The Benny Show - Christianity Under Attack: Trump Declares 'Epidemic of Violence' on Christians As Church Shot, Burned, with Guests Sean Davis, Nicole Shanahan and Brad McGraw

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

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uh, latest attack against Christian church is a nightmare truly and there's a lot of questions that happened in Michigan church guy dude drove his truck through a church started shooting up

and then lit it all on fire and I think there's been multiple fatalities We'll talk about it today. None of it makes any sense. It's all strange, but it all fits in a very crystal clear narrative of attacks on Christianity. We did give out 5,000 Charlie Cook Freedom shirts at Penn State versus Oregon game. And, well, we won it. We won a culture war.

It was beautiful. We took the bad energy and turned it into good. That's what we do on this program. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Davis, Nicole Shanahan, and Brad McGraw will join. join the program today. My name is Benny Johnson, and this is The Benny Show. Go golden, the golden era. Get ready. Feds are cutting rates. Apparently, they're going to have to cut rates two more times this fall. What does that mean? Well, ladies and gentlemen, it means that precious metals are going to explode higher. The easier and more liquid that

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Well, let's start with the good. And then we'll go to the bad and it just sucks. that it is that it is the way that it is I'd like for it to be just be all good but that's not the world that we live in we did an event this weekend now I don't normally do these kind of things I'm a fuddy-duddy I'm a father of four little kids I like being home with my family I don't want to be on the road 300 days out of the year but I knew that this was important and we had to change the energy I want to make sure that Charles, I wanted to make sure as like a homie of Charlie's, somebody who's very close

to him, I never saw that guy get down. I always saw him organize in order to make sure that the energy kept flowing in a positive direction. And so I wanted to do that this weekend. The biggest game in the country was Penn State versus Oregon. And so I announced that we were going to be giving away 5,000 Charlie Kirk Freedom T-shirts. Freaking cool shirt, okay, and it's a beautiful thing. And we were going to be registering voters and we had a turning point tent. And my team, you know, we're showing up and I'm walking over to the detent and my team like didn't inform me that this was what was waiting for us. This, this line, this B roll line, I'm sorry, this P roll one, this line that is a B roll right now on screen, this line is thousands of people deep. thousands.

It's like a mile long. I couldn't even walk the length of it because we had to go to a fox hit. This line was, it stretched like the length of the Penn State tailgate parking lot down around the corner

and through. It's crazy. I want to show you the whole thing. But I can't. Because we literally like we literally ran out of we run out of time look at this it goes all the way down the parking lot there it's crazy man the energy was insane and beautiful and you know we just stood there like encouraging people took 100,000 selfies uh talked with everyone share their stories a lot of people crying on my shoulder a lot of people looking for encouragement it was our great honor

to be able to encourage and i wanted to show people that like not only is this movement not dead but that when you know when in the in the model of true doctrinal christian martyrdom that when you cut down the martyr's voice you just make them stronger and that's what it was you know these shirts we were out of them in 60 minutes 5 000 shirts 60 minutes would have been probably more like five minutes because of how quickly they went if we had just had like a capacity to give everyone who wanted a shirt a shirt boom gone the worst part about it is that we didn't have enough shirts you know we could probably give away 50 000 shirts there are people that were waiting in line for 16 hours check out this kid

Pennsylvania, Penn State. He's been here. How long have you been here waiting for a shirt? It's just 9 p.m. last night? Yeah. 9 p.m. last night. So, brother, he's been here for 16 hours, waiting for a shirt. He slept here in the parking lot. And now he's got his Charlie shirt. What do you want to say to the people about this shirt? All for Charlie and just know that Jesus loves you and that's what matters the most. My man, Brett. Isn't that like heartwarming? Check this out. And this is the stadium. There were Turning Point USA Freedom shirts all over the stadium. Now, as I have said a million times over,

there were some fake news out there. That's like the entire stadium was wearing a turning point shirt. That is obviously not true. I would love that. I would like to make that happen. I feel like we could make this happen, actually. I feel like we could fill a stadium with turning point shirts. I think we could do it.

I'm not, I'm going to try, right? Find the right location. And then we're going to give away 50,000 shirts. and have the whole stadium wearing Charlie Kirk Freedom shirts. But what I'm saying here is that there were freedom shirts throughout the stadium. People were wearing them all over the place. I saw them all over the place. And yes, you could like put the camera around and just find a Charlie Kirk Freedom shirt in this whiteout.

It's called a white out in Penn State because everyone's wearing white. And the white is typically the, you know, the Penn State logo or a Penn State jersey, you know, or white's one of their colors. But the point here is not that everyone was wearing a Charlie Kirk shirt. That's fake news. That's not true. We used the white out as an opportunity to put the Charlie Kirk Freedom shirt on display because everyone was going to be wearing white, right? So this was a massive success, man.

We had UFC superstars there with us. We had senators there with us. Dave McCormick was there. Bow Nickel. He's a UFC fighter and a NCAA wrestling legend at Penn State. it was just great the energy was just incredible i just don't know i thought like god just blessed the whole thing we are humbled by god's grace god just blessed the whole thing it was uh it's just wonderful it just it was just amazing it was the number one trend sports trend in the world

let me say it again this was the number one sports trend not politics not news that's what we do all day this was like breaking culture this was the number one one sports story on X with 125,000 posts about it. How cool is that? You know, it's just an honor to be a part of a turning point students and activists. It's an amazing job. We registered hundreds, if not thousands of new young voters. We're really proud of it.

And yeah, man, we were able to go live from Fox, live on Fox from the actual tailgate. It's called the Turning Point Tailgate series. If you couldn't tell, I was excited. Here we go. They know it right here at Penn State. Beaver Stadium behind us. Charlie Kirk was going to go to this game, watch his beloved Oregon Ducks play undefeated Penn State today

because we are. And Penn State has shown up today. Look at these Charlie Clarks. Look at this. Kaley, that energy is alive. It is a lecture. here today. We're registering voters with the incredible voter registration teams here for Turning Point USA in early vote action. Scott Pressler with us. They're already signing up.

New young voters in Charlie's honor. Charlie's spirit lives alive here in the kinetic energy of this moment. It's a spiritual moment. It's an awakening and it's a revival here in America. Can you feel that? Ladies and gentlemen of Penn State, can I get an amen? Amen. Chill out. Okay, calm down, Benny. Calm down.

Okay, calm down. I'm just so excited. I just, you can feel it. If you were there, you could feel it too. And it was really fun. Oregon went on to win the game, actually. The last second play, whatever, number 31, made a critical play. Charlie Kirk, 31, when he was gunned down by a train.

Antifa left winger. And there's just a lot of like, there's just a lot of, there's a lot of spiritual energy out there, man. So we want to take it and turn it into something good. This is the model of the Christian doctrine. What it, oh my goodness, they killed our Lord and Savior, right? And Christ then goes and conquers death. Like, so depressing for the disciples, they're hiding, they're scared. Then the martyrdom of Stephen, the same thing. Christianity is just hiding and scared in the upper room, and then God takes that bad energy, turns it into good through the power of Christ. And so that's what we're doing, man. You know, it is amazing that it is only the Christian faith that is being attacked at scale in this country. It really makes you wonder.

Truly does. It makes you wonder. We're going to get to that story in just a second. Alex, I see you have a bunch of photos here. Klein, you want to just swipe through here. I want to just show people. Here's us on the field. This is us with our freedom shirt on the field for Charlie. Amazing energy. That's the senator from Pennsylvania. Again, on the field. Amazing energy. Beautiful, beautiful. Show me some of those shirts getting thrown out. Let's see it. Yeah, look at that. Great group. Just a crew. These are some of the organizers of the event. The boys are based. That's right. Frats were showing up. All these frats showing up. And, like saying that they're Christ Pilled.

It's like so cool, man. It's like, just unbelievably cool. These young men. Look at this photo. This was like a whole frat. This was a Penn State frat that showed up. Look, these young men. Man, that's just awesome.

Man, that's just awesome. Oh, great. Anyway, just absolute positive energy. Just the, we're just humbled by God's grace, how special that is. And we're, we're waiting. we're going to go do it again. Don't worry. We got you. We got we got we got stuff cooking. We're going to we're going to make sure that we continue to win cultural battles for Charlie. That's what Charlie was all about.

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And we're going to chat through like what's actually happening here with Christian church. There's a Christian church that was tacked in Michigan. And I know that everyone's, you know, I know that everyone's going to say, well, you know, there is no trend here. because the guy who shot up the Christian church, the guy who shot up his church, you know, he's like an Iraq war veteran, right? And so, you know, he's not a member of Trantifa or whatever. There is a trend.

