The Benny Show - There Is Going To Be A Revolution in the U.K. Over The Muslim Rape Gang Inquiry Report
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Dark times for Western civilization.
Ladies and gentlemen, you know the way that it goes.
The fourth turning, we certainly are in it, where the strong men have created two good
of times.
Those good times create weak men.
Those weak men create very, very bad times.
We're in the bad times cycle where we need strong men to stand up.
And we have a number of them joining the program today.
So we are locked and loaded Thursday, June 18th, 2026.
Muslim rape gang inquiry report.
I'm going to call it the Muslim rape gang inquiry report.
because that's what was doing the raping.
And we're going to explain very quickly here
exactly why that shouldn't come as a shock to anyone
because you're importing rapists
and you're importing people who commit these crimes
in their home country and they've committed these crimes
for thousands of years with any conquered people.
Why do they do that?
Because they're such monsters?
Well, because their religion permits it
and actually encourages it.
We're going to have that conversation.
Today with Tommy Robinson
It's a complete and total patriotic legend from the UK,
somebody who we are honored to have on the show,
somebody who's the best, frankly, to talk about this.
He'll be joining us in just a moment.
Ron Johnson, ladies and gentlemen, on the show as well,
Joel Pollock and Bo Nickel.
Coming off, an incredible White House fight, UFC,
and, well, a day for champions
and a day for strong men to rise up.
And that is what we're going to do today.
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I want to begin by just talking quickly about something that, you know,
we've been covering and popped up and there's totally Iran,
fatigue. The Iran peace deal was signed yesterday. I want to just call out all of the so-called
influencers that are attacking the president over this. Shut your filthy mouths. If you love another
country more than America, move to that other country. I got an incredible idea for you. If you
love Israel, more than America, move to Israel. If you love Ukraine, more than America,
move to Ukraine. If you love Somalia more than America, move to Somalia. I am so sick of the
passport bros sitting there and lecturing me. I don't have another country's
passport. I'm not a dual citizen. I'm not getting paid by anyone for anything.
You will not find my names on any of these little registers or any of these little forest
sheets. You won't find it. It doesn't exist. Would that be able, some other influencers in the
space? Could you say that about? And it's sickening to me because I'm now seeing the president
being attacked by both sides, right? The side that wanted like a very different piece, the side
that wants bloodthirsty war, and I'm sick of it all.
Let us be at peace.
Peace and prosperity in our time is what President Trump has delivered in an incredible deal.
The outlines of those deal now made public.
Iran does not get a nuclear weapon.
Iran behaves normally.
Iran does not allow for themselves to become a terror state.
Iran stops bombing everybody and we stop bombing them.
We move our military where it belongs on our shores, which is wonderful.
And then the Arab states were allowing to invest in Iran. That's great. That's what happens when you are a stable and logical partner.
That opens and liberates avenues of commerce everywhere and stabilizes all of our allies in the region. It is very good.
Only bloodthirsty demons want, for some inexplicable reason, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Americans, to be poured into Iran to go die in the mountainous hill countries in what would probably be the single hardest country to conquer.
based on all of its geography.
So enough.
President Trump's signing at Versailles last night, a peace agreement, well done, sort of ridding
the world of the rotten Versailles agreement that happened after World War I, that immediately
led to World War II.
That immediately leads us into our first bit of conversation today.
Because we didn't learn many lessons from World War II, did we?
We learned practically nothing.
This is Moscow this morning.
Have you seen this footage?
This is bananas.
This is in Moscow getting a drone attack this morning from Ukraine.
Thousand drones hit Moscow this morning.
Look at this oil drum.
Look at the top of that oil drum.
Boom!
It's like Yamaka.
Look at that thing.
Like a flying saucer?
Looks like a UFO.
UFOs are real, I believe.
Anyway.
Some gallows humor there.
All of Moscow is burning and in flames.
This will continue.
And it'll go back and
forth until somebody uses a nuke. It's awful. I don't want it. We just locked up Iran with the peace deal.
This is what Moscow, the skyline of Moscow this morning. Look at that raining black, black boiling oil residue all over cars, vehicles, playgrounds, municipal buildings.
It is insane footage. Look at this. Dude, that's crazy. I believe. I choose to believe. That's the flying saucers. I've seen flying saucers.
Well, this is what Voldemort Zelensky posted.
He said, yeah, we struck a bunch of commercial buildings in Russia.
The goal here is to take down Russia's gas infrastructure.
They're a petrol state, much like Iran.
Yesterday, Trump said he's going to sanction Russian oil.
I think the move here is to sort of bring a forced peace to the region.
I would love to see that.
That would be great.
I thought that the peace in Ukraine would be part of the Iran deal.
it would be awesome to see we pray for peace.
Blessed are to the peacemakers, says our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
He says, you will be called the children of God.
Look at that.
Whoa.
He says, you'll be called the children of God if you make peace.
Please let that be the case here.
We don't want any more war.
We don't want to disgrace our ancestors by taking the peaceful world in which they left us,
the relatively peaceful world in which they left us and died for.
and then inviting into the front door.
This is a single most Russian.
Okay, I'll just play you this.
Again, if you want some gallows humor.
This is the single most Russian video that has ever existed in Internet history.
This is Chernobyl vibes.
Dude, just like having his milky coffee watching the black flames encompass all of Moscow.
Look at this.
This is called Russia maxing.
That's what this dude is doing.
Oh, man.
So anyway, Moscow hit by the largest of Ukraine.
The Ukraine strike since the start of the war.
This is where it is.
By the way, these strikes are 400 miles away from the Ukraine border.
Do you understand?
Do you understand?
Like, look at this map.
400 miles these drones traveled.
That is sophisticated weaponry.
That is sophisticated war making.
Things have popped off.
And we want them to chill out.
And they're not going to chill out because we haven't learned our lessons.
These are the lessons that we failed to learn.
Here is the rape gang inquiry that was released yesterday by Rupert Lowe.
This rape gang inquiry report seen by 40 million people.
64,000 repost, 167,000 likes.
Look at that.
Probably the single most viral government report in the history of the internet.
50,000 saves. What does it say inside of the rape gang inquiry report? Well, a quick summary of this 300-page
report shows that 95% of the perpetrators of a sophisticated grooming and rape gang were of
Muslim heritage. They trafficked and gang raped and racial abuse tactics, young, local British
girls who were in the working class. Then they had all of their horrific crimes covered up.
by the institutions inside of the UK.
Why should we, not in here as a report itself,
I deeply encourage you to go read it
if you have a strong stomach.
Why should we not be surprised by this?
We're going to have Tommy Robinson on
and just one second to comment on this.
Obviously, I wish to simply explain to people
if you bring in a venomous snake into your home
and it bites you and you get a horrible injury,
you brought in the snake.
You knew the nature of the snake.
You can find the nature of the snake in nature.
You can observe it.
It is observable.
What do we observe in Islamic culture?
Concubinage and right-hand possessions.
The Quran permits sexual use of female slaves,
historical Islamic conquests involving enslaving and raping non-Muslim women as war spoils.
And Muhammad even allowed for this to happen.
Muhammad married a six-year-old.
Classical jurisprudence accepts master-slave without modern consent standards.
There you go.
And you can see, Summa 4, 24, Summa, 23, 5, Summa, 33, 50.
The infidel dynamics, non-Muslim, are seen as lesser and subordinate sexual activity is available in conquest.
Modern echoes of jihadist rhetoric focusing on sexual jihad, this rape culture.
This is something that, of course, you can find naturally practiced right now in nature.
Where would you look?
well, you'd look at most Muslim countries, but especially Muslim countries that are run by ISIS,
where rape culture is the norm.
You go ask any G-WAT veteran?
You know anybody who fought in the great global war on terror that lasted 20 years?
Oh, I certainly do.
I bet you do too.
I bet Tommy Robinson does.
Go ahead and ask them what they witnessed in Afghanistan.
Ask them about the child sex slavery.
Ask them about where they were forced to turn their eyes and look away.
at the heinous, hideous, inhumane, barbaric caveman sexual practices of selling children for sex,
of sex slavery, of concubinage, and our American, ask any GWAT veteran, and they'll tell you about it,
and their eyes will water.
Ladies and gentlemen, what has studies found?
Well, Muslim communities in the UK show parallel patterns of cousin marriages, honor culture,
segregation, high inbreeding, and lack of impulse control.
Hmm.
This is, of course, all tied to supremacist teachings at mosques.
I'm not saying that all Muslims do this.
That's empirically untrue.
I am saying that these are cornerstones of Muslim culture from specific Muslim nations and
Muslim regions that you cannot find in Christendom because, of course, we don't allow that.
You can read the Bible end to end.
And you can't find permissible sex slavery, concubinage, or oppression of people who aren't Christians.
You find the opposite, of course.
These don't exist in Christian-founded nations or what we would call civilization because they're not permissible via the religion that is the bedrock of Western Christendom.
But they are permissible in Muslim countries.
It doesn't mean that all Muslims do it.
it means that you will get that if you import enough Muslims.
That's what it means.
For instance, the highest coefficientcy for all in breeding is in Somalia in the whole world.
One of the highest coefficients for child brides in the whole world is Somalia.
So why should you be surprised when Ilhan Omar marries her brother?
What she did.
That's what happens in Somalia, especially for fraudulent purposes.
going to get something out. Why should you be surprised when you bring Muslim people to the UK and something
like 20% of the United Kingdom is now foreign-born Muslim heritage. Muhammad is the most common name now
in the United Kingdom. Why should you be surprised? You shouldn't. It makes perfect sense.
Our inquiry report proves without a doubt that there is an undiable linkage between religion and
rape gangs, Islam. The country, we need to say it. You can see here where the rape gangs were.
stop calling them Asian grooming gangs.
They're not Japanese.
Call them what they are.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen.
And here are some of the mugshots.
250,000 young women.
Tommy Robinson on.
Absolutely bang on.
Make no bones about it.
Karras Sarmer, who shoved under the rug,
13,000 different Pakistani groomers and rapist
and gave them warning.
letters to not rape again.
That's how you'd solve it.
Online censorship attacks and all fronts are designed to stop people from seeing these
things. Share it everywhere. Message to the family, group chats everywhere.
The man who's maybe the most censored man on earth.
A man who is perhaps the most arrested man in the entire United Kingdom.
His name is Tommy Robinson.
He's a total incomplete patriot. He has millions and millions of followers and subscribers.
He draws millions of people into the streets of London to celebrate.
the Anglo-Sphere and Western civilization,
and to do so in the face of Karest Armour,
a man who I really hope is the Prime Minister of England one of these days.
The great Tommy Robinson joins our show live right now.
Tommy, welcome to the program.
It's an honor to have you.
Thank you for having me, mate.
Thank you for having me.
I know there's quite a time difference,
so I don't actually know.
It's extremely late.
No, it's half free.
Okay.
All right, good, okay.
Okay, so let's begin here with this,
dark topic of the rape game inquiry.
Is there still a total blackout in British media over this?
There is.
And do you know when you read this report, Benny,
maybe you can understand why they went for me,
hellful ever, all guns blazing.
When I opened my mouth about this in 2009,
I first opened it in 2004,
but in 2009, I bought it to the nation's attention
when we took to our streets in our thousands of young men.
