The Benny Show - DC in PANIC: John Bolton DRAGGED Into Federal Court LIVE Right Now in BIG Classified Docs Indictment, with Guests Brett Tolman and Rep. Mike Lawler

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

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after the single most devastating indictment yet. It has been released, and we will read through it with you 18 counts 180 years potentially facing John Bolton in prison will be joined today by some legal experts, Brett Tolman, some congressional experts, Mike Lauer, and ladies and gentlemen, a mayor that wants to talk about communism, Scott Stringer from Boca Raton, who wants to say no to Kami Mandami, who was in a debate last night along with Jay Jones. for the Virginia Attorney General, so I'm not going to complain those. The mayoral debate for New York happened last night,

and the Attorney General's debate for Virginia happened last night. We have clips from both of those. We're not going to a good place here in America. It's not great. We have communists trying to run our biggest cities, and the cities that are our empire cities, that's not great. And then we have guys who want to kill and genocide Republicans,

potentially vying for the top law enforcement position inside of a populace state and an important state where half federal government resides. It's not good, but we're going to lock in and talk about all of it. My name is Benny Johnson, and this is the show. Cold weather is here. Now, in Tampa, that means like 70 degrees. My kids went running outside and said it's snowing because it was 70 degrees outside and it was like a little bit of a chill in the air.

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Get the special offer right now. Use the code Benny. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it's amazing. The time that we are living in, we are living in the efferoundest of times and the find-outingest of times. And I personally believe that it is the most entertaining thing that has happened over the past nine months. that those communists who accuse Donald Trump of crimes are guilty of the crimes in which they are accusing Donald Trump. It is the iron law of wokeism. It is actually part of Saul Olinsky's plan.

It is actually part of the Communist Manifesto. Every Bolsheviks that has ever lived to practice this. We're against the bourgeois because they're going to genocide us. And then the Bolshevs go on to genocide half the population, right? Like, we're against the capitalist because they're here to kill you. and then the communists will go and kill half the population, right? Mousaeton kills 60 million people. They will accuse you of the crimes of which they are guilty.

Now, we found this out with Letitia James. Letitia James accused Donald Trump of real estate and mortgage crimes, and it turns out that she has now been caught, cold, committing those exact same crimes, but far worse than Donald Trump ever committed them. She's been indicted for that. James Comey went after General Flynn, Donald Trump, for lying to Congress, for lying under oath.

For lying to the federal government and FBI, James Comey indicted for that exact same thing. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and John Brennan and James Clapper, they're in very hot water because of what they did, launching the Russia collusion hoax raiding Donald Trump's house and so on and so forth. It turns out that they've hoaxed themselves directly into, well, some real legal trouble. And we hear that that's going to be heating up quite quickly. You're an interesting little birdies tell us this. But ladies and gentlemen, today we were going to talk about John Bolton. Because John Bolton was one of those guys who worked beside Donald Trump and then backstabbed him.

These are the worst type of vermin. I set loyalty and most like good men put loyalty on a very, very different plane than any other virtue. you you will like i you know in the crash out around the crash out that's happening right now and there's constantly happening in the conservative media ecosystem you will often find that i am dain to engage in any flame wars i don't like it a lot of these people have done me favors or i've done them favors a lot of these people have worked with me they've either been in my employment or they've worked aside me or they've spoken at the same places as i have have, they've rode in the same direction as me. And if that is, if that is the case,

then I am probably not going to flame you. I will spend my time attacking the communist. I will take my resources and I will not use it in like dick measuring competitions internally in the conservative movement. I will use it in order to put full force, full flamethrower against the enemy. The enemy is who is here. to take and steal the lives of our children, to utterly and totally upend this country, salt the earth that leave it into a pile of ashes, and create slavery system, a global slavery system,

for us and our children. Like, that is the enemy. They want to confuse, disorient, butcher our children, whether that's through gender bending, or whether that's through literally butchering our children, like Jay Jones, the Attorney General candidate of Virginia, who says he wants to kill Republican children. Like, that's actually the enemy.

So if you are rowing in the same direction as me, even if I have personal disagreements with you, I am going to try and, like, keep the battlefield pointed in the right direction because that is the war in which we are fighting. Matt Walsh very recently said, I am willing to put aside all grievances, and all grudges and all petty differences to unite with anybody on the right in order to

fight the left that wants to kill us. And we found that out the hard way with our with our family and with recent news and what's what's been going on. Like we've it's been tough. It's been it's been tough. Listen, it's just a matter of fact. You know, you got to like really think about your security these days. there are people that are out there, and there are left-wing billionaires that are funding militant groups to come and kill us. So these are the, like, while Democrats are getting their feelings hurt, the real hurt are like the bullets that are being shot at the heads of Charlie Kirk and President Trump.

So if you're helping me fight that evil, then I'm going to do my best to be loyal. I'm going to do my best to be on your side. I'm going to do my best to make sure that you can continue to operate in that fight with me. And that is why I do not engage in flame wars on the right, because I see the enemy for what it is. I wish more, I wish more pundits. I wish more conservatives in this space actually did that. However, there are those who even though President Trump plucked them from obscurity, gave them a shot, gave them opportunities, and gave them quite a bit of fame and renown.

you know, I'm not sure anybody would really know who John Bolton was, were not for his work with President Trump for two years as national security advisor, a very important position, a position that Trump didn't have to give this guy. Same thing with Mike Pence. Same thing with Chris Christie. It is so dishonorable, the disloyalty. Like, okay, so you have a difference with Trump. Like, can you see clear-eyed the actual enemy here?

Don't you understand what we are facing the cultural, Marxist. Do you not see the future that they have said about for our children? Have you not listened to the debate for mayor in New York? Do you understand what is happening there? Fully defunding the police, full seizure of all firearms, full legalization of all sex work. The big viral clip out of that debate was like, how many mosques have you visited? you go what like what what like what country is this exactly this is a guy this this zohan mandami is a guy who on his website right now says my goal is to tax white people more you know he's only been in america like a couple of days says my goal is to tax whites more

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They should have let me do the debate. I would have destroyed that guy. Like, seriously, I will do the Zorhamandami debate. Like at any time, like the view invite me on. Like, we're ready. Let's go. But I, but like these people, they don't, it is indefensible, what they believe.

And what's also in defense. is people that are getting dragged down in these petty little flame wars internally on the right. And that's what they want. They want to solve fight amongst each other. And they want guys like John Bolte, useful idiots, like Bolton and Pence, Christy, and those are just the ones that come to mind. Romney is amongst that group to attack President Trump because they know how effective he is. They want those attacks from the rights. They can say, oh, look, look, Republicans hate them too.

That's actually not true. Donald Trump has record high approval numbers with Republicans. And I'm not going to engage in that. And that this loyalty, you know, it's... And now my rant will be over after this, but you know, you just shut your mouth. You know, you don't have to talk about Trump. We did a debate with the Democrat. This week, dude was on the show, Rokana.

