The Benny Show - ABC News AMBUSH Trump! Trump REVENGE Begins, Faces Kamala LIVE At Ground Zero | Polls Show Trump Won, with Guests Rep. Wesley Hunt and Rich Baris

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

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Very interesting exchange there. We'll play that for you in a second. Rich Barris and Congressman Wesley Hunt join the program. My name is Benny Johnson, and this is The Benny Show. Make sure, ladies and gentlemen, that in these troubled times, and you can see the full effect of the machine behind Kamala Harris last night. The machine wanted Biden to drop out, and they wanted Kamala to be boosted. And so you saw what they were capable of doing over the last two debates. They were even able to push Joe Biden to do a debate earlier than anyone's ever done a presidential debate. Why would they do that?

You know, if this was Joe Biden last night, then there'd be no chance of swapping the candidate. Are they going to swap Kamala for Hillary if she sinks in the polls? And we have some very interesting polling to prove that. Well, maybe maybe it's not as good or bad as anybody thinks. Last night, actually, maybe Donald Trump did, in fact, win. It's very interesting when you look at the independents, what they think about President Trump's interactions last night. But nonetheless, we are in trying times. Make sure that you are invested properly with your savings. Make sure that you are going with my friends at Allegiance Gold, protecting your future.

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I was a member of – I was a credentialed member of the Washington, D.C. press corps for a very long time. I've done hits from inside of ABC News. I've asked questions at the White House. I've been a congressional reporter. I still have my little badge with my little face on it. Let me tell you something. I disown it all. I disavow it.

All of it. It's an entirely fraudulent system that has nothing to do with ethics. They go on and on about journalistic ethics. Really? Did you see any journalistic ethics on display last night? I have an article right here 25 different times from The Federalist that Kamala Harris told lies last night. 25 different times. Did you ever hear a fact check for Kamala Harris? Did you hear one fact check? Kamala Harris was able to spew and spit lie after lie after lie into President Trump's face like that dinosaur

in Jurassic Park. She was able to do that. Nothing, nothing. Not a single question about the fact that Donald Trump just ate a bullet. You'd think, you'd think that a presidential candidate getting shot by far left wing extremists and members of his political movement dying, that that would be something that is talked about. Instead, they talked about Charlottesville, which had nothing to do with Donald Trump at all. And then they lied about Charlottesville. What a despicable, what a despicable act that ABC News committed on TV last night.

Everything from the camera angles. From the camera, from the podiums, it was all set up. To. Be detrimental to President Trump. The camera angle for Donald Trump was up high and looking down on him as though he was a child being lectured. The camera angle for Kamala was looking upward, heroic. These little things, these small details are what happens when Republicans sacrifice our candidates and our political movement, really our future in this country, to propagandists who are not journalists, but are there to ask questions like David Muir asks

all last night. President Trump, you're a piece of human garbage. This is how a typical question would go. President Trump, you're a piece of human garbage. ALX, make sure that there is a, make sure there's a follow, make sure there's a follow-up on this. I want to, I want to follow up on this. I mean, I want a David Muir example of this, please. President Trump, you're a piece of garbage. Why? Why? Why are you that? Go. You have 60 seconds. Donald Trump says, I'm not. You're taking me out of context or this is totally rigged. Okay. Thank you. President Trump, time. Your mic's off. Kamala, why is President Trump a piece of garbage? This is how every single interaction went. This is the camera angles.

You can see it. You can see it plainly right here. Everything from the camera angles to the questions, the fat chats, to the lighting, all of it. All of it rigged against President Trump. They're going to say, oh, you're complaining about the refs. That just means that your team sucks. I will be the first to admit, and I had said last night, that I think that the talking about his rallies and fluster him about talking about January 6th and get him off balance, right? And frustrated. I would argue also that Donald Trump's frustrated tone during the debate is shared by the vast

preponderance of Americans who hate the way things are going. Nobody thinks things are going good in this country. And we are all equally frustrated, actually. There are grounds for people to be quite upset and to grumble and to have a chip on their shoulder. Donald Trump had a chip on his shoulder last night. Is that a good look? Well, we'll go to the polls in a second and show you what people thought. But I want to take a step back and describe in great detail this political assassination. Donald Trump was fact-checked seven times last night. Seven times. And was fact-checked on things that were true or were opinions. I have this perfect example for you. Here we go.

This is the number one. This is something that was set for Donald Trump, the inescapable trap that was created for President Trump last night. Here we go. I lost by a whisker, said President Trump in 2020. Donald Trump's done a lot, unlike Kamala Harris, Donald Trump's done a ton of interviews. He's talked about 2020 a lot, okay? And he's framed it, right, in many different circumstances, sort of based on the crowd and who he's talking to. But the reality is Donald Trump isn't living in the White House right now. So President Trump has at times been like, yeah, it's a very close race. I think that that's kind of inarguable, right?

It's a very close race. I lost by a whisker. Now, David Muir brings those comments up to President Trump. And then something truly despicable happens. President Trump defends himself and states what he believes. And then watch what happens next. You lost the 2020 election. You repeatedly falsely claimed that you won, many times saying you won in a landslide. In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said, quote, you lost by a whisker that you, quote,

didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short. I said that. Are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020? No, I don't acknowledge that at all. But you did say that. I said that sarcastically. You know that. We said, oh, we lost by a whisker. That was said sarcastically. Look, there's so much proof.

All you have to do is look at it. And they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval. I got almost 75 million votes, the most votes any sitting president has ever gotten. I was told if I got 63, which was what I got in 2016, you can't be beaten. The election, people should never be thinking about an election as fraudulent. We need two things. We need walls. We need and we have to have it. We have to have borders and we have to have good elections. Our elections are bad. And a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they're trying to get them to vote.

They can't even speak English. They don't even know what country they're in practically. And these people are trying to get them to vote. And that's why they're allowing them to come into our country. I did watch all of these pieces of video. I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by a whisker. We didn't quite make it. And we should just point out here as clarification,

and you know this, you and your allies allies 60 cases in front of many judges many of them looked at it and said they said we didn't have standing that's the other thing what you just saw there is total bullshit from David Muir. It's one thing to do a fact check. Well, the representatives for this agency says that, the FBI says this,

the city councilman says that, and we'll get through that. We'll get to that in a second. It's a totally different thing to say oh i didn't detect your sarcasm mr president i'm going to interpret what i think you meant in this statement mr president what why do we put up with this this is david muir injecting his opinion nothing that can even be remotely defended like well one side says this and one side says that and well we're gonna let him play it out and this authority says that and this authority says that

they did a lot of that with trump we'll show you that this clip is despicable this shows you how rigged the game is yeah sure okay you can you're complaining about the ref that means your team just needs to be better uh okay maybe there's some gray zone in all that like every every person watching right now is is aware that there are rigged refs refs do go to prison when they get caught cheating or favoring a certain team there are examples of that it can be a cope but there can also be legitimate concerns with refs favoring one team over the other. This is the equivalent of getting four touchdowns called back. Because the ref is holding, right, for lack of a better metaphor.

This is a journalistic assassination of President Trump. That clip that I just played you should lose anyone their job, period. David Muir is a hard news reporter. And he is sitting there in front of Trump. Saying, I didn't detect your tharkathum. I'm me, I, me, me, mine, my, me, David Muir. Because this debate is really about me, isn't it? You're actually debating me.

