The Benny Show - Neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson Diagnoses the current Mental State of America, Joe Biden and Dr. Fauci
Episode Date: May 27, 2022Dr. Ben Carson joined The Benny Show for an EXCLUSIVE Interview about his new book "Created Equal". We also talked about his thoughts on Roe v. Wade, Biden's mental decline and if he would take Fauci'...s job when Trump fires him in 2024. Check out “Created Equal”: http://bencarsonbook.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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It doesn't take a doctor to look at the state of America
and see that we are in precipitous and perilous decline.
And part of the reason why is because there are so many people
with so many broken brains in charge of so much in this nation.
Now, that includes Joe Biden, who is in obvious and precipitous mental decline running this
nation.
It also includes the hovels and shanty towns in San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York and
Washington, D.C., filled with mentally ill individuals living in squalor, shooting up drugs openly in the
streets, living in filth. These individuals are also mentally ill and suffering. And in between,
you have teachers who are attempting to indoctrinate our students' sexual orientation.
These people are clearly broken individuals.
They're clearly mentally unstable. All you have to do is watch their TikToks.
And then the worst of all, I suppose, is the recent rash of mentally unstable
shooters who I guess if they have one thing in common is that they are deeply possessed
individuals with darkness in their souls who do not have mental stability. They have broken brains
and it leads them to a broken reality and it leads them to do broken, inhumane, monstrous, demonic things. We've seen those tragedies splashed across our headlines far too often
and with far too much frequency as of late.
And so, ladies and gentlemen, we decided for this episode to invite on a doctor
to diagnose this country.
From Joe Biden to the shooters to the teachers and educators,
to the mentally ill wandering our streets in squalor.
We thought of no better person other than Dr. Ben Carson, the greatest neurosurgeon on planet Earth, to come in and truly assess America's mental state right now.
He actually has a new book out about this and restoring the soul of America.
But you can't do it without restoring the mental health of a country that seems to be going through a mental health crisis right now,
as much as an identity crisis. A lot of
mentally ill people and broken people in charge of so much in this nation. Before we bring Ben
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parler.com. Now, without further ado, let's welcome on the good doctor to tell us and diagnose exactly what's wrong
with this country right now. Joining us now, Dr. Ben Carson, the man, the myth, the legend,
and legendary because he's one of the very rare conservatives and certainly one of the
rarest of all a Trump- Trump appointed cabinet member who can get
on the New York Times bestseller list. Bestseller with his brand new book, Created Equal, The Painful
Past, Confusing Present, and Hopeful Future of Race in America. Dr. Carson, thank you for joining
the program. Thank you for having me. So let's discuss this milestone here. The New York Times bestseller list is legendary
for keeping conservatives off their list, even though we sell the most books. But you are on it.
Congratulations. Well, thank you. You know, I tried to take an honest look at race in America,
even handed look. But the thing that I think we'll come across is that America is changing.
And on the racial front, it's really for the good. You know, in my lifetime, there's been a dramatic
change in racial relationships. When I was a youngster and a Black person came on television
in a non-cerval role, it was a big deal. You called everybody into the living room to look. And today, we have Black admirals and generals
and CEOs of Fortune 500 companies and heads of foundations and university presidents,
including Ivy League. We've elected a president of the United States twice,
or a Black vice president. We haven't reached Nirvana, but to say that we have
not made progress in my lifetime would be just a total fallacy. And, you know, you look at the fact
that people are using race as a cajole to beat people down, to make white people feel guilty,
to make Black people and minorities feel like victims. And that's why everything keeps
circling back to race, when race is not relevant to everything. And I say that as a neurosurgeon
who opens people's heads and operates in the thing that really makes them who they are,
their brain. Their skin doesn't make them who they are. Their hair doesn't make them who they are.
It's their brain that makes them who they are.
And we need to concentrate a little more on this incredible gift that God gave us, the human brain and what it can do.
And stop acting like animals.
