The Benny Show - FBI Director Kash Makes Shock Announcement On January 6th Pipe Bomber: 'Breakthrough, Stay Tuned...' with Guests Corey Lewandowski, Don Brown and Pastor Joe Harris join the show

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Kash Patel makes announcement on the January 6TH Pipe Bomber, Trump declares Biden’s turkey pardons “invalid” in hysterical thanksgiving ceremony, Corey Lewandowski, Don Brown and Pastor Joe Har...ris join the show Check out our partners: CHEF IQ: Go To: http://www.CHEFiQ.com and use promo code BENNY for 30% off Christian Care: https://www.medishare.com/benny Hallow: Get 3 months free with a subscription at https://hallow.com/benny Patriot Mobile: Go to https://www.PatriotMobile.com/Benny and get A FREE MONTH Advantage Gold: Get your FREE wealth protection kit https://www.abjv1trk.com/F6XL22/4MQCFX/?sub1=Youtube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today is November 26th, 2025, the day before Thanksgiving. Ladies and gentlemen, we are excited about it. We'll do a little Thanksgiving history. Today on the program, we're also hopefully going to be making history very soon by having an announcement on the January 6th, pipe bomber.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Something that makes us feel like, makes us feel like Lucy with the football, right? Isn't that the classic Charlie Brown Thanksgiving episode, Charlie Brown running through the leaves, trying to kick the football? This has been us with the pipe bomber story. We're like a dog with a bump. We have asked every person, every powerful person we can get a hold of about this.
Starting point is 00:00:48 We have been doggedly going after this story, covering the reporting from the blaze. And then there's updates on that as well this morning from the FBI updates directly. from Cashpel, first time we've heard from Cash Patel directly about the pipe bomber. The answer is pretty remarkable, actually. So hopefully that will be a holiday miracle because Libs, I'll join you on this one. That's the J6 terrorist I want to see behind bars.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Isn't that wonderful? Isn't it a time for us to come together during the holiday season? Isn't this a time for us to all admit together that that's what we want? Okay, I'll join you on this one case. Yes, let's find this one terrorist and put this. them in jail. And let's find, let's unmas them and find out exactly what the hell was going on here. Okay. Big news for that on this morning. Trump declares Biden's turkey pardons invalid. All right. Cory Lewandowski will join the show. Pastor Joe Harris will join the show.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And potentially we're working on a Navy JAG officer and federal prosecutor to talk about The seditious six, as they are called, we'll see. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Benny Johnson, and this is The Benny Show. Okay, before we get to the, like, single funniest clip from President Trump, maybe in the history of the White House, and that's saying a lot, we got to talk about how we are going to the White House. We are going to the White House this holiday season.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I'm not trying to brag. What I'm trying to say here is this. I am going to be putting our Christmas ornaments on the way. I've been given a green light to put our Christmas ornaments on the White House, Christmas tree. Okay? If you want your tree to match the beautiful Christmas ornaments of the white, I'm going to give this to Trump, I'm going to give Trump, this and this, the dump truck,
Starting point is 00:02:53 and the McDonald's. I'm going to hand it to him. And I'm going to give J.D. one of these. I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this. I don't know. I don't know. I know there's going to be... All I can tell you is that there's going to be an option to do it. I'm going to give them this.
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Starting point is 00:04:12 President Trump, Klein, we never looped the song. Never loop the song. We never looped the song. No, no, no, no. But you got cut off. You're my DJ, bro. You're my DJ, bro. You got to cut the song off. That's like, Benny, shut up. That's like, you got to cut it off. So, like, I know how to shut up. Otherwise, I'll just do that all show. I would actually love to have that all show long.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Do we have Ryan in the, do we have Ryan inside of the warehouse, Klein? Do we have that clip? Let's make sure that's loaded up every single day. I want to, I want to be able to play and toss that every single day. Yeah. Yeah. Because I, like, we say that we make them here in America. A lot of people say that. A lot of people are lying. A lot of people are frauds. We actually literally do. And the warehouse is stocked and packed and ready to ship every single day. And it's something that we're really proud of, honestly.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Klein, you went there. You went there and filmed like a whole thing. I have my watch. Yeah, okay. Well, just make sure that it's loaded at every single show, please. Yeah, yeah. In fact, no, no. I'm going to wait.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm going to wait until it's loaded. I'm going to wait. Okay. Let's let's hold on. I'm going to wait because it's our last show before the holiday season. I want to play it for you because it's important and I love it. And it's something that is bringing me Christmas cheer. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Brian with direct merch, we just wanted to give you guys a quick behind the scenes view of how we manufacture the one for the bini shop. So we use high quality UV printing technology. So the print will never peel, never become damaged. So last, you know, for years ago. Yes. You know, hang nicely on your.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Christmas tree. First ornament is the freedom flag ornament to commemorate a Patriot Charlie Kirk on the back put a Bible verse Matthew 510. This one's truly art. Beautiful. Look at him. Go with Benny. He could have outsource a lot of this kind of stuff. Instead, he chose to utilize a small business like ours. Yes. Manufacture products right here in America. Another favorite is the JD Vance say thank you. mean. So we resource everything 100% from U.S. manufacturers. We're doing everything 100% in house and, you know, look at that. Yes. All right. Thank you. Thank you, everyone, for your patience on this. And thank you, Klein. Klein went to the factory and filmed all that. And it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:06:38 All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's hop over to the funniest clip from Donald Trump in history from the White House. Turkey jokes. President Trump makes joke about Biden's invalid turkey pardons at the White House. I have determined last year's turkey pardons totally invalid their pardons about every person. Before going any further, I want to make an important announcement because you remember last year after a thorough and very rigorous investment. by Pam Bondi and all of the people at Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA, the White House counsel's office,
Starting point is 00:07:25 and the Department of Everything. We have a Department of Everything. You know what that is? I think that's called the White House. Into a terrible situation caused by a man named Sleepy Joe Biden. He used an auto pen last year for the Turkey's pardon. pardon. So I have the official duty to determine, and I have determined that last year's turkey pardons are totally invalid, as are the pardons of about every other person that was
Starting point is 00:07:56 pardoned other than where's Hunter? No, Hunter's was good. That was the one pardoned, Pam, that was good, right? The rest of them are all invalid. I don't know what the hell you're going to do about that, but that's now we're going to take a little of the joking. That is a mess. But there, hereby null and void, the turkeys known as peach and blossom last year, have been located, and they were on their way to be processed. In other words, to be killed. But I have stopped that journey, and I am officially pardoning them, and they will not be served for Thanksgiving dinner. We saved them in the nick of time. This one has plenty of time, but they were saved in the nick of time.
Starting point is 00:08:41 All right. That's hilarious. And does that man look bothered to you? This was from yesterday, the turkey pardoning at the White House. President Trump cracking up the audience, saying that the pardons are invalid, and then naming the turkeys Chuck and Nancy. Okay, one more clip. Here we go. The turkeys being pardoned today go by the names of gobble and waddle.
Starting point is 00:09:02 When I first saw their pictures, I thought we should send them, well, I was going to, I shouldn't say this. I was going to call him Chuck and Nancy. But then I realized I wouldn't be pardoning them. I would never pardon those two people. I wouldn't pardon them. I wouldn't care what Melania told me. Darling, I think it would be a nice thing to do.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I won't do it, darling. All right. I, you know, like, seriously, like, check out the vibes from the White House. Check in. Do a vibe check. I understand that there is good energy in this movement. We're going to keep that energy moving forward through the holiday season and into 2026. It's time.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It is certainly a time to fight. It's a time to be a lot smarter in the way that we govern, right? I'm specifically looking at Congress. Congress has been nightmarish in their inability to get anything done. We're seeing now rumors that there could be more defections, more early, retirements that Republicans might actually lose the gavel in the house. You might have a split house. I mean, this is, I mean, we're going to do a whole, a whole series of shows next week on exactly where that is and start hammering, uh, the house over what the hell's been going on there.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You know, you've had the gavel for years now, but you had the gavel for a full year. Like, what, what's going on? Like, we're going to hunt down exactly what happened to that majority. Like, what the hell is that? But anyway, we're going to. to leave those sort of heavier topics off the plate right before Thanksgiving. Final funny Donald Trump moment from the turkey partying yesterday. Are you ready? Gobble, I just want to tell you this very important. You are hereby unconditionally pardoned. That's good. Beautiful. Well, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Who'd want to harm this beautiful girl? That's good, that's good. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you very much, everybody. You just look at them and you laugh. It's just naturally funny. It's just naturally funny.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It's the day, it's the show before Thanksgiving. So why not? Why not? Why not? Do extended clips of President Trump. Saying, you're beautiful, you're pardoned, you're beautiful. We love you. Who would want to kill this bird?
Starting point is 00:11:59 If it was named Chuck and Nancy would kill it. Partons are invalid for the last turkeys. Kill them all. Are you meeting, Trump? I hope you will. Our turkey is already based, basted. What is the, what is the post tense, past tense of base, but based based. Based it based. We're just going to say base. My turkey is based. Okay. Our turkey is based. We're cooking it. And how are we going to cook it exactly? I'm like so thrilled to be partnering with Chef IQ. This is a wireless cooking thermometer that we use in our house. We eat very healthy. And my home, that means a lot. of like roasted chickens and so on. I do, I do love grilling like any American man. However, you know that these kind of things, especially if you're cooking a cut of meat
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Starting point is 00:14:32 Pipe bomber. How many times have we started the show. It's not really starting the show. We just been sort of like, sort of chatting. Staten with the chat, which by the way, the chat has been asking for Christmas ornaments. So we are loading up all of the ornaments into the chat. So if you're using the chat, YouTube allows, and as far as I know, YouTube is the only platform that allows us to do custom chat emojis. And so we are loading the custom emojis into the chat. We are loading custom emojis into the chat. loading the Christmas ornaments designs into the chat.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So like nuke some of the old, you know, we've had some old stuff in there, baron Trump, whatever, Melania's inauguration outfit, nuke some of the old ones, and then load up the Christmas ornaments into the chat and we'll be able to flood the chat with Christmas ornaments. Freak and awesome. Okay. Here we go. First, let's begin. There are two major things on the pipe bomber that broke yesterday.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And that, you know, we were sort of chatting about what to lead the show with. And there's not a lot out there right now. Everyone sort of goes into hibernation before the holidays. And but there were two major developments. And since this is something that our, that our show has pretty much been the center of. And what do I mean by that? Am I the expert on this? No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Do I have all the answers? No, I don't. But hot damn has Cash Patel. Well, years ago, Alex, you have that old Cash Patel clip from our show. I'm sure it'll be easy to get if it's not already in the script. That old Cash Patel clip, man, from our show, it goes viral every two weeks in this time period. We have, we, when it, like, when we were risking our careers and our channel by asking these questions, we were still asking these questions. I'm not going to black pill on this.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I don't feel betrayed. I just want the answers, okay? And I'm aware that these are complicated topics. We saw the Blazes reporting. We covered the Blazes reporting. There are updates on the Blazers reporting. Ladies and gentlemen, Catch Patel, though, on our show.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Goodness gracious, what was it? 2020? 2022. Again, we were asking these questions when Democrats controlled the House Senate, White House, and they were complete tyrants. And they would come to destroy and to cancel shows that would ask even like cursory questions about January 6th. So we sort of started this ball rolling by asking the future FBI director back when he was just like a homie about the J6 pipe bomber. Slow that clip up as fast as possible. I saw it right there in the chat. You just, you had it. Yeah. Didn't we?