Isn't that quite fascinating? David Muir never, never fact checks Kamala. Okay, got it. Kind of par for the course. Doesn't get Kamala any questions that are even remotely critical of her. And she's been the one in power for the last four years. So you would assume that 90% of the questions would be about her.

They talk about ancient history. They're talking about ancient history, stuff that happens with Trump in the 70s and 80s. Like Kamala has been vice president now. Nothing? Nothing. Huh? Oh, okay. Like, Kamala's been vice president now. Nothing? Nothing. Huh?

Oh, okay. So then, this weasel injects his own opinion and looks at Donald Trump and says, I don't like that. I didn't think that was the, that was what you meant how dare you how dare they

despicable behavior it is grotesque in the extreme that these moderators keep their jobs grotesque it's not bias it's so worse. It's not fact checking on the fly. It's not even having an incorrect fact check. It's David Muir saying, I don't like you. I'm going to mind read and I'm going to tell you what you meant in this certain in this circumstance. Why do we put up with it? This is why I say I will never trust another Republican that goes on ABC News. Republicans should just straight up declare that this is a outside agency, operational outside PR agency for the DNC and blacklist it. And if you ever want leadership in Congress, if you ever want funds from the NRCC or NRSC, you're just not going to go on ABC News based on their behavior yesterday.

Truly and utterly despicable. This was a planned interference in the debate. They orchestrated this. This was something that was done. I don't have any proof that Kamala Harris was given the question in advance, but given the way that she answered these questions and the way that the questions were set up, you have to assume Kamala Harris's best friend runs ABC news. Why was this debate even allowed to happen?

Why do Republicans put themselves in this position? Why can't they pick the moderators? Republicans, why do we say we have no control? We have no control. Here's an excellent clip that Elon Musk brought up yesterday. I'll play this clip as a play beside. We're going to work through it, okay?

This comes from a great account on X called Western Lensman. Here we go. Pelosi was responsible. She didn't do her job. The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi. But I do want Vice President Harris to respond here. Stop. Okay. Donald Trump was asked, do you bear any blame for January 6th?

Donald Trump then says, Nancy Pelosi, correctly, I gave Nancy Pelosi 20,000 National Guard troops. And then David Muir says, we're not talking about that. We're talking about you. He answered the question. Not only that, he answered the question completely and totally factually. There's not a single person that can argue that. He knows what he's doing, though. David Muir knows exactly what's happening.

Muir intervenes in order to stop President Trump from making the true point. He then undercuts the validity of Trump's statement by making a snide, snarky comment. We didn't ask about Pelosi. We asked about you. It's incredible. She didn't do her job. The question was about you as president,

not about former Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President Harris to respond here. I was at the Capitol on January 6th. I was the vice. False. Do this all day. False. She was not at the Capitol on January 6th.

It was the DNC. We know this. There's little video evidence of it. Why didn't somebody fact check her? Whilst January 6th, while the riot was going on on January 6th, Kamala Harris wasn't inside the Capitol. The end.

The federal courts have found this. The Supreme Court has found this. They're actually liberating January 6th prisoners who have been locked up based on this lie. This is a false statement. And she has never called out on it, even with video and court evidence. President-elect, I was also an acting senator. I was there. And on that day,

the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's capital, to desecrate our nation's capital. On that day, 140 law enforcement officers. Okay, Donald Trump said march peacefully. March peacefully and patriotically. He said that multiple times. That is another lie.

And some died. And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason. But this is not an isolation. No police officers died on January 6th. The only person that died were Trump supporters. Some of them were executed in cold blood without warning. Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing anti-Semitic hate. And what did the president then at the time say?

There were fine people on each. Donald Trump never said that. This is the most disproven lie, even by people who I would argue on any given days, like far more left wing than Kamala Harris. Look at these people. These Snopes. Here you go. I can't I can't help myself. Here's Snopes.

This is false that Donald Trump claimed that neo-Nazis were very these people. These are Snopes. Here you go. I can't help myself. Here's Snopes. This is false that Donald Trump claimed that neo-Nazis were verified people. This is false. Not what they can normally do, which is like unproven or we're still researching it or we're going to get back to you on this one. Or maybe that's what he meant to say. Maybe we're David Muir and we can just read his mind. No, it's false. He didn't say that. Kamala Harris has allowed impunity to just vomit that lie onto the stage.

Then she goes on to recite the bloodbath hoax something that is again based on corporate you don't need it but based on corporate media of which david muir is a part of is a demonstrable lie about president trump they did exactly what their bosses wanted them to do. That's what these people did. They did exactly what their bosses wanted them to do. They got president Trump into a corner. They made him look bad based on the camera angles and based on framing and lighting. They got the moderators to not allow him any space, not allow Donald Trump any humanity. They trapped him like you would trap a bear. And you get from all sides. The bear is big and it is strong.

And you have got to come at it from all sides. And they put Donald Trump in a box and Kamala didn't have to do anything. Kamala, much like with Joe Biden, just had to like breathe and fog a mirror. This is the perfect example of that. Donald Trump, I was shocked. You know, there are people, there are people that I vociferously disagree with on the internet. And sometimes I publicly fight with them

because they're on the other side. But when something bad happens to them, when some tragedy befalls them, I'm one of the first guys in the DMs saying, I'm sorry about that. I'll pray for you. There are people that come for me, people that are, like, cruel to us and what we do here. And if something bad happens to them, like, you got to have a real empty soul and a real blackened soul to, like, not say, hey, you know, brother, I hope you're doing okay, right? I want nothing but like peace for your family. I want nothing but like on the show,

we have never wished ill or harm on anyone. We want all of our fellow Americans to live in peace. We want all people around the world to not be blown to bits. We want the wars to end, as we have said many times here on this program, in Ukraine, in Russia, in Israel. We do not want a war in Taiwan or China. We don't want these things. These are some of the worst things to happen in wars. It's often cast as like angels and demons but actually just pretty much generally it's both sides are demons fighting against each other there's devils on both sides and we don't want we don't want the devil on this program okay we're against these things when something bad befalls someone even people i disagree with it is like just basic humanity to just say man i hope you're doing okay right let me know if there's anything i can do to help out

president trump ate a bullet on live tv got a part of his ear blown off he had blood streaming down his face they intended for that bullet to course, blow his brains out in a live TV execution. That was the intention. It slaughtered a member of the MAGA movement. A noble firefighter was just there protecting his family. And then other members of the American First Movement all went to the hospital in critical condition. I believe there were three other people who were hit by bullets that day.

Not a single question about it. Nothing. Not a single question. In fact, when President Trump, to show you what kind of a rig job this is, show you how disgraceful what happened last night. When President Trump just mentioned it,

just mentioned, you know you know i was shot and it was because of rhetoric like unhinged unchecked rhetoric like this like the very fine people hoax for example when i ate a bullet donald trump brings up and watch what the moderators do this is the one that weaponized not me she weaponized i probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me they talk about democracy i'm a threat to democracy they're the threat to democracy with a fake russia russia russia investigation that went nowhere i was shot in the head. Excuse me, Mr. Trump.