I point out in the book that when you look at it, let's say a dog brain versus a human brain, surface topography is quite similar, but the dog has a very well-developed midbrain
because that's what allows you to react.
That's why animals react so much faster than we do.
Cat-like reflexes.
But we have much better developed frontal lobes
where you engage in rational thought processing,
extracting information from the past
and mixing it with information from the
present, projecting it into the future. We can plan and strategize complex things a year, five
years, 10 years, 20 years in advance because of those kinds of brains. And we can also analyze
things like the content of a person's character. And that's what Martin Luther King meant.
He said he looked forward to the day when people would be judged
not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character.
In other words, people would start acting like people and not like animals.
There's a plaque on the Lincoln Memorial with those words emblazoned in it.
It's a huge bronze plaque.
I want my kids to be judged by their character and
not their skin color. It seems as though you'd be tagged for hate speech if you were to tweet
something like that online. Now, how far has the modern day left, which I think you cover in your
book, often uses race as a cudgel for power? How far have they fallen from the dream of Martin
Luther King? Well, they're completely in the opposite direction. You'll notice they don't talk
about him very much because, you know, they want victimhood. And you think about what happens
when you create white guilt. You get people who aren't going to be as vocal. So now when you're
talking about defunding the police, letting dangerous criminals
out to terrorize neighborhoods, not enforcing our southern border and a host of other things,
maybe you don't get quite the same pushback. And, you know, once you can convince somebody
that they're a victim, they are a victim. They begin to act like victims, not really taking advantage of the incredible
things that exist in our country. You know, just as an example, I point out in the book
that Ghanaians and Nigerians who live in this country, there's little or no wealth gap.
Isn't that interesting? But if you go and you study,
let's take a Nigerian family here,
you'll find that a bachelor's degree is the baseline.
That's where you start.
And there's such an emphasis on education,
such an emphasis on family, family structure.
And if you take traditional Black American families who have those values,
there's also very little or no wealth gap.
So maybe we're looking at the wrong thing when we're calling everything systemic racism.
Maybe there's some other factors that we should be looking at to try to ameliorate the situation.
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powerful that nucleus is in order to raise children up and have them as functional parts of
society. However, it doesn't seem to be a focus. Right now, the country is going through some real
painful moments watching another school shooting. And oftentimes the school shooters come from
fatherless homes. It seems to be a trend. I know you've spoken at the Heritage Foundation many
times before me is a really beautiful article from the Heritage Foundation talking about
fatherlessness and the correlation between fatherless homes and mass shooters, they went all the way back to Columbine.
And the correlation is very strong.
And it's also strong for poverty.
Yes.
That kind of leads frequently to desperation. You know, if you look at Black families that are headed up by a single female, their poverty rate is 45 percent, 45 percent.
Headed up by a single male, it's 36 percent.
Both parents, it's 12 percent.
I mean, that's way beyond statistical variation.
So why aren't we talking about those kinds of things?
Because when you do talk about them, you're accused of being a racist or some other horrible thing.
But I think this is a time when people have got to stand up for what they believe in.
You can no longer stand in the corner with your head down and hope no one calls you a nasty name,
because you cannot be the land of the free
if you're not home of the brave. And this is tipping time in our country right now.
And how quickly things can change. You've already seen in the last year and a half
how we've gone from relative prosperity to desperation. And unfortunately, we're not even at the bottom of the barrel yet.
We're going to keep going down because of the policies that have been enacted.
Hopefully in November, you know, there comes some relief.
But one of the things that I emphasize is how important it is for people in a democratic republic, which is what we live in, to know who they're voting for
and make sure that you vote your values.
And that's what we're not doing.
You know, people are going into the voting booth
and they're looking for a name that looks familiar.
You know, it could be Satan.
You say, yeah, I know that name and check that one off.
You know, in many cases Satan. You say, yeah, I know that name and check that one off. You know, in many cases it is. And that's why we keep getting the same thing over and over again.
