The Benny Show - FBI Director Kash Makes Shock Announcement On January 6th Pipe Bomber: 'Breakthrough, Stay Tuned...' with Guests Corey Lewandowski, Don Brown and Pastor Joe Harris join the show
Episode Date: November 26, 2025Kash Patel makes announcement on the January 6TH Pipe Bomber, Trump declares Biden’s turkey pardons “invalid” in hysterical thanksgiving ceremony, Corey Lewandowski, Don Brown and Pastor Joe Har...ris join the show Check out our partners: CHEF IQ: Go To: http://www.CHEFiQ.com and use promo code BENNY for 30% off Christian Care: https://www.medishare.com/benny Hallow: Get 3 months free with a subscription at https://hallow.com/benny Patriot Mobile: Go to https://www.PatriotMobile.com/Benny and get A FREE MONTH Advantage Gold: Get your FREE wealth protection kit https://www.abjv1trk.com/F6XL22/4MQCFX/?sub1=Youtube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today is November 26th, 2025,
the day before Thanksgiving.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are excited about it.
We'll do a little Thanksgiving history.
Today on the program, we're also hopefully
going to be making history very soon
by having an announcement on the January 6th,
pipe bomber.
Something that makes us feel like,
makes us feel like Lucy with the football, right?
Isn't that the classic Charlie Brown Thanksgiving episode,
Charlie Brown running through the leaves,
trying to kick the football?
This has been us with the pipe bomber story.
We're like a dog with a bump.
We have asked every person, every powerful person we can get a hold of about this.
We have been doggedly going after this story,
covering the reporting from the blaze.
And then there's updates on that as well this morning
from the FBI updates directly.
from Cashpel, first time we've heard from Cash Patel directly about the pipe bomber.
The answer is pretty remarkable, actually.
So hopefully that will be a holiday miracle because Libs, I'll join you on this one.
That's the J6 terrorist I want to see behind bars.
Isn't that wonderful?
Isn't it a time for us to come together during the holiday season?
Isn't this a time for us to all admit together that that's what we want?
Okay, I'll join you on this one case.
Yes, let's find this one terrorist and put this.
them in jail. And let's find, let's unmas them and find out exactly what the hell was going on
here. Okay. Big news for that on this morning. Trump declares Biden's turkey pardons invalid.
All right. Cory Lewandowski will join the show. Pastor Joe Harris will join the show.
And potentially we're working on a Navy JAG officer and federal prosecutor to talk about
The seditious six, as they are called, we'll see.
Ladies and gentlemen.
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What do we have?
President Trump, Klein, we never looped the song.
Never loop the song.
We never looped the song.
No, no, no, no.
But you got cut off.
You're my DJ, bro. You're my DJ, bro. You got to cut the song off. That's like,
Benny, shut up. That's like, you got to cut it off. So, like, I know how to shut up.
Otherwise, I'll just do that all show. I would actually love to have that all show long.
Do we have Ryan in the, do we have Ryan inside of the warehouse, Klein?
Do we have that clip? Let's make sure that's loaded up every single day.
I want to, I want to be able to play and toss that every single day.
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A lot of people are lying. A lot of people are frauds.
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Klein, you went there.
You went there and filmed like a whole thing.
I have my watch.
Yeah, okay.
Well, just make sure that it's loaded at every single show, please.
Yeah, yeah.
In fact, no, no.
I'm going to wait.
I'm going to wait until it's loaded.
I'm going to wait.
Okay.
Let's let's hold on.
I'm going to wait because it's our last show before the holiday season.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's hop over to the funniest clip from Donald Trump in history
from the White House. Turkey jokes. President Trump makes joke about Biden's invalid turkey
pardons at the White House. I have determined last year's turkey pardons totally invalid
their pardons about every person.
Before going any further, I want to make an important announcement because you remember
last year after a thorough and very rigorous investment.
by Pam Bondi and all of the people at Department of Justice,
the FBI, the CIA, the White House counsel's office,
and the Department of Everything.
We have a Department of Everything.
You know what that is?
I think that's called the White House.
Into a terrible situation caused by a man named Sleepy Joe Biden.
He used an auto pen last year for the Turkey's pardon.
pardon. So I have the official duty to determine, and I have determined that last year's
turkey pardons are totally invalid, as are the pardons of about every other person that was
pardoned other than where's Hunter? No, Hunter's was good. That was the one pardoned, Pam,
that was good, right? The rest of them are all invalid. I don't know what the hell you're going to
do about that, but that's now we're going to take a little of the joking. That is a mess. But
there, hereby null and void, the turkeys known as peach and blossom last year, have been
located, and they were on their way to be processed. In other words, to be killed. But I have stopped
that journey, and I am officially pardoning them, and they will not be served for Thanksgiving dinner.
We saved them in the nick of time. This one has plenty of time, but they were saved in the
nick of time.
All right.
That's hilarious.
And does that man look bothered to you?
This was from yesterday, the turkey pardoning at the White House.
President Trump cracking up the audience, saying that the pardons are invalid, and then naming the turkeys Chuck and Nancy.
Okay, one more clip.
Here we go.
The turkeys being pardoned today go by the names of gobble and waddle.
When I first saw their pictures, I thought we should send them, well,
I was going to, I shouldn't say this.
I was going to call him Chuck and Nancy.
But then I realized I wouldn't be pardoning them.
I would never pardon those two people.
I wouldn't pardon them.
I wouldn't care what Melania told me.
Darling, I think it would be a nice thing to do.
I won't do it, darling.
All right.
I, you know, like, seriously, like, check out the vibes from the White House.
Check in.
Do a vibe check.
I understand that there is good energy in this movement.
We're going to keep that energy moving forward through the holiday season and into 2026.
It's time.
It is certainly a time to fight.
It's a time to be a lot smarter in the way that we govern, right?
I'm specifically looking at Congress.
Congress has been nightmarish in their inability to get anything done.
We're seeing now rumors that there could be more defections, more early,
retirements that Republicans might actually lose the gavel in the house. You might have a split
house. I mean, this is, I mean, we're going to do a whole, a whole series of shows next week on
exactly where that is and start hammering, uh, the house over what the hell's been going on there.
You know, you've had the gavel for years now, but you had the gavel for a full year. Like,
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what the hell is that? But anyway, we're going to.
to leave those sort of heavier topics off the plate right before Thanksgiving. Final funny Donald
Trump moment from the turkey partying yesterday.
Are you ready? Gobble, I just want to tell you this very important. You are hereby unconditionally pardoned.
That's good. Beautiful.
Well, it's nice.
Who'd want to harm this beautiful girl?
That's good, that's good.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much, everybody.
Thank you very much, everybody.
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Why not?
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If it was named Chuck and Nancy would kill it.
Partons are invalid for the last turkeys.
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Pipe bomber.
How many times have we started
the show. It's not really starting the show. We just been sort of like, sort of chatting.
Staten with the chat, which by the way, the chat has been asking for Christmas ornaments.
So we are loading up all of the ornaments into the chat. So if you're using the chat,
YouTube allows, and as far as I know, YouTube is the only platform that allows us to do custom
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Here we go.
First, let's begin.
There are two major things on the pipe bomber that broke yesterday.
And that, you know, we were sort of chatting about what to lead the show with.
And there's not a lot out there right now.
Everyone sort of goes into hibernation before the holidays.
And but there were two major developments.
And since this is something that our, that our show has pretty much been the center of.
And what do I mean by that?
Am I the expert on this?
No, I'm not.
Do I have all the answers?
No, I don't.
But hot damn has Cash Patel.
Well, years ago, Alex, you have that old Cash Patel clip from our show.
I'm sure it'll be easy to get if it's not already in the script.
That old Cash Patel clip, man, from our show, it goes viral every two weeks in this time period.
We have, we, when it, like, when we were risking our careers and our channel by asking these questions, we were still asking these questions.
I'm not going to black pill on this.
I don't feel betrayed.
I just want the answers, okay?
And I'm aware that these are complicated topics.
We saw the Blazes reporting.
We covered the Blazes reporting.
There are updates on the Blazers reporting.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Catch Patel, though, on our show.
Goodness gracious, what was it?
2020?
2022. Again, we were asking these questions when Democrats controlled the House Senate, White House, and they were complete tyrants. And they would come to destroy and to cancel shows that would ask even like cursory questions about January 6th. So we sort of started this ball rolling by asking the future FBI director back when he was just like a homie about the J6 pipe bomber.
Slow that clip up as fast as possible.
I saw it right there in the chat.
You just, you had it.
Yeah.
Didn't we?
No.
Okay.
Was that the Epstein one?
Okay.
Got it.
Okay.
Good.
Quite a few, quite a few old cash per cell clips.
Anyway, that's the purpose of the show.
The purpose of the show is obviously to have people on the record to ask powerful people
about these major issues.
And what Cash told us,
was the way that you figure out the pipe bomber problem
in identity at the FBI
is you just go in and release all the files.
And we agree with that.
That's what we want.
And that's also what will be required
in order to reestablish trust with the American people,
which has been utterly decimated.
And it sounds like for the first,
time, there is a breakthrough in this case. This case is, of course, critically important
and critically instrumental in the understanding of what January 6th was because nothing makes
sense. Nothing makes sense in this pipe bomber story, just off the top of the head. Who was the
pipe bomber on the phone with? Why is the FBI still hiding so much footage of the pipe bomber?
Why was that footage degraded? This is obviously degraded. Why were the pipe bombs
so perfectly identical to the training devices
that the FBI uses for pipe bombs.
Why has no DNA evidence ever been uncovered
by the pipe bomber?
DNA evidence is on everything.
DNA evidence is on obviously something
as complex as a pipe bomb that you put together.
Why has there been no search history
or identity of anyone?
Put forward for this investigation.
Why were their kitchen timers on this pipe bomb?
Those kitchen timers were 60-minute timers.
How could a pipe bomb with a 60-minute timer be set to go off the next day at noon?
18 hours later, that doesn't make, that don't make no sense.
Why were there so many mysteries around the people who discovered the pipe bombs?
A lady doing her laundry.
It's a little weird.
The Secret Service, who discovered the pipe bomb at the DNC,
that were guarding Kamala Harris, that drove Kamala Harris right by the pipe bomb.