It's time for us to talk about race and climate change. That is how it be, though. That's exactly what happened last time. So yeah, you know, you hate to say, you hate to like sit back and realize how broken the system is and how the world that you grew up in,

maybe it was all fake all along, but I won't trust another Republican, whoever goes on ABC News. This is something that is immovable for me. It is truly and utterly despicable. One of Donald Trump's strongest defenders, bravest allies, somebody who also knows what it's like to be shot at. The great Congressman Wesley Hunt joins the program now. What did we see last night, Congressman? What's your takeaway? You're a spokesperson for the president. Yeah, I watched the entire debate, and it was absolutely despicable, as you were talking about. I can't imagine. Basically, it wasn't a debate against Kamala Harris. This was three on one. And it was so blatantly obvious

in how they performed that you were absolutely correct. I don't know how anybody, any Republican can ever go on a network like that, because it was a complete and utter disgrace. I think President Trump handled himself the best that he could, given those circumstances. They were clearly biased toward Kamala Harris. And every time President Trump tried to bring up her track record, the idea that she's been the vice president for the past three years, this is the person that's going to fix the country. She's going to fix the economy. She's going to fix the border. And she literally sat next to basically a vegetable for the past four years and said and did nothing. It's absolutely ridiculous. And every time President Trump

tried to bring that up, they cut her off. All they talked about was race. All they talked about was how she is going to somehow miraculously change our future. And what I find very interesting too about the whole race piece of this, this is a woman that called Joe Biden a racist on a debate stage and then a few months later became his And honestly, as somebody that's been on President Trump's side for the past few years, somebody that's traveled on his behalf, somebody that's been a very proud surrogate for him, I got to say, what I saw last night is the idea that Kamala Harris become the president, given the fact that she just lied for an hour and 30 minutes, knowing their track record and then on top of that knowing trump's track record while he was the president this is about the

border this is about our economy this is about putting food on the table this is not about optics this is not about identity politics this is about the very soul of our country one person spoke that the best ability while battling two moderators and a liar that was kamala harris and there's kamala harris that just sat there for the entire time and licked your teeth that's what i saw i mean were you shocked that they didn't ask a single question about president trump surviving an assassination of course i'm not shocked about that that that's how these people operate and and again you know you you brought up blood streaming down his face. He got shot at. The idea of them saying, when he brought it up and the idea that they didn't say,

Mr. President, I'm glad they missed. I'm glad you are okay. Would you like to further expound on your point here? Again, they cut him off and they want to talk about climate change. They gave no condolences. They said nothing about how they're glad that they missed shooting a former president of this country. I mean, put that into perspective. And then I also want to say this, if you were a Democrat, oh gosh, they still will be talking about it right now. How you took a bullet for this country. We got a rally around you and I'm glad you're still here. And the fact that you stood up after getting shot at and the first words that you could tell your public was fight, fight, fight. And the fortitude that you showed by literally being shot at

and having the courage under fire, they wouldn't even let him go off on that. And I think that should have been a question that they asked him and Kamala Harris. How did her rhetoric influence that event didn't do it that's so that's such a sharp take they didn't even say like we're glad you lived like I that you know I my preface to all this is that I there's a lot of people I disagree with on the internet and when some some some tragedy befalls them I'm one of the first people in the DMs being like you know bro praying for you right like I'm a believer I hope that you're okay like they couldn't even the guy ate a bullet survives and on near on live tv execution and abc news who does live tv all day uh didn't find it in within

themselves to say glad you're okay in In fact, when Trump tried to talk about it, they were like, move on. That's a loser for their party. They're the ones that are calling us a threat to democracy. Let me tell you what a threat to democracy is, Benny. When you have a current Democrat presidential nominee that didn't get a single primary vote. Put that in perspective. No one voted for this woman. No one has ever voted for this woman. She got appointed to be the vice presidency. Now she's the nominee for the Democrat party. Joe Biden got every single vote. Democrats didn't even get to put her in this position in a Democratic way. And they're calling us a threat to democracy? That's one of the biggest farses that I've ever seen.

And they wouldn't even ask her that question. But if they were fair, a simple question would have been, look, I understand that Joe Biden got COVID. And then in 48 hours, he was ceremoniously removed from being the presidency. And then all of a sudden, every delegate that she never got sided with her. And then they go into the nomination singing Kumbaya with little Johnny East Side Boys. How'd that happen? Are we even going to have a discussion as to how that happened? And if I were a Democrat, I personally would be outraged because our guy, President Trump, won every single state with the exception of two during his primary. He is our guy that we democratically elected, and that's it. The woman he is running against is not the person that the people of their party even voted for. And they wouldn't even touch or ask that question or allow her to explain

herself. Again, they didn't ask questions that were based on being fair to President Trump. They were being as partisan as can be. And again, it was a cage match. It was a three on one cage match. And President Trump did the best he could. And I admire him for it. So I know that you served in the aftermath of September 11th. And, you know, I want to make sure that we touch on this. President Trump not only went into the spin room last night, but then is here this morning, shaking hands with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris at ground zero. Uh, the man is,

uh, truly undeterred. And it, uh, I don't understand. I don't understand how he, I don't understand how he does it. I,

I think it, I think it's almost inhuman. The, the, the man's energy levels and capacity to absorb this pressure and to seem like totally unbowed after the journalistic assassination attempt last night. You know President Trump very, very well. And also this must be a very meaningful day to you, Congressman. Just your thoughts on this.

He's a New Yorker at his heart, and he's there doing the right thing, doing the right thing for the victims that were lost. That's the President Trump that I know. And keep in mind, when 9-11 happened, I was a sophomore at West Point, and I knew that we were all going to go to war, and that day changed the course of my life. That's the day that I realized that someday I'm going to be in Baghdad. And a couple of years later, I was flying combat missions in Baghdad because of this day. This is the day that I will always remember. This is the day that led to the loss of lives of many of my West Point classmates and many soldiers that went to defend this nation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. And again, President Trump shaking hands with Kamala Harris, standing there with a smile on his face to show support of the

victims, putting aside all the partisan politics to do the right thing, that's President Trump. And while the media is going to try to attack him to make him look like, you know, you know, the big bad, the big bad wolf. What I know personally is that he cares about this country. He doesn't have to do what he's doing. The guy is a billionaire, but the guy is also, more importantly, is a father. He is a grandfather. He is the guy who wants to preserve the very work of this nation for the future of his posterity. And that's exactly why he's at ground zero right now, putting on the right face to show the world that I can still lead and I will be a strong leader for this country when I am the 47th president, regardless of how I feel about my political opponents and regardless of how my political opponents have weaponized three-letter

agencies against me to even keep me off the ballot. They've gone after my home. They've gone after my reputation. And you know what? I don't care. I'm here in my home city, in my home state to protect and defend the dignity of those people that lost their lives at 9-11. And I admire them for that as well. Well, we are seeing a ping pong balling across social media. The cops and firefighters, they are loving President Trump. Kamala Harris did not. She left the ceremony early and I don't think we'll be going to any firefighting station

house or any NYPD office. We're very quickly in closing here. Will you be going on ABC News anytime soon? I'll give you a simple answer on that. No. All right. All right. The great Congressman Wesley Hunt, I think that's an answer right there. Great Congressman Wesley Hunt. Go ahead and hop in there. Quarter of a million followers. Make sure that our movement remains strong and uplifted. And this is a man who always has a chip on his shoulder, a pep in his step, and brings the energy. God bless you, Congressman. God bless you. God bless your beautiful family too, Benny. Thanks for having me. Thank you Same to you, Congressman

Beautiful families Beautiful families all around President Trump President Trump saying He wants to send Kamala Harris A MAGA hat Last night Because Kamala Harris has stolen all of his policies and she has no policies. A remarkable moment, possibly my favorite Donald

Trump comeback. He had a number of them. The zingers were all Trump's. Here we go. And policies like they have, I don't say her because she has no policy. Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window. She's going to my philosophy now. In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat. She's gone to my philosophy. But if she ever got elected, she'd change it. President Trump and his delivery yesterday.