And he was like, Trump, this, Trump, that. I'm not here to speak for Trump. You know, you could, you go ask, you live in D.C., you're a member of Congress. You go ask Trump what you think about him. Okay? Like, Trump speaks for himself. You don't have, look, you don't have to betray Donald Trump. If you're Mike Pence, if you're John Bolton, here are these guys and Donald Trump has done so much for you, you don't have to attack him.

You can go about your day and do your thing. you just brush off those questions. They choose, they chose to actively, vociferously go after Donald Trump to damage him and hope and pray as they did on live TV that his career would be over. Why? Because President Trump held on to historical documents from his presidency when he had the full and total plenary right as a president sitting or former with his security clearance to keep those documents. Donald Trump will have a right for the rest of his life

as the chief executive officer vested with the full power of the executive branch who have the nation's top security clearance, he will be entitled to security briefings every day for the rest of his life. President Trump will maintain the highest security clearance available for the rest of his life. President Trump has every right to have a classified document and to see a classified document. Yet they raided his house with deadly force in order to try and pry classified documents from his from his hands, which he had a legal obligation and actually a right to hold. and keep and John Bolton in the act of in one of the greatest acts of cowardice in

my that I've witnessed my entire political life went screaming over to the news cameras cheering that this is the end of Donald Trump because he mishandled classified information luckily we actually have that clip ladies gentlemen let's rewind the clock back a couple of years and listen to John Bolton talking about this heinous crime. We'll have to prove it. Then he has committed very serious crimes. This is a devastating indictment. I speak here as an alumnus of the Justice Department myself because not only is it powerful, it's very narrowly tailored. They didn't throw everything up against the wall to see what would stick. This really is a rifle shot. And I think it should be the end of Donald Trump's

political career. This is a very serious crime. This will be the end of his career. Ladies and gentlemen, karma is such a biotch because look at this. Here's John Bolton this morning, surrendering to federal authorities for his own crimes of, you guessed it, mishandling classified documents. How you like them apples, John? Moments ago, former Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton arriving at a United States

District Court in Greenbelt, Maryland, he is expected to surrender after being indicted on 18 counts over the alleged mishandling of classified documents. Bolton faces eight counts of transmission of national defense information and 10 counts of retention of national defense information. The documents contained intel on future attacks, foreign missile launches, and human intel sources. Hmm. So sad, ladies and gentlemen. Let's go ahead and leave that sad. Oh, John. Give me one more.

Give me one more trombone for John. Oh, you remember John Bolton. Just a minute ago was on your TV, was on your screen, saying that this is the end of Donald Trump's career. These are very serious crimes. This will ruin Donald Trump. How dare he mishandle classified documents? Let's go to the article, shall we? Bolton surrenders to the feds to face charges.

of sharing classified information. Now, they got James Comey on two counts. They got John Bolton on 18. Holy moly. Do you know that one of the things that John Bolton was doing was actually sharing classified information about nuclear weapons?

Oh, wow, wherever I heard that before? So they accused Trump of doing. They actually have it in John Bolton's indictment. We'll read it in just a second. Former White House National Security Advisor John Bolton surrendered in federal authorities on Friday after being indicted on 18 counts related to improper handling

of classified materials. The photographer has a snapped images of Bolton leaving his home at the Thess of Maryland, and then he arrived at the federal courthouse in D.C. When asked by Fox News at the scene, if he had to comment, Bolton walked into the building. Bolton was indicted on eight counts of transmission

of national defense information. That's transmission. Transmission. Do you understand? He's giving it to people. I don't know if he's selling it. I don't know if he's doing access. Hey, Alex, you have that funny photo of John Bolton like just wandering the streets of Qatar? What's that about?

Remember when this dude was like in a taxi in Qatar? He's like, it's John Bolton. He's just walking through the streets of Qatar. He did this the week after he was fired by Trump. The week after he was fired by Trump, John Bolton is like in his giant mustache is like walking around

the dusty streets of Qatar. There it is right there. What the hell's going on? This was like right afterwards. I'm not, I don't know. I don't know what he was doing, man. But what the federal indictment says is that he was transmitting national defense information. There it is.

There's some dudes filming from a taxi. And here's Bolton. What the hell are you doing, Bolton? Just schlepping, schlepping through the streets of this Middle Eastern country, literally minutes after being fired by Trump. as national security advisor. Okay, dude. It does look like the Lorax, does he?

Okay. Well, now he's schlepping into the federal courthouse. Let's read from the indictment here, shall we? From or about April 9th, 2018, through at least August 22nd, 2025, John Bolton abused his position as national security advisor by sharing more than thousands of pages of information about his day-to-day activities as the national security advisor. including information relating to national defense,

which was classified as top secret SEI level. Two unauthorized individuals, namely individuals one and two, the indictment reads. Bolton also unlawfully retained documents, writings, and notes related to national defense, including information classified at the top secret levels and his home in Maryland. Who is individuals one and two? Nobody knows. We're not sure. Some people speculate that it's his family, could be his business partners,

could be like he's trying to write a book, could be that he's trying to sell information. We don't actually know who an individuals wanted to are, ALX. Let me know by, for any reason, we actually do know. But as far as I know, as of time of recording, we don't. My goodness, they're singing again. Oh, no. Okay, let me read you the indictment.

And then we'll go to, are Libs singing outside of, is this outside of the Bolton courthouse? Oh, no. I'm so sorry. Well, Bolton transmitted, the documents that Bolton transmitted were unauthorized to view, classified documents. Those documents, according to the indictment, reveal intelligence about future attacks. They reveal real sensitive information about the U.S. Intelligence Committee. Intelligence, the foreign adversary was planning a missile launch, a future, a covert

action foreign country related to sensitive intergovernment agencies along with this information. They also include nuclear secrets. Goodness gracious. The FBI's investigation revealed that John Bolton transmitted top secret information using personal online accounts, a personal server. and retained the documents at his house in direct violation of the law, says Cash Patel. These cases are based on meticulous work, dedicated career professionals at the FBI who followed the facts

without fear, weaponization of justice will not be tolerated. The FBI will stop at nothing to bring justice to anybody who threatens national security. Bolton's home was raided, along with his office, was raided. They found classified documents according to reports at both. So there you go. John Bolton, another in a very long line. of total and complete humiliations. The indictment right here,

we'll always show you the indictment. You'll see a lot of different U.S. codes that have been violated here. It's the criminal indictments here. Again, it is a truly remarkable thing that John Bolton was such a little attack dog, such an attack dog, against President Trump.