We were angry young men.
And we took to the streets and we weren't,
allowing them to silence us. So we come under fierce attack, but I don't think anyone can quite
comprehend the lengths the state went to to end me, to finish me, to destroy me for talking about
this. For example, so we start a movement called the English Defence League. I'm due to talk about
grooming in Rovroom. You'd have seen the Rovroom mentioned in these reports. Robarums where 1,400
children were raped. It's in Yorkshire. Rovroom's in the borough of Yorkshire. And I'm due to go there
and the police arrest me. I'm arrested at Luton Airport by special branch and they arrest me for a
criminal damage. So I'm held for criminal damage thinking what is that about? Yeah. And I stayed in the
hotel room and in Yorkshire the day after our last event and they said that there was 30 pounds of
$40 worth of damage on a hotel room door. And then they they at the same time they raided my family's
home and my parents home, armed police raided both homes. They ransed at the homes and took all the
phones to call the computers. When they bailed me, they bailed me and my bail conditions,
not to send an email, not to use social media, not to be in a group of three or more men.
These are my bail conditions, yeah, not to be a group of three or four men. My bail date
was the same date that I was due to speak in Yorkshire about the grooming gangs. Now, so
Yorkshire police travelled four hours for this raid. Now, I put in a complaint for the IPCC.
This is in 2009 saying that I believe you've arrested me to prevent me talking about
the rape gangs to prevent me highlighting problems that are going on in your areas with
problems that you've allowed to happen they accepted it so after after six months once the
demonstration date had passed once it held me and prevented me for my activism for six months
they just said yeah there was no criminal damage so they fabricated charges going back to 2009
and then they made me they made me they made me they made me the next hitler to the world yeah
that's what they made me they literally the media i was attacked as a rae
far right extremists, every single media outlet attacked me. Now, when you read this,
you can understand why. Because every, and when I talk about this, the level of cover-up,
and when you follow the people, on my next documentary, I've done a five-part series so far called
the Rape of Britain. If you haven't watched them, Benny, watch them, we go after the gangs,
we do police-style investigations into how the men operated, who operated, we put trackers on their
cars, we go and covertly surveillance, and we go to their homes, we go in their businesses,
and we tell the stories of the survivors.
And you hear, say in episode one, Nicole,
she tells the story.
And I was making these documentaries at a time
when I was invisible,
when I was de-platformed from every social media in the world.
So I was making them only on get-up,
a little social network in the United States.
So I was making them,
and I made episode one where we get the witness statements.
We go through the case.
They started raping the girl at 11.
They impregnate her at 13.
There is a hundred percent.
DNA match for the fetus because the when she has an abortion, the police took the fetus.
So from the fetus of the baby, they get a 100% DNA match for the rapist. So they know who's raped
there. No further action. No further action. He did not get prosecuted. A 24 year old male who raped
a 13 year old child. And we show all this in our documentary. So when you hear that the rape gangs
have been dealt with, and I'll give you an example, so in Telford, Telford had 1,000 victims.
to small town in middle of England, 1,000 victims.
It has a 1.7% Muslim population.
So there's only 4,000 Muslims there.
Get rid of the women, get rid of the children, yeah,
get rid of the under 16s.
The police investigation identified 200 men
from the Muslim community who had been raping the children.
There's only 1,000 Muslim men.
The police investigation identified 200.
These are their figures, not mine, yeah?
They prosecuted 11.
So when you see that the prosecution to happen, you're seeing these images, it's this much.
Because they don't have the resources, don't have the prison places for the scale of the rapes.
And the only places we've got numbers for is Telford and Robherom.
So Telford, we know from the investigation that there were 1,000 victims.
As I said, there's no Muslims in Telford.
In Roverham, the other town, which is a big news story, there's 1,400 victims, raped.
So in Telford, five of them are murdered.
Five of them burned a life.
set on fire, tortured, killed in this small town. Now, when you go to Rotherham,
Rotherham has a 3.7% Muslim population. There's none there. There's none there.
No, my town, 50%. Now, I become prominent in my activism. My cousin was a victim of these gangs
when we're 13 years old. So I've seen all of this my whole life. And I saw it in my hometown of Lutum.
I saw the Pakistanis. I saw how they acted. I saw,
I saw the hostility, I saw the violence, I saw the aggression, I saw the terrorism, saw the
jihad, I saw it all. My town has 45 mosques, so I've witnessed it, yeah? And then when I started
talking about it, when I set up a national movement, we started in Luton to highlight, because I thought
it was a Luton problem. And then when I started traveling the country, I realized this is
happening in every single town and city, every town and city. And then what you now know is grooming
was never mentioned, it was still in cover up mode. So they tried to crush us the English defense.
he tried to crush us. They tried to crush us. It didn't work. They put us in jail. I've done,
I've done six prison sentences, not for crimes, not for any actual crimes, for journalism,
challenging grooming gangs, making documentaries. My last prison sentence was 18 months in prison
for making a documentary. I'm making a film. So at the point, I don't think your audience,
I've watched what you're doing, it's great coverage. The scale of this problem,
no one can comprehend. No one can understand. It's not 200,
50,000. It's far more. It's not, because even if you look at the cities, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the
in my town. So this is every single town and city. And to an American audience,
if you don't think this is happening in America, you're mental. If you don't understand,
you know Minnesota, the way they turned a blind eye to the fraud. They let billions of pounds,
and they pretended it to know it's happening. Now, the reason for all of these actions,
same in the UK, yes, it was fear of being branded racist, but the other reason was our governments,
each of them were intent on mass open border immigration. Now, what you're reading now in
that report is the reality of mass open border immigration. It's what happens. So if this,
if people were allowed to know 30 years ago about these crimes, they'd start looking at the
government policy failures of mass open border immigration. So they hid all of these crimes because
they were intent on continuing flooding this nation with Pakistanis, with Eritreans, with Somalians,
with Iraqis, and even when you're talking about the snake, I'll just listen to your,
But when you're talking about the snake, in Afghanistan,
99% of Afghans want Sharia law, right?
88% of them believe stoning is a suitable punishment for a woman,
digging a hole and smashing rocks against her.
88% of them, yeah?
So every 100 Afghanis that you let in,
because Joe Biden letting hundreds of thousands,
literally bought them in, flew them in.
Every 88 out of the 100 believe they can stone a woman with rocks against their head.
And 99 out of the 100 want Sharia law.
So that same snake that is now ravaging Europe is going to ravage America.
It's going to do it.
It's exactly the same.
Now, in Holland, these gangs were called lover boys.
Lover boy.
That's what they call them.
Lover boy.
And there was actually a film made in 2007 in Holland.
And it was an educational film for the schools.
And it was to let them know the lover boy tactic.
Because how these gangs operate is they call it lover boy because they make the girl fall in love.
they get a 12 year old, a 13 year old,
they get a 24 year old Muslim man with money in a nice car,
and he grooms them in, he buys them trainers, gives them money, gives them alcohol, treats them well.
And then, bang, they gang rape them, video them, torture them.
But by that point, the girl's reliant on the man.
By that point, the girl thinks the man's her boyfriend.
By that point, she's isolated already from her mum and dad.
They changed the group of friends she hangs around with.
They totally, it's an entire system, yeah, and it's the same MO everywhere.
So as I said, Holland, lover boy, made an educational film to educate that the Moroccans in Holland are doing this to Dutch girls.
When they wanted to play the film in the UK, it got shut down through accruations of racism.
They didn't allow it to play.
Now, lover boy, grooming gangs, love jihad is what it's called in India.
I don't know what name you're going to come up for in America, but you need to get one ready because it's happening.
I guarantee you it's happening.
Wherever there's a Muslim community, they are ravaging, raping,
grooming, whatever name you want to come up with it, it's a rape jihad. That's what it is.
Yeah. And the figures, as I said, the scale of the problem. And when you see the arrest,
so if you draw a graph, which we drew, so the English Defence League formed in 2009, yeah.
Now, there was no arrests. There's no arrests. 2009. At that point, 10,000 young English men
were hitting the streets into the Muslim areas, into the, it was provocative how we acted.
We had to. No one was listening.
to us. No one was listening. And at that point, we had the world's attention. The English
Defence League come a household name in Britain, but around the globe. And media sources,
so we bypassed the British media, because media were coming in from other countries.
And literally, I went through and done a presentation called the Rape of Britain, where we looked
at this, there's no arrests. English Defence League forms in 2009. By 2010, all the arrests start.
Because at that point, behind closed doors and corridors of power, they realized, we've got to do something
here. Yeah? This is now boiling over into potential race.
riots into potential sectarian violence. Because British men at that point in 2009, English men,
which they called us hooligans, call us what you want. We were dads. We were men. You're raping
our kids. And not just you're raping them. So yes, we're angry of you, the Muslim community,
because you all knew it's happening. Do you know when the whole scale of their 30, 40 years?
Germany Muslims went to the police and reported on the other Muslims. Or do you how many Muslims
have given evidence against the other Muslims? Not one. Not one single Muslim thought it was the right thing to do
was to report that he saw his colleagues, his family, his friends, because they were all involved.
Brothers, when you go through these cases, brothers, fathers and sons, Benny.
I met a dad from Blackpool. I met a dad in the early years in the English Fencing. I went to see him.
Daughter's gone. She's been gone for years, crying his eyes out. Do you know what they'd do? They'd ring him.
They'd ring the dad, why the dad and the Muslim, the rapist, would rape the girl.
And they'd be on the phone to the dad while they're raping his daughter.
Be on the phone to it.
I don't feel angry.
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I can comprehend the level of satanic rape,
the butchering of what they've done to these children.
Because this wasn't about sexual gratification.
This is, as you're right, it's about conquest.
It's about taking the thing that we hold the dearest to us.
Our daughter, the most vulnerable thing there is.
And it's about destroying it and taking it.
And I remember that dad, it must have been,
I met him in 2009, and he must have rang me again in 2013,
crime, she's home to me.
She's home.
But this has gone in every town and city.
And what you're reading,
and then the attacks against everyone
who tried to talk about it.
Every, that I mean, like, it wasn't just me,
my name come prominent, in it?
They destroyed and ended people's lives on
because of the level of cover up.
And when I say the level of cover up,
for example, again, I'll give you another example,
the police officer who was in charge of robber and police force,
who facilitated and allowed these rapes,
at the height of the years, well, he's now in charge of counterterrorism.
I was prosecuted under counterterrorism last year.
I was arrested four days ago by counterterrorism.
So they are still in cover up mode.
They are still in attack mode.
They are still that, again, people still don't,
I know this report's come out, I know people are reading it.
But again, it's far worse.
It's far bigger than anyone can comprehend.
The logical question following,
the horrors that you just described, Tommy, is certainly the British taxpayer and the British patriot who fought in multiple wars in order to secure the island and to ensure that barbarism doesn't come to the shores of England and that the English people would be safe in their home and hearth.
surely those people can trust that their government would not invite through the front door,
barbarians that were worse than England fought in any world war.
That's exactly what's happened.
It's happened on purpose and has happened via official state policy.
So where does the blame fall with the state?
Has surely Kirstarmer, who's in charge here and has a jurisprudence background.
Surely he has done something to stop this, right, Tommy?