And we have a responsibility as citizens to study and to know who these people are that we say represent us.
And you'll find when you start sending them, a lot of people whose names you know don't represent your values whatsoever.
And this is your opportunity to change that.
Why don't we talk about families?
I know that your mother had a profound effect on you and your upbringing.
We've spoken about that before.
But people with absent parents, young children with absent parents are poisoned and destined
statistically to a much worse life. And I do wonder why we don't discuss this as urgently
as any other problem in this nation. Well, you know, the Brookings Institute,
which is not known for conservatism, did a huge study on poverty
and concluded that there were three things
that you could do that would reduce your rate
of living in poverty to 2% or less.
Number one, finish high school, the importance of education.
Number two, get married, the importance of family. Number three, wait until
you're married to have children. The importance of using those frontal lobes to plan and strategize.
And you just did those three things. We used to know that, you know, that's news now.
And, but unless we begin to talk about these things, we can't continue to let those who want to fundamentally change our nation
carry the conversation.
We have to get into that conversation.
And of course, they've tried
by taking control of most of the media,
taking control of the school system,
replacing faith in God with faith in government,
and raising the national debt to astronomical levels so that you could justify massive taxation,
redistribution of wealth, and total dependence on the government.
But we've got to recognize what's going on, and we've got to resist it.
This is our last chance. I really did believe it. It does seem as though there is a,
you said earlier, a sense of desperation
that seems to be compounded over and over again
by a crisis after crisis after crisis.
I'd like to, simply because it's in the news
and there have been multiple mass shootings,
people are blaming mental illness
as somebody who's so well studied in the human
brain and its formation. Does this vibe with you? Do you believe that mental illness is the major
cause, perhaps undiagnosed mental illness of what we're seeing right now? I think the environment that one grows up in plays a tremendous role in one's mental state.
And if you're in an environment where there's constant friction and hatred and division is being preached, and also where respect for life is not taught. You know, as we've grown further away from respecting life
from the womb to the tomb, we've grown much more coarse in our relationships with each other.
And, you know, I really think we need to stop and take a deep breath here and look at where we came
from. How did we get to be such an incredible nation? How did we
go from a bunch of ragtag militiamen to the pinnacle of the world in record time? It was not
a coincidence. It was because of certain values and principles that we espoused. Number one,
our faith. Number two, liberty, the concept of freedom. Number three, community, the ability to work
together for a common cause. And number four, life, our interest in preserving life and respecting
life and respecting each other and respecting each other's views. And as we've moved away from that, the deterioration can be expected.
It's what happens every time that happens in any society historically throughout history. We're not
going to be any different, but we do have the examples of others. And if we would just pay
attention to them, and if there is a big change in the government in November and subsequently two years from now, it will be very important for people to realize that what the people of America want are leaders who actually care about the people, who care about the issues that affect the people, not about some political party, not about some political ideology. I think the people
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it's emblazoned in the first couple of words of our founding documents, life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness. And you can't have happiness or liberty without life. These days,
that seems to be a deeply abiding issue as the Supreme Court presumably is set to strike
down Roe v. Wade. Your thoughts? Well, first of all, it was a horrible thing to leak that
information because I think that has done irreparable damage to the trust that exists
in the Supreme Court. I don't know that in our lifetime is that going to be repaired.
But it is good
that we are trying to move back
toward the system as it was designed.
You know, major social issues
involving life and death
should be in the hands of the people
and their representatives,
not in the hands of unelected justices.
And so we are moving in that direction.
Anybody who truly cares about freedom
and the system that our country was designed under
should be delighted about that,
regardless of their stand on abortion.
And we also need to bring some common sense into this.
You know, the reason that younger people tend to be more pro-life now is because they're growing
up in an era where the technology has allowed us to actually see what's in that mother's womb.
It's pretty hard to say that that's a meaningless bunch of cells when it has a face and it has hands and fingers
and toes and a heart that's beating and it can move around and it can react to the environment.
