The Benny Show - PANIC: FBI Opens Full Investigation into Biden White House Cocaine, J6 Pipe Bomber CAUGHT? Trump.. with Guests Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Mark Mitchell

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

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All right, so let's just get this out of the way. Klein, can you grab that post from Senator Rick Scott this morning? It's on my feed. Post from Senator Rick Scott this morning, it's on my feed. Today marks my last year in my 30s, 39 today. As I've said many, many times, no serious man should ever celebrate his birthday after the age of 21.

Some arguing in the producers' chat this morning, Jerry, for instance, arguing that maybe 25 should be the day that you celebrate based on, I think, insurance rates if you're a good driver. But either way, we want to take this moment to say that the single greatest gift that anybody could ever ask for is a safe and prosperous nation, which is what we said this morning. And so what we wish to create and establish here on this program is just that. I have four kids, I have a wife and a family, spent the Memorial Day weekend with them, and this is the greatest gift that you and I, that we can build together with some of our friends. Some will be joining the program today.

I'm very much looking forward to asking Rudy about, very much looking forward to asking Rudy about the prison that he built that housed Epstein. Nobody knows that prison better. That's what we're gonna get into with Rudy. It's gonna be very interesting. We're gonna break some news with Mark Mitchell as well. But anyway, the point is that every single show,

we have a rowdy crew here, and we have the comments now finally on screen. Okay, there we go, there we go. And we are thankful. Ultimately, we're thankful to be able to do God's work, salt and light, here in this wonderful chat. And so we just wanna do massive appreciation, gratitude, and shout outs to you

as we build a better country together and a moral and good people leave the country better than they found it. So that's what we're gonna do here. And that's the great gift. I do live in Florida and it is a wonderful thing to be able to like live in a prosperous place that is safe. And here we are with my family this past weekend.

This is my grumpy four-year-old who swam way too much at the pool. She is very good swimmer. All right. That's the point, isn't it? All right. So let's lock and load here. The purpose of my life

and the purpose of everything that we're building here is you. Continuation of our value system. I have a feeling that if you're watching this program, you and I share values. And that's like the point of parenthood. That's the point of all society. Imagine a society where nobody passed on their value system,

that society collapses in a single generation. In fact, that's what every massive collapse of all civilizations do. The only way that you continue your tongue, your people, your histories, your traditions, Christmas, the only way you keep any of that going, and the Super Bowl, right? President Trump's military parade

that will be happening in a couple of weeks. It's gonna be very exciting. We're gonna be there. The only way you keep that continuing is to have children and impart your values in them as you raise them, right? And so as we join together in this, it's a good thing to acknowledge,

one, the parents out there, massive shout out to you, parents, grandparents, young people who wanna be parents. There's a lot of those at this company actually. And then two, to take a really quick primrose trip down memory lane and see what bad parenting looks like. So good parenting, passing on your values, establishing a nation, leaving the nation better than you found it. Bad parenting, letting your coke head kid wander around on the White House balcony.

Here's Hunter Biden, ladies and gentlemen, just wobbling around on the White House balcony, sniffing and snorting and tapping his face for no reason other than, well, we assume that Hunter's back on the old nose powder, nose candy. Here we go. This is Hunter Biden, ladies and gentlemen. This was last 4th of July. This is what our country was enduring, This is what our country was enduring last 4th of July. Hunter Biden, packing his nose, acting like a complete lunatic. Look at the other one. This other one's crazy.

Like he comes walking out like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on? What's going on? The other one, Klein, please. Other Clinton, please. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, hi, hi, hi, what's happening?

Oh boy. And we wondered at the time, like would we ever learn what was happening inside the White House? I mean, according to all available sources at this point right now, Hunter Biden was acting like the chief of staff. ALX grabbed that clip of Tapper. Glad that clip of Jake Tapper is effectively saying that. Boy, we went off on Jake Tapper this past weekend on a Piers Morgan hit.

But yeah, like Jake Tapper was like, listen, everybody at the White House just knew that Hunter Biden was effectively running the place. Is that why they were able to find cocaine in three different locations inside of the White House. Oh, there's just one baggie and we found it in a cubby hole. That's not true. They found little stashes of cocaine all over the White House. What the hell was going on there? Can anybody explain whose cocaine it was? You know, we were just at the White House this past weekend. We chilled out with Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. And we had a great time.

But let me tell you what happened when I went into the White House. When I went into the White House, go meet Pete. We have more to come on this. We have some very big announcements. We're very excited about what we're working on. We told you we were cooking. We, and more to come on this, we have some very big announcements. We're very excited about what we're working on. We told you we were cooking. We're very excited about what we were cooking.

We had a great Friday and Thursday at the White House, a lot of meetings, a lot of interest in this audience. A lot of people inside of the White House, very, very impressed with what we're building here. You, me, this chat, how alive it all is. And ladies and gentlemen, Pete Hegseth is just one of those guys. But before heading into meet with Pete Hegseth,

I had to do something quite humiliating. I just call it what it is. It is humiliating. I had to stand there on a rubberized mat in front of a cage. And I had to put my hands up and I had to let a drug sniffing dog sniff me. That's not just me. They didn't single me out. This is what happened with everyone at the White House. Everybody who's a visitor to the White House residence building has to go through this process.

It's something that of course wouldn't allow you to carry bags of cocaine into the White House. These are very mean German shepherds who are snarling and slobbering and sniffing quite aggressively on the other side of the cage. Have you been to the White House? Then you've experienced this. I know that there are members of our staff online right now who can attest this is what you have to do. So how in the hell did a baggie, multiple bags of cocaine get into the White House? It really begs the question, who was it?

Well, if you know anything about White House security, you'll know that, well, that security gets waived for specific protectees. If you are someone who has facial recognition, there's a very specific classification, it has a red badge when you're going to the White House or no badge, but facial recognition, someone who's famous, someone who's the president's family, on facial recognition alone, they will wave you into the White House. You'll be able to skip security. The only way conceivably that anyone gets in with a bag of cocaine in the White House is they are so well known and so famous that they get waved in. Who gets waved in? People in motorcades.

You get brought in in a motorcade, you walk out the door and they wave you in. This isn't really a hard case to crack, to be quite honest with you. This is not like, this is not difficult. There are only very few people that can get waved into the White House, but that's how it works. Again, I had a drug sniffing dog snarl and slobber on me as I am walking into the White House. There's no way that some dude in a tourist group brought a bag of cocaine into the White House. It's not possible. Hey Alex, do we have cringe Jean Pierre saying that? If not, let's grab that.

Cringe Jean Pierre back at there, back in the day, was like, oh, it was just a tourist group. Look at this, look at this photo. Here's the cocaine. Oh, it was just a tour group. Tourist groups don't get access to these little cubbies. Tourist groups have to go through the snarling drug sniffing dog arrangement.

Tourist groups can't, that's a significant amount of cocaine. I've never done cocaine, but like you're a very popular guy in the club in Miami. If you're walking around with that, like a dog, a dog that's like at the end of its rope, like 15 year old German shepherd that can barely stand would be able to sniff that. Okay. At the end of their career, honorable noble dogs, mean looking dog. I'm going to tell you this is a good, it's a, it is a, if anything, it is an intimidation

practice going into the white house to have a dog do that to you. The point is, is that you ain't getting in unless you're a Biden family member. Now we're picking on Hunter, but why don't we like start at the top? Because you know, there are these really curious videos that pop up from time to time of there being two Bidens. that pop up from time to time of there being two Bidens. Anybody who knows someone who's a drug addict or is on any type of mainline narcotic knows that part of the part of the process of this drug affecting your bloodstream is that you can't close your eyes. You can't blink.

You're like zonked out of your mind. You might talk a little different. You might act a little different. You may well become a very different person when you're on a strong enough drug. This is the point for these addicts. They don't like who they are. They're fighting with God against who God made them. It's a real problem in our society all across the spectrum, but let's stay on track here. Is Joe Biden the one who is using the cocaine?

Let's just ask all, let's ask the question as though we're playing a game of clue here. All right. Because the big news this weekend was that the FBI is now going to be investigating the cocaine and the FBI knows whose cocaine it is because a nose was in the cocaine. They have DNA evidence inside of the Coke. So look, really wouldn't be a hard game of clue. But here's, here's the best clue that we have that it might be Joe Biden's. A clip we love to play. We're the only show that ever plays the damn thing. But here's proof of there being two Joe Biden's at the White House come.

Be pro insurrection and pro cop. You can't be pro insurrection and pro democracy. You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-cop. You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-democracy. You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-American. Donald Trump lacked the courage to act. The brave women and men in blue all across this nation should never forget that. That's just one clip. Gotta show the other one.

Yeah, sorry, Alex. You got to grab the back and forth here. That's okay. Ladies and gentlemen, as we get the actual, I mean, that's one version of Biden, but what's important is that you play the back-to-back with Joe Biden in the same suit, the same place, the same location

on what I believe is like the same day. And he's a very, very different person. Here we go. So as we fight inflation, you can't be pro insurrection and pro cop. Bringing down gas prices is a big part of the job. You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-democracy. You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-American. And here's the good news.