And then when they heard that there was a pipe bomb, they sat there and finished their wawah hoagies
in their car. They finished their lunches. Then they got out nonchalantly.
Let little kids walk by the pipe, what a guy walking his dog walk by the, let trains run, let traffic go.
Like there was no urgency at all. Show me that kitchen timer. Put it on screen.
Show me that kitchen timer. What the hell is this?
How about the people who found these pipe bombs being mysteriously connected to Intel agencies?
None of it makes any sense. All of it stinks to high heaven.
No one has actually done any real investigative work on this.
They've burned the files. They've done their level-headed best.
And look, good. I love what you're doing there, Klein. Okay. See? Wow, look. We're doing better investigations than the FBI.
See, wow, look, it's a 60-minute timer.
Well, so why did the pipe bombs go off in 60 minutes when they were placed at midnight?
They were allegedly placed there at the night before.
So why didn't they go off at one in the morning?
They're not particularly sophisticated.
Go back.
Show me.
Look at that.
Wow.
60-minute timer.
So stupid.
it's also dumb they were clearly placed there that afternoon i clearly put there as like a prop
probably found probably placed there by the same people who found them and is also part of like
a massive op it's like and also like look i'm look at how hard they were trying to hide them
look at that klein you know if you really if you want to hide or you really want to like do some
damage you want to like make sure you hide the bomb and then it explodes and it's terrible and
And it really, like, you're trying to inflict really horrible damage.
It's awful.
Make sure you just place it in the middle of the sidewalk.
That's how you do it.
Make sure you put it right on a bench.
There's a real sophisticated operation here.
And here's the final thing I'll say.
As I've, like, thought about this.
If we've covered this for so long, Alex, how long have we been talking about this?
For so long, like one of our first shows when we started the show was on the pipe bomber.
I'd be getting so exhausted with it.
But here's the deal.
So the all idea here was that this is a MAGA bomber.
You know, MAGA's terrorists.
They're terrorists.
The MAGA bomber, you know, ignore the fact that no one in MAGA has ever been violent, ever.
It's not a violent movement.
America First is a movement of love for our nation and the people in it, not hatred.
We want to deport all the criminal aliens, but nonetheless, we don't want to harm anyone.
We don't want to hurt anyone.
We don't want to take anyone's rights.
We certainly don't want to bomb anything.
or anybody that is these are actions exclusively of the left so run that through the brainstem
will you so the maga bomber is so apparently this maga pipe bomber that's a evil donald
trump supporter is placing bombs in the parade path of the stop the steel movement go with me here
So the bomber was trying to bomb MAGA?
Stop yelling.
But you realize how insane this all is?
You don't know how dumb you have to be to even like remotely bite on the official story?
That this is some deranged Trump supporter who wanted to bomb the government.
You know, they're placing the bombs to go off when the MAGA march was going to be marching right through that area.
So they're bombing their own march?
That don't make no.
sense. It doesn't seem really smart. No, it's not smart. It's incredibly stupid and insulting.
And I'm so sick of having to cover the story. I want this bomber found. And I unite.
I link arms with my liberal friends in the holiday spirit and the Christmas spirit.
And I will say, brethren, unite with me. Let us find this single January 6 terrorist together.
Probably 99% of the country
sees this story and goes,
okay, find the terrorists.
Either because they think
it's some insane magabombers,
they're like blue and on,
their brain's been melted by MSNBC.
I don't care, cool.
Or because they're an independent,
they're like placing bombs as bad.
It is.
Or they're like me,
and they know that this is a fed up.
And by finding the actual pipe bomber,
you'll be able to reveal
a much deeper and darker
conspiracy, either by a splinter cell, something that was or wasn't authorized. I have no
idea. I don't know. But you'll be able to reveal that everything that happened on January 6th
wasn't up by the federal government in order to entrap Trump supporters and to put Donald
Trump in prison to prevent him from ever running for president again because of something
called the Insurrection Act. That's what they were trying to do. So they were trying to do it for
four years, that would, that old civil war relic of a law would have prevented Donald Trump
from running for president. It would have disqualified him from running for president.
Anyway, what did ALX find it?
All right. Okay. So we got, I don't think we have time for the old cash clip. I'm sorry,
boys, just spring that one on you. It's the last one I will. Let's do the new one.
okay the new the new pipe bomber clip from cash yesterday katherine herridge does an interview
and asks cash patel about the pipe pump and he says well hold up we've had massive breakthroughs
in the last couple days and you are absolutely going to be hearing from us on this issue
And we are wrapping it up.
Now, this is the most definitive thing
that we've heard from Cash.
Listen to him, say it.
I have a takeaway from this.
Here we go.
In a recent cable news interview with Fox,
you said to stay tuned about the January 6th,
pipe bomber case.
Are there new developments we can discuss?
There are new developments.
Can we discuss them?
Not at this time.
But I think you'll be hearing from us soon on it.
Are you closer to making an arrest?
And when we took over the FBI, we knew there was a renewed interest in a lot of cases of great public importance.
And of course, this one where it was alleged that someone went to the United States Capitol grounds and planted a bomb to possibly blow up,
then Vice President Kamala Harris or other Republicans and other Democrats on Capitol Hill, was one we felt important enough to redouble our investigative tactics.
And that's what we've done.
and like we did in the Comey case
when we made presentations in court
when the American public finds out
the presentations we will be making
if we get to a judicial decision
then they will see how much
was missed in this case
and what we have done
and I hope the American public will realize
our commitment to putting out
as much information as we can
when we can on cases of great public importance
it's been a lot of media reporting
about the pipe bomb
case recently, have there been any significant breakthroughs for the FBI in recent days?
Yes.
Of course, I'd like to have a little bit more, but can you share any more?
Do you expect that there will be a charge before the end of the year?
My job is to protect the integrity of the investigation, and I know that causes a lot of
backlash from some sectors of the online community.
but I'd rather speak through our casework in public
and be able to assure the American public
that we are delivering actual accountability
than just sit here and tell you,
I think we're going to get them.
Has there been breakthroughs in the last few days?
And cash goes, yes.
Do you have a suspect?
Cash goes, watch our.
casework will you be making an announcement to the american people cash goes yes
these are the kind of like listen we know cash it's been he's been on the show i don't personally
not like i travel up to gc all the time and meet with the fbi i haven't seen them since he
actually became fbi director but like it's not dumb you don't make statements like you can't make
statements like this if you then and then go silent for the next four years and bring nothing to
the table. I mean, I guess you can. It would be incredibly ill-advised. So stay tuned. Yes, we have had
breakthroughs. Yes, we will be making a large announcement to the American people. Yes, we have
suspects. And ladies and gentlemen, report that came out a couple of weeks ago. I think it
approximately two weeks ago on who the pipe bomber was from the blaze they had allegedly
identified a person of interest on this pipe bombing security footage that they were using
allegedly there are 39,000 hours of security footage of the I'm sorry 39,000 different
security camera footage is of the pipe bomber.
We've only seen a scintilla of that.
That I do not understand why.
That I don't know why.
But the blaze got a hold of previously unseen footage,
undoctored footage, they said,
and then they alleged that they had found the identity
of the actual pipe bomber,
and that it was a Capitol Hill police officer.
Well, the FBI is out with an official
comment on that
and a story
here in CBS News
sort of breaks it all down.
How an innocent woman's name was tied to January 6
pipe bombs. Let's just go ahead
and read this.
A federal security officer
linked to a thwarted January 6
pipe bomb attack cleared her name
by providing an alibi
video of her playing with her puppies
at the time the devices were placed.
sources sold CBS News. The FBI has now ruled out, ruled her out as a suspect in the 2021 plot,
according to three sources, but only after her name circulated on social media platforms,
the conservative news site. How an innocent woman's name came in to be publicly linked to the
unexploded pipe bombs is a question that raised concern among many senior officials in the Trump
administration. CBS News is not naming the security officer or her workplace. The federal agency
that she protects declined to comment. Multiple sources said the unit overseen by director of national
intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, drafted a memo identifying the woman and describing allegations
that she had placed explosive advice outside of Democrat and Republican national offices.
The memo was written after ODNI was made aware of the allegations from an outside source,
the ODNI spokesperson said. That's interesting. ODI and I officials said,
said that the agency received a tip from a person affiliated with media organization
and potential criminal wrongdoing of an individual believed to be working with an intelligence
agency set about documenting in the memo. This, of course, tracks, obviously, with the Blaze
reporting. A copy of the unfinished memo was given to senior staff security officer's workplace.
It also circulated among a few Trump administration officials building expectations. The
nearly five-year-old case may be solved. But the memo caught the officials at the FBI Justice
Department of White House off guard.
ODI and I oversees the nation's foreign intelligence gathering limited domestic investigative authorities.
The FBI is leading the pipe bomb investigation.
Short time after the unfinished memo began to circulate the conservative news outlet,
The Blaze published similar details to the draft.
So this is very interesting.
This I did not know that the office of the Director of National Intelligence
was planning on releasing a memo.
on this. Fascinating. The Blaze News article used gate analysis software in order to come to
their conclusions and said that it had been confirmed by several sources. Several sources told
CBS News that the classified draft memo, which was on the ODNI letterhead, was written by Paul
McNamara, who was in charge of Gabbard's director's initiative group, which is tasked with providing
transparency and accountability. We're huge fans of Tulsi Gabbard. We hope that she's involved
in this, obviously. Spokesperson Olivia Coleman says ODI and I followed his obligation to report
information received concerning alleged activities and members of the intelligence community
and persons employment agency. A whistleblower came forward with the allegation. Odie and I
documented the accusations and lawfully reporting it, reported it. Okay.
The bomb planting incidents is one of the lingering mysteries surrounding the events on the Capitol, January 6th, nearly five years since the pipe bombs were placed.
No suspect has been arrested or identified in an absolute humiliation to federal law enforcement.
The FBI said the bombs were viable, but they did not detonate.
Well, where are the bombs today?
Have we ever scraped them for any DNA evidence?
Kind of hard to make a pipe bomb without like DNA, not like I've ever tried, but like you have to assume that if you're going to make a pipe bomb,
You're going to leave some DNA evidence on it.
