The Benny Show - Iran Has LOST the Battle of Hormuz As Trump Deploys Secret Weapon That NO ONE Saw Coming 🛢

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

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Okay. Here we go. There's always something. And we are always ready to. Live today with Ed Martin, Eagle Ed Martin, joining us from the Department of Justice. Ladies and gentlemen, Iran has lost control of the Strait of Hormuz. President Trump gets his groove back this weekend. Exciting things happening all around the world and a massive breaking news update that will make your blood boil.

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40 years. And he says that Donald Trump not only hates Washington, D.C., but like he, it's bad for his soul, that Trump is somebody who needs to break out of the swamp. And that is what he did all weekend. I think you're going to see very positive energy out of this administration leading up into the midterms, unlike anything you've ever seen. Campaign Trump is the most powerful version of Trump. And what happens in the city, I mean, I'm in Washington, D.C. right now. My wife and I were talking about this on my, you know, on like the Uber into the studio this morning is this place has a reality distortion vector. Unlike anything I've ever seen, the people who live here, the swamp creatures live here, they have all the wrong priorities. And they actually, look, when you

spend enough time here, you'll sneer at regular Americans, regular people. When you spend enough time here, you'll start to look down on the rest of the country and their problems. Because every time you fill up your gas tank, it's paid for by the federal government. every time you fill up your gas tank because a secret service agent doing it, right? I mean, you might live in some rat infested hole here in the city, but at least you go to work in a building that has marble halls and hallways, and you get to go to free happy hours and your food's all paid for.

Seriously, I kid you not. Like every single event in the city is catered and paid for. These people never spend any of their own money. It's corrosive on the entire city. It's corrosive on the people that are making the decisions for the country. And so getting trust. Trump out of that, breaking Trump out of that and getting them amongst the people is the greatest thing that could happen to the president. Not only does it like put Trump back into the

ear shot of people that actually live with real problems and aren't lobbyists and people that are have the wrong intentions, let's just say, like are constantly like buying for something. They're like begging. Somebody get these beggars out of here, right? But it's also an ability for Donald Trump to reconnect with his superpower, which is the American people. And the American people do love Donald Trump. He has been able to connect culturally across cultural lines, not just a political figure. This is the reason why Joe Biden never went to any sporting event, because Joe Biden is not a cultural figure. He's a political creature who's barely alive while we were here while he was in, while he was the resident of the White House. And when when even the mention of Joe Biden was brought up,

at like a football game, what would you get? You'd get the Let's Go Brandon chance. You got F. Joe Biden chance all around the nation for four straight years. Joe Biden never even showed up at a football game and they were chanting about Joe Biden. President Trump went to a football game and to a golf outing this weekend. I think it's like, listen, man, you know that I'm an optimist. I'm ridiculously optimistic. And you got to be. And I want to keep up the energy because this is the only vehicle that we have. If you doom on the president right now, you are helping the left. If you go after the Republican Party after primary season, you are helping the left.

You are siding with the enemy. You are siding with the communists. And we're not going to allow that around here. Like I disavow that strategy entirely. Oh, we'll punish the right by punishing ourselves and our neighbors and trafficking a bunch of children and starting a bunch more forever wars. Oh, really? Did the wars stop? Did you like Afghanistan?

with Joe Biden. Did you like Ukraine with Joe Biden? It's terrible. I want Iran to be over, and that's what the show is actually about. But I want to like just take a quick detour here and show you how important it is what Donald Trump did this weekend, got chance of USA from the President's Cup in Chicago before getting cheered from the rafters in downtown Chicago. as President Trump in downtown Chicago. Listen to this. They don't even have the crowd mic'd. Every time Trump gives a speech,

it's Donald Trump getting cheered in Chicago for more years, is what they're shouting. In Chicago, J.B. Prisker, Brandon Johnson land, rigging the election land, one of the bluest cities in America. Obama just christened his hideous AT-A-T, federal prison trash can dumpster in a National Park Library and watch Donald Trump.

Listen to the crowd for more years. And look at the man go. Come on, baby. It's wild. And Donald Trump does the flyover in Chicago with Air Force one. Look at that. The flyover. This is a golf course that is striking distance from downtown.

It's a beauty. It's a thing of beauty. President Trump greeting the entire team. Obviously, this is Team USA. Donald Trump absolutely having a blast. And you want this energy. You're going to have to have this energy. It's the speech that Trump gives is hilarious.

The first thing he does is start ripping the fake news. You know, the fake news media will say I got a very bad reset. And everyone cheers. Brian said, could you make a short speech? These people want to seek off. They don't want to hear speeches. Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump having clearly the time of his life. You need this energy with the president of the United States.

He's very much an energy guy. Very kinetic. And President Trump is president because he cuts across these cultural lines through sports. Golf, and also let me zip on over here because we're going to run out of time. Football. Again, it's like just my entire feed was how excited people were for President Trump here in all places in Chicago. Effam, says Trump. Go kick those European asses.

He did the same thing. Texas, Tennessee, did you guys see this? Texas, Tennessee, anybody who tells you that Donald Trump was not welcome like a conquering hero. here is lying. You know, in a city like D.C. where everyone is just like obsessed with some of the dumbest, some of the dumbest stuff, like everybody here in Washington, D.C.,

they just don't have the same priorities. It is a reality distortion vector field that blinds you, blinds you. There's Donald Trump flying over nylon here in Knoxville, Tennessee, just a top-notch, flyover, a thing of beauty. People love to see their country strong. People love to see their military strong. Check this out. Dude, you'll never see it again like this. This is what I tell people. Okay, so I realize that there are some people who crash out on Trump. If you're one of those people, here's my advice to you. One, you can't ever win a fight by burning the house down.

you win a fight, you win a battle of your home by staying in your home and fighting back. If you don't like some of the decisions the administration is made, fight from inside of the house. Make your voices known. Watch the show. Leave comments in the chat. We talk about this kind of stuff, stuff we don't agree with. I don't agree with how they handled the Epstein files. I wish they had just been out with it.

Hey, here's every single Epstein file that we have. Here it is on a flash drive, on a hard drive. It's been uploaded. Okay, can we get over this now? Moving on. Okay, you didn't need to drag that out for 17 months. You didn't have to drag it out. In fact, it should never have been happened to Donald Trump.

Republicans should have been smart enough and tactical enough to have pushed this during Biden. It's actually Biden and his family that have the creepy history with little girls and little kids. Don't check Hunter Biden's laptop. It would have been really smart for us. Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat. He only donated to Democrats. His best friends were Democrats. It's like a Bill Clinton thing.

The only person looked bad in any of this was Bill Clinton. So why didn't Republicans push this when they had the House? the Senate during Joe Biden. We could have done the same thing. We're just stupid, weak, not tactical enough to do it. Our leaders are not tactical enough. They could have made a big problem for Joe Biden with all of this and made them look terrible.

Instead it was the left flipping it around. And the Trump administration caught flat-footed. Okay, that's something that I have disagreed with on the strategy there. I've also disagreed with the Iran war strategy. Not sure it was the smartest thing to, like, go to war right before a midterm election. Gas prices are insufferable. and we're going to talk in just a second about like how we fix those and what's going on in Hormuz. Okay.

You don't fix the house by burning it down. That just means everyone's homeless. You fix the country. We live in a system that has two parties. One party is a bunch of smelly Marxists who quite literally want to destroy the American race. Okay. Destroy what it means to be an American. like take take every single person in this stadium right now every single person that 100,000

person stadium and put them in jail. They want that. They want these people in prison for liking football. Abdul El-Said said football is racist. It says football hurts people and his toxic masculinity is what a football field is. This is like the guy that is like the favorite now to win the Senate in Michigan. These people hate America. Most of them are not from America.