What are the American people saying? In a moment here, we'll be joined by Rich Barris, our favorite pollster in the entire industry, who is so sharp and was quite frustrated last night. Here's what Reuters has to say, and we'll see what it looks like in the numbers, the debate performance. Reuters polled undecided voters after the debate. 60% are now voting for Trump. 30% are voting for Kamala. 10% remain undecided voters after the debate. 60% are now voting for Trump. 30% are voting for Kamala. 10% remain undecided. Kamala's performative She-Hulk energy is repulsive to voters who are simply struggling to pay for their groceries. Amazing. No questions about Trump getting shot.

No questions about the economy. No questions about inflation. Isn't that the things that people care about? Like I can't afford gas or groceries. The hell are you talking about? We have a question now on race. We have a question on climate change. We have a question about like January 6th. Shut up. These are issues now that people are dealing with today. And by the way, like the issue of race, doesn't inflation affect all races?

Doesn't the economy affect everybody? We'll see what the numbers actually say. And we'll see what the data says with our favorite pollster, the great Rich Barris. Big Data Polls joins us live now. Rich, I got to tell you, man. Boy, you were right. And now I want to see what's next. So what you told us last time you were on the program about a week ago is that President Trump was going to be exactly in the same position ahead of Kamala that he was with Biden. And that fundamentals haven't changed. And we saw that actually widening this weekend in through Monday now this debate's happened I know you have some hot takes on the debate what do you think is going to happen in the polling numbers yeah and thanks for having me as always Benny I mean let me just say preface this what

I'm going to say with this real quick um I'm doing your show now I got mine I got a couple a bunch of others after I'm going to be the most hated guy by the end of today because I mean really I got bad news for both sides but I mean this was the most predictable outcome. I mean, you could imagine Benny, all he had to do was say, I will not debate an illegitimate nominee. She usurped the legitimate press, the sitting president and the legitimate nominee of the democratic party. And because I will not disenfranchise or partake in their disenfranchising of 15 million voters, I refuse to debate her. She is so legitimate, period, full stop. That's all he had to do. He would have been sitting, he would have been viewed as standing up for the people who the Democratic Party literally took their vote and wiped their,

you know, what's with and threw it in the trash. But instead he walked into a predictable trap. The head of ABC News literally is a personal friend of Kamala Harris. She introduced her husband to her folks. Like this is a complete incestuous relationship. I don't know why after this happens, we always hear the same whining by people. Oh, this was unfair. It's a three-on-one. No, Sherlock. I mean, what planet have you been living on for the last like 10, 15 years? They don't even hide it anymore. But that being said, for the first 20 minutes, Trump was winning that debate. Then they started a pile on when they couldn't get the abortion thing in Benny. And he dealt with that as he does as one sole Republican who knows how to deal with that issue

when he's sandbagged with it and he dealt with it well. And that's really when the pile on begins. If people go back and rewatch it, you will see that. So, you know, I would say it's a hard word to replace. You know, Laura keeps telling me, don't use this word, don't use that word, but it's true. So they got what they wanted and they'll be able to use this, you know, to exploit the response bias in the polls. That's what I expect they will try to do. And the YouGov, The Economist, is tied today. All right. So watch what they do in the next week or so. She won in any traditional sense of the word, except it appears not just a Reuters poll.

I will share our findings with you in a second here. The people in the poll that we sent you, undecideds, we asked all of them, would you mind us contacting you again if you plan to watch the debate? We would like to ask you who you think won. Now, are you leaning to somebody? Unbelievably, it's almost identical to the Reuters poll. Trump is a little bit over 60%. Kamala Harris is a little bit over 30%.

And the rest remain unsure. Why is a little bit over 60%. Kamala Harris, a little bit over 30% and the rest remain unsure. Why is that? I got to tell you, she came across like a, you know, like I'm not going to say it on your show, but nobody likes a, you know, and she came across as a, as a, as a B word, Benny, that's all there is to it. The faces, the awful, like we say a lot, we communicate a lot with our facial expressions, with our body language. And Hillary Clinton had this problem too. And all the debate polls said,

oh, Hillary won, voters think Hillary won. Except she really didn't because everyone thought that Hillary was a you know what, just like, and this was I think even worse so she turned people off and I think that's what it is and then also I think nobody likes a pile on nobody likes a gang up and nobody likes a bully you know and it looked like the media and Harris wearing on it and bullying trying to bully Trump nobody Americans like like the underdog folks they love underdog stories they don't like people

being ganged up on by big corporations and that's what it is you know you got big pharma funding big media and this is what they do with it you know i mean that's why i really wish president trump would have used his uh unique position to reform this process because it doesn't serve the voters it hasn't for a long time. What would that process look like for you? I have a thought. I want to put it to you. And then I want to like, let's break this down

because we, as people who have audiences, I think it's very important that somebody projects a different vision for how these debates should go. And here's mine. My vision is that there needs to be, since there is no such thing as an unbiased moderator. Oh, Dana Bash did a good job. Dana Bash's husband signed the Hunter Biden letter saying that it was Russian disinformation.

No, Dana Bash didn't do a good job. They were there to knife Biden, and that's it. They weren't there to make Trump look good. They didn't make Trump look good. They were there to just knife Biden. That was the hell. Okay, so stop like this fantasy candy. 100%. Okay, so here's my take.

I want your thoughts on this. You're smarter than me. I believe that we should put, we should take like our guy. There should be like somebody who is sort of widely seen as like center right. All right, there's a bear. I don't care. Tucker Carlson for all I care. We should take somebody who's seen as like center right all right there i don't care talk to carlson for all

i care we should take somebody who's seen a center left and you put them there on a panel they don't have to be best friends they probably are that's how the media works and they get questions from their own sort of like ideological uh vantage points and the maybe the questions are like you know like like do it with a live audience, maybe. Okay? That the campaigns can do 50-50 and make sure that there's like a little bit of bend in the joints

where both sides are seen as equal. And because there's no such thing as a bias reporter, like do that and let's get Tucker Carlson moderating the damn debates. Okay? And if he's across from Rachel Maddow,

that's going to be effing entertaining, rachel maddow that's gonna be effing entertaining i think i think that's a show people would actually watch they'd watch more of we'll see what the ratings are for this thing i actually think it was probably kind of boring for most people and uh you know i i don't think there's going to be some massive uh smashing of the record if i'm wrong i'm wrong but i just think a lot of people kind of wanted to tune this thing out at this point um and i think that idea is probably the most viable idea there is. I mean, that is one that you would think anyway, uh, both sides would at least not want, I mean, the right would want it, but the left would probably have little choice, but to agree to it, if the pressure was really kept up, I have another one that's a little bit different too,

because we, you know, uh too, because I think yours is probably more acceptable and more realistic. But what I would like to see happen is that you have both of these campaigns, essentially more like a Lincoln Douglas style debate, if you want to call it that, but who asks the questions, right? So if you don't go the moderator direction, who asks the questions? Well, this is why I like this idea because each campaign would have to be competent and they would have to be right about their assumptions they're making about who is the undecided voter, right? And I would just allow the voters to ask the questions. Who picks the voters? The campaigns do. Based on, look, every campaign is targeting demographics they think are persuadable. So if a campaign's wrong about that,

then that's not going to serve them. Good. Good. As it shouldn't. If the campaign is right, then that debate will go better for them, right? If they're both right, then it'll be a robust conversation. And you have somebody like a, who's that loser who used to host American Idol, right? You have somebody- Ryan Seacrest, yeah. Yeah, Ryan Seacrest. Like somebody who does that kind, that's his role, that's it. You know what I mean?