Not one single politician, not one single person in a position of power has been held to come up.
Not one.
Even when we know they're covered up, all the reports have come out.
Because the first report come out in 2014, I think, which was a Robin report.
And up until those five, those first five years, they'd labeled us, they'd attacked us, smeared us.
And a lot of people didn't like us.
They thought we were trouble makers.
The report comes out and proves everything we said was true.
So at that point, and I was in jail.
I remember I was in jail when the report come out, sitting in the prison cell.
And it's all blowing up on the news.
I'm like, oh my God, man.
Oh, my God, it's out.
Like, they can't get the out.
Because we'd fought, we'd fought to get that out and to bring it to the public's attention.
2014, the brave lady called Sammy Woodhouse, you should get her on your show.
She's brilliant.
She's been relentless in this.
She's the lead, I'll say lead survivor.
She's become the face of the survivors of the rape gangs.
she was a victim of her rapist got the biggest prison sentence.
I think he got 30 years in Rovroom.
He raped her as a child, abused her, impregnated her.
But she fought relentlessly and she went through the first court case,
which then really exploded it.
And then there was a domino effect.
But then at that point, that's where you get them.
So when they had to start bringing court cases,
which they had to at that point,
we then started getting them reporting from the court cases.
Like, I just spoke at Oxford University.
last night in a debate. Now, when you think of Oxford, what do you think of in the UK?
You think of pristine, beautiful university. Not anymore, mate. Oxford was the centre of one of these
biggest rape scandals in our country's history, where girls were taken to the houses next door
to mosques. One of the girls was 12 years old. She had a hot iron rod with a letter M, heated up and
scolds on her bum because she was the property in Mohammed. They tortured them. Now they're
tongues to tables. And while they've done all of this, when they've done all of this, counsel,
the police, everyone. You have to say that out loud so many times.
every institution and everybody and every group whose job it was was protect these children
done nothing sat by every media knew it's happening everyone because if you lived in the town
like loot and you knew everyone knows it's happening yeah so I knew it's happening we all knew it's
happening right so everyone knows that's happening in every town of city media know so at that level
they had to start dealing with the gang so in the court cases we started then hearing that what the men were saying
be a six-week trial and the media are being caught and they'll be reporting every day,
yeah, every day. So you'll be getting the news on these first few trials. Now, the government
then thought, we need to cover this up, yeah. So from that point on, we got the first two
of three trials where we heard the words the men we're using, they're calling them dirty gooder,
white slags, they're making religious comments, racial comments, all of it. And we got the
detail and the horrific detail every day. So it was going everywhere. From that point on, the police,
put reporting restrictions, the courts, the courts put reporting restrictions. So every case now,
if there's a six-week trial or an eight-week trial, has a reporting restriction. So in 2017,
I went to a court case in Leeds, and I stood outside the court case as the member walking into court,
and I said to British public, what you don't know is that court cases are going on in every town
city, but you're not getting the details. There are currently 30 men on trial here for raping hundreds
of children, and you will hear nothing about it. They got me, the judge come and got me from it. So I
court, bought me inside court and sent me a jail for 13 months. And let the rapists go home.
One of them packed his bags and went to Pakistan. They were more worried about the public
knowing what's going on. So they have these reporting restrictions. Now here's the really dark
and sinister bit. Because every court case in the UK, so they have these reporting restrictions
on the cases. Now, the transcripts for the court cases cost tens of thousands to buy to get.
If you want the transcripts. So they have an eight-week.
trial, we don't know what's gone on in the trial because there's a reporting restriction.
We get one day's news at the end. Now, if you want to know what's gone on, the transcripts are
only held for five years. Kirstama's accelerating it now. So after five years, every single
transcript and every word and every document for that court case will be deleted. So everything
that's happening in these courtrooms is going to be deleted. So if you try in 10 years or 15 years to
look back at this moment in history and find out what happened to the girls, they are deleting
every aspect. That's how coordinated this is, in still in cover-up mode. So Google that,
but, Benny, do a piece on the fact of the government are deleting all of the transcripts
in the court cases, which means we'll never be able to get the true scale or the true horror
and the true crimes that were done to these children. Your prime minister is,
complicit in this. He's in the, he covered up and gave warnings to something like 13,000
Muslim rapists. What is your message to Karasama? Your days of numbers. And I don't think,
so when you see lots of things happened and lots of things failed here, police,
failed, government failed. Do you know who else failed? We failed. As a nation, we failed. Now,
we lost morality. We lost faith. We lost culture. We lost the church. We lost Jesus. We lost our belief.
We lost everything, our identity.
And that wasn't a mistake.
The church, all these things where I'd say is a successful left-wing revolution.
Open border mass immigration, attack the church, attack the family, feminized the man,
weaken the man.
All these things have happened.
Now, that left a void.
And in that void filled all these barbaric ideas, yeah.
But we as a nation, if we had pride, if we had pride, we wouldn't let any of this happen.
As men, we wouldn't let it happen.
So we lost ourselves.
Yeah, we lost ourselves. Now, what Keir Starman, what I think people should be looking at Britain and realizing is, Britain's been asleep for 30 years. Britain was paralyzed through fear. Our leaders, but not just our leaders, all of us were. When I started, Benny, you've got my name there as Tommy Robinson. Yeah? My name's not Tommy Robinson. The name's the name's the name's the same, but I used a fake name because I was scared. I wore a mask because I was scared. I didn't want to lose your job. I didn't want to be in that position. So I understand the fear that the public had because I had that fear. I knew they're going to be.
attack you. They're going to want to kill you. I understood the problems of taking on Islam,
because I'm born in Luton. I get it. What I didn't understand was the British state and the lengths
it would go to and the dark side of the British state and how corrupted it was. So, but what,
what, what, what Kirstama's government and what the globalist or the elite, whatever word you want
to come to for them need to understand is that a cultural revolution is happening in Britain,
a political revolution is happening. People are finding faith. They're finding an identity again. Men are
becoming strong. Men are meeting. There's a lot happening, Benny, outside of this that I'm watching
and I've waited 15 long, bloody years for. Yeah, please. I've waited 15 long years for this moment.
And I'm looking at it happening. You mentioned before we had millions on the streets. All of these things,
unfortunately for us, as a nation that was asleep, all these things had to happen. Like I say in America,
you needed Joe Biden for four years, yeah, to be able to elect Donald Trump with a mandate.
where the public support the change
it's needed to be brought in.
And we need all this.
Sakea Stama, his days are numbered.
Nationalism, patriotism,
whatever, where do you want to come to for it,
is accelerating.
It's a fire that they're not going to be able to put out.
But again, until we get justice,
as in until every man, police officer,
because none of them have been prosecuted,
they've all swaned off with their pensions.
They've all swaned off for their pensions.
But not just that.
Out of the 200 rapists in Telford,
11 were prosecuted.
So how many have been let off in different towns and cities all over the nation?
Every rapist must be prosecuted, but not for being prosecuted.
We don't want them here.
They need to leave.
The community that allowed this to happen needs to leave.
Every family member that knew their brother, cousin,
because what you have to understand is that this isn't been frowned upon.
The community support them.
So when they go to court, these rapists,
all their wives in that are in court support them.
They don't, you know, like a paedophile would get kicked out of the community,
driven out of the community.
Not this.
This isn't paedophilia to them.
This is accepted.
This is okay because it's non-Muslim girls.
You've already looked at it.
The biggest question, it started off as Asian grooming gangs.
We managed to get it to Pakistani grooming gangs.
We've now managed to get it to Muslim-rate gangs, Islamic rate gangs.
Yes, the majority of Pakistani, because the majority of Muslims in the UK are Pakistani.
But I went through the figures of where they're from.
They're from Iraq.
They're from Afghanistan.
Do you know the Somalian gang?
There's a smiling gang in Bristol.
He said in court, it was his religious duty to do this.
So I've gone through, they literally quote the Karam whilst they're raping the goats.
Yes.
We read through the Sumah and the hadiths of how this is permissible under that religion.
What you're doing there, Benny, what you're doing there has not been allowed to happen.
No one's been allowed to look at why.
Because I always said in the UK, that's what they crushed us for.
Because once I accepted there with these gangs, well, why is it Muslims?
Why are 3% of the country Pakistani male?
But they're responsible for 90% of the convictions.
That question which you're going into to look at the Hadith, to look at Mohammed's words, to look at his actions, we are, you couldn't do that.
We can now.
We're only because he's not all X.
But literally you mentioned this.
You were invisible and you were deleted.
So, so this isn't, this is a, a United Kingdom that nobody recognizes because for the first time and maybe since William Wallace were having beheadings in the street of Northern Ireland, Henry Novak.
is stabbed to death and the state turns on him and drags him across the gravel as he bleeds out and
dies. You're having a moment of true horror, Tommy, and you're still the majority. Like Britons are
still the majority in your country. This is happening to you when there's just a very, a relatively
small minority that is doing this to the majority. What happens when you're outnumbered? I mean,
it becomes, I mean, truly all the English must flee then your home island that your ancestors
built and died for.
They're already fleeing.
Right.
So what is the solution here exactly?
Can you please, and maybe, I mean, maybe I'm asking a little too much, but could you paint an
opportunity, could you paint an optimistic visage of what could happen if the British people
woke up and took action?
Okay.
So I will be optimistic because, as I said, I've done this for.
15, 17 years. And I wasn't optimistic because the country was asleep. I'm telling you now,
Benny, this country's awake. The men are awake. I'm telling you. Yeah. And I see it everywhere I
walk. When I walk down the streets, the reaction I receive. I can literally visually see the
awakening. I've witnessed it. These shift in the last 24 months in Britain, I think will be viewed.
I mean, the shift is insane. The people, people who hated me now support me like that. I'll tell it
like this. I've got two daughters. One's 14, one's 18. When the 18-year-old was at school,
she had a hard time and the kids hated me. Yeah. The 14-year-old, it's all changed. In those
four years, it's been changed. Not just the kids, the parents now speak to me, like me,
understand me, understand what we're saying. So that awakening has happened across the whole
nation, yeah? And people are awake, mainly, I'm going to pin this back. Thanks to Elon Musk,
by an X, because none of this would have happened.
The awakening that's happening would not have
happened without social media and X, yeah?
It wouldn't have happened without you electing Donald Trump.
It wouldn't have happened without Rubio, J.D. Vance, and Trump,
there's three or four Americans that are fighting
for the free speech of Europeans and for the culture of Europe.
And it's come from your election.
So my YouTube channel has turned back on two weeks before I got out of jail.
I got out of jail a year ago, yeah, for the last film.
And my YouTube channel has turned back on.
Now, that's a ripple that come out from your election.
Because I was deleted off YouTube.
All of a sudden I'm back.
Yeah.
All of a sudden I'm back.
So that ripple of free speech.
And I don't think courage is, men full of courage anyway, men full of courage, yeah.
So they're not just men full of courage, but that ripple that's come from the United States
has given as lit a fire in all of us.
So we now see, I see, because I was born, I see this is it now.
Two years ago, when Eno must turned on my page, he turned on my ex, I was pretty broken,
Benny. I spent time on solitary confinement, messed my head. I was in a low place. I was in a dark
place. I'd gone through a divorce. My family had been attacked. I'd had all these problems. I've
been bankrupt through the courts for everything. And I was abroad. Elon must turn my phone back on.