Starting point is 00:17:34 No. Okay. Was that the Epstein one? Okay. Got it. Okay. Good. Quite a few, quite a few old cash per cell clips.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Anyway, that's the purpose of the show. The purpose of the show is obviously to have people on the record to ask powerful people about these major issues. And what Cash told us, was the way that you figure out the pipe bomber problem in identity at the FBI is you just go in and release all the files. And we agree with that.
Starting point is 00:18:11 That's what we want. And that's also what will be required in order to reestablish trust with the American people, which has been utterly decimated. And it sounds like for the first, time, there is a breakthrough in this case. This case is, of course, critically important and critically instrumental in the understanding of what January 6th was because nothing makes sense. Nothing makes sense in this pipe bomber story, just off the top of the head. Who was the
Starting point is 00:19:01 pipe bomber on the phone with? Why is the FBI still hiding so much footage of the pipe bomber? Why was that footage degraded? This is obviously degraded. Why were the pipe bombs so perfectly identical to the training devices that the FBI uses for pipe bombs. Why has no DNA evidence ever been uncovered by the pipe bomber? DNA evidence is on everything. DNA evidence is on obviously something
Starting point is 00:19:35 as complex as a pipe bomb that you put together. Why has there been no search history or identity of anyone? Put forward for this investigation. Why were their kitchen timers on this pipe bomb? Those kitchen timers were 60-minute timers. How could a pipe bomb with a 60-minute timer be set to go off the next day at noon? 18 hours later, that doesn't make, that don't make no sense.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Why were there so many mysteries around the people who discovered the pipe bombs? A lady doing her laundry. It's a little weird. The Secret Service, who discovered the pipe bomb at the DNC, that were guarding Kamala Harris, that drove Kamala Harris right by the pipe bomb. And then when they heard that there was a pipe bomb, they sat there and finished their wawah hoagies in their car. They finished their lunches. Then they got out nonchalantly. Let little kids walk by the pipe, what a guy walking his dog walk by the, let trains run, let traffic go.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like there was no urgency at all. Show me that kitchen timer. Put it on screen. Show me that kitchen timer. What the hell is this? How about the people who found these pipe bombs being mysteriously connected to Intel agencies? None of it makes any sense. All of it stinks to high heaven. No one has actually done any real investigative work on this. They've burned the files. They've done their level-headed best. And look, good. I love what you're doing there, Klein. Okay. See? Wow, look. We're doing better investigations than the FBI. See, wow, look, it's a 60-minute timer.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Well, so why did the pipe bombs go off in 60 minutes when they were placed at midnight? They were allegedly placed there at the night before. So why didn't they go off at one in the morning? They're not particularly sophisticated. Go back. Show me. Look at that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:46 60-minute timer. So stupid. it's also dumb they were clearly placed there that afternoon i clearly put there as like a prop probably found probably placed there by the same people who found them and is also part of like a massive op it's like and also like look i'm look at how hard they were trying to hide them look at that klein you know if you really if you want to hide or you really want to like do some damage you want to like make sure you hide the bomb and then it explodes and it's terrible and And it really, like, you're trying to inflict really horrible damage.
Starting point is 00:22:22 It's awful. Make sure you just place it in the middle of the sidewalk. That's how you do it. Make sure you put it right on a bench. There's a real sophisticated operation here. And here's the final thing I'll say. As I've, like, thought about this. If we've covered this for so long, Alex, how long have we been talking about this?
Starting point is 00:22:41 For so long, like one of our first shows when we started the show was on the pipe bomber. I'd be getting so exhausted with it. But here's the deal. So the all idea here was that this is a MAGA bomber. You know, MAGA's terrorists. They're terrorists. The MAGA bomber, you know, ignore the fact that no one in MAGA has ever been violent, ever. It's not a violent movement.
Starting point is 00:23:02 America First is a movement of love for our nation and the people in it, not hatred. We want to deport all the criminal aliens, but nonetheless, we don't want to harm anyone. We don't want to hurt anyone. We don't want to take anyone's rights. We certainly don't want to bomb anything. or anybody that is these are actions exclusively of the left so run that through the brainstem will you so the maga bomber is so apparently this maga pipe bomber that's a evil donald trump supporter is placing bombs in the parade path of the stop the steel movement go with me here
Starting point is 00:23:49 So the bomber was trying to bomb MAGA? Stop yelling. But you realize how insane this all is? You don't know how dumb you have to be to even like remotely bite on the official story? That this is some deranged Trump supporter who wanted to bomb the government. You know, they're placing the bombs to go off when the MAGA march was going to be marching right through that area. So they're bombing their own march? That don't make no.
Starting point is 00:24:19 sense. It doesn't seem really smart. No, it's not smart. It's incredibly stupid and insulting. And I'm so sick of having to cover the story. I want this bomber found. And I unite. I link arms with my liberal friends in the holiday spirit and the Christmas spirit. And I will say, brethren, unite with me. Let us find this single January 6 terrorist together. Probably 99% of the country sees this story and goes, okay, find the terrorists. Either because they think
Starting point is 00:24:53 it's some insane magabombers, they're like blue and on, their brain's been melted by MSNBC. I don't care, cool. Or because they're an independent, they're like placing bombs as bad. It is. Or they're like me,
Starting point is 00:25:07 and they know that this is a fed up. And by finding the actual pipe bomber, you'll be able to reveal a much deeper and darker conspiracy, either by a splinter cell, something that was or wasn't authorized. I have no idea. I don't know. But you'll be able to reveal that everything that happened on January 6th wasn't up by the federal government in order to entrap Trump supporters and to put Donald Trump in prison to prevent him from ever running for president again because of something
Starting point is 00:25:36 called the Insurrection Act. That's what they were trying to do. So they were trying to do it for four years, that would, that old civil war relic of a law would have prevented Donald Trump from running for president. It would have disqualified him from running for president. Anyway, what did ALX find it? All right. Okay. So we got, I don't think we have time for the old cash clip. I'm sorry, boys, just spring that one on you. It's the last one I will. Let's do the new one. okay the new the new pipe bomber clip from cash yesterday katherine herridge does an interview and asks cash patel about the pipe pump and he says well hold up we've had massive breakthroughs
Starting point is 00:26:32 in the last couple days and you are absolutely going to be hearing from us on this issue And we are wrapping it up. Now, this is the most definitive thing that we've heard from Cash. Listen to him, say it. I have a takeaway from this. Here we go. In a recent cable news interview with Fox,
Starting point is 00:26:49 you said to stay tuned about the January 6th, pipe bomber case. Are there new developments we can discuss? There are new developments. Can we discuss them? Not at this time. But I think you'll be hearing from us soon on it. Are you closer to making an arrest?
Starting point is 00:27:09 And when we took over the FBI, we knew there was a renewed interest in a lot of cases of great public importance. And of course, this one where it was alleged that someone went to the United States Capitol grounds and planted a bomb to possibly blow up, then Vice President Kamala Harris or other Republicans and other Democrats on Capitol Hill, was one we felt important enough to redouble our investigative tactics. And that's what we've done. and like we did in the Comey case when we made presentations in court when the American public finds out the presentations we will be making
Starting point is 00:27:46 if we get to a judicial decision then they will see how much was missed in this case and what we have done and I hope the American public will realize our commitment to putting out as much information as we can when we can on cases of great public importance
Starting point is 00:28:04 it's been a lot of media reporting about the pipe bomb case recently, have there been any significant breakthroughs for the FBI in recent days? Yes. Of course, I'd like to have a little bit more, but can you share any more? Do you expect that there will be a charge before the end of the year? My job is to protect the integrity of the investigation, and I know that causes a lot of backlash from some sectors of the online community.
Starting point is 00:28:37 but I'd rather speak through our casework in public and be able to assure the American public that we are delivering actual accountability than just sit here and tell you, I think we're going to get them. Has there been breakthroughs in the last few days? And cash goes, yes. Do you have a suspect?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Cash goes, watch our. casework will you be making an announcement to the american people cash goes yes these are the kind of like listen we know cash it's been he's been on the show i don't personally not like i travel up to gc all the time and meet with the fbi i haven't seen them since he actually became fbi director but like it's not dumb you don't make statements like you can't make statements like this if you then and then go silent for the next four years and bring nothing to the table. I mean, I guess you can. It would be incredibly ill-advised. So stay tuned. Yes, we have had breakthroughs. Yes, we will be making a large announcement to the American people. Yes, we have
Starting point is 00:29:59 suspects. And ladies and gentlemen, report that came out a couple of weeks ago. I think it approximately two weeks ago on who the pipe bomber was from the blaze they had allegedly identified a person of interest on this pipe bombing security footage that they were using allegedly there are 39,000 hours of security footage of the I'm sorry 39,000 different security camera footage is of the pipe bomber. We've only seen a scintilla of that. That I do not understand why. That I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:30:43 But the blaze got a hold of previously unseen footage, undoctored footage, they said, and then they alleged that they had found the identity of the actual pipe bomber, and that it was a Capitol Hill police officer. Well, the FBI is out with an official comment on that and a story
Starting point is 00:31:12 here in CBS News sort of breaks it all down. How an innocent woman's name was tied to January 6 pipe bombs. Let's just go ahead and read this. A federal security officer linked to a thwarted January 6 pipe bomb attack cleared her name
Starting point is 00:31:30 by providing an alibi video of her playing with her puppies at the time the devices were placed. sources sold CBS News. The FBI has now ruled out, ruled her out as a suspect in the 2021 plot, according to three sources, but only after her name circulated on social media platforms, the conservative news site. How an innocent woman's name came in to be publicly linked to the unexploded pipe bombs is a question that raised concern among many senior officials in the Trump administration. CBS News is not naming the security officer or her workplace. The federal agency
Starting point is 00:32:09 that she protects declined to comment. Multiple sources said the unit overseen by director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, drafted a memo identifying the woman and describing allegations that she had placed explosive advice outside of Democrat and Republican national offices. The memo was written after ODNI was made aware of the allegations from an outside source, the ODNI spokesperson said. That's interesting. ODI and I officials said, said that the agency received a tip from a person affiliated with media organization and potential criminal wrongdoing of an individual believed to be working with an intelligence agency set about documenting in the memo. This, of course, tracks, obviously, with the Blaze
Starting point is 00:32:48 reporting. A copy of the unfinished memo was given to senior staff security officer's workplace. It also circulated among a few Trump administration officials building expectations. The nearly five-year-old case may be solved. But the memo caught the officials at the FBI Justice Department of White House off guard. ODI and I oversees the nation's foreign intelligence gathering limited domestic investigative authorities. The FBI is leading the pipe bomb investigation. Short time after the unfinished memo began to circulate the conservative news outlet, The Blaze published similar details to the draft.