As it pertained to President Trump, legal retention of classified information. And yet here he is. President Trump, speaking of, an absolute classic, an absolute master, when offered the information that John Bolton had been indicted on 18 counts, 10 years per count, 180 years in prison. Yikes. John Bolton is in his 70s. So goodness gracious, facing absolutely the rest of his life in jail for this. Donald Trump pulled the Ruth Bader Ginsburg card, which is chef kiss. Brother Donald was just indicted by a grand jury in Maryland. Do you have a reaction to that? I didn't know that. You tell me for the first time, but I think he's, you know, a bad person. I think he's a bad guy. Yeah, he's a bad guy. It's too bad, but it's the way it goes.

boys i'm not going to miss the flashback here i'm not going to miss it we got to get you got to get me you got to get me tiny dancer ruth bader ginsberg i can't admit you can't miss the flashback it's one of the it's one of the best trump clips ever thank you a lx he had it right in the pocket danny and a lx great just such excellent producers had it right in the pocket here we go president trump thing a legend so you guys says you just you just you just Just to, John Bolton's been indicted. Oh, I didn't know. You're telling me for the first time.

Where have I heard that before? She just died? Wow. I didn't know that. I just, you're telling me now for the first time. She led an amazing life. What else can you say? She was an amazing woman.

Whether you agreed or not, She was an amazing woman who led an amazing life. I'm actually sad to hear that. I have sad to hear that. Thank you very much. It's pure Kino. It's pure cinema. Where's Martin Scorsese?

That was cinema. I don't even know. Is there a more political, is there a more perfect clip in the history of politics than this? It is the most perfect clip in the history of political filmmaking, period. This is our rosebud. This is our citizen cane. This is it. This is citizen cane.

Wow. You're just telling me now for the first time. And then Elton John is belting it out in the background. And you can see Trump like, how to get another Supreme Court justice. I'm going to be able to strike down Article 2 of the voter rights out. Fantastic. Goodness gracious. You know, I wouldn't like be, I wouldn't be as gratuitous in our criticism of Bolton

if he hadn't done stuff like this. There are thousands of hours of John Bolton dunking on Trump, attacking Donald Trump, these exact same things. John Bolton was never president. John Bolton was never president. Donald Trump as president. He's just one of like 40 dudes that have ever been president. Donald Trump in that position has these very special privileges.

Yes, becoming president makes you special. You get secret service for the rest of your life, even if you're just Jimmy Carter putzing around in a dusty peanut field. You get secret service for the rest of your life. you can get classified briefings for the rest of your life. You can get a daily presidential brief for the rest of your. You are entitled to that. You don't have to take it, but you're entitled to that.

A man will show up with a binder to tell you about the threats of the world in a very classified manner. John Bolton damn well knew this and knew that Donald Trump had a right to maintain top secret documents. And John Bolton still attacked President Trump. Here's another example. Any given moment. But I don't think he cared about. the classification system. I don't think he appreciated the sensitivity of this information, and he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of how it was often acquired the so-called sources and methods.

So this had been briefed to him before I arrived. It was repeated frequently. I think it simply had no impact on him whatever. There's a couple of different ways that people think about this, and people who are not friendly to the president, who think about what's happened here. And one of them is, you know, Donald Trump master thief, you know, criminal running some kind of elaborate conspiracy to bring things out of the White House and keep them secret, for potentially for political or financial gain. There are other people who add its attitude is Trump is chaotic. He's careless. He's not that smart. He just, he took these things almost by mistake. And now he's basically stamping his feet and saying they're mine. I don't want to give them up. Give me a sense of where you think the truth lies with respect to Trump's intelligence, carelessness, and the degree to which he might have brought motive to bear on taking these documents out of the White House and keeping them for this long at Mar-a-Lago.

Well, I don't, it's very hard to speculate on motive other than that he liked cool things. He saw things that he, so he wanted to take them, and he was pretty much able to take them. And not just on classified information matters on all kinds of things that crossed his desk. Some days he liked to eat a lot of French fries. Some days he took classified documents. He wanted them. Why did he want them? Because he could get them.

Right. What a jerk. You know, he's just a jerk. You're being a jerk. The dude hired you. It's just loyalty. It is. And it is disloyalty.

in a manner that really affects the country because what you're doing is you're taking all of your credentials that you've gotten through your years of service and John Bolton's been working in the federal government for decades, right, since the 80s, you're taking all that credentialism, you're lying on President Trump's name and then you're saying that the president's a criminal for doing something that he has every leader. right to do. And in fact, an obligation. I don't like Barack Obama, but Barack Obama has a right to secret service for the rest of his life. I would never ever criticize that policy. And Barack Obama also has a right to get security briefings about the state of the world,

since he, well, for better or worse, helped craft the state of that world and will be, will be threatened one way or the other by the state of the globe. Okay. And so I don't argue with that. John Bolton damn well knows that. He's going on TV and he's lying about Trump. Now you can sort of like see some of the warning signs here is a good example. Here's a photo of John Bolton holding up a grenade. Pretty, uh, pretty interesting. Not AI. Why is John Bolton holding a grenade here exactly. Is there some backstory that could potentially tell us about where John Bolton's true allegiances lie? Let's listen. I think a lot of Republicans right now just wish Cash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, and a number of other Trump nominees would just go away. Oh, no, no. We played the

wrong clip. Here we go. Nope, that's all right. I might say I've got some personal experience here. I was in charge of policy and budget at USAID during the Reagan administration. When we undertook a major effort to fix it and i'm going to show you my farewell present from a i d you can see it's a hand grenade and it says on it john r bolton truest reaganaut a i d 1983 this is a style of government and uh and that's the way we approached it well hang on wait a second so you got an award from the peacemaking people, that's a grenade, the USAID. Remember, the people that are just there to build schools in Botswana and deliver bags of grain to hungry people.

Here's your grenade that you got from that peaceful organization. Got it. Okay, John, got it. John Bolton's a very creepy, just loyal, bad person. I'm glad that he's indicted. You know, you actually love to see it. It's a, you know, it's going to be a massive warning sign to people. And also, I wanted to cover sort of the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the couple of things about the way that internet rumors work. There is a rumor out here that Mike Pence will be next. I want to pop that up. Uh, there's just some of the, yeah, sure. Uh, former vice president Mike Pence has been implicated. in the DOJ's investigation, a former national security advisor, John Bolton. This tweet is going viral. I had my team run this down. We have a great research team here

and our production team. And now, while this has done 20,000 reposts and millions of views, and while I would, I guess I wouldn't be surprised if that ended up being true. As of right now, we don't have any evidence that there is any classified document sharing indictment in the wings for mike pence the oj did close a mike pence classified documents investigation a couple of years ago mike pence you have a lot of choices for cell phone service with new ones popping up all the time but here's the truth there's only been one cell phone company that stands in the gap for every American that believes in freedom and believes that freedom is worth fighting for, and that's Patriot Mobile. The good news is you can switch to Patriot Mobile today without

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that Mike Pence is currently under investigation or a target of this. Maybe there's things they can't tell us. I don't know. I'm trying to tell you that this can't be true. But it is worth saying that in 2023, they did a full investigation into Mike Pence and handling classified information and it did not turn up. to be something that he would be indicted over. Mike Pence did, I guess, turn over some documents

that would be considered classified. So I guess everyone has them, right? Okay. Very interesting times. Very interesting times. There is a massive sense of F around and find out. a massive energy of Fafo that it is

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Go to Patriotmobile.com slash Benny, call 972 Patriot. Use the promo code Benny for free month of service, rock and roll. Democrat, Attorney General candidate Jay Jones, grilled over reckless driving conviction by GOP opponent. Jay Jones, the guy who has been sending text messages saying that he wants to kill Republicans, finally was dragged on stage yesterday, and here's what he had to say. And you're also going to hear from my opponent about text messages that I sent that I deeply, deeply regret. Let me be very clear.

