The Benny Show - The Tom Homan Interview: Fighting Demons With Mass Deportations

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So much for fixing my porch, Handy, manny. And with the lowest prices in town. Stand back, ma'am. We're deporting this illegal hombre back to Taco Town. Illigo? What's up, guys? Good morning. Today is April 23, 2026. It is a Thursday, and I'm stuck at an airport in Dallas, Fort Worth, in my hotel.
Starting point is 00:00:28 after a rowdy night last night in Waco, Texas, Baylor University, where the kids went ballistic for Bordersar Tom Holman. Don't think for a second that America is done yet. I'm going to show you some things that will inspire you, lift you up, and will hype some wins from the Trump administration in a time when we really need to start talking about that more. And it's something that is my major takeaway from the event last night. having worked with Charlie for close to a decade and having built with him, he was constantly optimistic and he was constantly wanting to bring factions together. Charlie was the man who brought Elon Musk together with Donald Trump, RFK. He fused that relationship. J.D. Vance.
Starting point is 00:01:11 By the way, I asked about Ilhan Omar's immigration status and some of the files that the Trump administration has on Ilhan Omar last night with Tom Homan. And we'll get to that, believe that. This is something that we need to do more of. We need to hype more wins. We need to talk more about our common enemy, which is, of course, the Marxist left. No, it wouldn't be better if Kamala Harris was president right now. No, we wouldn't have a better country. We certainly wouldn't have a secure border.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Look at this. These are the asylum rates and acceptance rates under Biden versus Trump down 99%. This is the population of foreign-born. criminal aliens in our biggest cities dropping through the floor. These are the numbers of deportations. Criminal arrests on the street. Self deportations. Look at this, up 28%.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Asylum grant rates have plummeted and the border is effectively closed. Tom Holman told us last night that the border has had 12 people show up at it yesterday. The kids were cheering for Tom Holman. It was a blast. It was really neat to be able to actually get some time to speak with them. This is a Tom Holman appreciation post. This man has overseen more deportations than any borders are in human history. Damn, Stuart.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Thanks, man. Tom, I have an appreciation post. And the kids, in spite of Baylor University, trying to shut us down, the kids showed up en masse. It was a packed house. And it was inspiring. I wish to share that with you. because we need to do more. We need more uplifting.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It's something that Charlie was always constantly about, and it's something that turning point USA truly demonstrated last night, even though, again, the university tried to shut us down. It's a beautiful USA chance. Again, the university didn't want this. The university effectively canceled the event, canceled 4,500 tickets, wouldn't let anybody in the event except for students. and then moved the venue to a much, much smaller auditorium.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Again, they tried to move it off campus entirely. When we wouldn't let them, they then immediately approved a grant for left-wingers to show up and protest our event. Here's how that went, by the way. It's always who you think it'd be, right? It's always take away the paychecks from USAID and George Soros, and you get nobody here. It's just the homeless person sleeping in the corner. There's nobody here. Every person here is a paid activist with a little yellow vest on.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Every person here. It's all fake. It's all Astrof. As fake as the Virginia election yesterday. This is what the left wing protest looked like. Yeah, okay. How can you hate from outside the club? You can't even get in.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It was a total and complete blast. Again, I will play you the full and uncensored interview with Tom Holman in just one moment. We do want to really lock in for the midterms. The country is at stake. It is important that we continue to follow in the footsteps of Charlie and continue to uplift. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to try and do on this program. Before we get there, our partner for today's show, Venice AI, stop giving your data when you are searching or using AI to these creepy companies that will log it and hold it forever and maybe use it against you. Venice AI is encrypted end-to-end security so you know that everything you are doing on an AI model is, in fact, secure and that will never be stolen from you.
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Starting point is 00:06:38 Go to patreon.com.com slash Benny or call 972 Patriot. You use a promo code, Benny, for a free month of service. That's patron.mobile.com slash Benny and call 972 Patriot to make the switch today. Ladies and gentlemen, let's make the switch over to Tom Homan at Baylor University, our interview, a rowdy house, lots of fun. The kids wanted their borders are. They were fans of their fans of their borders are. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, here we go. Tom Homan.
Starting point is 00:07:12 What a G. He's got like this, he's got like this persona, right? It's good. It's nice when the persona sort of like matches the position. Tom Homan is the man. Who's a huge fan of Tom Homan here in the numbers that he's been putting up? Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for being here with us. Oh, I'm happy to be a huge fan. And, T.P. USA, God bless you.
Starting point is 00:07:42 You're going, as Benny said earlier, you're going to change the trajectory of this nation. I just set you up with some of these incredible chart. Asylum rates crashing through the floor. I think perhaps at historic lows, certainly in our generation, in every lifetime of every person here. Deportations, arrests up. The administration is actually doing what they promised on this front. And I want to get sort of your landscape
Starting point is 00:08:10 on how the first 18 months have gone when it comes to the enforcement of the vision of Donald Trump on immigration. Look, we're doing great. We're setting historic records. But we got to do more. And now that we hired, we're in process hiring 10,000 new deportation officers, which doubles the size of the deportation force. Do you think it was good this year?
Starting point is 00:08:32 Wait to next year. No, but when President Trump called me, I was actually, this is the second time I came out of retirement for the president. My wife still pissed off. But I was sitting at the dinner table. My phone starts buzzing and says, POTUS. My wife looks at Emerson's oh my god. You going back?
Starting point is 00:08:57 I said, well, let's see what he has to say. So he called me up. And the first thing he said to me is, you've been bitching a bottle for four years. I want to come back and fix it? How do you say no to that, right? So he said, I want three things. I want you to secure the border.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I want you to oversee a mass deportation operation. I want you to find these 300,000 missing children that Biden released to unvetted sponsors that were missing. Those are three things he gave me. And look, we're doing great. It's no, most secure border in history of the nation today. Never been more secure than it is right now. That means a lot to the people of Texas, right?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Everyone in Texas has got a story. Everybody in Texas has got a story. During Biden years, we're dealing with some days 12,000 people coming to the border. Yesterday, 116, and every one was turned around. So, zero releases from the border in the last 11 month. Deportations, you know, together, Iceland, border church got a little more 800. 100, ICE loans, about 600, which is an historic record. The biggest year before then was in 2012, or Obama at 409,000.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And I was actually given a word by President Obama for deporting so many people, but they don't want to admit it today. But historic deportation numbers, but we need to do more. And that's what we're going to focus on this past year. We need to do more. We've got a lot more to find. But as far as the kids, because of President Trump's leadership, he promised American people this.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And I promise you this. 300,000 missing children, because of President Trump, we've already found 146,000 of them. And that's 146,000 children the last administration wasn't even looking for. And were all in danger? No. Some were with families hiding out. They didn't want to be deported, and they didn't want to go to immigration court. But many, too many, were involved in forced sex trafficking and forced labor.
Starting point is 00:11:01 If people want to say this administration is inhumane. Trump saved thousands of children from sex trafficking and forced labor. This is a great president. Greatest president in my lifetime. And I'll end it with this. I mean the president talked about this just a few days ago. We're going to run down every single lead on these children. Problem is you all have a footprint. We can find you. You have a car, you pay mortgage, you pay rent, you got utility bills, you got tuition. We can find adults because they got a footprint, digital footprint. Children don't have a digital footprint. So I told the president in that first phone call, we'll get secured a border, done it before and do it again. This time we'll kick the Trump 45's ass,
Starting point is 00:11:47 and Trump 47 is going to break no records. We can have a mass deportation operation. We've got plenty of a fine because of the four years of open border. The children are the most difficult because they don't have that digital footprint. So we have to count on the digital footprint of the sponsors, the unvetted sponsors. And what we've learned is many of the addresses provided that weren't verified by the Biden administration are parking lots grocery stores schools so HSI Homeland Security Investigation long the FBI is working really really hard and they found 146,000 but President Trump's made a promise we're going to run down every single lead until we find every one of them and you know unfortunately
Starting point is 00:12:28 about dozen I've already died either from natural causes or some violence about 12 of these children died but Till the last day President Trump's in the Oval Office, we're going to run down every need. And I'll make another promise. I'll be involved in this until the day I die. I want to find every one of these children. And so the ain't just administration thing that's a homeowner. So many follow-up questions there, but I just, I can't help myself.
