The Benny Show - 🚨The FBI File on Trump’s Assassin Just Leaked…Everything They Told You is A Lie | Trump RESPONSE

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

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Talking to ghosts, cross out crooks, all so known. That's a banger, man. We're going to release an album. We're going to drop an album. Probably do better than Jelly Roll's new album. We're going to drop an album. Should we get some face tattoos and replace Jelly Roll? Should we try and strike out as the opening act for Ed Sharon?

Ed Sheridan. Ed Shearin? Ed Shearin. Everyone's getting canceled. Today, maybe we'll get canceled. Today, we have Ben Shapiro on the show. We have Senator Dave McCormick on the show to talk about some of the massive revelations from Butler, Pennsylvania, and from Utah Valley, where our president was shot in the head and where our future president was shot in the neck. And both of them were preventable, systemic security failures.

Both of them enraged me and will piss me off for the rest of my life. And we have massive breaking news out of both. fronts today. And so we are back into assassination mode here. And I want to begin by just a prayer for the Kirk family and saying that we are sorry for everything that everyone has had to go through. Nobody should have to watch their father get shot in the head like the kids have been on the program. Don Jr. Eric, Laura, they've all talked about what it was like watching their dad get shot in the head. Dude, you just don't know if he's alive. You kind of see him because I get choked to the back of the car. But like people die of these kind of things.

things hours afterwards. What is actually out there killing us? What is the thing that is doing this to our nation? And it is a battle between good and evil. And that's what we're going to talk about today. It's a battle between good and evil, and we mustn't let evil into our nation. We can't let evil into our land. It's corrosive in the extreme to allow our society to break down like this.

our once predominantly in majority Christian society has been atomized. It has been atomized through a process of demoralization, dehumanization, communization, globalization. And we can't continue like this. It's too easy to control people and fraction them off. It's too easy to break people away. It's too easy to create cultural enclaves that have no connection at all to what you would call or believe to be an American.

that is no resemblance to America at all. And no, Texas isn't Texas if half of Texas is from Mecca and Damascus and the other half is from New Delhi. No, that's not Texas. Right? It's not, and it's okay to say that. It's actually scripturally, foundationally true. We know this to be true. We're just practicing our religion that God created the nations, that God created specific peoples,

that God made cultures and defined them and defined them, and that it is an important thing to protect your culture. And it's an honorable thing to protect your culture. You don't do it out of hate, you do it out of love. It's an act of love to want to not hear the call to prayer five times a day. It's an act of love to want to not see your friends or your president shot in the head by trunes or communists or kids with their brains broken. and completely brain-rotted leftists. And that's exactly what happened.

And so big problems. Big problems can be fixed with spiritual warfare, and we're going to engage this morning by talking through these massive new stories, ladies and gentlemen, and starting off with staying healthy ourselves, doing our best. We traveled last night. We went to the University of Florida.

It was really fun. I'm not sure if we have any pictures from their team yet, but we were there with the... of Office of Personnel Management. A guy named Scott Cooper, who was just on the show. And it's an awesome dude. And we were there to, like, recruit young kids to go work at NASA, go work at the National Park Service, go work at the next doge.

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You know he's... We've never seen who he was talking to. here. This is seconds before he took the shot on Trump. What is this photo? I'm like obsessed with this photo. We found out a ton of new information about Thomas Matthew Crook's assassination attempt and who's helping him. And I think that you frankly are a conspiracy theorist if you think that he executed this alone. I think that's frankly the conspiracy theory. At this point, you have to assume that there was certainly something else going on. How unfair he said it really is? I'm not sure. Does the level of incompetence rise to malevolence?

Well, at some level is indistinguishable. Gross incompetence is malevolence at scale. And so people wanted Trump to die that day. They didn't need Matthew Thomas Crooks to make it happen. They just needed to have enough security failures all add up like a domino stacking together. And eventually it collapses. The weak base, the stacks of lies, compound and overwhelm the entire system falls and collapses through.

Just a couple of security failures off the top of the dome. These, by the way, are security failures. The Kirk family just sued the University of Utah, the state of Utah, and the police in Utah. These are security failures that they are suing over. They're the same. There was no overwatch. There was no one on the roofs. One single agent on the roof of the AGR Glass Factory or the Losey Center in Utah,

respectively. AGR Glass Factory was in Butler. One single agent is enough to stop the shooter. One Overwatch drone is enough to pull the principal. At least with an Overwatch drone, you can say, well, wait a second, there's a guy on the roof. It looks like he has a rifle. It looks like he has something. He has a black bag. Get Charlie the hell out of there. Get Trump the hell out of there. Get him out. And you can see that like when that happens, you just saw that so the White House correspondent center. When that happens, these agents, they jump on Trump, and it's not up to Trump.

He gets physically dragged, and he doesn't, nobody asks him permission. Out of the room. He'd get him out of there. There's a guy with a gun on the roof. Why didn't anybody ever do that? There was no drones flying at all. And what's, what, look,

really blends the whole malevolence element to all of this, is that tons of people actually the shooter on the roof. There's a video that I recently recovered, uncovered, and it's a video of, let's see, where is it here? There it is. I'm loading it right now. Makes me, it may be so angry. Right here.

You know, there's so much content from that day. There's so many little angles. And obviously, of course, the most famous angle is President Trump with his fight, fight, fight, blood streaming down his face. Crimson blood trickling down as President Trump gives the order and command. But this shaky video, I would argue, is probably the most important video from the entire day. So let's go back. We can literally, we can see Thomas Crooks with a gun skulking on the roof, stalking Trump. You can see it filmed here. You can see it playing his day. But was there any response? Yes, of course there was.

as you can see what was going on at the exact same time on the rooftop, that there were at least five or six officers that were surrounding the building. They knew there was a shooter up there. You know that this is something that's going on before he shoots, because you can hear Trump on stage giving his feet. Oh, my God, there's somebody in this building. So the police officers know that there is a game. gunmen in the building. This is why they're surrounding this building. Now, let's, like, ignore the other

massive security failures here, which are that you can, in this lot, you could just stand right there at a gate with no security checks at all. Tons of people could just stand right there. Look at this. Look at these groups of people. There's a dude on a horse. None of these people are security checked or screened. None of them. You can walk right up to the fence line and look straight at Trump. A trained group of assassins, 15 ISIS members, 50 ISIS members, 1,500 ISIS members could have just stood on that fence line and had fully automatic weapons inside of a cooler or a bag, and they could have opened fire and they could have killed hundreds of people, thousands of people that day. It's the most insecure event that perhaps I've ever seen. And the officers knew

something was going on, yet nobody called in order to get Trump off the stage. All the officers are sitting there saying there's a guy with gun climbing on the top of the building, but nobody's making the call? There's no Overwatch? There's no drones? There's no polling of Trump. The same systemic failures and both events. And it's enraging.

Trump should never have been hit with it. We should never have had to, like, depend on divine intervention and the hand of God to protect Donald Trump, but the protection operation is still going on for this op. because we don't know what was on the phone. This photo, and this is like the Zuprooter film of the entire event, this photo was taken from a sniper rifle. Do you know this? This photo of Thomas Crooks, greasy, Thomas Crooks,

lumbering, lunking, certainly unsophisticated in his operation. This photo was taken by a sniper that was up in the rooftop, a sniper that should have been able to see Thomas Crooks very easily from his position on the AGR Glass Factory. What happened to that sniper? he was called out. That sniper was called out from his sniper's nest, and then the door was locked,

and he was not allowed back in. Do you know this story? This is the thing that, like, makes my hair stand up and sends a chill down my spine. That there was a sniper position that was ready to take out anybody that crawled across the roof there

at the AGR Glass Factory. This would have been the easiest shot in human history. It would have probably been like 20 yards. Any child could make this shot. You could make this shot by playing duck hunt or buck hunt in your local dive bar. And yet these snipers that are up there that were positioned up there, they were called out and then locked out of their sniper position.

That seems extremely irresponsible. And then, of course, you see the snipers behind Trump, secret service snipers behind Trump. They see Thomas Matthew Crooks. They don't take the shot. They wait for Thomas Matthew Crooks to fire. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Eight shots. At Trump, eight shots, kills Corey Comptor, shoots two other people in the stands,

hits the president in the head with a bullet. Who is he talking to? Don't we have a right to know who he was talking to? You have a right to know as much as possible about the man that nearly ended Western civilization? Like ended Western civilization, right? As we know it. Well, we're finally learning a couple of very interesting and extremely disturbing things. One, Matthew Thomas Crooks had a very secret person pay for his cremation.

Who paid for the cremation of Matthew Thomas Crooks? Anonymous donor paid to cremate Matthew Thomas Crooks. But oh boy, it gets worse than that. Way worse than that. Tom's Crooks, who with regularity was visiting Washington, D.C., no idea why we have never heard anything about that. How is this lunging, lumbering, unsophisticated? young man

constantly traveling up into the Washington, D.C., greater DMV area within, like, the same city block as the FBI. What is the organization that tracked his cell phone devices? ALX, please grab that.

It's the oversight project at the Heritage Foundation, is what it's called. So nobody's ever explained why he was traveling in Washington, D.C. Nobody's ever explained now, when we just learned this yesterday, why multiple men were seen with him

mysterious men were seen with him inside of a gun store, buying ammunition and training. Training. Ten weird things about the newest FBI drop on Thomas Matthew Croix. The FBI had the ladder that he used to get up on the building, but it was somehow 40 miles away. Well, how the ladder get 40 miles away? Was somebody working with him to stash the evidence?