Gas prices have dropped every day this summer. That's more than 40 days in a row. Donald Trump blocked the courage. Look at the eyes. Look at the pupils. You don't even need to hear it. Like, his different voice. I mean, what's the explanation here? There are two Joe Bidens. Jake Tapper also says this. There were two Joe Bidens. But like, you know, I think the better explanation than like a rubber skin suit

and there being multiple people playing Joe Biden, which hey, somebody, you know, happy to entertain that, it's Joe Biden evidence. I think the better explanation is that Joe Biden's clearly on something. You feel bad picking on him, I guess a little bit now because we know that he had terminal cancer at the time. So who knows what the hell the guy was on?

Who else could it be? Who else could possibly be the coke head in the White House? Because according to Secret Service, well, it was someone in the Biden family, but not who you'd expect. That's what we've heard so far. Ashley Biden? Ashley Biden was on lots of drugs.

Ashley Biden is somebody who admittedly was just an addict that completely blitzed out of her mind. Here's Ashley Biden. I'm telling you, I'm getting the fuck off, and there's a reason why I'm getting the fuck off, and everyone can either believe it, or they cannot believe it. The very man who helped shape US monetary policy

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behaving like a complete zonked out weirdo. Same night, right after this video, they find the cocaine. I guess that's like the crazy girl who had a meltdown on the airplane, but it's a little profane for the show, thanks. But here's Ashley Biden, you can see her like lurking around, like touching and grabbing and feeling things. And if you're around people who are on mainline narcotics, you know this is something that they do. This is something that they're constantly doing.

Like look at, look at, she's going crazy. Look at her. She's going nuts. Like rubbing up her father. Like, look at this. Look at that. That's her hand behind Joe. That's not Jill. This is Ashley. I, you know, again, something to consider.

Ladies and gentlemen, as soon as they, as soon as that footage of both Hunter and Ashley like behaving like zoinked out of their freaking minds aired, they found the cocaine. The Biden's left right afterwards for Camp David so that Joe Biden can go do his cancer treatment. No doubt that they were hiding from the American people. As soon as this was done, they find the cocaine stashed away in bathrooms, under carpets, behind sinks. It's not read the official report. It's not just in the cubby. And then the White House went into panic mode. I'm telling you,

you can like, there's a lot of, there's a lot of moments where like, you can see the breakdown, the cracks happening, the fissures inside of the Biden regime, but this is the one I think that like really broke them. They've tried to blame Kamala. Now Kamala has plenty of behaviors, let's just say, that would indicate that she's on something. We all know this. Based on my observations, I would assume the drugs that Kamala is on comes directly from a box of wine. Because that's the way that she acts. But Kamala has acted freaking like blitzed out of her mind before. Many just assume that she's a childless aunt, wine drunk. The White House decided they were going to blame Kamala and began to leak that this cocaine was found

at a place where only the vice president enters. Well, that's unique and not true. And so it obviously fits the bill. It's like, this is par for the course for the Biden White House. But is this the moment where the official Kamala sabotage and breakdown occurred? Remember, at this moment, there hadn't been any debate with Donald Trump. There hadn't been any like Biden dropping out.

The real conversation in Washington, DC was, is Kamala Harris going to be kicked off the ticket to bring on somebody smarter and more beloved by the American people? Now who that person would be, I don't know. This is what the White House tried to do, throwing Kamala under the bus. Kelly, the big changes where this was found, it was found by my observation in a much more secure place, limited access place, than that West Wing reception area. It's still a publicly trafficked, a frequently trafficked place, but it's down near the situation room right off West Executive down below.

And normal people, just average people just can't get in there even with the entry from the Northwest Gate. Well let me bring you up to date with the reporting that I have. What we have learned is that there are in fact two West Wing entrances. You know that, I know that, for the benefit of our audience. And now the investigation has progressed and so they're saying the West Executive entrance, which as you noted is closer to the Situation Room and closer to the Navy mess where there's the facilities for food and so forth.

It is also next to West executive drive. That's where, for example, the vice president's vehicle is parked. It just happens, the cocaine was happened, had to be found right where the vice president's vehicle was parked. You see, Kamala, train, throne. But the official report shows that cocaine baggies

were found inside the White House. Here's the best that our production team can do when establishing a clip of like, is Kamala drunk or is she on drugs? Let's have a listen. We debated out, have good, vigorous debates. Have a good fight over policy. That's good for democracy.

That's drunk. Okay, that's drunk. She's blackout. Okay, she's blitzed, but in a different way. She's not on cocaine. But I don't know, show me the evidence. Yeah, they have the evidence. This one's so funny.

Here is actually a harvested you guys. You actually do grow it. So this is what it looks like when it comes out. Do not touch it. Do not touch it. Do not touch it. Do not touch any of the property. Like a fourth grader.

They have to like demand that she not touch the what I assume to be some stupid wind turbine thing. I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? All fake. The point is that it could be many people inside of the Biden White House

and they're protecting the Bidens. What happens next? Well, let's read Bongino's post here and then we'll analyze it. Thank you for following this account, allowing us to update you about what we're doing at your FBI, a few updates. The director and I will have,

the director and I have most of our incoming reform teams in place by next week, that's this week. The hiring process can take a bit of time, but we are approaching that finish line. This will help us in doubling down on our reform agenda. Shortly after swearing in, the director and I evaluated a number of cases of potential public corruption,

understandably have garnered public interest. We made the decision to either reopen or push additional resources to investigative attention to these cases. These cases are the DC pipe-mombing investigation, the cocaine discovery and the prior administration's White House and the leak of the Supreme Court Dobbs case.

All of these are of course incredibly important. I receive requested briefings on these cases weekly and we are making progress. If you have any investigative tips on these matters, you may assist us by contacting the FBI. The director and I have done only one media interview together and we decided early on to limit our media footprint overall in order to keep that attention

on the working, on the work being done. There are both positives and negatives to this approach. We have chosen to communicate in writing on this platform to fill some of the inevitable information in vacuums. I tried and read as much of your feedback as possible, but the workday is busy. And my office is a SCIF, secure facility, with limited phone access, no phone access.

In response to feedback, positive and negative, from our interview last week, we will be releasing more information, which will further clarify answers to some of the questions asked in the interview. That means information on January 6, Jeffrey Epstein. This means information on the Trump assassinations. Those are the topics that added the negative feedback or the hot water to Cash and Dan. Thank you all for your support. God bless America and those who defend her,

says Dan Pagino. So what's to be made of this? He lists the three major cover-ups from the last administration, but are the priority. Listing them in order, DC pipe bombing, the cocaine discovery, the prior administration, and the leak of the Supreme Court, Dobbs case. The cocaine we're leading with

because it's the clearest example of cut and dry government corruption. Cocaine is a tier three substance, it's flatly illegal. It was probably acquired through an open border and cartel smuggling. Most likely this cocaine can be traced back to some of the most evil and criminal organizations on earth and it was brought into the White House.

Prima facia, if you bring a substance like that into the White House, you could also bring anthrax into the White House. You could also bring some type of, something that could explode. You could bring somethingx into the White House. You could also bring some type of, something that could explode. You could bring something terrible into the White House. You could really do harm to the president of the United States. There's a massive issue.

It's not just like pointing and laughing at Ashley or Hunter Biden. There's a huge coverup going on here because the Secret Service has found DNA on that cocaine baggie. That cocaine baggie resides in Quantico at an FBI laboratory. Instead of disclosing to the American public whose it was and who should be criminally prosecuted because you're not allowed to have the substance. It's illegal. They did a blatant coverup. And more importantly, Joe Biden, who they were covering up his terminal cancer,

collapsed at the debate. And the news cycle was sort of lost on cocaine. But Dan Bongino is reopening it. It's really important because the way that you watch them squirm at the time, how scared they were that people would start asking questions. Listen to cringe Jean Pierre explain away the White House's official line here as to what happened with the cocaine. I think it wasn't for all whether or not the cocaine belonged to the Biden family.

wasn't for all, whether or not the cocaine belonged to the Biden family. So okay, I hear you, but you're asking me a question, so I'm answering it for you. And so that's why he said the Hatch Act. So I would, you know, have you read the transcript and read the transcript fully so you can see exactly what he was trying to say. So that's number one. So we're not avoiding the question. That is not true. We've answered this question

Litigated this question for the last two days exhaustively You know there has been some irresponsible reporting about the family and And so I got to call that out here And I have been very clear I was clear two days ago when talking about this over and over again, as I was being asked a question, as you know, and media outlets reported this, the Biden family was not here. They were not here. They were at Camp David.

They were not here Friday. They were not here Saturday. They were not here Sunday. They were not even here Monday. They came back on Tuesday. So to ask that question is actually incredibly irresponsible. It's good to just go back and watch like what we all lived through. It's so important to go back and see like what we were all subjected to.

Remember this creediness, D.I. H hire. The mop. She's lovingly called, Cringe Jean Pierre, a name we haven't said in months. Playing the oldies here. Had to straight up lie, and she did lie. She lied about where the cocaine was found. We have a provable lie here. First off, here's the lie.