CBS News was not shown the memo,
but Sources says McNamara had accessed confidential files
to obtain details about the woman in the draft memo,
including her place of work.
Gabbard, top Odi and I official,
has since distanced herself from the memo,
telling senior officials the information about the woman spread
without her knowledge while Gabbard was traveling abroad.
ODI and I officials said that the draft memo
hadn't been reviewed or proved by agency leadership.
Sources said that the situation and others
were viewed internally by some seniors
administration officials that interfering with areas beyond their purview, Axios reported in September
the Justice Department officials believed OD&I had hindered their case against former CIA director
John Brennan. Goodness. New York Times in October reported that OD and I had accessed FBI investigative
files related to Charlie Kirk's assassination and search for evidence of conspiracies and potentially
undermine the government's case against the alleged assassin. Goodness gracious. So what you're seeing
here is just the age old federal bureaucracies in intelligence agencies fighting against each
other. This has been going on for a very long time. It continues to this day. Federal security
officers cooperated with the FBI sources close to the matter said her lawyer. Her lawyer said
publicly that she's done nothing wrong, but the woman and her lawyer declined to comment.
So that is the update, ladies and gentlemen, on the reporting. So what do we do in this situation like this?
it's exactly what I'm going to do with Charlie Kirk
obviously like a far more personal
but of extreme importance just like this case
I am going to take a very deep breath
and I'm going to let the filings speak for themselves
I'm going to be an agitator on the outside
and this audience will be an agitator on the outside
for total and complete transparency.
I am going to do my level-headed best
to not engage in unfounded theories.
I'm not even going to call them conspiracy theories
because everything's just a theory
until we see the actual proof.
What was released in the JFK files
was proof that the CIA was involved in JFK's assassination.
We have that for the first time in 70 years.
That was released.
That was given to us.
We now have proof of it.
It's good.
A lot of people have asked a lot of questions.
A lot of people have done.
great reporting. It's nice to just have the documents, just show people. Because these things
have such recency to them, I'm going to try and pray for the patience of Job while publicly
airing my frustration, as I have done on Pierce Morgan show, on a podcast with Tommy Lerrin, on
podcasts across the industry and space. I've lost count. Megan Kelly show yesterday, saying that I am
not satisfied with the Charlie Kirk investigation. No, I'm not. And I've been public about that.
That's me efforting from the outside for absolute and total, pure and complete transparency
of every facet of that murder. And we need the exact same thing on January 6th,
pipe bomber. Same thing with Epstein. That is the way to reestablish trust.
I will say this before we play the cash tell clip, and I know we're jumping over to
to Corey Lewandowski here in just one second.
Who's going to know a lot about all of this.
But Charlie Kirk was murdered in cold blood on a live stream.
The judge in that case is trying to ban live cameras from the court so that we can't watch the trial.
He's already saying that Tyler Robinson can appear in plain clothes, doesn't have to be in handcuffs.
You're not allowed to film Tyler Robinson.
You're allowed out of the film, the accused face of the accused, his reactions, his actions.
I mean, at this point, we won't be able to see anything from the trial.
The whole thing will happen in secret.
That is a unspeakable evil that is totally and completely unacceptable, unacceptable,
indefensible.
Charlie was killed on a live stream.
We deserve to see his trial live.
Every bit of evidence,
every bit of DNA,
every bit of text messages,
backgrounders,
emails,
the transgender boyfriend,
where the hell is he?
Why has he disappeared?
Better be in witness protection
and go up there on the stand
and say like a canary and say everything.
Hopefully get charged.
But what do I know?
And if there was a larger plot or a larger conspiracy, then we need to know about it.
I'm trying my level-headed best to simply stay in that lane.
Let the filing speak for themselves, be patient, and let the cases develop.
Cash Patel was asked yesterday directly about this.
Was there foreign involvement in Charlie's killing?
Did a nation state do this?
These are some of the earlier rumors that popped up from,
well-connected sources about Charlie's killing.
And Cash had an answer, and here it is.
On the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation,
you testified recently that more than 20 people
were on the Discord chat related to the suspect, Tyler Robinson.
Have you spoken to those people?
Is it now a larger universe of 20 people?
Well, so with the Charlie case,
it's a matter that is being led
by the state authorities in Utah because it is a homicide investigation that is being prosecuted
by the state. So us as the FBI are partners and part of that prosecution team were not the lead
and it's very much ongoing. So there is a lot of legal process being doled out and we are committed
to issuing every piece of legal process and search route that we can to talk to absolutely everyone
and anyone who had anything to do with the assassination of my friend. And we're going to
continue to do that and also honor the prosecutor's wishes and how we do that and what we release
publicly. Respecting that it is an ongoing investigation, is there any evidence of foreign involvement?
Is there any evidence that Tyler Robinson had helped? Again, that will be spoken through by
the prosecutors. If I, as the FBI director, commented on that right now in any way, shape,
or form, that would hurt their case. And the worst thing that can happen is the individual who's
charged and has his day in court down the road is if we, the FBI, or another law enforcement
agency improperly commented on evidence and gave the defense an unfair advantage during the trial.
Cash gave the exact same answer about Epstein. Maybe we'll be able to play you that clip later
in the show. For now, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to hop over to our guests in just one
minute, I, you know, I got like, Cori Lewandowski is a law enforcement professional. So I'm
going to ask him about this. But there's somebody who I really trust, who is somebody who I would
trust with my life, frankly. And for good reason, in the federal government and federal law
enforcement. And I asked them about this answer. And they said, listen, this is why you don't
have all the Epstein documents. This is why you don't have all the Charlie Kirk documents and
evidence. There are ongoing trials. There are ongoing trials right now that involve Jeffrey Epstein,
his estate, Jeline Maxwell, her probation, her whatever, you know, she's in prison. And all of this
evidence gets put under lock by these judges because it's currently in use in a trial. And it is
to be presented to the jury in those trials in a way that the prosecution and the defense
wish to present it, not in the media.
When you present something in the media, you can make it inadmissible, you can taint
the jury, you can lose a case based on doing that.
And so that was what was explained to me about not only Epstein evidence, but also the
Charlie Kirk evidence.
I guess it stands to reason.
It's very frustrating.
It makes me pissed off.
But it stands to reason.
I can accept it.
I can't accept it in the case of Thomas Crooks.
I mean, what the hell?
I can't accept it in the case of Thomas Crooks.
because there is no trial.
Thomas Crooks is dead.
And we're finding out a bunch of, like,
brand new evidence about Thomas Crooks,
all this background on them.
So that I do not, that I will not permit.
And that I will not, like, allow because that I don't get.
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Corey Lewandowski, joining the show live right now.
Corey, welcome back to the program.
Looks like you are built for performance here.
Good, a Mercedes AMG shirt there, bro.
The F-1 race, Benny.
I was at the F-1 race this weekend in Vegas.
It was amazing.
What's up, man?
That's awesome.
Okay, so, yeah, all right.
You were in Vegas.
Vegas was the location of a very strange and unexplained shooting that happened in Trump's first term.
And now there's a strange and unexplained shooting that happened President Trump in 2024 with Thomas Crooks.
Now, I know that DHS has some major involvement in that.
Obviously, DHS is over Secret Service and is over Homeland Security, investigations, and so on.
There were a lot of people who were commenting based on Tucker's reporting on Thomas Crooks and some of his
messages online, that maybe the federal government is withholding information from us on Thomas
Crooks, who he was, who he was communicating with, and so on. You know, since that's, since there's
no trial going on and he's dead, that I, it begs the question, why haven't we got all the
information on Thomas Cruss? Like, just everything, even if it is like his creepy porn habits or
the fact that he, you know, was into furry stuff or used pronouns, like, why, why not get that
from the federal government, you know, instead of, you know, people leaking to independent
sources. Well, Benny, let me say, I have had the chance not to review the documents directly,
but I have spoken to director Sean Curran at the Secret Service, who turned over all of the
information and the investigation to the FBI. And I've spoken to Cash Patel about this as well,
because I think the American people deserve transparency, whether it's the pipe bomber that you
talked about, who I guess, you know, is busy with their dogs. And so, you know, now the video of
the dog has exonerated them or this instance, look, the American people deserve the opportunity
to know what's going on, particularly when there's a potential assassination attempt, either against
the President of the United States or an actual assassination attempt against our friend Charlie Kirk
and a successful one. So what we deserve is the right to know the truth. I believe that there
are continuing investigations as it relates to Charlie's individual. That is an ongoing investigation.
Cash has said that now being led by the state of Utah. As it relates specific,
to the attempt of assassination on Butler, Pennsylvania.
I believe the president has been briefed fully by the FBI, by the Secret Service.
He has agreed that the information they have provided him has been full and total and transparent,
and he is very satisfied with the conclusion of this investigation,
which is there was one individual involved.
There was no outside entity involved, no outside authorization, no outside money,
no outside world government involved.
And so the president believes that.
and if he believes it, it is good enough for me.
Yep.
So, I mean, totally.
And I mean, you know, I'm not necessarily alleging that, you know, what I, I guess what
I'm getting at is like, here's a great photo.
This is Thomas Crooks, minutes before he shoots my president in the head, kills members of
our community, the America First MAGA movement.
Here he is on the phone.
I mean, he's on the phone with someone or he's looking at something.