There's a monster trend that's happening, not just in this country, but worldwide. Let me elucidate it for you. This is very simple. There's only one religion that is being attacked at scale. Christianity is the most persecuted religion on Earth. Once a month in America, on average, a Christian church is attacked. Now, if a mosque was being attacked once a month being shot up violently,

then this would be a massive crisis for Muslims. I mean, obviously it would be a national crisis. Okay, I wouldn't like it. If synagogues were being shot up once a month, you know it would be a crisis for the Jews. you know that there would be like a massive national conversation absolute lockdown same thing with a temples or Hindus it'd be the exact same thing there would be like this huge like everyone would every member of congress would be coming down

to the floor they passed this like giant amendment there'd be like all the security protocols if there was a Hindu temple or a Jewish synagogue or a Muslim mosque shot up one per month in America, sometimes like shot up, and then in this scenario, like what happened in Michigan, shot up, burned to the ground

in what was like a clearly sophisticated, premeditated attack, then there would be a absolute national referendum the full force and weight of the federal government. What I'm telling Christians is that it is happening right now to us. By the way, if this was happening to any other religion, I would be on board, like saying, you know, let's please protect these places of worship.

Everyone should be allowed to worship in peace. Okay? Live in peace. Debate on college campuses in peace. But the trend is this, that it is happening to Christian churches and exclusively Christian churches. And it's not just happening here. It's happening worldwide. We need to add this.

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That's Benny to 85545. Send that text now. Data and message rates apply. Performance may vary. You should always consult your financial and tax professionals. attack in Michigan to the greater overall trend because the last time a Christian church was attacked in Minneapolis is attacked by someone who clearly hates God, hates Christianity, hates Jesus, the power of Christendom causes pain and screaming to evil, the advance of Christendom causes the chilling of evil. And so they must lash out of it.

They must fight it. They must attack it. They must try and kill Christians. Because evil hates the advancement of Christ. When the bells of the church ring, the demons flee. Ladies and gentlemen. And so that is why Christianity is the single most persecuted religion on earth because it's real.

Christianity is most persecuted religion on earth. This is the end of the story. It's not even close. Christians are being hunted, terrorized, and slaughtered simply for their faith in Jesus Christ. The attacks are getting worse. Pardon me. It is past time for Christians to defend themselves. Hardening places of worship, state and federal protections for targeted Christians.

Federal hate crimes, designation for all attackers. And this was a hate crime, clearly. The date is clear. Here's just a short list of deadly attacks on Christians in just the past few years. In 2025, there's been 3,500 Christians killed for their faith. Thousands of churches attacked, closed, or burnt. Millions of Christians displaced. 2024, over 4,000 Christians were killed for their faith.

7,000 churches were attacked or closed and 200,000 Christians were displaced. In 2023, same or similar numbers. Thousands and thousands of churches attacked. This doesn't even come close. the religion comes close to the type of persecution that Christians receive around the globe. In 2022, 5,000 Christians were killed for their faith. Over 5,000 churches were attacked and closed. Just in 2025, we've had the mass shooting at the Annunciation Catholic Church. We've had the Wayne, Michigan shooting. Sub-Saharan African churches have been all burned to the ground with millions

displaced. In places like Syria, of course, there have been massive Christian targeting. And Gaza, an Israeli strike, hit a Christian, a Catholic church, killed two Christians. Continues and continues and continues. Democratic Republic of Congo, 70 Christians beheaded inside of a church by Islamist extremists. 7.7 million Christians displaced in South Sudan during the Civil War. And you just scroll through this. You just continue to scroll. I mean, it just goes on forever.

We did a bunch of research on this post and put it together because, like, you have, like, it's time for us to get our narrative correct here. The narrative is that Christianity is the most persecuted religion on earth. And it's time for us to be smart. It's time for Christians to defend themselves, to harden their places of worship. to ensure that we as like christian soldiers are putting on the full armor of god but also putting on armor here of this physical world because evil seeks to destroy us so what do we know about so now that that is like the table's been set now let's like look down

at what happened yesterday uh so iraq war veteran thomas sanford idas gunman who attacked the grand blanc uh latter day saints church killing for and setting it ablaze the madman who killed at least four people and wounded eight others in Michigan, Latter-day Saints Church, 40-year-old Iraq War veterans serving the Marines. Thomas Jacobs, Sanford, rammed his Chevy Silverado into the building, and he opened fire on the worshippers. And he set the church on fire. He had deer antlers attached to his bumper. You can see here the church on fire.

You can also see the truck as it rammed into the side of the building. Authorities confirm that Sanford, who lived nearby, is the lone suspect. The source of the blaze was not immediately known, but they did find improvised explosive devices on the church property. Bomb squad was also searching Sanford's house. There were hundreds of worshippers inside. enormous black smoke poured from the structure the church is a total loss

what the hell is this there's also a marine that staged that did a mass shooting the night before it's very strange like exactly what is going on these guys I don't know

but it seems very strange like something about this doesn't seem like normal or natural, but it does lock into exactly what we've been saying for the past month. That's what we've been saying for, like, here's the other, here's the other Marine. Two mass shootings involving a U.S. Marine, Iraq War veteran, occurred within 24 hours. Nigel Edge, the alleged gunman in the Southport, North Carolina shooting, took a few lives, and Thomas Matthew Stanford also took lives when he attacked Latter-day Saints Church. shooting in Graham Block, Michigan, within 24 hours.

Two Iraq War veterans, same branch of the service. Both go on deadly rampages? No explanation for these deadly rampages? Okay. Well, the White House knows more than me, so let's hop on over to Caroline Levitt real quick to find out what does the White House know about this attack? His family is cooperating with the FBI,

and so they are currently trying to dig in and get to the bottom of why he, committed. There's just this heinous act of violence. It's unfathomable. And as the president rightfully put in his truth social yesterday, this appears to be yet another targeted attack on Christians. And the Trump administration is fully committed to not only investigating these crimes, but prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the law, but also working very hard to prevent them. To see if there's red flags, the FBI is going to treat those as public safety emergencies and investigate them to try to prevent such violence from taking place in our country.

You know, Caroline, we had the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We had the attempted assassination on ICE officers in my hometown of Dallas. And you just obviously just referred to the church. Did this suspect leaving the indication that he was trying to target people, more than the obvious of him doing it to a church on a Sunday? Well, from what I understand, based on my conversations with the FBI director, all they know right now is this was an individual who hated people of the Mormon faith, and they are trying to understand more about this, how premeditated it was, how much planning went into it, whether he left a note. All of those questions have yet to be answered, but certainly will be answered by the FBI. I think the American people in your audience can be assured. Ladies and gentlemen, New York Times here saying shooting in Michigan is the latest attack on religious institution, places of worship, and religious schools have been targets of a series of recent shootings across the country. Yes, but predominantly Christian churches. It's not the only persecuted religion. It is the single most persecuted religion in our country and in the entire world, period.

Shootings in Michigan, this is like, what did it take for the New York Times to write an article like this? And then they go through. Look at these examples of the New York Times sites. Catholic Church in Minnesota, Baptist Church in Kentucky, Bible School in Michigan, Christian Church in Wisconsin, Christian Church in Tennessee. They say religion, but it's all Christian. Because Christ is king. Because Christ is power. Because Christianity is real.

And that is why evil attacks it. You know what's weird is that like there's this dude who's the most famous atheist. in the world. His name's Bill Maher. It's a very powerful voice, very strong voice, very unique voice. Quite interesting to watch Bill Maher's try and like navigate truth. And I think at the very least, Bill Maher has like good faith, has a good faith approach to this. Bill Maher is an atheist as far, I think he's still an atheist as far as I know. But listen to Bill Maher, straight up defending Christians and saying like, yo, look, why does the media straight up ignore the genocide against Christianity and Christians. Listen to this.

Nigeria, I mean, the fact that this issue has not gotten on people's radar. Right, no one's talking about it. It's pretty amazing. If you don't know what's going on in Nigeria, your media sources suck. You are in a bubble. And again, I'm not a Christian, but they are systematically killing the Christians in Nigeria. They've killed over 100,000 since 2009. They've burned 18,000 churches. This is so much more. These are their Islamists, Boko Haram. This is so much more of a genocide attempt than what is going on in Gaza. They are literally attempting to wipe out the Christian population of an entire country.

Where are the kids protesting this? Good for you. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. No one will talk about it. So thank you. Absolutely.

Wow. Well done, Bill. Just incredible. We are living through wild times. You were just, you were just seeing like the very little bits. like the burst opening of God's wonders that we are about to see. New York Times saying they're covering like Christian genocide, Bill Maher covering Christian genocide,

Axios writing this article about left-wing violence. In what universe would they have written this? It is inconceivable that Axios would write something like this. Again, we have Sean Davis of the Federalist who's joining us. I just wanted to lock in these last things because I want Sean to like sound off on us. left-wing terrorism outpaces right, far-right attacks for the first time in 30 years. By the way, we know that the far-right data is obscenely skewed and fake, right? They include, like, prison attacks as far-right.