Like you don't actually get involved. You don't insert yourself. Megyn Kelly's right. Last night was, because you have to control what happened last night from happening, right? So after it wasn't going well, after about 15, 20 minutes or so, I mean, it really turned into,

you know what, Mr. Trump, we want to get to this question. You know, a lot of people think you're a piece of, you know, what do you think? What do you think? I mean, how would you respond to you being a piece of, you know, and then turning to Kamala and going, Miss Harris, don't you have Vice President Harris? Don't you think Trump's a piece of, you know, like that's how it was going last night. Megyn Kelly's 100%. So you have to have, like, a Ryan Seacrest-like role where all he does is introduce what's going on and then shuts the hell up.

And everybody knows that voter one is going to get the first question, voter two is going to get the second question, voter three, and so forth. Because right now, Benny, this thing is funded by, like, Pfizer and other people. I mean, listen to the commercials, folks. You know, I mean, we get the litany of side effects more than we hear about issues. You heard more about, you know, side effects from Pfizer's drugs than you did about Kamala Harris's

plan to stop immigration. I mean, stop immigration or ease inflation. Benny, there wasn't a single thing about inflation. Not a single actual question, like a legitimate question about inflation. Because honestly, the corporate sponsors don't give a damn about that. They're going to get their money either way. And then the media is basically state-run, corporation-funded, very much fascist. And they are in charge of the agenda and what is going to happen during that debate that doesn't suit voters at all. And sadly, I mean, I'm disappointed in Trump because he's a change agent and he's not using his influence and his power to affect that kind of a change.

And we desperately needed it. This country's almost done in case anybody hasn't noticed, right? In case you're not paying attention, this country is falling off the cliff. We cannot allow this like status quo to continue. Things have to change, including how we conduct elections in this country. The media just cannot run the Democratic campaign. This cannot happen again. Look what happened when they ran Joe Biden's campaign. Look at us. Look at us now. Right. So something has to be done. I'm very disappointed he didn't do it. You know, I mean, I think sometimes you look at the Biden debate and everyone took away from that. Trump's a great debater. I disagree. Biden won. I mean, Trump won and he won so big because Biden had a collapse. He literally fell apart on live television. His senality was there on display for everyone. It was the ultimate emperor has no clothes moment. And I just don't, and this may save him though, the same media that helped them, the Democrats lied to the country about the president being senile. Right. And by the way, that's one of Harris's biggest, uh, her, her biggest, uh,

vulnerabilities because the country believes she knew and lied and did it, you know, was playing along. I just, I really just feel like if he didn't have that, if he was able to like somehow take a, take a shot in his right, you know what cheek and, and make it through the moment, then, and then we'd be in a different place. Trump is not, he missed several huge opportunities last night to like really knock it out of the park. And he didn't give the answer that he should have given. And it's like, I wonder who debate preps, you know, I know how he does. He's got a very unique process. It's different than other politicians. And I know who has helped him in the past, but, um, you know, there was no Tulsi Gabbard moment. He could have buried her.

He could have buried her with that. And he didn't. He missed a lot of opportunities and he just fell, walked right into a trap. I mean, I'm just being real with people. So it doesn't really matter whether or not you think, you know, he did good or this or that. All that matters is whether the media got what they wanted out of it so they could push a narrative in the final few weeks. And I hate to tell you, but I think they did. And the only thing, like I said, I didn't finish that thought. The only thing that might save him is that that same media who lied to the country

just ganged up on Donald Trump for an hour last night. So it might backfire. In fact, it does look like it is. We'll see. Well, I can't wait to have you back to talk to us about the hard numbers when they start rolling in. Rich Barris, we know you have your show to jump to. bless you everyone can go find it of course on locals here is rich barris's account 280 000 brother way to go baby way to go man thank you sir anytime benny here's my advice and it's my advice and you've actually seen it on display you've seen it on

display because i do man on the streets it's amazing it's amazing what happened you know well i want to do more of them i want to do a lot more man on the streets we've actually started a man on the street channel and we hope that you uh we hope that you give it a follow we're going we built out a man on the street team. And we hope that you give it a follow. We've built out a man on the street team here. And we're going to do a breakout channel for man on the streets. Here's what happens. Here's what happens. When you go out and do a man on the street,

what you realize is that the power is in the questioning. The power isn't in the answering. It's in the asking of the question. Because when I ask you a question, Kamala or Trump? Kamala or Trump? You say Kamala. Okay.

My follow-up, because I've already got you on the hook. My follow-up is, okay, what do you like about Kamala? Name a Kamala accomplishment. And we've been able to do this around the country very effectively to the tune of tens of, hundreds of millions of views,

actually. We did it all through the DNC. We were the number one, we were the number one most viral company of the DNC. Why do you think, why do you think they hate us? Why do you think they're

attacking independent media? This is why. Because we can go to the south side of Chicago and like, show you how many Trump supporters there are in Obama's neighborhood,

Obama's old neighborhood that he abandoned. The power isn't asking the question. Now, I have taken that and I have given that to any, you know, you'll never find a guy who's more happy to help the movement out than me. Vivek is a buddy. He's a friend. And he says, hey, come help me debate. Help me prepare for a debate. Got to have a breakout moment. Here's what you do, Vivek. It's all in a documentary. Go to Christian Welker and say, you're a Russian collusion hoaxer. Would you like to apologize to everyone? Here, the floor is yours.

You want to get Rana to resign? Go to Rana, look her in the eye from the debate stage and say, here's my mic, resign. Let the awkward silence pull out before you, stretch out before before you expand into the room and everybody gasps and goes and looks at christian walker this was the missed opportunity because it's a strategy do you think abc news is going to ask kamala tough question no you've got to ask Kamala tough questions? No, you've got to ask Kamala tough questions. I'm not saying I will most sadly, I think sadly, I will not be in a debate prep room with President Trump. I would argue that I should be. I would humbly argue that I should be because I'm good. I'm good at this tactic. This is what you do. Last night is very simple and it's very, very easy. It's very easy. You start the debate by saying, you start the debate by saying, no matter what their question is, I can climate

change. It doesn't matter what their question is. You start the debate by saying, hi, I just ate a bullet and got shot. I survived. Here's the scar right here on my ear you probably all saw it uh the blood coming down my face uh kamal i'd like to give you an opportunity to apologize to the family of cory comparator who lost their firefighter husband and father because of rhetoric from your side You want to talk about the destruction of the debate? You want to talk about the anchors shitting their pants? Do that. Do it. Do it.