And it seems like in order to get all of the information out to the American people, it
good to like what the hell was he searching for here you know why did he use they them pronouns
who was he in communication with um you know where did he learn how to make these bombs and how to
you know how to shoot he was training at a rifle range that was also being used by homeland
security police right for training like was there ever any you know crossover there right like was
was there ever any you know was there did he get any ideas um you know that that's the kind of stuff
like a like a drug test for instance like was he on anything was he on any medications um
was he on any type of something that would fry his brain you know if he's using day them pronouns
was he on hormone blockers you know kind of kind of thing like that's i guess what i'm asking
for right here's what happens and i understand it right uh an assailant is murdered
killed because our good guys the good guy shot him immediately
And look, there was a lot of questions. Don't forget when the military went in and killed Osama bin Laden, right? They went in and they immediately disposed with the body. When things like that happened, it causes the American people to say, why? Why don't we have information? How can we don't know what actually transpired? I will tell you I have complete confidence in FBI under Cash Patel's leadership in Sean Curran's leadership at the U.S. Secret Service. Look, would we have rather had the opportunity, in my opinion, to put this individual on trial for the attempted assassination of President.
and Trump to get all the information of who he talked to, what he did and what his motivations
were. Of course, although there is a part of me, Benny, that says swift justice, an eye for an eye
is just a better justice in this particular case. So I think what we're going to see in the assassination
attempt of the assassination of Charlie Kirk is we're going to see an individual being tried who
probably is never going to take the stand, who's never going to testify. And I think you'll see a
level of frustration that we know this individual did it. There's no question in my mind that
he killed Charlie. The question is, why did he do it? And I don't know if he'll ever get those
answers. Right. I guess I'd just like, I guess in a world where there's been a broken down
trust. And I say this on the show all the time, Corey. You guys didn't break the machine.
You know what I mean? Like it was broken for generations before for four or five, 10 administrations
that have slowly eroded the trust in American institutions.
And I know there's something very personal of the president, obviously,
where it comes to like him getting hit in the head with a bullet.
And so I can't even fathom, you know, that this is President Trump's decision, right?
And he's making his own decision on this, probably with the release of this information.
But it helps restore the trust when all of the evidence is just sort of presented to the American people.
And I just want to encourage that because that's how you actually restore trust on these
on these issues when you just when you get you know when that's handed over it happened with the
jfk files right like with the jfk files and you guys had a part in that it's just like it's a pressure
release valve right where people like oh thanks you know and it also gives sort of the online internet
sleuth something to do right instead of standing around being frustrated so well you're right and listen
when the government hides things let me just point you to the fake russia collusion narrative right
Thank you.
Yes.
Clapper and Brennan.
These guys literally made this up whole cloth with the advice and consent of the former
president of the United States, Barack Obama.
We know that that meeting took place in the Oval Office.
We know that Hillary Clinton was involved in this.
They made the whole thing up and they hid it from the American people.
And every time an outlet asked them a question, they made us sound like we were stupid.
Like we didn't have the right to even question them, only to find out that the whole thing
was made up.
I knew it was made up.
I was there every single day.
But when you question the leadership of,
some of these law enforcement agencies, the comies, the clappers, the Brennan's,
they are just so incensed that you would ever question their credibility.
They don't want to talk about the fake letter that was signed as it related to the Hunter
Biden laptop that we know is completely made up.
They don't want to talk about the fake Russia collusionary.
And that's why there is a massive distrust in some of these government agencies
because they have lied to us time and time and time again and thought that they were above
the law.
And finally, only now under this administration are some of those people being held
accountable, but it's not enough.
Corey, I swear I don't like have Tara book you, uh, just on pipe bomber days.
I swear I don't.
Okay.
I know we had it.
I know it's a total coincidence, but you're, you have a decades long law enforcement
pedigree.
Um, this has been extremely frustrating to us and our audience.
We just played the cash fatel, the brand new clip from cash fatale.
It's only a few hours old of him saying, listen, we, we have had major breakthroughs in the
few days on this and you're going to be hearing from us very soon. You're going to be seeing
filings very soon. There's going to be public announcements very soon on this. Can you give us any
information on that? Do you do you have any idea where this investigation actually looks like?
The chief insults to us as viewers and as members of this movement, Corey, is that they were able
to find every grandmother who even waved an American flag that day. And they were able to let the
single terrorist, something that I'm sure you and I both agree is a literal terrorist walk free.
And that's very frustrating.
Well, it goes to show you when you have a government that has an objective, which is to go
after every person who is anywhere near the Capitol within 20 miles, whether they were,
you know, supporting their own free speech or deciding to do something else.
The federal government used every resource available to go after every grandmother,
every grandfather, every veteran, every citizen who is out there saying, hey, you used your,
you know, your bank card 14 miles away.
we're going to come and question you, and they use every resource available.
But now what we've seen in Washington, D.C., is literally a person in the nation's capital,
just steps from the capital itself, placing pipe bombs.
And we don't have that person brought to justice in a city which is riddled with cameras
and oversight and supposed to be one of the safest cities in America.
And so, look, I do think we're going to find a resolution to this.
And it's amazing to me that, you know, some video footage was released by this agent who was playing
with their dogs. They go, well, okay, I guess I exonerate you as if AI has never been used before
to manipulate something that maybe we've seen. So listen, I think Cash and the FBI have to run down
every single lead. I hope they come back to us very quickly because this is a very, very serious
threat that a person with a hoodie goes in place a pipe bomb and then sees what seems to be,
Benny, a police car drive by and just kind of waves nonchalantly to them like they know who it is.
And look, I'm not making any assertions here or not.
But look, if I'm out doing bad things and I see a police car go by,
the last thing I'm trying to do is draw attention to myself
would be my mentality, my methodology.
So I'd try to be low-key if I was doing that, not that I would.
But that's obviously.
This person seems to be relishing in the fact that a police car is going by
and they're drawing attention to themselves.
Very, very odd.
They're saying that the pipe moms with a 60-second timer on them
were set to explode right around when the March began the next day at 1 p.m.,
I remember January 6th, very plainly.
I was sitting in the front row at Trump's speech.
First off, that's impossible.
How can you set a 60-second timer to go off 18 hours later?
But most importantly, like, why would a MAGA bomber be bombing the MAGA parade?
Like, this was exactly the time when, like, tons of MAGA supporters were supposed to be right in the circumference of the Capitol.
So that makes no sense.
Like, they're trying to bomb their own movement.
What the hell is it?
And, Benny, that's a level of sophistication.
that the average person would not have, okay?
Somebody is going to make a pipe bomb.
Look, they usually, without speaking, you know, in a classified format,
they usually relatively rudimentary, okay?
Someone goes online, Googles the information,
finds out the basic of it,
and then they go and build it on their own.
From what they're now telling us,
is this was a very sophisticated pipe bomb.
This person could not only elude detection of every camera in Washington, D.C.,
places leave no DNA evidence anywhere,
but then set this thing for 12 or,
18 hours later with precision, and we're only fortunate that we caught it before it ever went off.
So listen, this is either a person who's incredibly sophisticated or somebody isn't telling us
the truth on what's really going on here. Yeah. Well, I join you, Corey, in praying for total
and complete transparency on this, on Thomas Crooks, on Epstein. I think that that's the obvious
demands of the American people. So also an like historic opportunity to restore trust, frankly,
that's been eroded.
And again, I'm like, I try and be as fair as possible.
You know, you guys own the, you guys own the car now.
You guys have the keys.
But this trust has been destroyed over, over my entire life.
You know, I'm nearly, you know, I'm 39 years old.
And my entire life, this stuff has been atomized by a bunch of degenerates and a bunch
of idiots who've, like, been in these positions and lie to the American people.
And so it's just, like, it'd be really incredible to see just moments of extreme transparency here
on these major issues.
Okay, so Heritage Foundation.
I wanted to ask you about this.
This dude at the Heritage Foundation
comes forward, his name is Mike Howell,
and he says that the Trump administration
has fallen short of his promise for mass deportation,
and he notes that there has not been
any purposeful, large-scale workplace raids
on farms, restaurants, hotels
in order to appease the interest of employers,
And then he says that DHS has had intentional gaps in their enforcement and undisclosed deportation data.
And so he says there needs to be a major increase in deportation operations, Republicans risk betraying their constituents.
I wanted to get your response to this, obviously, as this is something that you're deeply involved in.
Yeah, Benny, I don't know who this no-name slob is, but he obviously,
has no understanding of what is going on every single day. Okay. I don't know who this guy is.
He's completely irrelevant. But what I will tell you is that under the president's administration,
Donald Trump's administration, two million people have already self-deported. And over 500,000
individuals who are in this country illegally have been arrested, detained, and deported.
And Benny, listen, there's a story out today. I just want to touch on. It says that a relative
to Caroline Levitt, the press secretary to the president of the United States,
was detained by ICE and is now going through a deportation process.
Because I will tell you, we offer no quarter to anybody who is in this country illegally.
It doesn't matter who you are related to.
It doesn't matter who you are friends with.
If you are in this country illegally and you have a criminal record, we will find you,
we will apprehend you, and we will deport you, period, end of conversation.
So whoever this genius is over at the Heritage Foundation doesn't know what we're doing,
doesn't know that ICE is on path by the end of December.
less than 30 days to have 10,000 new officers on duty every day.
We are on mission.
We are on point.
If you don't think what we're doing makes the community safer,
look at Los Angeles, look at Chicago, look at Charlotte,
look at the places where we have done large scale operations.
And you have to also remember this.
The attacks on our ICE officers and CBP officers,
the threats and violence against them is up over 1,000% over this time last year.
Not because they're sitting back on their laurels doing nothing.
is because they're out in the communities every day.
The Latin Kings, a vicious, brutal gang,
has put bounties on the heads of our law enforcement agents.
So whoever this genius is that's making these false accusations,
I'd love to have him come and do a ride along
and see what's really like to actually put your life on the line
as opposed to sit behind the desk and be another keyboard warrior.
I've done a number of those, and it's been eye-opening, in fact.
I've really appreciated the opportunity to do that
because, well, you can't really experience.
It's kind of like going to a war zone, frankly.
You can't really experience it unless you've seen it,
up close. And so I've been on these raids. And, you know, it's why ice agents are constantly
in my prayers. And I watched Christy Nome actually pray for ice agents there in Portland. And they
needed it. I wanted to put up the Chicago. I just want to remind the viewers. You always was in
Chicago when they went out and Chief Bovino went into that crowd. And if you remember, he got
hurt that day, right? He was on the ground because he was leading his men and women there at the
Chicago ICE detention facility. So this is not for the weak of hearts, not for the faint of
These men and women are on the front lines every single day trying to make our community safer.
So, you know, it's not an easy job.
And so thank a cop if you ever get the chance.
That's exactly right.
Here we go.
The foreign-born population has decreased dramatically.
We see that in the employment numbers and then here in the Center for Immigration Studies by 2.2 million.
First time we've seen a decrease like ever.