Groups that we disavow, groups that the right totally disavow, the left does not disavow on Tifa. The right disavows, like, you know, white nationalist factions of whatever, you know, violent, whatever thing, you know, the FBI. most of it's just FBI agents anyway, but the, like, I say that glibly, study the Michigan Gretchen Whitmer fed napping. Study it. The vast majority of the people colluding to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer were feds. The majority of the group were feds. There was like one guy that was like, what? And every other one of them was an FBI agent. So that's what I mean by that. Look at this. Domestic terrorism, left wing is outpacing right wing. Now, what's all this data? I don't exactly know. We're going to have to like, we're going to have to like

parse through the data. But just to get this headline and just to get this like, finally to get like the narrative constructed correctly in spite of how much they lie in their statistics, how much statisticians lie and are paid to lie and the statisticians themselves are members of antifa that's a fact and fund antifa these boards and these nonprofits are literally run by antifa members to skew to like to lie in the data and say that oh it's only far right violence we don't believe you because are we have eyeballs and functional brain stems and like axios is straight up out here like like straight up blackpilling the left domestic terrorist attack the left the left wing terrorism is outpacing right wing terrorism for the first time in 30 years well i'll take it what a

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All right, now somebody who's been way too patient and someone who I consider a friend, very few people actually reached out with Very few people have actually reached out in these last couple of weeks with something that, with, with, um, action, like assistance, something constructive, right, to like build back and fight the left and fight these radical domestic terrorists that are trying to, like, kill us all. Sean Davis is one of those people. He's the CEO and co-founder of the Federalist. He joins us live now. Sean, it's an honor to have you on the show. I'm sorry for the short delay here. What did it, what is it that you make of this consistent attacks on Christianity

that happened in your home state of Tennessee? I mean, like atrociously, as much as they try and memory hole and cover up for the transgender mass shooting, the worst in American history, that are happening across the globe. When don't, when are Christians going to like get smart and recognize that we're we're under attack because we speak the truth. You all, thank you for having me. And before we get into that, I just wanted to say thank you for your remarks

at Charlie's funeral. I thought it was just beautifully done. You put the focus where it needed to be, which is on Christ, who's redeemed us, saves us from our sins, so that when we're all called home, we get to go see Charlie again. So thank you for doing. And on the federal government,

and on the federal government, who is their godly duty to strike terror and evil men. Like it is actually, God has, God has ordained them and called them to do that. So you must, like, Republicans, I know you hate to act, but you must actually act here, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we, government has a public duty to protect the people, to work for their well-being. They are there either as a blessing to the people or is a curse. I hope ours will be a blessing. But you asked at the beginning, why is this happening to Christians? And Jesus told us, you know, before he was crucified, if the world hates you, know that it hated me first.

In this world, you'll have troubles, but take heart. I have overcome the world. So it is not a new story in human history. Unfortunately, in America, it is a new story. And I think killing of Charlie has ushered in the age of the American Christian martyr. And as a result, we all need to recognize the threat that we're under. And Christ calls us to follow him completely. But that doesn't mean we're supposed to be stupid. It doesn't mean we're supposed to be blasé or ignore obvious threats. He gives us a brain for a reason. He said, you know, go sell your cloak and buy a sword to his disciples. He expects us to defend ourselves. We're not just supposed to be sitting there waiting to be taken out. And so I think it is imperative to Christians, whether they are pastors or

congregants in a church, maybe there are people with microphones like you or me, maybe they're missionaries. We all have to understand this new threat that we're under in this country that unfortunately in recent history has rejected God. I hope that's changing. I hope we saw last Sunday the beginning of a new revival. But we need to get smart and we need to understand that people are coming to kill us because of our faith. Yes. So what does that look like from a federal perspective, and you're always so good at like sort of parsing these things out and what's reasonable. But, you know, I said this out yesterday. I just had a thought that if this was happening, if there was a, if there was a mass casualty event at mosque every month or at a

synagogue every month or at a Hindu temple every month, that this would be, of course, like this, the single greatest national imperative to fix that trend. But it's happening at Christian churches every single month. And everybody seems to just like kind of sweep it under the rug. Why is that? And what can we do to fix that? Yeah, I think there's a number of things we can do. And I don't think it just has to be the federal government.

I mean, the first thing we need to do is have state, local, and federal law enforcement crack down on these terrorist cells that are organizing this. I know the media loves to say, oh, this was just a, it was a lone wolf. It was just a person acting by himself. You know, sometimes maybe it is. It's rare that it's only ever one person involved in this. Usually there's something going on. There is organization behind the scenes.

There's financing behind the scenes. You look at some of these coordinated attacks. We know there was planning. We know there was organization. We know there was logistics. We know there was financing of it. So I think the best thing we can do is kind of what we did after 9-11. If you were involved in a terror cell, whether in the U.S.

or overseas. If you were funding these, whether you were domestic or overseas, we came and found you and we crushed you. And I think the threat now is no less than it was on September 11, 2001. There is a clear and present danger to Christians and people of faith in this country. And the first thing the government has to do, it has an obligation to do, is track down the people coordinating these and siding them, financing them, bring them to justice, and remove them as threats. Yes. What happened? What's the status update? I know that you were fighting so very closely with some of the good Republicans in Tennessee that still have a backbone to find out more about the horrific transgender shooting of a Christian school in your backyard, not too far, you know, from, you know, not too far from so many like wonderful people that we know in Nashville. What's become of that? Why was there such an operation to cover? that up like the truth of that yeah it's actually it's a really shameful thing that happened that not only were a bunch of Christian children and teachers and staff murdered brutally for no reason

other than they wanted to be at school teaching children to read and write and worship Christ there was a concerted effort to cover up everything that happened there it was a trans individual who you know very openly wanted to go kill Christians we know because she She had a diary of it. And what happened with that diary? It was actually suppressed for years by people who didn't want this narrative getting out. And it was the narrative was the truth that the transgender movement in this country is utterly, utterly violent. And we know why they're violent because the first victim of someone who's transgender is not the person in a school that they go out and shoot.

It's the person who they are. The first act of violence every transgender person commits is against themselves. It's against himself or herself. You can understand why they hate the world so much when they hate themselves. And to get a grip on this ideology, we have to be truthful about what it is, and that's a lie. It's a delusion. And the example that I usually give is imagine someone who's bulimic. This is a person who believes he or she is morbidly overweight, and so they go and they throw up all the time, trying to get skinnier

and skinnier and skinnier, it's something that will eventually kill this person. You'll have a 75 pound person who's dying, go in and tell the doctor, I'm overweight. If the transgender ideology movement had the same book on this person who's bulimic, they would say, you know what, you are fat and you are disgusting, and we're going to help you get skinnier. And we don't care if it kills you because we are here to cater to your delusions. If a doctor did that, they wouldn't just lose their license. They would be tried and convicted. And that's actually what we need. to be doing with this evil transgender ideology and the people who push it it is every bit as evil is telling someone who's bulimic yeah you're fat you need to lose weight we need to tell these

people what reality is it's funny that you bring that up because it does seem you know some people are like whoa you know this attack in michigan there's no way to put them all together because this guy was an iraq war veteran and like what does he have to do with let's say the enunciation shooter uh who killed the catholic school children that were praying and if you zoom Zoom out, Sean, like, what you'll see is that you'll see that it will, like, well, kind of like fighting evil, actually. Like, it's like, the colors sort of disappear and the, the frame kind of disappears. And you can just kind of see that, like, we're in the age old battle against an evil that wishes to kill us.

And it's a spiritual battle, in fact. And that's why I was so uplifted by what happened at Charlie's Memorial where, like, I don't know, bro. Like, I've seen Donald, I've seen thousands of Donald Trump speeches. I've written Don Jr. speeches, okay? Like, I know the way that Don Jr. thinks. You have a lot of choices for cell phone service, with new ones popping up all the time. But here's the truth.

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Switch today. That's Patriotmobile.com slash Benny or call 972 Patriot. I've never seen the two of those guys share their faith in Jesus Christ, like on a stage before. Never. And maybe we will never see it happen again. And I think that's like, I think that, well, like, what a profound blessing that Charlie has left us with, that that was something that happened not at a private event. but at scale for hundreds of millions of people to watch because frankly the answer here is

spiritual because the entities were fighting are spiritual they are denying god as you said they are denying truth and light and there's only one way to really fight that yeah our battle's not with flesh and blood it's with powers and principalities um in that that funeral for charlie was so amazing i had a realization when we were in the middle of it um singing when i found out that Charlie had been shot. My family and I were overseas. We were totally disconnected from everything. And I just got on my knees not knowing what had happened, whether he was going to live or die. And I begged God. I begged him, save Charlie, save his life that it might glorify you. And I had that realization in that moment, I think it was during the blessing,

that song that they were singing. God answered my prayer. He said no. But he also said, I'm not going to use his life for glory, I'm going to use his death. And as a result of Charlie's life and his death, we were able to witness the single greatest proclamation of Jesus Christ in all of human history. Hundreds of millions of people were exposed to it. And you were in that room as well. You felt the power there. You felt the Holy Spirit. You knew something amazing was happening. And then it ended with every single major American leader, the most powerful people on earth proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ. That is truly amazing. So they can go and burn our churches. They can shoot us. They can chop us up. They can never stop Jesus Christ. And I think that

should give us great confidence and great power going forward that most of us, we don't know how our end is going to come. It could come tomorrow. It could come 50 years from now in our sleep. But we all know where we're going. And it doesn't matter how many churches they burn in Canada. It doesn't matter how many Christians they massacre in Nigeria. It doesn't matter how many martyrs they make in America, we are going to win this fight. And all that's required of us is to persevere to the end. I love that message, Sean. Life is for the living and God calls for us to fight for truth and light. You do so at the federalist. I want to give you an opportunity to maybe just sound off about going on offense. A clip that I think has gone perhaps the most viral since Charlie's

death of any of the clips is something that was filmed sort of surreptitiously behind the scenes. when Charlie was in Nebraska. I know we have it. Maybe ALS, would you mind grabbing it and sending it into the production team? So we just pop it up as B roll. It's Charlie talking about going on offense. And he was in Nebraska to try and muscle and bully

the weakling Republicans in Nebraska into doing winner take all in Nebraska, which is of course something they should do. It's an ins-it-it-is-it-is-is-anity that we hand an electoral vote to the Democrats every single year in Nebraska, of all places. with supermajority, Republican super majorities throughout the state. And Charlie's talking about like, listen, you don't understand.