Starting point is 00:13:01 What is it in you that brings you to this level of conviction? Because you just said, till the day I die, I will be going to find children that may be from Guatemala, Honduras, they might not even speak your language, probably don't. But you are devoting your life to this. Why? Because of what I've seen in the last 40 years of my career. I started in Boerton, in 1984. I wore that uniform.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I was an ice agent. I was the first ice director who came up through the ranks. So the things I've seen in my career has changed the man I am. I mean, I've talked to young girls as young as nine years old. Nine. That were raped multiple times by members of the men. of the cartel as to pay for passage to come into the United States when you get on your knees and you talk to nine-year-old little girl and everything you look in her eyes and everything
Starting point is 00:14:00 in her is dead her life is ruined forever it's just you just your heart breaks because she will never be the same that little girl should be playing with dolls and having a time of her life but she'll never be the same because she had grown men crawling on her, taking everything innocent pure from her. I've stood him back for tractor trailer when 19 dead aliens that died baked to death, including a five-year-old little boy that baked to death and begged his father not to let him die. The other witnesses said he begged his dad. I don't want to die. I want to see mommy.
Starting point is 00:14:35 That little old five-year-old was getting baked to death and back to that tractor-trailer knowing he was dying. And when I went to that crime scene, I had a five-year-old. year old son at the time. That little boy is wearing the same underwear my little boy had. That messed me up for a while. Fortunately, we put all those 14 scumbags in prison, got every one of them. But things like that, running operation in Ice Storm in Phoenix, Arizona, were smuggling organizations, we're smuggling people in, they put them in a stash house, other smuggling organizations will go there armed and rip them off. It's like ripping off a dope load because these aliens worth more than dope.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So they were ripping them off. Then when they take control of them, they call the relative up and say, okay, we got your brother here, you lost $20,000. And the relatives say, wait a minute, we agreed on $10,000. Well, it's $20,000 now, you won't pay it, we kill them. And they did. Bodies were piling up. And they were actually calling relatives up saying,
Starting point is 00:15:35 if you don't pay the fee, we're going to torture. And they would put them on the phone, and the relative would listen to this person being tortured to death. So a lot of things I can go on for the next two hours things I've seen in my career. So look, I love kids. It broke my heart and a lot of things I've seen. And that's why I came back second time for President Trump. I want to see what I could do to not only secure the border.
Starting point is 00:15:58 People don't understand when you secure the border, you save thousands of lives. Under President Biden with historic mass illegal immigration, there's the most inhumane thing you can do. 31% of women that make that journey get raped. 31% admit it. So if 31% admit it, how many actually got raped? Children were getting sexually assaulted. Children were dying.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Under Biden, over 4,000 aliens died making that journey. An historic record. A quarter million Americans died from fat and all overdose that came across that border. An historic record. A historic record of national security cases. President Trump, Trump 45, we had a total of 14 people on terrorist watch that arrested on the southern border.
Starting point is 00:16:41 under Joe Biden over 400. So every day in that four years, the president was right. I was pissed off for four years. Every day I woke up. And I said, and I was sanctified how many children died last night? How many Americans died last night? How many young girls got raped last night? How many billions of the dollars to the cartel made?
Starting point is 00:17:01 For four years I woke up pissed off, so when I got an offer to come back, I can come back. But what drives me is the things I've seen in my career. And I wish the people who hate the people who hate the people. board of children hate ICE, members of Congress and the Democrat side of the House, I wish they wore my shoes for 40 years, because they'd have a different opinion on the patriots of the Border Patrol. The men and women, the Border Patrol, men and women of ICE, I'd love them. They're the finest young men and women this country has, because they put themselves a harm to their own way together.
Starting point is 00:17:31 By all my el-Aid and better, I think about when I was a Border Patrol agent, no, 3 o'clock in the morning, you got a board of an agent standing on a dirt trail in the middle of nowhere. because the sensor just went off. Okay, is that just a little illegal handling and look for of a better life? Or is a heavily armed drug smuggler? They don't know, but they're going to stand there and take it on. While we're sleeping our bed safe at night,
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'll be sleeping at 3 a.m. Unless the president calls me, because they say, wake me up a lot. Well, at 3 a.m., while you're sleeping, there's a green uniform standing on a dirt trail someplace protecting this nation. Men and wind are ice. They strap a gun to the hip every day
Starting point is 00:18:15 and wear a cabal our best, they'll go after illegal aliens, criminal illegal aliens, national security threats, at the same time being called Nazis and races by members of Congress and mayors and governors. It's disgusting. But you know what? They keep getting up every day and doing the job. So God bless them. Have you ever seen the movie Sicario? Yes, I have. Is it real? Is it like that? Realistically real. I just, when I watch that movie, whoever wrote that movie and
Starting point is 00:18:52 produce that movie, did an excellent job. Because what you were describing reminds me of scenes from the movie in some of the brutality and evil. The ride that steals the spotlight every time it hits the road, that's the Volkswagen Tiguan. Its sleek exterior makes a first impression you can't ignore. Step inside to find available full leather seats and wood accents. Under the hood, the available 201 turbocharged horsepower power engine gives a
Starting point is 00:19:22 a funded drive etch the refined tiguan you deserve more style visit vw.ca to learn more s uvw german engineered for all criminal cartels in mexico they don't care about these people it's money and if one um many cases of an alien got sick in that group and they were smuggling if he got sick they left him to die they're not calling 911 they're not trying to help him Look, there was an instance on this, there were many instances, but one time it was down the southern border, a smuggler is bringing some illegal aliens in, a family in the boat, in the boat across the river. Border Patrol starts approaching them. Smuggler didn't want to be arrested, so what does he do? He throws them into the river, people that can't swim, and toddlers.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And they died, drowning, because that smuggler says, I don't want to be arrested, I'll throw this two years. year old, two year old, in the river that can't swim. Some of these people are from African nations never swam in their life. Or some, you know, some of these Asian countries, they know how to swim. And they throw them in the river, knowing that the board patrol, the men who are going to hop in the water with 60, 70 pounds of gear on to do what they can to save life. You know, Texas had a National Guard, National Guardsman here to die. He drowned, jumping into rivers save an alien.
Starting point is 00:20:47 That's something the car tells you never do. I hear they're making a Sicario too. I hope that they cast Tom Homan. I don't know if they will, but I hope that they do. What is... Now I'm just curious, because I'm so glad that I asked that question about your personal experience. Last personal question I'll ask you.