I am ashamed. I am embarrassed. and I'm sorry. I am sorry to Speaker Gilbert. I'm sorry to his family. I'm sorry to my family. And I'm sorry to every single Virginia. I cannot take back what I said.

But you have my word that I will always be accountable for my mistakes. And you also have my word that I will spend every waking moment fighting for you. What a prick. What a jerk. Said that he wanted to kill Republicans and their little fat. children. Jason Miaris had a fantastic response. He's a friend of the program. He's the current Attorney General of Virginia. Let's listen. And I find that a little bit stunning that today you say one of the pillars of your public safety platform is protecting children. Were you protecting

Jennifer's children when you said you wanted to see them die in their mother's arms? How can anybody who's ever worked in any of the crimes against children, all of the areas of federal and state local law department, how can they ever take you seriously, be the top process? knowing that you view the children should die to advance a political agenda. It's unconscionable and if you were truly sorry, you would not be running for this office because you disqualified yourself. Beautiful. Well done.

Well done. I don't know what else, you know, I'm going back and forth on how to message this because it's a crazy timeline right now where there are Democrats running for high. high law enforcement office that want to actually kill Republicans and they're saying it publicly and it's like part of a platform. And it's actually how you get disintegrationism as a nation. It's actually how you create a zero-stress society, secretary and violence in civil war. And so this was like a perfect opportunity for Republicans to disavow this and we have and for Democrats to disavow it, but they haven't. And they won't.

And that's because they approve of it, actually. And they approve of it because it gets them political power. And it shows you sort of precisely where that party is. And it's a place of desperation. It's extremely sad to see. And the fact that this individual, I mean, I guess on some level, it's nice that he's like, it's nice that he's still running because he's collapsing in the polls. He's exposed the Democrat Party for exactly how low they will stoop for power.

It is grotesque. But if he were to just bow out, that it would have solved the issue for them. Him staying in stubbornly actually creates an opportunity for us to show the difference. Sometimes I wonder, ladies and gentlemen, if we're doing enough to demonstrate the difference we're going to be setting our hearts like Flint on ensuring that the nation knows what the difference is between the two parties. And the major takeaway from this debate in Virginia, that Jay Jones, just like the race in New Jersey, the main goal will be prosecuting Donald Trump.

This is it. This is all the Democrat Party has. Again, Virginians are just waiting for you to prosecute a case against Donald Trump. People are hurting right now. What do you say to those federal workers who were at home who got fired illegally earlier this year? What do you say to those people who are going to lose their health care, based on a plan that you wrote a few years ago, by the way? What do you say to those families who are struggling right now because the tariffs that have also been declared illegal have destroyed their bank accounts? If you're going to prosecute a case, you should prosecute the president, but you're too afraid, you're too scared and you're too weak to stand up to him.

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this month. So go pick up a bag. Ladies and gentlemen, somebody who may be picking up the bag in New York City, Zohan Mandami, Kami Mandami, was out last night on the debate stage against Andrew Cuomo. I don't know, man. I saw that, I watched the debate. He just, I completely out class Cuomo and just bought you know he just this guy now according to all available polls is just on a romp to become the next mayor of new york city joining us now is a member of congress from new york to talk about it uh representative mike lower is the representative from new york District 17 and is, well, had a very interesting conversation with Hakeem Jeffries recently. I want to make sure that we play that clip.

But I want to figure out what the hell is going on in New York City. So the congressman is on to chat with us about that. Let's go. Hey, Congressman. How you doing? I love that. I love your greatest hits with Hakeem Jeffries. That was fun. I don't know what the status is on the shutdown. Little birdies on the hill tell me that they're going to try and hold off to the no Kings rally that's going to happen this weekend. And then they're all going to capitulate. Is that what they're saying for the government shutdown? Well, thanks for having me on, Benny. Appreciate it. Appreciate the work you do. Look, based on everything we've seen, the Democrats are hell-bent on holding out through this weekend for their no-king's rally. It's going to be fascinating to see what the pro-Hamas wing of the Democratic Party has to say at this rally, given that they demanded a ceasefire and President Trump delivered on

that. You know, my gut reaction to it is that they'll find new talking points to rage about because the reality is this was never about a ceasefire and it was never about freeing Palestine. It was always about eradicating the state of Israel. But they have no interest in opening the government back up. And so I think this is going to drag on for quite a while, frankly, because for their far-left base, Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are trying to appease them. They are petrified of a primary from the left. Hakeem Jeffries is worried about a New York City Councilman Chi Jose, who is a strong supporter and close friend of Zoran Mondani.

And Chuck Schumer is absolutely horrified at the prospects of losing to AOC. And so, you know, they are doing everything they can to appease this radical base. This is not about health care. It's not about spending. It is about politics. It is about trying to show their base that they are fighting back against Donald Trump. That's it. That's all it's about.

So here we have a on screen, Congressman, you approaching Hakeem Jeffries with these exact criticisms. I loved it. And I'd love to have more actual debate in Congress and sharing of ideas. is, Hakeem Jeffries, man, he just ain't it, you know? Like, they keep trying to make fetch happen here. He's just, like, not charismatic. He's really lame, and he just has no inspirational ideas. He does FaceTune and Photoshop, uh, his own hips, which is weird.

I don't know why he does that, but he does that in tons of photos. It seems a little creepy for like a grown man to do that as well. I'm not sure if that's exactly what you were here to debate him on, the amount of like, editing he does to his own photos. But it was very unimpressive his argument with you. And he didn't really have a great response. What was this like? It was quite remarkable. You know, first of all, he described himself later after the interaction, you know, as Brooklyn Hakeem. He accused me of thinking that I was, you know, coming up to Beltway Hakeem, but I got Brooklyn Hakeem. Really, it was more dollar store Obama than anything else. But the fact is, you know,

is that he had no argument. And he knew I was there. I had told his deputy chief of staff that I was going to ask him, point blank, will you sign on to this bill? Since you say it's about health care, sign on to this bipartisan bill to extend the ACA subsidy by one year. And so he knew and he came charging out as if somehow he was going to intimidate me or, you know, overpower me in the conversation. He was so arrogant. And what made me laugh about it is it's like, bro, we both represent 780,000 people, and we both have one vote. You're no more important, you're no more special. The fact is that you have failed as a leader. And he couldn't answer a single question. All he could do was stutter, stammer, yell, pound his, you know, poke his finger at me. And, you know,

talk about Donald Trump. And my point was, look, if you're saying it's about health care, sign on to this bill. We passed a clean CR to keep the government open and funded. You voted to shut it down. It's that simple. You're petrified of AOC. You're petrified of Zoran Mondani. And by the way, why won't you endorse them?