I believe that the Secret Service did a thorough investigation. Certainly not going to opine on the investigation. Of course, of course we're going to have confidence that they're going to do their jobs and do everything that they can to get to the bottom of this. Of course, that is something that we have confidence. We will always have confidence in that. But as you've just stated, we've been briefed on the outcome and in their public statement as well as the Secret Service have said, there is hundreds of visitors that traveled through this area where the cocaine, where the cocaine was found

across that weekend. And so I'm going to leave it to them for any additional information, but certainly not going to opine on the process here, but we believe it was a thorough investigation. Hundreds of visitors, huh? Well, that's interesting. Let's go ahead to this article, shall we? An article that was buried deep because it did such a great job analyzing

what exactly happened here. This is a Daily Mail article. This is from 13 November. First photos reveal cocaine found in White House. Images of Baggy in Cubbyhole sparked White House investigation and the culprit has still not been found. So you can see the cocaine there in the White House,

but what I find particularly interesting here is the White House cocaine search map that shows the multiple locations where the White House was found. This was first reported out and then the White House did everything they possibly could to cover it up. Initial reports about the cocaine discovery said it was found in the White House library and then the West Wing lobby. Then finally in the cubbies near the West exclusive entrance. Three different locations. Now, we were just at the White House. You can see here in this map of the White House,

you're looking at the most exclusive places in the White House. The West Wing lobby is just a stone's throw from the Oval Office there. The library is private, it's closed off, you're not allowed to go there unless you're on official business. You can't just go wander through the White House library. business. You can't just go wander through the White House library. And that executive entrance, as we have described and discussed, is used for people that get waved into the White House that are on facial recognition. So the FBI has a lot of answering to do like exactly how was this cocaine? Was it the same cocaine? Does it have the same DNA in it?

Was it like, you could test and see, is it the exact same coke bag of cocaine? Was it the same user? Because then that same user wasn't a tourist as cringe Jean Pierre just lied to you there. It was clearly a member of the administration with full access to the White House that virtually nobody has. You can go work, you can technically work to the White House that virtually nobody has. You can go, you can technically work at the White House and you don't have any access to these locations.

I just witnessed it myself. There are people with White House badges who go to work every single day inside the White House that can't go wandering into the West Wing lobby anytime they want. The White House library across from the diplomatic reception room or that executive entrance, which of course has a guard at the front of it, the executive entrance. There is a massive desk there with an armed guard member of the secret service who stands there and like checks your bag, checks your credentials, make sure that, I mean, if you're walking into the White House, this is just another hard, hardened entrance. So has anybody explained, like, anybody explained why they found,

like how they were able to find cocaine in three different locations hidden in the White House? They're lying. They're lying to you. And they were able to find DNA. And then they shut it down. It's incredible.

FBI agents have come on our program and we've done hours, we've done thousands of hours on January 6th in the pipe bomber. Thousands of hours? Yeah, I mean, definitely, in total. We brought on the world's experts on this. And the FBI agents that were on our program is Gerardo Boyle.

And he said, yeah, I was on the J6 Pipe Bomber team. And we were like this close. We had someone identified. We knew exactly who they were. And then Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray and the FBI told us, cut the case. No more investigation. You're done. It's like you're this close.

You have DNA evidence. You know exactly who the bomber is. You know exactly whose cocaine it is, and then they come in and they kill it. This was the operation. It should make you enraged. Okay. To take the sting out of it. Here's President Trump, uh, musing like whose cocaine was it really? Let's go. There's never been a time where we've been closer. We're inches away and we have a man that literally can't speak. He can't get off a stage. The other day he tried to get off a stage. Now look, I'm up here now. There are a lot of people. There's a lot of television going crazy. There's so

much. I'm up here. But you know when when I'm finished, I'm going to look over there. I'm going to see an exit. I'm going to look over there. I can take that one, that one. And what I can do is walk through the back wall. And he turned around. Did you see the other day? Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You know, what happens after about 20 minutes, the stuff that he's taking wears off. So it gets really big. Gets a little groggy. Gets a little bit groggy.

They say, get him off the stage. That shit's wearing off, man. Get him off. No, no, no. And I'm sure that the cocaine that they found in the White House that nobody for I'm sure. I feel certain it had nothing to do with Hunter and Joe, by the way.

Here, Dad, have a little of this stuff. It's gonna liven you up a little bit. Can you imagine they found a stash that you wouldn't believe and nobody laid claim to it? The official line here, after 11 days of investigation, DNA evidence and Secret Service whistleblowers saying that it was a member of the Biden family's cocaine, is that the Secret Service has closed down their probe without identifying a suspect due to lack of physical evidence and supposed lack of cameras to capture who may have dropped off the baggie? That's total and complete bull.

Try my hardest not to swear loudly and angrily. There's no... When you are at the White House, you are like well aware that every second of your movements is not only being recorded, but that your face is being scanned. You have to stand there in front of multiple cameras just to get in. You have to get your face scanned. You have full biometrics, real ID, all of it. There were at least, my wife and I went to the White House.

My wife and I went to the White House. Can you grab them? Yeah, A-Locs, can you grab that photo of me and Kate and baby Whitaker? So we were there on Thursday in a room with Trump and RFK and like half the cabinet is freaking awesome. I'm gonna show you this like, this like happy little photo of us. They're sort of on the perch

of the East wing of the White House, right? This photo, to take this photo, there were five different times when my wife and I had to do a full like facial scan, biometric scan, five different hardened points of security where our names were checked against a list. Then our IDs were run through a system. This is of course before we had to give our full, you know, full biometrics where we live, date, birthday, social security number to the white house just ahead of time. This is where the drug, the drug sniffing dog had to sniff my newborn. Thankfully he didn't have any, you know, powdered milk.

And of course you have to go through multiple metal detectors, magnolimers. You have to like roll through that. To get to this point in the White House was like a mousetrap maze of security. As I'm recalling it, five different hardened points of security, most of them including full scan biometrics. And the official story out of

the White House is that a visitor was able to use a secure and locked cubby. Then a visitor was able to go within one room of the West wing residence of Joe Biden. Then a visitor was able to go just down the hall from the Oval Office that no visitors are ever allowed to go into. And then a visitor was able to hang out in the library and do blow in the library. That's their official line without ever being on camera. Okay now. Okay. Now that is a massive cover up. It's going to be, this is why Joe Biden pardoned his entire family. This among many other reasons is why Biden pardoned his whole family. That's it. This would be, I mean, the pardons include the cocaine use in the White House.

But it's still worth dragging these people out and proverbially crucifying them. It would be so good to like get an understanding of who knew what. And maybe there are prosecutions. James Comer on our program. Talked about where this evidence was at the time. And where it is now. I don't believe half the stuff that is told to us by the feds.

And I, you know, James, Jamie Comer, head of government oversight can only tell us what he's been told. Jamie Comer saying it's gonna be really hard to do this investigation because the FBI, much like power washing the roof after Matthew Thomas Crooks staged a near on air execution of the president. The FBI has destroyed all of the

evidence. Interesting. Is evidence really ever truly destroyed by the FBI? It's a good question here. Here's Jamie Comer. Okay. So taking a step back and looking at some of the other scandals, what's going to happen with this cocaine in the White House? I know you've been on, you've been on that beat as well. Apparently there's DNA. Um, are we going to find, are we going to, are we going to get a chance to actually look at some of the things that have been covered up over the past four years? Because it seems like the cover-up operations have been sweeping in the DOJ. You can forget about the cocaine in the White House because they destroyed the cocaine. It was in a little plastic dime bag or whatever you call it.

So you know, I mean, the potential for fingerprints were really good. Then you had all these cameras in the White House. Well, somehow it never showed up on any of the cameras, just like it was swept off the cameras or deleted or whatever. There's no camera angle that covered where that cocaine was sitting when it was found. And the plastic bag that contained the cocaine, they destroyed within 24 hours of finding it, the FBI. They said they couldn't, they didn't have any technology that could tell any fingerprints, which meant somebody must have walked in in the summer

wearing gloves in the White House. Did that come up on the video? No, nobody with gloves on, no fingerprints, and we just destroyed the evidence. They've got evidence from a hundred years ago in safes and filing cabinets in law enforcement agencies affiliated with the FBI, but this one, now, you know, we had to destroy it. They destroyed it in 24 hours. So yeah, that's going to be a successful cover-up. So who's lying? James Comer or Dan Bongino? Who's lying here? lying here. If Dan Bongino is teasing this out and I, Dan Bongino, you know full disclosure as we said many times, Dan Bongino is like a mentor to me. He's been really sound as somebody to assist

in building what we're creating here. He's somebody who has, he's an honorable man is what he is. Why would Dan Bongino tease this if there was nothing there? If it was all over? Why would he tell this to the American people if it was just gonna be a massive failure? I don't buy it. But I'll tell you my take on all this because I know it's gonna get me in trouble and you know here's here's like they destroyed the footage, we've actually seen them do this as J6 pipe bomber. You can see that they actually slowed down the J6 pipe bomber security footage. You can see that they tampered with the evidence. They tampered with the actual footage of the pipe bomber. So this is definitely on brand. What's my take as this plays beside my take is this.

What's my take as this plays beside? My take is this. I'm willing to believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. I'll have to see the evidence. I think it's far more likely that somebody killed him. Maybe Jeffrey Epstein paid someone to kill him, but you don't snap your own neck falling from a bunk bed with tissue paper around your neck from four feet.

It just doesn't happen. So there's something else there. I'm willing to entertain that there was no greater conspiracy with the Trump assassinations. That's the contention of Cash and Dan. But what's going gonna have to happen is that we are going to have to apply pressure and get those files released. And that will be a good thing.