Starting point is 00:21:05 What is your relationship with God? Because you see so much evil, and you quite literally battle some of the darkest evil that can exist in a huge. humanity on a day-to-day basis and not only that you actually you see it most people don't see it you see it no no I do and look you know I honestly in this it's God is my witness every night I go to bed I pray for the safety of the men and
Starting point is 00:21:36 wind of ice in the board trail but I also pray for the people we're looking for and the people were saving even the people that we go to the streets and look for illegal aliens I want them to be sent home I'm in the expert business and I love it. But I don't want to see anybody die. So I pray for everybody every night. But right now, I'm in a little trouble. I'm a Catholic. I'm a Catholic. I'm a little trouble right now because I call it out the Pope because they want to weigh in. And him and three cardinals weighed in the other day about how cruel ICE is and how we shouldn't have shut the border down. Well, as a lifelong Catholic, baptized, First Communion, confirmation, I love the Catholic
Starting point is 00:22:15 church. But you know what? They're wrong. border saves lives and get this if you go to the Vatican and jump their wall the penalty is about three times it is here but we're not allowed to secure our border then they want to bad you know attack the men and women of ice because they're listening to the fake stories right I've been up on Capitol Hill we stopped about two weeks ago because I got sick of going up and the president got tired of negotiating on reopening DHS and you know what they okay you guys need to stay have sense of locations churches
Starting point is 00:22:52 schools, hospitals. I said, first of all, we do. But there is no sanctuary for a national security threat or significant public safety threat. There's no sanctuary here. And we'll go, we got to go. I said, but name one instance, please, name one instant when we went into a church to arrest somebody. Give me one. Give me one. We went into an elementary school to arrest a child. Give me one. Give me one time we went to a hospital arrest somebody. This is a false media. This is the media lying to the American people trying to vilify ICE. The only people that violated the sanctity of the church was Don Lemon and his group. They're the only ones to violate a search.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And that's why there's so much rhetoric. And that's why the American people don't understand what ICE really does, because there's so much false information. And I made a challenge. Give me one case. We arrested somebody in the church or hospital. So there is fear in the immigrant community. Most of that fear is being driven by the left
Starting point is 00:23:50 that want to vilify the band and win of vice. And for any member of Congress to go on TV or testify and use the words Nazi, racist, white nationalist, you know, secret police, if we're the racist for enforcing the law, what's that make them? They wrote it. We're not making this stuff up. So, you know what, we'll keep fighting them. We'll win the message. President Trump wins every day.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Is this your invitation to the Pope for a ride-along with ICE? Yes. And I said that. And I said I will sit down and talk to them because they're talking about something they don't understand. Again, I'll explain to what happened to Biden administration. An open board is the most inhumane thinking can do. Because when you make a promise to the world like Biden and Majorcas did, you can enter
Starting point is 00:24:40 your country illegally, it's a crime, don't worry about it. We're going to release you within 24 hours. We're going to give you an airline ticket, an air ticket, to the city of York City. your choice, we're going to put you in a hotel room at $500 a night. We're going to give you three meals a day. And if you wait long enough for like four months, we're going to give you work authorization, which is a real reason you came here. You're not escaping fear.
Starting point is 00:25:03 You're not asylum, really asylum seeker. When you make that promise to the whole world, the most vulnerable people will give their life savings to the cartels make that dangerous journey. And that's why I had over 4,000 migrant deaths. The most humane thing you can do is secure the border. President Trump has illegal migration down 96.7%, 97%. When 97% less people are coming, how many women aren't being raped? How many children aren't dying?
Starting point is 00:25:31 How many pounds of fentanyl is not getting into kill Americans? How many no inspector terrorists aren't making into the United States? How many billions of dollars the cartels not making? President Trump is a remarkable leader for this nation. I've worked for six presidents, Trump, with Ronald Reagan. Every president I worked for thought border security was somewhat important. No one did more impressing Trump. His success is unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And because of that, we have a most secure, safe nation. Everybody sees this and thinks it's immoral. Nobody, I think that the last election was frankly lost on this issue, and that's what everybody says in the exit polls. Nobody liked the open border. Everybody saw it as inhumane. It is indefensible. It is indefensible. in defense bowl. If you're a Christian, if you can read Deuteronomy.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Deuteronomy says, don't allow your land to be overtaken by the foreigner. They will become your master and you will be their slave. So if you wish to look to the Bible, I know we're at a Christian college here, there it is. What should happen to these? I think that's one thing that people are grasping for is what should happen to Mayorkas? What should happen to the Biden administration? These people, they facilitated this. Should they be charged with crimes?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yes, it would be held accountable. I mean, what they did, I mean, here the other day, I watched Congress a couple weeks ago, we're going to prosecute Miller, Holman, Nome, we're going to prosecute all you guys what you've done. Really? What have we done? Other than the forced laws you wrote. Meanwhile, Alejandro Mallorca stood under oath during testimony of Congress.
Starting point is 00:27:20 How many times, it said the board is secure? He lied under oath. Was he held accountable? No, what they did was treasonous. They created the most significant national security failure in the history of this nation was allowed as millions of people across this border. And what scares me the most is scare you the most. Over 2 million known got away.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Two million people that were caught on video drone traffic or central traffic entered the country and got away. Because the border patrol was so overwhelmed that humanitarian crisis, an average of 70% of agents were off the line. Some days, here in Texas, Eagle Pass, El Paso, there was weeks where there wasn't a single Borbichot uniform in the sector on the line. Because they're dealing with the overcrowding, changing diapers, making baby form of taking care of this humanitarian crisis. Why do 2 million people pay more to get away? Because you pay the cartel a certain amount of money to get to the border.
Starting point is 00:28:21 See a green uniform, turn yourself in, get released, get flown to the city of the choice, all that. Why did 2 million people pay more not to take advantage of the free giveaways? Why? Because they didn't want to be vetted. They didn't want to be fingerprinted. Either because they're gang members, they're criminals, they're smuggling and fat and all, or they're from a country that sponsors terror. That was the biggest national security failure this nation's ever seen,
Starting point is 00:28:46 and they need to be held accountable. Because Tulsa Gabbard said it, the intelligence community said it. We know there are people here. We know where some are. We know where some are. So I pray every day something terrible doesn't happen. But I'm glad President Trump's in the Oval Office
Starting point is 00:29:07 if something does happen. But what they did wasn't mismanagement. It wasn't incompetence. It was by design. They knew exactly what we were doing. Let me tell you why. Because under Barack Obama, they gave me a word for removing
Starting point is 00:29:22 almost half a million of the layings, Right? Alejandro Mallorcas was a deputy secretary at the time. Joe Biden was the vice president. We had a surge at the border under Obama. We shut it down. How do we do that? We detained everybody. We built family residential centers to hold families.