Why haven't you endorsed them yet? What are you afraid of? Go ahead. He's the leader of your party now. And, you know, they have no answer to anything except to yell about Trump. And that's really all this is. It's one big show for them. It's pretty embarrassing when you're so insecure as an adult man and as someone who is leading one of the major parties in the House of Representatives when you have to do this in your photos.

You know, we talk a lot about the sombreros that were put on Hakeem Jeffries, but we don't talk enough about Photoshop gate where he was caught. photoshopping, I mean, what, I don't know if he's trying to be run DMC here or what, but like you can see that you see how the bench bends, you know, that means that he's like, he's like, what do you call a man who's this insecure? Like, dude, you're in your 50s. Like, why are you Kardashian level photoshopping, uh, uh, photos of yourself? And there's a lot of these, actually. They were able to go and invest, they, they found like him doing. this to like virtually every photo posts of it online you should also not be posting photos of yourself as a 50 year old like this episode is brought to you by peloton a new era of fitness

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now. I mean, this is their way to try and appeal to, I guess, the younger generation. And they're just failing miserably at it. And you can see why they have a real challenge. The Democrats are in search of a leader. They're rudderless. And Jeffries and Schumer ain't cutting it. And, you know, they're both from Brooklyn. You know, they're supposed to be, you know, hip and trendy. And it's just, it's actually, it's embarrassing. It's quite pathetic, frankly. So we have your Democrat opponent, you have a Democrat running against you, who looks like he's made in a laboratory for soyboys. I've never seen anyone so, this guy looks like if the McDonald's soft serve machines, like actually worked, like this guy is so soft and he's such a,

he's like exactly who people thought. We're prosecuting January 6 cases at the FBI. And we've roasted this guy before on the champion. But he's just this like doughy, lispy dude who's like, I'm, you know, I'm a federal agent and I'm here to make sure that Donald Trump's not a Russian agent. Like, like he puts in his ad like I like I went after grandmothers on January 6th. He's total cringe, but now it looks like he's been caught saying he wants to defund ICE, which is wildly unpopular. But I guess in line with the, I guess in line with the modern Democrat Party. your comments on your uh democrat opponent here uh who's running against you a lot of great memes

of this guy too so i guess i'm glad he's running but the floor is yours there uh well there's eight of them right now i have eight democrat opponents announced it's uh it's it's insane and my district's one of the most competitive in the country i have uh you know kamala harris won my district by half a point in 2024. Joe Biden won it by 10 points. It's home to the Clintons and George Soros. So by no means a Republican bastion. But, you know, this guy moved up from Virginia. Another candidate, Kate Conley moved up from Virginia to try and run here. You got a former, you know, news anchor running here. He's calling to defund ICE. Kate Conley says that we need to cut ICE's budget, you know, they don't want law enforcement to do their jobs. And it's really remarkable

when you think about where the Democratic Party is. You have Zohran Mandani that wants to defund the police, that wants to shut down prisons, that wants to legalize prostitution. He was asked in the debate last night about legalizing prostitution. And he tried to say, well, you know, we're not going to enforce the law against them. This is the fundamental problem. They don't want to enforce the law against criminals. They want to go after law-abiding citizens. They want to take away constitutional protections for law-abiding gun owners, for instance, but they don't want to prosecute criminals who use guns in the commission of a crime. Zoran Mandani was asked by Martha McCown the other day, should Hamas lay down its arms? And he said, I have no opinion

about that. But he wants to arrest BB Netanyahu if he comes to New York City. I mean, this is the absurdity of today's Democratic Party. It's the absurdity of the policy positions that they are taking on the radical left and that their leadership, quote unquote, is cowtowing to. They're bending the knee to people like Zoron, to people like AOC and Bernie Sanders, because they are petrified that that's where the energy is on the left. That's where the base of their party is. And so when you get people like Mike Sacks coming out and saying, you know, they want to defund ICE or Kate Conley saying she wants to. cut ICE's budget. It's just wrong. It's fundamentally wrong. But this is, this is where their party is. This is where the base of their party is when they say, oh, we're not trying to give

illegal's health benefits. Of course they are. In New York State, Kathy Hochel expanded Medicaid to allow illegal immigrants to get health benefits. And I got her on record before Congress testifying to that point. So when Hakeem Jeffrey's and Chuck Schumer say, no, no, we're not trying to do that. Meanwhile, the governor of their home state is actually doing that. It's all a bunch of nonsense. And so they try to Bob and Weave, they try to say they're not advocating for these policies. But the fact is they don't believe in enforcing our immigration laws. They don't believe in supporting ICE agents. They have no problem with citizens or protesters getting in the way of ICE performing their duties. They don't believe those folks should be prosecuted. Hell, we have members of

Congress that have assaulted ICE agents. They don't care. And that is a fundamental problem. The number one viral clip out of the debate last night is not what I wanted it to be, which would be this section of Zoron Mondami's platform on his website, which says that he wants to tax white people more. It's a fascinating thing to just straight up admit it. On some level, it's like, I'm glad you're just admitting it.

Like, okay, you know, some honesty, I suppose. But this didn't get asked, sadly. Hopefully, I'll be able to moderate the next debate. But an attack factor was like, how many mosques have you visited? Which I think it was like, was fascinating. So what does that say exactly? You know, Zoran Hindami, like, he just arrived here a couple of years ago, right? In America.

It's a fascinating thing. He became a citizen in 2018 of the United States and got elected to the New York State Assembly in 2020. I served with him one term in the State Assembly before I came to Congress. And these policy positions that he's espousing, he espoused when he ran. His Assembly District underlays AOC's congressional district. He came in on that AOC wave once she got elected. She started recruiting and mobilizing these socialist Democrats to run for city council, to run for State Assembly to run for State Senate. And they've grown significantly. And so when you hear policy positions like he's espousing, where he talks about wanting to tax white wealthy neighborhoods

at a higher tax rate than other neighborhoods solely based on race, it's outrageous. But he's also advocating for seizing control of private property, for banning private property ownership, for freezing the rent for free busing. He wants to raise taxes by $9 billion. You know, these are the policies of Marxism. This is what he is advocating for. And I give him credit insofar as, to your point, he's being honest about what his positions are.

But it is insane to think that he is on the verge of becoming mayor of New York City. And Andrew Cuomo, you know, I've said this many times. Andrew Cuomo is not a solution here. Andrew Cuomo is the one who signed cashless bail into law. Andrew Cuomo is the one that made New York a sanctuary state. He's the one that banned natural gas and shut down Indian Point and signed the CLCPA, which has skyrocketed energy prices. So he's been a disaster in New York for years.