Starting point is 00:33:21 So this is very interesting. This I did not know that the office of the Director of National Intelligence was planning on releasing a memo. on this. Fascinating. The Blaze News article used gate analysis software in order to come to their conclusions and said that it had been confirmed by several sources. Several sources told CBS News that the classified draft memo, which was on the ODNI letterhead, was written by Paul McNamara, who was in charge of Gabbard's director's initiative group, which is tasked with providing transparency and accountability. We're huge fans of Tulsi Gabbard. We hope that she's involved
Starting point is 00:34:07 in this, obviously. Spokesperson Olivia Coleman says ODI and I followed his obligation to report information received concerning alleged activities and members of the intelligence community and persons employment agency. A whistleblower came forward with the allegation. Odie and I documented the accusations and lawfully reporting it, reported it. Okay. The bomb planting incidents is one of the lingering mysteries surrounding the events on the Capitol, January 6th, nearly five years since the pipe bombs were placed. No suspect has been arrested or identified in an absolute humiliation to federal law enforcement. The FBI said the bombs were viable, but they did not detonate. Well, where are the bombs today?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Have we ever scraped them for any DNA evidence? Kind of hard to make a pipe bomb without like DNA, not like I've ever tried, but like you have to assume that if you're going to make a pipe bomb, You're going to leave some DNA evidence on it. CBS News was not shown the memo, but Sources says McNamara had accessed confidential files to obtain details about the woman in the draft memo, including her place of work. Gabbard, top Odi and I official,
Starting point is 00:35:14 has since distanced herself from the memo, telling senior officials the information about the woman spread without her knowledge while Gabbard was traveling abroad. ODI and I officials said that the draft memo hadn't been reviewed or proved by agency leadership. Sources said that the situation and others were viewed internally by some seniors administration officials that interfering with areas beyond their purview, Axios reported in September
Starting point is 00:35:36 the Justice Department officials believed OD&I had hindered their case against former CIA director John Brennan. Goodness. New York Times in October reported that OD and I had accessed FBI investigative files related to Charlie Kirk's assassination and search for evidence of conspiracies and potentially undermine the government's case against the alleged assassin. Goodness gracious. So what you're seeing here is just the age old federal bureaucracies in intelligence agencies fighting against each other. This has been going on for a very long time. It continues to this day. Federal security officers cooperated with the FBI sources close to the matter said her lawyer. Her lawyer said publicly that she's done nothing wrong, but the woman and her lawyer declined to comment.
Starting point is 00:36:19 So that is the update, ladies and gentlemen, on the reporting. So what do we do in this situation like this? it's exactly what I'm going to do with Charlie Kirk obviously like a far more personal but of extreme importance just like this case I am going to take a very deep breath and I'm going to let the filings speak for themselves I'm going to be an agitator on the outside and this audience will be an agitator on the outside
Starting point is 00:36:56 for total and complete transparency. I am going to do my level-headed best to not engage in unfounded theories. I'm not even going to call them conspiracy theories because everything's just a theory until we see the actual proof. What was released in the JFK files was proof that the CIA was involved in JFK's assassination.
Starting point is 00:37:18 We have that for the first time in 70 years. That was released. That was given to us. We now have proof of it. It's good. A lot of people have asked a lot of questions. A lot of people have done. great reporting. It's nice to just have the documents, just show people. Because these things
Starting point is 00:37:32 have such recency to them, I'm going to try and pray for the patience of Job while publicly airing my frustration, as I have done on Pierce Morgan show, on a podcast with Tommy Lerrin, on podcasts across the industry and space. I've lost count. Megan Kelly show yesterday, saying that I am not satisfied with the Charlie Kirk investigation. No, I'm not. And I've been public about that. That's me efforting from the outside for absolute and total, pure and complete transparency of every facet of that murder. And we need the exact same thing on January 6th, pipe bomber. Same thing with Epstein. That is the way to reestablish trust. I will say this before we play the cash tell clip, and I know we're jumping over to
Starting point is 00:38:24 to Corey Lewandowski here in just one second. Who's going to know a lot about all of this. But Charlie Kirk was murdered in cold blood on a live stream. The judge in that case is trying to ban live cameras from the court so that we can't watch the trial. He's already saying that Tyler Robinson can appear in plain clothes, doesn't have to be in handcuffs. You're not allowed to film Tyler Robinson. You're allowed out of the film, the accused face of the accused, his reactions, his actions. I mean, at this point, we won't be able to see anything from the trial.
Starting point is 00:39:12 The whole thing will happen in secret. That is a unspeakable evil that is totally and completely unacceptable, unacceptable, indefensible. Charlie was killed on a live stream. We deserve to see his trial live. Every bit of evidence, every bit of DNA, every bit of text messages,
Starting point is 00:39:35 backgrounders, emails, the transgender boyfriend, where the hell is he? Why has he disappeared? Better be in witness protection and go up there on the stand and say like a canary and say everything.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Hopefully get charged. But what do I know? And if there was a larger plot or a larger conspiracy, then we need to know about it. I'm trying my level-headed best to simply stay in that lane. Let the filing speak for themselves, be patient, and let the cases develop. Cash Patel was asked yesterday directly about this. Was there foreign involvement in Charlie's killing? Did a nation state do this?
Starting point is 00:40:17 These are some of the earlier rumors that popped up from, well-connected sources about Charlie's killing. And Cash had an answer, and here it is. On the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation, you testified recently that more than 20 people were on the Discord chat related to the suspect, Tyler Robinson. Have you spoken to those people? Is it now a larger universe of 20 people?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Well, so with the Charlie case, it's a matter that is being led by the state authorities in Utah because it is a homicide investigation that is being prosecuted by the state. So us as the FBI are partners and part of that prosecution team were not the lead and it's very much ongoing. So there is a lot of legal process being doled out and we are committed to issuing every piece of legal process and search route that we can to talk to absolutely everyone and anyone who had anything to do with the assassination of my friend. And we're going to continue to do that and also honor the prosecutor's wishes and how we do that and what we release
Starting point is 00:41:28 publicly. Respecting that it is an ongoing investigation, is there any evidence of foreign involvement? Is there any evidence that Tyler Robinson had helped? Again, that will be spoken through by the prosecutors. If I, as the FBI director, commented on that right now in any way, shape, or form, that would hurt their case. And the worst thing that can happen is the individual who's charged and has his day in court down the road is if we, the FBI, or another law enforcement agency improperly commented on evidence and gave the defense an unfair advantage during the trial. Cash gave the exact same answer about Epstein. Maybe we'll be able to play you that clip later in the show. For now, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to hop over to our guests in just one
Starting point is 00:42:15 minute, I, you know, I got like, Cori Lewandowski is a law enforcement professional. So I'm going to ask him about this. But there's somebody who I really trust, who is somebody who I would trust with my life, frankly. And for good reason, in the federal government and federal law enforcement. And I asked them about this answer. And they said, listen, this is why you don't have all the Epstein documents. This is why you don't have all the Charlie Kirk documents and evidence. There are ongoing trials. There are ongoing trials right now that involve Jeffrey Epstein, his estate, Jeline Maxwell, her probation, her whatever, you know, she's in prison. And all of this evidence gets put under lock by these judges because it's currently in use in a trial. And it is
Starting point is 00:43:05 to be presented to the jury in those trials in a way that the prosecution and the defense wish to present it, not in the media. When you present something in the media, you can make it inadmissible, you can taint the jury, you can lose a case based on doing that. And so that was what was explained to me about not only Epstein evidence, but also the Charlie Kirk evidence. I guess it stands to reason. It's very frustrating.
Starting point is 00:43:31 It makes me pissed off. But it stands to reason. I can accept it. I can't accept it in the case of Thomas Crooks. I mean, what the hell? I can't accept it in the case of Thomas Crooks. because there is no trial. Thomas Crooks is dead.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And we're finding out a bunch of, like, brand new evidence about Thomas Crooks, all this background on them. So that I do not, that I will not permit. And that I will not, like, allow because that I don't get. Anyway, we're doing our, we're doing our level head at best, ladies and gentlemen, to keep our head. Make sure that you keep your head.