Starting point is 00:29:44 We made him see a judge. 90% lost their hearings. We set home. The numbers tanked. So they know how we fix it. Don't release them. Make them see a judge, remove them. So now that Alejandro Marcos,
Starting point is 00:29:56 Carl Kish is the secretary, Joe Biden's the president, what do they do? They don't detain them. They don't make see a judge, and they handcuff ICE or they can't deport people. They did a complete opposite where they know worked when they were vice president and deputy secretary. This wasn't mismanaging. This is on purpose. They thought they see a future political benefit on bringing millions of people, illegal aliens, put them in sanctuary cities, and he also returned the Trump's census rule, hoping they'd be counted the next census
Starting point is 00:30:27 which results in what? More seats and house for the dams. Plus they thought they're going to be future Democratic voters. They sold this country out for future political power. In my mind, in my opinion, that's treasonous. We're going to jump to Q&A from the audience in just a minute,
Starting point is 00:30:51 but I have just a few quick follow-ups because I just can't help myself. You did get an award from Barack Obama. It's a real photo. It's not AI. There's that photo of you getting that award. right what the hell happened that guy because he was like hey great great job doing all the deportations and then suddenly it's like well let's like use all the criminal aliens to rig the elections in Virginia I mean you saw that last night
Starting point is 00:31:16 right that I live in Virginia all the murders in Fairfax County I think it's something like 80% of the murders in Fairfax County are illegals they pump that state full of illegals there's no doubt that on that the way that mail and balloting works that a ton of illegals voted in Virginia in order to wreck the state last night and that's you're saying that's the goal is that correct yeah I live in Virginia I was pretty upset over that thank God a district court judges is holding that now and I think it once it gets to our course they'll uphold that what they did I think it's pure gerrymandering and you know almost half the state it's a pretty
Starting point is 00:31:55 purple state half the state's Republican red they got no representation now Well, they lost 90% of it, right? It just isn't right. But what that administration did was by design. And I find out hard to believe that any president, any secretary, secretary of homeland security will sell this nation's security up. It's just, it's just, it's criminal. Charge me, Ocas with the treason?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Right. Last question. And then we'll open it up to the audience. Two and a half weeks ago, I sat down with the vice. President. He was talking about fraud. He just finished up his first roundtable meeting about fraud and how to attack it with the entire department, with all the department heads. It was very impressive. Of course, everybody's in favor of this. And I asked about the Somali daycare fraud. And he just straight up jumped right in and said, Stephen Miller's upstairs
Starting point is 00:32:55 and he has proof that Ilhan Omar lied on our immigration forms. We have that pay We know she did this and now we're looking for how to take action. Can you fill us in? Do you know what's going to happen? Is the Trump administration going to go there? The floor is yours. The whole file is being reviewed. A lot of smart people are on it.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Stay tuned. Could you color for us what of the elucidated and many crimes there are that they could be? that it could be because there's like a lot of potential things that could have been there. I can't get ahead of the investigation, but I know that some of this, I know people, they're involved in the review and they're really smart people. And it's in good hands. All right. It's in good hands. Okay, we got the Allstate endorsement from Tom Holman. And a round of applause. We're going to your questions. Here we go. That was inspiring, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's amazing. Hi, my question is for Tom Homan. How is your role different under the Trump administration versus with the Obama administration? The first four years of Obama administration, it was pretty much the same. The second four years is when he turned 180 degrees and stopped us from doing anything. In Obama, I ran enforcement removal operations, which is third in command ICE. so I was in charge of immigration enforcement. Under President Trump, I'm the border czar.
Starting point is 00:34:48 So my main responsibility is a border, plus oversee the deportation and find these kids. So I got a little bit different job now, but working for President Trump, I work for the greatest president of my lifetime. That's the difference. And President Trump, let's bend and women of law enforcement do their job. Thank you. Hi, how's it going? My question is also for Mr. Humman. Hi, how's it going?
Starting point is 00:35:18 I'm from Fischgo, Texas. And we are experiencing a severe abuse of the H-1V visa program. So what is being done to address the to address this that's not in my wheelhouse I can tell you that I there are people at the White House policy legislative affairs working with members of Congress on addressing it there's no answer yet there's people looking that what what should be limited what should be expanded I don't want to get ahead of the White House announcement on that but it's being worked on as we speak I know because I was up on
Starting point is 00:36:08 hill last week and I met some folks that are working on it I I gave them my opinions and we'll see where it goes from there. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, my question is for Mr. Holman. I'm curious about how your security during this administration, how are you going to impact it long term? How are the changes in the immigration enforcement you're doing right now going to affect us in the long run? And how could the next administration kind of reinforce that and continue that?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Well, having the most secure border in history of the nation gives us strong national security. Because now we know who's coming in, what's coming on, where it's coming in, why it's coming in. Right? Under the last administration, the border was wide open, so we don't know what came in or who came in. Like I said, 2 million gotaways. So we need to maintain the secure border. That's why I'm working really hard right now with Rodney Scott, has a board with Joe along with Mark Wayne Mullen, to making sure we build the infrastructure that's going to last for decades. I look today since President Trump's been in the Oval Office, we've already put over 75 miles wall up.
Starting point is 00:37:13 by the time he leaves office, we'll have 1,416 miles of wall. And that's going to make the border even safer. And let me tell you, a wall that's going to last for decades. And the wall isn't just for, you know, security and slowing illegal immigration. Walls save lives.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And let me explain that. The most vulnerable people that come across that border are women and children. They can't get over that wall, which means they go to a place where there's not a wall. and what's waiting on them. Men and women of the board patrols going to take care of those humanitarian needs right away. So the wall saves lives. So by the time President Trump needs office, that's a lot of wall. Also we've just hired, we're in the process hiring. We
Starting point is 00:37:58 got them on board yet 10,000 new deportation officers. So we'll have a stronger workforce that's going to be out there enforcing immigration law every day. Finally, we're building detention capacity that we never had before. You know, the most we have under Trump 45 is about 50 55,000 people in detention. We're building 100,000 beds. So there's not going to be any more skews. We don't have the bed space. We'll have plenty of bed space.
Starting point is 00:38:25 If we turn those beds around every 30 days, 100,000, find 30. We'll get to the numbers that American people want us to get it to on deportations, no problem. Thank you, sir. And thank you for visiting Baylor. You got it. I had a question for Mr. Holman. My question is, is there any legislation? legislation in place right now that would survive the next Democratic president and the office is making an executive order
Starting point is 00:38:53 canceling all the work that has been done right now? That's a great question. That is a great question. That's my concern. If Congress doesn't get off her ass and pass legislation, next president's coming on and do everything we did. Except, you know, we're going, can't, you know, the wall be there and the beds be there, but they can hamstring ice. and you know start accepting hundreds of thousand frauds and asylum claims. Congress needs to legislate and put this in the law. So do I have a high hopes of that? Not right now.
Starting point is 00:39:30 You know, elections matter. We had H.R. too, which is a great bill. Passed the House. Senate wouldn't even put on the floor. And that's where the American people need to stand up and start raising hell. Secure border should be a nonpartisan issue. because the things I just talked about, the number of deaths, the number of sexual assault, everybody should agree you can't have strong national security if you don't have secure borders.
Starting point is 00:39:57 But it is not. The left have lost their minds. So my fear is that they get back in control, they'll just issue new executive orders and do away a lot of stuff. So please, call your local congressman, your senator. Don't get off their ass. and pass some laws that's going to secure this nation and protect this nation from foreign invaders. Thank you so much. Do you mind if I ask just a very quick follow-up to his question about naturalization?
Starting point is 00:40:31 James Carville was out this week. I don't know if anybody saw this saying when Democrats get power, we are going to open that border wide up and we're going to naturalize 60 million new Americans as quickly as possible. Is there that executive power? Look, they approved during the Biden ministries. They wanted to open borders, they'll do it. You're scaring hell out of me. I hope not.
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Starting point is 00:41:19 Saving those children is how we all go home. from binge all episodes exclusively on Paramount plus but i don't put anything past them look you got members of congress right now comparing ice to the nazis which has increased threats against ice 8 000 percent have they stopped no they're continuing i mean i met when i hill last time i met him the hell they said well we need to take the mask off he says that's a non-starter because you want us take the mask off we're wearing masks to protect could they be in docks now with the agents being or spouses and children being docks, they're wearing it for protection. So if you want the mask off, why don't you stop the hateful rhetoric that has increased threats up to 8,000 percent?
