is, but to bring in the RCMP, to bring in CIS, to bring in the OPP. I mean, look, we saw how many different police organizations rescued 23 fish. is off an ice flow a couple of days ago. Surely this rises to that level. 100%. And that's exactly why on this past Sunday, I met with Minister Anandongri, the Minister of Public Safety for all of Canada. And absolutely, the OPP, I'm the Minister responsible for the OPP, is cooperating, is availing themselves all the time to work

with other police services and jurisdiction in Toronto. We have all, the RCMP that are working on the instructions of Minister Anandun Sanghry. And, you know, provincially, Ben, we are going to leave no stone unturned. We're going to do what it takes to find these people who thought it was okay to shoot up the synagogues, to shoot up the U.S. consulate, and put them behind bars where they belong. And we're going to throw the strongest element of the law at them. Well, we have to take the world. We've got to look at it today.

there's no sense in looking back and saying, we could have done this, we could have done that, although I've been strongly advocating for being more heavy-handed with the anti-Western, I don't even think they're protests or agitators. I do believe that they are deliberately trying to sow chaos. I think some of them were naive to think that they were part of a social justice movement. And I think what we're waking up to here is this is far more nefarious than that. and the goals are not to liberate a people, but to take down a way of life. And I believe that with all my heart.

And we have laws on the books, Mr. Kersner. We've got laws that say that you can't have your face covered in public. It's their black on white. You know, when the protesters took over Mount Sinai Hospital made it impossible to get into Sinai Hospital. We had a law in the books that says you're not allowed doing that, and yet nothing happened. How can we get our police to use the powers that they have to let these people know that the behavior that we've tolerated for so long will no longer be tolerated? Well, firstly, Ben, we introduced in the fall sitting, which will be re-debating just in a couple of weeks, Bill 75. And one of the things in my fall justice piece of legislation goes for something you just spoke about.

Why should somebody have the right to block access to a hospital? So I'm finally going to address this so that we have what we call barrier-free access to places of key infrastructure, to synagogues and to houses of worship, because time has come that people should not have a right indiscriminately to block access. for everybody that just wants to go about their everyday life. But we have been advocating for the federal government to address what is the definition of a hate crime. They introduced Bill C9. C9 is a committee, and they've got to move forward with it, because that would help allow the police to understand that when they make an arrest,

on the enforcement side, on the prosecution side, that somebody would have to pay the price for committing, a hate crime, and I support moving that forward. There's other measures that the federal government has done, but provincially, we're going to do more. We're going to do it faster. I want to speak to you for just a second in your listeners about the whole concept of security guards and the roles that they play. You know, it's been over 20 years before somebody has kind of dusted off the file. We've done it now. We're looking to rescoping what is the role of a private security guard to keep people safe. We have to revisit not who is going to be a police officer, because that is very important.

Police officers are incredible people. But what is the training, the standardized training for a security guard? So we're going to work with the police associations very closely with the Ontario Association that chiefs of police. And we're going to look at that. And we're going to continue to provide resources. that will be available. And the Premier will speak about this in the weeks ahead so that all houses of worship,

and especially in the Jewish community, Ben, that you know I'm a proud member of, can feel safe when we go to pray. But then, you know, I've heard stories from the deputy mayor of Toronto, Mike Cole, James Pasternak, who's a city councilor as well, said that they've both repeatedly written to Ottawa, saying we don't have what we need to take care of this rising tide. of anti-Semitism. And they've both said that they've either heard what they've heard back has

been unsatisfactory or it's been silence. And so again, there's a lot of politicians out there, and my listeners will know who I'm talking about, who love the words. They love, oh, this, anti-Semitism has no place in Canada. This is not who we are. But unless they back it up with action that's got teeth, it's not only going to stay where it is, but it's going to take deeper and deeper roots and with every passing day, it's harder and harder to rip those things out. Yeah, look, I was there. I was there when Mike Cole spoke. I don't agree with him that the province is silent. We're not. The government led by Premier Ford is very active. You know, we can point to so many things. The investments that we've made to allow a hate crime unit to expand

in Toronto, we look at the monies that we provide to, your first question, about getting more guns off the street because that's a problem. But it really goes to the tone. Everybody in society, Ben, and especially here in our province, has a role to play too. I encourage people that if they've seen anything with regards to what happened at the three synagogues, if they saw anything with regards to the U.S. consulate, call crime stoppers. Call your police. In fact, the police division is next to the U.S. consulate.