Who was the accomplice here? How would a ladder that he used to climb on the AGR building get 40 miles away? Agents were searching for a dumpster to find a third cell phone. How many phones did he have? What did he have on those phones, by the way? He had a bunch of encrypted Belgian accounts. Did he ever get emails from Belgium?

That's like something you do, right? You have like a ton of encrypted accounts in Belgium. It's normal. Every teen has it. Every teen has a bunch of encrypted accounts in Belgium and then absolutely zero social media here in America, right? What's on that encrypted email accounts? Who was he speaking with before he shot Trump in the head? Like, don't we have a right to know this?

At a gun store in Edinburgh, two hours before, the correction, two hours from his home. Somebody looked just like Crooks was browsing for hours with two other men a month before Butler. The file gives us no further details. The suspect's ammo purchases matched one of Crooks' rifles. Oh, no. The day before the shooting, he spent two hours at the gun range talking with an identified man. Agents ran the plates, no follow-up included in the file. Crook's apparent bag had weirdly.

stuff in it. It had a 12-foot tape measure, a red Sharpie, hypertuff stapler, and box of light duty staples. Okay. You know, remember, he also had explosives in his car and a remote detonator. He was planning on doing something else. What happened in Butler was not the full plan. So what is the full plan? We've been talking with people, and the FBI is just lying, right? like the Thomas Matthew Crooks, ALX, just like choose the Tucker clip that's going to be the right one here. I want to like just,

I want to define something very important. Like the FBI went out and said that Thomas Matthew Crooks had no social media, but he did have social media. And this is probably one of the largest glaring lies. And just pop it up on screen, please. Thomas Matthew Crooks had social media and was constantly making threats

against President Trump and his supporters. Why would they hide this? They deleted and scrubbed this account and then went before the American public and stood before the American public and said, no, no, no, there was no motive. He never had social media. He never had any type of political record

of what he was writing or what he was saying. But he did, in fact, leave lots of comments, lots of angry and very aggressive comments. that were in the extreme calling for violence against Trump and his supporters. And this has been uncovered, and, like, the question remains, like, why would you lie about something like this? Why not just come full out with it? Something just isn't right here, man. And the more that we learn seems like the less that we know.

And I kind of just, well, frankly agree with the president on this one. when he says right here, everybody knows that crooked Joe Biden and the FBI didn't do what they should have done in respect to the lunatic who shot me in Butler. By the time I got into office, most of the information was missing, altered, or corrupted, or gone. A new info was just found. Why wasn't it seen long ago? Was it all a Democratic plot to get me out of the election that failed? Dirty cop Christopher Ray should pay a price for the way that he handled this assassination attempt and certainly for the things that he said. She's an important reminder that the Secret Service said that it was sloped roofs,

sloped roofs that kept them from defending Trump that day. Ladies and gentlemen. I don't like it. And I don't feel like we're getting the full truth here. And we have Senator McCormick from the great state of Pennsylvania. We'll be joining us in just one second. And it very much frustrates me. Mike Lee, the same great senator.

Mike Lee more than two years after the assassination attempt. President Trump and Butler, Pennsylvania, the American people still know very little about Thomas Crooks. The almost successful assassin. I think you could argue that he's maybe the most successful assassin in American history, given in modern American history, given the fact that everything changed. It's just that he missed.

And I think arguably that the acceleration from Butler is what caused RFK, Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk to join up with Team Trump, gets the Joe Rogan endorsement. Actually, like the consequences of the assassination attempt were profound for President Trump. He obviously intended to murder President Trump to kill him live on stage that day. Who else was helping him? We don't know. Again, reports directly from the FBI of mystery men that were with him at the gun range, that were with him in the gun store.

He did train at a gun range that was regularly used by DHS. this is openly admitted to. And I think if you were talking about like a truly definable, not even a conspiracy, a proper like theory of how this could happen, well, the Secret Service admitted that they criminally defunded President Trump's Secret Service. The action that they took that day, and it gives you chills to sort of report on it, reflect the exact same security failures that Charlie Kirk's family is suing for this morning. And so here is the lawsuit.

Now, retards on the Internet are going to be very much. very angry today because why would you sue over the security failures if you have something to hide if it was an Egyptian flying a French Legion in their jet to drop a bunch of Mossad agents in to kill Charlie why would why would you be suing over that if you're trying to like cover it all up with your exploding microphone trap doors holograms why would you open yourself up to discovery criminal discovery on this every text message every detail of that day will now be laid bare as it has been in the preliminary trials, but it's being laid bare here because the family,

Kirk family, is now suing. The state of Utah, the police there on campus that day, and the university itself for criminal negligence and wrongful death. This document serves as a notice of claim against the state of Utah, Utah Valley, University, Utah Valley Police Department, Jeffrey Long and various other actors known and unknown, pursuant the Utah Code. And the nature of the claims is,

failures that led to the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the nature of the claim is therefore based on the wrongful death, the survivor's claims resulting in the wrongful acts of negligence and the parties that led to Charlie Kirk's death. Brian Harpole has been on the Sean Ryan show talking about and exposing these text messages. Perhaps you've seen them. But it states very clearly that the rooftops were to be covered by the cops, that Charlie's private security couldn't get. Great. Hey, guys, just let me know when the, just let me know when, okay, great. McCormick set. Thank you guys. I appreciate it. Fantastic.

Let's just wrap this up quickly because they're the same story and it's maddening and enraging that they're the exact same story. But there was a lack of security coverage on a rooftop, lack of drone coverage on a rooftop, lack of overwatch on a rooftop, a single officer would have prevented a gunman. The Secret Service did not communicate with the local police. The local police in Utah did not communicate with Charlie's security team. they had no plan. Reportedly, the Secret Service had absolutely no plan. There was no comms. And so people actually did see Tyler Robinson on the roof.

There is little videos of Tyler Robinson here and there. People did see them skulking around campus. There was no communication vectors to report all that. And ultimately, there were gunshots from a rooftop that was totally unwashed, totally unmanned when one of our future presidents and one of our past presidents and future presidents stood in the middle of field with her hand up giving a speech

for hours on end in an extremely vulnerable position and it's not too much to ask to send more than six police officers so I'm fully in support of this lawsuit that the Kirk family dropped this morning Charlie Kirk's family

sorry for the scroll there Charlie Kirk's family alleges UBU knew the rooftop security risk before the assassination legal filing they had six officers for 3,000 spectators Final thing, I can't wait to talk to Senator McCormick about this.

Incompetence is indistinguishable from malevolence. At a large enough scale, they are the same thing. You wish, by your incompetent decisions, you visited these horrors on President Trump and on Charlie Kirk. And the security teams are truly a culprit. here that needs to be sued and needs to be stripped down to the root and stem ripped the bark off of. I'm not satisfied with what's happened at the Secret Service, to be perfectly honest with you. Let's talk to the senator from Pennsylvania about the Butler assassination two years out.

Like, where are we here? Is he satisfied with the new FBI documents and what comes next? Senator, McCormick from Pennsylvania joins us live now. Senator, we are rip roaring this morning. learning some of this new information about Butler. He wasn't angry that we don't know virtually anything about Tom Patrick Crook. What was your reaction to this new information from the FBI? Well, Benny, yeah, I just heard the last five minutes or so of the show. And I essentially agree with everything you're saying.

And by that, I mean, I was there with President Trump at Butler. I was called up on the stage. And then he said, no, no, I'm going to talk about the board. sit back down and a minute later the shots were fired and uh you're you're right in what you said but but but but not quite in the sense he was hit and had he moved his head by two inches the other way uh he would have been he would have been dead and if you're sitting where i was sitting which was in the front row and you look to where the shots were coming from it was not clear at the time where the shots were coming from it was hard it was confusing because you had the sharpshooters

going back and shooting him. But, you know, Pennsylvania is a deer hunting country. Nine times out of ten, any person in that position on the roof would have made that shot. That was an easy shot. And so when you step back and say, how is it possible that that assassin could have been on that rooftop, seen as you referenced by multiple people on video, no communication between the police and the Secret Service. So it is at a minimum, a shocking level of incompetence and gross negligence. And how it could have occurred, I think is still not clear to me. And so I agree with you that it's deeply unsatisfying.

I haven't reviewed all the FBI documents from today. but it sounds like Robinson was a cuck and lots of evidence that he was headed in the wrong direction but the security on that day was beyond beyond incompetent

and it's impossible to imagine how someone could have gotten that close to the president with a high-powered rifle I have a little clip I'd like to play for you and it's when Trump's talking about you right here here the president says he says something going on in this building that was you right oh my god yep he's talking about you he said i'm fighting like hell to get this senator elected

he motions to you probably in the front row no and he says come up so betty i walk up i get on the stage and i'm having trouble getting through the security and he goes wait wait let me talk about the border he pulls the chart up and the charts on the opposite side it's usually on And he turns his head and I hear the shot. And I see the whole thing go down. Now, in a typical President Trump fashion, when he retells the story now, he saved my life. Because if I, if, you know, let me come up on the stage, I might have been, I might have been part of that, part of the shooting as well. So the thing that alarms me about that footage is that there are a bunch of cops that have already surrounded the AGR Glass factory.

they've already seen the shooter. Yeah. I mean, clearly wouldn't this be a nine alarm fire where you pull the president the moment that there's a guy on a rooftop? Like that, so that footage shows that President Trump is in the middle of his speech. He's referencing you. He's, like, the cops have already noticed that there's a man with gun on the roof. Where the hell are the red flashing sirens that say get the president off the stage?