And then every single time the anchor tries to come for you, be like, you know what's crazy is that you the bias press is part of the reason why i took a bullet to the head keep bringing that up it's important this is called signal boosting you signal boost what you want to talk about well that's not what the conversation is about that well that's not what i'm talking about that's all you say it's very simple well maybe that's what you want to talk about. But what I want to talk about is the fact that I got shot. And then when Kamala talks about the border, you reach in your pocket, you pull out a photo of Lake and Riley and you say, hey, this, do you know who this is? And then you just stop talking. Let Kamala look and let her respond. She doesn't know who Lake and Riley is. You do.

I do. You hold that photo up and you say, do you know who this is? I don't, I don't have a, I don't have a photo with me, but here we go. For lack of a better prop.

Do you know who Lake, this is Lake and Riley Kamala. She lost her life because of a criminal alien that you allowed into this. Don't need to talk about dogs. Don't need to talk about cats. Don't need to talk about dogs. Don't need to talk about cats. Don't need to talk about ducks. She lost her life because of a criminal alien that you allowed into this nation. He slaughtered, killed her.

Your progressive restorative justice policies, they killed her. This guy should have been in prison. Should have been here in the first place and then should have been in prison because he committed crimes. Would you like to apologize to Lake and riley's family right now that's how you win because the press won't do the job for you they talked about afghanistan last night and actually attacked they could attack president trump on the immigration issue and on the afghanistan issue it is remarkable to me these are two of kamala's, this is again, how rigged was it? These are two of Kamala's, these are Kamala's worst issues, period. These are the worst issues for Kamala Harris. Afghanistan, that's when Joe Biden

collapsed through the floor. He never, he never returned to having any positive approval rating after Afghanistan. They're the worst issues, The border for Kamal, the worst issues. All you have to do is look Kamal in the face and go, 13 service members that lost their lives in Afghanistan, your order.

I want to give you an opportunity to apologize to their families since you've never spoken with them. Go. What else can I throw that's it I'm gonna throw it all

that's all you have to do and then you just shut up you see how this works as long as you can like game theory just a little bit ahead of time as long as you're like vibing with the internet and you kind of understand like how virality works. I'm not sitting here criticizing President Trump. I think I am low-key criticizing sort of debate tactics here.

Because unlike Joe Biden, we really, people don't know a lot about Kamala Harris. People have seen Joe Biden forever, right? There was really no defining Joe Biden. Everyone knew he was a scumbag, right? really people don't know a lot about kamala harris people have seen joe biden forever right there was really no defining joe biden everyone knew he was a scumbag right everyone knows joe biden's dirty scumbag well kamala harris you need an opportunity to define her and that's a moment that moment goes thermo effing nuclear hi um you so you you you signal boost information that you want the public to know you've never spoken to the families of 13 who died at abbey gate and kabul at your order your suicidal order now i'm gonna give you a chance to apologize

here you go here here's a photo of them you've never spoken to the families now go apologize because they're dead and we can all agree that's a horrible thing so go what does kamala say to that exactly here's the here's the you know the occam's razor here's the trap that you can like force her into and i do this every single day with man on the streets. Not every day. I wish I was doing man on the streets every day. But we're doing as much as we can.

You literally create a win-win situation for you. You can create with the right question. You can create win-win situations. If Kristen Welker apologizes for being a Russian collusion hoaxer, which she is. Then that's a huge headline and a massive win for Vivek. If she doesn't apologize and lies, that's a win for Vivek. If he does what she did and look at the ground, look at her shoes in humiliation and reshuffle her papers and turn beet red, that's a win for Vivek. Kamala Harris and the ABC News team box themselves into win-win situations around Trump it needs to

be the other way around and I know it's a big fight but Donald Trump's a big guy and you can win by having the correct tactics and that tactic would work what does Kamala Harris say in the face of 13 dead service members who she ordered to their death. What does she say? Does she apologize for the first time ever on camera? That's a huge win for President Trump. Then he got justice a little bit, a little tinge of something for the family. Does she say nothing and look down and turn beet red, which is probably what she would do and hope the moderators save her? Well, then the moderators and her are clearly colluding and the whole world sees it. Does she dare not apologize and try and blame Trump for their deaths or something like that? Well, then she looks like she's literally blaming someone else

and Trump wins. Win, win, win, ding, ding, ding. Can't tell what she's going to do, but you can put yourself in just like blackjack. You can put yourself in a position. It's all mathematics, man. You can put yourself in a position to win with the highest probability. That's what you got to do. And that's what I wish was done last night. I was just like, it's, it's, it's, it's animalistic it's human nature driven it's a frequency you gotta know it you gotta you gotta you gotta get on it and you gotta understand that the powers and the asking of the question and nothing's stopping you from asking a question that's the way i'm gonna that's the way i'm going to coach and i'm going to talk to. I don't coach anyone, right?

Our company here, we're making content, okay? But when Republicans call me, typically they're about my age, right? They're in the 30s. When young Republicans call me and they're like up and coming, this is what I'm going to seed into the party because the media isn't going to get more fair. We're going to have to become the ones who ask the questions and set the narrative and signal boost ourselves. And guess what? Here's the sunshine and rainbows of all of this. They can't answer the questions because they've never been asked.

They don't have any programming for understanding. They can't answer the questions. So if you did that to Kamala yesterday, if you like shoved those, if you shoved those things straight down her throat, those questions, and then just, just stop talking, let her go. They can't answer. They will. I'm telling you, there are certain things you can count on. Like the sun rises in the east. Kamala Harris will F that up. It will brain malfunction her.

And she'll fry. She'll fry. She'll shatter into a thousand pieces. And if you do that three times in a row, then the only narrative will be Kamala Harris F's up. Disaster. Not presidential. And that's how you do it, man. That's how you do it.

We wish that we had gotten that, unfortunately. Unfortunately, it is what it is. I'm not even remotely better at this than Trump, and nor am I trying to be overly critical. I'm trying to bring up, I'm trying to uplift a movement that sorely needs assistance in how they engage with the media. And that's how you win, actually. That's how you win against a system like this. I'm sad that there is a system like this, but here we are. Okay, so let's just jump into one or two important sort of takeaways here. Let's jump right to Vivek, okay?

Shall we? Vivek talking about how this is going to backfire and how Americans are going to see through this. And I agree. Go. Well, Harris, did he press her enough on all of her flip flops? Well, I think the most important part was that he actually spoke for the 80 plus million Americans, probably 90 plus million Americans, if things go well, that are going to vote for him. But also for many of the Americans who may even disagree with some of his positions,

they don't want to stay out of World War Three. I think Donald Trump spoke really clearly to the fact that Kamala Harris's words pale in comparison to his actions in securing peace. We're on the brink of war with North Korea. Kept us out of it. Avoided two major wars that we're now in, Russia, Ukraine. What's going on in the Middle East? And so I think he really landed that. As far as it goes to holding Kamala Harris's feet to the fire, you had muted mics in each direction.