we as a society have a role also to stand up for one another. I'm not blaming any level of government. I'm going to lead. Premier Ford's going to lead. We're going to do what we need to do. This Thursday will be meeting with the ambassador from Israel to Canada and the consul general, who I know, I know both of them very well been. We're going to continue to be constructive, and we will take it from me,

make sure that if anybody thinks this is okay, it's not. You will be caught. You will be placed behind bars. And then, I've got room for people. Yeah. I like to hear that, sir. I've been speaking with the Solicitor General of Ontario, the Honorable Michael Kersner,

who, if I'm not mistaken, has to leave this call to go take a meeting with his colleague, my sister, Caroline Mulroney, depending on your perspective, that's either a really good or really bad day. Thank you very much for your time. Thanks for everything that you do. And I look forward to speaking to you again soon.

Yeah, thanks for everything you do. too, Ben. Take care. All right, when we come back, a little cleansing of the palate, if you will. We're going to be speaking with a magician and mentalist. I love these guys and I hate them at the same time. What he can do is absolutely brilliant. So we're going to have some fun here on the Ben Mulroney show. Don't go anywhere.

We'll be right back. You know, with everything going on in the world, it's easy to get your blood boiling. And every now and then, you got to just downshift. You got to downshift and appreciate the magic and wonder in the world. and there's a lot to be impressed by, and there's a lot of head-shakingly cool things out there. There are very few things out there that blow my mind,

like mentalists and close-up magic. Because I get really close, but I've got a grip, one of my best friends in the world, his name is Learam Siegel. And whenever you'd have a party, he'd bring a mentalist in. And I would get within inches of whatever was happening

in that guy's hands and I still for the life of me could not figure it out. So I'm left with only one conclusion. Magic is real. Now I know it's not, but I kind of also do. And it blows my mind and it irritates me, but it's also, it's that wonderment, right, that I think a lot of us are craving these days. And a few weeks ago, I saw on social media a magician and mentalist named Shlomo Levenger. And they call him the athletes magician because he does so much stuff with athletes. And before we bring him on,

I want to play some audio of Shlomo guessing Vladimir Guerrero's phone pin. He's volunteering. How's it going? Good to see you. You're going to count the 10 out loud. I'm going to try to pick up on which numbers

are in the password. Go, out loud, one to 10. One, two, three. four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. 305, zero five, zero four, three. God bless. Yeah, we got it. All right, we got it.

We're in. We're in. Please welcome to the show. Shlomo Levenger. Slow Mo, welcome. Hey, thank you so much for having me. This is awesome. Look, there's a lot of people.

there's a lot of great magicians and mentalists out there and I've seen a lot of them on stages in Vegas or at parties and stuff. But to find your niche and to find that thing that differentiates you from all the other great, incredible, talented people out there can be difficult. And you've found your thing.

You're the athlete's magician. How do you do that? How do you become that? That's a good question, honestly. It's funny. Like I grew up a huge sports fan, but I didn't really choose that. It kind of chose me.

The same way you kind of found me through social media. About six years ago, I was, I've been posting stuff for a long time. And I actually had a, I don't know if you've ever heard of him. He was kind of a small player, but there's a baseball player by the name of Mike Trout. I don't know if he's ever. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he actually, one of the greatest of all time.

He actually saw my stuff online as well. and he reached out to me, he DM me and said, hey, like, I love magic. Like, this is crazy. Like, I don't, you know, I want to see this in person. And he kind of had me come out to California. And then after a game, we hung out and showed him and a bunch of his friends of magic. And kind of the rest of the history, we filmed it, put it on YouTube. And then a lot of other athletes, I guess, saw it and started reaching out.

Look, I don't think I'm breaking any news or making anybody feel bad or giving a hot take or peeling the onion. but, you know, it's being a mentalist is what it appears as magic, but what skills do you as a mentalist develop to be able to do, I'm not asking you to give away your tricks, but what do you have to be really good at in order to do what you do? I think the main thing is being a people's person is just being able to be comfortable around people and sometimes pick up on things that other people

wouldn't necessarily pick up on. I do kind of I'm of the opinion that mentalism and magic are a lot more similar than people maybe tend to think but yeah I mean it's a little bit of a different angle in terms of like slight of hand being

you know a card trick being slight of hand or you know a magic trick having some sort of you know trapdoor or something like that where this is like gimmick free hands free it just looks like you're looking into someone's soul which could be a little bit scary but it is more similar to a magic trick than you might think in terms of sometimes the methods.