Right now, Cash and Dan have access to stuff that we don't, obviously by design, but that shouldn't be forever. Let it out. We've all seen wartime footage. We've all seen footage from, you know, Ukraine front lines October 7th. There's gory and horrific footage all over the internet constantly. We're adults. We can take it.

Release it. Let's see it all. The ugliness, the scars, all of it. I don't believe that we're being lied to and I don't believe they're setting themselves up. They're not stupid. They're not setting themselves up for failure to be dragged and humiliated. They're, they're digging in. There's more here. Since we've done so many hours on the pipe bomber and since we've haven't talked about the cocaine of the White House, we decided to lead with that. The Dobbs decision also should be cut and dry.

There are not that many people who work at the Supreme Court. There are like a handful of people who work in the Supreme Court. The individuals who leaked that to the reporter, it's very simple. You subpoena those emails, you subpoena those records. It's going to be very obvious to see who leaked that document. And the purpose of that would be what? To get a Supreme Court justice killed. So it was deadly serious. That was in summer 22. Is that correct? Yes. They also couldn't figure that one out. Couldn't crack the case. So all of this is very important. Why would Dan Bongino tease all of this if he had nothing?

If they had nothing, they wouldn't do it. It's bad politics. So we have a lot of faith in this and that faith needs to get some rock solid footing underneath it. And the way that you do that, the way that you restore it all is to release it. And so that's going to be our charge on this program. We're not going to call people liars. We're not going to lose our minds. We're going to freak out because it's not happening on our timeline. We want it to be done right and correctly,

but we're going to demand all of the evidence. And I trust the American public. The American public can see it for themselves. I don't trust FBI analysts. I don't trust CIA analysts. I trust the American people. And I trust the autists of the internet to go through everything, find fakeries,

find the truth, give us the evidence. Same thing with the cocaine. So that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen. One final thing on this note, well, one final thing on this. I checked in with the FBI this weekend. Yeah, good sources. You obviously know Cash Patel from being on our program.

I found an old photo of Cash Patel in my kitchen, actually, like two fourth of July's ago, with his children's book, and he was hand delivering a children's book to my two year old at the time. Wild photo, we'll pop it up on the show tomorrow. But the point is, is that we are locked in with the people who are really doing these investigations.

And they tell us, get ready. Like really, really big things are happening and really big things are coming. And we believe them, they've never lied to us. So that's where we're gonna stick. Okay? All right. Ladies and gentlemen, I encourage you,

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above the drug administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or condition. All right, ladies and gentlemen, somebody who comes on the show and is like a very warm blanket to me is the single most trusted pulsar in all of America. His name's Mark Mitchell with Rasmussen Reports

and he has a historic trend line to talk with us about breaking right now. Mark Mitchell joins the program. Mark, top of the morning to you. I drink coffee. I don't do cocaine. I don't know what, you know, gets you going in the morning. That's what we've been talking about on the show here.

Polls, okay. Good numbers. That's what gets me going. Maybe that's why they didn't have any good polls in the Biden era. Maybe that's why they had to resort to something stronger. But Mark, you have news for us this morning. The floor is yours.

I said this a couple of weeks ago. I said, I never thought we would see it. We've been polling since 2006. Every day, we've been asking presidential job approval and we've been asking right direction and wrong track. Donald Trump's doing pretty well from a presidential approval perspective considering the Biden administration, but the right direction number has been the sleeper hit.

It's been setting records left and right. Only now in Trump 2.0 was the very first time we ever had more people who say the country was on the right direction than on the right track, and there is this stunner from this morning. And this is not some like single nightly overnight number. This is five nights. This is about 2000 U.S. likely voters. So it is a very big and very accurate poll. And for the first time in our polling history, a majority of the electorate

says the country's headed in the right direction. Absolutely stunning. Net plus five. Never seen anything like that. I'm sorry, I have to stop you there. Mark, this is the first time ever in Rasmussen's polling? Going back, yeah, going back to 2006. The highest we had ever seen before Trump 2.0 was I believe 47%, tied 47% right direction,

wrong track, net plus zero. But in the Trump administration, we broke net plus zero. We had net plus one. We had net plus four last week, and here it is at net plus zero. But in the Trump administration, we broke net plus zero. We had net plus one. We had net plus four last week and here it is at net plus five. And we've never had a 50 handle ever period going all the way back through the beginning of the Obama administration, going all the way back through Trump one. Trump one had some high numbers. He set a lot of records back then to, you know, six or seven consecutive weeks, about 42. We're at like 17 now. So, I mean, this is just something, well, listen, I'm a public opinion aficionado. I'm a pollster. I want voters to get more of what they voted for.

And this looks like the report card for that. It looks like they're getting what they voted for. So the way to interpret these numbers is that you never see numbers this high over the last 20 years, let's say of presidents, like since the year 2000, we've never seen anything above 50%. We've never seen anything near that. We personally don't have numbers going all the way back through the beginning of Bush. I'm sure there were probably some periods prior to 9-11 where the number was pretty high. I think everybody was pretty jazzed at the end of Clinton 2.0 because of the surplus and because the economy was doing really well. But really in the modern political era, you just don't see high numbers at all. Now, a lot of that's a great financial crisis. A lot of that is the

concentration of wealth at the top and all of the tyranny that we've seen over the last years, it's been increasingly worse and worse. And I mean, this tracks with every other thing. But the reason it's so important, it's because we ask it a lot, everybody asks it, and it's impossible to ignore these numbers. And listen, some of the other people in the industry are certainly sandbagging their numbers. But if you go look at the real clear politics number, the industry aggregate of right direction, wrong track, not presidential approval, they're actually only about one point away from the high that they had back at the beginning of the Biden administration, which I

didn't see, right. But they're almost going back to the best that they've ever seen since the beginning of Obama as well. So even the industry says that things are going really, really well, but you should probably take it from the only pollster that can actually poll Trump supporters. And yeah, this is unprecedented. So the way to interpret this is, and I think we have like the full, I think this is the aggregate here on real Clear Polling.

It's wild. Even the aggregate here is showing this massive spike for Trump in the right direction. And you're saying that your polling shows them tipping, tipping that scale. Yeah, my black line crosses the red line. And you'll see in the industry that never happened either in all of their data. This goes all the way back to what looks like 2008 or before.

And so Donald Trump has done it. He's flipped the country into saying this we're on the right direction. So does this mean just Trump voters are saying we're on the right direction? Or is Trump Trump voters are saying we're on the right direction, or is Trump bringing people across the line to say, hey, maybe I didn't vote for Trump, but I'm actually really like his job that he's doing? Yeah, I mean, everybody, right? Like I have the breakdowns here. There's always gonna be some Republicans

who say the country's going in the wrong direction, and it's because they're financially not very well off, or because their family's fallen, whatever personal reasons they have. But right track for GOP 75%. That's really high. The really good one is for independents is 45%. Independence usually are in the low 20s or 30s for most of Biden's administration. We even have 31% of Democrats say the country's headed on the right track. And it's kind of weird situation where you look at some of these other pollsters, again, your Ipsos, your Reuters, all the people we've talked about on your show, and you're seeing with them still like 90% Democrats support among Democrats.

But listen, Trump is the guy that got like all of these union people to come out and support him. He got all of these blue voters in the in the Rust Belt. And so I think my numbers reflect what reality really is. And it's just been wild how high his approval rating is and how high these numbers are. And even 30 to 39 year olds have been off the chart, super conservative. And black approval has been really high. And it's down a lot lower than it's been. And it's still 34% black approval for Trump 39% right track. That's crazy for again a racial block of voters that have voted 94% Democrat in the past. Men are off the charts loving what they're seeing 58% approved and 41% disapproved. 57% of men say, country's on the right track. It's only 44% of women.

So the gender divide has been growing. But yeah, wild stuff. So Trump is doing excellent with men. And if you compare this to the Joe Biden numbers, and I know that you've posted this about a week ago, the Joe Biden job approval numbers were just just collide just in a state of collapse throughout the entire presidency. Is that correct? Reading of the state? I mean, this is what horrifying, horrifying presidential approval looks like. And again, what we're looking at isn't Rasmussen numbers here, it's the industry numbers. And look, he

was underwater essentially 15 points on average, according to the industry, this his entire time. The industry says Trump's underwater may be a point, and they freaked out like back in the end of April and beginning of May when the entire industry, and again, we talked about it. There was an information opt to try and tank Trump's numbers for the hundred day mark,

but they got down to seven and a half in the real clear politics, but they got down to seven and a half in the Real Clear Politics presidential approval aggregate and look at Biden just cruising on through at like negative fifteen. She blew out to negative twenty a couple of times. I mean, just horrifying. And so they weren't running wall to wall stories about Biden's approval rating. We all know. I mean, we all know what it is, but it's stunning when you see it like

this displayed on a chart. They ran this guy, they ran this guy. So they tried to run this guy. Tried to run this guy with terminal cancer, which is like a human rights violation in my personal opinion. It's like, you know, first off, how depressing and pathetic is the party

that that's the best that they have? And then two, somebody should be fully criminally investigated for this. It's like clear cut case of elder abuse. Here's what Mark posted before President Trump made this historic feat of flipping the approval ratings. Like, here we go. Here's how close that it's gone. Now that was Biden right here. That massive slump was Biden. The right wrong direction is red, right direction is black.