Right. So at least there's at least three problems. One problem is the last. of communication among all law enforcement. The second problem is woefully inadequate security staffing, just in terms of the numbers. Third problem is an access break where how did this guy get even anywhere close? And then the fourth problem is when there's evidence of a problem, there's a very lackadaisical response. And I've read some of the reports that came out of the some time ago, the congressional review. I still think those questions, it's like, it's a, it's a

like you have a total breakdown in a business, you fire everybody that was associated with that thing because the incompetence that led to it. It's not just like a little process break. It's like one failure on top of another failure. And when you're talking about the president of the United States or someone like Charlie Kirk, who has, you know, a well-known vulnerability is under siege. You have to have multiple levels of security and protection. And in both cases, there was a horrible failure. There's the parallels between the two cases are are shocking. I mean, in the case of Trump, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, is,

the former president of the United States, the soon-to-be president of the United States. This is, this is a person who, uh, is, is under threat every single day. And, uh, the fact that the, the, the security would have been as unresponsive as it was, is, is beyond, uh, imagination. Would you like to, uh, I'm not sure where the investigation stands inside of the Senate. President Trump's up on truth social saying that there was information that's missing, altered or corrupted and gone. Should there be a more thorough investigation here? I think you should be.

We all saw Kim Cheedell. I like, for the rest of my life, I will never forget being at the RNC convention and seeing Kim Cheatel of all people, like wobbling around. They're proud of herself. Yeah. Hours after Butler, when she goes on national TV and says she couldn't protect the president because of sloped roofs, senator. Right. The roofs are sloped. Right.

Like lying to us. But, you know, I think, I think, Benny, there's two reasons. It's important to make sure we fully get to the bottom of it. One, obviously, you have to make sure that this risk isn't continued. But an organization that fails that miserably, you have to convince yourself that it's not going to happen again. And you have to understand how it could have happened to get to that. Second, you have a lot of people like me and you who aren't fully satisfied. And when you don't feel like you've got all the information, it leads to a lot of speculative. of what's going on. And so as a matter of public trust, I think we've got to have a more

fulsome explanation of what happened. And as a matter of protecting our commander in chief, we've got to have a much, a much better understanding of what happened. Okay. Well, I'd love to get a much better understanding of how you were able to convince John Fetterman to appear at the RNC convention. Way to go. How exactly did you do that? And that was quite the headline and well done. Yeah. Well, you know, and I, it's a genuine friendship. You know, we disagree in a lot of things, Benny, but he, he wakes up every morning and saying, what can I do for Pennsylvania? And we found a lot of common ground on fracking and borders and, you know, bringing manufacturing and steelmaking back to

Pennsylvania. So we look for ways to work together. And he leads a lot of the efforts. I lead a lot of the efforts. So someone had said to me, someone had suggested from the White House, boy, is there any way to get him involved? I said, I doubt it. But if he would be involved, my guess is he might be willing to introduce me. We're genuine friends. And it would, you know, it's not, I'm not trying to get him to switch his party. I want him to do what's best for him. But he's a good, honest man, and he says what he believes. So I asked him and he said, absolutely, you're my friend. I'd be happy to introduce you. And I'd be honored to do it. And he said yes, and I circled back a couple days later, so he's sure, I don't want you to, you know, I don't want you to do anything that's going to harm you.

He said, absolutely. So I said, okay, we'll send a video. Do you want a script? Do you want anything? He goes, no, no, no. I know what I want to say. And he said, and I want to do it on my roof where I've got the steel mill in the back behind me and Braddock because that's one of the things you and I work together on. And so they filmed the video. Somebody sent me. And I said, that's John Fed. That's the authentic. That's the authentic. John Federman and boy, I'm honored to have his support and his endorsement. And, you know, it's this simple, it's really as simple as that. Do you think that he'd ever switch parties or go independent? You know, I don't know what he's going to do. He votes more than 90% of the time with the Democratic Party.

But I think he's been very public in saying that the Democratic Party we're seeing today with this radical, you know, anti-law enforcement, anti-military, anti-business, anti-Semitism. I mean, this is not the part. party that my pop pop up my pop pop was a county commissioner in indiana pennsylvania democrat the party of fDR this is not the party of fdr this is a bunch of left wing lunatics and um and he's not one of them and so it's one of the leave is where football lives from the biggest rivalries conference showdowns to every game changing moment the leave is where football lives with more than 500 shows covering NCAA football and the NFL across every major podcast platform believe brings you closer to the voices, teams, and stories you love.

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You know, I'm not sure what he's going to do, but I know Pennsylvania is lucky to have him. Do you think he would support President AOC, like, you know, in that race? I think he's been... My odds are on AOC getting it, man. You know, I think it's going to be AOC. He's going to be the nominee. What do you think? I wouldn't underestimate AOC.

I wouldn't underestimate Mom Donnie. The thing about what they're saying is that they've got their finger on something that's real, which is a lot of Americans are feeling like they're not getting the opportunity they deserve. And that's what President Trump's been trying to do. The problem with these radical socialist is the solutions they're proposing will destroy our country. And John Federman, as, you know, I don't want to speak for him, but he has made it very clear that he loves America. He's not anti-American, which they are. He's not a socialist.

He doesn't support those socialist policies. So I think he's, you know, unfortunately, the Democratic Party is going in an erection that's not in line with common sense guys like John. Final question about the Senate. And then I will let you let you off to the, because I know you might be down one senator. We've been following Mitch McConnell. And I don't want you to miss a vote, right? And so it's already a thin margin. But we've been following Mitch McConnell has been very strange, obviously,

did disappear for an entire season. We got very little information. We want nothing. But, you know, the best, right? We prefer he resign. We don't want the Senate to be used as a hospice center or nursing home or anything like that. And, you know, it's led to a lot of big conversation about, you know, age limits or

term limits in the Senate. Like, are you in favor of those? Yeah. I've introduced legislation for term limits. And I've said no matter what, by the way, that wasn't received with enthusiasm by my colleagues. Well, I bet. Like, who the hell is this new guy that thinks we should term limit? But I really, I really believe that.

And I also said that I will term limit myself, whether the legislation's passed or not. Because the last thing we need is a bunch of people hanging out around the hoop for 30 years. You know, I said I'd do a maximum two terms if I'm fortunate enough to run again and be elected again. And the reason for that is you need fresh, you need fresh blood. You need new people, new ideas, new opportunity to take the country forward. I think when somebody's sick, as John Federman was or as Mitch McConnell was, I think it's a balancing act. Because on one hand, like they're just like anybody else, we want some privacy around our lives. Like, you know, if you have a health issue, you want to be able to work with it in your own way.

On the other hand, there's the public trust. So you need to get, have transparency, the voters need to know that the person that is representing them is able to represent them. And so it's a balancing act. But my view is we probably need to air a little bit more on the side of transparency to give the voters, you know, clarity on, hey, this, you know, this person's in the fight. And we elected him and they're going to, they're in there doing the people's business. And so, but there is a, there is a privacy issue.

John Fetteman is an interesting case because he had, you know, he was having severe depression and he was, you know, in a bad place mentally. And he checked himself in, got treatment and said so and was very transparent about it and talked about it, which I thought was a very healthy and courageous thing to do. So I think we probably need to err more on side of that kind of behavior. Yeah. Total transparency about what's going on. I mean, we're collecting a taxpayer salary.

You deserve to know where your vote actually is. and where your representation is. And at least, yeah, at least he did this. And then they cured his depression and they cured his mental health issues. And he started sounding like a Republican. It was a wild thing. It was an incredible, you know, it's miraculous, actually. It's great.

He's been great. Hey, are you going to the white out this year? We saw each other last year. Are you going to be there? Oh, I would love to. You know, Fox News is actually going to be doing a tailgate series with me. So we were working on the details for that right now. come to that one USC. It's going to be great. Okay. And we got to do the Benny Johnson show there. And I'll, and I'll be your, I'll be your featured guest if you'll have me.

Excuse me a text. That's awesome. Yes. That last thing was, it was incredible. Thank you, Senator, Godspeed. Good to see you, man. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, here we go. We want, we need to, like, we need to make sure that we, we make sure that we protect that senator at all costs. I love what's going on in Pennsylvania. We're massive fans of Scott Pressler and the work that he's doing, Pennsylvania can turn into the next Florida if we work really, really hard and if we put our shoulder to the wall and actually fight back. Run, hide, fight. This is a brand new movie out from the Daily Wire.

This is a movie about a Islamic terrorist who takes over a school starring Jonathan Majors. Look at this. Run Hyde Fight infidels. On to talk about it with us is Ben Shapiro. Here we go. All right, Ben. Hey, how are you doing? Hey, how you doing, Benny? How's it going? Good morning to you.

You too. How did you get Jonathan Majors to star in a Daily Wire movie? I know there's been some ups and downs with the career, but like this is, I was blown away when I saw this casting. Yeah, I mean, we asked him is the answer, and he loved the script, and he was really enthusiastic about it. He was really eager to do it. The shoot was apparently just awesome. He's working with a bunch of young actors, many of whom are sort of unknown, and he was sort of a guide for them, a spirit guide. It didn't a great job on the film. The film's fun, it's rollicking, and it says a bunch of things that Hollywood would not only never say. It would blacklist you for saying in sort of normal circumstances. So we're hoping, and we believe this is sort of the first iteration of Daily Wire 2.0. Obviously, right now we actually have the number two show on Amazon Prime Video in Penn Dragon cycle,

Rise of the Merlin. And now this movie is coming out today, a major movie. We have major movie announcements that are coming in the next week or so, probably involving many other people whose names and faces you would know. So it's pretty awesome. We're really excited about it. to provide people with the entertainment that they want because the movie again really kicks ass. It's really great.