But the hard part about it is that you really are, there is a psychological aspect. Any good mentalist really has worked on being able to, I guess, see patterns and things and see things that, I guess, maybe someone who doesn't do this, you know, maybe he won't see. Well, let me, I want to play another piece from one of your videos. And this, so just to give context to my listeners, this is Jeff Passon. He's a sports journalist.

You had him unlock his phone, but hold it screen down and scroll through his contacts and then touch the screen where he couldn't see it. And I think that's all I need to. It's first his reaction and then another reporter he did it to him. All right. This is his reaction and then another reporter he did it to. I said to him at the beginning, I do not believe in this. And then he went out and did it.

And I don't know how. And I'm okay with that. That's what I'm getting. You're already on the count of three. You're going to say the name out loud. I'm going to turn this around. If I got it, you're ready?

One, two, three, what's the name? Laura D. Laura D. I don't know. I don't know. How do you feel about this? Do you? Am I bugged?

Dude, he did the same thing to me. It just happened to both of us. Okay, Shlomo. I haven't even watched that video, and it hurts my brain, because I was watching the pin videos, like guessing someone's password, like passcode, right?

And in my head, I was like, oh, he's paying attention, he's looking at the screen to see if there are any smudges on any particular numbers. And obviously I know it's so much more than that. There were 888 people in his phone. Yeah.

That is a, there's an infinite number of possibilities. There's, it's unguessable. I don't even know if a quantum computer could guess. Like seriously, it could be anything. That person might have had, the person he might have stopped on could have just been initials or it could have been a jumble of, of, of, of, of symbols. Correct, which actually happens sometimes. That does happen sometimes. We're like, it will be a different language or it will be initials or it'll be like a first name last initial or it'll be a nickname of sort. And that's, that's kind of where this gets fun because then I'll still have that challenge

trying to get it. So, like, I'm trying to understand, like, do you ever get brought in to sort of intelligence briefings? Like, do you ever, like, no, but you clearly have a skill that we want to attribute to magic. But seriously, like, this is a skill that if it can be taught, I don't, I don't see how it wouldn't be a skill that the CIA would want everyone to have on their staff. every spy to read people so well that they can guess a name, divine a name seemingly out of nothing? Well, first of all, if it was true, no one would talk about it. So that's number one.

And number two is that I will say to that point. And the same thing, people ask me like, oh, how come you just don't know the lottery numbers and stuff like that? And the answer to that is very simple. I'll start on the lottery point. Like the lottery, you know, the numbers are picked by a machine. So my job is to read people. So it's a machine.

It's random. There's nothing to read. So that's kind of a different thing. And then as well with intelligence sort of thing, a lot of this stuff is very directed in a sense of like, in a sense of like I'm kind of in control of what information I'm trying to get. And the person that's that I'm trying to get that information from, there has to be a certain guard, meaning their guard can be up. but only to an extent of like where they have to, there are certain skills and techniques that I'm using. So they have to be,

they have to be willing to kind of follow my, my rules and the things I want them to do. So if I want them to count a 10 out loud, or if I want them to say the alphabet, those are things that you would need them to do. And sometimes in, you know, real life, you know, intelligent situations, you don't necessarily have that opportunity. Yeah, there's an element of suggestion.

Correct, correct. Is there anything, is there anything similar with this and hypnotism? Yeah, I think there are similarities in a sense of like the person who's doing it, is performing it, is in control of like the scenario and kind of, you know, taking lead of how they're going to get that information or in hypnosis, like how, you know, how you're going to put that person in that state. So, yeah, that's the kind of the similarity there.

And there's a lot of crossover. I know plenty of mentalists who are hypnotists as well. All right. Well, we're going to take a quick break, Shlomo. You're sticking around because when we come back, Shlomo is going to mess with Ben Mulrooney. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back. And I want to thank my guest to Shlomo Levenger for sticking around.