And this is obviously in part because of the enforcement.
So, okay, forgive me, Corey.
Got a bunch of little kids, and they are all sick this time of year.
So I'm glad we do the show remotely, frankly.
What about the people who say there's not enough mass deport?
Okay, so there's not enough mass deportation.
We want more mass deportations.
And this is clearly something that is complicated and that has been blocked by a lot of judges.
Nobody's saying that it's easy, but can you vision cast for us?
where, Corey, is this headed, right?
Like, so everyone saw how you solved traffic in L.A.
And in Charlotte, that's a miracle.
Well done.
Where is this, where is it headed?
Where is this chart going?
Where are the deportation charts going?
You just said, did you say 10,000 new ICE agents by December?
That's right.
So let me tell you where we are, Benny.
First and foremost, what people don't remember is we had the worst, poorest border
under the previous administration that this country has ever seen in.
three months, that border is sealed. And over the last six months, we have zero. And I mean
zero individuals coming into this country because we have operational control of the border.
So that's a massive difference. So now as we've controlled our borders, we've sealed off
our borders, we have the opportunity to go and do this enforcement on the interior of our
country. And we're using CBP and ICE to do that. And we're targeting the worst of the worst,
the pedophiles, the rapists, the gang members, the MS-13, Trenda-Raguas, etc. And they know
we're coming for them. So they're leaving voluntarily because we've told everybody if we find you and
we deport you, you will never come back. But we will not let up. I think that by the end of this first
year in office, by January 20th of 2026, we will see north of three million total people. That's
the self-deportations and the ones that we have deported leave this country for the first time in
American history. We have an outbound migration because people understand what's happening. And we have
the top cover from the President of the United States to say to the men and women on the front lines,
you can go do your job. So you will see that. Now, what we hear, Benny, all the time. Hey, this guy's
been working me for 15 years, 20 years. We can't find American workers. I say, when you have taken
jobs away from the American people to subsidize them for the people who are in this country
illegally, let me propose something to you, Mr. Business Owner. Why don't you put your personal
liability up for that individual who's in the country illegally, which means,
if they commit a crime, you're responsible.
They commit a felony, you're responsible.
They commit something, you're responsible.
You put your financial resources up.
If you're so confident that this is the right person,
and to an individual, to a business owner,
I have never had one tell me that they're willing to put up their home
or their family savings or their livelihood
to go and support an illegal who they say is imperative
for their success of their business.
So go hire Americans.
We have the greatest workforce here in this country
that the world has ever seen.
but when you're subsidizing and allowing individuals to work for your company at a cheaper rate
because you don't want to pay your fair share, shame on you.
Yes.
Final question on this, and thank you for your generous time, Corey.
What can be done about employers?
So I'm reading this, you know, I'm reading this Heritage Foundation Fellow or whatever, go after DHS.
And what he's what he's talking about is he's talking about these large-scale businesses
that hire hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands.
of criminal aliens.
What the hell is that, Corey?
Certainly there can be a way
through Department of Labor.
Certainly, there are laws on the books
that says you can't do that,
but am I,
am I that naive?
Like, how is this even allowed to happen?
You're spot on.
The construction sites in Charlotte,
sorry to interrupt,
the construction sites in Charlotte,
all being empty.
Like, my God, like,
all of the students are,
are illegals,
all the students are illegal aliens.
All the construction workers
in Charlotte are illegal aliens.
All the drivers in Charlotte,
in Charlotte are illegal aliens? What the hell is going on, Corey? You're spot on because for years,
decades even, there's never been an enforcement mechanism for these businesses. So if they can pay
someone under the minimum wage and not get caught with it, they were willing to take the chance.
This is the first time in a generation, if not our lifetime, that there's actually a president
willing to enforce those laws. So what we do all the time as a department is we go to these companies
and say, we want a list of every I-9 that you have for the people who work for you. And most of the
time, if not always, they turn them over voluntarily because it gives us the opportunity to then
verify that the people who are working there are either legal or illegal. And if they are illegal,
we tell these business owners, we're going to come back. I'm going to do a workforce enforcement
raid. I'm going to take all these people out. Or you can turn them over. It's completely up
to you. And you wouldn't believe it. You wouldn't believe how many business owners are saying,
please don't raid my business. Here are the people who've been working for me illegally.
Let me give you the addresses. And not just that. What?
we're seeing, Benny, across the board is through a number of technologies that we have,
the abuse as it relates to marriage fraud and fraud for services that these individuals are
permeating. So we're seeing about 35% of the illegal aliens in this country are also defrauding
the government for some type of service, whether it's welfare or social security or something
else. So we finally have a holistic of government approach that allows the U.S. CIS to work with
CBP that works with ICE, that works with everybody across the board to go out and prevent this from
happening. And our country is being fundamentally transformed for the better and will be even better
going forward. I mean, you love to see it. It seems like a pretty obvious if you can't get work,
the whole purpose of this is economic migration and then to send remittances home to their home country
to steal money, to take money out of America and send it back to Guatemala or Honduras or wherever, Somalia.
If you can't do that, then the problem's going to solve itself eventually.
And so it seems like employment crackdown is like the obvious way to do this.
It's a lot easier than rounding people up in Walmart parking lots.
But what do I know, you know?
When we hit L.A., the traffic went down about 25% because the illegals were afraid to come out.
Okay. There is nowhere we will not go to keep the American people safe. So if that's what it takes to reduce the traffic, which is to make sure ICE is on every corner or we've got enforcement happening all over the place, we will continue to do that because the American people deserve it and they voted for it.
What about, what about Minneapolis? So here's this shocking report. Here's a shocking report about the Somalis. I'm just going to pop it up on screen and let you respond to it. But like it's talking about how billions of dollars of.
fraud has gone to pay for Muslim terrorists in Somalia.
And this is obviously clearly like they straight up are egregious in their defrauding of the
system and using the autism reports and federal funds and local funds.
And they sent it back in bags of cash to go fund Muslim terrorism in Somalia.
What's going to happen in Minneapolis?
us. Well, Benny, if you let me not get out in front of what our plan is, I would appreciate
that. I will tell you this. You are not the first to raise this issue. It will not be the last to
raise this issue. But I think in the coming days and weeks, you will see a dramatic change
in posture in that community because this is clearly a major story that requires intervention
to fix the problem. And so I don't want to get too far in front of this thing. But if you're doing
something illegally and you're in that community or you're in that state, I would recommend
yourself to pour. Go to the CBP home app and get the hell out of the country.
Really quickly, since we're on the topic, I wasn't planning on asking about this, but in the first
administration, I had people that worked at DHS. I was very close with, and they since moved on
to consulting and whatever. But they said that there is like, there is bona fide proof that Ilhan
Omar committed fraud and multiple layers of fraud and independent reporting.
from the Daily Mail, The Guardian and others have confirmed this that Ilhan Omar was in fraudulent
marriages and that she was trying to do end around immigration policies and so on.
Anyway, it's practically a meme at this point. The president posts about it quite often.
Is DHS ever going to like do a proper investigation into this? Or should we ever expect anything?
Ilhan Omar to ever have to answer to these allegations? Will they ever become charges,
you know, like? So again, I don't want to comment on a potential investigation because it'll
probably put me in the jackpot and I get in enough trouble on my own when I'm on your show.
Just think of bad bunny. Okay. So, so what I what I say is we have to let the process play out a
little bit, right? I mean, look, I made the bad money story, Benny on your show and all of a sudden,
like the world explodes. If you're not on, if you're not on T.
after being on my show, then we haven't done it right.
Yeah.
That's true.
And unfortunately, I think they know where I live.
So I will say, I don't want to get out in front of an investigation.
I do know, as you have, again, articulated, there's been a lot of concern and consternation
about some of the stories of it out in the public.
Some of them, as you know, are false and have to get run down.
But some of them do have a sense of truth to them.
And it's our obligation to go and investigate any potential crime and make sure that if you
are committing crimes in this country, you're held accountable.
Because as we've heard many times when Donald Trump was being investigated, nobody is above the law.
Not Adam Schifty Schiff, nobody, not Ilihan Omar.
Nobody's above the law.
So we're going to apply the law equally to everybody.
All right.
So you're saying there's a chance.
Okay.
Great.
So you're saying there's a chance.
Dumb and dumber.
All right.
Final thing, Corey, final thing to get you to react to because it's something near and dear to your heart that just broke while you were saying your last answer.
brand new, fresh off the presses, breaking news, Georgia prosecutor drops all charges against
President Trump and others.
I know many of your, many of your and my friends, mutual friends like Rudy Giuliani,
in the 2020 election fraud case.
So since you just mentioned it, it's perfect, no one is above the law, your response to
this, Corey.
My response was this was a weaponized abuse of power against.
people that they didn't like Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, David Schaefer, the former chairman
of the Republican Party in Georgia, so many others who were out just making inquiries.
And so this is a slight validation, a slight validation. But just think of what these people
had to go through. Some people were losing their law licenses. People lost their homes because
of this. And what I want to see is justice. And I mean that, Benny, in the positive sense,
you know, every time Donald Trump articulates, maybe going after somebody, the left comes up and says,
oh, you're weaponizing the Justice Department.
Where were they three years ago, four years ago, five years ago, when everybody who was
involved with questioning the outcome of the 2020 election was being indicted or brought in
for a grand jury having to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend themselves.
So this is a positive step, but it's much too little, much too late, and it never should
have happened in the first place.
These people were just asking questions, and this was the weaponization of another district
attorney like we saw in New York, and now we've seen in Georgia, finally getting
resolved. I mean, I guess it's nice to see the conclusion here that we all wanted, but you're
exactly right. It's, it's years too late. And the tens of millions of dollars that have been spent
on these frauds, I mean, the process is the punishment. So anyway, we'd love to see that applied
to Ilhan Omar. So just the thought, yeah, happy to send you her, her marriage documents.
Corey, I know, I know your number. I'll text them to you after the show. Here's Corey Lewandowski,
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absolute and total barn burner for the administration. He's a man who's worked with President
Trump for the better part of decades at this point and is the architect of the bag of movement.
He has 600,000 subscribers here on X. You should be one of them. Thank you, Corey. Happy Thanksgiving.