So this is the Biden years right here, these slumps. So Donald Trump is now cranking that thing at a much faster and much higher intensity than he did in his first term because he got very close in his first term. Is that what you're saying here? Yeah, even in the industry numbers here that include all of the bad ones, the Trump first administration stands out like sore thumb. You could see it there. It's that narrow area just before COVID hit and things went up and down right before that second yellow circle.

That second yellow circle is the fake euphoria that probably ABC, Washington Post, and New York Times and others baked into their polls because they finally got the orange man out. I didn't really see a spike like that when Biden came in, but immediately even in their numbers, look at the utter collapse. He barely made it to his first fall and people were chanting FJB in the stadiums. And I think that that was a very, that there is I think where the country really changed.

I mean, he did convince a lot of political normies who are watching MSNBC in their masks to come out and vote for the very first time. We know about the 2020 election irregularities and all the mail-in ballots and all that stuff, but a lot of people did vote for Joe Biden. A lot of people bought into that the adults in the room would come back and cure us all from the chaos of Trump, the artificial chaos we know. And they were completely let down in a horrifying way. They had Afghanistan, right? They had the Department of Justice weaponized like within the first year, they had the inflation reduction act blowing prices through the roof. So they trusted in government to solve this problem for them and the government failed and you can see it right there on the chart.

And that's why Trump's in office again. And now the country's like, oh, okay, cool. It's working. So this is the first time out. I mean, where are we going from here? And Donald Trump has already suffered some wither. I mean, pretty much everything that they could possibly throw at him, the kitchen sink.

I mean, I don't wanna like, I don't wanna hope too much here, but it does seem like he's, you know, there's a barrage of bad press and it just isn't working anymore, Mark. So where's Trump headed? We're gonna see 60% like right track. This is like, he did well on his freshman midterms, okay?

And we still got a lot more of this administration to go and the report card is good. But the problem is, is that the exams get harder. Right. And so I think part of the reason we're seeing the numbers this high is that we got to summer without anything blowing up and people tried to be they try to convince people that things were blowing up. They didn't. And what happens in summer usually is the numbers just kind of drift and everybody chills out.

And I don't know, they'll probably swing all over the place. I think there will be some highs. I think they're going to try and hit Trump with everything they got coming out of August. They're probably going to try. They did this in 2022. They did it with the Dobbs decision. And this is what they did in August of 17. Also, the Russian collusion stuff was really sort of festering all summer and then it was just wall-to-wall press coverage and it really did draw some blood for Trump. Got his approval rating down into the high 30s but he caught it back out into the high 40s. I don't think they have anything like that though. That's the problem. They've pretty much used everything they have

available and so I guess they only have, I mean, you know, the deep state is infinite in this creativity. So I guess we will see. But I also think the message is that things are good right now, but they have a chance to turn south. We just pulled our first generic ballot of the cycle was only 1000 likely voters. It's super far out, but the Democrats were up one and that's new. We've had Republicans up in every single time all the way going back to 22. And so this should be perceived to be a wake up call to people who understand what voting for Congress means. Listen, Congress performed in the generic ballot pretty similarly to Trump in the fall. And if Trump's up six in approval right now and the Democrats are up one in the

generic ballot, that's a message that Republicans are slipping. And so Donald Trump turns out low propensity voters to vote for him. He turns out Democrats and independents who cross over. And we saw those special elections and we see what's happening in Congress and the Senate right now. And so, I mean, I can imagine they're trying to figure out, well, how do we do good in 2026? The answer is don't do what you're doing now. Donald Trump is a very non-traditional 2.0, Trump.2.0. This is a very unprecedented presidency. We are not seeing an unprecedented Congress right now. So Congress could eff it up.

Well, I think a lot of things could, right? I mean, you know, World War Three, economic black swan, or literally Congress not giving Trump the agenda that he got a mandate for. And voters said that too. I mean, we asked Donald Trump, I'll pull this up. We asked voters, I want to get the words exactly right. Is Congress delivering on the mandate that the country was given? 60% of Republicans disagree with that. 60% of Republicans. with that. 60% of Republicans. Now, it wasn't strong disagreement, but that's not where you would want your numbers because every single component of Trump's platform is overwhelmingly popular. So like

what are they doing? They're it's all just the same, you know, trading pork over bargaining. It's that's what they're doing, I think we No doge cuts. Everybody's taking their chance to slow this thing down to get their own special. This should have been everything Trump's doing. They should be, in my opinion, this is it. I think a lot of people thought this was an existential election. And then if the Democrats get them back in power, the question I have is, is the 60 vote filibuster rule on the table?

And if the answer is yes, like why is it not on the table now? Right. So Republicans never have the will to power. They never have the capacity to unite the way the Democrats do and to push. This is why even the far outliers, right? Like Joe Manchin, like are such extreme cases

because they're a Democrat who like dares to buck the party like 2% of the time. Whereas Republicans, it's like 50% of the time and you're seeing constant squabbling. So you're saying Republicans, if they wanna keep power in the Senate and the House, then you get on board, get their asses in gear and start delivering on Trump's agenda, codifying Trump's agenda. 100%. And I think that again, a lot of these big topics like you talked about leading into

my segment, or what a lot of people are paying attention to the Epstein stuff, the cocaine cases, like wondering when this information that was promised is coming and when we're going to see action. And we've been pulling on that as well. But the problem is, is that Congress is just this sort of sleeper in the back. And it's going to, people are going to eventually add up what's going on and draw conclusions. And it will be when it's too late. But we asked people about releasing information about the Epstein case. This is an important one too I wanted to bring up because you're talking about it. And the communication there is awful. I understand that there's realities that happen in the FBI, but with

an extra sentence or two of context, right? It could have been delivered a lot different to the American people. It would have changed the discussion on Twitter a lot, but the Trump administration promised to publish previously secret records about the activities of convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his associates, but have made little progress in doing so. How important is it to get these files out? 36% say very important, important 31% say somewhat important. So that's two-thirds. Like that's pretty good. Even Democrats like it. But then as a sister question, we said the Trump administration promised to release evidence of widespread coordinated 2020 election fraud, but have made little progress. How important is it to get this evidence into the public domain? 47% very important, 24% somewhat, so that's 71%. So overwhelmingly, people want election integrity.

So let's not forget this aspect of institutional trust that was destroyed under Biden, the fact that people thought that this election was going to be stolen, and we haven't really heard anything about that stuff, right? And so we have very simple bills that we could pass. We could put paper ballots in. We could pass the same. We could do this stuff and it's not getting done. And the answer from the Senate is going to be, oh, well, it's a 60 vote. We can't get it through. OK, we'll make them filibuster for the

entire summer a bill about election integrity. Let's do that. Let's put that on the table. Why not? Maybe a couple of them will drop dead and then you'll get more of them, which I like, I'm just saying. And it's not, it's not something that they're going to consider. And you know, that's what the Democrats do.

They're very good at the obstruction game and the Republicans, they get in the position. So just total and complete. what the Democrats do. They're very good at the obstruction game. The Republicans, they get in this position. So, just total and complete darkness. So, okay, like, listen, if you were gonna ride a horse through 2026, final question here, like where would you rather be right now? And I wanna preface this by saying,

I was howling at the New York Times report on Democrats trying to win young men. Democrats are wanting to spend billions of dollars to try and win over young men again, a demographic that they have lost spectacularly. What's your take on that, Mark? Is it possible to bring young men back into the Democrat party based on your numbers?

Or is this just another massive slush fund of wasted cash, just like Kamala Harris's $3 billion presidential campaign, 100 day presidential campaign. Yeah, I think that's grifters trying to just make money off of the horrible situation Democrats are in. And let's not forget, I mean, among men, 57% say write track, 58% say approve of Trump. Good luck, you're not to win people away from that.

Men like what they're seeing. Mike Cernovich put out a really, really good tweet about how the ambush that Trump did to the leader of South Africa reflected a masculine energy shift in this nation. And it's going to, those kinds of things, very heavily signal the type of leadership that is expected and the cultural norms. I think that's

important. Listen, here's the thing about the Democrats. I would rather be in the Republican shoes, obviously, but the problem is, it's like they have a very good opportunity now. They've built trust and they're squandering it. The Democrats, listen, those Democrat voters didn't disappear. Some of them aren't answering polls. Some of them are less political than they were in the COVID era. Some of them are reconsidering themselves. Some of them probably checked

into mental health facilities. I don't know, but they're still there and they're still gonna vote. And the problem is Republicans do have a low propensity voter problem. It's not very inspiring to vote for an established Republican figure. And that's what often gets run is these squishy moderates in purple states.

So that's a problem for them that they're going to have to figure out how to overcome. Now on the flip side, 2028 is shaping up to be a clown show for the Democrat. This is just slow motion train wreck. I don't know. I mean, it looks like it's going to be AOC and then they're going to have to pull some game to get her out. That's what it looks like where it's going. Where they're going to run Kamala Harris again. So you have an AOC Kamala Harris ticket and then this is the ticket that they're going to win back men with. They're going to say, yeah, please vote AOC Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris AOC. Well, Bernie will stump for him. Don't forget that. You can have an octogenarian on the stump for him.

You're gonna be nearly 90 years old. Bernie's 85. I mean, you're only 90 years old. Wild. Okay. Yeah. What a, what a complete and total clown show. Uh, all right. Well, that's history. Mark, you've been predicting it. You were the only man who predicted that Trump would win the popular vote. You were laughed out of the room. You did on this show many times and damn it, man, you were right. You've been saying Trump would pass this milestone and you were right.