So there's that party. Don't have to talk about mutilating children. Don't have to talk about open borders. But all of it is designed to humiliate Americans, but also to, it's like antithetical to Christianity. I mean, ultimately, I'm a Christian first, an American second. And then you have our party, which very much has the absolute and total opposite priorities, which is to preserve Americans and the American people, our heritage, to close. our borders to ban the practices that traffic or harm children. Christ says it's better to get a

giant thousand pound stone crush your skull and you're thrown in the ocean than for you to harm a hair on one of these kids. Well, I'm down with that, along with a bunch of other things that align with my worldview the best. And there are some things that I don't like. And so you fight from inside of the house. And you watch moments like this and you say, this is great for Donald Trump. This is great for our country. The vast majority of the people are with us and will stay with us, with I think some slight tweaks. And if you were able to, you know, nothing's perfect in politics, if you're able to just kind of lock it in for the next two years, I think J.D. Vance is going to win 40 states because there's so much good data out there for what has happened.

in our nation right now. I want to get the Iran war wrapped up. I want to get the Ukraine war wrapped up. I don't want any more new wars. If it were up to me, I'd probably liquidate all American bases in the Middle East to screw this entire region, to be quite honest with you. Go fend for yourselves, you know. But anyway, I love what the president is doing and creating unsinkable fortress America here in our hemisphere, his work with Cuba, what's going to happen in Cuba was going to happen in Greenland, the new American bases was happening in Venezuela. That's an American empire. That's the preservation of our people and the defense of our nation. That's what this entire movement's about. I got kids and I'm going to do everything I possibly

can to defend them and to keep them alive and give them a future. That says in Proverbs that a blessed generation gives an inheritance their children's children. While you thinking about your grandchildren right now, that would be me. What are my grandchildren looking like? Well, I don't know, hopefully I'll meet him someday. And if I meet him, I want to be able to say, we did everything that we costly could to not be a dumber, to not crash out on the president when we had all the power to, like, stand and fight. And so, ladies and gentlemen, that is what we're doing. President Trump on oil prices this morning, Donald Trump talking about oil prices climb. I'm going to the play beside here. Thank you. Let's go. Donald Trump saying, what's going to happen?

to oil, what's happening in Hormuz. And we're going to get into how we are winning the Battle of Hormuz right now go. With all of that, oil will come dropping down. As soon as Iran gives up, as soon as the war is over, which will be soon, oil is going to come plummeting down, and all prices are coming down. But prices for groceries have come way down from Biden.

Almost every price has come way down. And remember one thing, oil is less expensive now than it was than it was under the Biden administration. But with all of that being said, we're taking tremendous amounts of oil out. Last night, we took a record amount of oil out from the Harmo Strait, more than we took out before the war. Thank you very much. All right, ladies and gentlemen, checking in, do you, uh, are we good team? Yeah, okay. Unfortunately, we got a little bit of a, I got a little bit of a grainy, a bit of a grainy shot. I'm not sure why that is, but the technicians in the studio here are working on it.

We're working with Jack and Chris right now. I'm not exactly sure. I'm not exactly sure what might be the problem. But, ladies and gentlemen, but producers, I can only go by what you say, so let me know what's up. Yeah, we're going to throw up the Scott Bessett clip here, and then hopefully we'll have this solved, and we can talk about what's happening in Iran. Thank you. And I am confident given that there's only 15 million more barrels of Iranian oil on the water,

that Iran will have nothing left to trade for anything. They will have nothing to trade for anything. Probably within the next two weeks, they are going to make their final deliveries of oil to China, and then they will have nothing. And I am confident given that there's only 15. million more barrels of Iranian oil on the water, that Iran will have nothing left to trade for anything. They will have nothing to trade for anything. All right, boys, it looks like we're still a little bit grainy here. Not exactly sure why, but we're just going to keep rolling. How's the

audio? Is the audio clear? Can we talk through some stuff? We apologize. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, what can you do? You just, you, we do it live, as they say. Okay, here we go. Why are we optimistic about where the country is going and what is going to happen in Iran? Evidence that the regime in Iran has lost the battle of Hormuz. Here we go. This is something the corporate media will not show you. They won't show you Donald Trump. Getting USA, USA, four more years chance in Chicago, of all places, and they won't show you this, the actual hard data out of poor moves. This is the single most important battle in the world right now, because this is why Donald Trump walked away from the negotiating table with Iran this weekend. The first and only

rule of negotiation is what is your leverage? What are your liabilities? What is your leverage? What are your liabilities? What is your leverage? What are your liabilities? What can. can you leverage? And Iran thought that they could leverage the Strait of Hormuz. This is their only play. Iran has no other capacity to strike in any meaningful way, in any truth, a truly damaging way, the United States or its neighbors. They have run out of ballistics. They have run out of the material to wage anything other than a war of terror. They don't have an army. They don't have an Air Force.

They don't have a Navy. They can try and terrorize with a scud missile or ballistic missile here and there. But truly, like, that's not a negotiate. You don't want to negotiate with that. You don't want that to be your sole strategy. This is an unwise strategy. Iran has two more plays then. One is the Strait of Hormuz, and we're going to get to that, and two is nuclear.

And so why don't we talk through how Iran and how President Trump and our incredible military took away Iran's ability to use the Strait of Hormuz's leverage? And the numbers just don't lie. Look at this. Hormuz oil flows go to two-thirds of pre-war level as Iran's grips erode on the strait. Strait of Hormuz. The Strait of Hormuz transit summary is now 92% of pre-war levels. This is from the closed Strait of Hormuz. This is the most damning article on all of X right now. Iran has lost control of the straight from a guy who's not a huge Trump fan. This is not some member of Trump's commerce team that was paid to post this. This is somebody who's independently

looking at the data and saying Iran's regime has lost control of the Strait of Hormuz. Why? Because oil exports in the Middle East are now back to about 94%. It's a moving target. But what the data tells us right now, and right here, as far as I can judge, plenty of independent data sources to cross-check below, we are back, baby. The key development over the past month was the UAE's refusal to become a hostage to Iran. Instead, they established something called the Hormuz's shuttle. It started early back in May, and placed 11 holes owned, leased, and operated by ADNOC. This is a massive oil moving company to get the risky job done of shuttling crude out of the Persian trap in Oman through the Gulf of Oman,

unloading it by a ship to ship transfer, and then reentering the Persian trap to repeat the trade. Fast forward. So you see what's going on here. They're taking these ships that are balkanized, that are small, that are fast, and that can really move and do so nimbly, and they're zipping them into and out of and underneath the Iranian's capacity to project strength or to destroy, a typical tanker. It is like a shuttle service. And the shuttle service is just like a people mover that just goes on a loop, a very tight loop, right?

Go to Disney, right? You go to Disney or Universal Studios or something. Or the airport. It's a shuttle service. It's a little train that just does very... tight little loop at the Tampa Airport, took it this morning, and it's just made for to move people point A to point B swiftly. And so they created a system to move the oil swiftly around Hormuz and then to load it up on tankers that take it out to the rest of the world.