Ladies and gentlemen, that interview went a little bit long because we were getting our next guest set.
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Don Brown, who is a JAG, former Navy JAG lawyer and federal prosecutor on the program to talk about insurrection.
Oh, yes, the brand new one that Democrats are trying.
right now against Trump. Let's go to Don Brown.
Don, welcome. Welcome to the program, man.
Thanks, man. Happy Thanksgiving. That was a, even though the segment went a little long,
I was enjoying that great segment with Corey. And I'm in Charlotte right now, by the way,
just to follow up. And it's true. The traffic disappeared. And I'll tell you something else.
We came down at the end of day one. I was speaking in Greensboro, and we got news that Border Patrol
it comes. We went down to First World Park, and we got there almost sunset as the TV cameras
were sort of breaking. The first thing we saw these young folks in their 20s, kind of like you,
I know, you're a little older than that, but you know, younger types running around with
shirts that said socialism is the answer, and who paid for that. And the other thing that's
an interesting little tidbit is that I had a routine matter at the Department of Motor Vehicles
this week, and just to go in and make a little change and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
I got in and out within 25 minutes and all the sort of bonus points that we get from the Board Patrol being here.
So I know you haven't asked me any questions yet, but I thought you might find that fascinating.
I do find it fascinating.
We have said quite regularly on this program that every problem that you have in American society right now
could be alleviated and ameliorated with mass deportations.
Whether it is packed classroom sizes, the prices at the grocery store,
the prices of gas, the prices of a home, or traffic on your street or crime on your sidewalks,
all of them can be solved with mass deportations. That is the answer. And Charlotte's proving it right now.
And Charles became a hub for sex trafficking and fentanyl trafficking as a result of the borders being open.
Now, the borders being shut. But we still got to get these folks out. All these families who've lost their sons and daughters
to accidental overdoses, losing more Americans in one year to fentanyl,
and 10 years of the Vietnam War is it's atrocious.
So I applaud the administration and I'm hoping to see him keep it up.
I know that he will.
So step in the right direction.
I agree with you.
I think getting into the to the businesses is probably the most efficient way of identifying
a lot of these folks who are taking American jobs.
We've got to get our jobs back.
So I didn't mean to go off track, but agree with that all.
Not at all.
The data backs you up, obviously.
I mean, the maps speak for themselves, right?
This is like, thank ICE.
If you're in the Charlotte area,
Thank ICE for your Thanksgiving holiday traffic alleviation and holiday travel capacity around the Charlotte area, if that is where you live.
Okay. So, Don, this is your first time on the show. You are a former Navy JAG officer. You served at the Pentagon.
You were also a former special U.S. assistant attorney. And so I wanted to talk with you. You had sort of a person.
perfect pedigree to talk about this fascinating video that is from the seditious six,
as they have been called by Pete Hig Seth.
And in this video, we don't need to play the whole thing or any of it other than to
effectuate that what they are doing is declaring that members of the military and Intel
services stop following orders from the commander chief and from the Pentagon.
And we've read American law and we've read some of the military law live on air.
It doesn't seem legal.
It doesn't seem something that is smart to do.
And it seems very insurrection-y to us.
But we're not the experts.
Don, you are.
So what's your take on this?
Well, first off, let's be clear.
The commander-in-chief, the president of the United States has the constitutional authority
to protect American lives and property on the high seas.
It goes all the way back to Thomas Jefferson with the Barbary Wars when he sent the Navy and the Marine Corps into the Mediterranean when the Barbary Powered for attacking American shipping.
Abraham Lincoln seized the RMS trend, a British mail ship because they had a Confederate sympathizer.
And Franklin Roosevelt issued shoot-on-kill orders to the Navy in the Atlantic before Pearl Harbor when we were protecting convoys against German U-boats.
Of course, Reagan sent troops into Grenada, George H.W. Bush into Panama, and even Bill Clinton issued a naval blockade of Haiti. So it is constitutionally proper for the president of the United States. Under his authority, his commander and chief to protect Americans in the high seas. Now, listen, these dingbat Democrats know about as much of the Constitution or the UCMJS. I know about speaking manner or Chinese. They know nothing. The issue with Mark Kelly, he's a Navy captain, and the UCM.
which is the, which is the criminal code for the military, adopted and signed in 1950 by President Eisenhower, passed by the Congress, allows Mark Kelly and anyone else who is a retiree to be brought back up, investigated and prosecuted for violations of the UCMJ, and there are about five or six here.
So I'm glad to see my friend Pete Hedgeseth take action here. I hope that we're going to see more substantive action. It is the height of their responsibility.
Look, they're putting American lives in danger by encouraging sailors.
and Marines and airmen and not to follow orders,
it's the most despicable thing I've seen
and many of despicable things
that Democrats have done for political gain.
So since you were a JAG lawyer,
I mean, we've all seen a few good men, right?
Like, I'm sure you were Tom Cruise.
Well, yeah, you consider it resemblance, right, many?
I mean, I get mixed up all the time with Tommy, you know.
That's right. I can say, you know, I can see it, man.
I'm going to be.
Everybody about that.
You're going to be in the next mission impossible, bro.
go ahead there's got to be like you know could you could you break it down like you would for a very trusted
and very loyal labrador somebody who doesn't know the military code probably frontwards and backwards
like you right what what what military code laws were broken what would charges look like against
mark kelly for instance center from arizona uh in this case like how would you prosecute this case
Okay, first off, because Mark Kelly is retiree and as the Navy captain is entitled to pay, not every veteran can be called back for prosecution, but retirees can.
So Article 2 of the UCMJ allows us to call him back to investigate and for violating the UCMJ.
There are about six different articles.
The one that comes to mind first is Article 94, which prevents mutiny and sedition.
Sedition basically is when a member of the armed forces or retiree encourages the disobedience of civilian authority.
And, of course, Article 2 of our Constitution makes the president of the commander-in-chief.
You can't do that.
It's just not just Article 94, but Article 88 prevents what we call, you know, disrespect or contempt against the commander-in-chief.
So, you know, as a member of the public, you can say whatever you want to say.
then the context of the military, you can't speak disrespectfully against income energy.
So he's looking at Article 88, Article 94, there's the general article 134.
He's undermining good order and discipline.
I don't want to go too deep into the weeds.
But those three in and of themselves are grounds for investigation.
And my judgment, calling him back and subjecting him to what we call a general court martial.
So then what would happen in the court martial?
This is fascinating, by the way.
I'm very interested in this.
Could you explain what Mark Kelly would be facing?
Like, let's say that you were defending him and he was sitting in a room with you.
You know, you just explained three or four different rules in the UCMJ that he broke.
What penalties could be facing?
Well, the president has said, I mean, theoretically, for sedition, you could go all the way to the death penalty.
That wouldn't happen here, but it is, it is possible.
He could also be prosecuted for treason and I didn't even go there.
that is giving aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States, and these drug cartels are
that. But, you know, he's going to try to raise, you know, First Amendment types of defenses,
but the UCMJ was passed by Congress, and a number of these articles have been held to survive from
constitutional standpoints. What will happen is if, in fact, he's recalled there will be an
investigation, you know, what we call an Article 32 investigation in the military, that's kind of
like a probable cause investigation where a commander will appoint an investigating officer to look at
what he said and what the others have said and determine whether or not there's probable cause
that he has violated one of the articles. And I think that's a pretty easy go. And then if the
decision is made to prosecute him, there will be a general court-martial convening authority
could be the president or it could be, you know, a regional commander such as sent com, you know,
a number of them that could convene the court. And then a jury would be selected and a trial
would take place to determine whether there's not, there's been a violation. But he could be
called back up, forced back in uniform and face charges on this. And I think, you know, we need to
at least get this process in the motion. You just can't have members of the Congress trying to undermine
a valid, you know, order from the president. Listen, the whole idea of dis-unlawful orders. I mean,
look, Obama, for example, used drones to kill American citizens in the Middle East. Now,
some of those American citizens might be shady, but they have constitutional rights. Out on the
high seas, these terrorists who are bringing fentanyl, which is a weapon of mass destruction into
the nation, have zero constitutional rights. And it isn't like the president's ordered some
action against American citizens like Obama did when the Democrats sat back and said nothing.
So the whole notion that there's been something illegally ordered is ridiculous.
And when you press these Democrats, they can't even point to anything.
You flip this around.
So Mark Kelly is occupying what you would call the John McCain seat, right, from Arizona.
When Barack Obama was yeeding American citizen teenagers in Yemen with drones without a trial,
which is, of course, prima facie, illegal and unconstitutional.
right. Sorry, sir. Even then, if John McCain had the bloody cheek and temerity to come out and say,
stop following orders of the commander in chief, I would just, I would totally disavow that.
Right. Like, I would view that as like something that is indefensible, frankly.
You know, argue that it's unconstitutional, but bring an impeachment charge if you, if you would like,
if you feel that strongly about it. But to make a video that says all of you people serving in the military,
stop following orders of the commander-in-chief,
yo, that's like, that's, I mean, I would never be down for that,
like under any circumstance, right?
Like, that's the destruction of the country.
That's the destruction of the military order.
And a lot of these guys are on nuclear submarines.
And a lot of these guys have nuclear weapons or F-22 Raptors,
very dangerous weapons could kick off World War II.
We have bases in every country around the world,
and guns pointed.
in every country around the world,
and if you start like decaying order,
then you'll kick off a world war real fast
and get a bunch of people killed.
Like if you start sending these messages
to the American troops, I mean, it's totally,
it's insanely dangerous and indefensible.
Yeah, it's an unconstitutional attack
on the chain of command.
See if the chain of command is constitutionally authorized
at Article 2 with the president's command
here in chief.
And when you start undermining this chain of command,
that you put American lives and other lives in danger.
And it's a reckless assault against good order and discipline.
What are you going to try to do?
You're going to try to find, you know, we have Democrats that serve in the military.
We have Republicans.
You're going to try to isolate the Republicans, the Democrats against Republicans on a nuclear submarine,
on a trite-class submarine or on USS Abraham Lincoln or whatever the shit might be.
That is what they're appearing to try to do.
And it's the most irresponsible thing I've ever seen a member.