But it also says things. We want to say things that people need to hear. And as my old mentor, Andrew Breitbart, used to say culture being upstream from politics, we need to actually make some culture. Yes, that's right. Everyone sits and, like, bangs their fists and complains about things than nobody ever goes out and creates. And it's very easy to do that from inside of a studio.

It's very hard to, like, hit the bricks and actually make things. There's a clip. Hey, Alex, do we have it loaded up? There's a clip that's awesome. If not, we should grab it. It's Jonathan Majors. I believe he's delivering his speech from inside of his classroom at the school that gets locked down and invaded by Muslim terrorists. Do I have the plot right here? And he's explaining how Islam conquers the West and how Islam is going to be a conquering force through their conversions, through the womb, through mass immigration. and people were kind of like blown away to hear a Hollywood actor deliver those lines.

We, of course, believe in those lines. That's 100% true. And it is actually the original practices of Muhammad to do that. That is how Islam converts. And yeah, it was just like, I saw that go viral and like really pop off online. It's like, wow. And there's a lot of that. I mean, the movie, again, says a lot of the things.

It doesn't just have, you know, Jonathan, who's playing. a special operations guy who's coming and speaking to students about the nature of Islam and how it's going to invade the West. It has actual Muslim terrorists doing Muslim terrorist things. So maybe the only depiction in Hollywood history or film history of Muslim terrorists actually saying all the things that Muslim terrorists would say and doing all the things that Muslim terrorists would do, like all the things. And also, I would say that the screenplay could have also been titled Useful Adiates

written by Kyle Rankin because the basic premise of the film is a bunch of left-wing protest activists who decide to protest in favor of, you know, sort of an Islamist worldview in solidarity with that. And that is taken advantage of by the terrorists to invade the campus. And shall we say, things do not go well for the leftist protesters who were in solidarity with the radical Muslims until precisely the point the radical Muslims took over. Do you think that Jonathan Majors, like, I mean, he would never have agreed to the script if he didn't believe in this stuff. And this is kind of a wild turn. It was like, Kang the Conqueror in the Marvel universe. And And, you know, he's out delivering what would be like a monologue, right, on any based show about Islam conquering the West.

And, I mean, do you believe, do you think that he, do you think we believe this? I mean, he certainly didn't have any problem saying it. And, and, you know, the stuff that he was saying on set, you know, he is, he's very much a patriot. He is, he's very aligned with, you know, general Western values. and obviously if he had a problem playing the part, I mean, we make a lot of entertainment around here, and there are lots of actors who would have a problem saying lines, like the ones that Jonathan says in this movie.

You know, the proof is in the pudding. Jonathan's saying it. He's in the film and he's tremendous in the film. And again, you know, this is the beginning of something for The Daily Wire. This is just the start because it turns out that there's a whole group of people who actually do not agree with all of the left wing nostrums that come out in every Hollywood movie and are featured at Venice Film Festival. So I just want to, you know, I just want to say kudos to this.

Like, well, maybe I don't want to give away too much of the plot here. And I haven't actually, in full disclosure, haven't seen the movie yet. And I look forward to watching it. The first run-hide fight was fascinating. Are the terrorists, are the terrorists illegal immigrants? Are they anchor babies? So the- Are they Hassan Piker fans? I would assume they're Hassan Piker fans.

They watch Sneak, though? Yeah, I would assume that. nearly all terrorists at this point in the United States are Hassan Piker fans. But the lead terrorist here is a Syrian refugee who is given asylum. And so, you know, then he was given a job at this university. And that was cover for his terror attack, which, again, you find that out fairly early on in the film. So it's not giving too much away who he is, although there are a few surprises yet to come. But, yeah, I mean, part of the thing that Clay Saunders, Jonathan's character says is that

the freedoms of the West will be used against it by people who despise the West. And we're seeing this every single day. I mean, you can see this in Abdul El-Sayed, the Michigan Senate candidate, means the Zahmahmahani doing the same thing in New York. There are multiplicity of congressional candidates who openly support terrorism. I mean, it's not even a question. Like Adam Hamawi in New Jersey, who was literally a spokesperson for the Blind Sheikh who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993.

If Dariae leaves a Chevalier, he says she wants to wipe her hands on the American flag. Like the thing that's happening in the United States, when we first put out this trailer, the very end of the trailer said, coming soon or already here. And that's a real question. I mean, literally just yesterday, you were talking about Butler, Pennsylvania. Bueller County, there was an arrest yesterday of a guy who was trying to join ISIS and was about to carry out a massive terrorist attack. And unfortunately, that sort of stuff is not particularly rare anymore in the United States. And that's putting aside the fact that you have actual enclaves of people in the United States who truly deeply hate Western values.

Obviously, one of the things that we've been talking about a lot on the show over the course of the last few weeks and months has been the incompatibility of Islam as a political religious. with Western values. There's not a single Muslim country on planet Earth that values freedom of speech or freedom of religion or separation of church and state or balance of powers or anything like that. These are all uniquely Western inventions. And so when you allow mass migration from places like this into your society without any sort of assimilative ability, you end up with enclaves that supports terrorism, unfortunately. Yes. Absolutely. I mean, the problem is the scale of the mass migration. The problem is the places where the mass migration, comes from and the compatibility with Western civilization.

And people are the actual nation and culture where they're coming from. So, like, we use the 51st state analogy around here. Would you like to break off Somalia and make it a 51st state? If you wouldn't want to do that, then you probably don't want to bring that culture over here. You should probably think really long and hard about bringing Somalians over here. And by the way, it was Ilhan Omar that wrote, wouldn't she write a letter to a judge about getting a bunch of ISIS members, like leniency? Treatment, yes, because it was the West's fault that this person wanted to join ISIS,

because of our dispossession of people across the world, which is just basic third worldist ideology. And then you're making exactly the right point, which is it's one thing to try to look at people as individuals, which of course we all should try to do and see what they think and feel. But when you're talking about just looking en masse and saying we don't have no information about somebody

other than where they are coming from, should that person come in or not? The only information you have about them is the culture from which they spring, but you don't know any other thing about them. You'd be a fool not to notice that if you just import legitimately hundreds of thousands or millions of people from like Syria into Germany.

That that might have some rather dire effect on the cultural fabric of Germany. You have to be an idiot not to notice this. Yes. I don't think it makes it, it means it's not Germany anymore. So if all of Germany is people from Damascus, that's not Germany.

That's something totally different. That's something that is a, I'm not sure what you would call it, but it certainly isn't Germany anymore, right? It's not magic rocks. It's not magic soil. It's the people, the people are the culture.

And so if those people were to become more German, shall we say, assimilated in their orientation, which is what America historically has done. It's taken huge populations from all over the world and made them more American. That kind of broke down in the 60s and has been broken ever since. But, you know, if you refuse to take people from places and then even require them to assimilate to Western values, you say, come here, take advantage of our welfare benefits, take advantage of all of our freedoms, and maintain all of the cultures that you had back at home and exactly the way you had them back at home, it's not going to end well for you.

And that's, by the way, why you are seeing this right. wing surge all across Europe because they're recognizing this in real time. I'm so glad that we were talking about this, because I wanted to bring up this tweet about the Texas football game. And I don't really want to talk about the football game or the student section of the football game because it's very easy to pick and choose at football games, these little sections. I mean, there was a section of predominantly Indian students, right? And the internet went into an uproar about that.

And, you know, your tweet here says, it's not a big deal, don't get so upset about the ethnicity of the people cheering for a football team. I think that I speak for the vast majority of critics of this when I say this is not about a small section of the students. This is about the greater understanding of Texas itself and how Texas has been changed demonstrably and swiftly and at a breakneck pace, neck snapping pace. Over the last 30 years, it went from being 89% white and Christian to now white. Christians or white people as a absolute minority at 39% in Texas. And that type of demographic and dynamic change has created massive ethnic corridors. And it may not be entirely Muslim, although there has been a 10,000 percent increase in mosques in Texas.

If they were assimilating, that wouldn't be the case. There's also been a massive increase in Hindu temples in Texas. And people are taking a step back and saying, well, if all of Texas are people from New Delhi and for Mecca, well, then is this even Texas anymore? I would agree with that general principle. I think that my general objection was to the use of that photo as emblematic of the kinds of people, quote-unquote, we don't want here. Because again, you're looking at a photo of people who are cheering for the longhorns.

We know nothing about them except for their ethnicity. So we actually don't know what they believe. It turns out that many of them are American citizens and have been for multiple generations. That was my main objection. I'm totally open to a conversation about H-1BVs says. I'm totally open and actually on the side of Bar. mass migration as a general reality. I'm not in favor of mass migration at all. And again, we should point out that there are lots of good immigrants from India, including the parents,

presumably of the second lady of the United States. I mean, if somebody had put up a photo from the VP's house and said 83.3% of the people who live here look like the people in the photo from UT, something has gone wrong with America. We would all say, what the hell are you talking about? I mean, the vice president is married to a woman of Indian descent. His kids are of Indian descent. In other words, the thing that I was saying earlier, which is in the absence of individual data, right, we should not allow mass migration. I totally agree with that. The problem that I had with the posting of this photo is sort of emblematic is you don't have any information about those individuals. I think you could take that photo in a wide variety of places

in the United States and say, is this the way that we want to change America? If you took a picture of Little Somaliland, right, or Little Somalia over in Minnesota, if you took a picture in certain places of East Los Angeles with heavy levels of elite. immigration and Mexican flags flying everywhere. I think that's a better pictorial example, shall we say, of this is the kind of change that we don't want. When you take a small photo that when you zoom out, there are 100,000 students, the vast majority of whom are white and Hispanic in the UT Stadium, and then you say, this is the

change that is really driving such tremendously horrible consequences in America. Again, I think you're picking a bad example. This is why I didn't want to argue the student section, because I think that's a silly argument. And I think that what the real conversation was is about the mass demographic changes of Texas, which are inarguable, which is that the majority of people, the predominant culture that built Texas, a European and Christian culture that built Texas is now becoming a vanishing minority in the state that they built because of policies that have created ethnic enclaves and replacement populations of foreign cultures that are not Christian and that build separate temples

and that build separate communities and entirely isolated communities, in fact, with secret Sharia courts and so on. And everybody is saying, that's alarming and very much not Texas. And, you know, I guess I'm wondering. I don't think we actually disagree on this very much. I think that that photo happened to be a pretty stupid entry point to that conversation.