Like, these people are out to kill us. And they want a radical reformation of the United States. And you don't get that by conserving and like sitting back and defending. You get that by going on offense and pushing and fighting back and taking things from them, in fact. And the federalist does this. And in true form, man, Sean, you're one of the only people that like truly actually fights. And it's, this is what I don't think.

I'm so glad that I'm so thankful that whoever published this clip, that this clip went out there because this is the Charlie I knew, Sean. And it's the Charlie you knew. I know you did Charlie show. I know you worked closely with him. Like the Charlie I knew was always like, no, we like go 50 times harder, right? We don't sit back. If they hit us, we have back.

We keep going, you know, metaphorically, right, nonviolently. But like, we're going to win these battles, these cultural war battles. So the Federalist is carrying on that, carrying on that porch. Can you talk a little bit about that spirit? Yeah, we believe in winning by winning, not winning by losing. You win by winning. I'm so sick and tough. I'll put that on a t-shirt, Sean.

I'm so sick and tired of stupid old guard Republicans who don't care about winning. They only care about beating the spread. They care about moral victories, not actual victories. Okay, I believe we have a country to save. I believe we have a people to save. I want to win. I want to put points on the board. And my politics now is I want to crush the left. I want to crush them. I want them to not even be a memory. So I have no interest in getting along. I have no interest in compromise. The only thing I want to do is win. That is our goal. Politics is about winning. Okay. It's not about patting yourself on the back for being a really nice, good loser so the left can go and crucify us and deny reality. No, I want to win. It's all I care about is winning. That's what every Republican should care about is winning.

So we should do what is required within the bounds of law and morality to win. So, yeah, let's stop trying to win by losing and just start winning by winning. I like sitting there saying, hallelujah. I'm like, hey, can I get an amen? Yes, win by winning, not win by losing. It was such, you know, I don't want to. I don't, like, obviously there's a very evil Trantifa member who pulled the trigger and shot Charlie and killed him, okay? But there was a sequence of events that led to that that must be studied.

And one of them, and I'm sorry, you know, I have to ask a follow up to what you just said. One of them was Paul Ryan in the aftermath of a bunch of Republicans getting bullets riddled through their bodies, including Republican leadership, in the congressional baseball shooting, something that I know you well remember, as do I. Paul Ryan, like, didn't take any steps to say, how was this man radicalized? His name's James T. Hodgkison. I'm like the only guy in media that, like, still remembers this guy's name. Because I covered it and I went through his Facebook account.

And his entire Facebook account was Rachel Maddow links, MSNBC articles. Every single time Trump was called Hitler, every time a Republican was. have called fascist. And this was in 2017. This was close to a decade ago. And Republican weaklings didn't use it as an opportunity to take this Bernie Sanders campaign worker and use him as an example of how dangerous the left had gotten. Republicans just like linked arms with the people that were calling him Nazi and fascist and like said and saying kumbaya. And like, and then let it continue and didn't do anything right and that's what i don't want to happen now right i need that this must be a teachable moment for the right that winning looks like winning and defeating like a

terrorist intimate that element that wants you dead like this is what them winning look this is what the terrorist winning look like we must win against the terrorists john your your thoughts finally yeah i think michael malice is the one who said you know they they want us dead but they'll settle for our submission. But they really, really do want us dead. And you may recall at the time how the FBI characterized what happened in that terrorist attack on the Republicans. They called it suicide by cop. That's how they categorize that guy's death with suicide by cop because that's what he did. He just went there because he wanted cops to kill them. It's not that he wanted to murder a bunch of people. And I've had this discussion with friends over the last couple weeks saying,

well, you know, well, Republicans wake up. And I said, you know, probably not unless we force them to wake up. These are people who didn't do anything when they were nearly murdered. They didn't do anything when Rand Paul was nearly murdered in his yard by a deranged neighbor. So if they're not even really that protective of their own lives, they're certainly not going to care at all about yours or mine. So it's kind of like our job now. You know, there's a reason that the people they're killing are the people with microphones, not election certificates. And I think it's because sadly, so many of the ones with election certificates have proven themselves utterly useless and unwilling to do anything and therefore not really even worth paying attention to. So it's our job

to get these people to sack up and grow a spine or to replace them because they're clearly not interested at all in doing any of these things they need to do to protect their voters, their constituents, or their country. Yes. Yes, you make such a great point. It's such a great point. I really wish the Republican billionaire class. The left-wing billionaire class is funding militant terrorists to kill those who are influential on the right. Now, maybe some of them are members of Congress, but a lot of them are like Charlie, who's like a proper influencer. A lot of people claim to be an influencer. Charlie had true influence, right? He's truly red-pilling an entire generation successfully.

So left-wing billionaires are straight-up funding terrorism. And it's plainly obvious when you follow the money. But right-wing billionaires are funding like white papers, a Heritage Foundation. Not a knock, okay? Like, I like the people at Heritage. They've done some great work. What I'm saying is they're funding like white. Like, right-wing billionaires don't understand what time it is.

And that there'll be no more influence. It's not something that can easily be, like, built up, you know, or like, typed away by some guy, you know, went to the Ivy Leagues in some ivory tower somewhere in D.C. Like, this is like a real war, actually. Unlike, on people with influence on the right. And there's just not that much, frankly, because it's like really hard to build. And it's really dangerous. And so, like, I'd love for right wing billionaires to, like, understand what time it is, you know?

And I don't know exactly what that looks like. But they, you know, there has to be, there has to be like an awakening here with, like, entire Republican superstructure to get this right, like now, needs to be the wake-up time. Yeah, see, the left has always understood. They're playing the long game, the right plays the short game. The right has tended to focus on winning elections, which is you obviously have to win elections. You can't implement stuff if you're not in charge, so you need to win elections. But the right has almost been exclusively focused on it, while the left has been focused on, you know, what they call the long march through the institutions. It's been a hundred year plan. They want to

control every major institution and then bend the country to its will. Just look at the transgender movement, for example. It's like a tenth of a percent of the public, and yet they are getting every corporation to post the trans flag, to use pronouns, to go after people who say obvious things like boys can't become girls and girls can't become boys. The left actually understands true power and the right is just beginning to understand it. So if you're a right-wing billionaire millionaire out there and you want to know how to fix this country and how to actually fight back, you have to invest in long-term infrastructure. It means investing in media. It means investing in education. It means investing in culture. These are the ways that the left has taken over the

country, despite the fact that the majority of the country disagreeing with their ideas. A firmly committed and well-organized minority can do amazing things. Imagine what a truly committed, well-funded, overwhelming majority can do, which is what we are in this country. So hopefully that is beginning to change on our side in the people who donate to politics or invested in it now understand you can't just throw money at a candidate every two years. You can't just get involved in even years. You have to be building the infrastructure decade after decade after decade.

Yes. You sure are doing that at the Federalist. Sean Davis, ladies and gentlemen, make sure that you're following those who are actually truly fighting for you. Sean understands the fight better than most. He's got three quarters of a million subscribers here on X, and you must be one of them.

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His name's Brad McGraw. Hey, I may not know him, but you do know him. See, that's what's crazy. You have seen Brad's work. ALX, I'm not sure if we have it in the B roll, but you've got to get me some of the Brad's work. You can get just like my walkout or whatever.

Just grab my walkout from any turning point of them. Brad runs this incredible production company. It's called Mosaic. And they do events, and they do events for a lot of people, but for Turning Point, actually, they've been working for like years. They've been working with Turning Point to make these just remarkable moments happen. Some of these moments are like, for instance, the RFK Jr. Donald Trump walking on stage with the fireworks and the sparklers and everything. I mean, it's just wild what they've been able to pull off.

And it's iconic, actually. That photo, ALX, can't grab me that photo. That photo of, like, Trump and RFK Jr. With all the fire behind him. Oh, it's so cool. I've been doing events with Mosaic. And it's just, there's just no one like them. And Brad is the CEO and executive producer.