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Thanks, Benny Thanks, Benny. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be joined in just a moment by America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani, who's going to have some interesting things to expand upon when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and his death, murder, suicide. What was it exactly? Well, it sort of all hinges on the strange circumstances of the case, that of course the cameras went off in his cell, that he wasn't on the right block of a prison where he was supposed to be,

that he was in a cell with a convicted strangler who was also a bodybuilder, very interesting, and then he tried to allegedly kill himself by using the substance about as thin as tissue paper because he was on suicide watch already and dropping himself from a four-foot tall bunk so severely that he broke his neck. It doesn't make any sense. Now the prison itself that Jeffrey Epstein was held in was built by Rudy Giuliani.

Nobody knows that prison better. There's a single journalist, before we get to Rudy, who's actually done a little bit of investigative work on how the prison was arranged and how this murder suicide could have happened. It's remarkable that nobody really schematics this thing out. Nobody really did the investigation except for Tucker. Tucker went in and actually game theory what would have to happen for Jeffrey Epstein to be killed in his cell and There's a I think plausible theory here. We wanted to play you this very quick clip

With the preface that it is cash and damn Bongino saying no no no Jeffrey Epstein definitely killed himself without adding any further Context to which sort of reignited this entire conversation. Here's Tucker's reporting. No one came in or out of the tier, Barr said. Therefore, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. So let's consider that claim rationally. On the night of August 9th, Jeffrey Epstein was being held in the special housing unit of the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, the most secure part of the city's

federal lockup. It would be physically impossible for a stranger to get in and out of this facility without an electronic pass and without being seen by the countless cameras in place between the street and the locked ninth floor of the building. So if Jeffrey Epstein was murdered, he was not murdered by an intruder, someone who came into the tear. He was murdered by someone on his own cell block, obviously.

There were seven other cells on Epstein's tier, and each one housed dangerous criminals. So if you were looking for a killer, you would figure out who was in those cells. But no one seems to have thought of that or done it. The Bureau of Prisons refused to provide us with a list of the inmates on Epstein's tier. It's not clear how many of them were even interviewed by investigators despite the fact that some of them were transferred out of the facility shortly after Epstein's death. That's a baffling oversight. The best reporting we've seen so far, it's years old now, from Tucker's old Fox show. And the next words we get on this, years later are from Cash

and Dan Bongino. And they said very curtly and very bluntly, no, no, no, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. Cash and Dan said this. Do we not have the clip? Cash and Dan said this. Do we not have the clip? Cash and Dan said this and it caused a massive firestorm across the internet because well, it's just a lack of evidence. Seems to be the evidence points in the opposite direction. Here's the clip. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it.

Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was. He killed himself. Again, you want me to I've I've seen the whole file. He killed himself So this started quite a conversation online and led to us saying as we've said before That we know cash and Dan to be men of

upstanding moral quality They are good and decent men. How could they say with such certitude that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself given all the demonstrable evidence here? Going back through the schematics of the prison and so on, it led us to ask quite a few more questions and now we're honored to bring on the man who actually built the prison who knows it better than anyone Rudy Giuliani to answer hopefully some of these lingering questions joining us live now America's mayor Rudy Giuliani Rudy welcome back to the program. It's great to be back, Benny. I was just telling your people, you and your family, the pictures are great.

I love the pictures of your family. I love it. Well, thank you, Mr. Mayor. I wish we had more of a family-friendly topic to talk about. Happy to do that on any other show. You made a lot of news by saying to Steve Bannon the other day, yo, listen, I don't believe any of this. I built that prison. I have major lingering questions.

Now it's the contention of a bungee known cash that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. They haven't presented any new evidence to that effect. But given the fact that, you know, this prison better than any human being alive, the floor is yours. What's your take on it? It's a I have the same respect for both those men that you do. They're both personal friends and

and they have more evidence than I have. So in that so I'm going to say this with that caveat, okay? But I'll just tell you what's available to me, my own analysis of it. I just find it hard to believe. I find the set of circumstances, if you would ask me, let's put them aside for a moment, their opinion. If you would ask me just on the evidence that I have,

nobody's actually put out all the evidence. And what I know of that prison, it's highly unlikely that somebody could commit suicide. It's a small prison to start with. The one's being used now is the Brooklyn Detention Center. That's probably three times the size. So therefore, it's an easier prison to guard people. And if you have a super important prisoner like that, and as far as I can tell,

he was the only one in that category in there at the time. I know what happens when you put a prisoner like that, because I put plenty in there, including occasionally terrorists. One of the reasons we were hit. I always believed on September 11th, we had this terrorist major al-qaeda trial going on. And there was a real focus on New York by al-qaeda. And we had to take care of those terrorists in that place occasionally. And we'd have to do special arrangements for them. But if you wanted to watch him, you could

have watched him 24 hours a day. It makes no sense that the cameras were out. The guard station would alert you to that. Well, think about it. You've been in facilities like that, I'm sure. There's a guy sitting there and he's got a bunch of television cameras in front of him, right? Those television cameras show him all the key places in the facility. If the camera is out for two hours, I mean, the guy's got to be taking a long winter nap to miss it. And not to have substitute guards there for a guy that just came off suicide watch a day ago. Of course, why did you take him off suicide watch? The circumstances hadn't changed. So I mean, what do I, to be fair, what I have are questions that all lead to, what you would call circumstantial evidence that it was not a suicide. It's also a fairly low prison.

I don't know exactly which cell he was in, but some of the cells there are, I assume he was in one that was fairly tall. But if he was in one of the shorter prisons, the actual act of hanging yourself would be really hard. You'd have to have some help. In general, hanging yourself is not that easy. It's small confined space. So I could come up with maybe three or four others. I think it argues for, you gotta put it all out. Maybe there are things you and I don't know that make it definitive that it was a suicide.

I don't know what those would be. So how can I just back off my opinion because two people I respect tell me that at the same time? I'd be less than honest if I if I said those answers those questions weren't answered. No one's explained to me why the cameras weren't working. No one's explained to me why that wasn't a word. There was wasn't an alert of some kind in the in the guard room.

Maybe the camera didn't function that way anymore. I don't know. I can't imagine that you wouldn't have a camera where the security guy is, particularly for a key prisoner. How could you have him unguarded for a long period of time? Why did you switch him? There could be answers to all that, including like if they just tell us to sell

it within and the height of it, that would help. Let's say it's 12 feet high, 14 feet high. Well, okay. But let's assume it's only 10 feet high. That's pretty hard to do that. That's where I am on it. And the whole situation with him seems like for about 12 years, 15 years, this guy had some kind of special situation going on, right?

Even that original case in the Bush administration. That was in the Bush administration, remember, when they basically gave him a deal that let him off for what appeared to be serial pedophilia. That's a pretty serious crime except in California. And so there, the questions are there. That's all I can tell you. Yeah. So at that time, Alex Acosta, who was the federal prosecutor there

in the Southern District of Florida said that he was told to back off because Epstein belonged to Intel. That's what he said before the Senate committee, it's on camera. And he had to then back off and then he got a plea agreement and walked. And you know-

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I don't know. Right. And that of course begs the question, Mr. Mayor, like who would have the ability to go into federal lockup and kill someone who has that power, who has the power to turn off the cameras. So if your contention is the cameras were off, this is very shady. No one was going in and out yet the cameras get turned off.

Jeffrey Epstein is sharing a cell with a serial strangler. He's also a bodybuilder. He also had to break multiple bones in his neck in this very successful suicide. And you know, you'd have to beg the question the kwee bono right? in his neck in this very successful suicide. You know, you'd have to beg the question, the qui bono, right? Like who has the power to turn off cameras in a federal prison facility? The superintendent.

I mean, the guy running the facility at the time, even the superintendent in charge, like the duty officer, I would imagine it has the right to put them on, turn them off, and also alert people to have to be fixed. And how long does it take to fix a camera? I mean, they must have had an extra, there had to be a place in that facility that had a camera you could move there that was less important than that. That was the single most important prisoner they had, who, as I emphasize again, was on suicide watch. So those are the things that make you wonder.

And then the apparent, I have to believe, knowing the people involved, including the delay in putting out the things on Epstein, there's some very serious issues involved. These are, as he said, honest people. They have no if this is wrong, this is a mistake. It's not a deliberate thing. But with regard to not putting the information out,

there has to be a very serious. National security. Issue that's going to have to be explained, or maybe this is in the right period of time to do it, given what's going to have to be explained, or maybe this is in the right period of time to do it, given what's going on in Ukraine, given what's going on in the Middle East. This can't be some kind of a personal thing. This is a government thing.

Just think of all the secrets we have, right? We keep it locked up for, the Kennedy secrets were locked up forever and who knows if we even have gotten the right information, if it wasn't changed already. So I think it just raises the question more and there are a couple of answers that have to be given that unless I'm missing something,

I think you could give without giving away whatever the terrible thing is that they're trying to deal with. It does beg the question. You've been a prosecutor. You've obviously prosecuted some of the highest profile cases in the history of federal prosecution, bringing down the mob in New York, a lot of legendary cases. It's important to get the information out to the public, right? Like that stops people from asking or going down the wrong path, right? It's actually incumbent for the government

and we can take it, we're all adults. We've all seen tough photographs from wars and the Ukrainian front lines or October 7th or whatever. Like, why not just be out with it with all of the information and evidence? Put it all to rest. It baffles me, why not? Because it does create a lack of confidence.