And that's not what I want to argue. You know, and I certainly don't want to engage in blood libel, of course. Like, this is nothing against Ushah Vance or, you know, or anything like that, right? This is not about like, wrote large. It wouldn't be blood libel. It would be blood guilt, but yes, yes. Yeah, hatred of one people or another, that's against my religion, actually. As a Christian,

that's against my religion. You're supposed to judge everyone individually. It's not about hatred of any people. It's about love for Americans, right? It's about love for the predominant American culture that built this country, right, which is traditionally of European descent and Christian. And if you lose that, if you create cultural enclaves to the point of reducing that population to a minority, then it ceases to become America. And I think it's also, according to Deuteronomy, I think it's also, again, that's, I mean, it's also immoral, right? So it's like Deuteronomy says, don't let, you know, the foreigner resides among you,

will rise above you, higher and higher, and you'll sink lower and lower a Deuteronomy 28. And they'll eventually be your master, right? And you'll have nothing to lend to them, and they'll have full ownership of you. And so I think there's actually a biblical case, frankly, to be. Well, I mean, there's certainly, you know, again, a biblical. case for the idea that the values of a civilization have to be preserved. That is, I think, the very nature of the Bible, obviously. And so again, we agree on that. I think that the weird controversy that has arisen about, you know, that particular photo is, again, a sort of reflection

of other controversies who had in the past where there's a sort of Motten Bailey argument that happens where somebody picks a bad example and then that draws all the fire. And that's like, well, we're not going to talk about that. We're going to talk about this other thing where you and I actually largely agree, right? No one is in favor of taking in, you know, 20 million migrants. from India. I'm not sure who would be in favor of that. I'm not sure who would be in favor of taking in 20 million migrants from pretty much anywhere else on Earth, actually. And I do think that there's a differentiation from where you're taking migrants in. I mean, I think it would be much easier to assimilate European migrants than it would be to assimilate migrants from Syria. So I'm not sure

how much disagreement there is on that particular point. The only point that I was making with regard to, again, I know we're not talking about the photo, but the photo was the thing that people were talking about because it was used as the launching off point was, if you want to to argue about mass migration, I'm not sure that there's even much of an argument. If you want to argue about H-1B visa policies, I'm not sure there's going to be that much of an argument there either. But I do have an objection to the idea that if we take a snap photo of a small portion of the UT section where people are putting up the longhorn symbol, and it turns out that half these kids voted for Donald Trump, which by the way, should point out in the 2024 election

by statistics, 18 to 39 Indian American males voted by plurality for Donald Trump over Kamala Harris. They're the only section of the Indian American population that actually did. when you do that, you end up in some pretty bad places pretty quickly. Ben, Kamala's Indian, okay? Like when it, when she's, when she's on the right Indian shows, she's Indian, okay? And when she's on Oprah, she's black. And I can't believe that that didn't work, right? Like I can't believe that didn't attract like Indians or blacks.

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on your favorite platform this club she's black uh and then when she's with who's the who's the girl in the office they did like a cooking show together i can't remember her name yeah he's on the office Yeah, but she was totally, she was India. Yeah, she's Indian on that. Okay. So you do believe that replacement population is a problem in America. I mean, of course, mass migration from any population that is culturally non-assimilative to the West is a massive problem.

Of course. I think everybody agrees with that. I mean, I challenge people to find. I wish everyone agreed with that. I mean, I think, let's put this way. Everyone who is within the sort of conservative general tent agrees with that. I do not think that there are very many people who are saying, again, that it is just easy to bring in tens of millions of people or even millions of people.

or even millions of people and assimilate them quickly from cultures that are non-assimilative to the United States. That, again, is inarguable. It's, like, impossible to do it when there's already 100,000 or a million of people from that caste system or that culture that already exists in this corridor, right? Then you make the assimilation impossible. You just created a new version, a colony of that country, right? Like, that's actually. I mean, Milton Friedman's point about immigration is exactly right, which is in the absence of a welfare state, there's a forced assimilative process that normally happens just in order to integrate into the community you're entering. So in the early 20th century, at high levels of immigration, from Ireland, from Italy, from Eastern

Europe, from China. And the vast majority of those people assimilated, specifically because there was no gigantic grab bag of cash where you could come here, not assimilate, and then just, you know, continue to live as you had previously lived. And then we changed the entire system in the 1960s. We opened our borders to people from literally everywhere and simultaneously said, free donuts. And if you do that, you're going to end up with a very different population pretty quickly. Yeah, I mean, I've seen some of the ICE deportations. The free donuts totally worked, by the way. Like they took advantage of the free donuts.

What would be the Ben Shapiro immigration policy? Why don't we clear this up for the internet here? What would be your immigration policy here in America? My immigration policy is quite simple. Shut the border the way that the Trump administration has done. Deport any, deport all criminal illegal immigrants, obviously. And then deport literally anybody who is not of net benefit to the American population. Because, again, it is our country.

And if you come here, we don't owe you anything. And so the idea that, you know, you get to stay here beyond welfare benefits, that that, that of course is untrue. The administration is trying to put that in place right now with the dependent rule, which I think is exactly by the public charge rule. And then when it comes to new immigration, I think that obviously we have an interest in brain-draining other countries. I think it's very important, actually, that we have people like Jensen Huang or Elon

Musk come to the United States and build the best businesses in the world. And it's hard to distinguish between people who are coming here to build businesses and maybe people who are not. And so you have to be careful about who you take in. I think there are significant revisions to both the E1 and H1B systems that would be totally worthwhile. But I'm not for a totally closed border because that means that you're excluding many of the people who we wish to bring in, who are sort of the best and brightest.

At the same time, I'm certainly not for mass migration, which would fundamentally change the character of the United States. I mean, again, America is America because of yes, for people, but also her values. And those are one in the same or should be one in the same. If you're bringing in people who disagree with those values at a fundamental level, you are actively undermining the America that I think all of us should care about. Yeah, that's right.

It was Charlie Kirk's funeral, right? You told everyone to go back to church? Yes. Yes. Go to church. I've only said that a million times. I've only said that a million times. I respect that you didn't say go to the mosque.

It's like, you know, there's something fundamental, actually. There's something important about going to church in America. Well, again, America was rooted in Christian values. Those may have been secularized through the Constitution, through the Declaration of Independence, but the fundamental soil from which America grew obviously is rooted in Protestant Christianity predominantly because, again, the founders were quite Protestants in their orientation, and they were very unique in their Anglo-American approach to jurisprudence and law.

If you wipe away the soil, it's very difficult to grow the plants. Yes. So, okay. So your immigration policy would look very much like the Trump policy. I think that what they're doing with H-1B is to do the $200,000, I think it's up to $200,000 per H-1B application. what that does is it actually redefines the program back to what it was originally intended for, which is the best of the best. If you're willing to pay $200,000 for an application,

you better be getting an Elon Musk, right, or Jensen Huang. I mean, I think that's right. And I think the H-1B visa program was always an attempt to balance the reality of offshoring with the reality of wanting to maintain jobs in the United States, just on a pure economic level, if the wage level rises in the United States to a point where businesses are going to fire everybody and then hire everybody over in India, then one of the bargains of maintaining American jobs would actually be allowing the importation of certain levels of labor. So to keep the average wage base at a certain level. I mean, basic economics does play a part here. So if you want to preserve jobs in America, you do have to prevent businesses from literally taking their entire factory and just moving

it abroad. And so that is one of the reasons for H-1B visas. But, you know, again, I do think that if you have highly qualified immigrants who want to come here, be part of the American system, embrace the Constitution, embrace the Declaration of Independence, you know, be a part of the social fabric, and also contribute heavily to our extraordinary economy. I'm in favor of that. I don't think there are some people who are just like, shut the doors, no one comes in.

That's not my program. I think that the world would be a much darker and worse place had Elon Moss not become an American citizen. I totally, you know, I completely agree. I think that the systems have been abused. Part of the reason why this photo from Texas goes viral is because it's very easy to walk into 7-Elevens in Frisco, Texas and find H-1B workers working at a cashier.

And that is like an open and criminal abuse of the H-1B system. What that is is just a legalized, illegal immigration that is predominantly predicated by Indians to come here and to bring family members over here and specific caste systems and to bring a foreign culture over here in order to manipulate jobs

and take those jobs from Americans. I mean, that's like, there's like the most obvious low-hanging fruit and there's plenty of DOJ filings about this. Yes. I mean, again, I actually think of that. And it's like, that's like people I think it's so angry is because on its face,

that's almost worse than illegal immigration because it's, it's manipulating the rules to the extreme detriment of like, a young 16-year-old Texan that needs that cashier job to get like a start in life, right? I mean, obviously, I agree with a lot of this. I think that one of the things that, you know, not to get to into arcane immigration policy, but it really is less the H-1B visas per se, which account for approximately 750,000 jobs in an economy with 164 million jobs.