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Starting point is 00:45:05 Text the word Benny to 70246. Text the word Benny to 70246, and you'll get the link. Message and data rates do apply. Corey Lewandowski, joining the show live right now. Corey, welcome back to the program. Looks like you are built for performance here. Good, a Mercedes AMG shirt there, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:30 The F-1 race, Benny. I was at the F-1 race this weekend in Vegas. It was amazing. What's up, man? That's awesome. Okay, so, yeah, all right. You were in Vegas. Vegas was the location of a very strange and unexplained shooting that happened in Trump's first term.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And now there's a strange and unexplained shooting that happened President Trump in 2024 with Thomas Crooks. Now, I know that DHS has some major involvement in that. Obviously, DHS is over Secret Service and is over Homeland Security, investigations, and so on. There were a lot of people who were commenting based on Tucker's reporting on Thomas Crooks and some of his messages online, that maybe the federal government is withholding information from us on Thomas Crooks, who he was, who he was communicating with, and so on. You know, since that's, since there's no trial going on and he's dead, that I, it begs the question, why haven't we got all the information on Thomas Cruss? Like, just everything, even if it is like his creepy porn habits or
Starting point is 00:46:32 the fact that he, you know, was into furry stuff or used pronouns, like, why, why not get that from the federal government, you know, instead of, you know, people leaking to independent sources. Well, Benny, let me say, I have had the chance not to review the documents directly, but I have spoken to director Sean Curran at the Secret Service, who turned over all of the information and the investigation to the FBI. And I've spoken to Cash Patel about this as well, because I think the American people deserve transparency, whether it's the pipe bomber that you talked about, who I guess, you know, is busy with their dogs. And so, you know, now the video of the dog has exonerated them or this instance, look, the American people deserve the opportunity
Starting point is 00:47:12 to know what's going on, particularly when there's a potential assassination attempt, either against the President of the United States or an actual assassination attempt against our friend Charlie Kirk and a successful one. So what we deserve is the right to know the truth. I believe that there are continuing investigations as it relates to Charlie's individual. That is an ongoing investigation. Cash has said that now being led by the state of Utah. As it relates specific, to the attempt of assassination on Butler, Pennsylvania. I believe the president has been briefed fully by the FBI, by the Secret Service. He has agreed that the information they have provided him has been full and total and transparent,
Starting point is 00:47:50 and he is very satisfied with the conclusion of this investigation, which is there was one individual involved. There was no outside entity involved, no outside authorization, no outside money, no outside world government involved. And so the president believes that. and if he believes it, it is good enough for me. Yep. So, I mean, totally.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And I mean, you know, I'm not necessarily alleging that, you know, what I, I guess what I'm getting at is like, here's a great photo. This is Thomas Crooks, minutes before he shoots my president in the head, kills members of our community, the America First MAGA movement. Here he is on the phone. I mean, he's on the phone with someone or he's looking at something. And it seems like in order to get all of the information out to the American people, it good to like what the hell was he searching for here you know why did he use they them pronouns
Starting point is 00:48:41 who was he in communication with um you know where did he learn how to make these bombs and how to you know how to shoot he was training at a rifle range that was also being used by homeland security police right for training like was there ever any you know crossover there right like was was there ever any you know was there did he get any ideas um you know that that's the kind of stuff like a like a drug test for instance like was he on anything was he on any medications um was he on any type of something that would fry his brain you know if he's using day them pronouns was he on hormone blockers you know kind of kind of thing like that's i guess what i'm asking for right here's what happens and i understand it right uh an assailant is murdered
Starting point is 00:49:29 killed because our good guys the good guy shot him immediately And look, there was a lot of questions. Don't forget when the military went in and killed Osama bin Laden, right? They went in and they immediately disposed with the body. When things like that happened, it causes the American people to say, why? Why don't we have information? How can we don't know what actually transpired? I will tell you I have complete confidence in FBI under Cash Patel's leadership in Sean Curran's leadership at the U.S. Secret Service. Look, would we have rather had the opportunity, in my opinion, to put this individual on trial for the attempted assassination of President. and Trump to get all the information of who he talked to, what he did and what his motivations were. Of course, although there is a part of me, Benny, that says swift justice, an eye for an eye is just a better justice in this particular case. So I think what we're going to see in the assassination attempt of the assassination of Charlie Kirk is we're going to see an individual being tried who probably is never going to take the stand, who's never going to testify. And I think you'll see a level of frustration that we know this individual did it. There's no question in my mind that
Starting point is 00:50:35 he killed Charlie. The question is, why did he do it? And I don't know if he'll ever get those answers. Right. I guess I'd just like, I guess in a world where there's been a broken down trust. And I say this on the show all the time, Corey. You guys didn't break the machine. You know what I mean? Like it was broken for generations before for four or five, 10 administrations that have slowly eroded the trust in American institutions. And I know there's something very personal of the president, obviously, where it comes to like him getting hit in the head with a bullet. And so I can't even fathom, you know, that this is President Trump's decision, right?
Starting point is 00:51:13 And he's making his own decision on this, probably with the release of this information. But it helps restore the trust when all of the evidence is just sort of presented to the American people. And I just want to encourage that because that's how you actually restore trust on these on these issues when you just when you get you know when that's handed over it happened with the jfk files right like with the jfk files and you guys had a part in that it's just like it's a pressure release valve right where people like oh thanks you know and it also gives sort of the online internet sleuth something to do right instead of standing around being frustrated so well you're right and listen when the government hides things let me just point you to the fake russia collusion narrative right
Starting point is 00:51:53 Thank you. Yes. Clapper and Brennan. These guys literally made this up whole cloth with the advice and consent of the former president of the United States, Barack Obama. We know that that meeting took place in the Oval Office. We know that Hillary Clinton was involved in this. They made the whole thing up and they hid it from the American people.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And every time an outlet asked them a question, they made us sound like we were stupid. Like we didn't have the right to even question them, only to find out that the whole thing was made up. I knew it was made up. I was there every single day. But when you question the leadership of, some of these law enforcement agencies, the comies, the clappers, the Brennan's, they are just so incensed that you would ever question their credibility.
Starting point is 00:52:32 They don't want to talk about the fake letter that was signed as it related to the Hunter Biden laptop that we know is completely made up. They don't want to talk about the fake Russia collusionary. And that's why there is a massive distrust in some of these government agencies because they have lied to us time and time and time again and thought that they were above the law. And finally, only now under this administration are some of those people being held accountable, but it's not enough.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Corey, I swear I don't like have Tara book you, uh, just on pipe bomber days. I swear I don't. Okay. I know we had it. I know it's a total coincidence, but you're, you have a decades long law enforcement pedigree. Um, this has been extremely frustrating to us and our audience. We just played the cash fatel, the brand new clip from cash fatale.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It's only a few hours old of him saying, listen, we, we have had major breakthroughs in the few days on this and you're going to be hearing from us very soon. You're going to be seeing filings very soon. There's going to be public announcements very soon on this. Can you give us any information on that? Do you do you have any idea where this investigation actually looks like? The chief insults to us as viewers and as members of this movement, Corey, is that they were able to find every grandmother who even waved an American flag that day. And they were able to let the single terrorist, something that I'm sure you and I both agree is a literal terrorist walk free. And that's very frustrating.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Well, it goes to show you when you have a government that has an objective, which is to go after every person who is anywhere near the Capitol within 20 miles, whether they were, you know, supporting their own free speech or deciding to do something else. The federal government used every resource available to go after every grandmother, every grandfather, every veteran, every citizen who is out there saying, hey, you used your, you know, your bank card 14 miles away. we're going to come and question you, and they use every resource available. But now what we've seen in Washington, D.C., is literally a person in the nation's capital,
Starting point is 00:54:30 just steps from the capital itself, placing pipe bombs. And we don't have that person brought to justice in a city which is riddled with cameras and oversight and supposed to be one of the safest cities in America. And so, look, I do think we're going to find a resolution to this. And it's amazing to me that, you know, some video footage was released by this agent who was playing with their dogs. They go, well, okay, I guess I exonerate you as if AI has never been used before to manipulate something that maybe we've seen. So listen, I think Cash and the FBI have to run down every single lead. I hope they come back to us very quickly because this is a very, very serious
Starting point is 00:55:06 threat that a person with a hoodie goes in place a pipe bomb and then sees what seems to be, Benny, a police car drive by and just kind of waves nonchalantly to them like they know who it is. And look, I'm not making any assertions here or not. But look, if I'm out doing bad things and I see a police car go by, the last thing I'm trying to do is draw attention to myself would be my mentality, my methodology. So I'd try to be low-key if I was doing that, not that I would. But that's obviously.
Starting point is 00:55:34 This person seems to be relishing in the fact that a police car is going by and they're drawing attention to themselves. Very, very odd. They're saying that the pipe moms with a 60-second timer on them were set to explode right around when the March began the next day at 1 p.m., I remember January 6th, very plainly. I was sitting in the front row at Trump's speech. First off, that's impossible.
Starting point is 00:55:57 How can you set a 60-second timer to go off 18 hours later? But most importantly, like, why would a MAGA bomber be bombing the MAGA parade? Like, this was exactly the time when, like, tons of MAGA supporters were supposed to be right in the circumference of the Capitol. So that makes no sense. Like, they're trying to bomb their own movement. What the hell is it? And, Benny, that's a level of sophistication. that the average person would not have, okay?
Starting point is 00:56:21 Somebody is going to make a pipe bomb. Look, they usually, without speaking, you know, in a classified format, they usually relatively rudimentary, okay? Someone goes online, Googles the information, finds out the basic of it, and then they go and build it on their own. From what they're now telling us, is this was a very sophisticated pipe bomb.
Starting point is 00:56:39 This person could not only elude detection of every camera in Washington, D.C., places leave no DNA evidence anywhere, but then set this thing for 12 or, 18 hours later with precision, and we're only fortunate that we caught it before it ever went off. So listen, this is either a person who's incredibly sophisticated or somebody isn't telling us the truth on what's really going on here. Yeah. Well, I join you, Corey, in praying for total and complete transparency on this, on Thomas Crooks, on Epstein. I think that that's the obvious demands of the American people. So also an like historic opportunity to restore trust, frankly,
Starting point is 00:57:16 that's been eroded. And again, I'm like, I try and be as fair as possible. You know, you guys own the, you guys own the car now. You guys have the keys. But this trust has been destroyed over, over my entire life. You know, I'm nearly, you know, I'm 39 years old. And my entire life, this stuff has been atomized by a bunch of degenerates and a bunch of idiots who've, like, been in these positions and lie to the American people.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And so it's just, like, it'd be really incredible to see just moments of extreme transparency here on these major issues. Okay, so Heritage Foundation. I wanted to ask you about this. This dude at the Heritage Foundation comes forward, his name is Mike Howell, and he says that the Trump administration has fallen short of his promise for mass deportation,
Starting point is 00:58:04 and he notes that there has not been any purposeful, large-scale workplace raids on farms, restaurants, hotels in order to appease the interest of employers, And then he says that DHS has had intentional gaps in their enforcement and undisclosed deportation data. And so he says there needs to be a major increase in deportation operations, Republicans risk betraying their constituents. I wanted to get your response to this, obviously, as this is something that you're deeply involved in. Yeah, Benny, I don't know who this no-name slob is, but he obviously,
Starting point is 00:58:45 has no understanding of what is going on every single day. Okay. I don't know who this guy is. He's completely irrelevant. But what I will tell you is that under the president's administration, Donald Trump's administration, two million people have already self-deported. And over 500,000 individuals who are in this country illegally have been arrested, detained, and deported. And Benny, listen, there's a story out today. I just want to touch on. It says that a relative to Caroline Levitt, the press secretary to the president of the United States, was detained by ICE and is now going through a deportation process. Because I will tell you, we offer no quarter to anybody who is in this country illegally.
Starting point is 00:59:26 It doesn't matter who you are related to. It doesn't matter who you are friends with. If you are in this country illegally and you have a criminal record, we will find you, we will apprehend you, and we will deport you, period, end of conversation. So whoever this genius is over at the Heritage Foundation doesn't know what we're doing, doesn't know that ICE is on path by the end of December. less than 30 days to have 10,000 new officers on duty every day. We are on mission.