He's a magician and mentalist. He's performed internationally. He's been called the Athletes a magician. And one of the reasons these clips are so good, besides the celebrity angle of the athletes, Shlomo, is the reactions, right? People's reactions. You never know what you're going to get. Talk to me about some of the best.

reactions you've ever gotten. Like, who's freaked out the most? Oh, man. Listen, one of the reactions that stands out of my head first door is Shohei Otani. That was, I don't know if you saw that clip, but that reaction, I don't think he ever shows that kind of emotion. So it was just such a cool moment. Well, and for those who don't know who Shohei Otani is, he's the greatest living

baseball player. And after his performance last year, they're in the playoffs, you could make an argument that he is the greatest athlete who has ever lived. and a lot of Toronto Blue Jays fans not so happy with that fact, but that doesn't. And he's known as being reserved, you know, as a Japanese player.

He's known as being reserved. And so what was his reaction? He kind of just like was so shocked. It's hard to explain his reaction. He kind of just like let out like he just started laughing really loudly. Like it was just such a fun moment. Other moments that kind of stand out or, you know, I've had people run out of the room.

Yeah, I've done that. I've had people almost have panic attacks. Like, it gets crazy out there. It's got, so listen, Shlomo, you're a good Jewish boy. I know a lot of Jewish moms. And most Jewish moms do not hope that their son grows up to be a mentalist. And so what happened when you told your mom, mom, I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a lawyer.

I'm going to do this. They actually just banished me from the family. No. They were, honestly, honestly, I started this when I was 14, so I was in high, I had just started high school. You did it for, you did to get to girls, right? Like, every girl loves slight a hand. Yeah, well, yeah, let's say.

You know, magic, to be honest, in the beginning, magic, it was like, it was kind of the long, I was playing the long game because, you know, it definitely sometimes could have that, you know, kind of that, like stigma of being, you know, a little bit of something different. But I think it just depends on who's doing it in their personality. Like, if you can make it cool, you'll make it cool. It's not, not, you know. But, yeah, I started in high school, and, like, I don't know, it was just a hobby that, like,

I'm very, like, self-competitive. Like, I like to compete with myself. Anything I get into, I get, I just get, I go all in. Like, I go hard. So, yeah, I kind of just took it on as a challenge. And then I just really got into it and I love it. And, you know, once I, once I finished high school, I was already, by my senior year, I'm already doing small, like, small parties, small gigs.

And I guess before I had any responsibility to make money, like there was a, you know, there was clearly like some sort of path there. So I don't think the blow was as strong as it would have been if I would have just, you know, jumped them and said, hey, this is what I'm doing. But I think they kind of saw it coming. Yeah. And the sting often comes out of whatever expectations parents have when they see that their child is happy.

They see that their child is at what they've chosen to do. They're really good at. And when they find out it pays the bills. When those three things, they can check those three boxes, the parents tend to, the white knuckling ends to a certain extent. All right. On that note, my friend, I think now, and I don't know how often you do these things over the radio, but let's see if you can do something that's going to make me want to run out of the room. Absolutely.

I love it. And this is a good challenge because last segment we were talking about how I told someone to contact from their phone and they had about 800,000. 88 contact, which is a lot. But let's up the stakes here a little bit. Let's up the stakes. Let's get this. Let's do something that I don't think has ever been done before. And I kind of want to do something a little bit crazy.

So here's what we're going to do in your mind right now. I want you to think of anything in the entire world. This could be a person, a place, a thing, anything you want. Okay. Anything you want. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. I've got it. I've got it. You got something. All right. So just to repeat, you want me to pick anything. It could be an object. It could be a person. Could be a place. Anything. Okay. I've picked a thing. I've done it. I've done it.

Okay. Beautiful. Now, I want people to understand how actually impossible this is. So here's what I'm going to have you do. Do you have your phone with you by chance? Yes, I do. Perfect. I want you to pull out your phone. Okay. I want you to Google something for me. You're going to Google something for me. You're going to Google something for me. I'll tell you exactly what your Google.

you're going to look this up you're going to go how many articles now we're going to use a little bit of a database here how many articles are there on wikipedia how many articles are there on wikipedia i want you to google that okay the answer should be there yes and i've got the okay uh the ai so okay so you want me say what it is are you like are you on are you on um are you on um are you on um so i i did know so i used uh i used the uh apple um um the browser and I just typed that in, but it came up on Google on the AI overview.

Sure, so just scroll down. I think there's like a live counter that will give you the exact number so people actually understand this. So I think there's a live counter. I think it's called Wiki count or something like that. Wiki count?