It really is the chain migration that's attached to the H-1B visas, right? It's the fact that you have family reunification programs that have been part of the American immigration system since the Immigration Naturalization Act, the Hartzeller Act of 1960. That's what radically shifted the way that immigration was done. It's what led to rapid demographic change that you're talking about in all of these places. Yes. Demographic change from places that not, you mean, it's not just the incompatibility with the culture itself. It is the adherence to religions and systems and courts and militant ideologies that are wholly here to conquer the country and to change it forever and to never assimilate. and it should have never been allowed. I think that Hartseller is probably the worst piece of legislation that's been passed in the last hundred years.

I think it's hard to argue that one. I think it's very easy to argue that one. But, yeah, it's something that I just find profoundly, you know, the more that you, like, sit back and look at how the country's changing, the more you realize just how fragile Western civilization actually is. And the more you look at what's happening in Europe, you realize the same thing. And Israel wouldn't be the same place if, you know, five, 10 million Christians were naturalized there or 10 million Muslims were naturalized there or 10 million Hindus were naturalized there, right?

I don't like have a problem. There are 50 majority Muslim countries where it's practically illegal to be another religion. Like I don't intend on invading or colonizing any of those places. I don't want to. I don't ever want to visit those places. You know, same thing with Israel, right? Like that's the single Jewish state. Okay.

But like, but maybe you can answer this question. Why is it, why is it so wrong to want a Christian state? Why is it so wrong to say like this is the predominant culture that built this nation and we should want to preserve that actually. We're the indigenous people of America, you know, we're the indigenous people. Why can't we preserve that? Why are you called an ethno-stater or any slur or pejorative on the internet if you want to actually preserve that? Now, again, I don't think it's wrong to want a Christian state at all. I think there are several states, including, for example, Poland, where it's actually written into the constitution of the state that it's a Christian state.

the United States happens to be unique in the fact that it's not written into our law. There were states at the origin where it was written into the law that you had to be a Protestant in order to hold public office. So it actually barred Catholics, it barred Jews, it barred Muslims, barred everybody who was not a Protestant that I believe was true to eight of the original 13 states, nine of the original 13 states. So, you know, it depends on how restrictionist you want to get about all of this. But the reality is America, one of the things about America that's kind of unique is that America is really a Burkean state.

What I mean by that, again, to use the metaphor. America grew in Christian soil, but Christianity is not formally embedded in our law, right? Freedom of religion and Congress not establishing religion is embedded in our law. That's not the same thing as saying that it's not important to maintain the Christian nature of the social fabric of the United States. Of course, that's something that I've been calling for literally my entire career. I mean, as you said, I didn't just start saying go to church when Charlie got murdered. I've been saying go to church for literally my entire political career, which goes back 25 years at this point, because in the absence of a church going public,

a heavily Christian public, you end up losing the values that undergird all of the other things. undergird, free markets, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and all the constitutional values. I mean, this is the argument that Burke was making about the founding documents. He was saying, these are not ideas that came to anybody tabula rasa. These are natural outgrowths of a Christian worldview that has been then funneled through a particular set of circumstances in England and then in the United States. And so I think that you can hold two thoughts at the same time. One of the reasons that America is exceptional is because America is, in fact, more tolerance of other religions than formerly Christian states that have

existed here to four in, say, the 14th or 15th century, there were full theocracies. America does have freedom of religion. That is a very good thing. That is a different thing from saying that the Christian majority culture of the United States, the Anglo-Christian culture, the Anglo-American culture, the Anglo-Protestine culture that America was built on ought to somehow disappear or is irrelevant to the continued thriving of the field that is America. Yeah, I think that the solution here obviously is not rewriting our founding documents into a

I think it's being much smarter with our immigration policy and places that will be compatible with Western civilization in which we're not. And all of our grandparents grew up in a system that didn't have the heartseller act. And it was a much more harmonious and peaceful nation. And it didn't have cities that were predominantly foreign or had the call to prayer to a different foreign land five times a day. I mean, this kind of things just didn't exist. You know, I think that the immigration policy is really the question. I mean, that is ultimately the question, both legal and illegal. I mean, again, I think there are actually two questions.

One is immigration policy, and then there's the stuff that we have to do outside of government. I know that we, you know, in the job that both you and I do, we're talking about government policy all day long, which, of course, is deeply important. But the reality is that the Christian culture of the United States was predominantly not inculcated by law. It was just in the system. It was part of the growth of America. It was just in the air.

In the way that a fish doesn't know it's swimming in water. We were all swimming in biblical water until very recently. And so the draining of the pond, which did happen largely because of government policy, but also because of just general irreligiosity in the United States, people voluntarily not going to church. And that's not something you're going to use the government to force people to do. It's why I think what Charlie was trying to do with TPA USA by getting people, again, people should go back to church. It's not the government should put a gun to somebody's head and say you need to go back to church. People should go back to church because it is good for them, because it is better for society, because biblical values are a better way of living than non-biblical values. All of that is definitely true. But when you combine, the increasing secularization of the domestic American population with importing large swaths of people from communities that don't agree with Western values, you end up with a world of hurt, which is, I think, where we are. It gives me so much trouble when I say this and the chat melts down. And so here's your, you know, boomer trigger warning. But I don't think any generation quite understands what it's like raising children today in 2026. They didn't realize sort of the

fish and water metaphor that you just used that every single American generation up until very, very recently, up until really the 1980s and 1990s could trust that everywhere that they went in America was going to be a predominantly Christian neighborhood city, that it was going to have a very similar sense of values. There were always like give and take and obviously hate Ashbury and San Francisco and stuff. And there were hippie movements and things. But like really a lot of it, like the American culture was homogenous in the sense that there was like it was 90 plus percent Christian and that has dissent I mean that is collapsed by half in the time span of a single generation and has changed fundamentally and it's created a massive

problem and created a enormous problem that's truly and totally unique only to young people living today and raising their children today and having to ask the ex-essential questions of like, where, I mean, what cities am I going to raise my kids in? What schools are I going to put them in? It's why you're seeing mass population movement in the United States. It's why people are moving to the south where people tend to be a lot more religious, right? I move my family from L.A., which was, I think, incompatible with the belief system of my family to Florida, which is significantly more compatible with the belief system of my family. And by the way, when we're talking about kind of government policies that have effectively undermined religion, it's not just a

immigration policy, which clearly has. It is also welfare policy, which is radically undermined religion. One of the reasons why people used to go to church is because church provided you for the support network for when something went wrong in your life. Ben, you're a member of church, a member of synagogue. If somebody in our community loses their job, everybody mobilizes to try and find that person a job. If somebody falls on hard times, needs health care, we all try to kind of mobilize to support that. If government steps into the breach and becomes the great welfare carer for this, then the incentive to be part of a social fabric where you owe something back to your community totally change. Because receiving charity from your neighbors is a very different thing from receiving a nameless check from a government that doesn't tell you where that money came from.

And that entitlement sort of mentality, which is bled through American society, is totally antithetical to sort of biblical living in general and to church morality in particular. Again, the idea was that if you're going to draw from the communal stores as a member of church, you're also going to have to give back in the sense that you were going to live by the values of the church. That is one of the things that you had to do. And so when you get rid of the economic incentive for people to actually go to church, people stop going to church. It turns out that they don't want to sit in the pews on a Sunday because it's actually hard to sit in the pews on a Sunday. I mean, from a Jewish perspective, it's not all that easy to turn off your electronic devices

and just, you know, be in your community and not use a car from Friday night to Saturday night. The reason you do that is to be part of the social fabric. And until we'll reincentivize people and re-engage people with that social fabric, we're failing. And so I think that when conservatives talk only about government policy, yes, government policy is huge. And it mostly can destroy religion. Like an ounce of government can destroy a pound of religion pretty, pretty quickly. I mean, that's the story of the French Revolution, the Russian

revolution, and now the welfare revolution and the immigration revolution in the West. It's also that you need to rebuild the stuff ground up. There needs to be an actual effort on a ground level to actually go and engage with people and get them to rebuild the social fabric. That is a very difficult thing. What we've really done is we've taken the work of legitimately thousands of years in building that in creating that water that we could all swim in, and we've drained it. And it's very, it's a lot harder to fill the pond than to drain it, as it turns out. Yeah. You also destroy the family by doing that.

And you destroy fathers. And you incentivize, of course, the worst possible behavior when it comes to family creation with the welfare state. And that also, like, continues and accelerates the atomization of civic culture and religiosity as you have all these, you know, struggling, mothers. And the pushback that I saw from the Trump administration for saying that, okay, well, we're going to take some of these funds and we're going to get it to stay at home mothers. Like, what do you think about that? I just couldn't believe some of the, you know, rabid responses I saw on that. My, I mean, my look on this is that when it comes to appropriations, the money's been appropriated. At the very least, the federal government should be incentivizing positive behavior

and not negative behavior. For 60 years, the welfare state has virtually exclusively incentivized single motherhood to the point of like LBJ sending minors. to the homes of black Americans to just check to see if there's a father around, right? They'll take your welfare if there's a dad in the home. I think that's perhaps maybe the most corrosive thing the federal government's done, you know, in a generation. But that's also like a result of the welfare programs. Like a system can be defined by its outcome, right?