That's very, very difficult. It's much more sophisticated than the snail darter,
which a lot of these people are going around trying to say. So we really ought to think about that. And then think about why is it
that a person who kills a pregnant woman gets charged with two murders,
but you can kill the baby and not be charged with any murder?
I mean, that's an incredible, it's an incredible question. It seems like they're dehumanizing. It seems to be a cult of dehumanization and death, the modern day left.
And your interview recently about your new book with Politico, you say that it's your
consideration of slavery that actually had you change your opinion from pro-choice to
pro-life.
Can you expound on that?
Yeah.
Well, you know, I was, I grew up in Detroit and Boston and New beat and raped and tortured and killed
these people because they thought they were their property. I said, what if the abolitionists
had said, I don't believe in abortion myself, but I didn't
think that I had the right to say anything about it as far as other people were concerned.
But then I said, this is exactly the same situation. Those poor little babies have no one to speak for them. And you have people who want to kill them.
And what happens if you don't speak up?
And the Bible actually talks about it.
And the 24th chapter of Proverbs 10 to 12 says, what about those who are drawn into death?
Don't you have any responsibility?
And if you don't say anything,
doesn't your father in heaven know that you didn't say anything?
So we have a responsibility to protect those babies.
At the same time, we have responsibilities to make sure that those women who find themselves in desperate situations
know that there are alternatives.
There are people who will adopt are alternatives. There are people who
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Different is calling regular morality.
However, it also goes against the teaching of Christianity.
The Catholic Church is against abortion in all forms.
Nancy Pelosi banned from taking communion by her archdiocese in San Francisco this week.
And do you think that's the right choice? Well, it certainly would be more consistent with the principles that the church espouses.
And, you know, I think we need to just be more aggressive in explaining to people what's going on. You know, what happens at
conception? You know, you have the male gamete, female gamete, they both have 23 chromosomes,
they come together, they form a zygote, which has 46 chromosomes, complete set, it's not the mother,
it's not the father. And in a matter of just a few weeks, you know, you can start seeing the formation
of the human form within six to eight weeks. You've got a heart that starts to beat.
You've got a little face, little eye sockets, and a nose, and a mouth, and a little finger.
Come on! People just really need to stop
sticking their head in the sand
and denying what is clear reality.
Yeah.
You did the separation of the conjoined twins.
I have to assume that this was,
was this relatively soon after birth?
Within the first year.
There were several sets of twins that I operated on.
But, you know, even though those cases garner a lot of attention, you know, I feel the same about every kid that you can give a second chance to. And I run into people all the time on airplanes,
various places around the country.
You operated on me when I was a little baby.
You operated on my cousin.
And even when I was a head secretary,
I remember going over to FEMA to thank everybody after one of the hurricanes.
And afterwards, two of the people came up to me and said, hey, Doc, you recognize this scar?
Really?
Absolutely.
How many total people have you operated on?
Do you have a number?
Yeah, about 15,000.
I think that's a pretty enormous population.
That's as big as my hometown in Iowa.
It was a busy life.
But, you know, so many of my colleagues and people at medicine, you know, they just work
so incredibly hard and they do everything they can to try to save lives. And, you know, I really felt for some of our colleagues in medicine who were given such
a difficult time over the COVID situation because they didn't particularly want to take
the vaccine.
In many cases, they had, you know, a firsthand encounter.
They had the disease.
They had the antibodies, they know from their medical
training that if you have the antibodies, you're probably in the best situation. And yet somebody
comes along and tells you, no, you have to take this vaccine. And now information is coming out
that that perhaps is not the best thing to do. And in many cases, they lost their jobs.
A lot of the nurses lost their jobs.
It's just so unreasonable.
And I hope we learn from this.
You know, let's not mix politics with science.
And, you know, let's actually look at the real facts.