It should be like one of the first, yeah, like one of the first couple links. It should even say there like an exact number of how many articles. Stand by. Okay. When you see that, just click it and let it take you there

and it will give you an exact number. When you have that, just read it out. Okay, let me see. Wiki count. Wikipedia. Wikicount.net or something along those lines. It's Wikipedia's an official live counter. Okay.

Wikipa... I'm not seeing it here. Wikipedia. Hold on. Let's see. You know what? I'm just going to go to Chrome instead, okay? So I can do it there.

Yeah, go to Chrome. And you know what? Just type this in wikikcount.net. So wiki-t-o-un-t-net. Dot net. Okay. Wikicount. Dot net.

It should give you the answer. Okay. So here we go. Wiki-count. dot net. Okay, so it says 5,07, $7,706,247. 247. And then does it say there on the bottom like how many words per article, just say there with an average of how many words? 1,555 words per article, average.

Okay. And so see there, do you see where it says visit Wikipedia? Yes. So click that, let it take you there. Now, here's what you're going to do. We're not, we're over the phone right now. Yeah. We're not seeing each other in person.

I can't see your phone. I can't see people around you. Even if I had a camera and scoot, like I can't know what you're thinking in your brain. Here's what you're going to do. The reason I'm having you do this is because I need to visualize it in order for your brain to process it a certain way. And in a minute, I'm going to have you say the alphabet,

something like that. And I'm going to try to figure out exactly what it is. Do you see your own Wikipedia? You see the search bar top right there. Do you see that? Yeah, I've got the, yeah, search, yeah, top right. Okay. I want you to pull up the article for whatever you're thinking.

Kind of hold it towards you. You just things I could somehow. see. And I want you to show it to just to show it to one other person, or you don't have to show it to anybody. It doesn't matter. Okay. But as long as you have the article there up in front of you or whatever you're thinking of, that's the point. Okay. Yeah. Okay, we got it. Yeah. And my producer's recording it and making a video. Okay. Perfect. I want you to stare at the article and really just stare at it. Try to just don't think, don't really like focus on really anything, just kind of just try to take it in. And then I want you just to out loud right now, do the alphabet,

that A through Z as loud as you can. A, B, C, D, C, D, C, D, D, F, G, G, H, I J, K, L M, N-O-P, Q-R-S, T-U-V, W, X, Y, and Z. Beautiful. Okay, there's a couple letters that are standing out to me. Now, here's the thing, by the way, also, just for the record, there are people, there are millions and billions of people in this world, and there are people looking things up on Wikipedia all the time. So even if somehow I could know what people are looking up, like, there's people searching things up every second of a day. So to know this thing that you're exactly thinking of would be impossible. But I think there's a couple letters that stood out to me. Tell me if I'm right here,

and I think it's funny because when I had you think, when I told you to think of whatever this is, I have a feeling like when I heard the letters just now that there were maybe, and now I can't see you. So this does make it harder. there were maybe, and I tell me if I'm wrong here, I think you actually had something else first, besides for the thing that you're thinking of. And I kind of think you were going back and forth in your head and you were thinking to yourself, like, which one would be better? And then you kind of settled on this.

And I think it's actually based on something that you maybe saw recently. Like, that's the feeling that I'm getting here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. And you kind of settled, you settled on this because you felt like in your mind that it was really random. so it's not like I could have known that's based on something, but it's not like personal, personal. This is something random.

You know what? It's funny. Is this, I said person, place or thing, this is an object. Am I correct? Yeah, yeah, it's an object. Yeah, it's an object. And it maybe would even fit in your hand. Like, it fits in the size of your hand.

Like it would fit in your hand. You can hold it. Yeah. And I believe, I believe, did you see this today? something you saw today earlier today? Yeah, I saw something of, I saw something very similar to this today. It's very similar to this. So not that exact version. And it's funny, the thing you actually saw earlier was debating going with that, but you kind of just went with this. You're going, you went, oh, is this, this is a food? Is this, is this Golden Graham? Oh my God, he's a witch.

Burn him. He's a witch. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus. Shlomo Levenger. I wish we could continue that you freaking nailed it, dude. Oh my God, you are an apex predator. Thank you so much. Congratulations on all your success. We will be watching you on social media. If people want to find you, how can they find you?

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