Starting point is 00:59:52 We are on point. If you don't think what we're doing makes the community safer, look at Los Angeles, look at Chicago, look at Charlotte, look at the places where we have done large scale operations. And you have to also remember this. The attacks on our ICE officers and CBP officers, the threats and violence against them is up over 1,000% over this time last year. Not because they're sitting back on their laurels doing nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:14 is because they're out in the communities every day. The Latin Kings, a vicious, brutal gang, has put bounties on the heads of our law enforcement agents. So whoever this genius is that's making these false accusations, I'd love to have him come and do a ride along and see what's really like to actually put your life on the line as opposed to sit behind the desk and be another keyboard warrior. I've done a number of those, and it's been eye-opening, in fact.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I've really appreciated the opportunity to do that because, well, you can't really experience. It's kind of like going to a war zone, frankly. You can't really experience it unless you've seen it, up close. And so I've been on these raids. And, you know, it's why ice agents are constantly in my prayers. And I watched Christy Nome actually pray for ice agents there in Portland. And they needed it. I wanted to put up the Chicago. I just want to remind the viewers. You always was in Chicago when they went out and Chief Bovino went into that crowd. And if you remember, he got
Starting point is 01:01:05 hurt that day, right? He was on the ground because he was leading his men and women there at the Chicago ICE detention facility. So this is not for the weak of hearts, not for the faint of These men and women are on the front lines every single day trying to make our community safer. So, you know, it's not an easy job. And so thank a cop if you ever get the chance. That's exactly right. Here we go. The foreign-born population has decreased dramatically.
Starting point is 01:01:28 We see that in the employment numbers and then here in the Center for Immigration Studies by 2.2 million. First time we've seen a decrease like ever. And this is obviously in part because of the enforcement. So, okay, forgive me, Corey. Got a bunch of little kids, and they are all sick this time of year. So I'm glad we do the show remotely, frankly. What about the people who say there's not enough mass deport? Okay, so there's not enough mass deportation.
Starting point is 01:02:00 We want more mass deportations. And this is clearly something that is complicated and that has been blocked by a lot of judges. Nobody's saying that it's easy, but can you vision cast for us? where, Corey, is this headed, right? Like, so everyone saw how you solved traffic in L.A. And in Charlotte, that's a miracle. Well done. Where is this, where is it headed?
Starting point is 01:02:23 Where is this chart going? Where are the deportation charts going? You just said, did you say 10,000 new ICE agents by December? That's right. So let me tell you where we are, Benny. First and foremost, what people don't remember is we had the worst, poorest border under the previous administration that this country has ever seen in. three months, that border is sealed. And over the last six months, we have zero. And I mean
Starting point is 01:02:46 zero individuals coming into this country because we have operational control of the border. So that's a massive difference. So now as we've controlled our borders, we've sealed off our borders, we have the opportunity to go and do this enforcement on the interior of our country. And we're using CBP and ICE to do that. And we're targeting the worst of the worst, the pedophiles, the rapists, the gang members, the MS-13, Trenda-Raguas, etc. And they know we're coming for them. So they're leaving voluntarily because we've told everybody if we find you and we deport you, you will never come back. But we will not let up. I think that by the end of this first year in office, by January 20th of 2026, we will see north of three million total people. That's
Starting point is 01:03:29 the self-deportations and the ones that we have deported leave this country for the first time in American history. We have an outbound migration because people understand what's happening. And we have the top cover from the President of the United States to say to the men and women on the front lines, you can go do your job. So you will see that. Now, what we hear, Benny, all the time. Hey, this guy's been working me for 15 years, 20 years. We can't find American workers. I say, when you have taken jobs away from the American people to subsidize them for the people who are in this country illegally, let me propose something to you, Mr. Business Owner. Why don't you put your personal liability up for that individual who's in the country illegally, which means,
Starting point is 01:04:08 if they commit a crime, you're responsible. They commit a felony, you're responsible. They commit something, you're responsible. You put your financial resources up. If you're so confident that this is the right person, and to an individual, to a business owner, I have never had one tell me that they're willing to put up their home or their family savings or their livelihood
Starting point is 01:04:26 to go and support an illegal who they say is imperative for their success of their business. So go hire Americans. We have the greatest workforce here in this country that the world has ever seen. but when you're subsidizing and allowing individuals to work for your company at a cheaper rate because you don't want to pay your fair share, shame on you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Final question on this, and thank you for your generous time, Corey. What can be done about employers? So I'm reading this, you know, I'm reading this Heritage Foundation Fellow or whatever, go after DHS. And what he's what he's talking about is he's talking about these large-scale businesses that hire hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands. of criminal aliens. What the hell is that, Corey? Certainly there can be a way
Starting point is 01:05:12 through Department of Labor. Certainly, there are laws on the books that says you can't do that, but am I, am I that naive? Like, how is this even allowed to happen? You're spot on. The construction sites in Charlotte,
Starting point is 01:05:25 sorry to interrupt, the construction sites in Charlotte, all being empty. Like, my God, like, all of the students are, are illegals, all the students are illegal aliens. All the construction workers
Starting point is 01:05:34 in Charlotte are illegal aliens. All the drivers in Charlotte, in Charlotte are illegal aliens? What the hell is going on, Corey? You're spot on because for years, decades even, there's never been an enforcement mechanism for these businesses. So if they can pay someone under the minimum wage and not get caught with it, they were willing to take the chance. This is the first time in a generation, if not our lifetime, that there's actually a president willing to enforce those laws. So what we do all the time as a department is we go to these companies and say, we want a list of every I-9 that you have for the people who work for you. And most of the
Starting point is 01:06:07 time, if not always, they turn them over voluntarily because it gives us the opportunity to then verify that the people who are working there are either legal or illegal. And if they are illegal, we tell these business owners, we're going to come back. I'm going to do a workforce enforcement raid. I'm going to take all these people out. Or you can turn them over. It's completely up to you. And you wouldn't believe it. You wouldn't believe how many business owners are saying, please don't raid my business. Here are the people who've been working for me illegally. Let me give you the addresses. And not just that. What? we're seeing, Benny, across the board is through a number of technologies that we have,
Starting point is 01:06:43 the abuse as it relates to marriage fraud and fraud for services that these individuals are permeating. So we're seeing about 35% of the illegal aliens in this country are also defrauding the government for some type of service, whether it's welfare or social security or something else. So we finally have a holistic of government approach that allows the U.S. CIS to work with CBP that works with ICE, that works with everybody across the board to go out and prevent this from happening. And our country is being fundamentally transformed for the better and will be even better going forward. I mean, you love to see it. It seems like a pretty obvious if you can't get work, the whole purpose of this is economic migration and then to send remittances home to their home country
Starting point is 01:07:31 to steal money, to take money out of America and send it back to Guatemala or Honduras or wherever, Somalia. If you can't do that, then the problem's going to solve itself eventually. And so it seems like employment crackdown is like the obvious way to do this. It's a lot easier than rounding people up in Walmart parking lots. But what do I know, you know? When we hit L.A., the traffic went down about 25% because the illegals were afraid to come out. Okay. There is nowhere we will not go to keep the American people safe. So if that's what it takes to reduce the traffic, which is to make sure ICE is on every corner or we've got enforcement happening all over the place, we will continue to do that because the American people deserve it and they voted for it. What about, what about Minneapolis? So here's this shocking report. Here's a shocking report about the Somalis. I'm just going to pop it up on screen and let you respond to it. But like it's talking about how billions of dollars of.
Starting point is 01:08:30 fraud has gone to pay for Muslim terrorists in Somalia. And this is obviously clearly like they straight up are egregious in their defrauding of the system and using the autism reports and federal funds and local funds. And they sent it back in bags of cash to go fund Muslim terrorism in Somalia. What's going to happen in Minneapolis? us. Well, Benny, if you let me not get out in front of what our plan is, I would appreciate that. I will tell you this. You are not the first to raise this issue. It will not be the last to raise this issue. But I think in the coming days and weeks, you will see a dramatic change
Starting point is 01:09:17 in posture in that community because this is clearly a major story that requires intervention to fix the problem. And so I don't want to get too far in front of this thing. But if you're doing something illegally and you're in that community or you're in that state, I would recommend yourself to pour. Go to the CBP home app and get the hell out of the country. Really quickly, since we're on the topic, I wasn't planning on asking about this, but in the first administration, I had people that worked at DHS. I was very close with, and they since moved on to consulting and whatever. But they said that there is like, there is bona fide proof that Ilhan Omar committed fraud and multiple layers of fraud and independent reporting.
Starting point is 01:09:58 from the Daily Mail, The Guardian and others have confirmed this that Ilhan Omar was in fraudulent marriages and that she was trying to do end around immigration policies and so on. Anyway, it's practically a meme at this point. The president posts about it quite often. Is DHS ever going to like do a proper investigation into this? Or should we ever expect anything? Ilhan Omar to ever have to answer to these allegations? Will they ever become charges, you know, like? So again, I don't want to comment on a potential investigation because it'll probably put me in the jackpot and I get in enough trouble on my own when I'm on your show. Just think of bad bunny. Okay. So, so what I what I say is we have to let the process play out a
Starting point is 01:10:49 little bit, right? I mean, look, I made the bad money story, Benny on your show and all of a sudden, like the world explodes. If you're not on, if you're not on T. after being on my show, then we haven't done it right. Yeah. That's true. And unfortunately, I think they know where I live. So I will say, I don't want to get out in front of an investigation. I do know, as you have, again, articulated, there's been a lot of concern and consternation
Starting point is 01:11:13 about some of the stories of it out in the public. Some of them, as you know, are false and have to get run down. But some of them do have a sense of truth to them. And it's our obligation to go and investigate any potential crime and make sure that if you are committing crimes in this country, you're held accountable. Because as we've heard many times when Donald Trump was being investigated, nobody is above the law. Not Adam Schifty Schiff, nobody, not Ilihan Omar. Nobody's above the law.
Starting point is 01:11:37 So we're going to apply the law equally to everybody. All right. So you're saying there's a chance. Okay. Great. So you're saying there's a chance. Dumb and dumber. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Final thing, Corey, final thing to get you to react to because it's something near and dear to your heart that just broke while you were saying your last answer. brand new, fresh off the presses, breaking news, Georgia prosecutor drops all charges against President Trump and others. I know many of your, many of your and my friends, mutual friends like Rudy Giuliani, in the 2020 election fraud case. So since you just mentioned it, it's perfect, no one is above the law, your response to this, Corey. My response was this was a weaponized abuse of power against.