You know, we've known what natural immunity is for hundreds of years, from times of smallpox to the Civil War. And we know how effective it is. Andfunction research in the labs in Wuhan? And it seems like there's a lot of unanswered questions. Your take on Dr. Fauci, Dr. Carson?
Well, you know, I've known Dr. Fauci for many, many years.
And, you know, I have a tendency not to talk about people.
But I hope I hope he will spend some time thinking about the Hippocratic Oath and what the real obligations are.
Yeah. Do no are. Yeah.
Do no harm, right?
Exactly. First.
It seems as though a considerable amount of harm is potentially being done right now
as we are in the throes of watching another eradicated disease, smallpox, you mentioned during the
Civil War. Now we have monkeypox. I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you your thoughts on this seemingly
global reemergence of this eradicated disease. Well, I suspect there are those who are scheming right now, trying to figure out how can we use this,
or how can we use the fact that COVID is getting more contagious, but less virulent.
Can we use this in some way to control the population, to control things things to shut things down. They've never had a better situation in terms of
controlling the population than they did during the COVID time. But I think if they try to shut
the population down again, they're going to find that the American people aren't going to stand for
it. They just are not going to. We're not quite like people in other parts of the world who let these things happen to them.
And I just don't believe it's going to happen.
Well, they're going to try.
The World Health Organization is at the Davos meeting now trying to create a pandemic treaty that would be binding for all 196 nations.
The World Health Organization, led by Dr. Tedros, known communist from Ethiopia,
and somebody who I think has a pretty terrible record with pandemics, but he just voted back in
and now they're going to try and give themselves the authority to lock all of us down.
But they can't do it. They cannot do it because of the way our Constitution is written.
And it's going to require, you know, a major vote from our Congress with much more than a plurality of votes.
It's not going to happen.
But still, it is worrisome that that kind of stuff is going on and that they think they even have a chance at something like that because of the leadership that we now have.
Yeah. You've served President Trump, one of the longest serving, I mean, the longest serving cabinet member?
Well, I served the whole time. Let's put it that way.
Right. Current thoughts on current administration?
Well, you know, I really am. I feel sorry, quite frankly, for the current president, because I don't think he was up to the job.
He's elderly. He's got some of the things that elderly world with complex issues going on.
We need someone at the top of their game.
And we really need to start thinking about that as we move into the future.
It sounds like you're talking about mental decline and perhaps early onset dementia. There's been a
lot of people talking about it. No one knows the human brain better than you. Your diagnosis?
Well, you know, when we put in place lifetime terms for Supreme Court justices and other federal agencies, the average life expectancy was under 50.
So there really wasn't much incidence
of mental decline secondary to age.
Now we don't have that situation.
We haven't evolved with the times
and we really need to start talking about it, not necessarily putting limits
on age and service, but having certain safeguards, such as the need for mental status exam
annually after you reach a certain age. That just makes sense. And that's not a partisan thing. I
mean, it would apply to everybody and it would be protective mechanism for us as a society.
Mm hmm. Back to created equal. I know you spent an enormous amount of time in the book on critical
race theory. Joe Biden, as you were just previously talking about, has really embraced equity agendas, really embraced critical race
theory. You hear it woven through the speeches that are written for him and he repeats them.
And can you please talk about this poison? What's the solution here? Because it does seem to be the
prevailing academic theory of the first year of the Biden administration. Well, first of all, we have to hold our feet to the fire. That means not let
the people who are the purveyors of this simply say, oh, we're not doing that,
but we're not teaching that or change the name of it, it is being taught.
You know, a friend of mine, his eight-year-old granddaughter came home crying
saying, Grandpa, am I evil because I'm white? She's learned that somewhere.
You know, that's just so unfair to do that to our children.
But I personally believe that it's part of what Khrushchev was talking about 60 years ago when he said to Eisenhower, your grandchildren's children will live under communism and we won't have to fire one shot.
And what do you have to do to that?
You have to control the education process so you can indoctrinate the kids.