Brad's on the show today because he has, like, some passionate and beautiful stories to tell about what happened, the behind the scenes, the true behind the scenes of the miracle of the Charlie Kirk Memorial, something that sets like just a kind of a beautiful ton, there it is right there. Now, look at that. Come on, we've all seen that photo. Wouldn't it have gone differently? This photo goes so hard. It goes so differently if this was inside of a conference center. Yo, this photo, if this photo was at like a convention center with fluorescently lit, kind of like lame corporate lighting, it would be totally. different this photo goes hard because of mosaic because of like the passion that mosaic has

in partnership with turning point uh to deliver iconic moments powerful moments we god gave us eyes and ears the capacity to be stimulated um by the world around us are the incredible creations around us, man-made or man-made and God-made, and all of us God-made. But I've got to tell you, like it's like what happened, what happened this weekend with the Charlie Kirk Memorial was truly an act of God. To give us the behind-the-scenes now, joining us live, is Brad McGrath, CEO and executive producer of Mosaic. Brad, what's up, man? It's a honor to have you. Yeah, man.

So forgive the long introduction, but I just wanted to tell, you know, I just want to tell everyone what a legend you are behind the scenes because you are one of those guys who like make sure that the magic is happening. But, but this was something that was so profound. I wanted you on the show because it's something that we all witnessed. And it's a behind the scene story that has to be heard. So why not just like start off like explaining like what happened at this Charlie Kirk Memorial that. seemed to be almost like supernatural. I mean, the whole thing, realistically, was supernatural. I mean, to get, if you're in my industry, to get a stadium event planned with about seven months in advance would be pretty wild. I got the call with seven days advance for this one, obviously based off the tragedy that happens. We had a big memorial plans.

We were working on two or three days. We were going to go into the arena next door, which we, that's where the RFK event was. That was at the arena next door. So we kind of had a plan on what we're going to do in that arena. Turning Point USA called and said, hey, this is getting bigger than we even thought it would be. Obviously, White House is involved. You name it. They're involved.

We want to move it to Cardinal Stadium. And if you're in my industry, going from an arena is already heavy. Going from an arena to a stadium is like, holy moly, here we go. But let's just buckle in and get it going. And, man, I think from that moment, you could just see gods. I've had so many conversations about this. not only conversations of people that have talked about how this day just changed their life and they've rededicated themselves to Jesus and which is just outstanding, but then so many

conversations about what it went into it, how we could possibly do that in seven days, how we could get the crew together. I mean, there's no way to do this realistically. And as a firm believer in Christ, there's no way to do this without God interceding, walking alongside me and making all these things happen that even I couldn't I mean I'm good at what I do but there's no way some of this stuff would have happened without God interceding for sure can you talk about that stage I mean just to get kind of into like how impressive this is and these are the stage these stages are like the kind of stages that they use for the biggest musical acts biggest celebrity acts in the world 100% yeah I mean we brought in we brought in the same stage that you would see at a

Taylor Swift concert in the stadium Metallica uh Chris Brown all these secular artists that would have come into the same stadium. We brought in the exact staging company who happened to have their calendar completely open that day. All of our crew, if their calendars weren't open, they made them open. I got calls, emails, text from production company owners who I did know and calls and text from production company owners across the country who I didn't know. They just knew I worked for Turning Point to assume that I was going to produce this event. And everybody jumped in. They offered free gear. They offered free labor. I mean, it was such a community outreach and input that everybody just kind of said, all right, this is, this is it.

We're going to all come together. Differences aside, if we're competition up until this point and we're after this point, we're not this week. We're going to offer Brad anything and everything he needs to make this happen. Like I said, and with that, man, it was monumental. I've never been more honored to produce an event. Obviously, it's not the event I wanted to produce in my career at this moment. but what an opportunity and privilege was to honor not only did you lock the front door check close the garage door yep installed window sensors smoke

sensors and HD cameras with night vision no and you set up credit card transaction alerts a secure VPN for a private connection and continuous monitoring for our personal info on the dark web uh I'm looking into it stress less about security choose security solutions from tell us for peace of mind at home and online. Visit tellus.com slash total security to learn more. Conditions apply. Charlie, but to spread the gospel to now what everybody's saying, you know, to 100 million people that day. Like, what an amazing opportunity and honor that I had to be a part of that for sure. Yeah, you were part of history. You produced the single largest apostolic event in human history. Which is amazing. So when I started a mosaic, I started mosaic 10 years ago, I came out of full-time

ministry. So I was a full-time ministry for eight years. And what's the thing? It's wild as you can watch. I didn't know that. That's amazing. Yeah, but you can watch the moments that God has kind of put in line. So as of that moment, there's only one other non-concert, non-secular concert event that's been held in Cardinal Stadium. That was 10 years ago, CCV, the church that I worked for here in Arizona, third largest church

in America, we went into Cardinal Stadium. We had 10 campuses. We went into Cardinal Stadium to get all those campuses together and brought in 55,000 people to produce an Easter service on Easter morning in 2016. So from 2016 to now, there's always been concerts like a Taylor Swift

and Metallic, all that, but there's never been a special event outside of concerts that have brought together that many people, that many time for a service. So when I look back as a again, when I'm looking at these puzzle pieces that went together to make this happen, like God set me up 10 years ago

to make this moment happen. Even the crew, even the crew that was At the stadium, my main contact at the stadium, his name is Shashank. Amazing guy, shout out to Shishank. The exact same dude that was there 10 years ago who I worked with and formed a friendship with. When I called to set up the site visit for this one, Shashank is the guy who answered the phone and said, Brad. We've done this before. Let's do it again.

And we'll work as hard as we can to make your vision come true. So, yeah, when I look at the whole, when I look at everything that happened, like way past my expertise, my experience of 26 years, like it was clearly God divine from the moment we started until the moment we ended. Yes, and it was reflected obviously to the world in the largest apostolic event in human history, but also a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate the differences between the moral worldviews of the two sides, because what you have on one side is when you have like two or three nihilistic, radicalized rioters together, you could burn down like a entire Washika, Wisconsin.

But you have 300,000 according to the data and cell phone track, 300,000 presumably center right people that are there to mourn Charlie Kirk. And I don't even know of an instance of jaywalking. I don't know anybody who like spat gum on the sidewalk. I just shared this with my team yesterday, everybody that was on that event with us, one of our audio guys is best friends with a SWAT lead here in Phoenix. And he said SWAT was 100% told that morning to expect something tragic to happen. Like they were informed in their briefing that morning, something's going to happen.

We're ready for it. We need to be prepared for it. One of my employees has a bomb squad girlfriend that works in bomb squad here in Phoenix. same thing 100% be prepared something's going to happen not one single arrest of those 300,000 people

between Glendale Phoenix Peoria Avondale which is all the surrounding cities not one single restaurant they said they said it was unheard of for an event 10% smaller than this

like where they have arrest for you know for tailgating games outside of the course like so to get 300,000 people and all these people that were briefed 100% something was going to happen and have zero is absolutely unheard of.

Brad, bro, I was at a college football game this week. Yeah, right. Yeah. And that's a lot of people, you know, that the numbers are like, there's 100,000 people there. Yeah. You're dealing with three times that, right, according to data, but still it's a significant amount of people. So there's 100,000 people in that stadium. I am telling you, my man, that I couldn't go like 20 feet without watching an arrest.

Okay? Just some drunk, belligerent, douchebag. right who's just like fighting with his girlfriend or like you know shoving you know throwing fists yeah there were like arrests everywhere yeah okay there arrests everywhere and this this is a much smaller group of people that were there for a football game right they weren't there to mourn anything they weren't there with some grievance like we were all there with the group like there's grievance there's like bitterness there's righteous indignation of course for all this but then there's like like but there was nothing i was there all day

Nothing, not a single, so you're telling me officially, not a single arrest. Officially not a single arrest according to his son-believe that he text him yesterday, that he sent to us, yeah. It's unbelievable. Like, yeah, you can't, you can't make that up. That's all God. So just if you wouldn't mind just really quickly, rewind your career with Charlie Kirk. Yep. And talk to me about why did Charlie make his events so epic?

Man, I think, I mean, that's obviously what I loved about him because he allowed me to be me. He allowed everybody to be their best around him. And I think that's what started. We started with them in 2018, producing their events. We took over from another event production company. And my thing is like just, you know, I love to do what the client's vision is. But then, like I said, I've been doing it for 26 years. So I love to work for clients that allow me to be my very best.

And if you know Charlie, obviously you knew Charlie. Like he wanted you to be your very best. He wanted you to bring your very best. I demanded that of all my crew and it just snowball effect I mean from 2018 to where they were now you could kind of see the repercussions of how the events just continue to get bigger and bigger

and bigger and bigger. It's because Charlie always wanted to be bigger and better. I always wanted to be a bigger and better. The fact that we could partner and just be like hey let's just let's see what's next. Let's not have any limitations on where we're going, why we're doing it. Like let's just make this the biggest possible

thing we can be a part of and yeah the Amfest. I mean obviously that was the biggest event up until these moments, but Amfest is coming back in December, which is always just an amazing thing to be a part of. Obviously, you've been a part of all of them. So, yeah, that's just Charlie, man. When he, when he expects the best, he also allows you to be your best, and which is what I love to do. Like, if I can work for a client that not only expects my best, but allows me to be my best, the sky is a limit, in my opinion. That's beautiful. And it became iconic. Yeah. You know, we talked about RFK. We talked about that photo would be very different.

right conference center if after gop if established a GOP had produced that oh you better bet there'd be like fluorescent lighting you know and it'd be that spark waterfall that's behind him so i got word we were doing that event but that was that was the closest one up to this one that was about seven days also to go in that arena i got event i got alerted 24 hours before the actual event started rfk is going to hit the stage this is official it's just between us and you we don't want anybody to know and I called my whole production team. I was like, guys, this is way bigger than us. This is going to be an iconic moment. Like, I need to add some elements. And this is like a midnight, the night before showtime. I was like, I need to add something. What can I add?