Starting point is 01:12:25 people that they didn't like Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, David Schaefer, the former chairman of the Republican Party in Georgia, so many others who were out just making inquiries. And so this is a slight validation, a slight validation. But just think of what these people had to go through. Some people were losing their law licenses. People lost their homes because of this. And what I want to see is justice. And I mean that, Benny, in the positive sense, you know, every time Donald Trump articulates, maybe going after somebody, the left comes up and says, oh, you're weaponizing the Justice Department. Where were they three years ago, four years ago, five years ago, when everybody who was
Starting point is 01:13:01 involved with questioning the outcome of the 2020 election was being indicted or brought in for a grand jury having to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend themselves. So this is a positive step, but it's much too little, much too late, and it never should have happened in the first place. These people were just asking questions, and this was the weaponization of another district attorney like we saw in New York, and now we've seen in Georgia, finally getting resolved. I mean, I guess it's nice to see the conclusion here that we all wanted, but you're exactly right. It's, it's years too late. And the tens of millions of dollars that have been spent
Starting point is 01:13:42 on these frauds, I mean, the process is the punishment. So anyway, we'd love to see that applied to Ilhan Omar. So just the thought, yeah, happy to send you her, her marriage documents. Corey, I know, I know your number. I'll text them to you after the show. Here's Corey Lewandowski, ladies and gentlemen. You should be up in Corey Lewandowski's mentions. He's one of just an absolute and total barn burner for the administration. He's a man who's worked with President Trump for the better part of decades at this point and is the architect of the bag of movement. He has 600,000 subscribers here on X. You should be one of them. Thank you, Corey. Happy Thanksgiving. Ladies and gentlemen, that interview went a little bit long because we were getting our next guest set.
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Starting point is 01:16:21 Oh, yes, the brand new one that Democrats are trying. right now against Trump. Let's go to Don Brown. Don, welcome. Welcome to the program, man. Thanks, man. Happy Thanksgiving. That was a, even though the segment went a little long, I was enjoying that great segment with Corey. And I'm in Charlotte right now, by the way, just to follow up. And it's true. The traffic disappeared. And I'll tell you something else. We came down at the end of day one. I was speaking in Greensboro, and we got news that Border Patrol it comes. We went down to First World Park, and we got there almost sunset as the TV cameras
Starting point is 01:17:00 were sort of breaking. The first thing we saw these young folks in their 20s, kind of like you, I know, you're a little older than that, but you know, younger types running around with shirts that said socialism is the answer, and who paid for that. And the other thing that's an interesting little tidbit is that I had a routine matter at the Department of Motor Vehicles this week, and just to go in and make a little change and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I got in and out within 25 minutes and all the sort of bonus points that we get from the Board Patrol being here. So I know you haven't asked me any questions yet, but I thought you might find that fascinating. I do find it fascinating.
Starting point is 01:17:40 We have said quite regularly on this program that every problem that you have in American society right now could be alleviated and ameliorated with mass deportations. Whether it is packed classroom sizes, the prices at the grocery store, the prices of gas, the prices of a home, or traffic on your street or crime on your sidewalks, all of them can be solved with mass deportations. That is the answer. And Charlotte's proving it right now. And Charles became a hub for sex trafficking and fentanyl trafficking as a result of the borders being open. Now, the borders being shut. But we still got to get these folks out. All these families who've lost their sons and daughters to accidental overdoses, losing more Americans in one year to fentanyl,
Starting point is 01:18:24 and 10 years of the Vietnam War is it's atrocious. So I applaud the administration and I'm hoping to see him keep it up. I know that he will. So step in the right direction. I agree with you. I think getting into the to the businesses is probably the most efficient way of identifying a lot of these folks who are taking American jobs. We've got to get our jobs back.
Starting point is 01:18:42 So I didn't mean to go off track, but agree with that all. Not at all. The data backs you up, obviously. I mean, the maps speak for themselves, right? This is like, thank ICE. If you're in the Charlotte area, Thank ICE for your Thanksgiving holiday traffic alleviation and holiday travel capacity around the Charlotte area, if that is where you live. Okay. So, Don, this is your first time on the show. You are a former Navy JAG officer. You served at the Pentagon.
Starting point is 01:19:14 You were also a former special U.S. assistant attorney. And so I wanted to talk with you. You had sort of a person. perfect pedigree to talk about this fascinating video that is from the seditious six, as they have been called by Pete Hig Seth. And in this video, we don't need to play the whole thing or any of it other than to effectuate that what they are doing is declaring that members of the military and Intel services stop following orders from the commander chief and from the Pentagon. And we've read American law and we've read some of the military law live on air. It doesn't seem legal.
Starting point is 01:20:00 It doesn't seem something that is smart to do. And it seems very insurrection-y to us. But we're not the experts. Don, you are. So what's your take on this? Well, first off, let's be clear. The commander-in-chief, the president of the United States has the constitutional authority to protect American lives and property on the high seas.
Starting point is 01:20:21 It goes all the way back to Thomas Jefferson with the Barbary Wars when he sent the Navy and the Marine Corps into the Mediterranean when the Barbary Powered for attacking American shipping. Abraham Lincoln seized the RMS trend, a British mail ship because they had a Confederate sympathizer. And Franklin Roosevelt issued shoot-on-kill orders to the Navy in the Atlantic before Pearl Harbor when we were protecting convoys against German U-boats. Of course, Reagan sent troops into Grenada, George H.W. Bush into Panama, and even Bill Clinton issued a naval blockade of Haiti. So it is constitutionally proper for the president of the United States. Under his authority, his commander and chief to protect Americans in the high seas. Now, listen, these dingbat Democrats know about as much of the Constitution or the UCMJS. I know about speaking manner or Chinese. They know nothing. The issue with Mark Kelly, he's a Navy captain, and the UCM. which is the, which is the criminal code for the military, adopted and signed in 1950 by President Eisenhower, passed by the Congress, allows Mark Kelly and anyone else who is a retiree to be brought back up, investigated and prosecuted for violations of the UCMJ, and there are about five or six here. So I'm glad to see my friend Pete Hedgeseth take action here. I hope that we're going to see more substantive action. It is the height of their responsibility. Look, they're putting American lives in danger by encouraging sailors. and Marines and airmen and not to follow orders,
Starting point is 01:21:48 it's the most despicable thing I've seen and many of despicable things that Democrats have done for political gain. So since you were a JAG lawyer, I mean, we've all seen a few good men, right? Like, I'm sure you were Tom Cruise. Well, yeah, you consider it resemblance, right, many? I mean, I get mixed up all the time with Tommy, you know.
Starting point is 01:22:07 That's right. I can say, you know, I can see it, man. I'm going to be. Everybody about that. You're going to be in the next mission impossible, bro. go ahead there's got to be like you know could you could you break it down like you would for a very trusted and very loyal labrador somebody who doesn't know the military code probably frontwards and backwards like you right what what what military code laws were broken what would charges look like against mark kelly for instance center from arizona uh in this case like how would you prosecute this case
Starting point is 01:22:41 Okay, first off, because Mark Kelly is retiree and as the Navy captain is entitled to pay, not every veteran can be called back for prosecution, but retirees can. So Article 2 of the UCMJ allows us to call him back to investigate and for violating the UCMJ. There are about six different articles. The one that comes to mind first is Article 94, which prevents mutiny and sedition. Sedition basically is when a member of the armed forces or retiree encourages the disobedience of civilian authority. And, of course, Article 2 of our Constitution makes the president of the commander-in-chief. You can't do that. It's just not just Article 94, but Article 88 prevents what we call, you know, disrespect or contempt against the commander-in-chief.
Starting point is 01:23:33 So, you know, as a member of the public, you can say whatever you want to say. then the context of the military, you can't speak disrespectfully against income energy. So he's looking at Article 88, Article 94, there's the general article 134. He's undermining good order and discipline. I don't want to go too deep into the weeds. But those three in and of themselves are grounds for investigation. And my judgment, calling him back and subjecting him to what we call a general court martial. So then what would happen in the court martial?
Starting point is 01:24:02 This is fascinating, by the way. I'm very interested in this. Could you explain what Mark Kelly would be facing? Like, let's say that you were defending him and he was sitting in a room with you. You know, you just explained three or four different rules in the UCMJ that he broke. What penalties could be facing? Well, the president has said, I mean, theoretically, for sedition, you could go all the way to the death penalty. That wouldn't happen here, but it is, it is possible.
Starting point is 01:24:30 He could also be prosecuted for treason and I didn't even go there. that is giving aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States, and these drug cartels are that. But, you know, he's going to try to raise, you know, First Amendment types of defenses, but the UCMJ was passed by Congress, and a number of these articles have been held to survive from constitutional standpoints. What will happen is if, in fact, he's recalled there will be an investigation, you know, what we call an Article 32 investigation in the military, that's kind of like a probable cause investigation where a commander will appoint an investigating officer to look at what he said and what the others have said and determine whether or not there's probable cause
Starting point is 01:25:14 that he has violated one of the articles. And I think that's a pretty easy go. And then if the decision is made to prosecute him, there will be a general court-martial convening authority could be the president or it could be, you know, a regional commander such as sent com, you know, a number of them that could convene the court. And then a jury would be selected and a trial would take place to determine whether there's not, there's been a violation. But he could be called back up, forced back in uniform and face charges on this. And I think, you know, we need to at least get this process in the motion. You just can't have members of the Congress trying to undermine a valid, you know, order from the president. Listen, the whole idea of dis-unlawful orders. I mean,
Starting point is 01:25:57 look, Obama, for example, used drones to kill American citizens in the Middle East. Now, some of those American citizens might be shady, but they have constitutional rights. Out on the high seas, these terrorists who are bringing fentanyl, which is a weapon of mass destruction into the nation, have zero constitutional rights. And it isn't like the president's ordered some action against American citizens like Obama did when the Democrats sat back and said nothing. So the whole notion that there's been something illegally ordered is ridiculous. And when you press these Democrats, they can't even point to anything. You flip this around.
Starting point is 01:26:30 So Mark Kelly is occupying what you would call the John McCain seat, right, from Arizona. When Barack Obama was yeeding American citizen teenagers in Yemen with drones without a trial, which is, of course, prima facie, illegal and unconstitutional. right. Sorry, sir. Even then, if John McCain had the bloody cheek and temerity to come out and say, stop following orders of the commander in chief, I would just, I would totally disavow that. Right. Like, I would view that as like something that is indefensible, frankly. You know, argue that it's unconstitutional, but bring an impeachment charge if you, if you would like, if you feel that strongly about it. But to make a video that says all of you people serving in the military,
Starting point is 01:27:15 stop following orders of the commander-in-chief, yo, that's like, that's, I mean, I would never be down for that, like under any circumstance, right? Like, that's the destruction of the country. That's the destruction of the military order. And a lot of these guys are on nuclear submarines. And a lot of these guys have nuclear weapons or F-22 Raptors, very dangerous weapons could kick off World War II.