But this is the awful choice New Yorkers are making. And so then Zoran gets into a fight about whether or not somebody visited a mosque. I mean, look, I represent a very diverse district. I go into every community in my district. I've been to mass. I've been to synagogues. I've been to churches. I'm a practicing Catholic, Irish Italian descent. But that's not what this election is about. This election is about the policies and the policies that he is advocating that will destroy New York. And what folks across the country have to understand, I get the, you know, arguments against New York and the anger that people have towards New York from around the rest of the country. But the fact is what happens in New York does not stay in New York. And New York is the financial capital of the world. And despite all of these disastrous policies, it is still an economic engine for the country. And if you have an about socialist implementing these anti-capitalist policies, going after private

property ownership, going after the financial services industry, trying to raise taxes by $9 billion on an annual basis, talking about. freezing the rent, you know, legalizing prostitution, defunding the police. It creates a situation that will lead to a mass exodus out of New York. And while that may benefit other states in the immediate, it will create a financial crisis around the country. Well, I mean, it would be interesting to develop that. I'm not sure if we have the time, but like financial crisis around the country, I'm not sure about that, Congressman. because I feel like that it'll just move,

like the fluidity of the markets and the liquidity will just simply go to Miami and Boka as it's already done, right? It's like it's like fake, you know, it's like, you know, my office is in New York, but we're really in the brickel, obviously. And it's, if anybody who has open eyes can see what's happened with Ken Griffin

and every other hedge fund in the world and you just travel the eastern shoreline from Miami to Palm Beach and you can see where all the hedge funds and all the Wall Street bankers have moved. And now it's affecting the West Coast too, because now this is the number one inflows. J.P. Morgan tells me this is the number one inflows

of accounts from New York are actually here on the western side of Florida where we're broadcasting now. Like it's already happening. Now my contention here, my contention here is not like, I hate New York City. I actually like believe in my heart that you can't rebuild New York. There's not like another New York.

There's not another San Francisco or Chicago. Like these are places that should be preserved, actually because it's neat to go there it's nice to see there are landmarks and things that are historic i'm not like burn it all down right kind of guy but i'm you know i'm failing to see a path forward here like with the city if they're going to elect a guy like this you know well to your point i mean this has been happening uh in terms of the out migration bill de blasio uh really undid 20 years of strong leadership from Rudy Giuliani and Mike Bloomberg that really built New York into the economic engine that it is. And what you've seen, obviously, is that the hedge funds have

gone to Palm Beach. A lot of the financial services industry, especially the banks, have gone to Dallas. The fact that J.P. Morgan Chase now has more employees in Dallas than it does in New York speaks volumes to that, despite the fact that that. they're building this huge building in Midtown Manhattan as their headquarters. So it's a challenge. And the point that I make about this being a problem for the country, look, there's a reason that the U.S. has thrived. And this ties to foreign policy. Part of what has made the United States, the power that it is, is our financial markets and our capital markets. And the rest of the world relies on the U.S. capital markets. They rely on U.S. investment, not just from government foreign aid,

but in terms of U.S. investment on a corporate level and from our financial institutions. And having that centrally located in New York is vital. It is the financial capital of the world. And yes, it has always been dispersed across the country, Chicago, Sam Fran, L.A., Dallas. Obviously, it is growing in other parts of the country. But if you have a situation where New York collapses because of its disastrous leadership and because of a socialist engaged in Marxist theory, That does not help our country because people come to New York for a reason. A lot of it tied to the financial sector. And ultimately, if New York or our major cities start to collapse, that's a problem. And it's part of the reason why the president is taking such an aggressive posture when it comes to crime and tackling crime in these major cities. This is bigger than just those cities. It is bigger than just the people that live there. It has a direct impact on our economy. It has a direct impact on our financial institutions and markets. When you see people leaving Chicago, leaving New York, it's not because they hate New York or

Chicago. It is because of the cost of living and the quality of life. And that is what we're trying to fix. Well, Congressman, I'm telling you, man, I tell everyone, because we've got all these, we've got people that come up to us, whether we're in Portland or Seattle or San Francisco. There's no such thing as a permanent blue state. There's no such thing as a permanent red state. It's constant vigilance. There's no place that is beyond the pale and that can't be one back with the right policies and with the right atmosphere. And I'm just really happy that you've endorsed Donald Trump after he's done with his second term here to run for mayor of New York. I think that'll be great like Swamp. I think I'd be perfect for him.

It'd be quite the quite the comeback in New York, certainly. way to end it. Wouldn't that be the final note? Wouldn't it would be that would be I think he would enjoy that very much. Wouldn't he? That would that be vacation actually in comparison to what he's doing now. Trump versus Zoran, that would be quite the debate. You know, look, and just to your point, Benny, look, as much as, you know, people think New York's a blue state, folks have to remember, it was New York that delivered the House majority in 2022. We flipped five seats. We flipped five seats. including mine. I defeated the chair of the D-Triple-C. It was vital. My district is a two-to-one Democratic district. There's 80,000 more Democrats than Republicans. As I said, it's home to the

Clintons and George Soros. We won again last year. I was one of only three Republicans to win in a seat Kamala Harris won. That gave us the majority, 220 seats. If we lost those three seats, we'd be at 217. So these seats matter, even in states like New York, and folks have to to know that my seat is the difference between us having a majority post 2026 or not and we need everybody's help and they can go to luller for congress.com to support us or text mike to 8507 my my seat is in the crosshairs hakeem did not like being challenged last week they've already spent millions of dollars this year alone trying to defeat me and it's only going to get worse it's going to be about a 60 million dollar race so we we need all hands on deck and need

everybody's support. Ladies and gentlemen, Congressman Mike Lawler from New York, a man who's standing strong and strong like Iron Man and Hillary Clinton and George Soros's district. Just amazing, man. Like the Iron and the Brooklyn Bridge. They definitely never thought they'd have a Republican representative. It's great, man. It's wonderful to see.

Come back on the program anytime. Godspeed. God bless you. And, man, let's, yeah, let's, let's, let's start that Trump for mayor. I can't pay it. He'll get bored. You know we'll get bored. You know we'll get bored.

You know him, man. I know he knows you well. You know, he'll get bored. So let's start it now. Why not? That'll be quite, that'll be quite the coda on the career. Godspeed Congress. All right.