Starting point is 00:42:03 I mean, you're sitting here say, take mask off and I'll see you on CNN tonight calling ICE Nazis, which raises the threat level. So, you know, they lost their minds. So I don't know what they're going to do, Benny. I mean, it's just elections matter. So personally, I think the next president of the United States is. currently in the administration. If they were real Nazis, they'd be funded by the SPLC.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I read that story today. Come on, come on. That was airplane reading. Got them. Well, they say I'm on, they, Southern Florida Law Center classified me as racist, too. Whatever. What they don't understand, what the rest of them don't understand. I don't give a shit what people think of me.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Because a good way to go through life if you if you if you let them affect you like that they win So I can lay my head of my pillow every night know I'm doing everything can to secure this nation to save lives The board patrol and I saved so many lives and what president Trump I just told you with illegal grace down 97% how many lives are being saved so I'm proud of what I'm doing I'm gonna keep doing it and they can attack me all they want I'm old I get tired But when I get up in the morning, read a hip piece, it's like throwing gas on my fire. It makes me ready, okay, let's go. Where do they go? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Continuing that topic of hateful rhetoric, and I'll let you speak for yourself, Benny. But the comment you made maybe 25 minutes ago about liberal women being pigs and cows, as a seminary student here, I've given my life in preparation to prepare to preach the gospel to the world to America and as someone from Washington a very liberal place for all its wards to Washington but quite beautiful yes yes I can't wait to be back this summer near Mount Rainier I wonder that place is gorgeous are you from Seattle I'm about an hour south man what's having to Seattle man that used me one of the best cities in America sure yeah but I wonder how you see your faith obviously scripture
Starting point is 00:44:24 us that we will be have to prepare for every single word we say to give an account right how do you when you make comments like that how do you envision that conversation going with the lord i feel like and i totally get it like i feel like i feel like it's critical to understand a couple things here one uh i am a sinner i am not god god is god god sent his son jesus Christ because I am a sinner and because I make mistakes and because I need forgiveness. I also think that jokes are funny and that comedy should be legal. And if that offends you, well, I don't know, be offended. There are some things that many people would find offensive in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I think it was Paul who said once, if you're going to argue so much over circumcision, then you should go the whole way and castrate yourselves. Right? Just cut it all off. And that's like kind of blunt, right? Like that's kind of, whoa, like that's kind of, maybe it's a joke. Probably is, I don't think he literally meant that.
Starting point is 00:45:37 But there are obviously shades, and there's some pretty blunt truths in the Bible. And I think the point that I was ultimately trying to make, even though maybe it might not be perfect, is this, that there's a reason why the fertility charts for conservatives are going up like this, because our women look like women, and our men have testosterone still, and our men behave like men, and we honor God in the way that we lead our lives. And what is that exactly? What is the first commandment of God to man?
Starting point is 00:46:13 The first thing, your seminary student, what is it? The first thing that God said is go make babies. babies. It's the first thing he said. And to attend my garden to like make it peaceful, to ensure that like the garden is orderly. And so conservatives follow in that nature. And I think that it's critically important. Like what I see in the butchery of children, trans ideology that in part took Charlie from us, is frankly demonic. It is antithetical. It is antithetical. to God, God maketh you man and woman. And I think that the ability for conservatives to not only own that, but also to own God's commandments for us to go and be fruitful and multiply,
Starting point is 00:47:04 is critically important. And to be able to do that, I think that being attractive is an important thing. I'm not a looks-matser, all right? I'm sure convicular will be at the next turning point event. But, you know, I guess if you're looking for where I'm rooted, if I'm going to make a Dylan Mulvaney joke right up here, that's kind of the root of it, right? And God designed women a specific way and men a specific way, and it's for sexual attraction. And so that's kind of where that comes from. I don't know. Maybe that would be the explanation I'd give, right? Maybe it was just a naughty joke.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I'm not sure. But humor is still legal in this country. And I'm cool with it. But thank you for your question. Hello, Mr. Tom Holman. you. First off, thank you so much for what you've done for this country in securing our border. My question specifically about the contrast between what happened under Biden, we saw 10 million illegals coming into this country right around 12,000 a day, and then under your leadership,
Starting point is 00:48:10 the border's been closed, which has been great, but we've seen mass deportations of around 1,000 people a day. And with midterms coming up and the rhetoric ramping down from our administration, I just want to know, and I'm curious, just like a bunch of us, what we can expect before mid-terms from the administration. We're going to keep doing our job. And actually, the numbers are running around $1,700 a day. Today's number was like $1,600. We broke 2,000, maybe a dozen times the past year.
Starting point is 00:48:46 We need to do more. We're going to keep doing it. I mean, President Trump's been clear that we have. We should prioritize public state to threats and national security threats. I looked at the numbers today, the numbers about right now in detention, about 64% are criminals, and about 60, 40, about 40 or non-criminal. We're going to keep enforcing immigration law against everybody's in the country illegally. But as the president said, I work for the president.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So I work with the framework he sets. He says, I want you prioritize public safety threats and national security threats, that's what we're doing. But we're still enforcing immigration law gets other. because we have to. Because the message we can't send to the whole world is enter the country illegal is a crime, but don't worry about it. Just don't commit another crime and no one's looking for you. We can't send that message. So we need to enforce the immigration law against all those in the country illegally to send a strong message. Because we're sending that message, that's one the reason we have the most secure border in the history of the nation, because we send a message
Starting point is 00:49:45 to the whole world. There's no free rider anymore. If you're in the country illegally, we're looking for you. And we're going to arrest you and deport you. And I was there to Bill Marshall a couple months ago, and we had to go back and forth quite a bit. So it was amazing. He says, but look, some of these people have been there, you know, 15, 20 years, should they be deported? I said, well, a lot of them have due process, a great tech. We got one and a half million people who had due process been ordered removed by a federal judge and became fugitives. So we let them stay because we're good at hiding out?
Starting point is 00:50:18 Because there are millions of people standing in line every day. taking her tests, doing their background investigation, paying her fees to be part of the greatest nation on earth. They're sitting in the back of the bus. The asylum fraud and Joe Biden know hundreds of thousands made fraudulent asylum claims. Well, there are people in the world that really do need their protection, because they really are escaping fear and persecution from the home country because of race, religion, political affiliation.
Starting point is 00:50:46 They're sitting in the back of the bus. We got to enforce the immigration laws of this country, because that gives us a a secure nation that tells the world we're serious about our immigration policies and it helps secure the border which just makes national security stronger so I guess that's a long answered your question we're not going to stop we're going to keep moving forward President Trump was voted in the Oval Office number one issue secure the border and enforce immigration law and we're going to keep doing it every day much I hope you deliver good afternoon my question is for Benny earlier yeah
Starting point is 00:51:28 Oh no, another theology student. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, here we go. Don't worry, don't worry. Earlier, you spoke about a speech that Vivek Ramoswamy gave, and he gave kind of the explanation of, you know, you could go to China, you'll never be Chinese, you could go to Italy, you'll never be Italian. You could express disagreement with that when it comes to being American.
Starting point is 00:51:47 What are the specific factors that you think makes someone an American? And then secondarily, why would excluding folks who have talent or who could come add to the American project be more pro-American than keeping the population we have now. Yeah, totally. So I'm not going to talk an individual basis, right? What I'm going to talk about is like the big picture of what he posted and what his idea was, right? So the idea goes like this, the structure of his argument goes like this. You can't go to France and call yourself French.
Starting point is 00:52:15 You can't go to Germany and call yourself German. You can't go to Japan and you'll never be Japanese. And if you go to China, it doesn't matter, you'll never be Chinese. But you can come to America. In fact, everyone can come to America. All nine billion people on Earth can all be American, including the cannibals on North Sentinel Island, right? An uncontacted tribe. They can be America.
Starting point is 00:52:34 You have your cannibal neighbors. It'll be a great sitcom on ABC. No. I mean, I fundamentally reject that, right, for a couple of reasons. And I'm going to start here on like, well, okay, what is an American? And this is hopefully a documentary I get to make with Matt Walsh one of these days. I'd love to... What is an American?