Turn my ex back on. And I contacted, I remember going, right, this is it. The fight is now one, yeah?
So I contacted 12 influencers. Call them influencers, call them YouTubers. Katie Hopkins, Lawrence Fox,
Carl Benjamin, Mayor Toosy, you may know some of these names.
All of them have been attacked at some point.
All of them have been under the same name calling, the same slander.
I contacted them and said, right, we need a meeting.
I'm coming back to the UK.
Can we get together for 48 hours in a hotel?
Yeah.
Our country's in danger.
Our culture's disappearing.
They're going to win, yeah?
We're losing everything here.
We met up.
We sat down 12 of us and we said, right, let's work together on a new cultural movement.
Because if we change the culture of Britain, we're going to change the politics of Britain.
we can't set up a political party.
We don't have hundreds of millions of pounds.
But let's make it cool to be British.
Let's bring Jesus back into the forefront.
Let's reignite and let this country understand what built this nation.
Let's get back to it.
So we sat and we said, I don't want to talk about what we disagree on.
But each one of us wrote our 10 most important points.
And then we saw where they drew up and matched.
And the point of it was was that it's not my cultural movement.
The point of it was that we together, us 12 influencers,
you've got a million on YouTube.
I only had 200,000, 300,000, 300,000.
next at the time. Yeah. But then he had TikTok, she had Facebook. So whereas on the platform
from some, by bringing all 12 of us together, we can now message and reach the nation if we,
if we work together. We come to a five value system. Yeah. We're against mass immigration. We're
against Islam. We're against LGBTQ plus indoctrination of children. We're for free speech.
And we're against, um, we're against LGBTQ. We'll get, we're for mass immigration, for free speech,
against Islam and we're a Christian culture,
Judeo-Christian culture, we're a Christian nation, yeah?
So those five values.
If we agree on these five principles and we work together,
us 12 people, click of a button,
we're going to reach this nation, yeah?
And then we started the United Kingdom movement.
We come up with the name, United Kingdom,
and the focus of it was to awaken the nation,
but through culture, because Kirstama was elected of 9 million votes.
20 million didn't vote, many.
Yeah, 20 million didn't vote. Now, those 20 million don't care about politics, because I know
who that 20 million, are there us? It's me before I got involved in this. It's working class Brits,
but they care about culture and they care about identity. So we started a movement two years ago
to shift the culture, to shift the discussion, to shift the over and window. And if I look at the
success story of it, everything's changed. Look at the rise of Rupert Lowe's party. The fact,
when we listen to Rupert Lowe yesterday in what he said, I said, I've waited 15 years to have a political
figures say this in Great Britain. Now there's different aspects. It's a political aspect,
but a cultural aspect. United Kingdom is a cultural movement. We want to
get in to the 20 million non-voters and we want to spend the next three years
captivating them, electrifying them, giving them back their sense of belief and identity
because the reason they're not voting is because they don't believe they matter.
And apathy, apathy has led to the rape gangs. Apathy has led to the destruction of our nation.
Apathy has led to Kiyosama leading this country, one of the most weak.
yellow yellow bellied cowards I've ever seen in this nation is the leader of our nation.
We need strong men. So we need, and that's what we've created through United Kingdom movement.
So I am optimistic, but what do we need to do? Really? We're going to spend the next three years
reaching those movements. We're going to go into working class, tougher states,
signing them up and registering them to vote. So we need a cultural movement and we need a political
movement and we need a new media, which is why channels like yourself, Benny, we are, we are the media.
the difference with they still think they have the monopoly they still think the BBC channel four it's
like no you're dying yeah you don't get it you're dying we as in the combination of the 12 people
we bought together and what we did at these events is then we sent 30 invites out to the new media
to YouTubers to TikTokers for our first event we bought music culture we bought Christianity
celebration and we created events on the streets which were a celebration of who we are and we
went from 30,000 to 100,000 to 200,000 to millions. And that's where we're at now as a
nation. The awakening is happening. People are the fact that this report is on the views you're saying
it is the most released report in history. I waited when I last went to prison last year,
Elon Musk shared episode one. Now when you've made these documentaries that I've made,
there are incredible documentaries. When you made them and you tell a lady, a girl story and it gets
200,000 views. It's pretty disheartening.
When Elon Musk shared that, it went to 40 million views.
So, yeah, I would give you optimism that there's a lot to solve in Britain with a lot
of problems in Britain, but Britain's getting organised.
Men are, and this is another aspect of it, Benny, this isn't happening in the church.
There's a Christian revival happening in Great Britain.
It's happening on the streets.
It's happening with, it's happening in parks.
There's men are meeting in parks.
It started in one park in the north of England.
men met up tough men but they met up to physically train and pray together it's spread like a fire
it's spread and now there's men there's 50 men in that park 20 men in that park 30 men in that park
and they're all meeting up and they're all praying together and then they're all fighting and physically
whether it be combat sports physically training carrying each other so it's men and are empowering men
so there's there's different aspects that are going on that I'm watching all these things organically
spring up. So it's organically happening. And it's like, as I said, for me, it's exciting.
I've been waiting 15 years. For me, I've worked my life to get to the point where people are
listening. So things are happening. Yeah. A revival. So you're saying a revival is happening in
England. I don't have much, we don't have much time. We have a senator waiting that actually wanted to
listen to you. And so it's been, I'm going to ask him a number of follow-up questions.
Maybe a very final question for you, Tommy, before maybe we do another long-form.
podcast because there's so much here to unpack and so many follow-up questions I didn't get a chance
to ask.
I'm hoping I'm in America.
I'm hoping I'm back in America soon.
Oh, will you?
Oh, fantastic.
Okay, great.
Let's do a number of events together.
There's a Brit that might become governor of California.
So who knows?
Are you ever going to run for office?
I don't see that as my position.
I think that in House politics, I don't see, I see my position is to get the 20.
million to reach the working class to get them get them registered to vote yeah and i see that my
position is in media and that's where i'll never say never but i am making documentaries i've got
lots of plans for documentaries this year and we're trying to expand our team trying to grow our team
we do everything we have five there's only five of us in my team yeah and that's that put on the
events put on the street protest do our do our video stuff so we want to expand our team but i would
say to Americans, when I come to America, I met Keith Self. I met many, he was the head of the
Sharia caucus. Now, when you have politicians, you're at 1%, yeah, Muslim population. So,
obviously, look at New York, it's coming, yeah, it's coming. But, and look at what they're doing
in Texas. You went from 300 mosques to 540 mosques in five years, yeah. There's 600 organizations
active now, Muslim Brotherhood sponsored organizations as well, active now in Texas, 600.
Now, they're working 24 hours, day, seven days a week to change Texas forever.
That's their goal.
Who's working to stop them?
Is there a coordinated federal movement to stop what they're planning to do to your country?
Because they've done it to ours.
So I come to America and say, this is what they've done to ask, this is how they've done it.
Now, you already have some brave congressmen stepping up, some real brave, lots of them speaking out.
Support them.
Get behind them.
Get behind anyone.
So they're not left on their own.
Because when they speak up, care and these organizations already embedded in the United States,
they're going to attack them. They're going to go for them. They're going to try and take them down.
So you need as the public to support anyone and everyone who's having this conversation,
anyone who's brave enough to have these discussions right now, get behind them, support them.
Stop funding Netflix and start sponsoring these sorts of channels.
Because this is the new media. So as I said, for me, there's three fronts to it.
There's a political movement, a cultural movement, and a media movement.
And all three need to benefit each other.
And yeah, the same problems coming in America. It's there. It's there.
It's there. I saw it. I saw it when I come there. Sorry.
I've been a lifelong dream of mine to go fundraise for a Henry Novak statue. I want to
put up actual statues of the people who we've lost in this cultural war. I know there's a number
of Charlie statues that are in the works. Areno Zastruca has murals throughout large American cities
and Austin Metcalf and his family just got justice, if you can call it that. But
unless you shine a light on this, you'll never change it.
People have to not look away.
And so we're thankful for you, Tommy.
And we're thankful for the work that you do.
We look forward to seeing you hopefully state side.
And God bless you.
Everybody follow Tommy Robinson.
He is the man who is in the arena and has actually suffered for his beliefs.
So few.
Many of us get to sit in a studio all day.
But Tommy actually suffers for his beliefs.
And that shows true conviction.
He's willing to sacrifice in the sense of a martyr for his beliefs.
And so follow him, follow his work.
Tommy, we look forward to seeing you stateside.
Thank you, Betty.
You've had a good work.
Cheers.
Bye, bye, bye.
Cheers.
Cheers.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, what a dark, what a dark interview.
Tough.
It's not magic rocks.
Countries aren't magic rocks.
Magic rocks don't make a Japan or an Italy or a,
Somalia. The people make the country. Import the people, you'll import the country.
So if you like how Japan runs their culture, which is pristine and clean and orderly and
lawful, then if you import Japanese people, not arguing for that, but like, if you import
you're going to import that culture, if you don't like the way, or if you wouldn't like
to live in Sudan, or if you wouldn't like to live in.
the countries like that are in the third world, which you don't, of course, then you
mustn't import people from those countries because the people make the countries. People
are the culture. If you took every Japanese person and moved them to Florida, then they would
bring their language, they would bring their laws, they would bring their sensibilities,
they would bring their food, they would bring their music, they would bring their culture.
Florida would cease to be Florida.
It would become something else.
It becomes some hybrid Japanese version of this.
But it would be Japanese.
There'd be deep Japanese sensibilities suddenly.
That's just the way that it is,
especially if you moved every Floridian out of Florida
and just replaced all of Japan here.
That's how it works.
I mean, please understand the people are the culture.
That's like really what we're,
it's ultimately what we're talking about here.
England is learning this the hard way.
Let us not learn it the hard way.
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going on in the world right now. So I'm sort of waiting for our production team to pivot and
tell me what direction, what direction that we are going. We have Joel Pollock and we also
have Boe Nickel that will be joining the program. So plenty of fantastic, like a fantastic suite
of guests and some incredible voices in our movement. However, it's a live show. So this is
This is the way that it goes.
Senator Johnson did have to go to votes.
That's too bad.
We were big fans of Senator Johnson.
He said, hey, can you put me in so that I can listen to Tommy Robinson?
And then he bounced.
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Ladies and gentlemen, what do we have here?
Trump personally signs Iran deal.
We have this and we talked about it at the top of the show.
I wanted to talk about obviously the main subject of the show.
And I think that was a bang on interview with Tommy Robinson.
But we have the Trump signing the peace deal. It is a very good peace deal. I needed to go a little flames on.
You know, off the top, because I'm angry that there are what I believe to be foreign assets and paid influencers who are manipulating this moment and attacking the president because they are bloodthirsty monsters. I don't know.
because they're manipulating this opportunity to make more money for the defense industry or for their nation that's paying them.
Or for the warmonger neocons, I'm not sure.
But whatever it is, I'm sick of it.
We support our president.
We're proud.
Please play the signing.
We're proud of him.