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and let you know, I thought, you know, everything that you did surrounding that, you know, Charlie was a friend and a good man. And it's amazing where we're at as a country, but I wanted to tell you, thank you, you know, for all that you did in relation to that. Yeah, I mean, the easiest way to really put it all together is that just God did, you know, like, because there's, there was a, there was a spiritual energy to all of it. And I can't quite explain it. I don't over process it. It still hasn't really hit me, Brett. And I hope it never does, actually. Yeah, yeah. But God has a purpose for all of our lives. And so we're just going to live out that purpose. We'll see what, you know, you just, you see what's next, right? So what's the purpose

of hoarding and holding classified documents for John Bolton? Like, why would he need so many classified diamonds? 18, 18 charge indictment, um, 18, 18 indictments, um, seems pretty serious, man. We read through the indictment earlier in the show. We'll pop it up on. on screen here. They're running out of space in the margins for the number of violations of U.S. code here. What do you make of this, Brad? Benny, I, you know, the deeper I dig into it, the more of a head scratcher it is. I think a lot of your, you know, your viewers, they need to understand, you know, I handled these cases both on the prosecution side and I've handled some on the defense side. And here's what happens when you are dealing with top secret. And I, I,

top secret SCI clearance. I did handled cases, you know, where we were handling classified, very sensitive and classified top secret information. All of this, all of this information is stored in a, a what's called a skiff. And a skiff is a secure compartmentalized room basically that's set aside for you to review and look at classified information. Now, when you're out in the field, like I was often, we would designate a particular room. It would have a safe. It would have locked cabinets. You would go into the room. You could not bring your cell phone into the room. You would then review all of the information. You could take notes, but those notes have to stay in the file with you. There was no exception to bringing files out. You also could not bring your

notes out. You could also, you were prohibited from taking notes later after you've reviewed the classified documents if those notes were going to contain classified information. So fast forward, here we have John Bolton, who's at the tip of the spear in terms of dealing with classified sensitive information, information that our enemies would want, information that foreign countries would trade in and utilize to try to attack, you know, both the, you know, the country as a whole and individuals inside the country. We have John Bolton, according to the indictment, not only does he remove classified information, so a criminal act, not only does he take notes and then remove his notes from that criminal act, then he also takes notes in retrospect in the form of a diary, and then worse,

Benny, and this is the one that really shocks me. He shares it with individuals, individuals that may not have any clearance family members or individuals close to his family that's the kind of stuff we never saw in any of the cases that i dealt with we had individuals that brought classified information out we had individuals that used it for their own personal gain but i have never seen a case in which you have someone at that high level willing to take out classified information put it on their personal server and then share it with others both their notes that are classified and and top secret and the information, underlying information itself. How do you even get this information out of the skiff?

I mean, like, it seems like some of it is in the form of the diary, but it also seems like he also had like hard copies according to the indictment. He had like a sort of a slew of items. Well, that's right. And Betty, in his position, he would have had an office. And in that office, you know, he would have had the ability to review classified information because he's steeped in it every day, that position every single day. So all of it, though, has to be locked up.

It can't be just left out for cleaning people to come in and look at. But does it give him opportunity? It gives him more opportunity than even, say, myself, when I was dealing with classified information, where you have a room, not your office, where you can review some of this stuff, and then you have to leave and somebody is observing what happens when you leave. Now, in his position, there would have been individuals that would have seen him leave. And did they observe him having documents? Did they observe it on his desk?

Did they observe individuals around him? Did they bring information? It's designated. It has a classification designation on the documents, as we've all seen. So to me, it's, I don't know how we got here. It's one thing to be the vice president, Joe Biden, or to be Donald Trump. and to have documents and you're capable of having them with you always, John Bolton was not the same.

He was not in a position like the president's position where he can designate something classified or not. Instead, he had to physically remove these from the skiff. He had to physically remove his notes from it. And then later, and not a lot of people are focusing on this, many, he was taking notes from what he recalled that was class. classified. And why is that significant? Well, because he then was, he was referring to these as his diary and he would share that with other people. And then fast forward when he reported that his

personal email was hacked by a foreign country. And he, he came forward and he said, hey, my personal email has been hacked. But what he did not reveal is that he had classified information, top secret classified information on that particular email server. it's amazing Dan Scavino always knows when was this put up what did John Bolton do with all his yellow notepad

that he always took copious notes on in the cavern room office situation room traveling abroad look at this in December 2nd of 2024 approximately 10 months ago yeah good question

it's like they they understood what was going on here I've been to the National Security Council I've been to their offices They wouldn't even let me in with my cell phone. I had to lock my cell phone away. I had to, you know, and I went in there. It was like everything was, everything was completely walled and locked off.

And you would have had to have run like an operation where you're, you're intending on taking something. Like you had to be very intentional about taking classified documents out of there. Unlike President Trump, and I'm very glad that you talked about the difference, but if you wouldn't mind, just very quickly nailing this down. Now, President Trump, as the chief executive vested with the full executive branch of power, holds his security clearance for life and is entitled to security briefings and secret service for life and has plenary power to classify, declassify, hold classified documents, like get classified briefings as a as a current sitting or former president. Is that correct, Brett? You're absolutely right. And even more so, these were documents that while he was president, he gathered and he collected and he wanted to maintain. And did he have the right to do so? Yes, in fact, he had the right to take a document that is classified and keep that document. And the fact that he keeps that document declassifies it in essence after he leaves office. So it's a very strong authority. that the president has. I mean, he single-handedly could look at a document.

He could indicate that he wants so-and-so to see it. And that person could not have a security clearance, but they could see the document. It's not a formal process of declassifying a document. What it is is the president gets to decide who's going to see what. I mean, he is the absolute authority in the executive branch. And so when they brought the case, we criticized it. And everybody said, well, you know, a grand jury returned the indictment on this case. So you need to respect it.

Well, where are all those loud voices now? Here you have a Maryland grand jury that returned an indictment. And what you see in this indictment, and as this is the one part of the indictment, that is not being highlighted. And that is the criminal law surrounding the mishandling and classified documents says it's one thing to possess it. And in fact, the penalty will be somewhat low. if the only violation is the possession, if it wasn't, you know, intended or if it was perhaps a mistake, it's still a criminal violation. It may not, it may not amount to much prison time. The, the aggravation of a sentence or the increase in a sentence in this type of a case

comes as a result of the intention to use the material. So here, there's a real risk that he may be facing some serious prison time because we now know that he was using it to showcase the issues he was on whether it was to make himself look important to later to capitalize on him you know financially through a book or whatever he was sending it to family and friends and and and showing that there was an aggravating circumstance surrounding his possession so not only does it show it's very intentional that he took it. It's showing that he had a purpose for taking it. Now, Trump, they could never find the purpose of him taking something, let alone that it was unlawful to begin with. And that's why the case fell apart. You had a judge, you know, as much

criticism as you want to make of, the judge having been appointed by President Trump, she was absolutely right to say, look, I want to see the underlying support. And I want to see that there is a legal basis for you to bring this case against the president of the United States. Here, we don't have any of that. We have an individual who was personally trying to capitalize on the information, whether it was to, you know, expand his ego and, and his importance or to gain financial, you know, benefit from it. But he had a clear purpose for taking out classified information and then disseminating that. What do you think will happen? How do you think those will play out? You know, you have a handicapping, Brett, and says you've done this.