So what does the system do? Well, look at the outcome. The outcome is fatherlessness, right? The welfare program destroyed families and a lot more poor people. Yes. I mean, that obviously is true. I think when you're talking about the administration's plan to sort of re, you know, re-delegate that money to stay-at-home moms, the best argument in favor of this is that basically the money's there anyway. We're not getting rid of the program, so you may as well use it in better ways. I think that that is the steelman argument for that position. I think there are basically, you know, sort of three levels at which you can discuss this particular policy. There is the level of efficacy. There's the level of which sort of level of government ought to do this. And there's the ideological. Ideologically, I have no problem with particularly local governments doing this sort of thing to incentivize people to stay at home with their kids, to have more kids. I really don't have any problem with that. I think it's best left to the local level, mainly because you care more about

your neighbors than you do have people who are very far away. And so it tends to be a little more workable in that, as opposed to the federal government. And then you get to the sort of, ideological of it. Again, I don't have any problem with the idea that if a local community wishes to it and I think should incentivize this sort of stuff, great. The real problem I have with that program is that it's just to me, the evidence that it would be effective is extremely low. did a lot more to try and incentivize child birth and child, child rearing. And it was really quite a failure. I mean, they had significant, listen, I would love for them to do that because I would be income tax free, which would be awesome. So on a personal level, I'm cutting against my own interest here. I have five kids.

So I would be very happy to take the Hungarian policy if you paid no income tax if you have more than three. That sounds incredible to me. But it did not actually end up incentivizing child bearing and rearing, mainly because that is a spiritual problem, not predominantly a problem of economics. I think one of the things that I'm seeing on the right that I object to is the idea of a category. There's a category error. There's a problem. And so we say it must be an economic problem. That seems to me a materialist problem that is being a spiritual problem that's being

channeled into materialism. There are communities in the United States where the number of kids you have is actually well above replacement rates. And they all look the same. They all have high levels of religious adherents. That is the actual commonality. In the West, no one is having kids except the religious people, period. That's the actual way that it works.

And again, to get into the demographic discussion, if you have a culture that fosters that, and if it's just in the water, people tend to have kids. And so the more religiously oriented and patriotic a country is, the more kids people tend to have. I don't think that's going to be solved by cutting a check. I think there are things that government can do that are better and worse. This one seems to me, you know, marginal. I would rather the money go to a stay-at-home mom than go to it, then go to, you know,

just to get single mom back to work. But I see the potential for waste fraud. Governmental policy is a little difficult. I don't see it the same way some do on the right, which is like, this is just another socialistic program. It's just another redistributionist program. To me, the main quibble that I have is really one more of efficacy than anything else. And it goes back to this.

Like, Benny, you have a bunch of kids. I don't think that you would have had more kids or will have more kids if you get a $5,000 check. It ain't enough to pay for your kids. Your kids are really, really, really expensive. The truth is that we have radically shifted the nature of having kids. Also, the most important stat, people aren't getting married. married people are having about the same number of kids right now that they were having back in the 1970s.

It is not that married couples aren't having more kids. It's that no one is getting married. So what we actually have in the United States and across the West is a crisis of marriage, less than a crisis of married people not having kids. When you parse that data based on political ideology, you can truly see the legacy of Charlie Kirk living today. I mean, we were at the Dallas Convention and we then went to a college campus to do a turning point tailgate. And the number of kids, Ben, that come up to me and say, I'm 24. five and I decided to get married because of Charlie and because of the work that he did. And now we're expecting our first baby. And you would never see that. I've been doing college

campus events. You've been doing college campus events for decades now. I never used to hear that at all. And now that is probably the most normalized thing that I do hear. And it's very, very neat. And I think that if you if you break out the data on children and marriages, you can see that it's actually a party thing. That the decline and the birth rate is actually entirely driven by a catastrophic decision by leftists, by self-identified leftists and Democrats to not procreate, to take themselves out of the gene pool. Right, which I'm totally fine with. I went to the DNC convention. Bro, I went to the D&C convention. I saw the vasectomy bus myself. It's a real thing. I saw the line out the door to get vasectomies. I'm like, how can I pay for one of these?

You know, how can I fund? How can I do like a go fund me? You know, we could do this together. You go fund me for the vasectomy bus for every DNC convention, every Hassan Piker rally. Like, we should put one outside. And listen, I, I'm in favor of. more humans. I like more humans. I like babies. And so, you know, I hope that even the leftists come around, get married and have kids and then start leading responsible normal lives. I don't. There's our, I don't. There's our disagree. Okay. Fair enough. But I think that, you know, the key element here is that, again, we as a society have taught people that the sexes are opposed to one another as opposed to in partnership with one another. That has been a massive, massive mistake on the part of society.

Again, people are not having kids and not getting married, unfortunately, because they're choosing not to have kids and not to get married, which, again, is why I will call for the 90,000th time that people need to re-engage with communities because, again, it's in the water. People tend to have more kids when they're around people who have more kids. I mean, this is just a reality. Like in my local community, we have five, my sister has five, all of our friends who had four, then had a fifth. Like, it just becomes a thing because it's not keeping up with the Joneses per se,

but it's just cool. Kids are wonderful. They are awesome. They're gigantic pain in the ass, as everyone knows, who actually has children. all of those things are simultaneously true. And that's why you basically have to have a religious commitment or an ideological commitment to want to have children. And again, you see this in religious communities across the West.

You also see it, not to cite a sore subject for a lot of folks, but the only country in the West that has an above replacement rate of having babies is Israel. It is the only place. They have about three babies per family. In Israel, the fertility rate is incredibly high in Tel Aviv. And Tel Aviv has the politics of like San Francisco. Why? Because they all have religious cousins.

And even the seculares in Tel Aviv are people who keep a baseline, level of sort of Jewish tradition and also are quite patriotic because they're in a region of the world where they're under constant attack. So I think that same model should be applied in the West. Like, again, people should hang out with people with more kids. That usually involves going back to church, involves getting involved in your social fabric and make it cool to have kids again is a good thing. I think this is one of the things the vice president, I think is done beautifully. And I wish that he would do more. I wish you would talk more about how many kids that he has. I wish that he would feature more of Usha and the kids, not less, because I think that that's actually one of the

signal benefits of having a young vice president with a brand new baby is being able to say to people, listen, it is awesome to have kids. I love that he brings them into public spaces. I love that Ushah brings them into public spaces. I think that's wonderful, modeling that behavior to an entire generation of people and saying, you know, it may not bring you instantaneous joy, but it brings you lifelong happiness and fulfillment. That is the message that needs to be spread. Kate, and I get attacked all the time for posting about the joys of parenthood and the ecstasy and the euphoria of having children and just the little moments with them. And, you know, people attack us because I think there's a lot of people that, like, have self-loathing, or maybe they don't have kids,

or maybe they're intimidated by people that are living happy lives. I don't know. It's like, you know, Daddy didn't love me. I'm not sure. But, you know, I think that it's the only way that you're going to fight the childless nihilism of culture, because you'll never find the veneration of families in media. Maybe you'll make a movie about it. I'm not sure, but you just, you never see this.

You only ever see friends, sex in the city, Seinfeld. there is actually nothing that drives. And I think that that actually had a profound effect on the parenthood rate and the childhood rate. And I wasn't sure if I wanted kids and so we started having kids. And now lo and behold, all of our friends have four kids. All of our friends. All of our friends.

My house is filled with like 50 kids. It's like 50 kids swimming in the pool. Every single weekend. Everybody that we know has tons of kids. And I think that's probably the most positive thing happening in the country right now. It's certainly the only way that we'll survive as a people. people on a nation. Okay, we have a final parting gift for you, Ben. And it's this. It's Kamala Harris with the office actress Mindy Kaling. And here she is saying that she's an Indian.

People at the supermarket. Okay. So what we're going to cook today is an Indian recipe. Yes. Because you are idiot. Yes. Okay. And I don't know that everybody knows that. But I find that wherever I go and I see Indian people at the supermarket on the street. Everyone's like, you know, Kamala Harris is Indian, right? It's like our thing we're so excited about. I don't know why they have to whisper it. I'm not sure. I just hope that she runs again.

Ben, parting shot here. Who's going to, who's it going to be in 2028? Honestly, I think Kamala Harris has an absolutely obvious shot at the nomination. I think Gavin Newsom's saying that he's not going to run against her if she runs is actually true. South Carolina is the first state. I think that she is a formidable favorite there. And so if you enjoyed 2020 and 2024, then I welcome you to,

return of the of the annoying Jedi part three of the Kamala Harris saga it it'll it'll be interesting at least I get to break out the the Kamala impression again one of the sad things about our industry is when you develop some sort of kind of general impersonation of somebody and then they go off the political scene well it's kind of fun when they come back and get to the kind of the nasal voice of columnist that that will return this is Ben Shapiro's social media you probably already follow if you don't check out the daily wires new movie at Run, Hide, Fight, Infidels, and I guess more to come. Thank you, Ben.

Fascinating conversation. Thanks so much, Benny. Well, wasn't planning on that. Wasn't planning on it going there. But that's very interesting. And I also wasn't planning on that interview being 40 minutes. Okay. Well, thanks.

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Like, might as well just go ahead and ask. Here's some Bible verses. Here's a Christian worldview. We should be able to have Christian countries. There's nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your country. There's nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your, like, the cultures and traditions that made America America. In fact, like, it's not out of hatred for anyone because we don't hate anyone that's against our religion, right? It's out of love for people that we want to preserve America.

So, fascinating conversation. points of agreement that I wasn't planning on. And never a dull moment. Ladies and gentlemen, where did you watch that interview? Was it on your Patriot mobile device? I don't know. I did. I watched my Patriot mobile device.