Starting point is 00:52:55 Exactly, right? America, up until the last 200 years, was founded, created, built, all of the infrastructure, all of the culture, Christian, European. That was plus 90% of all immigration to America. That was the original founding, that was the original founders and how they structured our nation. The Bible and calls to God and calls to a Christian God are throughout. John Adams says that we have a nation holy for a moral and religious people and none other. And he wasn't talking about Islam when he was talking about that. He was talking about Christiandom. He was talking about different shades of Christian, though, which is something that is why the country was founded,
Starting point is 00:53:43 because there were various levels of persecution with the Anglican Church, for instance. And Catholics. You guys had it bad. now, a merry old England. So you come here. But to not acknowledge that as the foundational reason why this country isn't China or isn't Japan, why this country is so great, I think is morally dishonest at best, or, you know, a septifuge at worst, just sort of like cut out and ignore that. So I think at first it's critical to acknowledge what built America, who built America exactly. Only did those downings.
Starting point is 00:54:19 demographics by the way even begin to change in like the 1970s all right only did the with the getting rid of Hartzeller Act but anyway I think that's a fundamental problem with that argument is the skipping over of who built America in the first place you know there was nobody named Zorhan Mondami that fought in the Civil War okay but then it gets the bigger deeper and more important question that I that I find so offensive why can't we have a protected culture. Like what is it about America that means like you can't defend or protect what is American? Why is it why is it so silly to say that if you move to
Starting point is 00:55:07 China you're not Chinese but if somebody from China moves here they're suddenly an American? What is it about our culture where we can be like constantly disrespected and you can constantly use this place and this land and not a that we have a specific culture, that we have a specific people, an honored heritage, and that we're great for a reason. I feel like that's disrespectful, frankly, to how America was founded and to what this country is. And honestly, I totally disregard and disavow the idea that everybody on Earth, all 9 billion people on Earth, can be Americans. Our founders would do that as well, by the way, if you read their writings.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Thomas Jefferson would have deported more people than Tom Homan. No way, doing it. But that's what sort of got my eye up, is that I'm like, I'm sick of people not acting like Americans, and people who have been here since the Mayflower and the culture that's been built here, like that they don't deserve defenders. They do. Our culture is great. Our culture, I would argue, is exceptional. I would argue that there's a lot of world views, for instance, Sharia law,
Starting point is 00:56:15 that is wholly and totally incompatible with what we're not. with Western civilization and our culture. And we should be extremely cautious about turning America that has a cohesive, that has a cohesive, joined culture together, that has a shared culture, into just a UN refugee camp, with a bunch of atomized people from all over the world that speak different languages, have different traditions,
Starting point is 00:56:41 and share nothing together. If there's a fire on your block, you need to be able to speak the language of your neighbors neighbors in order to put it out together as a community. You have to. If a child's in danger, you need to be able to speak the language of the people that you live next to and share some level of compassion or tradition for protecting children that we believe in here in this country because of how we were founded. Why? Because we had Western civilized Christian ideals that founded this nation. So to totally disregard that and separate that and to say just like anyone and anything
Starting point is 00:57:13 can become an American, I reject it outright. I think, frankly, that's disrespectful. And I think that's how you got into this, into the horrible situation that we find ourselves in right now today, where you have less and less societal trust. Nobody wants to live in a zero-trust society. You have to have things in common. You must have things in common language, a common belief in God, a common belief in what society is meant to do for each other, a common belief that child brides is immoral, that cousin marriages is immoral. These are things that are practiced all throughout the world. With great regular, that having multiple wives is immoral.
Starting point is 00:57:49 These are normal practices all throughout, many lands. And quite frankly, we're bringing those lands here. And so this is the final thing I'd leave you with. And it's the final thing that always shuts people up. Not like I'm trying to shut you up, but when they come to me with this globalist argument, sorry for the long answer, but would you, if Somalia, like meaning you broke off Somalia from Africa
Starting point is 00:58:10 and you attached it, right, to Florida, let's say Corpus Christi, maybe it wouldn't be much different. But you attached it here. Would you want to go visit? Like would that be a place where you would like go vacation? Would you want to go to Mogadishu? Like would this be like a fun place for you to go with all the secretarian violence and, you know, rapes? Assuming those people meet the criteria that you suggested, right?
Starting point is 00:58:42 That they believe in our values, they kind of ascribe to those things. But they don't. They don't. Somalia has the highest coefficient. for cousin marriages in the world. That's according to the UN. I agree with what you're saying. And also child brides is totally accepted in Somalia because that's how you actually join clans together, right,
Starting point is 00:58:59 or keep your clans strong. It is when the president says it's a country without any laws, without any police, he's right. And so, I mean, if you could look at some of the data in Somalia, you'd say, no, I don't want to actually visit that. And I wish we would apply that rule to who we led into this country. If you wouldn't like the country that they built, built where they're from, why would we want to bring that culture here? There are cultures
Starting point is 00:59:22 that are incompatible with Western civilization as a Christian. That doesn't mean I think they're less than human. As many jokes that I make, you know, I'm getting in trouble with a theologian, you're going to get in trouble with the Pope. Jeez, man, we are, we got a tough role tonight. But that doesn't mean that I have to let them come here and be my master in the land that my forefathers built. Cool. Thank you. It's okay to be proud to be in America. It's okay to want America to stay America. It really is.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Brandon Gill just said this on my show. It's okay to say, America isn't hearing the Muslim call to prayer, wake me up every morning. America isn't the caste system in my children's schools. That's not America. It's okay to say that. Sorry for the long answer.
Starting point is 01:00:08 My apologies. But thank you for the question. Mr. Tom Holman, my question is for you. I want to preface the question by saying, I have a lot of respect for you and the dedication and the service that you give in to this country Out of all three speakers, you're the only one I didn't boo for. So there we go My question for you is specifically the administration's response Sorry, Benny, sorry, Ben, that's okay bro. Roast me. That's why we're up here
Starting point is 01:00:38 I booed louder for Ken Paxson if that makes you feel like me then. Well, I'm not running for Senate. I promise I never will So my question is specifically in response to the administration's response to the killing of Alex Pready in Minnesota. So the biggest issue that I have with that, obviously beyond the actual act itself, which we all saw the video, right? There was a protester, you know, upwards to 15 ice agents gathered around him. They disharmed him about five seconds before he was shot and killed.
Starting point is 01:01:12 That's extremely concerning to someone who believes in living. limited government and who believes in civil liberties. And the biggest concern of that was that day, like they didn't even try to investigate what happened, Christy Noem and Stephen Miller put out tweets saying that this guy was a domestic terrorist. I believe it was Stephen Miller who said he was trying to do maximum harm to law enforcement, right?
Starting point is 01:01:38 It reminds me of the quote of the George Orwell quote in 1984, the party told you to project your eyes and ears. We all saw the video. We all saw what happened. And the administration's gut response by top officials was to immediately deny any accountability for what happened. And I understand that he, you know, there's videos of him kicking cars. I understand that. All of that is irrelevant. The man was disarmed. We saw the gun taken off of his body. And then he was subsequently shot by upwards to 15 ice agents around him. And then, rightfully, the president pulled Greg Bovino and put you there, and that made me happy. I believe that, you know, you are a professional, and I respect the work that you do. But is the administration ever going to take accountability? And are those ICE agents that shot and murdered that man ever going to be held accountable?