entire life. So I think, um, I would, I would say it's, you know, there's a 95% conviction rate across the country in federal criminal cases. And that includes areas like. Unless Maureen Comey's charging the case, but yeah. Yeah, exactly. Um, I think, you know, a jury is going to be difficult to impanel, um, but it, but they'll get it done. Many have criticized this judge as being, you know, Obama appointee. The problem you have is this case is not one of those areas. Um, but it's, but they'll get it done. where there's a lot of subjectivity. The gray areas don't exist in this type of a case. It's either a possession. And when you see, when you see, you know, things like he made comments and some of the emails about his diaries and disseminating it, that this was to be kept, you know,

quiet. And you see some of that information. More of that's going to come out, which is going to show that he had absolute knowledge of what you can and cannot do with the classified documents. So I think a conviction will occur. The judge will, you know, for the first time, be able to really make an impact on the case when it comes to sentencing. I predict it will be a low sentence. I don't think, you know, with having no criminal history, I think they'll hang their hat on a very, you know, low sentence that probably is not consistent with several of the cases that, you know, I'm aware of where regular, you know, regular people are being charged with this, which, you know, most of them. do several years in federal prison when when they are accused and convicted of these crimes but i predict this will probably be a low sentence given the judge well you know what the process of the punishment and i'm glad that it's being exposed and i'm glad that all when we're being exposed from comie to letitia james to john bolton and i hear that these are just the appetizers so i guess we'll see uh final final final word brett uh and if you don't mind i'm just going to play

you, since we put up a Skavino tweet, we'll put this one up. He just posted this as you were talking. As you were giving me the last answer, Brett, Skavino just posted the yellow notepad FAAFO. So the floor is yours. Take us out, Brett. What should we make of this current DOJ, Bolton, Letitia James, and James Comey can come get it. Well, I said, you know, long ago, when they came after conservatives, when they came after Trump, I said, be careful how you use power. We have never seen in the history of the Department of Justice the kind of abuse we saw launched under the Democrats.

And I indicated that, you know, power is gonna shift and what is it gonna mean? It's one thing if you have clean hands, but we knew what happened with Comey, what he did to protect Hillary Clinton. We knew what they were doing in terms of trying to target a political opponent like they did. They went after the lawyers trying to represent

you know, the target of their, all of their animosity. And they had a scorched earth approach, and I warned that the tables will turn. The difference between now and then, though, is very much like what I've said before. This is, this is not revenge. It's a reckoning. This is one in which we know their hands weren't clean. We knew that they had committed crimes. And now there's individuals that are in office that are going to present that to the grand jury and let them decide whether or not a crime has occurred. And they're going to present it to a regular jury. And a conviction is going to happen. And everybody on the left is going to scream. They're going to scream that this is, you know,

using the justice system, all the things that we tried to, you know, make them aware of. Well, they've been the bully and they don't like it now that it's been turned on them and then the microscope has been turned on them. And the only way you effectively, you know, get rid of a bully is you punch them back hard right in the nose. And I think that's what's happening right now. And you know, it's it's not surprising to me that you have Letitia James that went after President Trump for the very crimes that she was actually committing. It's not surprising to me that you had Jack Smith and many others that were forcing, you know, at prosecution. Why? Because they were going to have to give up power if President Trump won. So now I will go toe to toe with anybody

that believes this is just revenge by the by the trump administration it's not these are these are day-in-day-out agents that are presenting these cases to a grand jury of citizens in some of the most liberal parts of this country and they're returning indictments so there's more i'm sure that will happen i hope they always stay grounded in good facts and the law is on their side and if we do that then i think the country starts to see what what the consequence of weaponizing our justice system is in this country. It's not revenge. It's a reckoning. You're exactly right, Brett. It's beautiful to see. Very biblical, by the way. It's founded in the Christian doctrine. And it is the role of the

government, actually, to execute justice against evil men. And so, Brett, Godspeed. Go follow Brett, obviously. 50,000 subscribers here on X. He's just one of the sharpest. and one of the smartest and always has that beautiful Western aesthetic that America needs more of. Please always keep the beard. Brett, never do the mustache like John Bolton. Never go, never go full mustache putty. I hear under the mustache was where they found most of the documents, but it might be just a rumor. There's still some they're pulling out of there. God, yeah, Godspeed, Brett. Have a great weekend. Thanks, Benny. Take care. John Bolton has pled not guilty.

A little breaking news here. Not guilty to all 18 counts. Oh boy. And violations of the Aspionage Act. Let's go ahead and watch. I think we have it queued up, yeah? All right, let's roll. Trump National Advisor, Security Advisor, John Bolton,

has just pleaded not guilty to all 18 counts in a classified document. an indictment. A federal grand jury indicted Bolton yesterday after an investigation into whether he improperly retained classified materials after his departure from the first Trump administration. We are all over the story. We will bring you updates as we get them. Stay frosty. Ladies and gentlemen, it has been a fascinating week. And it was, you know, again our honor to be at the white house for charlie kirk's uh a middle of freedom ceremony

his honor to uh be fighting with eric trump throughout his book wars uh we see we had some interesting opportunities in dc we took a few of them we did an interview with a democrat member of congress i think i think it went fine and i think that there's like more to potentially be built on there i don't want a world where we're at at each other's throats, one of a world where we can, like, agree at least that America's the greatest country in the world and fight for her. We were, we, everyone knows the legend of D.B. Cooper, but what if I told you there's an even better story out there? One with multiple aircraft hijackings, prison escapes, and so

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the most important area that Christian Conservatives should be focused on right now. Parenthood and family creation, period. That's it. That's our future. Parenthood and family creation. You want to keep that country red? You need to make babies. You need to have children.

You need to protect the family. That's it. If you lose the numbers game, it's over. You're cooked. And that doesn't necessarily for America. That's for your, you're obviously seeing that in Europe. You're seeing that happening in Christians in Africa, the Middle East, like it gets a numbers game. so you got you have to incentivize and you have to preach family creation uh john says

will you put charlie's pick up in the background of your studio please absolutely sure why not of course there's a shelf right there client i want to uh charlie framed charlie pick uh up there uh by monday's show nice cool we'll be traveling on tuesday by the way juice says could you interview the CNN run the numbers guy yeah i mean i guess i don't know if they let him on the show i'm happy to try you and harrietin okay maybe We'll ask him if he thinks that John Bolton kept the classified documents in his mustache. Will we find wisdom about that? We'll find wisdom in the scriptures, ladies and gentlemen.

For Psalms 82, Psalms, great, great richness of wisdom found in the Psalms. Let's jump in today. Defend the weak and the fatherless uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. Ensure, ladies and gentlemen, that those who are suffering in America, that they know that they're country is constituted by those who believe in America first. And there are a lot of people who are struggling in this country. They can't afford gas. They can't afford groceries. They can't afford their own health care. They can't afford homes. And we are fighting for them. And it is the greatest insult to reach into the limited capacity for this country to assist and to give those resources

to people who are not Americans. People that don't pay into systems here that didn't grow up here, didn't fight for this country. We've left behind the forgotten man and woman of this country, and we're not going to do that anymore. As President Trump says, the forgotten man and woman is forgotten no longer. America first. Our roads, our infrastructure, our families, first. My American children, first. That's what a nation is there for. That's what a nation is there to do, actually. That's why, of course, this is such an important question. It is also why it's totally aligned, in fact with this first defend the weak and the fatherless uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed we are losing the middle class in this country we must uphold our values that allowed

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