When you have open questions like this, and this isn't the only one, there are others right about the government, when you have open questions like this, that's the reason you end up with those percentages, you know, so few people trust the government. This all takes its toll. And then when you need to summon that confidence, maybe it's not there. So yeah, these are important questions. This isn't some kind of frivolous case. This is a case that's very, very important.

This guy clearly had friends at the highest levels of government, not just our government, at the highest levels. So this is not voyeurism. This is national security. So one final question about Epstein and the cross-section with New York, because he was living inside of a $53 million mansion on the Upper West Side. And this was a mansion that had the famous Bill Clinton painting in a blue dress sitting in the Oval Office. Did you know anything about that place? I don't, you know, it's a really strange thing. I didn't, I didn't. Can we have any evidence from there? We have photos, Mr. Mayor, of the FBI. The FBI released some photos that they probably regret doing

that have boxes of it. He had boxes of hard drives that were wrapped in yellow evidence tape. And the FBI testified that they didn't put the tape there. And we have boxes of them, CDs, CDs with like that say nudes on them. The CDs say nudes, Mr. Mayor. I don't know why I'm laughing. It isn't funny, but it is weird. What the hell is this stuff? I'm very glad to say I never saw the place. All the time I was US attorney and all the time I was mayor

and all the time I was in New York City, I really, I'm not sure. I don't think I ever met him. I have no recollection of meeting him or knowing about him. I think I heard the name a few times as a big democratic, when you'd read about major democratic fundraisers, when he got in trouble, I remember the name. Oh my God, there's another democratic fundraiser. That's a pervert. Maybe I have a little bit of a biased view of it, but you tend to look at those things. But yeah, that should yield a tremendous amount of evidence.

What about the island? I mean, gosh almighty, the island you could purge to hold on place. I can't imagine this guy had operated for the period of time he did it. He left no evidence behind. Or now this again, this is a supposition and it could be wrong, but he seemed to be the kind of guy that would be framing people doing what the mafia used to do. When they ran all the gay bars, people wondered why would the mafia run gay bars on the west side of Manhattan, because judges would go in there and politicians

would go in there and important business people would go in there. Snap, they take a picture. Unlike you remember in the Godfather when the senator got in trouble. They can walk in and they can fix things for you. Okay, we'll go see the judge. His wife's not gonna like to see this picture. I'm sure this guy did that. I'm sure he had plenty of evidence on the people that could help protect him. So maybe I'm wrong. But if that's a logical assumption, right?

And the way you investigate, Vinay, is you take logical assumptions, and that's your circumstantial evidence, and then you go answer them. I always followed the rule, you start a murder investigation with the person with the biggest motive. The person with the biggest motive logically committed probably 70% of the murders. So I always wondered why Lyndon Johnson wasn't the major focus of a John F. Kennedy investigation. I can't think of anyone, including the mafia was going to go on whether or not Kennedy was president or not. The Soviets, they had a motive to kill every American president. They didn't do it. Cuba maybe, but probably they'd have to have the help of the mafia. I don't know that Cuba could have penetrated. But then you got the most, the guy with the most obvious, the most obvious motive,

he wasn't going to be president. They were thinking of dropping him in favor of Governor Connolly, who was in the car with him. There's rumors of that. Teddy, I mean, Robert Kennedy despised him. Robert Kennedy knew he was a massive crook, that he couldn't even believe that his brother took him on the ticket. The guy used to give out cash on the floor of the Senate. And Robert always appeared to me to be the more judgmental of the two in the right way. John Kennedy seemed to be one of the smooth politician. And Robert Kennedy reminded me is,

the kind of prosecutors used to work with me. He might've had different political ideas, but from a prosecutor's journal point of view, he was terrific. And Johnson hated him, he hated Johnson. I mean, it was like blood feud. And I can't imagine, of course, I never got to talk to him

about it, that being the investigator he was, that wasn't always on his mind. That there's the guy, this guy never be sitting in that White House if my brother were alive. He either would have won or lost the presidency and Johnson would have been gone and they may have dropped him. They may have, you know, they were thinking

about it seriously. And Connolly was at that time, I believe, more popular in Texas than he was. They were thinking about it seriously. And Connolly was at that time, I believe, more popular in Texas than he was. So these are things that I think when you leave these questions, here's how it isn't just curiosity. People then begin to develop a certain percentage of people that don't trust the government. And they might not even think that until you go question them on these polls and say, do you trust the government? And they think, gee, they never really answered Kennedy.

They're not answering this. And I don't mean this administration. I mean, every administration hasn't answered Kennedy. They've done more than anyone. I just think the evidence may be gone on Kennedy. If they were powerful enough to fix the Warren Commission, they're powerful enough to grab the key documents that can answer these things and get rid of them. I can't imagine they let them sit around on that file for half a century. Do you believe that there is preponderance

of Epstein evidence that still exists? Do you think that we'll ever see anything Mr. Mayor? I think it's I think it still exists on Epstein and I think they're struggling I think we are gonna see it and I think they're struggling with it. I really do believe that. Why are they struggling? I think it probably involves something that could have big implications on our national security, foreign policy, allies. It has to be something very, very sensitive. You know, Kennedy, I think, is gone. I think we're never going to be just going to be one of those things where we're going to be discussing it 100 years from now. If we still

have history as a course, well, sorry, not in the Ivy League schools. They don't do history any longer. That's been, that's a subject that isn't taught. So, and this is the final question on the subject, but given what you know about that, the prison that Jeffrey Epstein was held in, how would you kill someone in that? How would I do it? How would you do it? How is it possible? I would, I think the easiest way to do it is to, is to make, make sure you get it, make

sure you're going to use something that doesn't show up in the blood, end up sedating him and then hanging him. Accomplish the hanging yourself. Now that could be done with the help of one or two people. You could hang them easily. You can hang them any place with the help of one or two people. But there's even dispute by the outside medical examiner

as to whether he was actually hung. I mean, there's a, now I don't know the answer to that either. Maybe there's a definitive answer to that, but that question has been raised by an outside report. So just, there are more questions than there are answers, and it shouldn't be that way. There should be more answers than questions. And with the two of them saying that, I assume there are answers and it shouldn't be that way. There should be more answers than questions. And with the two of them saying that, I assume there are answers, but we're just not getting them.

Yeah, and your advice as a legendary prosecutor yourself. My advice is to put that out. Put out the answers that lead them to the conclusion. The way I just laid out the questions, give us the answers you have to that. I don't think that's gonna lead to, let's assume some very important critical person or he was involved in some very critical mission

to the United States. The fact that we raised a question, the issue that he was murdered is not gonna reveal that. It's gonna create more of an impetus to find out about it, but it isn't necessarily gonna give away that information right away. So I would, I would love to see one of the two of them sit down and tell us how they came to that conclusion. And I think that would help. Yes. Help settle one thing and then possibly say the rest of it, you know, rest of it, you have to just leave it

to our judgment to release at the right time. Well, you can't have a functional country with so few people trusting the government. You actually want to have a functional country. You want to be able to trust federal law enforcement to do the right thing. And it can't happen if the vast majority of the American people believe that they're protecting

the world's foremost petrists. It can't happen. Yeah, it makes it harder. I think that this is the strange thing. This is why it's so frustrating. He's done a lot of things, meaning the president, cash, Mancino and the whole team. They've done a lot of things to restore confidence in the government. I mean, they've taken on things that I didn't think they'd be able to take on this quickly. I mean, they've gone after the deep state about as strongly as you could go after them in the period of time they had available to them. So this is sort of an outlier. It's not helpful.

And it's going to have to be answered at some point. I mean, we're not in the 1960s and 1970s, when they let the Kennedy thing slide. This is this is this in this is just too important. Right. So I wish it was answered sooner rather than later. I love that you brought up Kennedy. I love that you brought up Clinton, because it's, you know, it just shows it's a very people's history of coverups in recent history. I mean, if you can kill a president on camera, then, you know.

It's almost a default position. Yeah, that's right. We're talking the last, I don't know, we could be going back to, you can go back to the second world war maybe, equal number of Republican and Democrat administrations. So we're not talking about necessarily a part. If we're talking about crooked city governments,

we're talking Democrat. Yes. Oh, well, this is a perfect segue to Latisha James. It's about 150 years of that. It's a perfect. If we're talking about fooling around, I mean, messing around, doing things dishonest at the national level,

we have our history of that too. So, and remember, Kennedy had to be covered up by both Republicans and Democrats. Nixon was in office for six of those years. He would have had every motive to put it out. And probably he's one of the people, given the fact he was president and also very tied into the government and the agencies.

He's one of the people who probably knew the answer. Well, he's on the tapes saying he knows who killed John. Yeah. We have the White House, we have the tapes. And then Richard Nixon had Watergate launched against him. Four of the five people that broke into the Watergate were CIA agents. It's like.

It sounds like January 6th. Yes. Small version of January 6th, practice. So the hoaxes against President Trump are many. One of them was run out of New York. Letitia James is now in hot water herself. And you say that you're very proud of the speed at which the Trump administration is moving.