Well, I won't say the most irresponsible is among the most irresponsible acts I've ever seen members of the United States Senate
engage in. Well, you know, I know that you were running for the Senate. And I didn't want to give you
an opportunity to talk to me about your race since this is our first time meeting, you know, here on this
beautiful live stream digital format. So the floor is yours, Don, before we jump off here.
I entered the race back in late February, early March, in large part because the current sitting
Senator Tom Tillis was undermining a number of the president's appointees. And of course,
I worked very closely with the Secretary of War Pete Hedstaff on some military issues. We worked
very hard to try and secure a presidential pardon for Lieutenant Clinton Lawrence, who had
been in who had been in Leavenworth charged under Obama's rules of engagement and convicted
for quote-unquote murder because his folks have been in the firefighting in Afghanistan. So I got
worked closer to Pete, believed that he's one of President Trump's
best picks ever. He's going to be the best Secretary of Defense, now Secretary of War ever,
and Tillis had promised to, if any nominees for the cabinet had come through the confirmation
process that he would support that nominee, Pete came through the Senate Armed Services Committee
and Tillis then still tried to tank the nomination. So that's what kind of kicked me off
to the race. We've been in the race ever since then. We're running on America First agenda,
I believe, and I would love to see those Doge cuts eventually codified.
I think the president has done a brilliant job.
It's been the most brilliant execution of any administration in history in the first 300 days.
But our Republican Congress has got a step to the plate.
We still have a Department of Education that's got to go.
The IRS has got to go.
I'm running on what I call Benny a Deep State Reduction Act.
One of the recommendations that Doge made is 300, the 400 agencies have got to go.
We have got to take a neat cleaver to the deep state for two regions.
It's number one because it's busting our national debt is going out of control because it is deep state.
If you cannot constitutionally defend an agency, three letter, four, letter, five letter, it's got to go.
The Department of Education, of course, is under the crosshairs.
It's got to go.
FEMA was an absolute disaster here in western North Carolina.
We still have people that are displaced.
That's got to go.
The Internal Revenue Service has got to go.
So I'm going to bring a neat cleaver approach to the United States Senate.
And we have to understand President Trump has been certainly the greatest president in our lifetime.
We have a thing called the 22nd Amendment in the Constitution, which means that at high noon on January 20th, 20209, we'll have another commander-in-chief.
We love J.D. Vance. President Trump is Mount Rushmore Quality for so many of the things that he's represented.
But whoever that president is is not going to be President Trump.
And the Republican Congress has got to step up. And Congress has to fulfill its constitutional role.
we have this deep state because Congress historically has abandoned its constitutional role.
You go back to Woodrow Wilson, then you go back with the world must be made safe to democracy.
We're not a democracy.
We're a constitutional republic.
You look at Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal, this administrative state exploded.
Then you go to Lyndon Johnson with the great society.
It exploded even more.
And then Obamacare.
Four major moves of Democrat Congresses is to put us in this position, we've got to take out the deep state.
That's what I'll be committed to, and that's what I'm running on.
and I'm going to have the president's back,
and we're going to bring the torch of MAGA
into the future, even after January of 2009.
It's going to be up to the United States Congress,
our Republicans in Congress,
and that's what's driving me to run.
I can see it clearly.
Don Brown for the military tribunals for the deep state.
Now I can see the vision here.
I'm on board with Pete Head, Seth.
In Kelly's case, he should be ashamed of himself.
He of all people, and it needs to take place.
as far as I'm concerned.
Ladies and gentlemen, you can follow Don right here on X.
He's got 20,000 followers.
And he is running again for Senate in the Great State of North Carolina.
And boy, he's made quite a convincing case.
I've been watching the chat here.
Boy, this guy seems like a good old loyal American.
This is what one of our commenters said on Rumble.
And I'll tell you what, Don, you're welcome back anytime.
Thanks, man.
Thank you, Ben.
Come down in North Carolina.
We'll give you a tour.
We'd love to have you.
You're a celebrity down here.
and happy thanksgiving to you and your family as long as there's barbecue involved brother i'll be there
you got all right all right godspeed happy thanksgiving thank you brother
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to talk about maybe the, but probably the birth of Jesus Christ
this holiday season and how to have a peaceful Thanksgiving table.
Is my pastor who's been advising me
on these things and his advice is great and uh well i thought that we should share that with you
since i love you the chat pastor joe harris from calvert chapel joins us live now
pastor joe what's up man any how you doing it is uh one of the most famous moustaches in uh all of
christendom is is pastor jose
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So we are entering the holiday season.
This is a holiday season, obviously, where I think a lot of people lose touch and lose their peace.
A lot of times in these moments, you can also engage in fights and wars with family members and stress.
That stress has already hit the Johnson household this holiday season, or my wife and I both had to calm down, all right, on this stuff.
And so I wanted to bring you on for just some spiritual advice on the next coming.
couple months of what it's really about what are the what are some of the better ways to find peace in
this period well it's interesting we're going uh into thanksgiving and the idea of peace i mean
a scripture that comes to mind actually is the is a scripture in philippians
that says don't be anxious about anything but in everything present your request to god
with thanksgiving and then the peace of god which transpasses trespasses all understanding
and guard your hearts and minds in christ jesus so you know i would start with that
I mean, I know sometimes maybe it's differences of worldviews around the table that might cause some conflict, and maybe that's what you're, you know, referring to.
But, you know, actually, when we were in Clemson the other day, somebody asked the same question to you, they were asking, well, you know, how do we handle people of a different worldview, different belief system, you know, in our families?
And you had, you know, such an excellent answer to that question that, you know, basically who else is going to love them?
who else is going to show them the love of Christ besides you.
So I think one of the ways to have peace around the table is to just think of yourself as being on mission.
You know, think of, I mean, you are a person that has the gospel of Christ in you.
You have experienced the love of God, forgiveness of sins through Jesus.
And, you know, for me personally, I've been converted by faith in Christ.
So I know what it's like to be different and that the grace of God can change anyone.
So I'm not going to have love in my heart for someone who's completely different for me.
I'm going to have hope for someone.
I'm not going to be hateful towards anyone.
I mean, if anything, we're the peacemakers, right?
We have the grace of God and us.
So that's a good question.
That's a good thought.
Good thing to consider.
So be in peace.
What about a scripture when it comes with my wife and I?
Certainly there's plenty of people that can have worldview differences and that can cause stress.
around the holiday table, especially when there's been a box of wine drained, you know,
in the fridge or a bottle of Carlo Rossi rolling around on the floor.
People can get to, you know, the feathers can fly, the turkey can fly, you know, in those kind of
situations.
With my wife and I, it's just the stress of the holiday season, you know, everything from us
having to host Thanksgiving dinner and all of the various things that have to happen in this next
month, you know, traditionally when it comes to buying presents and the kids and the family members
all coming in, who's staying where, who's doing what? What about times when it doesn't include
worldview conflict, but it really just includes extreme heightened stress, right? That can really
destroy the purpose of the season. And how should you work yourself through that as a Christian?
Yeah, the message of the season is that Christ the king came to us with the utmost humility. He laid down his
life for us, served us. I think one of the best ways to handle that is to just continue to think of
yourself as a servant, to have humility. I mean, for us, you know, the pressure is we set our own
bar. You know, we set a bar of pride, essentially, if we think we have to have the perfect Christmas,
the perfect gifts, the perfect, you know, perfectly baked, you know, turkey. So for us, it's almost,
you know, we should think of ourselves as being humble servants. We're serving our kids. We're
serving a table of food. So, you know, if we humble ourselves and serve others like Christ
served us, then it keeps from, you know, us being deflated, us, it actually takes the stress
off, you know, if we don't have, you know, everything is not going to be perfect, right? We are not
perfect. Jesus is the only perfect one. There's going to be a dish that tastes bad. There's going to
be a present that's the wrong, you know, a sweatshirt that's the wrong size, a remote control car that
doesn't work. So it's put that pressure on ourselves. I mean, Christmas is a
about humility, Christmas is about serving.
Ultimately, it's, ultimately it's about the grace of God
that came to us to give us salvation through Jesus Christ.
So, you know, having that same humility as Christ had towards us
is really, I think, the way to eliminate the pressure,
the stress, because the stress is not on us.
The stress, you know, God carries our burden.
So just having faith, humility.
Well, as people are going through their breathing exercises,
in the kitchen you know in order to like calm down right or locking themselves in the pantry
to get themselves together what would be what would be a scripture that would roll through your
mind in order to bring peace so having well really the one i just started with was having gratitude
and in praying i mean back in the day we would have hit the whiskey bottle or i mean i would have in
you know lit up a cigarette you know that's kind of like before christ but now there's new ways to cope with
life and distress. So, you know, by faith, right? So we have, like he says here in Philippians,
present your request to God with gratitude. So gratitude for everything. Gratitude for our
salvation, thankfulness for the health of our families, to have a roof overhead to be in America,
the land, the opportunity, the freedom we have. We can say Christmas. We can sing. We can go to church,
you know, and celebrate the gospel and sing about Jesus. And like all of the good things,
just having gratitude and for what Christ has done. And for
what he's given us. I mean, he's blessed us so much. So, you know, just having that heart
for God and a gratitude and in prayer. And, you know, obviously praying, praying in the
spirit, just taking a moment to trust him, let right by faith. Yes. I feel like, you know,
I'm no expert on this, and I, I just observing anecdotally, but like our entire culture is just
built on ingratitude and the desire for more. And that seems like,
the least practiced virtue, man, is just having gratitude for what you've been given.
And there's a lot of consternation and anxiety right now in the job market and in the economy
and, you know, with the administration. And I feel like there's such a fleeting appreciation for
how much you are required to just be thankful. And I'm reading through Matthew right now.
And it's like, Christ's like talking about like, you know, yo, like the birds, like you're worth so much more.
than the birds. Yeah. And God loves them like a lot. And you're worth so much more than these
flowers that are just going to be thrown in the fire. And they're beautiful. Like they're more
beautiful than Solomon ever was, you know. And you're worth so much more than that, in fact.