Fast forward to September, not only has ADNOC, we'll call it Adnok, become very good at the Hormuz shuttle. But Saudi Aramcoe and Kuwait have learned from the UAE. They've copied the model by now, there are 116 different halls active in the shuttle trades, so 116 different trains that are bringing in and taking out oil day and night, hugging the coast of Oman, instead of the middle lane and the Turan tollbooth lane. Importantly, ADNOC has overcapacity for the trade. That means it can provide the shuttle service for Iraq, too, for a nice fee. The fee costs, let's see, here's the fee, by the way. So this is really where a lot of the cost is going up. About $85 million dollars for two million barrels of crude loaded. It's a lot of money, you know. So you wonder why

gas has gone up? That's fine. That and gouging. But that's why. So Iran has increased the insurance costs. They have increased the cost to get the barrels in and out. And then, of course, the cost to build one of these ships is also very expensive. It costs $220 million to build one of these ships. But over the past weeks, key development has been the squeeze of Saudi exports. Originally, the Saudis recovered exports back in March by redirecting crews to the Arabian Gulf. Now there's a new war with Yemen. So that's trying to block that off with the Houthis. And so the Saudis briefly tried to reroute exports northbound through the Suez Canal. That was prohibitively expensive. And so they're back to using this shuttle service that just scoots right around Oman. Oman is an American ally. Donald Trump, I mean, this is where the Iran War suddenly made a ton of sense to me. I'm not sure I'm going to really going to get in trouble for this one, but it is what it is. Donald Trump has a bunch.

Hey, Alex, can you grab this? Donald Trump has a ton of properties in Oman. Did you know this? Do you know Donald Trump's building in the east like crazy? Why would President Trump be building? be building a bunch of towers in the Middle East. Why would you have a giant hotel in Oman? You could put it up when you get it.

Like the reason Trump has these properties there is that there is a plan to make the region extremely stable. Iran was always a destabilizing force in the region. Whatever you think of the war, you could say that Iran is a net evil on the world, not a net good. If you know anybody who was injured in GWAT wars, and we don't talk about these people enough, If you know, anybody who was injured had their leg blown off, their eye blown out, arm blown off, injuries up in the brain with IEDs, dude. These guys were hit by Iran. It's Iran that does this kind of stuff. And it's like a bad force in the Middle East and a company that's building in Oman.

Trump International Hotel, Oman, well, that looks nice. Boy, can I see some of the whormuzes? tankers, we've got to put a bunch of tankers off that balcony. You got to put up energy these shuttles off that balcony. When you were able to scoot shuttles right past there, if the Trump family is building properties like this in Oman, do they really expect that it's going to be Armageddon in this region? Or is this somebody who wants stability? And you can say what you want about the way that this war has been executed. Iran is a very evil country, and they've done very evil things. And they've done very evil things. And they've done very evil

things to not only their own people, which is morally, of course, very bad, but to Americans. And so they are a destabilizing vector in the region. However, if we wanted to turn the whole place into a glass factory, into an ash heap, why would Donald Trump be constantly putting up beautiful hotels in places like Oman? Look at this. This is on Hormuz. I say, do you understand this? This hotel is on the Hormuz straight. You could stay at Hormuz. We've made the joke, like, don't book your summer vacation to Hormuz.

Get a little hot. No, you could book here. This is, you can stay at Hormuz in a Trump tower, and you can see the shuttle service taking place. So it is, I think, critically important to say that there's, like, no skin in the game. That's not true. obviously President Trump spending the entire week out amongst the people in Tennessee and in Chicago and with Texas fans and with golf fans and volunteers fans like it's a good thing.

Trump probably heard tons of this. Did we just AI this? This is amazing. We just AI this? It's gorgeous. It's perfect. Look at that. Who wouldn't book this room?

The infinity pool out to the Hormuz straight into the oil shodels. It's perfect. Okay. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, who wouldn't want that? It's the most beautiful view in the world. Who wouldn't want that view? Ladies and gentlemen, back at it.

Here we go. Who wouldn't want this? The Saudis are now reloading and reigniting. Meanwhile, and this is crazy. You read through this article, and you can see here, this is the coast of Oman. This is the previous lanes, reportedly mined. Nobody's quite sure about that. And this is the Iranian route, right?

That would hug the Iranian coast. So everybody's scooting right along here, the Omani Coast. It looks like, you know, there's some scraggly rocks out here. Obviously, you don't want to hit those. But, you know, nobody's too worse off for the wear except for Iran. Look at this. This is Iranian oil exports. absolute zero.

They are being starved, choked out, choked completely to death. What happens next is hyperinflation. It's already happened. What happens next is you get, here we go, Iran's unemployment rate, Iran's inflation rate. We already have reports out of Iran. that IRGC generals are being lynched by mobs, that mobs are traveling the countryside and going after the agents of terror who have been terrorizing them.

I'm not sure what the CIA's ground game ops are going to be, but I have a feeling they're going to be pretty dramatic in the coming months. And so by taking away the Strait of Hormuz, by Donald Trump, pulling Iran's grip off of the Strait of Hormuz and shipping oil out, Iran has one less chit to play. Look at this, Gulf of Oman, ship to ship transfers by liquid product. You have seven and a half million here. The average pre-war was eight million a day.

So them's the hard numbers. Them's the brakes. In conclusion, Iran has failed to shut the straight. The shuttle system is scaling and time is increasingly working against Tehran. And when you have a people, it doesn't matter if it's today. It doesn't matter if it's the 6th century. It doesn't matter if it's antiquity, prehistory. When do people revolt?

When do people get violent? When do people exact revenge on their leaders? when they're hungry, when they feel like their children will not have a better future, when they are unhoused, and when they are seeing the government not make decisions in their own best interest. And that is why Donald Trump says the entire world has come to a stop and is now begging for negotiations. The Iranians came here and begged for negotiations this past weekend, and they're begging for more negotiations today, which are happening. Kushner, Whitkoff are in New York. Why are they in New York? Well, this is a

a tell, isn't it? The foreign ambassador for Iran, along with Iran's president, has stayed in New York. Why are they staying in New York? Why would they stay inside the great Satan? Why would probably because Mondami is running? I mean, I'm not saying. Birds of a feather. But why would they, like, why would they stay here? They are staying here because they want to return to Iran having this over. They've said time and time again, we want a deal. We're begging for. We're begging for a deal. Donald Trump has taken the main piece of leverage off the chessboard. Trump already signed the MOU and what happened. Iran kept blowing up ships. They kept belligerently firing on and destroying ships. So that's a jackass move. Trump now has taken the straight-of-horm moves and their

ability to do that away. What's their last remaining piece? Last remaining piece. Nuclear. That's it. Iran has nuclear capacity. Hey, man. The IQ in Iran is very high. They have some good scientists. They've been able to crack this code, and they have the capacity to enrich uranium up to 60%. That's enough for a nuclear bomb. They can do this inside of laboratories that are well out of reach for America. You'd have to do a full ground invasion and storm the laboratories. Our bombs can't hit him. Iran will always use this as leverage unless Trump can take it away. Unless Trump can actually get these labs shut down, can actually get inspectors there, can actually take control of this nuclear program, then we're going to find ourselves in the exact same position in five years from now.

President J.D. Vance or whatever is going to find a belligerent Iran that has a, you know, you could sign this today and you would get a bunch of round of applause from everyone. But Iran would take all the money they make off their oil, they'd build more shahed drones, they'd build more ballistic missiles, and they'd continue to enrich uranium in order to get a nuclear bomb to make sure that nobody ever does this to them again. Now, if you're an Iranian, I guess you could try and like keep that card off the table for as long as possible. You can understand the value of that card. But if you are a patriot here in America and you don't like the Iran War, well, you don't want Iran War 2.0. This is why we got World War II.

after World War I. We made dumb decisions. In World War I, we made dumb decisions. I think entering World War I was a dumb decision. You should just let the Europeans, you know, settle it themselves. Entering World War I, dumb decision. Making a lot of dumb decisions after World War I. That leads you directly and inexorably to World War II.