Starting point is 01:27:41 We have bases in every country around the world, and guns pointed. in every country around the world, and if you start like decaying order, then you'll kick off a world war real fast and get a bunch of people killed. Like if you start sending these messages to the American troops, I mean, it's totally,
Starting point is 01:27:58 it's insanely dangerous and indefensible. Yeah, it's an unconstitutional attack on the chain of command. See if the chain of command is constitutionally authorized at Article 2 with the president's command here in chief. And when you start undermining this chain of command, that you put American lives and other lives in danger.
Starting point is 01:28:14 And it's a reckless assault against good order and discipline. What are you going to try to do? You're going to try to find, you know, we have Democrats that serve in the military. We have Republicans. You're going to try to isolate the Republicans, the Democrats against Republicans on a nuclear submarine, on a trite-class submarine or on USS Abraham Lincoln or whatever the shit might be. That is what they're appearing to try to do. And it's the most irresponsible thing I've ever seen a member.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Well, I won't say the most irresponsible is among the most irresponsible acts I've ever seen members of the United States Senate engage in. Well, you know, I know that you were running for the Senate. And I didn't want to give you an opportunity to talk to me about your race since this is our first time meeting, you know, here on this beautiful live stream digital format. So the floor is yours, Don, before we jump off here. I entered the race back in late February, early March, in large part because the current sitting Senator Tom Tillis was undermining a number of the president's appointees. And of course, I worked very closely with the Secretary of War Pete Hedstaff on some military issues. We worked very hard to try and secure a presidential pardon for Lieutenant Clinton Lawrence, who had
Starting point is 01:29:26 been in who had been in Leavenworth charged under Obama's rules of engagement and convicted for quote-unquote murder because his folks have been in the firefighting in Afghanistan. So I got worked closer to Pete, believed that he's one of President Trump's best picks ever. He's going to be the best Secretary of Defense, now Secretary of War ever, and Tillis had promised to, if any nominees for the cabinet had come through the confirmation process that he would support that nominee, Pete came through the Senate Armed Services Committee and Tillis then still tried to tank the nomination. So that's what kind of kicked me off to the race. We've been in the race ever since then. We're running on America First agenda,
Starting point is 01:30:07 I believe, and I would love to see those Doge cuts eventually codified. I think the president has done a brilliant job. It's been the most brilliant execution of any administration in history in the first 300 days. But our Republican Congress has got a step to the plate. We still have a Department of Education that's got to go. The IRS has got to go. I'm running on what I call Benny a Deep State Reduction Act. One of the recommendations that Doge made is 300, the 400 agencies have got to go.
Starting point is 01:30:34 We have got to take a neat cleaver to the deep state for two regions. It's number one because it's busting our national debt is going out of control because it is deep state. If you cannot constitutionally defend an agency, three letter, four, letter, five letter, it's got to go. The Department of Education, of course, is under the crosshairs. It's got to go. FEMA was an absolute disaster here in western North Carolina. We still have people that are displaced. That's got to go.
Starting point is 01:31:02 The Internal Revenue Service has got to go. So I'm going to bring a neat cleaver approach to the United States Senate. And we have to understand President Trump has been certainly the greatest president in our lifetime. We have a thing called the 22nd Amendment in the Constitution, which means that at high noon on January 20th, 20209, we'll have another commander-in-chief. We love J.D. Vance. President Trump is Mount Rushmore Quality for so many of the things that he's represented. But whoever that president is is not going to be President Trump. And the Republican Congress has got to step up. And Congress has to fulfill its constitutional role. we have this deep state because Congress historically has abandoned its constitutional role.
Starting point is 01:31:42 You go back to Woodrow Wilson, then you go back with the world must be made safe to democracy. We're not a democracy. We're a constitutional republic. You look at Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal, this administrative state exploded. Then you go to Lyndon Johnson with the great society. It exploded even more. And then Obamacare. Four major moves of Democrat Congresses is to put us in this position, we've got to take out the deep state.
Starting point is 01:32:04 That's what I'll be committed to, and that's what I'm running on. and I'm going to have the president's back, and we're going to bring the torch of MAGA into the future, even after January of 2009. It's going to be up to the United States Congress, our Republicans in Congress, and that's what's driving me to run. I can see it clearly.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Don Brown for the military tribunals for the deep state. Now I can see the vision here. I'm on board with Pete Head, Seth. In Kelly's case, he should be ashamed of himself. He of all people, and it needs to take place. as far as I'm concerned. Ladies and gentlemen, you can follow Don right here on X. He's got 20,000 followers.
Starting point is 01:32:44 And he is running again for Senate in the Great State of North Carolina. And boy, he's made quite a convincing case. I've been watching the chat here. Boy, this guy seems like a good old loyal American. This is what one of our commenters said on Rumble. And I'll tell you what, Don, you're welcome back anytime. Thanks, man. Thank you, Ben.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Come down in North Carolina. We'll give you a tour. We'd love to have you. You're a celebrity down here. and happy thanksgiving to you and your family as long as there's barbecue involved brother i'll be there you got all right all right godspeed happy thanksgiving thank you brother ladies and gentlemen when the christ child was given gifts amongst them was gold and that's crazy because it was thousands of years ago it did happen it's all real the reason why that story matters
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Starting point is 01:35:02 Is my pastor who's been advising me on these things and his advice is great and uh well i thought that we should share that with you since i love you the chat pastor joe harris from calvert chapel joins us live now pastor joe what's up man any how you doing it is uh one of the most famous moustaches in uh all of christendom is is pastor jose Joe's. Every time I post a photo with him, I want to talk about the advancement of the Kingdom of Christ, but all the comment section wants to talk about is how Epic Joe's mustache is. So I guess we might as well just be out with it, right? It might as well just get it, you know, just talk about it up front, elephant in the room. I mean, you've made my mustache famous, so it's your post that I've made it go viral. So thank you for that. It's here to stay.
Starting point is 01:36:04 So we are entering the holiday season. This is a holiday season, obviously, where I think a lot of people lose touch and lose their peace. A lot of times in these moments, you can also engage in fights and wars with family members and stress. That stress has already hit the Johnson household this holiday season, or my wife and I both had to calm down, all right, on this stuff. And so I wanted to bring you on for just some spiritual advice on the next coming. couple months of what it's really about what are the what are some of the better ways to find peace in this period well it's interesting we're going uh into thanksgiving and the idea of peace i mean a scripture that comes to mind actually is the is a scripture in philippians
Starting point is 01:36:50 that says don't be anxious about anything but in everything present your request to god with thanksgiving and then the peace of god which transpasses trespasses all understanding and guard your hearts and minds in christ jesus so you know i would start with that I mean, I know sometimes maybe it's differences of worldviews around the table that might cause some conflict, and maybe that's what you're, you know, referring to. But, you know, actually, when we were in Clemson the other day, somebody asked the same question to you, they were asking, well, you know, how do we handle people of a different worldview, different belief system, you know, in our families? And you had, you know, such an excellent answer to that question that, you know, basically who else is going to love them? who else is going to show them the love of Christ besides you. So I think one of the ways to have peace around the table is to just think of yourself as being on mission.
Starting point is 01:37:42 You know, think of, I mean, you are a person that has the gospel of Christ in you. You have experienced the love of God, forgiveness of sins through Jesus. And, you know, for me personally, I've been converted by faith in Christ. So I know what it's like to be different and that the grace of God can change anyone. So I'm not going to have love in my heart for someone who's completely different for me. I'm going to have hope for someone. I'm not going to be hateful towards anyone. I mean, if anything, we're the peacemakers, right?
Starting point is 01:38:13 We have the grace of God and us. So that's a good question. That's a good thought. Good thing to consider. So be in peace. What about a scripture when it comes with my wife and I? Certainly there's plenty of people that can have worldview differences and that can cause stress. around the holiday table, especially when there's been a box of wine drained, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:35 in the fridge or a bottle of Carlo Rossi rolling around on the floor. People can get to, you know, the feathers can fly, the turkey can fly, you know, in those kind of situations. With my wife and I, it's just the stress of the holiday season, you know, everything from us having to host Thanksgiving dinner and all of the various things that have to happen in this next month, you know, traditionally when it comes to buying presents and the kids and the family members all coming in, who's staying where, who's doing what? What about times when it doesn't include worldview conflict, but it really just includes extreme heightened stress, right? That can really
Starting point is 01:39:11 destroy the purpose of the season. And how should you work yourself through that as a Christian? Yeah, the message of the season is that Christ the king came to us with the utmost humility. He laid down his life for us, served us. I think one of the best ways to handle that is to just continue to think of yourself as a servant, to have humility. I mean, for us, you know, the pressure is we set our own bar. You know, we set a bar of pride, essentially, if we think we have to have the perfect Christmas, the perfect gifts, the perfect, you know, perfectly baked, you know, turkey. So for us, it's almost, you know, we should think of ourselves as being humble servants. We're serving our kids. We're serving a table of food. So, you know, if we humble ourselves and serve others like Christ
Starting point is 01:39:59 served us, then it keeps from, you know, us being deflated, us, it actually takes the stress off, you know, if we don't have, you know, everything is not going to be perfect, right? We are not perfect. Jesus is the only perfect one. There's going to be a dish that tastes bad. There's going to be a present that's the wrong, you know, a sweatshirt that's the wrong size, a remote control car that doesn't work. So it's put that pressure on ourselves. I mean, Christmas is a about humility, Christmas is about serving. Ultimately, it's, ultimately it's about the grace of God that came to us to give us salvation through Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:40:32 So, you know, having that same humility as Christ had towards us is really, I think, the way to eliminate the pressure, the stress, because the stress is not on us. The stress, you know, God carries our burden. So just having faith, humility. Well, as people are going through their breathing exercises, in the kitchen you know in order to like calm down right or locking themselves in the pantry to get themselves together what would be what would be a scripture that would roll through your
Starting point is 01:41:03 mind in order to bring peace so having well really the one i just started with was having gratitude and in praying i mean back in the day we would have hit the whiskey bottle or i mean i would have in you know lit up a cigarette you know that's kind of like before christ but now there's new ways to cope with life and distress. So, you know, by faith, right? So we have, like he says here in Philippians, present your request to God with gratitude. So gratitude for everything. Gratitude for our salvation, thankfulness for the health of our families, to have a roof overhead to be in America, the land, the opportunity, the freedom we have. We can say Christmas. We can sing. We can go to church, you know, and celebrate the gospel and sing about Jesus. And like all of the good things,
Starting point is 01:41:47 just having gratitude and for what Christ has done. And for what he's given us. I mean, he's blessed us so much. So, you know, just having that heart for God and a gratitude and in prayer. And, you know, obviously praying, praying in the spirit, just taking a moment to trust him, let right by faith. Yes. I feel like, you know, I'm no expert on this, and I, I just observing anecdotally, but like our entire culture is just built on ingratitude and the desire for more. And that seems like, the least practiced virtue, man, is just having gratitude for what you've been given. And there's a lot of consternation and anxiety right now in the job market and in the economy
Starting point is 01:42:33 and, you know, with the administration. And I feel like there's such a fleeting appreciation for how much you are required to just be thankful. And I'm reading through Matthew right now. And it's like, Christ's like talking about like, you know, yo, like the birds, like you're worth so much more. than the birds. Yeah. And God loves them like a lot. And you're worth so much more than these flowers that are just going to be thrown in the fire. And they're beautiful. Like they're more beautiful than Solomon ever was, you know. And you're worth so much more than that, in fact. And so like chill out, right? Like give us this day our daily bread. But nobody practices gratitude like at all. Like it's the thing you see the very least, frankly, is people just
Starting point is 01:43:14 being thankful. Why is that? I hate that. You know, I think it's probably because of misunderstanding. of the gospel you know the Jesus actually says we have every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms it's partly because of that and then it's partly because we want material things you know and like let's say you travel to east Africa and you're like I've been there several times doing missions and it's they don't have the same American dream that we have you know they don't have the same opportunities that that we have they don't have the same material life that we have so a lot of times we don't realize that like we have everything we need in Christ and then the material things that he gives us,
Starting point is 01:43:53 those things are, you know, just icing on the cake, essentially. Those things are, they are blessings and material blessings, but they actually don't even compare with the spiritual blessings that we have in Christ. So we have to keep the American dream in perspective. I mean, we do have, you know, this amazing country with opportunity all around us, and we are driven to succeed. We're driven to have a house with cars and all of these things, family, two, you know, three kids and a dog, you know.