So I just rack in my brain. I was like, let's just do sparks or Charlie's thing. Let's just do spark waterfall from behind him and see what happens. And obviously, yeah, that picture will be in history books for as long as we live for sure. Nicole Shanahan, who ran as the vice presidential candidate for, with RFK is actually on the stream right after you. And so we look forward to. I know she's listening right now.

So it's fun to talk through. It's like an incredible thing that we've all been a part of. So that's one question about the past, Brad. I want to close to the question about the future, bro. Yeah, of course. I want to do it again. And I don't mean something different for me who gets to just like go on stage and let a rip, you know, and, you know, hype and stuff on social media.

It means a lot of work for you. Yeah. But we proposed something last week. I was co-hosting Charlie's show the day after this event. And I started the show off the top of the dome by like, that was spiritual. Everyone feels like they needed that. And what it really was with that event really was, was a non-contrived opportunity for our leaders to describe their faith and their connection to spirit to what they believe spiritually. right and and i feel like that's so important in this country and it's utterly been banished from

the public space right and sometimes maybe it's inappropriate right like if the president's doing a big thing about fentanyl you know drug dealing like that's probably not the place you know honestly to you know to like describe you know to describe in depth your faith you know it's like everyone there are a bunch of different events for a bunch of different purposes okay good fine there are a lot a bit, there's plenty of threats to our nation and plenty of important things to talk about. However, since we are fighting a spiritual battle, why not do that every year? In Charlie's honor, it's what Charlie has said time and time again, I ask my team to go find every time that Charlie talked about death and legacy. And to a man, like every time that guy

was asked, every time he was asked, he was your friend and mine, he kept saying, I want to be remembered for my faith. I want to be remembered for courage for my faith. I want to be remembered for advancing the kingdom of Christ. It is like, you constantly would message that. Yeah. So like, what a wonderful way to remember him. And by doing something like this every single year, what say you? I'm all in, man.

Yeah. I think if, I mean, I posted on social media. If I could go down as the executive producer for one of the biggest gospel movements in our lifetime, I mean, I could walk away tomorrow. My mission's complete, but I'm just getting started. And I think God, yeah, God's kind of brought me to this moment. Like I said, 10 years ago, my time in ministry, my time in this world, and my time in this industry, I'm very open and honest about my faith, which I've got a lot of questions.

Like, aren't you afraid that you being so open and honest about your faith is going to lose clients? Like, honestly, just between you and I, I don't care. Like, if I lose clients because of my faith, I guarantee God will open a door that I even know existed. So, yeah, I'm all in. I'm all in. If it's about preaching the gospel tomorrow, man, that's my heart.

That's my passion. I love working with Turning Point because they're not afraid to speak the gospel and you hear Jesus' name from the stage as many times as possible. And that's my passion. That's my mission. And if I can continue to do that, then you name it. I'll do it for three days of notice. Like you give me the time and frame. I'll do it. What I'm saying here is like we could actually plan it. Hey, that would be. And what if we had a year? Yeah. Like what if we had a year's notice, right? Like we do with America Fest. Yeah. And how much, how epic could we get it if we had, you know. We're talking about not planning. You look at the, you look at the worship leaders.

that we got. I mean, we got the, I've seen it multiple times, the Avengers of Worship Leading. Like, you, those five people are not on tour. They were not on a, committed to a church on a Sunday morning. We called them. They all said yes. They all showed up. And then you look at the other moments. So I've gotten the conspiracy theories. Like there's no way this is all possible, no way it was all rehearsed. Like those moments with the banners raising, the moments with the push in on the banner of Charlie. Like these really spiritual moments that happened that day, I, From me, who nobody does anything unless I say go, none of it was planned, none of it was rehearsed, none of it was contrived. It was all the Holy Spirit moving in the time and the place and through the right people in those moments.

So if we can grab a hold of that and just let God do our thing, man, I'm all in. And I'm telling you guys, I was backstage for a considerable amount of the day. Never. I mean, never at a turning point of that does this happen. But no one was telling the speakers what to say. First off, wander over to Donald Trump and try and tell them what to say. Try it. Like, not going to work. But, but to the, to Brad's point about coordination, these are the most powerful people walking the planet. And every single one of them,

without being pushed or asked to, shared boldly about their faith. J.D. Vance put it very nicely saying, I've shared my faith in Christ more in the last two weeks than I have in my entire political life. Love that. Love that. Like, like, it would be nice, Brad, to like, work with you and let's capture that and let's let's do it again and do it again with purpose for charlie 100 i'm all that you know that anything you're part of i'm part of my man well ladies and gentlemen you can follow brad uh at mosaic right here this is the mosaic instagram account we've got thousands of followers and you should be one of them you can see some of the incredible

behind the scenes i don't know uh client can we scroll here yeah it's beautiful you can see some of the like incredible behind the scenes of all of these events. Brad talking through what they're doing and you can go ahead and make sure that you're following along with the people that just make that just make these events feel like they're spiritual because they are. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Brad, it's our honor to fight with you, my man, and we'll see you on the road, buddy. Thanks, brother. Appreciate you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you that, well, we're just pulling a lot of all-nighters. We're expending a lot of energy.

We're making sure that we are giving the energy up and fighting. Our next guest, Nicole Shanahan, is somebody who absolutely does that. And she's fighting in a place called California, which is a tough one. And I actually, like, I got to say, sometimes it's easy in Florida, right? because the culture is on my side. But what about Nicole Shanahan? Culture is not on her side, but she continues to fight. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

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Nicole, it's an honor to have you back. Forgive us for being late in getting to you today. I have a story to share with you, if you don't mind. Sure. The reason we were late to the stream this morning is they got a call from a well-known Democrat. And this well-known Democrats like, hey I can't believe we're like even having a conversation here but like listen I want to lower the temperature and I'm sick of my side calling everyone Nazi and fascist and I'm sorry that that happened and I'm sorry what happened to your friend and I like want to work with you to just have like a country where we can agree on most things and disagree on some things and like have a nice robust debate but like I'm going to fight with you to like ensure that the dehumanization that's happening on the left of the right that that like ceases and He actually called this Democrat called out Gavin Newsom, of all people, calling Stephen Miller a fascist this morning or yesterday.

And I was like, man, what that is an incredibly uplifting thing that has happened. And sort of in the vein of like what Nicole and RFK Jr. and Tulsi have been doing, actually. It's trying to like reduce the pressure cooker here. Yeah. Well, I'm happy to hear that. I just have to say thanks to Brad McCraugh. I'm just going to go back a little bit because I thought. that was Susie Wilde orchestrating that moment with President Trump. And since Charlie passed,

I realized it's really Charlie and his team that have orchestrated all of this connected with people and doing the things and probably influencing that call from this Democrat leader that wants to tone things down. Charlie is so alive in this moment right now and has unveiled so much about the last year and a half of my life that I didn't even know about. Yes. I mean, you were the first one, if I'm remembering correctly, you were the first one who went out on a podcast and said, you know, actually it might be the time to do this. It's live on screen right now. Again, it's Things of Legend. Yeah. And, you know, maybe perhaps you could tell me from your perspective since you were RFK Junior's running mate,

like, how did this all come down? So that was, not planned. I didn't get an official sign off from the campaign to go out and have that conversation. I did talk to Bobby in advance and say, hey, I'm going to try to provide some cover and start to subtly notify people this might be coming down the pike. I did not expect that podcast I did to go as viral as it did. It went really viral. It went really viral. And I got a little bit of flack for it from the powers within the campaign. But, in the end, I think it was the right thing to do because it notified groups like Charlie what was coming and that we were coming. And it was a whole movement of people that was coming

towards the movement Charlie had so beautifully built. And so in the end, it all worked out. And none of this was scripted. None of this was planned. And there were definitely high moments of tension and friction going into it. Tons of unknown. So much fear that, you know, are of potentially getting this wrong. And now I realize Brad was in the background with Charlie making sure this was going to go great. It was going to be a magnanimous history-making moment. And when I threw out those things, I mean, it really just was off the cuff. And it worked out, thank God for that.

Thank Charlie, thank this movement. Thank all of the Maha supporters for having faith, thanks, for Maga, for well, coming us in. And, you know, thank you so much to Charlie's life and legacy and Erica Kirk for this moment as well. Her strength is carrying all of us forward. Can you please talk about President Trump who in noting the political successes of Charlie Kirk, which are many, but Trump only seized really one. Trump, like he could have gone down a list of like all the things Charlie did, but instead he's like, you ever heard of Maha? Like Charlie Kirk put me and RFK Jr. together.