It's like a guarantee. You don't want that here. You want to actually finish the job. And the job is that Iran doesn't get a nuclear bomb, okay? And so if Donald Trump has said on fixing the nuclear bomb question, then you're going to have to take a card off the table. And that's what the Hormuz is all about. 92% of pre-war levels. This is what's going on today.

You're going to have to also collapse the Iranian economy. They've done that. And you're going to want to ensure that Iran can no longer be a belligerent menace throughout the region and destroy everything that we've worked and sacrificed so hard. like they tried to do this weekend. And I am fully convinced nobody's ever going to like, and this is the breaking news that we tease at the top of the show, nobody's ever going to not convince me that Iran had something to do with the five terrorists

who were caught with giant vans filled with explosives outside of an RAF and U.S. Air Force Base. It's called RAF Fairford, Andy Burnham, the very cucked, very libtard, leader of the UK, says, please, I would urge everybody to not speculate while authorities establish the full facts. Well, the full facts this morning is that they left these guys out on bail. Do you know this? They let these guys out. They let these guys out on bail this morning. After England has been caught smuggling in foreign invaders nonstop, they actually smuggling in the foreign invaders. they give them fake citizenship.

So make them a paperwork, Brit. And then they can tell us that all the people that were arrested yesterday are British citizens and let them out on bail. Dude, it will be enough. It's enough to make your blood boil. This is the breaking news right now. They were caught, again, outside of a base that our B-1-Lancer bombers fly out of. These B-1-Lancer bombers have been bombing Iran. It's very risky business.

Ladies and gentlemen, Trump says that there are that there are connections here and that they've been tracking these guys for a long time. Yet the report say that a farmer had to find them and called the police and it was a farmer that actually knew about them. So your first line of defense is a farmer coming back drunk from a party.

I don't know. It doesn't sound good than me. But let me know. In the chat, Ladies and gentlemen, what should think? I think it's terrorism. You don't want Iran to be able to project this style of terrorism or to fund the style of terrorism here in the West. We're not even safe in the West.

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but also Ed is working on behalf of the president and on behalf of you and me, making America greater, safer place. God bless Ed Martin. Still pulling for him as Attorney General. I know I'm not supposed to say that, but maybe one of these days. Joining us now live. Eagle Ed Martin. Eagle Ed, what's up, my man? Hey, great to be with you, Penny. Thank you. Thanks for your kindness over the years while I was in government. Lots of my failed confirmation when Tom Tillis knocked me around and voted like a fool. And then the other stuff we've done, I've appreciated you and also especially your viewers and listeners. They've been very encouraging and appreciate it. I mean, you know, when you're in government, every little bit helps and it really helps

to have folks that believe in you. So thank you for that. Why don't you give people an update? I know that you were in charge of the Trump Partons. You were also, I mean, like, this is the way that I'll introduce you for the rest of our life. I would be a very old man. We'll be doing a Lincoln Day dinner. Okay. In Tallahassee, we'll both get in our walkers and get on the stage or maybe you'll be pushing me in a wheelchair.

And I'll introduce you as the man who got the January 6th pardons through. That would be, that's how I'm going to introduce you. Well, that's the greatest, the greatest, some of the greatest work that could possibly have been done by the Trump administration. Well, and there's so many details to that, Benny. I'll tell you it's just a couple stories around that. Week one, as you know, Donald Trump gets in office a few hours later, he pardons all the J-Sixers. Now, my office as U.S. attorney, has to process like 90% of them and has to dismiss the cases and all. So it's a wild on inauguration night, it was freezing cold. I was standing outside of a venue talking to the lawyers getting this done. But here's the fun part. Day two, I think he did other stuff. But day three, he pardoned two cops, two metropolitan police officers that were targeted for stupid stuff. He pardons them. Day four, which is Thursday, he pardoned all the pro-lifers. Remember, grandma was praying in front of a pro-life clinic goes to jail. Trump pardoned all those. Week one was unbelievable acts of mercy. And the really funny thing, there was the rollout over the

next couple of weeks included these crazy moments where prosecutors were still going to hold J-Sixers to other charges. there was a guy that had a, when they searched his house on J6, they found a hand grenade. And they were going to charge him with that. And so there was this back and forth. And I really should write a book or, you know, a memoir. There was a back and forth between me and Amel Bovi that now the judge and Dave Warrington. And we're trying to figure out what to do. And basically, the question is, who makes the call? And after like three days of not being able to get an answer, Amel Bovi calls me and he says, Ed, you make the call. Of course, they knew what I was going to do.

So I'm like, okay. So I called in the assistant U.S. attorney and I said, release them all. I cut them all loose. And they were like, hang grenade guy. I'm like hang grenade guy. They're like, guy with a gun. I'm like, guy with a gun. There was somebody had some illegal money.

I'm like, let them all go. If you got the bad, if you got these charges off of J6 searches, it just wasn't fair. Right. So we let them all go. So it was, in fact, when people tell me they're disappointed in the Trump administration, I tell them maybe. I can see why there's aspects. But I got to tell you, those first 30 to 45 days were just fantastic transformation of a lot of government.

And we got rid of cases that were bad. We got all those pardons. We fired a whole bunch of prosecutors. I mean, there's a lot more to do. But those were glorious times, I got to tell you. Ed, at the RNC convention, this man comes up to me, tears in his eyes. ALX was standing right next to me. He can vouch for this.

He's on to the chat right now. tears in his eyes, big dude, grabs me by the shoulders and goes, you, Mike Davis, Julie Kelly, Ed Martin. Wow. You guys saved my life. I was put in prison because they raided my house and found a Lego set of the U.S. Capitol. I'm Lego set guy. And I was like, what's up? He's got this long hair and everything.

He's like, I was like, I've heard of you, bro. You're famous. Like this was how absurd it had. gotten. That was a real case, right, Ed? Like, they actually put him away. They said, look, a Lego set of the U.S. Capitol. He was planning the whole thing. Exactly. Exactly. I told somebody, I'm like, I like the proud boys. Some of them are my friends. But if people think we're taking over the country with the proud boys, it's not, it doesn't look like a good insurrection force. I mean, it looks like a really good nights of Columbus picnic. We'd have a great grill going.

We'd have the beer flowing. I'm just not sure. And the same thing, you're right. Lego Man or Lego Man's another one, Lecterne guy. Remember lectern guy? They put that guy in jail and only like years later did I meet him and I met him and he's still a happy guy. He's unbelievable, upbeat guy. I don't know if you knew this. I thought he took the lectern home and like despoiled it and burned it and did rituals on it. He left it in the center of the Capitol. In fact, he said I was going to put it back where we moved it from, but someone else wanted to stand behind it and give fake speeches. So I went home and waved to my buddies. And he went to trial. And in the trial, they didn't show him the video, the prosecutors, these bastards. They didn't show the full video, which him leaving without it. They just showed him picking it up and moving it because technically that's the crime of theft, you know, moving it from a place without permission. And but that's how, that's how great. And this guy, as you just said, this guy like a Lego man, how they didn't become bitter. I'm bitter and I wasn't even in jail.