Letitia James is obviously quite a big target. We call her big tish on this program. And it seems like she's in hot water quite bigly. What's your take on this, Mr. Mayor? Would you possibly- What my take on is that they've created, they've created for some people an equivalency between what she did and what the administration is doing.

What she did is in both, she and Bragg, both cases, it created a crime that doesn't exist and produced false evidence to support it. I just remind you of the evaluation of Mar-a-Lago at $18 million every time I live in Palm Beach. And I look at 40, 50, 60, $80 million for bedroom homes. This thing is worth, you know, you pick the price. It's one of these priceless places. If I said half a billion, you jump at it. If I said a billion, I might be closer to it. The guy actually lied. I mean,

he took create a value. I've never heard of a fraud case where nobody lost money. The definition of fraud is, you know, putting people at disadvantage, hurting them. She's charged with saying that you live in, what was it, Virginia or Maryland, when you're the attorney general in New York? That's a pretty big lie on a loan application. Maybe there's no explanation for that. Saying that a building is smaller than it actually is, actually you cheat people out of the amount of money they're going to loan or their security and collateral. They actually get cheated. And there's plenty more.

These are things that anybody be prosecuted for. And I remember she was the one that constantly said nobody is above the law. Well, if we do if we were to ignore the fact that she put her put herself in a marriage with her father in order to save money, cheat people out of money. How? I mean, who could justify that? The only problem is, does it get tried in New York? And our New York juries just as bad the other way. I mean, they'll convict anything that smells Trump. If she puts up, Trump is coming after me, are they going to have a hard time?

Now, it is a federal case, right? I think it's a federal case. And you tend to get a better jury in a federal case, because you're talking about a much bigger pool of people for a federal case. So we might get a fair trial there. But this has to be tried. I mean, it's ridiculous to fight the US Attorney's office. It's public. She's the attorney general. She lied about her residence and her marital status in order to cheat people out of money. Pretty cut and dry. You're you would predict prison time. Oh if she got convicted? Yeah. Absolutely. Sure. I mean she not maybe not if she were just a regular person.

This is where having public office probably disadvantages you. But the fact that she had public office and she's really lying to the people in the state that she's a resident about her residency and she's putting people in jail aggressively and here she is involved in fraud. Yeah, it sounds like a prison,

at least some form of prison to deter other public officials from doing the same thing. I think if she was just a regular citizen messing around with a loan application and it was a first defense, I'm not sure I'd put her in jail. So interesting times, good things to come. I think it's the most interesting times in the,

I mean, I'm 80 years old, soon to be 81, and it's the most interesting, and I've been through, you know, my recollection goes back, it begins with the Korean War. I mean, I was born as the first World War, second World War ended, but I was interested, my family was very interested in politics. So from the time I was a child, my mother and father were discussing communism and the

danger of communism. And one was a Republican, the other was a Democrat. But my father was a Democrat who now would be a bigger Republican than my mother. He was an anti-communist Democrat, aggressively anti-communist. And he switched somewhere along the way. I don't remember, but now he would be sitting there saying, how could I have belonged to that party? I don't know what's wrong with them. There's something seriously wrong at the highest level of that party, because they do too many things that are irrational, like wanting dangerous criminals back among us, people who commit

crimes like rape and murder and abuse of children, and they want to bring them back. I mean, they can't seem to pick their issues against Trump. I mean, Trump could really, really destroy them by kind of making up issues and then just suckering them into being against it. I go back to the wall. For years, they were all in favor of the wall. On record, there's video of Schumer and Pelosi, wall, wall, wall. For years they were all in favor of the wall. On record, there's video of Schumer and Pelosi, wall, wall, wall. Trump says wall and now he's a racist xenophobe. They even know the pictures are going to show up. They have so little regard for the public. They figure they can alibi their way out of anything. I think it all comes down to owning the press, Vinnie.

interesting. I think it all comes down to owning the press, Benny. I think you feel like when people evaluate Republican political advisors, say it's not fair. It's not fair. It's like having a basketball coach. And every time your team goes on the on the court, they only get one point for a basket and the other team gets two. Now you want to evaluate the two basketball coaches against each other. I'm running a campaign for a Republican. That's a major effort I'm fighting off the New York Times and NBC and abc you're running it for a democrat and you can print anything you want so

That's got to change too. I think we're doing a good job with that when I say we I mean you and me and dan Bongino and everybody who does this and You take a look at 2020 and 2024, the difference could be we had more of an independent media in 2024. There are people who tell me who've done an analysis that if we had the same percentage of independent media in 2024, it wouldn't have mattered that that much that they were able to censor the post and the hard drive that it would have gotten out. That's right.

Through the alternative through the alternative media within four or five days. So we have some things that are very positive, too. It's true. I'm a I'm a glass half full kind of guy by nature and silver linings. And we've always appreciated that optimism about you, Mr. Mayor. Well, thank you. I appreciate you a lot. I think you're one of the key figures in this group that sometime I hate to mention it because I'm going to miss somebody.

So I put out a list of this is the media now. It's this group of 50 people, you know, they're going to get they're going to tell you the truth. The rest. I listen to them in order to know what to contradict. Mr. Mayor, I don't know why. For some reason, the creepy painting of Bill Clinton is up on the screen. Oh, my God.

I hadn't looked at it in a long time. Well, would you would you ever hang that in your Palm Beach house, Mr. Mayor? I don't think so. Or nor would I stay in a house that had one of those things in it for too long. I'd be scared. Is what is the final question? What is this saying to Bill Clinton? Many have speculated this has,

this is Jeffrey Epstein saying, I, you know, I own you, right? I have the goods on me. Here's another thing. I think he says he never was on the plane. And then there are supposed to be all kinds of records he was on at 27 times. Well, are there or aren't there?

I mean, those records, I can't imagine, were destroyed in the amount of time. We should be able to figure out who was on the plane. And when he was on the plane, the Secret Service was with him. There should be government records of that. Correct. Release them.

Establish trust once again in federal law enforcement and release these records. Is there some kind of national security? He's presumed innocent. But let's say he is guilty. Where's the national security issue there? He's I mean, we find out that Clinton was on that plane 27 times. It's a very damaging fact.

But that isn't a fact that we should be classifying He's never had to answer any question And to your point of a media cover-up Bill Clinton has never had to get he's never been asked a question about this on the record by any reporter sat for thousands of their interviews and Never had to answer questions and the government Not that I know of right. yeah, that's exactly right. He has to be on your list, doesn't he? He should be on a list of people who are brought in

for questioning, yeah. If we were doing a Sherlock Holmes investigation of this, he'd be on the list, right? Right. Or if those old movies, they'd all be in the room. Of who would benefit? The eight people, Charlie Chan, the Charlie Chan movie, they'd all be in the room, Agatha Christie, they'd all be in the room. Who would benefit to eight, the eight people, Charlie Chan, the Charlie Chan movie, they'd all be in the room, Baggitha Christie, they'd all be in the room. Then they-

Who would benefit to Epstein's death? Definitely. Who would benefit the most from this guy? Right. Yeah, well. Interesting. Big questions. And it's our obligation to continue to create friction

and to make sure that there's pressure from the outside to release these diets. It'd be good for the country. Be good for the country to have them released. Everybody needs to go over and assist in this process. You can do that by following Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor on X. He has nearly 2 million followers on X.

He needs absolutely no introduction or help from us, but. Now it does really really on it 7, 8, every night. The only the only that's right please tune in for a show right there on X and the only guest that we've ever had on the program also starred in Seinfeld. And so we think. Thank you thank you very much, Penny. You do a great job and God bless you and God bless your family.

Go fight that nonfat yogurt. We'll never forget. You know, I have a coffee that I sell. I should sell a nonfat yogurt. We're big Seinfeld fans. All the producers are massive Seinfeld fans. Had to say, had to, it's just just a classic Mr. Mayor, thank you. Godspeed. Godspeed. Very interesting times indeed. Sometimes it's nice to just sort of sit back

and let men, especially older men who have a lot of wisdom, talk and explain things. You learn a lot actually, by just sitting back and listening. I'm trying, on a personal note, I'm trying to like tighten up my questions here, to like just get my questions out so that it like leads the wise and intelligent people on our program to tell us everything that they know.

And if you're the man who built the prison, Rudy Giuliani, well, you'd know more than virtually anyone about how you'd kill someone there. So ladies and gentlemen, the great Rudy Giuliani. Now would you buy a painting of Bill Clinton in a dress sitting there in a chair in the Oval Office. And you know what that blue dress was, right? Yikes. I doubt you would buy that.

We would never put that up for sale, but we did try and create something that I guess you could hang in your house. Unlike Jeffrey Epstein, Christmas ornaments in your house are hung. and Christmas ornament that we made this last year, we were able to move 50,000 of them. Couldn't believe it. The only way we were able to accomplish this was Shopify.

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them out and out the door as possible. Point wasn't really to make money. It was to like decorate everyone's trees with this glorious Christmas ornament. Ladies and gentlemen, again, the only way that we had the structure to deliver on that The only way that we had the structure to deliver on that was Shopify. Shopify is the most powerful and largest e-commerce platform in all of America. It's behind millions of businesses around the world, 10% of all e-commerce in the United States actually, from household name brands to people who are just getting started as Christmas ornament salesmen. They can help you design a website. They can help you code. They can help you market and they can help you when you get stuck with 24 seven customer support. Shopify ladies and gentlemen turn your business dreams into reality.

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