And Trump, like, saw that as, like, the sort of iconoclast moment of Charlie. And it's really neat because you were, like, central to that. It's really very cool. I don't, you know, there was so much faith that went into each of these moments. And what President Trump did last week and his announcement for autism is what all of the Maha moms have been waiting for, is that boldness and courage of truth, which really is a cultural thing, I'm realizing. And you opened by saying you're stuck in California where the culture is so backwards. And it is.

It is very backwards here because it's a culture of fear, compliance, and just go along to get along. And we can't continue to live like that because we are suffering. Our children are suffering because of that culture. And I'm going to say something that's very unpopular. I am the child of an immigrant. And we have a situation right now in California where we have a lot of immigrants that are just staying silent out of fear because they come from countries where that's how you survive.

You die if you speak up in some of these countries. My mom's from communist China. You died if you spoke up. Millions of people died. And we're in California now where we really have to look ourselves in the mirror as children of immigrants. And we have to remember the preciousness of this country that is built on people like Charlie. People like Charlie who in the face of tyranny, in the face of lies, in the face of corruption, will speak the truth, knowing that there is a risk in doing so, but knowing that we will not survive as a nation unless we do so. And Maha is that now in the health world because there's corruption in tyranny and you're speaking up.

Oh, that's such a beautiful answer, Nicole. It's just so impactful. There are two places I want to go and, you know, choose your own adventure. But I guess why do we start with Maha and then we'll jump over to California? So can you give me because, again, you and RFK, I just don't think anyone ever plan. I saw all the haters online. It'll never happen. And the moment you said that on the podcast, oh, it'll never happen. Give me a break. She didn't know what she's talking about. Okay. You had so much hate from right and left. And then Trump and RFK Jr., they unite on stage. And you go out and you start talking and vision casting for MAHA. And then everyone's like, Trump's going to betray RFK. He'll never get HHS. Give me a break. Right. Like, are you kidding me? Right. It was all a joke. No, it wasn't. And RFK is actually in there delivering. We track all this data, Nicole.

delivering the number one most viral moment of any of any of the Senate's confirmation hearings was RFK calling out Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren for their big pharma donations. That was the number one, that was the single most viewed event of any of the confirmation hearings was RFK going scorched earth,

ripping the mask off, ripping the bark off those two is beautiful. And then, of course, there's been a lot of, like so many successes, it's hard to really enumerate all of them. So this long question, But I guess give me your redux on how Maha has been achieving, how it's been going.

You must be very happy. I can't be happier. I don't know if you heard, but Trump spoke off the cuff. And as you well pointed out earlier, you can't script Donald Trump. Donald Trump feels the moment. He has this killer intuition about the moment and what and bringing forward these things that are controversial and is at the right time, is my base with me? And so for him to go off script at that press conference last week and say,

I'm just going to talk about vaccines. You all talk about title, that's good, well published, well understood by the science. But now's the time to talk about vaccines. And now's the time to show that I as the president of the most powerful nation in the country am behind Bobby Kennedy. And this is an unshakable bond. And he cemented that in that moment. And I believe that the base was a little nervous in the first six months. They wanted more quickly. You know, the base is, the base of Maha is some of the most well-educated scientists

that have been censored for well over a decade that have been dedicating their entire lives, their livelihoods. They have lost their licenses. They have lost everything. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel's out there, whining. about being taken off air for a dismal show with terrible ratings. Talk about these doctors. These doctors are still getting fired.

They're still getting censored. They are going into horrendous debt to speak the truth. Just, you know, the amount of tyranny in the medical world is through the roof. And for the first time, you know, since the coming together of Bobby and Trump last year, but there was, you know, there was a little dying off of the Maha movement. People are getting frustrated. Even myself, I was, I was, you know, looking around. I was like, we have to address this in the private sector.

So that's where I've been, the last six months, is privately funding research that I was worried that maybe wouldn't make it through this administration. But last week, it was kind of like, I could exhale a little bit. Do you view that as the biggest accomplishment? I know it's like a tough question. But what is like the, since you were so critical to this movement being formed, what is your favorite accomplishment, if you may? You know, we're not even a year in, but Trump's tweet where he outlines, we're going to separate the NMR into different shots. I've been calling for this for years now, and doctors have been calling for this.

And the moms who are in the know who get their vaccines from Europe or Japan, they're all in the know. I mean, we're behind America because of our corruption and media and our corruption in the healthcare sector and our doctors being corrupted and getting paid off for giving us substandard vaccines. You know, the American people are so far behind, for example, Japan, which has already separated out the MMR.

So everything that's being done is, you know, it's passed due by probably a generation and we're just catching up to what every, you know, the people in the know of have already been practicing, which is a safer vaccine schedule. I think that's huge. And we're doing, and this administration, you know, the left is like, this is so radical. It's, it is the most conservative kind of slow moving rollout of the obvious. But, you know, we, we, we're so just happy to see it because it just gives us faith that there might actually be a path out of this entrenched corruption. I just wanted to give you a moment to sound off because obviously you care so much about the welfare

of children. You care so much about the future of children in this country. You know, this is where I got white pilled on Maha. You know, my wife's obviously a nurse and she cares about this stuff a lot. But I saw it in real time. My kids went out for ice cream and they ate this like horrible they ate this like neon ice cream, you know, a cookie monster, neon, like all this chemical blue and 40, yeah, why does that lose taste better? I don't know. It tastes like, it tastes like petroleum to me, but like, you know, whatever. And my kids went like berserker mode. Like they actually like, it was like their brain chemistry was changing. Yeah. Like they were

like that, that stuff, that stuff really affected them. And we had, we run a pretty clean operation in my household, uh, and all natural. And I'm like, thinking about these kids that are like pumped full of these on that these these food dyes and these like toxins and and i'm like the the the move that's been made to everything from taking the additives out of the out of skittles to like these massive corporations like saying we're not going to be doing this anymore we're not going to be adding these like food dyes something that's already happened around the world but we are like somehow so behind it americans meant a lot to me as a parent man as somebody who doesn't consider myself an expert on this stuff, but has seen the real world effect on my own

children. Oh, there's a real world effect going on everywhere. There's a frozen tallow French fried company that my fiancee soon to be husband invested in that's like doing 15x. There's a new mac and cheese like box mac and cheese company that's going to be using raw dairy. This is really exciting. I mean, we're, you know, this is. is the stuff that matters is being able to go to your kitchen and grab that box of mac and cheese and know that you're not poisoning your kids. I mean, it's a low, you know, this is the obvious standard, but we're coming from such a low standard of excellence in terms of nutrition in the United States, but there's so much economic opportunity on the other side of this, too. So it's just excitement

across the board. Could you, could you just really quickly vision cast for where you want it to go? Where would you like to see us after four years of RFK Jr. as HHS Secretary? Well, first of all, I just, you know, I just want to thank the Kirk family and Charlie Kirk again, because where I want this to go is I want that energy to be the energy that continues to evolve us as a team. None of this would be possible unless we were working together as a team, that kind of truth telling and courage allows us to truth tell and be courageous when we're up against these massive roadblocks every single day, these vaccine mandates, really is what I think is next is tackling those. You know, California has broken off from the federal government,

wants to start its own HH, California, HHS. And there's, you know, I think the majority of Californians are terrified of that, you know, and I'm talking outside of my own circle. I mean, this is, you know, I'm crossing the chasm. It's very easy for me to hear what the other side is saying. And the other side doesn't even like that. They, you know, there's constitutionalists that are like, this is unconstitutional. What does this even mean? You know, people want freedom. They don't want this, this medical tyranny. And, and California is going to have a reckoning that I think we need, we need the team to show up for. I want us to figure out how to win this battle the right way, the sustainable way, the way that really does bring everybody along with us. And that was

the legacy of Charlie Kirk, is he wanted to win the right way. And he did. And he showed us what looks like so winning in the right way is something that's fascinating happening in california so we've gone so we've taken let's go from national to where you live in california i know you're like such a you love your home state it is the crown jewel of america it sucks it sucks saying that from florida because i really like florida but like there's the the the natural gifts of california the beauty of it i mean it really is like it is like the gold coast it is quite the paradise and it's been just utterly destroyed and everyone knows this it's been just desolate estimated. There's been a purge of the voter rolls. There's been some cleaning up from the federal

level, forced upon California. And there seems to be potentially like a writing of the tables in the state. Can you give us kind of like an over, an over under on saving California. I know this is a passion project for you. Yeah. So a few things to note here. Thank you for sharing this poll for governor. Governor's one piece of it. The thing that I'm most excited about and, you know, I had that failed Karen Bass recall when Rick Carouser came out against it, it kind of the whole thing just imploded because we weren't expecting Rick Caruso to come out against the recall. And so there's definitely something going on there. I think Rick Caruso is very deep trying to negotiate something with the Democratic Party right now.