I'm pissed about it all the time. So it's amazing. And I will say, you know, that was a funny one. Julie Kelly, Benny Johnson, who was it? Mike Davis. And me, those four, that's like a rock band. We could have like Julie could be the front and we could do some kind of, you know, karaoke.

But as you know, we get credit for stuff. And really, it's an honor to participate. But it's the power of this president who allows this stuff. to happen and we're kind of vessels for it and it's been really awesome. I've got a couple of, yeah, I know people who were, who had their lives saved because of these pardons, these J6 pardons. Chat, did you, like, do you know anyone who like got out? Let me know in the chat. You know, like, see if you can, see if you can monitor the chat.

It moves very quickly, but see if you can say, if there are any stories of people who got pardons, they're watching right now or loved ones who have pardons, it's like the most, it's like the most important work, I would say in America. I mean, these people, like, and they would use the fact that you moved a podium seven feet. Yeah. Like, that's where the podium is supposed to be. It's not like you took it out of the room. Right.

So it would be like picking up, you know, like picking up an item in a grocery store and putting it back, maybe not where it belonged, but like you didn't steal it. But he's charged with theft. Okay. And that, that, you know, he was like, that guy is a handbone, all right? I can't remember what his name is. He's, like, goes by lecturing guy. He's a handbone. That guy's, like, laughing and smiling and holding the lectern.

The guy with the Lego set, what happened? Look at this. Oh, wow. Like this guy, you know, oh, wow, this guy looks like ISIS. Totally. It's like ginger, ginger Scottish ISIS, you know, right here. And he's just like having fun. And so, you know, whatever. I, you know, I realize that there was a lot going on that day. And I guess that's maybe my first question to you since you're out of the government now. What is your major takeaway about what happened? on January 6th? Like, what was the major takeaway? And if I may preface it, if I may preface it, there's a, there's a clip that this audience is very familiar with with Nancy Pelosi standing in her office, staring out the window, watching what's happening at the Capitol. This is a clip that we played 100,000 times. And she goes, I've been waiting for this. Trespassing at the U.S. Capitol. She says, I've been waiting for this. And that's what they charge everyone with. I'm like, this is sick. These people are sick. They either planned it or they had, and they were like waiting for this level of contingency to happen, hoping that it happened so that they

could punish Trump. But anyway, your thoughts and like, what really happened? I need to go back and make one point because I know you'll appreciate it and I feel it so strongly. One of the things that was revealed to me, and look, I was the top prosecutor in D.C., right? I was a top level prosecutor in Maine justice. So I was at the highest levels of this. And so now I am one of them in some ways. But I got to tell you, when I leave and I talk to you, the thing, the single most striking and worrying thing about this is the prosecutors and the judges that allowed this to go on. This is not, you're supposed to, if you're a federal prosecutor, you're supposed to be one of the really good guys, honorable, serious. You're not supposed to be destroying your, it's not, it's not like regular lawyers. Regular lawyers, you know, I sue you over a contract.

We get lawyers and they fight each other. The government is supposed to be the good guys. and these people went to destroy them. They took advantage a lectern guy by not giving him the full video. That was one of the points he said. If they'd given the whole video and showed the jury the video, it's him waving and going away, not looking like a thief. But more troubling, Benny, when I got in there and looked,

Lisa Monaco's emails, I was a U.S. attorney at the time, they took the 1512 charge and they just made it up whole cloth and shoved it onto these people as a way to lock them up. Because even if you do trespass, You're not supposed to be locked up, but you do trespass plus 1512, which is obstruction of official proceeding. And that's a 20-year felony. And they did it on purpose. In other words, they took their power. They found a way to lie and they went after people and destroyed them. And they really did. You know, I tell people all the time, they shot and killed Charlie Kirk. They shot the President of the United States.

And they put people in the gulag to destroy them, to destroy their families. So I come away saying what kind of system do we have when the best prosecutors and the best federal judges are allowing this and manipulating this system against we the people? It's a huge, huge, huge threat to our country, maybe the worst threat. Now, as the J6, I'm of the opinion that the understaffing and under management of the emergency preparedness was intentional and that it was immediately used like it was. used. Now, I was one who had a permit that day to be up on the Capitol grounds. There were nine podium, on nine platforms. They were all spread out, and they were supposed to be having many events because they don't let you have one big event at the Capitol. And so my point here is that everybody knew that there was action and people coming. And once Pelosi and others saw it,

then they exploited it. And then they lied. They covered up. I mean, the FBI was present on site within minutes and they've lied about it. They have not come clean yet to this day, in my opinion, because mostly of cover-up. I don't think cash even knows what was covered up. So once you had, it's Pelosi. Once you have a crisis, you don't let it go to waste. And then they went wild. And the way they went wild is nothing like we've ever seen.

You should think, what if the Democrats have the House and do oversight? That's the kind of crap they will do. Now, they can't put you in jail. But I'll tell you what, they can do a lot to destroy families and bankrupt them. and everything else. So we have the clip here, and maybe we can just, like, roll it as a play beside, because I just, I still just can't believe this clip's real. Nancy Pelosi describing the ultimate charges, trespassing at the Capitol, the accelerated

charges that you're talking about. Like, she already had it in the back of her mind while it's going on. It's insane to me. How do they get the doors open, Ed? Like, how did that happen? And sorry, I'm going to go back, like, do a little January 6 Redux because you spent so much time on this. Yeah.

And you know so much about it. like how did you how do they even these doors like you're not allowed you're not you can't open these doors i'm going to go up to the capital today i'm going to be in the senate today my wife's doing a congressional testimony in the senate today uh you can't open those doors if they don't want them opened exactly well who open the damn doors no exactly well look at i think there's lots of answers because there's lots of doors uh but clearly one of the ways that you handle and a a sort of um a developing situation is you open the doors because you don't want people crushed. You don't want. So it's clear that that happened. Now, was it a strategy to open all the doors at once?

I'm not sure. By the way, I go back to this thing. And again, I've looked at this closely, somebody like Ray Apps, Rayaps who was made into a martyr by 60 minutes. You know, they said that he was somehow chased down by Maga for that guy was on the top 10 FBI Most Wanted list and was never really prosecuted. These are the kinds of questions about a cover-off. that you're like, what else? Look, I was in there. I went to ask them. I said, how did you put all the J-Sixers on the terrorism watch list?

I asked the FBI as the head of the webinarization working group? And they said, well, we don't really know. Don't ask us too many questions. That was our predecessor. And to this day, we don't really know. What we know is all of them were put on. And then when they were pardoned, all of them were taken off. But that's not what a terrorism watch list is supposed to be.

It's not a conviction or pardon thing. It's about conduct. And therefore, it was clearly a lie. So the number of questions, Benny, on exactly how these things happened, one thing I do worry about, we're not answering them fast enough because time keeps marching on and the lies keep being solidified. And we have to, you know, we have to fight through that. Let me say one more thing, Benny. You mentioned earlier about all these victims. I was one of the people advocating internally and I continued to do so and I will do so.

and I had allies all the way up and down, including into the White House, on reimbursing people for the costs of being targeted like this. The survivors of political weaponization are many, and they deserve to be reimbursed for what was done to them, what the costs were. They don't deserve to be given a prize and award anything. They reimbursed for what it was done to them. And that's what everybody meant. It got distracted by the weaponization fund,

and this will be news. I'm sure they'll run this on CNN. I'll tell you this, nobody, nobody from the top all the way down in DOJ and at the White House has given up on the idea of reimbursing people for the costs of being targeted by political weaponization. Nobody's given up. That thing got to be a mess the way that settlement was, but that's because it got to be a mess politically. And it was a mistake how it was done. But there's a lot of people that were wronged and the government has to pay them back. Last thing I'll say, Benny, Reagan said trust and verify about the Soviets.

my thing on the federal government, and especially prosecutors, especially the federal judges, is distrust and rectify. The starting point is total distrust. And you could prove that you're worthy of trust, maybe, but then we have to rectify. And we've got to impeach judges. We've got to fire more prosecutors. We've got to take away the liability protection for prosecutors if they're way outside of what they should do in terms of civil liability. So there's a lot to do to protect our system and we've got to keep after it. So you noted that Nancy Pelosi and the FBI when I said like who was so you've investigated this. You've obviously you have a you have a clearance right. You can see all of the files. You can see everything you need to see generally, right? Is that correct? Do I understand this correct as like the part?