Starting point is 01:02:34 Okay, so I can't speak for Christine O'm Stephen. I'll speak for myself. After those shootings, I get a phone call from President Trump so that they need to go to Minnesota and fix some things and de-escalate. I didn't ask them to Minnesota. The President sent me there the very next day. I can tell you that the deaths that occurred up there
Starting point is 01:02:57 are tragedies and unfortunate, but they're being investigated. I can assure you the FBI's investigate. Matter of fact, that day, I landed in LA, the 80th shooting, I landed in Atlanta, and I was doing an interview, I think it was CBS News. I didn't know about it. I showed up to the set to do the interview,
Starting point is 01:03:16 and the first thing it did is you put a TV screen in front me, he said, watch this video. And it was the Renee Good video. Says comments. And I says, I'm not going to comment. I says, it needs to be investigated, and we'll hold people that violate law policy accountable. I'm not going to comment on an ongoing investigation.
Starting point is 01:03:37 That's a career cop, you just don't do that. And I said, there's probably 100 cell phone videos, there's probably, you know, ring cameras, there's probably, there's going to be body cam. I said it'd be inappropriate for me to give you my opinion on one video because I don't want to sway any investigation. I want the investigation play out. I can tell you that when I was up there, I met with the U.S. attorney, and I can tell you there's investigation you're ongoing. And I've done this my whole career. if someone violated law, they need to help accountable. And we'll see what plays out.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I'm not involved in internal investigation myself. The FBI has it, along with internal affairs from ICE, and they're running investigation. But I stand by if someone violates the law, they need to help accountable. And we'll see what comes out of the investigation. Thank you. Thank you. Hello.
Starting point is 01:04:38 My question is for Benny. So at Charlie's Memorial, you shared how your faith in Christ became more personal over time. Could you just talk about how that relationship shaped or challenged your faith? And as a young man who looks up to Charlie a lot, what advice would you give on pursuing a godly marriage, building a family, and serving our country just as Charlie always talked about, especially during moments when living that out can be challenging? Yes.
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Starting point is 01:05:57 Maybe tonight. I don't know if you're married or not. If you're married, if you're married is what I'm saying, okay? Charlie is scowling down at me from heaven like tell him he has to be married because that's what he would tell me. When I met Charlie I was an alcoholic. You know, I was like a, I was now, I live in DC. DC is a scumbag place, okay? A ton of scumbags there, dirt bags, you know, all these people. They're masking something. You don't go to DC because you're someone who, you're someone who, could make it in your hometown. You don't go to DC because you have a skill. You go to DC
Starting point is 01:06:30 because you're a degenerate, you're power hungry, and you're a goblin, you're not right. It's why all the theater kids wind up in DC. All these AOCs, you know, like, oh, their little arms. You know, theater kids wind up in DC. And I sort of fell into that culture. With disregard the fact I'm going to DC tomorrow morning. It's a hell. I stay out of DC's. I would speak of these terms of turning point events and Charlie recruited me to come and to run turning point productions. And this was very early in the Trump administration and I said yes. And he witnessed into my life.
Starting point is 01:07:08 And it was like having, it was like having an angel speak to me. And I had a, like I think many people had sort of fallen away from the church, had fallen away from my foundations, foundations. I think that perhaps there's many people in this audience that deal with that, especially when you move out of the house. And instead of judging me and instead of scolding me or instead of, you know, because Charlie was T-total, right? You know, Charlie would, Charlie would order me a beer, right? And and we were at the airport and we were waiting for a flight. And would slowly like witness
Starting point is 01:07:54 to my life and knowing that the power of God is stronger than anything and that any single vice. And the moment that like I got married, Charlie would like text me constantly like, are you going to have kids? Okay, I have kids? You should have kids. You should have kids. Charlie, stay out of my bedroom, all right, okay? You're being such a Republican right now, but like, yeah, but he was right, actually. What I need, because there's nothing worse. I think if there's any fathers in the room, fathers down here, is it the worst thing on earth is having a newborn and a hangover. at the same time. That is the single worst experience in life. You actually quit drinking.
Starting point is 01:08:30 You can't do both. You cut out, if you are a moral person, if you have a shred of it, having that child seeing, witnessing that angel being given to you for a by God, which is what happens when you hold your newborn baby, I don't cry, I'm not a crier, I don't cry. You can play me any movie, I don't cry. I sobbed at the birth of all four of my children.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And I hope to have five, I hope to have six, I have ten more children, quite honestly. Because it's like witnessing the promise of God. It's like witnessing God giving you an angel, and it centers your life, and it connects you. And Charlie was so wise on this, and he saw it clearly. He lived it out in his own life, being a father. But this is what truly saved me. I mean, truly.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Now I am a regular churchgoer. I bring my children to Sunday school. I am so proud of my faith. I never talked about my faith. I'm not saying I was ashamed of it, but was never part of my life. And it was Charlie Christ centering me. Now, I got to see it up close. But what Charlie did with his maybe 25 million social media following,
Starting point is 01:09:35 with his TikTok, with his massive audiences, he was preaching that to millions of young men. And when I show you those graphs of young men rejoining the church, if I show you a chart right now from Gallup, which is the most accurate pollster in America, that says the number one priority for young men who voted for Donald Trump, is get married and start a family. That's the legacy of Charlie Kirk. That's Charlie Kirk living today
Starting point is 01:10:01 and saving this nation with his work. That's why he's a true Christian martyr. I just got to experience it firsthand. Final thing I'll say on this because it's such a personal question and thank you for asking is there will never be a greater thing that you will do in your life. There's all these, there's Andrew Tate and there's all these people, looks maxers, I don't know, whatever, you know, whatever, you know, whatever the new trend is it's always about getting your rocks off never getting married like disrespecting women disrespecting marriage itself and viewing
Starting point is 01:10:35 children as a burden that's how you know it is straight from the pit of hell God's design for your life is to be in that marriage with those children because that will be truly what accelerates you in life you want a 10x it's not buying Bitcoin okay 10xing is having falling in love, having children, and raising those American children on this sweet, dark earth. It is a beautiful experience here in this country. It is something that has driven your ancestors to make this land great, and then they live through you in that experience. It's something that connects you to the great, divine, and the beyond.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And that is the structure of the family. God knew it, and he set it up. It's like he knew what he was doing when he made that unit. It saved many men's lives. I'm just one of them deeply, deeply humbled to have been able to be witnessed to by Charlie like that. But for you, I just humbly and very inarticulately pass on this message that that is the way to accelerate and structure your life.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Please do not be fearful of it. Please do not black pill on these incredible, ordained, divine institutions of marriage and raising children and being a father. Thank you very much. I don't, I don't know if that's the last, the cue card says that that's the last question that we have. I don't know if that's the last one that we want to end on. I guess it's up to the, I guess it's up to the team here. We have two more.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Two more, okay. Hi, this is for Mr. Tom Holman. Thank you very much for coming. So I am legally Canadian. This is kind of on the subject of family, but I've lived here for 99% of my life with my family on my dad's work visa. But until a few years ago, when we finally got our green cards
Starting point is 01:12:44 after over a decade, my own mother couldn't work. And I would not have been able to work when I reached the age of 16 either. I'm looking really for forward to becoming an American citizen in just a few more years, but what would you say to people who live in America, who are legal immigrants, who are working hard and really want to become American, but have watched for many years illegal immigrants get free handouts? Well, God bless you if you're doing things the right way. I'm proud of you and I'm
Starting point is 01:13:20 proud of your family. The right way, you know, come in illegally, assimilate and be part of the American culture and help make this country greater. That's the goal. For those who cheated the system, I said it earlier. I understand why people want to come to the greatest nation on Earth and have a better life. I don't hate illegal aliens. So this right way and wrong way comes to the greatest nation on Earth
Starting point is 01:13:57 and what they did, they cheated. And people say, well, they've been here 20 years. They cheated. They put themselves in front of the line, and that's not okay. You know, that's why we need to enforce immigration because I said there are millions, and literally millions of people going through the process to be the greatest nation, to be part of the greatest nation on earth. You know, a true story, I was in New York City and I was in a car, and the guy recognized
Starting point is 01:14:22 me. He was from an African nation. And he just became a U.S. citizen. He said, I came over here as a student, got a green card, become a U.S. citizen. He was, I'm trying to get my family, my wife and three sons over here. And it's a long, drawn-out process. He goes, I've been at it for a couple of years. And I watched this under Biden administration,
Starting point is 01:14:39 I'm calling it's working Fox News, raising hell about Biden administration. He says, I see these thousands of people come to the border of day being released. I can't work off. Families are being reunited over here illegally. He goes, and some days I wake up and say, why don't I do that? And my wife and kids can be here now. He goes, but you know what stops me from doing it? I love America.