We're glad that the president has done this and has.
work so tirelessly in order to get this officially over the finish line. Again, this is an
incredible agreement that puts the behavioral onus on Iran in order to behave as a rational,
regional partner and to accelerate peace and stability in the region. Iran in this agreement promises
to never have a nuclear weapon, to let America down blend, and to rid it of
all of the highly enriched uranium, and to open the strait of Hormuz, President Trump just
posted about the Strait of Hormuz.
Please grab that post.
We have Donald Trump saying, yo, saying, yo, the oil is flowing.
Oil is flowing in Iran.
Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.
The world will be safe.
The stock markets are roaring.
Jobs are at records and prices are dropping.
affordability. Our country is strong, safe and respected like never before. You are welcome, says Donald Trump. President Trump. Let's go ahead and check in on, go ahead and check in on those oil prices. Oil is officially below $4 a gallon. It is exactly as we predicted. It is precisely what we said was going to happen. You love it when that happened. Let's go ahead and look at it. Let's look at it. Let's look at the cruise.
future is $73.
Below $4 a gallon, a reminder that the national average was $2 a gallon on December 16th,
$2.25, $2 a gallon equates to $65 a barrel gasoline.
At $73 a barrel, you can do the math.
We're seven bucks away from oil moderating down to $2 a gallon.
Will it be there by the midterms?
I bet it will.
And by the way, the national average includes California that slaps a $2 tax on every gallon of gasoline and a number of other dumb states like Florida that has way too high of gas prices and too high of taxes to offset, I think, a number of other tax necessities here in the state.
So we'll be working on that.
And ladies and gentlemen, we are proud to have trusted the plan.
We are proud to see the president winning, and the president watched our next guest win big at the White House just a few nights ago.
We are honored to have on the program, Bo Nickel, who fought and got a monster, K.O. right in front of President Trump.
And he's a man of his word and something you should really respect.
Bo told me hours before precisely what he was going to do.
He wouldn't mind.
He'd pop that up.
Pop that up, pop up the post real fast.
Bo said, I'm going, we were having breakfast.
And Bo goes, I'm going to knock this guy out.
I want to do it right in front of the president.
Then I'm going to jump on the cage.
and I'm going to shout out the troops
and then I'm going to hop over the cage
and I'm going to dapp up our president
and that is precisely what Bo Nicol did.
So he's a man of his word.
Sorry guys, couldn't find it fast enough.
Come on, you were so close!
Well, there you go.
There it is.
Here we go.
Zoom down.
You almost had it, Klein.
There you go.
Last one.
Keep going.
There you go.
Show me that.
Show me that.
Show me the K.O.
There you go.
Klein's a big UFC fan.
There you go.
See ya.
Say ya.
Sleep.
Go to sleep.
And then what does it?
What does the man do?
I mean, trust people who trust people who don't lie to you.
What does Bo do?
He jumps the fence.
Here in the octagon, under the claw.
And then he hops right over to President Trump.
There you go.
Thing of beauty.
And look at that.
Something that was not reported in this was that 70% of the audience were active duty service members.
And there it goes right over to Trump.
Badass.
Let's find out what that was like joining us live now.
UFC superstar now nationally ranked Bo Nickel.
Here we go.
So confident, Beau.
It was like, it was very much.
What's the famous Muhammad Ali, Babe Ruth, pointing to the front.
similar to that.
Similar vibes.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
No, I was, I think that for me, visualization and knowing the end before the beginning starts
really important.
So, you know, you've got to have an idea what you're trying to do out there and go make it happen.
Still, there's a lot of pressure.
I mean, I know that, you know, you sort of have tunnel vision and you've been,
you've been on championship stages before you've seen that, you've felt that pressure.
You're three-time NCAA champ and collegiate wrestling.
but this is unlike any other stage in world history.
And maybe we'll never happen again in world history.
So it's a lot of pressure.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I think that the thing about pressure is really interesting
because obviously you can let it control you
or you can just meet it and attack it.
And I always feel like the pressure is something that you choose, right?
Like, I'm not forced to fight.
I don't have to go out there and do this.
I want to do it.
I love it.
I train every day, so I'm prepared to go do my best out there.
And so the pressure is something that, you know, you can look at it like, oh, man, there's
all this pressure.
Like, how am I going to deal with this?
Or you can look at it as like, hey, this is an opportunity.
I get to be the one that goes out there and does this.
So I'm just grateful for it.
And I just try to have fun with it.
Can you tell us the behind the scenes of the walkouts?
Because even as much as the fights, and I think is the first time that you had eight out of
eight KOs ending matches.
And not to insult the work that you do in the ring,
but it was, bro, the walkouts went insane.
They went insane.
How did that go?
Man, it was amazing.
Going in, you know, it's going to be special
just because of the circumstance and the nuance
and how amazing it is.
On Thursday, we ran through the walkouts
to kind of get an idea of what it was going to be like.
And at that point, I was like really in awe.
I was just wowed.
And, you know, you had all the stuff.
service members there. I was next to a service member as well as a medal of honor winner,
which was just unbelievable, such a cool thing. And the band was insane. And I'm glad I got to do
the walkthrough because honestly, I got a little emotional during it. It was just like,
this is so special and so big and I feel so grateful. And then, you know, flight night was even more
amazing, having the crowd there, having President Trump as well as, you know, so many friends
and supporters of mine. It was just like, it was unbelievable.
So you, when you're walking through the White House, I mean, what's that like?
Like, when, because you're obviously being followed by a big camera crew.
You have heroes on, you know, both sides of you, you know, so you're walking out.
But your tunnel is the White House.
Your tunnel is the most historic home in the world, arguably.
Yeah.
Yeah, you just, you know, for me, I was just trying to enjoy it.
I always just try to, you know, smile and have fun and be present.
And it was so cool to be there with, as you mentioned, the service members, the heroes of our country and, you know, my team and having everybody there to experience it was, it was the coolest thing.
And then I felt like, you know, walking through, just seeing the histories, just kind of understanding, feeling the gravity of that moment was so special.
and then once I got outside, I felt like I was in front of, you know, four or five thousand of my best friends.
So it felt like a home match.
And I got into the cage and I looked and I right where my cornermen were, it was my cornerman.
Right next to them was President Trump.
And I was like, wow, like he's in my corner.
Like that's pretty cool, pretty special.
Gachi went viral for staring at the Declaration of Independence.
He later said he couldn't read it.
And he can't read.
That's cool. But like, it's neat to see him respecting it, even if he can't read it.
Even more respectful, frankly.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It's good for you.
He's trying to understand.
And I think that's special about him is trying to learn.
38 is an amazing age to learn how to read.
Anyway, the good point is, was there anything inspiring inside of the White House?
Was there any moment where you were like, this is giving me inspiration.
This is giving me like pure America maxing inspiration.
I think that for me, where I really felt inspired, I mean, there were so many moments,
but one of the most inspiring moments, so where we warmed up was in the Eisenhower building,
and then we had to cross the street.
And so they tell us, you know, ready to go, let's get an elevator, go across the street.
So I go downstairs, walk outside, and then I have this picture just of like, on my right is
kind of like the lawn, you see the kind of set up.
And then on the, like, to the left of that is just the White House.
And I'm just like, wow, like, I'm about to walk in here and do this.
And that moment, to me, I felt very, again, very grateful and appreciative and very inspired.
Just to see, like, knowing that's where I'm going to be in a few short minutes,
I'm going to walk through this, this, the most historic building on the planet,
be able to go through that with, you know, my friends and family and then walk into this arena and compete.
That was where I felt really like, all right, it's go time.
like, let's do this.
So you get the K, I think it was the second round, right?
End of the first round.
Sorry.
So first round,
uh,
KO.
And then you did exactly what you said you were going to do.
I'm going to hop the fence.
I'm going to shout out the service members.
And then I'm going to hop on over to President Trump.
And we have some epic photos that will cycle through here.
Uh, Trump,
obviously standing up for you.
What happened in this moment?
Yeah.
It was just such a surreal moment.
So, you know, I'll rewind real quick.
Back in 2019, when I won the NCAA championship in wrestling, I was able to visit the White
House.
And that was the first time that I met President Trump.
You know, I'd kind of been a fan before.
The first election I got to vote in, I voted for him, which was cool.
And so then in 2019, getting to meet him was really special.
And I told him, he asked what I was going to do after wrestling.
I said, I'm going to fight in the UFC.
And he was like, he actually said, do you need an agent?
And I told him I would appreciate that, but I think he's probably a little busy.
But it was just a really, really cool moment.
And so I kind of just brought that up and came full circle.
Like, hey, in 2019 we met, you know, I told you I was going to fight.
And look where we're at now.
I just can't thank you enough for making this happen.
And I'm so grateful for our relationship and his support.
So it was just a big, big thank you to him, really.
We have the moment right here.
We'll pop it up.
What is it that you said to him?
I said none of this would have been possible without you and just means the world to me to have been a part of the event.
I love him and thank you for everything that he does for us.
So it was just, you know, a lot of gratitude for him.
This is an event that is just, it's never going to be replicated.
It's never going to happen again.
And it's so special to have been a part of it.
So I'm just really appreciative.
What do you say back to you?
He just said, you're the man.
And good work.
And that was about it.
Later he called me and told me I just did a fantastic job and we just talked about the event a little bit and stuff, which was cool.
And I mean, he's such a special guy.
So it's still doesn't, like, I think back on it.
And I'm like, did that really happen?
Like, is all that like, that really happened, right?
Like, luckily we have video evidence that it did because otherwise it doesn't really seem real.
That's crazy.
So in the middle of like the G7 and the signing of the peace treaty and Versailles, he picks up the phone and calls you to be like, what's up?
man. Yeah. No, the dude, he loves fighting. He loves it, loves the sport, loves the competitiveness. I think
that there's just a lot of alignment with him and fighters and just the way he, you know,
handles, handles his business and handles our country. So, you know, it's, it's a real genuine thing from him.
I can feel it. As a fighter, you can tell when people are like, like kind of somewhat in it,
like, oh, like, yeah, blah, blah, blah, but he's like really in it, which I appreciate.
Yeah, I mean, he's locked, he's locked in. I mean, if there's any,
anybody who should be on their phone or should be spaced out or should be thinking about other things
or has other things on their plate as President Trump.
Of course.
And he just,
he just,
he sat there locked in ring side for the next three and a half hours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I love his reactions too.
Like he just is,
you can tell he's just seasoned in there.
He's like a veteran of combat sports like understanding what's going on.
And like,
he watches the fights and the knockout happens and he's like,
it's not like a big crazy.
He's just, he's just been there, done that, which, and he just knows what's going on, which is cool.
I mean, conversations that I have with them, we'll talk about, you know, other fighters, the rest
of the division.
Like, it's like I'm talking with, you know, one of my coaches or, um, a teammate because he's
very, you know, he's very on the ball with all that stuff, which is crazy to me because
he's obviously has so much on his plate.
Right.
That's right.
What is, is there anything to the rumor that you helped him sign the Iran peace deal and that he was,
he was leaning on you deeply for knowledge and that you, that you, that you, that, you, that,
you help negotiate with the Iranians?
Oh man. Yeah, yeah, of course, right?
He's running, running a lot of that stuff by me.
Good. That's great. Thank you, Bo.
I mean, we're, like, appreciative for you.