Yeah. Yes. I haven't seen them all. But to be honest, I haven't seen all the files. But I've, I was cleared for it. And so yeah. Were they keeping some from you or they just you can't see these? No, no. It was mostly the scope of the of the of the of the work, you know, that was ongoing. I mean, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, as a head of that, I was doing a lot of different things. So I don't want to overstate what I saw. I mean, sure, I just, since you're a subject matter expert and since this is something that has, I don't think that full answers, I don't think we've gotten the full answers on it, but maybe I'm wrong. You know, maybe you can tell me I'm wrong. Of course. But you said that Nancy Pelosi took advantage of the lack of security, weaponized that for her own political benefit, and that the FBI has not been

forthcoming that they're probably keeping stuff from Cash Patel about what actually happened that day. Video that just played is a handcuffed man that's taken to a security gate unhandcuffed by the cops and they all fist bump them. And I'm like, what is that? Everyone can see the dudes with the, you know, everyone can see the dudes with ear. Here's the, here we go. Here's the guy. The cops uncuff them and they fist bump him like they know the guy. I don't. I don't know what's going on here, man. But there's a lot of people saying it seems like there are lots of undercovers and a lot of potentially like either paid. We know for, as a matter of fact, there was one guy that got seven years for being a member of Antifa and BLM.

And he was actually a left winger that was there to cause mischief and harm. You know, how much of that was going on? How many FBI undercover agents were there? Do they behave criminally? Well, okay, you got a lot of questions there. Let's go back for one second. I'm obsessed with this. What I definitely see and saw is that Nancy Pelosi was managing a security apparatus,

and they knew or should have known what was coming, the Capitol Police, the other federal law enforcement, and especially, remember Donald Trump did offer the National Guard and said, you know, send in the guard, and they refused. And once they allowed the situation to be chaotic, then they took advantage completely. This is a standard Democrat playbook. Frankly, it's a standard government playbook.

So I don't presume to know exactly when they move that way, but it's clear as can be on that front. Back to the other thing, the question of who is in the crowd. I was chief of staff to the governor of Missouri, okay, many years ago. At one point, we had a major event at the Arch in St. Louis, you know, the Arch downtown. I think it was Fourth of July, whatever. And they came to me and they said, we're going to have people embedded in the crowd to tell us what's going on. Same thing, by the way, in Ferguson. I was chairman of the party in Missouri when the lunatics out of towners came in and burned Ferguson to the ground.

And they had agents. They had St. Louis Police Department embedded in the crowd feeding out intelligence. This is completely common. And when the early denials of participation and presence by federal law enforcement clearly lies. And that's now known, right? There's hundreds and hundreds of agents present. The question we don't have answered, and I don't think you're wrong and continue to ask it, is what was the command control?

Were there people participating? And we have not seen that. And you can say, well, Ed, what were you doing? You were in there? I agree. Look, I don't think there has been enough on January 6th, but again, partly because it's such a large scope. But we do have to keep getting to the bottom of it.

But lots of stuff disappeared. I don't want to wait into this, but I was an expert outside and then inside a little bit as U.S. attorney on the pipe bomber. And I was U.S. attorney in D.C. and I said, brief me on the pipe bomb. what's the story? How can we not find this guy? Like we can find, you know, you can drop a cracker on the grounds of the Capitol and there'll be satellites that can see what, you know, face up or face down. I don't know what a cracker is up or down. But so when I was briefed on that,

they said we've got three or four suspects and I won't go into the details of it. But they also said, we lost all the data from one of the carriers that would have covered a lot of the pinging back and forth. Now, I don't know how that could possibly be. I don't know whether I can, can believe that, but that's what they said, and that's what we have had to accept as part of that ongoing situation. So a lot of things don't make sense, Benny. And at this point, it feels to me like we're being told, just keep moving on, guys. You know, you can't go back. It's time. You won the election, go on. And I don't think we should do that, especially as to those that were in charge. There's people in charge at the Capitol Police, for example, that have not really

been put on the hot seat in any meaningful way. And I think they should still. Yeah, I mean, maybe can you can you just wrap up like that pipe bomber saga? Because I know there's still a lot of like, still a lot of confusion here. Like, and let me just, let me just state this. I don't have access to the files. Okay. So I didn't do the investigation. I'm we tried to do this with the Iran war.

Like nobody asked me. Okay, I wasn't in the briefing room. All right. So we're like, we're going to try and defer to people who we know. We know them personally. And they've been helpful to us. And they like, we've worked with them and things like that. So I'm going to defer to that.

the American public, which is what this show is about, the American public says, how does some autistic like brony, like my little pony obsessed like anime kid who lives in the basement in Virginia, like trick everyone, like pull off what has got to be like one of the greatest acts of espionage

in the world in the most surveilled spot on earth and then set a 60th minute kitchen timer to go for 21 hours. How's that pot? How do they do? How do it? You know, that's kind of crazy. How do you do it, Ed?

Well, okay. I'm going to sound like I'm hedging and then you can make fun of me and tease me. But I was U.S. attorney for four months. And that time is when I was briefed. After that, I have not been briefed. So when you talk about what's going on today, I'm a relatively citizen observer. And now I have the knowledge of having been inside. When I was inside for four months, I will tell you, there were glaring absences,

problems that we were dealing with in terms of some of the carriers. Like I mentioned, the lack of cell data to me was insane. Like it was an insane that, you know, you just, you have this incredible riot. Everyone says it's a riot and insurrection. And then somehow you lose some of the data, right? That doesn't make any sense. And I did get briefed on suspects. There were a handful of suspects. That's maybe overstating less than one handful. And they were tracking them down. But I, at the time I was you as attorney, I said, we're talking about four years in. What are we waiting for? Like how you could find the guy, Lego man, in, you know, 60 days, right? You could find. these things and we're still dragging on. All those aspects make me, again, think that the DOJ under Joe Biden was completely corrupted. But I don't have an answer as to where we are now. And I do think, to your point, if you go around the world, Benny and you have, you talk to another country. You say the two major political parties had pipe bombs on their front step during this major time. This would be the number one thing in the history of the world to figure out. And somehow

it's a hundredth on ours. It doesn't make any sense to me, too. And I, again, I, will say this. They have been after it more in the last six months or five months than they had been before. But boy, it's, it is confounding. So you're saying there's just like huge gaps. There's huge pieces of blocks of data and evidence missing. They found all these guys in January 6 because they're cell phones, right? Like a lot of it was cell phone pinging. Yeah, but, but, but, but I mean, I'm like, you just lost cell phone data, you know, pinging on the night before and during the period around that, like, wait a second. I mean, I've, again, I just think that it doesn't. A lot of things. things don't make sense about that. And again, I do think that they're after it more. They put a focus on it. But to your point, it captures your imagination. You're like, hold on, guys. You've got this person walking around placing these bombs. I've always thought it's worthy of attention in a big way as a symbol. And I wondered why it hasn't been a bigger priority before now. And I'm not criticizing.