Starting point is 01:44:17 But it has to stay within perspective, because we already have everything we need. We have, you know, eternal life. Paul even would say, if I have food and clothing, I'll be content with that. So the other things, the house, the career, the success, the followers, how many followers, what are we, you know, all of those things are just secondary to the main thing of being right with God
Starting point is 01:44:40 through Jesus Christ, through faith in Christ. So when we lose sight of the gospel and finding our fullness in Christ, and then we begin to, you know, be stressed, be in. empty and not have gratitude. I mean, we should be actually, we should wake up every day and be grateful that we're not going to hell. We should be grateful that we have eternal life. We should have, we should be grateful that we have breath in our lungs.
Starting point is 01:45:00 We have another day to breathe, another day to hug our families and hug our kids. But we lose sight of the things that are truly important because of, honestly, because of the amazing, sometimes because of the amazing opportunities we have right in front of us, materially, if that makes sense. It does. Isn't it? You know, it's something that I think a lot of people have been questioning, especially as we've watched at scale, the largest martyrdom. I think that any of us will ever witness, which is Charlie Kirk dying for his beliefs. You know, no man dies for a lie. Charlie died for the truth. And, you know, we've sort of had a front row seat to all of that. It's been a wild and shocking spiritual moment. I think for many in the country, what's been your take on what's been happening in America? Like, how is it? God working right now through that. I think it's been a spiritual awakening, to be honest. I think people are searching. People are asking questions. Why did someone have to die so young? People
Starting point is 01:46:00 even ask those questions like, well, if God is good, why does someone, you know, why does a good person die young like that, you know? But it's actually a picture of the crucifixion of Christ. It's a picture of the martyrdom of Stephen. And, you know, I think if you were to ask Charlie Kirk, even in this moment, would he change anything? I don't think he would. I think we have to look at the situation and see, man, God used the death, an untimely death. Yes, it's a tragic death.
Starting point is 01:46:27 It's untimely. But it caused a revival. It caused hundreds of thousands of young people to question and to say, I believe, to say I'm going to read the Bible for the first time and to wake up. I think the hard part is, is you see a lot of people just say they believe in God,
Starting point is 01:46:44 but yet aren't finding, you know, a good Bible teaching church and finding the true gospel. I think that's the hard part is, is people want to be the voice of Charlie Kirk. But Charlie Kirk would always say, you know, the most important thing is your faith, your relationship with Jesus Christ. So I don't want to lose sight of that with Charlie. That was his legacy, is a legacy of faith. And he did love politics.
Starting point is 01:47:07 He loved the country. He loved conservative thought and all those things are good. But he would always say the most important thing is your personal relationship with Jesus. So I just hope that message continues. You know, I'm thankful you've given me opportunities to pray at some of these turning point events and keeping faith really the priority. But that's my take on it is like, let's not lose the main thing. You know, let's not lose faith while we die for the country, right?
Starting point is 01:47:33 Let's continue to keep the main thing seeking first the kingdom of God and the gospel and a relationship with Jesus Christ. And then loving our country, those are great things. It's a good thing. need to fight for that for our posterity for posterity and for our legacy and but the main thing is that legacy of faith right yes yes that's right nations come and go and you know it's it there's there's always a churning of the wheel um there are things outside of our control it's all in god's control but uh christ remains eternal and the same and so uh in conclusion pastor
Starting point is 01:48:06 what would be your message this christmas season just to realign uh the uh the christians watching and maybe some people who are on the fence about like what is what is christmas exactly it's the message of salvation god you know for god so loved the world that he gave as one and only son that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life i think if you could find a if you're not in a solid bible
Starting point is 01:48:32 teaching church that really has conservative theology saying that like you actually believe that jesus is fully god that he is was perfect the board of a virgin those are important doctrine. So get to a Bible-believing church that teaches the gospel. But, you know, for men, especially, be the spiritual leader of your home. Read the Christmas story. Believe. You know, don't just read it, but believe. Give thanks to God with your family. Pray. Give thanks for the gospel that God came to save us, that Jesus, he was born in a manger, but he lived a perfect life,
Starting point is 01:49:04 died sacrificially, rose from the grave, right, to defeat sin and death for us so that whoever believes can have eternal life. That's the Christmas story. That's what it's about, that God came to save us and that people who believe in Jesus can have that eternal life. So, you know, being that, so celebrate Christmas and keep that meaning central, the actual Christmas story of Jesus and read the story, pray to Jesus, trust in Jesus as your Savior, you know, call your kids to believe in Jesus and celebrate the true literal risen king.
Starting point is 01:49:41 right that came to save us and and worship him somewhere with other believers who believe in king jesus that he is the one who all holds all things together and he is the eternal king the king of kings and live live for him walk with him and worship him right just like the wise men did in christmas we worship him the same way because we know he's the eternal god i mean i would never call myself wise but maybe in this circumstance it would be merited because that is what we intend on in the Johnson household. If you are a wise man, you should take that advice. And that's what the wise men did in the earliest, in the first Christmas. And it's what wise men do now, 2,000 plus years later. Uh, wise men also, uh, follow and Joe Harris,
Starting point is 01:50:27 Pastor Joe Harris here on X. Here we go, Pastor Joe Harris of Calvary Chapel here in South Tampa. He's my pastor. And, um, you know, I think he's, he's, I, you know, whatever, wherever you are in your faith journey, you'd find rock solid advice and sound Christian doctrinal principles from his page. You should follow him. And if you're in Tampa, come join us at Calvert Chapel. Thank you, Pastor. Thanks, Benny. It's a pleasure, man. Godspeed. All right, you too. See you soon. You really mean it. That's like, great. It's been a rowdy show like we didn't plan on rolling for two hours here on the show.
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Starting point is 01:52:50 let's go ahead and uh, let's go ahead and check the polls. Peace on Earth from Polly Market. It's rock and roll. We want peace on earth. Boy, it'd be nice to have in time for Christmas. The odds of a Russia, Ukraine ceasefire in 2025. On Friday? Goodness. 25%. At 15%. Okay. You got to just like, obviously, blend the numbers here. 20% and 25%. What are the odds of a Russia Ukraine ceasefire? A Christmas ceasefire, a Thanksgiving ceasefire. Didn't we have one of those in World War I? We did at the great Thanksgiving ceasefire in World War I, where both sides went. played soccer together or something like that at christmas or thanksgiving ceasefire that'd be
Starting point is 01:53:42 beautiful to see amazing how ukraine in russia during war war one they were also fighting then in world war two these are such ancient eternal battles with these blood feuds tribal blood feuds we want nothing to do with it be done with it we don't want to fund it we don't want more death let's have peace on earth please and then let's focus on our own country damn it nice okay thank you polymarker for these uh for these encouraging odds. I would love to see it. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:54:12 again, I'd love to see you have Christmas ornaments on your Christmas tree. You can go to shop Benny. Go pop the URL up one more time. You can go to the Benny store and order yours. We are shipping out thousands of them per day. It's amazing. We make virtually no money off the $5.
Starting point is 01:54:34 I mean, what can you do, right? That's not the point. That's not the point of this. The point of these ornaments is to bring cheer and warmth and liveliness, joy throughout the nation to make sure that you have a fun, to make sure that you have something fun to put on your tree. And I do have one final. I do have a, here, here we go. From Debbie Summers.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Debbie Summers. I don't know if you're watching. Debbie Somers sent it such beautiful photos. of her tree. I'm sending him to you, Klein. Yeah, email. Here we go, Klein. I wanted to do this.
Starting point is 01:55:15 I wanted to do more of this. I'm so sorry that we have had a crazy week. But here we go. Debbie Summers writes, Hi, Benny. My husband and I retired, and we watch you every day. We saw the Christmas ornaments
Starting point is 01:55:28 that you are selling and we decided that they would be perfect for our little Charlie Brown Christmas tree. And she asked, how did we do? Well, Debbie, we're going to throw your Christmas tree right upon the show here. And you can see for yourself. Probably best not to put up your email. There you go.
Starting point is 01:55:53 Okay. Here we go. We can grab the email client directly. That's fine. And here they are, ladies and gentlemen. These are beautiful Christmas. They're incredible. We love them. Look at that. She's got the Melania.
Starting point is 01:56:12 We've got the bomber. They look great. And the JD sitting there on the bow? We love it. Thank you, Debbie. Summers, this is from Debbie Summers. Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas. From Debbie Summers, God bless you. And we will bless you with a final verse of the day here.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Thanksgiving 2025. Rejoice, always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances. This is God's will for you. Christ Jesus. First Thessalonians 516. Yes, rejoice always and pray continually and give thanks in all circumstances. A happy Thanksgiving to you. May God bless you in this great American tradition, this beautiful holy day here in America where we give thanks for God's providence on our great land, the greatest country on earth. It's your boy Betty. Happy Thanksgiving. See ya. guess what
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