And you're not, and your,
your, your, your, your, your,
farcey knowledge. We're, like, really, like,
that's a special thing you don't know about,
though. No, I'm dialed.
Okay, so one final question about the fight.
Like, when did you, when,
when did you see the opportunity
for the knockout?
What is it that goes on? What sequence
of events goes on to take that, you know, to take that sequence the way that you did. And maybe we'll
pop up back up on screen here. And, uh, and, uh, and can you talk me through that? Because that's a
choice, you know, it's an extraordinary number of series of choices that you make and you make them
correctly in order to give the chaos. For sure. No, that's a good way to put it. And, uh,
everything's happening in a split second. So I really got to give a lot of credit to, um, my training,
to my coaches, my team, the guys at American Top Team, Mike Brown, Ayelton Barbosa,
that are able to, you know, help me day and day out, be prepared for those moments.
And I think that, you know, again, I mentioned earlier, but visualization is really important
for me. So I visualized about 100 different ways to finish the fight. That was one of them
that kind of popped in my mind was like, you know, throwing that front kick up the middle.
I felt like after we were stood up from the ground, his reactions, my opponent's reactions,
were a little slower, a little more labored, and they didn't seem like, so I saw kind of an
opportunity to, you know, use some of my athleticism and be able to land something. And so I throw
the front kick up the middle. It grazes his cheek. And I was like really quickly, like, oh, man,
like if I had thrown it like an inch further, he would have been unconscious, like it would have been
dead. And, but I also like noticed he kind of wince a little bit. Like I could tell like it,
it hurt him. And in that moment, just understanding, like, you got to go in for the kids.
Like you can't be hesitant.
You immediately went, boom, left hand, right, followed up with the right hook.
And he went down.
And then, you know, I knew like just at that point, he's just trying to not get hurt anywhere.
So just throw some elbows, finish him off.
The ref's going to stop it.
And yeah, that was a dream come true.
And you turn around.
You can see it in the footage you, you turn around right to Trump.
Yeah.
You can see.
Like, look.
You did a hail Caesar is what she did.
Exactly. He gave me, he was doing this one.
Yeah, it is right.
Amazing. Maybe a final question about what this all means. I mean, we've, you know, I'm like taking it all in. It was really special.
For me, it's like a, it seems like a refoundation of American masculinity, conquests, violent combat that builds nations.
Right. And that strengthens men and that strengthens cultures. And you need to have strong men to have a good culture and have.
peaceful place for our wives and family and children to live and you you want that.
And you didn't get that, of course, in the last few years.
You got the opposite of that.
Sort of like the feminist longhouse, passive aggressive,
estrogenetic culture that attacked manhood, that attacked masculinity and attacked
combat sports and so on.
And we all heard the stories from Dana.
I mean, they would have banned UFC if they could have.
They've tried to a million times, right?
they don't want that. They don't want even the sport to exist.
And so to see it in a place of extreme problem,
to see it glorified, right? And then to see, you know,
what Dana tells me is like more views than maybe the biggest viewed sporting event
in history, I guess they're consolidating all of it right now.
That's really neat. And it seems like an inflection point.
And so what does that mean, I guess, for culture?
Yeah. For me, I,
I love the momentum that we have.
And the shift in, you know, it's okay to be yourself.
It's okay to just handle things in a way that isn't always just like soft and mushy.
And I understand, you know, wanting to have empathy towards others,
but also understanding like what's right and wrong.
And so I feel like really this is such a significant moment and it's such a important.
I'm grateful to have been a small, small piece in what this really represents, right?
The fact that there was fights on the White House lawn.
It's, of course, a sporting event, but it represents something much bigger than that.
It represents a shift in culture that's, hey, this is okay.
Like, it's okay to stand up for yourself.
It's okay to fight.
It's okay to have strong beliefs and it's okay to compete.
Like it's not the worst thing in the world to, you know, have winners and losers.
And you learn either way.
You learn from wins.
You learn from losses.
And we're going to go compete.
We, nobody gets a participation trophy.
And that's real life.
And it's exciting because I have two young boys and I want to raise them to be, you know, great men, people that compete, people that treat others well and have, and men of character.
And I think that combat sports, especially fighting, it's a microcosm for that because, yeah, of course, I want to go win fights.
And of course, I have goals within my career.
But all these things that I'm doing, it's building character.
It's teaching me lessons.
And I'm learning day and day out how I want to, what type of man I want to be.
And so really, these are just lessons for me and reinforcements on how I want to live my life, how I want to treat other people, how I want to go about my, my, my, my,
days in my business and things like that. So really it's exciting to, you know, I've just been a part of it.
And I hope that people see the example of, you know, a lot of great men. And they're able to
follow that and, and understand themselves better and really just, you know, be the best they can be day and day out.
It's an amazing example. It's so good for culture. I have two boys as well. It's so important for culture to see.
Culture needs strong men to create good times to, to create safety. And they need men that are willing to do
things and are willing to, well, commit violence if they need to conquer, right? To be in combat.
Like, that's how all great societies are made. Yeah, a lot of the, like, guys that I know who are the
best fighters in the world, they're not guys that are, you know, trying to fake bravado, act macho
in the street or fight people in the street. Like, we're fighting, we're fighting each other
every day in training and stuff. And we're capable of that. But we're also, you know, the most
calm and, you know, decisive, intelligent people under pressure.
Like, that's what this is really doing.
It's building the character and the skills that it takes to make good decisions under pressure
and, you know, not be the first person to enact violence, even though you can.
And that's like where I think that I see the positives, you know, and culturally, it's like,
you need to be able to do that.
You need to be able to have.
wisdom and discern, you know, when to do it, when not to do it and, you know, not be a bully,
but also understand like, hey, like, I can protect myself. I can protect the people I love,
and I'm capable of doing that. I have the confidence to be able to do that. I'm not scared of
a little bit of a confrontation. Yeah, not scared of having Ilya Tupura's face after. I mean,
I'm on my guess. Okay, like, final, did that surprise you? Yeah. I mean, that is, that's the,
like, the most viral photo in my timeline is like the before after. I was shocked. I was shocked.
And, you know, like thinking about it, I really just, only thing I can equate it to is a Rocky movie because, you know, Justin Gaci is obviously an American badass who, you know, has put in some unbelievable performances and unbelievable amount of effort into the sport.
And was really no, everyone was counting him out.
Everything seemed, his odds were insurmountable to pretty much everybody outside of him.
And he went out there and made it happen.
So, you know, I was surprised, but that just proves you never doubt America.
And, you know, you've given the opportunity, it doesn't matter what the odds are.
America's going to make it happen.
America's going to make it happen.
That was the Spanish-American War, man.
That was brutal.
I mean, people are calling it maybe the best UFC fight in history.
And it's really something to witness.
An amazing moment for America.
Thank you for being part of it.
The audience loves you.
Godspeed Bo. Everybody could follow Bo here on his social media. His ex-account has
hundreds of thousands of followers. And we're going to get Bo to championship at here.
And what? A couple of, I mean, you get a, you get a shot here. Yeah. Yeah. You might get a shot.
You're right? Definitely. Yeah. Probably, you know, I would say within the next 12 months,
that's the plan for me. So, man. Exciting. Godspeed, Godspeed, man. We'll be in your corner. Team Bo
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have JD Vance live right now at the White House, didn't want to cut Beau short.
Here's our vice president. That's not what the president has asked. Doing a press conference.
But as part of the final deal, what we want to see is Iran not funding regional instability, funding regional terrorism.
And of course, try to rebuild their nuclear weapons program. That's the main thing. The nuclear weapons program is destroyed. It is gone. If the Iranians decided tomorrow to build a nuclear weapon, they simply don't have the capacity in order to do.
do that. What we're trying to ensure is they don't rebuild that capacity not just a year
from now, two years from now, but many, many years from now so that our children never
have to worry about a state sponsor of terrorism having a nuclear weapon.
Thank you, Mr. Vice President. You were just saying that you're hoping this deal
would prevent Iran in the future from getting a nuclear weapon. But from what's been put out
there of the MOU, I'm curious how does the MOU reflect that in the future Iran will not in fact
get a nuclear program? What's stopping them from down the road to your point, rebuilding and restarting
from where we were pre the war? Well, number one, they would have to get a lot of money in order
to rebuild a nuclear program. You're talking about billions and billions of nuclear infrastructure
that the United States destroyed. In order for them to rebuild that program, they would have to get
a lot of money. And we have them in an economic chokehold right now that we're not going to release
until they fundamentally change their behavior. What would that look like? That would mean a real
inspections regime. That would mean a real enforcement regime. As the MOU,
that would mean the destruction of their enriched stockpile.
All of these things are the sorts of steps you're going to take if you're serious about ending your nuclear weapons program.
And that again is why I go back to this fundamental trade that's built into the deal.
They need money to do anything.
Their economy is an absolute dire straits.
But in order for them to get any integration into the world economy,
they're going to have to show us and verify for us that they are changing their behavior.
And that's why the deal is set up in the way that it is.
Go ahead.
President Trump said yesterday that he was going to blame you if the talks of the round
goes sideways.
Are you worried that he's going to make you the poor guy?
No, not at all.
I mean, I think the President was joking, but as he often does.
But no, I think, look, the entire team has worked very well on this, and we've got this thing
to a very good place for the American people.
Now, I have seen some progressive criticisms of me personally saying, what experience does the
Vice President of the United States have with hostile, high-stakes negotiations?
And I would point those progressive critics to the fact that just two days ago I spent over an hour on the view
So I actually have a great experience in very hostile negotiations and I've used that
I mean look Joy Behar is way tougher than the Iranians and she and I are best friends now
So we're gonna get to a good place here. We're gonna get to a good place
We're already at a good place. It's just a question of whether we can really get the icing on the top of
Fundamentally transforming Iran's relationship with the world. Go ahead.
Thank you a couple of just timing questions
How soon as the MOU lays out, can Iran start selling any of its oil that is sort of
of been impounded, right, with the blockade?
And two, can you sort of explain the Lebanon component to the MOU and how that front works
and the enforceability of it?
Yeah, so the Lebanon component, this is about regional peace, right?
This is about regional peace.
And what that means is we expect Hezbollah is not going to be firing rockets and firing drones
of the Israelis.
And we also expect that the Israelis are not going to be going wild in Lebanon, right?
Both sides have to honor their end of the deal.
Now, as you guys know, sometimes these ceasefires are a little messy.
The President of the United States said this a couple of weeks ago that a ceasefire in
that region of the world just means they're shooting a little bit less at each other than
they were before.
What you've seen is radical progress in Lebanon, less shooting, less firing, but you're still
going to have these little flare-ups from time to time.
And that's just the sort of thing that we're going to have to manage through the
diplomatic process. Secretary Rubio's been sort of the person on point. It's actually worked
out extraordinarily well because we do have substantially less shooting, but it's going to be
something we have to manage. And eventually what we want to see is the Lebanese government,
the elected representatives of the people of Lebanon who are able to police southern Lebanon
so that Hezbollah has not taken over the country. The Israelis are not threatened. And then consequently,
the Israelis are not tacking southern Lebanon or Beirut either. That's the plan there. You
about the Iranian oil. Look, one of the interesting things that you've seen is that the Iranians
have been completely unable to sell oil, not because of sanctions, but because of the blockade.