And so like chill out, right? Like give us this day our daily bread. But nobody practices
gratitude like at all. Like it's the thing you see the very least, frankly, is people just
being thankful. Why is that? I hate that. You know, I think it's probably because of misunderstanding.
of the gospel you know the Jesus actually says we have every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms
it's partly because of that and then it's partly because we want material things you know and like
let's say you travel to east Africa and you're like I've been there several times doing missions and
it's they don't have the same American dream that we have you know they don't have the same
opportunities that that we have they don't have the same material life that we have so a lot of
times we don't realize that like we have everything we need in Christ
and then the material things that he gives us,
those things are, you know, just icing on the cake, essentially.
Those things are, they are blessings and material blessings,
but they actually don't even compare with the spiritual blessings that we have in Christ.
So we have to keep the American dream in perspective.
I mean, we do have, you know, this amazing country with opportunity all around us,
and we are driven to succeed.
We're driven to have a house with cars and all of these things, family, two, you know,
three kids and a dog, you know.
But it has to stay within perspective,
because we already have everything we need.
We have, you know, eternal life.
Paul even would say, if I have food and clothing,
I'll be content with that.
So the other things, the house, the career, the success, the followers,
how many followers, what are we, you know,
all of those things are just secondary to the main thing of being right with God
through Jesus Christ, through faith in Christ.
So when we lose sight of the gospel and finding our fullness in Christ,
and then we begin to, you know, be stressed, be in.
empty and not have gratitude.
I mean, we should be actually, we should wake up every day and be grateful that we're not
going to hell.
We should be grateful that we have eternal life.
We should have, we should be grateful that we have breath in our lungs.
We have another day to breathe, another day to hug our families and hug our kids.
But we lose sight of the things that are truly important because of, honestly, because
of the amazing, sometimes because of the amazing opportunities we have right in front of us,
materially, if that makes sense.
It does.
Isn't it? You know, it's something that I think a lot of people have been questioning, especially as we've watched at scale, the largest martyrdom. I think that any of us will ever witness, which is Charlie Kirk dying for his beliefs. You know, no man dies for a lie. Charlie died for the truth. And, you know, we've sort of had a front row seat to all of that. It's been a wild and shocking spiritual moment. I think for many in the country, what's been your take on what's been happening in America? Like, how is it?
God working right now through that. I think it's been a spiritual awakening, to be honest. I think
people are searching. People are asking questions. Why did someone have to die so young? People
even ask those questions like, well, if God is good, why does someone, you know, why does a good person
die young like that, you know? But it's actually a picture of the crucifixion of Christ. It's a
picture of the martyrdom of Stephen. And, you know, I think if you were to ask Charlie Kirk,
even in this moment, would he change anything?
I don't think he would.
I think we have to look at the situation and see, man,
God used the death, an untimely death.
Yes, it's a tragic death.
It's untimely.
But it caused a revival.
It caused hundreds of thousands of young people to question
and to say, I believe,
to say I'm going to read the Bible for the first time
and to wake up.
I think the hard part is,
is you see a lot of people just say they believe in God,
but yet aren't finding,
you know, a good Bible teaching church and finding the true gospel.
I think that's the hard part is, is people want to be the voice of Charlie Kirk.
But Charlie Kirk would always say, you know, the most important thing is your faith, your
relationship with Jesus Christ.
So I don't want to lose sight of that with Charlie.
That was his legacy, is a legacy of faith.
And he did love politics.
He loved the country.
He loved conservative thought and all those things are good.
But he would always say the most important thing is your personal relationship with Jesus.
So I just hope that message continues.
You know, I'm thankful you've given me opportunities to pray at some of these turning
point events and keeping faith really the priority.
But that's my take on it is like, let's not lose the main thing.
You know, let's not lose faith while we die for the country, right?
Let's continue to keep the main thing seeking first the kingdom of God and the gospel
and a relationship with Jesus Christ.
And then loving our country, those are great things.
It's a good thing.
need to fight for that for our posterity for posterity and for our legacy and but the main thing is
that legacy of faith right yes yes that's right nations come and go and you know it's it there's
there's always a churning of the wheel um there are things outside of our control it's all in
god's control but uh christ remains eternal and the same and so uh in conclusion pastor
what would be your message this christmas season just to realign uh the uh the christians watching
and maybe some people who are on the fence
about like what is what is christmas
exactly it's the message of salvation
god you know for god so loved the world
that he gave as one and only son that whosoever believes in him
shall not perish but have everlasting life i think
if you could find a if you're not in a solid bible
teaching church that really has
conservative theology saying that like you actually believe
that jesus is fully god that he is was perfect
the board of a virgin those are important
doctrine. So get to a Bible-believing church that teaches the gospel. But, you know, for men,
especially, be the spiritual leader of your home. Read the Christmas story. Believe. You know,
don't just read it, but believe. Give thanks to God with your family. Pray. Give thanks for the gospel
that God came to save us, that Jesus, he was born in a manger, but he lived a perfect life,
died sacrificially, rose from the grave, right, to defeat sin and death for us so that
whoever believes can have eternal life.
That's the Christmas story.
That's what it's about, that God came to save us and that people who believe in Jesus
can have that eternal life.
So, you know, being that, so celebrate Christmas and keep that meaning central, the actual
Christmas story of Jesus and read the story, pray to Jesus, trust in Jesus as your Savior,
you know, call your kids to believe in Jesus and celebrate the true literal risen king.
right that came to save us and and worship him somewhere with other believers who believe in king
jesus that he is the one who all holds all things together and he is the eternal king the king of
kings and live live for him walk with him and worship him right just like the wise men did in christmas
we worship him the same way because we know he's the eternal god i mean i would never call
myself wise but maybe in this circumstance it would be merited because that is what we intend on
in the Johnson household. If you are a wise man, you should take that advice.
And that's what the wise men did in the earliest, in the first Christmas. And it's what
wise men do now, 2,000 plus years later. Uh, wise men also, uh, follow and Joe Harris,
Pastor Joe Harris here on X. Here we go, Pastor Joe Harris of Calvary Chapel here in South
Tampa. He's my pastor. And, um, you know, I think he's, he's, I, you know, whatever, wherever you
are in your faith journey, you'd find rock solid advice and sound Christian doctrinal principles
from his page. You should follow him. And if you're in Tampa, come join us at Calvert Chapel.
Thank you, Pastor. Thanks, Benny. It's a pleasure, man. Godspeed. All right, you too. See you soon.
You really mean it.
That's like, great.
It's been a rowdy show like we didn't plan on rolling for two hours here on the show.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I need, I'm going to need to go through my throat.
I've been holding it down.
I've been holding it down this entire show.
But boy, those kids have those kids have gotten.
me got me sick as a dog. I'm so glad I'm not traveling. Holy smokes. You got to have some
chicken noodle soup tonight and then go to bed early. Woof. Uh, anyway, uh, ladies and gentlemen,
let's go ahead and uh, let's go ahead and check the polls. Peace on Earth from Polly Market.
It's rock and roll.
We want peace on earth. Boy, it'd be nice to have in time for Christmas. The odds of a Russia,
Ukraine ceasefire in 2025. On Friday? Goodness. 25%. At 15%. Okay. You got to just like,
obviously, blend the numbers here. 20% and 25%. What are the odds of a Russia Ukraine ceasefire?
A Christmas ceasefire, a Thanksgiving ceasefire. Didn't we have one of those in World War I?
We did at the great Thanksgiving ceasefire in World War I, where both sides went.
played soccer together or something like that at christmas or thanksgiving ceasefire that'd be
beautiful to see amazing how ukraine in russia during war war one they were also fighting
then in world war two these are such ancient eternal battles with these blood feuds tribal
blood feuds we want nothing to do with it be done with it we don't want to fund it we don't
want more death let's have peace on earth please and then let's focus on our own country damn it
nice okay thank you polymarker for these uh
for these encouraging odds.
I would love to see it.
Ladies and gentlemen,
again, I'd love to see you have Christmas ornaments
on your Christmas tree.
You can go to shop Benny.
Go pop the URL up one more time.
You can go to the Benny store and order yours.
We are shipping out thousands of them per day.
It's amazing.
We make virtually no money off the $5.
I mean, what can you do, right?
That's not the point.
That's not the point of this.
The point of these ornaments is to bring cheer and warmth and liveliness, joy throughout the nation
to make sure that you have a fun, to make sure that you have something fun to put on your tree.
And I do have one final.
I do have a, here, here we go.
From Debbie Summers.
Debbie Summers.
I don't know if you're watching.
Debbie Somers sent it such beautiful photos.
of her tree.
I'm sending him to you, Klein.
Yeah, email.
Here we go, Klein.
I wanted to do this.
I wanted to do more of this.
I'm so sorry that we have had a crazy week.
But here we go.
Debbie Summers writes,
Hi, Benny.
My husband and I retired,
and we watch you every day.
We saw the Christmas ornaments
that you are selling
and we decided that they would be perfect
for our little Charlie Brown Christmas tree.
And she asked, how did we do?
Well, Debbie, we're going to throw your Christmas tree right upon the show here.
And you can see for yourself.
Probably best not to put up your email.
There you go.
Okay.
Here we go.
We can grab the email client directly.
That's fine.
And here they are, ladies and gentlemen.
These are beautiful Christmas.
They're incredible. We love them.
Look at that. She's got the Melania.
We've got the bomber.
They look great.
And the JD sitting there on the bow?
We love it. Thank you, Debbie.
Summers, this is from Debbie Summers.
Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas.
From Debbie Summers, God bless you.
And we will bless you with a final verse of the day here.
Thanksgiving 2025.
Rejoice, always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances.
This is God's will for you.
Christ Jesus. First Thessalonians 516. Yes, rejoice always and pray continually and give thanks
in all circumstances. A happy Thanksgiving to you. May God bless you in this great American
tradition, this beautiful holy day here in America where we give thanks for God's providence
on our great land, the greatest country on earth. It's your boy Betty. Happy Thanksgiving. See ya.
guess what
i'll tell you the tale of a scrawny turkey
someone called peatop we need more stuffing
stuff him high stuff him low
stuff that turkey we're gonna need more stuff
but guess what guess what everything will be okay
guess what day what day it is
it's turkey day
Get it on, hump day.
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