Starting point is 01:15:00 That's why I became a U.S. citizen. I want my family do things in a legal way. So what I say to you is first of all, God bless you for doing things the right way. Welcome to the greatest nation on earth. And when you become a U.S. citizen, give me an invite. I love to be the one to swear you in. Heartwarming. That was beautiful.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Hi, Benny. Hi, Tom. Thank you both for being here. My name is Nikki Rudd, and my question is for Benny. Charlie Kirk was venomantly opposed to the war with Iran. In fact, he said that it would be a catastrophic mistake. the vast majority of Gen Z is also opposed to the war with Iran. In 1996, the Clean Break Report was issued on behalf of then-incoming Prime Minister Benjamin
Starting point is 01:15:51 Nanyahu. It listed several different countries which should be destroyed on behalf of the state of Israel. Since then, the American military has assisted in the destruction of every regime listed, except for the Iranian, which we are now at war with. It is clear that the Israeli lobby in America has sought the destruction of the Iranian regime for decades now. Do you believe that the Israel lobby compelled this administration and this military into attacking Iran, and do you believe that Israeli influence is a problem within our government? So I read New York Times article that detailed Benjamin Netanyahu briefing President Trump
Starting point is 01:16:36 in the situation room. And according to our own CIA, and according to Marco Rubio and the experts here in America, Benjamin Netanyahu's... data and intelligence was flawed. And I spoke out very publicly against that. I said, you can't have people giving my president, who I voted for, and I support, and I voted for him three times, and I love Donald Trump, and I want his administration to succeed. You cannot have him getting bad information. That's something that shouldn't be allowed. I caught some hell for that. I don't care. It doesn't matter if it's the president of China or if it's the president of Germany or if it's Benjamin Netanyahu, the president of Israel. We should demand that our president get good and solid information.
Starting point is 01:17:15 American lives are on the line. That was reported out. Now, when it comes to the war in Iran, bro, I wasn't elected president. There are some podcasters that think they were elected president, and they know everything, but I'm humble enough to realize that I'm sitting at like a room temperature IQ at best, right? I went to community college.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I couldn't get into Baylor, right? And the seminary students wouldn't like my jokes anyway. So, I don't pretend to second-guess the president on this. I have been critical, however, on one point. And it's a point that I talk with J.D. Vance about. And it's a point that I know that there's extreme frustration with Gen Z, as you perhaps, no doubt are a member of Gen Z or Gen Alpha, which is that America first needs to be about America. And for that to be true, the pothole on my street where I live and I have, to drive my kids around in Tampa, Florida, is more important. Filling that pothole is more important
Starting point is 01:18:23 than making a new pothole in the Middle East. That, I think, is a very consistent America-first world view. When you win elections, which I can show you exactly what the left plans on doing when they win the next election, that is why I want my side to win, and I have no other options. I beg of the administration, and I will beg tonight, and I constantly beg, the focus must be on domestic policy. Gas prices, grocery prices, home prices. These are the things that win generations, like solving these things, getting these prices under control, or what wins you elections. And so I don't consider myself young anymore. I'm 39 years old, but I do have a young family, I do have young children. They're American children. I have no dual passports.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I have no little, I know, I have no land to flee and run home to, right? There's a lot of Americans who do. I think that's crazy. I will live here. I will die here. I will put my boots in the ground here and dig my heels in for my children. And so I view only the betterment of life in America as a chief priority. And it's something that I implore the administration simply to focus on. I want gas to go back down to a $2 average. That's where it was in January. January 1, gas was $2 average in America. Many places, it was below $2. In Colorado, in Colorado, in Colorado, is nearing 99 cents. There were some stations that were close to 99 cents. That's what I want. I want the what happened to egg prices To happen to all groceries especially steak and beef. Please Texas can you help us out with that
Starting point is 01:20:00 But you can you pretty the administration is proven that they can must make make them they can they can they can put the shoulder into certain commodities. They can help Make them a more affordable for American families single moms dads dads that are trying to make it you know and be a father's tough out there man. It's tough and so So America first means my American children first. So that, yeah. I agree with you that we should be focusing on domestic issues, but we can't do so when we have a foreign lobby that's compelling us into foreign conflicts that we should be no part of. Do you think the Israeli lobby compelled us into this war? Again, I wasn't in the room.
Starting point is 01:20:45 I've been openly critical of what I saw as the best reporting out there, which was a very detailed report of the New York Times that talked about this. and that said that our own intelligence agencies said that there were flaws in the information that was given to the president. I've been openly critical about that. But I wasn't in the room. I fundamentally do not believe that Donald Trump gets pushed around by anybody. And I think he's proven that time and time again in his career and that Trump makes the decisions. And again, I don't know him like the honored member of the administration on stage. I'm not as close President Trump, but you know, you can see in his life that the man, like, takes in the information
Starting point is 01:21:27 and makes the decision. That's why I have advocated for that information to be as good and as airtight, as responsible and as accurate as possible for my president to make successful decisions for my country. Yeah. Yep. That's what we're done. All right. Borders are Tom Homan, everyone. Thank you very much. God bless all of you. You're in trouble with the Pope. powerful to see that man sort of in his humanity, even cried on stage when I asked him about why he does this as something really special, is really neat to be able to connect with Tom afterwards and to talk about his personal faith walk and what they're going to be doing. Here's what Tom told me backstage after this event. He said, you think that the deportations are up now?
Starting point is 01:22:26 And by the way, I mean, they are. I don't care what anybody says. You can actually look at the data here and see what the administration's work on criminal migration. These are ICE arrests, interior deportations, jails and prisons by arrest increases, and voluntary departures from the United States of America. Again, population of foreign-born criminal aliens collapsing and a collapse, a total and complete collapse. in the asylum seekers, which is a complete and total, it's simply fraud. It's just a total fraudulent operation. There's virtually no legitimate asylum seekers.
Starting point is 01:23:10 All of them are parasitic on our body politic. Anyway, it was beautiful to hear Tom Homan talk about these wins, but then to talk about what's going to happen next. What's going to happen next, he says, is we've just doubled the number of agents, gone from 5,000 to 10,000. You think these numbers are good now. Wait until you see what we are about to do. All right.
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Starting point is 01:26:00 Having a closed, secure border, a secure and clean land is a holy operation. It is something that you should want, not because you hate anyone, but because you love the people that are your people. God's very clear about this, and he's also very clear in the Psalms about leaving an inheritance for your children's children. That is what a moral and righteous generation must do. Leave an inheritance for your children's children. Well, America First means my American children, I am going to protect.
Starting point is 01:26:29 First and foremost, it's the moral, unconscious thing. And it's something that I look forward to doing with you as we fight on. Thank you for joining us on this special episode, The Boney Show. May God bless you. We'll march on to victory. We're winning in spite of what some people might say. Kamala Harris would not be a better president of the United States, ladies to show. Thank you.
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