Fundamentally, the thing that we have done here, the original, you know, what we give,
what they give is that we said we're going to lift the blockade, we're going to allow you to sell
some of your oil, and they're going to open the Strait of Hormuz.
We see that process starting to work already.
It's going to take a little time before it picks up fully, but that's where we are today.
Thank you, Mr. Vice President.
The MOU, just on the straight, the MAU guarantees these 60 days of toll-free passage, but after
that it is, of course, led to a regional dialogue with Amman and Iran deciding the future
of the strait.
A senior U.S. official told us yesterday that they expect Iran to push aggressively on this,
but also that Gulf states won't allow any kind of tolls.
How strenuously will the U.S. fight to keep tolls out of the strait and keep any fees away
from the future straight commercial traffic?
are you going to leave it to the Gulf states to kind of fight this battle?
Well, first of all, we believe international waterways should be free of tolls.
And that's been our position.
That's what you see, of course, in the 60 days of the MOU.
And when you say it leaves it open, it doesn't really leave it open, except in the sense that,
of course, the final negotiation is going to set the terms of what comes afterwards, right?
You said, I think that it's the Gulf, it's the Omanis and the Iranians,
but it's actually the MOU contemplates that the Omanis, the Iranians, and the Gulf Coast coalition together.
will figure out a proper security framework for the straits in the future.
And what I mean by that is that we don't ever want this to happen again.
That's not about tolling.
That's about ensuring that the straits are never used as a choke point for the global economy ever again.
It's frankly not what the Iranians want.
It's not what the Omanis want.
It's not what the GCC wants either.
So what we're going to do, of course, working with our allies in the region,
is to ensure that that is reflected in the final deal.
And if that's not reflected in the final deal, there's not going to be a final deal.
And that is, I keep coming back to this fundamental structural point of this negotiation, which is that we have all the cards.
If the Iranians want the benefits of the bargain, they have to give us the things that are necessary to get those benefits.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Vice President.
We'll do both.
Okay.
Both of you guys.
There's one of the white and then one in, you know, orange, I think.
What about the bank?
I'm sorry?
Okay.
Okay.
Maybe I'm, maybe on colorblind, it looks more orange to me.
I don't want to have a debate about that.
Orange, pinkish, you go first, and then in front of you, you can go second.
My question, especially from the Treasury Department, how does that square with the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act?
And are you planning on briefing Congress on this portion?
Yeah, so I talked to James Brade, our head of OLA.
We do plan to brief Congress very soon.
I believe that they got the formal copy of the signed document this morning, and if not, they're going to get at some point later today.
We are planning a briefing.
I believe right now the House is out of session.
the Senate is in session, though maybe I've reversed that. But we're going to ensure that the team
briefs Congress and, of course, answers their questions. We've been doing that informally, of course,
talking to a number of people in Congress just over the last week. We'll keep on doing that
and we'll have a formal briefing. I won't say exactly when that will be because it depends
a little bit about session schedule. Your point about the sanctions is I'll go back to what I said
earlier, which is really the choke point on Iranian oil was never the sanctions. We didn't see that
as a major concession to the Iranians. Frankly, the Iranians didn't see that as a concession to them
because what prevented them from selling oil was not the sanctions. They were selling plenty of oil
without any discount because the sanctions were just fundamentally ineffective at that point.
What the sanctions did do is move the Iranian financial system to sort of the shadow banking system.
So by lifting the blockade, that's the significant thing that has changed. And by lifting the sanctions,
we're actually going to be able to see a little bit where their financial system actually sends money
and receives money, that's a real benefit to the American people. And that's really the only
thing that is changed by the change in sanctions.
But those are not required Congress from the...
Oh, sorry, yeah. Sorry, I forgot that part of the question. No, we don't think so. We actually
have an opinion from OLC. We feel quite confident about that, you know, Congress does,
there are certain things that require congressional approval. There are certain things
that don't require congressional approval. We feel quite confident that we can temporarily
with those sanctions without going to Congress and seeking their approval on that.
Apparently, there's been reports coming out of Israel that Iran is already funneling oil
money to Hezbollah, even before this particular MOU was signed.
And how exactly is the U.S. looking at this?
If we're talking about behavior on part of Iran, October 7th happened.
And if there's concern that perhaps Hezbollah could end up doing some sort of hat on that skill,
You know, how exactly are we talking about the reaction to the United States if you're talking
about perhaps a humongous scale attack that actually could happen?
Are we waiting for that type of attack?
I mean, what exactly is a scale here?
Sorry, you said what exactly is a scale?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, like, what type of attack would it take to actually get a reaction from the United
States to say, okay, now we're actually going to start dropping bombs on a, on a, on
on Iran for having bad behavior.
Well, we don't want any scale of any attack.
Any attack, whatever its scale is unacceptable under this agreement.
Now, you asked the question saying that oil money was flowing to Hezbollah before the
MOU was signed, and it's one of the reasons why we are actually engaged in this process
is to ensure that no money is flowing to Hezbollah.
So it's interesting where people will say that the MOU is bad because the MOU produces
consequences that were actually happening well before the MOU was signed. That's not a reflection
on the MOU. That's a reflection of why we need the MOU to ensure that we have the regional peace
and stability that we need. Now what I would say to, you know, some of the critics of the deal
that I've heard that will say, well, Iran's going to get all this benefit. I'll repeat what I've
said and I'm probably going to have to repeat it a number of times is what is the benefit that the
Iranians get that they didn't have before? And the answer is,
nothing. They don't get anything unless they change their behavior. If they change their behavior,
that is a thing to celebrate. That's going to transform the Middle East for a generation. If they
don't change their behavior, they don't get the benefit of the bargain. And I think, I've got to be
honest, I think fundamentally, fundamentally this idea that, and it's a misrepresentation of the
MOU, this idea that the Iranians get all these benefits before the deal is actually consummated.
The idea that they get benefits before they change their behavior is fundamentally a talking point that is issued by people who want the conflict to continue indefinitely despite the fact that that's not good for the American people and it's not good for the region.
Way in the back.
All the way back in the red.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Right here.
Are you fine?
We'll do. Okay.
Sorry.
Thank you.
I'm wearing bright red.
So many people are wearing red.
You can go first. Kara, right?
Thank you, Karen.
Okay, and the next after that.
Okay, great.
Could you highlight the major differences between this deal and President Obama's deal in 2015
and why the administration believes that this deal is superior?
And second, Mr. Vice President, President Trump has been vocal lately about his disapproval for B.B. Netanyahu's attacks on Lebanon.
Has the administration spoken to B.B. Netanyahu directly about the president's concerns recently,
and what is the feedback from Israel?
Yeah, so we speak to BB or speak to somebody in the Israeli government.
Just as we speak to the Gulf Coast Coalition, our regional partners pretty much every day,
at least at some high level of our government.
Look, the president has been very clear.
He does not withdraw from Israel.
No one could withdraw from another country, the right of self-defense.
Israel has the right to defend itself.
But fundamentally, the Israelis, just like everybody else, have to respect this peace process
that is fundamentally good for them and good for the entire region.
What the president has to grow in frustrated sometimes is that we seem to be right on the cusp of a major breakthrough in the agreement,
and then all of a sudden there's a major explosion that goes off in a civilian population center in Beirut,
and a lot of people who have nothing to do with Hezbollah lose their lives.
That's not acceptable. That's the sort of thing that we've asked for closer coordination so that we ensure it doesn't happen.
And our message to the Israelis, just as our message to everybody else, is fundamentally, we want this peace process to be good for you.
We do not want Hezbollah attacking Israel, but in order to ensure that that happens, we have got to actually build the kind of regional framework that can cut off the money to Hezbollah, cut off Iranian support for Hezbollah, and also ensure that Lebanon's territorial sovereignty is respected by all parties.
And the difference between the two agreements.
So first of all, the two big differences are not even in the substance of the deal itself, but something I said earlier.
are number one, the Gulf Coast Coalition loves this deal because they think that it makes Iran weaker.
They hated the Obama deal because they thought that it made Iran stronger.
They know more about this and they have more to lose than anybody, including the United States of America.
So I trust their judgment.
The second thing is where the deal came from.
You have to remember, in 2015, Iran had built a sophisticated nuclear weapons program with a nuclear weapons stockpile.
So the perspective that we came at as the United States,
was you already have a really nice nuclear program. We're going to bribe you with American money
in order to stop it. Our perspective and where we're coming at it is we already destroyed your
nuclear program. And so if you promise and show verifiable pathways to not rebuild it, then we're
willing to give you some sanctions relief and things like that. So it's a fundamentally different
perspective. Now there are all these substantive differences as well. The Obama nuclear deal
allowed enrichment. Ours will not. The Obama deal allowed the accumulation of stockpiled
weapons-grade material. Ours is actually leading to the destruction of that stockpile of enriched
materials. So there are many differences. The Obama deal gave them over a billion dollars of
American money. This deal gives them zero dollars of American money. So a lot of substantive
differences, but I think the most important differences are where we're coming at it from a position
of strength and the fact that our Gulf Coast partners love this deal.
No, sorry. I said the other all the way in the back. Thank you.
Margaret, with the Daily Wire. The president has said that if Iran doesn't behave themselves,
we're going to resume military action. So what is the red line for what Iran can do before they cross that red line?
We do resume the military action. Well, it's just, it's going to be a holistic approach where we look at their behavior.
Are they funding terrorism? Are they leading to attacks of other people? Are they trying to get centrifuges to redevelop their nuclear weapons program?
There are all these questions that we're going to ask about whether they've actually changed their behavior.
Do they allow the inspectors in as they have promised that they would do or do they refuse to allow those inspectors in?
A whole host of things we're going to see.
We're working towards a very successful resolution of this process.
But again, it takes two to tango.
And what the president is just saying is that we maintain economic, diplomatic, and military leverage that nobody else in the world has.
So if the Iranians want to change, great.
We're going to help them.
If they don't change, we still got all the cards.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Oh, sorry, in the blue jacket.
Yeah.
This one right here.
This one right here, Mr. President.
That's a Navy jacket.
Should we have a debate about the difference between blue and navy?
Not that guy, because you give a speech whenever you ask a question.
I'm going to give her an opportunity.
Hold on.
Guys, you're speaking over the person who's asking the question.
There's been a lot of social towning this.
But when should they expect to see guys?
has reached that $3 threshold?
Well, I'm not an economist, and I think even the economists would get this wrong,
but the fact that you've seen gas come down about 65 cents a gallon on the national average
and the fact that you see oil prices that are basically close to where they were at the very
beginning of the conflict, I think you're going to see a substantial reduction in gas prices.
I'm not going to predict the exact price.
If I was able to do that, I might be in a different business than politics, but we do think
you're going to see significant relief at the pump on top of what we've already.
see.
Thank you, President.
You keep saying that Iran will only reap economic rewards if they comply and change their
behavior.
But under this deal, they are being allowed now to sell their oil freely.
Again, how is that not a financial benefit?
And they're being allowed to do that without making any new concrete nuclear commitment.
So can you explain how is that not lopsided?
Well, first of all, they've made very concrete nuclear commitments.