So we might see a surprise in the governor poll and, you know, over the next five months there, you know, I don't want to call it yet, but I know there's something going on with Rick Crusoe and the Democratic Party. So, you know, the recall failed. I had put in quite a bit of money into that. I helped to get the team going. And so when that failed, I'm like, okay, well, now what is our next big move here? because initially it was, let's recall, let's get the communists out of L.A. There's enough will to do that. And then that's going to snowball into us getting the communists out of the governor's office. And it is. These are self-professed Marxists. And we just have been through this before in the 70s and the 60s.

We said the Marxists shall not have the Democratic Party. and that's when the Kennedys came in and saved us from that. So we're kind of in a similar situation right now. And where I'm putting my efforts is on the voter ID initiative. We do know that there are, there's an enormous number of undocumented individuals that are casting votes in our California election. That's a problem, especially when you know that behind that are Mexican cartels that are getting paid and they're kind of working with the California election.

California government to ensure this endless amount of migration, undocumented migration. So voter ID is where I'm going to be focused. I think this is going to be a really important one. 70% of Californians want it. We're going to get it on the ballot. There's a signature requirement. Luckily, I know a little bit about that. And I think we're going to be very successful.

Okay. So how many signatures are required to get a voter ID in California? I think we've got to do about a million just to make sure we clear the requirement. What about us? You know, we were just able to register thousands of young voters at, you know, at a game this weekend at Penn State. We were able to, you know, we're able to have thousands and tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands at turning point events. We should do like a big event, right? He's bringing in like Scott Pressler. Let's do it. Betty, come on over to California. Yeah. We should do like a huge event and we like organized like a like a smart area, right?

I don't know if it's Huntington Beach or if it's somewhere up north, but organize in a smart area and get signatures. Like get a bunch of Californians bring in like Don and Eric and I'll come over and I'll hype it like crazy and do like a massive event. Have Scott Pressler out there registering voters right and like and bring in like and have Steve Hilton and yourself of course at like headline and keynote. And then we can use that as an opportunity to get signatures, right? Yeah, most definitely. Let's do it. We're going to start signature collection, I believe within the next four or five months. But, you know, I'll be posting about it on my ex. Benny, let's talk. Let's make this happen. Totally. Bringing JD, bringing people who like have like good connect, good strong connections to California. I was born in California. You were right. Like, you know, yeah. So like I hate to see it. You know, I hate to see what's happening. I was raised in Iowa. My parents moved quickly after the, uh, Rod. King riots in L.A., something that seems to happen every couple of years. L.A. just burns to the ground. But they were like, I'm not going to, we're not going to raise our kids, right, in a city with

secretarian violence that's like on fire. And so they, like, they fled, you know, they fled to Iowa. About the opposite of the literal polar opposite of California. But anyway, the point is, is that like every American's heart should be in this, in this beautiful state, this state filled with God's wonders, and we should all want to save California. Yeah. So that'd be great. It's a very large economy, and it's very powerful, and it's very powerful in culture setting.

And if you can get Californians to show up and be courageous and speak freely and not, you know, I mean, there's people are concerned about losing their jobs. People are concerned about their kids getting kicked out of schools. And people are desperate. People are kind of, and Steve Hilton will tell you this. He's touring the state right now. And he said, people are just barely getting by here, just emotionally, spiritually, physically. It's a really tough place right now.

And we have to remind people it doesn't have to be that way. Let's do it. Let's bring in the owner of In and Out Burger, you know? Let's like, let's hit him right in the heart, you know, in California. Let's do it. Everybody loves in and out here. That's right. Let's hit him right in the heart, right?

And she's based, okay, she's based. She's very cool. Let's do, let's do that. Don't tell, don't tell RFK that we'll be bringing in fast food, please. But yeah, totally. Like, let's, let's do like a big, and we can get the first 100,000 signatures, boom, in one day. Yeah, we could scare the daylights out of them. Yeah, let's do it.

Okay, you guys, I'm in. When is this, so, so like early 2026? Yep, early 2026. Okay. It's good time. Right. Plan on it. All right. Fantastic. I love, I love doing it. I was going to call you afterwards and like chat with you about this, But let's just do it live on the stream.

Yep, why not do it live on the stream? Okay, very exciting. Thank you, Nicole. It is so encouraging to talk with you. It's so wonderful. I'll leave you with the final word, given the fact that you just brought up change in California. Our friend is Stephen Miller.

He's a really decent homie. He's a good guy. He has it in his heart to, like, just protect his country and protect his children, his beautiful family. And the governor keeps posting, like, doing the same thing that they were doing to Charlie, right? And, like, Stephen Miller even commented, why do you think they're posting this? Like, he's a fascist.

He's a fascist. And they keep tripling and doubling down. Everyone knows what they're doing here, right? What's your comment on this? What should take on it? So there's the Gavin Newsom and then there's the machine behind Gavin Newsom. And you got to see a little bit of the human Gavin Newsom what's left of him when he spoke with Charlie Kirk.

And he said, yeah, I don't actually think women should, or men should play in women's sports. and, you know, the left went insane because the machine does not want Newsom to say these things. So we got to pray for Newsom. We got to pray for what's left of Newsom's soul because, you know, Newsom the human being or what he was or could have been is not this. This is the machine. And this is a Marxist machine. And at the heart of that Marxist machine is very, it's a darkness that's discussed in the Bible.

It is a biblical kind of darkness. And we got to pray for him to break free of this. Because the last thing Satan wants is for, you know, his imps to break free. But it takes courage to break free. I want to believe in the spirit of his spirit to break free of this. This is BS. This is dangerous. This is evil.

And this is a call for the faction to assassinate Stephen Miller. There is no doubt in my mind. mind that's what this is and and this needs to end now wow yes thank you yeah precisely what this is precisely what a demo a household named democrat who called me this morning trying to be polite and like you know want to like work do our best like to work to like lower the temperature but this is exactly what they said like we have to stop calling everyone hitler not only is that like kind of a you know not only do you reduce like the the the terminology there right and the like the like the to crimes against humanity by like calling everything hell you know everything's hell work um but like

you also reduce people to inhuman um and you dehumanize them and that's exactly what's going on you're exactly right well my producers love star wars and say he's more machine than man now you just you pulled the obi won canobi quote it was perfect about gavin newsome this is what obi won canobi said about doth fader yeah so so you're uh you're right although although we we don't like in darth Darth Vader. Gavin is from Darth Vader. We like him to do a Batman villain. I think he looks a lot. He feels a lot more like a Batman villain.

Um, thank you, Nicole. Again, thank you, Benny. It's so encouraging to talk with you. Everybody follow Nicole. Everybody follow Nicole here. And you'll be, you'll be able to catch us on stage in the biggest political rally, California has ever seen. Uh, and we will, we will launching in 2026.

We're going to go save California. Uh, and Godspeed. It's going to be exciting to work with you, Nicole. Thanks, Benny. Can't wait. Thanks, you have. Well, there we go. Yeah, my team putting up the Gavin Newsom continues.

Like, post this about Stephen Miller. It's like, you're a fascist, you're a fascist, you're a fascist. This is how it, yeah, this is how it happens. What is this? The team just sent me something. A police car burst into flames near the White House. President Trump prepared for a meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu. Who's lighting police cars on fire in downtown D.C.?

I know this block. Look at that. This is right on the 1700 block of Pennsylvania. This is right next to the White House. How's a police car on fire next to the White House? What the hell is going on? We're going to stay up. We're going to stay up with you and make sure that you were locked in.

I want to make sure the kids are locked in. We're going to keep, there's a lot of energy out right now, and we're going to make sure that, like, we capture that energy. We're going to make sure that we use it for good. Now we're taking it, and we're grabbing it. I'm going to just do, like, Ariokin, okay? It's going to be street fighter of energy. We're thankful for you.

We're humbled by God's grace, and we appreciate so very much you being here to support us as we build new and we want to make you guys proud. We want to build new things. We cannot be stuck or in a fetal position or crying or bitter.

We have to go then build new things and go 50 times harder. And that is exactly what Charlie always taught me. So like that's how you honor him. The way to dishonor Charlie would be for me to curl up in a fetal position in a ball and cry myself to sleep every night and run away.

like a scared little biage. That is the that is the opposite of Charlie. And so nope, we're not going to dishonor him. We're going to keep going. And we just thank you. We just thank all of you for like being there with us. We go out and build. And we will wait and watch for God's wonders, right?

We're, we're just starting to see God's wonders. And it'll be exciting. We'll lock in. with our verse of the day, 1 Peter 3.15. Verse of the day, in your hearts, revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give it a reason for the hope that you have. Do it with gentleness and respect.

Exactly right. This is precisely correct. We are the non-violent side. We are the side that can convince you with truth and light. We are the side that speaks boldly and always has. and Christ is king, ladies and gentlemen, and that's all we need, right? That's why we know we will have the victory,

and it's my great honor to march with you onto that victory. Remember, in the end, we win. It's your boy, Benny. See you. All right? gone be faith and freedom on your TV screen stand up strong battle through the night the bennie shows here bringing liberty to light from the speeches to the bates bennie sharp like a blade coming through the lives watch the truth cascade with the warrior's heart this man never fades you know it's prime time when bennie invades from saving the nation to

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