That's the job of the moderators. And particularly one of the two moderators I thought did a disastrous job today in feigning fact checks of Donald Trump without remotely even appearing to apply those same standards to Kamala Harris. But I do trust the voters, Trace. They've been tricked by the media before. I think many voters are now attuned to that. And so what we may see is that may actually backfire in a counterintuitive way where people feel like Donald Trump's being set up. Ladies and gentlemen, somebody who was coaching President Trump in this debate, Tulsi Gabbard, a friend of the show and somebody who is a really sharp individual. Her reaction saying the moderators were despicable. What I saw was President Trump staying very focused on the issues that are most important to the American people.

Continuously, no matter what kind of lies or baiting attempts Kamala Harris or the moderators threw at him, he kept coming back to the issues that the American people are concerned about. He kept coming back to Kamala Harris's broken border and the fact that that's causing incredible hardship and people to be afraid to walk on their own streets. He kept bringing it back to rising crime and the fact that most Americans now having a hard time affording the basic necessities because of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden's inflation and rising cost of living. President Trump brought voice to the American people who have felt ignored and unheard

for the last three and a half plus years by the Harris and Biden administration. And tonight, Kamala Harris not only did not acknowledge that the American people are struggling right now, she didn't talk at all about how she will fix or try to fix what she's broken. And I think it's because she knows that she can't. Sometimes, and I want to apologize for this last night, because we get, it's called getting too

far into it, right? When you're too far into an edit, when you're too far into a project, you lose the greater overall picture. And last night, you know, we're so far, we're so far into the, you know, we have the debate poster hanging on the wall, right? Like in the, in the studio, we have a practical studio, all these, all the elements are real. We build them ourselves. Uh, every, you know, everything we, we build ourselves. It's all what we do here is real and we really care. And I want to sort of refocus, uh, and like pull back and like refocus on, well, what did the voters think? The vast majority of independent voters thought that Donald Trump won and this convinced them to vote more for President Trump. The voters who were polled last night who watched the debate said,

we don't really care. And I kind of agree with Rich. I think that far more people would be interested in watching the Biden debate than this debate. I think we've seen enough of Kamala Harris. We don't really care. We know what life was like under Trump. We know what life is like under Kamala.

Here we go. I think it's important to remember that we are voting for the leader of our country and not who we like the most or who we want in our wedding party, but who is actually going to make our country better. And we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in office before, and we've gotten to see what they do. And when facts come to facts, my life was better when Trump was in office. The economy was higher. Inflation was lower.

Things were better overall. And now with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic. And she's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused. But I just don't know if I can afford to take that risk. Were you leaning towards the former president coming in tonight? Probably. And did you have a forum in 2016 or 2020? I did.

So this is a really great point. It's a point that I really hope that President Trump makes in the next debate. I think they're probably going to have to have another debate. I was I was I'm for it. I guess I'm I'm, you know, rich went full guns blazing, but I'm for more debates. I actually now I'm going to actively push for more debates. I hope that President Trump uses these tactics and stays the course because the voters are, well, responding in part to the way that Trump engaged last night. Pennsylvania voters saying Trump spoke the facts. Kamala just repeated everything that Biden has said in the past. He spoke facts. She just basically repeated everything that Biden has said in the past. What were your thoughts? She made, Donald Trump made a strong closing statement by saying, why didn't they do all

the things that she's proposing during the three and a half years that they've been in office. And Biden did this entire moderate stance back in 2020. And she's trying to do it again in 2024. But she didn't talk about her policy changes between 2020 and 2024. Her whole centrist moderate stance is just a facade. Fox News is offered to host the next debate. Kamala Harris said in her statement after the debate last night that she wants to do another one. Am I strategically wrong here? When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most? When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard. When the barbecue's lit, but there's nothing to grill. When the in-laws decide that, actually, they will stay for dinner.

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I truly do believe that. I think they have to. I think they have to do another debate. I agree. Will I come to regret this? No, I don't think so. I'll say that President Trump should insist on Fox News. He shouldn't insist.

We know that in Fox News, we're not going to get a perfect game pitched. But it's going to be better than what we saw last night, which was despicable. Here's Fox's offer. Mr. President, I know when we started the interview, you said that you felt that you won the debate last night, your best ever. I think before the debate happened last night, the Kamala Harris people said that they would actually like to do another debate in October. And I know that last night Fox News offered, sent letters to your campaign and her campaign, offering three dates of debates moderated by Martha and Brett.

One is October 9th in Arizona. Well, I wouldn't wantated by Martha and Brett. One is October 9th in Arizona. Well, I wouldn't want to have Martha and Brett. I'd love to have somebody else other than Martha and Brett. I'd love to have, frankly, Sean or Jesse or Laura, you know, somebody else. Let's give other people a shot. But I didn't think Martha and Brett were good last night. I thought Jesse was fantastic last night, thought jesse was jesse was fantastic last night what he said jesse really got it jesse said trump won that debate that was we won that

debate by a lot now i wouldn't want martha involved okay i would mr president i would take some others trump should insist on Fox News. Like, have the argument over the moderators later. Trump should insist that the next debate be on Fox News. They're going to try and do another CBS. They're going to do a CBS, NBC.

We've had one on CNN now. This is what they're going to do. So, Trump should insist they're going to do PBS, right? A little PBS. Itbs be worse than anything um maybe maybe maybe worse than anything is there anything worse than what happened when joe biden went and had a physical collapse on cnn joe biden still having physical collapses saying he's gonna do a 9-11 okay joe, Joe Biden raises eyebrows saying he's doing 9-11. Got it. Classic Biden. Here you go. I'm going up to my granddaughter's birthday in New York. Then we're going to watch the debate. And tomorrow I'm doing 9-11.

I spoke to the vice president. She said Tom Poole collected. OK, kind of makes you miss kind of makes you miss joe biden honestly kind of does um for com you know for kamala we we did predict that kamala harris was going to have sort of a panic you could you could see her you could tell her voice is cracking her voice was cracking she was licking her lips a lot she was somebody who was um clearly trying to remember her rehearsed lines but did she collapse on stage and and and like cling to her adult diaper no no she didn't she didn't do that so again as we said that media will paint that as a win now uh she nearly collapsed when donald trump showed up this

morning at ground zero and there were people cheering for Trump. Listen to this. There's people cheering, saying they want Trump. There you go. So Trump, look at how vacant Joe Biden is there. Just absolutely gone. Kamala Harris, cringe as always. President Trump with the people on his side, as ever.

Donald Trump then also greeting firefighters here in New York. This is ongoing right now. Are you okay? You okay? We're going to show you up. Mr. President, good job. Thank you. Yeah, we're sitting. We're sitting. We have three other ones.

That's three other ones. There was. There were gone. There you go. Good job, though. And we can't do a show like this without a very, very salty, without a salty. Now I've thrown my salt shaker and it's now in pieces on the ground. So I'm going to have to go fix my salt shaker.

Oh, OK. We got the old school salt. All right. We got old school salt. We got old school salt props. We're going to need this one. OK, so the Donald Trump said animals and pets are being eaten last night. I think this is a trap because what they're going to try and do is they're going to try and find like one

little, like one small lie about that. Oh, it was actually in a town over. It wasn't a duck. It was actually a swan, right? And they're going to say you lied. This is factually incorrect. Fact check. False. It wasn't a cat. It was a kitten. Got it? They're different. Got them. Donald Trump lies again. It wasn't a cat. It was a kitten. Got it?