It feels like the people that had some very key moments and were like architecturally important for this to pop off. have not had to go through proper questioning. Nancy Pelosi, the scaffolding commander, the guy who was cutting all the fences, the guy, you know, the guy who built the gallows. Remember the gallows, Ed? Oh, look, I got a gallo. We're going to, like, get every photographer here.

I'm going to build the gallows. They never got that guy curiously. You know? Like, the guys who seemingly had earpieces, they look kind of similar to what I am wearing right now. Like, who the hell are these people? Those are the ones who never get arrested. And you never get any full explanation for what happened there.

Yeah. And look, and inside DOJ, again, I keep pointing to these people like Lisa Monaco, every major scandal that we now look at and say, why'd you target the Catholics? Why'd you target the school board? That's all Lisa Monaco. That all ends up. She was the DAG at the time.

And to my mind, you know, she was in the Obama White House for some of the key meetings back in the Obama era when the Russia hoax started. These people, you've got to find a reason to get them under oath. And I understand that. You know, one of the things that Biden at DOJ did was they were using the law. They were saying, look, this is the law we're allowed to do it. It's hard to charge someone under that framework because they're sort of smart enough to play that game. It's like when Lee Zeldon found the $6.7 billion being transferred out of EPA to some nonprofit,

it was done legally, but it's totally corrupt. It's totally not what's supposed to happen. And we've got to find a way, you know, I got more grief, Benny, as in my whole time, I got more grief from the press for saying that we should name. and shame these people, that if we cannot indict them, we ought to expose them as corrupt. And that information battle is a real battle because what happens is we're told go into the Article III battlefield and the rules of engagement are going to be that you have to put all your weapons down. We're going to make you be in secret and we're going to beat the hell out of you.

And my point is we go there and we always lose and get executed. over here in the real world, in the narrative world, we got to tell the story. And Lisa Monica, I keep saying, she's making $40, $50 million a year working for Microsoft, and she was at the center of at least scandalous conduct, if not criminal. And we're supposed to sit around and say, oh, Microsoft, I got no problem with Outlook on my system. You've got Mangala working for you, right? So why shouldn't we say that Adolf Eichmann is working at Microsoft, Lisa Monaco, and let her defend her record. of targeting people because that's how her conduct feels in the history of American justice. The only problem with that is that Microsoft was founded by Bill Gates and you know,

you're not going to get worse than that guy. And so you're going to like everyone's going to be a rung below Bill Gates, especially when it comes to our audience. But yes, listen, I completely agree with you. Like this is, this is a great, like, you know, it's amazing how it never happens with the Trump administration people. It every single person that ever worked for Biden, or Obama goes off and get some cush job, eight figures at some big tech firm, and, you know, they're pat it on the back and nobody ever comes for them. And if you look for the Trump administration, you're going to be fighting off subpoenas for the rest of your damn life. Right. And concrete examples like Jack Smith, two weeks before the election, files in court and the motion includes all of the

scurrilous allegations against Trump that he might have chased down. And by doing it that way, he says, I'm just making a filing in the court and the media covers it. That was meant to be in October surprise. It was meant to whack Trump in the election in 2024. Meanwhile, our side is like, well, you know, we're going to be secret. Jack Smith was leaking the whole time. He was leaking to try to impact the politics of the situation. Now, I'm not saying I'm here for leaking or not.

I'm saying if you realize that your enemy is fighting a war and it's asymmetric because your unilaterally disarming, you at least ought to have that. conversation about what are we doing here, you know, and why are we doing it? And I feel like our side is, uh, is really needs to adjust that in terms of the future of the country. What's the darkest thing you saw inside of the DOJ? At the time, it was the targeting of the J-Sixers. What, what, what, what became clear is they knew that they could burden, uh, the J-Sixers and the type of J-Sixer they were arresting because they were working class. They were not that if you were, if you were a billionaire and there was one, you didn't go to jail. You got arrested, but you went home because you could afford a lawyer or

10. But if they were targeting these people and they were happy to put them in the gulag and then went in the gulag and then watching the prosecutors and the judges, the judges in the district court in D.C. were so nasty to these j-sixers. And it's just stunning to me that it happened. I mean, when I watch it and I look at transcripts and all, I saw some of it back then when I was working for some pro bono for some J-Sixers. That treatment of American people, what they did, like the guy that came up to you, Lego, man, I mean,

it takes your breath away to see that targeting. So what should we expect from the Trump DOJ next? What big things are being worked on? Well, we hear a lot. Mike Davis comes on. He's always chirping about the grand conspiracy case in Florida. He's very proud about that.

But who knows? knows, right? What's going to happen? You just came from the building. So first of all, that's that, that's a big case down there. And Joe DeGeneva is a great guy and I think, you know, he's 81 years old. He did yeoman's work for what he did. And now it is where it is. So that's one thing. I think I'd be a little bit more optimistic also broadly. The guy that's the acting dag is named Thad McHotter. You've seen him around a bit. He's a he's a tough, based guy. His number two is Akash Singh. And Akash Singh was there on day one with me and Amel Bovi when we went those early days of great energy. Those two are really running things. And I think they're coming at this with a different kind of energy. They see what's at stake. I think the president is going to come through this midterm and demand and want, you know, direction is going to be for more action. So on all fronts, I think there's a reason to be optimistic. I'm encouraged, by the way, on the Second Amendment. We made progress. We pardoned those guys a few

weeks ago that deserved it, especially Tate. And now we're doing things on this firearms rights restoration, which is important. It's the first time in history. We've got a president giving back Second Amendment rights like Trump is doing. So I think DOJ is going to be energized. The problem is that people tend in that business, as you alluded to, to be thinking about what's next because you don't stay there forever. And I'm talking like U.S. attorneys. It's just natural to think, you know, where are you going to end up? And therefore, you're, you can. tend to pull punches. And I just think we have to have that kind of reinvigoration. I hope the fall is going to be a surprise election where the Republicans sweep and do really, really well. And the

public, like 2024, says, yeah, we're not going for those guys. And then it injects even more energy. But I'm pretty confident. DOJ's got some hard chargers. I think we're in pretty good shape. Well, should judges be impeached more? Yes. Yeah, okay, let me go to that. You're talking about DOJ. They're not going to lead on impeachment. I'm going to lead on impeachment. Look, I sat in a room with the people with the judges. I was U.S. attorney. Now, you don't have to like me. You don't have to like Trump.

I'm the U.S. attorney, and I'm sitting at a table. And some of those judges, Chutkin was one, wouldn't make eye contact with me. That's how deluded these people. These people are not well. And then what they did to individuals, what they do with their power, these people should be impeached. And again, back to information war, back to information battles. We need to lay out how corrupt these people are. And when I say corrupt, I don't know if they're taking money or not,

but their worldview is corrupt. They think there's something they're not. And by the way, their husbands and wives are working in nonprofits, making tons of money. And so are their kids. And they are going on these trips. And we need to shine a light on it. If they want to be so outside of the norm,

then we should impeach them. And we have our rhinos in the Congress won't want to impeach. They get scared of it. But I can tell you this, Benny. Just this conversation saying we're going to impeach these guys, we'll make the rounds of judges. I clerked for high-level judges. They all talk amongst themselves, and they're terrified of accountability. We should have more accountability by impeachment, throw some of these guys out, arrest some of them if we have to, and get people really energized to hold them accountable. Judges can be more liberal. They just can't be lawless.