They know that. It was Vladimir
Lenin who said, give me your children
to teach for four years and the seed that I sow
will never be uprooted. They also
know that you have to control the media so you can
spoon feed the people what you want them to know.
Block them from what you don't want them to know, like Hunter Biden's computer before the election.
And replace faith in God with faith in government and raise the national debt to astronomical levels.
You do those things, you gain control.
You create chaos.
You convince the people that the system that they have doesn't work.
Look at all the chaos around you.
We need to go to a different system.
And there are those who want to fundamentally change who we are.
And critical race theory and indoctrination is a very big part of that.
How do we stop it?
I know you cover this in the book, and I don't want you to give up any of the...
I want everyone to go and get the book.
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Or anywhere.
How do we stop it?
Well, it's called courage.
You can't be the land of the free if not the home of the brave.
You've got to stand up for what you believe in.
It's already started.
It started in Virginia last November.
Parents of all political stripes just said, no, we're not standing for this.
And now you see parents all over the country running for the school board and paying attention to what's going on.
That's how we stop it.
We pay attention.
We'd be vigilant.
We'd be part of the process and not spectators.
Yes.
A hypothetical here in conclusion, Dr. Carson, Donald Trump runs again in 2024.
He asked you to take Dr. Fauci's job after firing him.
What's your answer?
My answer is that, you know, I'm getting older.
And I would love to see younger people getting involved and doing things.
People who are still going to be around 20 years later to see the impact of
what they did.
Yes.
Yes.
That does seem.
I do have to say,
I will always do what I feel God wants me to do.
I just hope that's not it.
We do need God's will a little more in this nation.
It is remarkable to see the precipitous decline of the greatest country in the
world.
When we took God out of schools and we take prayer out of schools and when we,
when we decide to become an immoral people,
look what's happened over the last 50 to 70 years really is.
We need to just look at our money from time to time.
It says, in God we trust. We need to look at our Declaration of Independence. It talks about
certain and inalienable rights given to us by our Creator. We need to say the Pledge of Allegiance
to our flag. It says we are one nation under God. Let those godly principles come back.
There's nothing wrong with those. That's the reason that we became such an outstanding nation.
It was not a coincidence. Yeah. Yeah. There's no coincidences. There's God's providence on this
land. And I think with the great awakening, we could perhaps get it back, but it seems in a perilous state right now. So thank you, Dr. Carson for fighting.
Well, thank you for being a patriot. We really appreciate you.
The honor, the honor is all mine. I don't have any,
I don't have any scars to show you.
Maybe I had to have a few extra IQ points if you had operated on me when I was
a kid, but here we are. I just thank
you so much. And again, ladies and gentlemen, Created Equal, the painful past, confusing present
and hopeful future of race in America. You heard the good doctor talk about it. And you can go to
bencarsonbook.net to get the book right now, a New York Times bestseller.
We don't know how he did it, but thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Take care.
Dr. Ben Carson, what a total champion.
Isn't it calming just speaking with him?
Isn't it wonderful just to sit back and listen to a man who clearly has something that so few do right now.
And that thing is wisdom.
Dr. Carson has wisdom.
He has experience.
He has love for this country.
And we need more people like that making decisions.
He also is a Christian, a man of God, and a patriot.
And it's always inspiring to be in his presence,
let alone talk with him for an hour.
So we hope you enjoyed our interview with Dr. Carson.
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and speak with these incredible Americans
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That's our only motivation.
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Former MLB All-Star Sean Casey, a.k.a. the Mayor, keeps hitting it out of the park.
Take my 30 years of experience.
Take the wisdom and knowledge I've learned from the failures when I got sent down my rookie year.
All the injuries I had to overcome.
Your mind is the most important tool you have in life.
Be relentless. Keep charging.
It matters how you talk to yourself, how you look at the world.
That matters. We talk about that.
I don't know. I'm fired up. Baseball's back, and it's going to be incredible.
I love it.
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