They're different. Got them. Donald Trump lies again. This is why I don't like getting trapped in these sort of rhetorical arguments in these stories that are currently developing. Right? And so we've done our best to try and make sure that what we're presenting to you on this front is accurate. What we do know is that 20,000 Haitians who share none of the culture, language, or civic responsibility with any of the people in Springfield, Ohio, and have led to the deaths of, well, human beings in Springfield, Ohio, that those people have created great chaos and strained stress on the system and have really hurt that small town, according to the mayor, according to many interviews with the mayor and the city night, David Muir, saying there's no evidence

that anybody ate any ducks or any pets or anything like that. This morning, there is audio of a police call of somebody saying exactly this. Will ABC News issue a retraction or an apology?

Wouldn't hold your breath. Here we go. Of Haitian people, there was about four of them. They all had geese in their hand. They got away. I couldn't make out the first three of the license plate, but I got the numbers. The last number was 9898, and it was a gray Toyota Tacoma they took off on.

There was about four of them. There was two men, two women. I couldn't tell the age because I'm in a hurry going to the station, so I don't want to be late. What direction did they go? They went up towards the middle of downtown. Okay, and what path are you on? Right now? Hold on just a second. I'm coming. All right, so.

To the intersection of. So this is the police phone call. So this does seem like evidence of this happening. More evidence of this. We evidence of this we told you that we would be heading to springfield ohio this week now i've called i've called that off for uh a couple of reasons one namely we wanted to go with the vague and the timing just isn't going to work out um because i think i thought it would be important to sort of bring him in his presence there since he does live in ohio but the time it doesn't work out and i'm saying that we can't do

this in the future two i've some youtubers work out, and I'm not saying that we can't do this in the future. Two, some YouTubers that I follow and respect, some great reporters that I follow and respect, are in Springfield, Ohio right now and doing remarkable work. Tyler Oliveira is one of them. He's a YouTuber that I really respect and hear his video from this morning where he has at least a half dozen people who live in Springfield, Ohio, saying on camera voluntarily, yeah, like our pets are disappearing. And the waterfowl are disappearing. And also it's like getting horrifically unsafe here. How much more evidence do you need? Here's where our salt comes in ladies and gentlemen i encourage you to go watch uh tyler's excellent uh tyler's excellent

reporting here how how what what is this done what's the numbers that this done i mean this is this thing's this thing's flown how many retweets there uh 17 000 retweets. All right. Well, you know what? The truth is powerful, and it shall set you free. 54,000 likes. Well, there you go. J.D. Vance. On CNN yesterday. Getting asked about this. Since Donald Trump brought it up in the debate.

Here's our salt that lived for the day. A very, very salty CNN. Not pleased with the way this interaction goes. J.D. Vance from Ohio gets out the salt. Let's go. I would say is he brought up this misleading false claim that you yourself have talked about in recent days about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, abducting people's pets and eating them, which officials there have said is not true.

You yourself acknowledged it may be false on Twitter. You still told people to keep spreading it. But Trump just amplified it to tens of millions of people who were watching. Why push something that's not true? Well, first of all, city officials have not said it's not true. They've said they don't have all the evidence. They said they have no evidence. We've heard from a number of constituents on the ground, Caitlin,

who both firsthand and secondhand reports saying this stuff is happening. So they very clearly, meaning the people on the ground dealing with this, think that it is happening. And I think that it's important for journalists to actually get on the ground and uncover this stuff for themselves. When you have a lot of people saying, my pets are being abducted or geese at the city pond are being abducted and slaughtered right in front of us. This is crazy stuff. And again, whether those exact rumors turn out to be mostly true, somewhat true, whatever the case may be, Caitlin, this town has been ravaged by 20,000 migrants coming in. Health care costs are up. Housing costs are up. Communicable diseases like HIV and TB have skyrocketed in this small Ohio town.

This is what Kamala Harris's border policies have done. And I think it's interesting, Caitlin, that the media didn't care about the carnage wrought by these policies until we turned it into a meme about cats. And that speaks to the media's failure to care about what's going on in these communities. If we have to meme about it to get the media to care, we're going to keep on doing it because the media should care about what's going on. I saw you say that. We do our very best on this program to just let our guests talk, okay? Maybe I'm at fault, you know, for, like, letting guests go on a little too long. Some of them are long-winded. But I do my best to not interject or interrupt their guests for for a reason i want to hear what they have to say we're gonna allow them to speak and allow them to finish

their thoughts you can always tell when the lib reporter knows that they're the republican the america first or the jd vance they're making a great point. You don't care when it's human carnage? You only freak out when it's a meme? You only freak out because of some unconfirmed... Hold on, wait a second. So one city official, this is how the press works. So one official tells you something and that suddenly becomes like...

How would you have ever reported on watergate then how would you have reported on the clinton scandals how would you report on anything so so all donald trump has to do is get back into the presidency and tell you no something's not happening you're well an official's told me so so i want to believe the official you're going to go do your own reporting you're going to go send journalists out there to my knowledge the only journalists out there who are hitting the ground are independent journalists.

And our in Springfield, Ohio, doing remarkable work and revealing to the country the horrors actually wrought when you do immigration wrong. There's a way to do it right, and there's a way to do it wrong. And this is the way to do it wrong. There's a way to do it right, and there's a way to do it wrong. And this is the way to do it wrong.

Uh, just... And, and nobody's concerned about that. An official told us, that's what you hear from David Muir, that's what you hear there, and they have absolutely no care about the humans that are affected by this ravaging. And so it's, um, well, something that we're trying to do on this program.

Now, I said earlier in the program, I said earlier in the program, you know, I probably won't be invited to go do debate prep with Donald Trump. However, Donald Trump did just post your boy. So I don't know. So maybe I don't know. You never know. If I was, you know that we'd just live stream the whole thing because it'd be hilarious.

That'd be content. That'd be content for days. I'd be happy to do it. I'd be happy to do it. This is not a business offer. I will do this for free and I'll do it for free for the rest of my life. That's what I care about.

This is like the country that my kids are going to grow up in. I want to win. Proof Trump won the debate. Reuters polled. Undecided voters. 6%. 30% for Kamala. 6% for Trump.

10% undecided. Kamala's performative. She-Hulk. Oh, we got Trump to post about She-Hulk. Girl boss energy. That's why I love Nerdotic, Critical Drinker, Geeks and Gamers. Friday Night Tights. Come on. Sneaking in there.

Sneaking Friday Night Tights into the president's feed. So awesome. It's repulsive voters simply struggling to pay their groceries. I stand by every word of that. The offer stands, Mr. President. Let me know when the next debate day is and the next debate prep. And I will be there with bells on, as they say.

With bells on. That would actually be pretty annoying if I was wearing, if you were wearing bells. Something you shouldn't wear, actually, during the debate. Okay, here we go, ladies and gentlemen. Our verse of the day rings like a bell. Second Corinthians, or as President Trump would say, two Corinthians. For God loves a person who gives cheerfully, and God will generously provide all that you need. Give cheerfully, be cheerful. Make sure that when you are going about and living your life, you understand the words of Christ. That is far better to give than to receive.

Make sure that as you go about life, you realize that's not just about money. That's about your time. It's about the effort. It's about the care you have for other people. Some of the best things you can do for people have nothing to do with money, actually. So just physically showing up for them, just being there for them. And so that's what we're going to do, actually. We're going to show up for you.

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