How would you arrest a judge? Well, I would, the general, I probably went too far and saying that. if you shine a bright light on some of these people that have been so arrogant and so protected that you're going to find that there's misconduct. And look, I was a prosecutor. I saw some of the highest levels of people. Arrogance plus power leads to corruption a lot. So I don't know what the charges would be now, but I can tell you, if you shined a cleeg light on these people who are so arrogant, they believe that they're so above the law. I just don't think that there's a low likelihood you're going to find other things. But I'm not arguing for that with you now. I'm saying,

impeach them is obvious. They've gone way past what their role is. They have gone way past what good conduct should be. And we should be making an argument, build a dossier and say these judges, you know, this one and this one and this one, these are the rulings, this is their conduct, and put their word out and convince the public and the Congress to impeach them. And if you impeach a half a dozen of them, they have to go to trial in the Senate, they all hell will break loose, people will be nervous, and it will modify behavior. Right now you can be lawless and be rewarded with, you know, big jobs and contracts and book deals, we need to make it so if you're lawless, you pay a higher price. Because if you're a Trump supporter, you're going to, as you mentioned,

you're going to pay a price. You're going to be paying a price for a long time. Yes. I don't think that our I mean, I'm just taking a guess here. But I don't think that our founders envisioned the judiciary branch to have a judge to have a judge sparkle. Spooks. Judge Sparkle. Judge Sparkle. Spookanan, is that her name? That's right. From Trinidad and Tobago. Got it. Like, like, I, I would be, I would be totally in favor of having the presidential rules when it comes to judges or members of Congress, which is like, you've got to be born in this country. Like, you can't be somebody who has a foreign passport and dual citizenship and ruling over me in my nation. It's like an insane. It's like insane what kind of a world we're living in. But I really, yeah. Well, but listen, there's a

famous philosopher, I'm going to give you this, Eric Hoffer, and Eric Koffer said, every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and degenerates into a racket. We're in the racket stage of these people who have come to this country, manipulated our rules, and engaged in wholesale corruption. The corruption is often, as you point out, people in positions of power, manipulating the power in a way that's not constitutional. Yours is a good example. You can go do the Somali welfare stuff. The racket of the government, and by the way, USAID was that. And so is the lobbyist class. There's a racket that's going on in this country. And the American people are sick of it. And the only guy, in my experience in the last 25 years, who has actually waited into it and

fought against it is Trump. Others have come along with them now, but he has led the drain the swamp effort. And that's real. Now, is it perfect? No. Is it all that, all the caveats. But at this point, you know, when you see these judges that, as you point out, that the system is broken if this is what they've got. So we're going to have to address it. And more importantly, Benny, guys like me have to come out of government in other words and be willing to go for it. Because I can tell you, I got bar complaints against me. I got people doing this and that. It's a front line combatant mode, but we've got to do it to save the Republic. Maybe the final question here since you brought it up. And I just have to have. a follow-up here, Ed, which is, you know, did USAID run the rap game? Is that why there's no more rap

songs in the top 40 or the top 100? USAID got defunded. Is that why there's no more hurricanes? Everyone's like, we defunded USAID. Suddenly there's no more hurricanes, obviously. And, you know, like left-wing communist governments are collapsing all around the world. And it's like, wow. I mean, you can defund USAID and you just get everything you want. It's incredible. It's, it's, it's, it's incredible. My Iowa Hawkeyes won this weekend in like a miracle play because we defunded USAID. I know that. But listen. University of Michigan is a USAID football team. This is a serious point. You're making a joke. But it's a serious point. Back to my quote, every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business and degenerates into a racket.

America, after World War II, the Marshall Plan, the idea that we're going to fight communism. We were all over the world. We were saying, hey, this is a great cause. We got to do this, make a movement. then it became a business. People are making money in Rome and in your, then it became a racket. And when you realize it's a racket, it's a transfer of wealth. And as you point out, for all kinds of other stuff that are not in our interest. And, and I think it really is true. USAID's collapse changed the whole dynamic. By the way, we need to collapse all the 501c3 organizations that are doing similar stuff in America. But they haven't been directly funded like USAID the entire time. They've just used the tax code. But that's another place. By the way, this happened in the past.

Back in the 1950s, we had the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, the Ford Foundation, and they were corrupt, meaning they were hiding what they were doing and they were infiltrated by communists. That's at least the assertion that looks pretty clear. They looked at it from the Congress, they had a House committee, and they looked at it and said, yeah, this is broken. We better change the laws. And that became the 501c3 tax code, which now, 75 years later, it started as a great cause, became a movement, business degenerates into a racket. The C3 code is used as a racket by so many entities to just funnel money for left-wing causes. Americans, conservatives like our money too much. We don't like to put it in some C-3 to do stuff,

but the left sure does, and they do it all the time. Yeah, no, we give it to churches. We're way more generous than the left by the person, but like we give it to our churches to do, like, actually good work and not to fund the rap game. So wait, can you answer me straight? Is that what USAID was doing? Like, what was USAID? Everything. Everything. It was. It was just funding leftists all over the world doing everything. Everything you can imagine. I mean, just not. And you go look closer.

Do you really think the Somalis in Minnesota are the only ones that were doing no-show rackets? They were doing no-show all over the world. And it wasn't, it was USAID grants to Central Africa were not being, you know, celebrated by the Central Africans. They got some of it. But they were being, it was leftists all over the country from Europe and America who were getting six and seven-figure salaries to be deep, thinkers on these development issues. By the way, I can say I've come by this with a career. In the early 90s, I went to Indonesia for a year, and I was studying water supply efforts. And there was a $5 million grant to Mayda on North Sumatra. And when it got to the streets for

water supply, it was like a million five. And I said to the guy who was in charge of it, where'd the money go? And he said, everybody gets to take a cut in Indonesia on the way down. So in that other parts of the world, they're not bound by the rule of law. They're not bound by the ethics we have. And they're saying, yeah, why not? Bring the money on. And it funded everything under the sun all across the world, and all of it was leftist crap that's bad for us. Leftist crap that's bad for us. I knew you'd take that quote. My late mother would not like me using that word, but I apologize to her.

We'll put it on a T-shirt, Eagle Ed Martin. We're so glad you can get back to tweeting again, too. You know, I know you got a little, I know you got a little more spice in the canon than good morning. How are you? That's right. That's right. All right, okay. All right. Well, here's hoping for the Nancy Pelosi, January 6th investigation. We really are hoping about that. When she finally gets out of Congress, we hope she gets dragged in. We hear that. We hear that's what it might happen. So maybe, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Thank you. Thank you, Eagle Ed. God. God bless you. God, God, bless you. God. God bless you. God. God bless you.

Thanks, Penny. See, amen. Nancy Pelosi, January 6th investigation, that's what we're going to be pushing for. We got ourselves a pardon. Now we're going to be, well, we didn't get a pardon. We were never charged. I was at January 6, meaning I went to like the rally, the Trump rally. And then I saw what was going on at the U.S. Capitol.

I said, this is crazy. I live in D.C. I've never seen anything like this. I think it's probably best to watch this from TV. That's what I did. Ladies and John, you can argue the wisdom of that as you will, but it has made me a strong advocate, frankly, for these victims of the federal government. And we're very proud of our work with all of this. Eagl Ed Martin is just one of those awesome guys that is locked in a solid gold dude.

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