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Again, I didn't know. What do we think about that interview, chat? What do we think about that interview? Did you like it? What do we think, chat? It's very interesting. And didn't, again,

I didn't intend on like having such agreements with Ben. Maybe, I don't know. I'm going to have to rewind the tape. But I, maybe it's because I believe the memes. I was like, I was like expecting perhaps like a slightly more open borders

or globalist perspective on American immigration. Certainly tweets that he has sent have been construed as being far more in favor of a more laxed and lenient immigration policies. But I thought his answers were adequate. Yeah. What do we think, chat? What do you think? We have some comments on here. And it's like, yo, what's up?

Benny, Benny, what's up? What up, chat? How we doing? Should we do with Benny in the chat? Here we go. Hateful Haitian. ICE deports Haitian illegal alien who went viral for shouting that he'll never be deported.

Okay. Here's a clip. I just love this. I love it when the memes come to life. So this is the meme coming to life. This is the Haitian that said, I'm never going back to Haiti. I ain't going back to Haiti, bro.

never going back to Haiti. One of those threats is this illegal aliens. Sometimes the clip plays. There you go. There you go. Start from the very beginning. I'm not going back to Haiti. One of those threats is this. He went back to Haiti. Yes.

He went back to Haiti. Give you the rap horn. He went back to Haiti. That's right. All right. Let's go ahead and see what happened to our exciting Haitian. Oh, look, they got a photo of him and everything. Exclusive.

Haitian, the gang member who screamed, I'll never go back to Haiti. He's back in Haiti. Haitian gang member and illegal alien who defiantly told Fox News cameras, I'm not going back to Haiti and shouted Biden forever during his viral U.S. immigration

and customs enforcement arrest has been deported to Haiti. After spending 19 months in federal custody, 19 months. Dude. His name is Wise Justin Jean-Shehawals Okay, very fancy name

For like the worst country He was deported on an ice flight Originating from Louisiana Why did he spend so long in America? Sources told Fox News That Shals was extremely combative aboard the aircraft And made crude profane and threatening remarks

About President Donald Trump And his family during the deportation flight Oh no, look at this Look at this photo of him Oh no, look at this Scroll down, please Look at this Look at him go.

Look at him in the plane seat. These are the people. These are the people at Donald Trump. This is the people that, like, Trump saves us from. This is the people that Joe Biden led into our country. These are the people that were brought in by the millions. These people. And Joe Biden said they're here to enrich us.

This is the, this should be the photo that you think about when you vote in the midterm election, that this guy popped off and screamed, I'm not going back to Haiti, and then gets shoved into a chair, chained into a chair, and then get sent back to Haiti. That is what I voted for. Got what I voted for. Again. Got what I voted for again. I love this.

And, yeah, I'm like, look at this. Charles remained in federal custody for approximately 19 months after his arrest. as his immigration case proceeded. Amazing thing is that, like, these people, these people can, like, live here for years and years and years, waiting for their little immigration cases. We need to have, we need to have, like, roving deportation courts, right? Like instant courts that, like, can make these decisions in hours

and then deport them in hours. That's what we need. We need a system of, like, deportation court, like traveling deportation, like strike courts where like you you get like a seven second trial and you're gone right maybe the courts can be on the plane as you're leaving America I'm not sure I don't know just a thought just a thought benevolent dictator Benny

benevolent dictator Benny something that will happen something that I shall promise you strike immigration courts in the back of C-17 and the judges just rule mass rule on deportations as the plane is flying out of the country. Gotcha. All right, ladies and gentlemen, that is something that I will promise you. Also, a sound economy is something that I will promise you.

Will we return to the gold standard under benevolent dictator Johnson? I don't know. But you can have the gold standard in your bank account with advantage of gold. Advantage gold can make sure that you have a solid gold future. I mean, there are ups and downs for sure in the economy, and it enrages me and makes me so angry. I'm upset. about the state of the economy.

I'm upset about the price of gas. I'm upset about the price of groceries. I'm upset about the price of homes. And, man, I didn't ask Ben Shapiro about the $20 burrito. I should have done that. What was I thinking? We should have like had the $20 burrito. ALX, come on, man.

It's just the thing that happened all like in the summer. It happened like two, it happened like a month or two ago. And so it was like the drama. The drama was like not exactly there on the top of mind. So, shucks. $20 burrito. Well, anyway, the point is that the economy's gone haywire. I hate it.

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Okay. Blanche confirms criminal investigation into Ilhan Omar. Ooh. There we go. Blanche confirms that Ilhan Omar is getting investigated. Let's go ahead and listen in. And just one more little data point in our role here against Ilhan. And very exciting.

I feel like news is imminent. I feel like news on this is imminent. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. This is Todd Blanche on Ilhan. Thank you, sir. I had two questions for you, if that's okay. The first, Tom Homan said on Sunday that Homeland Security Investigations

is actively investigating Ilhan Omar. If she's found a committed immigration fraud, would the Trump administration deport her? And then second question is, There's concern among the MAGA base that there's a lot of ideological actors in the FBI and DOJ still that are waiting out President Donald Trump and the next possible Republican administration to get back to doing what they were before. Are you concerned about that and what are you doing about that? So I'm not talking about ongoing criminal investigations and so I don't have anything to say about your first question or anybody that's public reporting about what others have said about ongoing investigations. on ideological, any ideology that any federal employee has,

whether it's a federal agent or somebody at the Department of Justice or any other agency that works in this administration and the executive is never a good thing, whether it's Republican or Democrat. And so I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to except for just generally, but one of the things that Director Patel has been doing and that I've been doing and other cabinet secretaries have been doing

is making sure that everybody that works in this administration, whether you're a career or a political, are doing work that's consistent with the president's agenda. And that's what you have to do. If you're going to work in the executive, that's what Article 2 says. And so it's not something that I, quote, worry about, unquote, but when we and if we learn about that happening, we'll do whatever we can to stop it. So it is happening. I mean, he confirmed that she's under investigation.

Attorney General Tom Blatch declined to comment because it is an ongoing investigation until we'll know her. So there you go. I'm not going to comment on an ongoing investigation. So that, I mean, effectively confirms that it's going to happen. What's going to happen? I don't know. I hope that she gets charged. We need her to get charged.

The reason why is, I mean, I think that she's something that. just her presence in America is an insult to our nation. It is parasitic in the extreme and a disaster for us because it proves to the rest of the third world that you can come here and rig our systems and gamify everything. Instead of like bowing your head and being grateful that we took you in and living under the banner of freedom and the shadow of freedom that we all built for you and you get the privilege of coming here after the country was already created. and prosperous and living out and then assimilating, doing everything that you possibly could to assimilate and to not be divisive in our culture and to not take advantage of our generosity, they do the exact opposite. And it's a signal to the third world.

It's the signal. And it's the signal that I hate. And that's something that very much makes me upset. And it incentivizes more people from the third world to come here and do exactly what Ilhan Omar did. be ungrateful, immediately start engaging in divisive politics. I just, the bloody cheek of these people, to come here, be a guest in our homeland. Like, imagine like you went to, like, something terrible happened to your town and you went and traveled to a different nation.

You were brought in by a different nation that has very different customs from you. And like, what would you do? In gratitude for that, you would probably. learn as much as you possibly could about the nation that is sheltering you, bow your head in thanks to the prevailing culture that allowed for you to come in and to try and prove that their decision to let you in was the correct one. Like you'd spend every waking moment trying to like be as dutiful and productive and as good of a member of the civil society as possible without rocking any boats because all these

conversations, all these problems are not your problems. You didn't build the culture. You're not part of the culture. The debates that these people are having have been going on for millennia before you. This is an established place. You're just lucky to be living under the shadow, under the banner of protection of this place. So what do you get to do? Like, you get to shut your mouth and to play your part as being as productive of a member of society as possible. That is your role as an immigrant. to this country. And what do we see now?

Do we see that? Perhaps there was a time when there were a lot less immigrants to this nation, that that is exactly what they did. Now that there is entire corridors and majorities in some places of immigrants, what you get is a divisive culture that is designed in order to fraction and to irritate and to fundamentally break American society and it is corrosive in the extreme and they have no gratitude.

They get right off the plane and expect to check. They get right off the plane and expect free housing and food. They get right off the boat or the plane and expect to be coddled by the court system. Expect people to learn their languages. You know, pronounce their words. Like expect us to adhere to. them and the prosecution of Ilhan Omar would be a signal that we're not doing this anymore,

that we've had enough, enough, we've had enough. We're not doing it anymore. Verse of the day, ladies and gentlemen, Ecclesiastes 725. I've turned my heart towards knowledge. I sought and pertude wisdom and its design, and I recognize the wickedness and foolishness, folly and madness. I've turned my heart towards knowledge. Now, please, bow your head and pray for wisdom.

And do it every single day. Wisdom and strength is what I pray for. Do not allow for wickedness and foolishness and folly and madness in your life. Seek after wisdom from God as a very noble pursuit. Everybody needs it no matter what they're doing. Ladies and gentlemen, hopefully we provide a little bit of that for you every single day. It's your boy, Benny. March with us on to victory.

That is assured. We're going to win. We'll get a win. See you. The biggest ships in the sea, all owned by the oldest kings. And the dying legacy, media deal leaves. Oh, come to mind the salt from lives for fun, leave the gold and bring the gun. We sail for number one.

Come to mind the salt from lives for fun. Leave the gold and bring the gun. We sail for number one. The biggest ships in the sea, all owned by the oldest king. The news moves fast, but the truth should not get lost in the game. chaos. I'm Sean Ferris, host of Sean Ferris Live. Each episode of my show brings you the biggest political stories of the day. We're grounded in common sense analysis, a little bit of sharp humor. Now, if you're tired of the spin, the fake news, the phonies, and the losers. And you're

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