They have committed to the destruction of the highly enriched stockpile that they have in their
possession.
But number two, all we've done is lift the blockade and the straits of the fort.
We basically returned it to where it was before the conflict.
The blockade is off.
We put that in after the conflict started.
The straits are now open.
That's not a new benefit to the Iranians.
They were selling oil for many, many years well before we ever put the blockade.
We opposed that blockade.
They stopped selling oil.
And now we've lifted the blockade in order to promote the free flow of energy across the world.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
official described having secured some of these, quote-unquote, gentleman's agreements with Iran
on certain aspects of the negotiation. So when it comes to highly enriched uranium, can you
walk us through what's been secured, even in these kind of gentleman's agreements, on how exactly
they're going to get rid of the stockpile? Are there agreements on low-grade enrichment? How long
is the moratorium on enriching uranium for Iran? And are any of these gentleman's agreements
written down anywhere? So some of them are written down, but fundamentally whether they're
written down or spoken. This is why we structured the deal that we did because we don't trust words. We trust action and we trust conduct. And so we're going to reward conduct and we're not going to reward any words whether they're written on a sheet of paper or not. There's a lot of discussion, the MOU, the gentleman's agreements, the final deal. Words don't matter, ladies and gentlemen. We're about verification. And so what we're going to do is to say if they do the things that they have promised to do, they have promised not to enrich. They have promised that they would allow inspectors in to destroy that highly-enriched. And so what we're going to do is to say, if they're going to do the things that they have promised to do,
rich stockpile and then of course it's not usable anymore you take it somewhere else
they promise a number of things and that's why the deal contemplates a number of benefits
if they do those things but it doesn't do anything if they don't actually meet those promises
go ahead if they don't follow through with their commitment will the u.s go back to imposing
sanctions and the blockade or does Iran get to keep some of the concessions that it has already
secured well first of all these sanctions are still on with
the exception of the oil sanctions, which I talked about were no longer effective.
The purpose of the oil sanctions is to drive down how much Iran is charging for a price
for a barrel of oil. Those sanctions had stopped being effective. The blockade is what's effective.
And again, that's the thing that has changed in accordance with them opening the Strait
of Hormuz. No sanctions will come off unless they perform the benefit of their bargain,
and every sanction will come back on, like hypothetically. Let's say two years down the road, they've
done what we need to see on the nuclear program and we release the sanctions as the deal
contemplates, then they decide they're going to start rebuilding the nuclear program.
Then of course those sanctions are going to come back on.
And that's why it's really kind of like a dial.
As they dial up their good behavior, we can dial up the economic relief.
If they dial down their good behavior, we can turn it off.
It's a good thing about having the leverage, and it's a good thing about being the United
States of America where we just fundamentally have so much influence in the world financial
system.
Go ahead.
Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Leader Boone said it's unrealistic to get the Save America Act passed by attaching it to FISA, which is what the president's looking for. Do you believe this is possible?
Well, why don't we try? Why don't we try? And at least force people to vote against it. One of the things that, you know, sometimes frustrates me about the legislative process is that people will go into it saying, this isn't possible, therefore we're not even going to try. Well, let's actually see. Let's try it. And if it's not possible, then let the people put their name on it. This is also good for the,
the American people. How many American senators know that the American people love the Save
America Act because they believe in voter ID? But how many of those same senators don't want to
vote for it because they know that the radical elements within their own party would punish them
for it? Let people go on the record and actually answers to the American people, which is why I
think we should do exactly, as the president said. Rob.
Thank you very much.
On Monday, we were told the MOU will be published within 48 hours.
The President then said after Friday, you, I think, then said by Friday, and then it ended
up being read out on a briefing call yesterday.
We were told the MOU had been signed electronically on Sunday.
There was an active report that it hadn't be.
There's going to be a signing ceremony Friday, and then it signed at Versailles yesterday last night.
Is what's going on behind the scenes as chaotic as your public messaging?
Well, I don't think our public messaging has been chaotic.
I think dealing with a fractured Iranian system where communication isn't great
is just sometimes something that we don't fully appreciate or we don't fully understand.
What really happened here is that we did sign the MOU on Sunday.
That locked into the terms of the deal.
What the Iranians came to us and said is we'd like not to release the text until Friday.
In order to, we don't, I don't really understand that.
I wanted to get the text out immediately.
But in order to be accommodating to them, we said, sure, okay, we'll wait until Friday.
And then what happened over Monday, Tuesday, the president was in G7, maybe foreign leaders
were talking to the Iranians and encouraging them to do that.
We were definitely saying to them, we understand your desire not to have the text out
until Friday, but, you know, we live in a democratic system.
The American people want to see the text of this deal.
We would certainly like to get it out as soon as possible.
And so they came up with having their president sign it.
our president sign it, and then just releasing the text as a signed document immediately at that point.
I do wonder, Rob, just this is pure conjecture. I'm just guessing at this.
I wonder if part of it is that they wanted to have a Persian translation, a Farsi translation that they felt good about.
And then, of course, once they translated into Farsi, our State Department has to confirm that the Farsi translation matches the meaning of the English.
I think that is part of what was going on here.
But the text is out there now. We said that we would be transparent about it. But the reason why it went back and forth a little bit about when exactly the text would be released is just we were trying to show good faith to the Iranians who for reasons I have no idea cared a lot about how the text itself was rolled out. Blue tie there.
Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Mr. Vice President. As you know, because you were involved in this process, the MOU allows for Iran to sell its oil right away,
which means that Iran can take in on a monthly basis tens of millions of dollars.
Iran's economy was in tatters.
How is this not essentially giving a lifeline to Iran economically?
And what's to prevent Iran from using all of that money, all of those millions of dollars,
to prop up its proxies in the region?
Well, the number one thing is that we actually see where the money moves now
because of what we've done with the financial sanctions.
We actually know where the money is going to move.
And so we have great confidence that we're going to be able to see if they try to fund terrorist
organizations.
We're going to be able to see that.
But you said that millions of dollars is a lifeline.
Right now, the Iranian nation is a nation of 94 million people.
Their economy is in a free fall.
They have sky-high inflation.
And fundamentally, about a trillion dollars of damage to their industrial base was caused over
the last three months.
The idea that selling a few million dollars worth of oil is going to fundamentally
transform the Iranian economy, that's just not true.
We thought that it would be good in order to lift the blockade and open the streets of
Hormuz to allow the free flow of energy.
We felt that it was reasonable that if we're going to allow everybody else to sell their
energy during this period of negotiation, we would allow everyone to sell their energy.
That's all we're doing.
We can slap everything right back on if the Iranians don't make the deal that we expect.
either one either one yeah yeah no no yeah guys how about how about both of you go ahead
vice president so president trump said we'll finish one talking about Iran and he said then
Cuba is next is Cuba next and also on Columbia mr. mr. vice president he has mentioned
Colombia three times this way why is it so important the election day in Colombia for
president Trump you guys have to ask Marco about Cuba that's not
Look, our view, go ahead and a second, but let me just actually answer this guy's question.
Fundamentally in Cuba, it is a system that hasn't worked.
They can't make any money.
Their economy is, frankly, probably in worse shape than the Iranian economy.
It's 90 miles from our shore, so every time that there's a crisis,
you end up having desperate refugees or desperate people who can't feed their families trying to
fall into our country.
We want the people of Cuban to be happy and successful.
We're actually talking to the Iranian or excuse me the Cuban government right now about how they could change their ways to change that.
We're going to see what they do.
And obviously if they do one thing, we're going to do something.
If they make smart decisions, we're going to have a much better relationship with that island.
Go ahead.
I'm Mr. Vice President.
Mr. President, thank you so much.
I know that you are still not sure if you are going to run for present in 2028.
but if you do not, is there anyone in particular that you would want to see Ron?
What's your name?
Stephen Capusca, sir.
I want Stephen Capusca to run in front of 2020.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Thank you, thank you, please.
I've got two questions.
Could you describe the status of your Switzerland trip?
Are you definitely still going?
What are your plans?
And also, if you could drill down on frozen funds,
There's been a lot of focus on oil sanctions, but on frozen funds.
What's your understanding of how much money is frozen?
How much of that is in the U.S.?
And a senior administration of Egypt reached, some of us reporters earlier this week,
that there might be small antis, is what he said,
like small releases of money to build trust with the Iranians early on.
Can you describe that whole situation?
So on the frozen funds, the amount of money, I honestly don't know.
I've heard numbers north of $100 billion.
I've actually heard numbers north of $200 billion.
Most of it is not in United States accounts.
Most of it's either in the Gulf or in Europe or somewhere else.
But I don't know the exact amount of money.
It's a lot.
It's one of the reasons why we've had such a successful chokehold on the Iranian economy, though by not even close to the main reason, we're not releasing a single dollar of that money until the Iranians perform.
And there are a number of ways they could perform.
For example, let's say they actually take meaningful steps.
and this could happen very quickly to destroy that stockpile of enriched material,
then we're going to have a conversation about it.
But they have to perform.
I've seen some reports, I don't know where this came from,
that the Qataris had released billions of dollars in Iranian assets.
That's just not true.
It would be impossible for the Qataris to do that without our buy-in and certainly without us seeing it.
So a lot of this reporting is just fundamentally wrong.
They don't get a dollar of unfrozen assets.
Their money, not our money, but they don't get a dollar of unfrozen assets
until they actually perform under the deal.
You asked about Switzerland.
Our plan is to go to Switzerland.
I don't know exactly when.
The way that we're setting up this technical negotiation
is that obviously you're going to have the political leadership involved.
Excuse me.
We're going to have people on the ground actually driving the technical talks,
the nuclear talks, how do you destroy this highly and rich uranium,
all that stuff that you really just have to get into the nitty-gritty on.
So, you know, I plan to go to Switzerland exactly when, you know,
we thought, we think these technical negotiations are going to start sometime this weekend.
That's still the plan. But that could change because it's not an easy country Iran to get out of.
And so we're trying to figure out exactly when that's going to happen.
I suspect this weekend, but I'm not sure.
I may, it just depends on exactly when the Iranians can get there.
We're trying to figure that out as we speak.
But again, I suspect it will happen this weekend.
We're going to find out exactly whatever the coming days.
Go ahead, baby.
Well, thank you so much, Mr. Vice President.
Just two questions for you.
To follow up on an earlier question, Secretary Rubio said in March
that the goal of this war was to, quote,
to eliminate the threat of Iran's short-range ballistic missiles.
You just said earlier that the military program is destroyed.
US intelligence estimates that Iran still retains roughly 70%
of its pre-war ballistic and cruise missile stockpile.
So when did the administration decide to abandon
that part of the original mission?
And then just second as well, moving forward,
Are you leading the U.S. team moving forward in terms of the negotiations?
How involved will you be there?
Yeah, so I'm certainly planning to lead the U.S. negotiating team.
But on the first question, you know, you talked about an intelligence report that was anonymously
leaked to a reporter that was not with context and that frankly is not accurate.
What has changed about Iranians, about the Iranian ballistic missile program is it matters
much less the number of missiles they have, the number of bullets.
What matters much more is the number of launchers they have, and importantly, the teams on the ground that have the capacity to launch those missiles.
Their ability to launch missiles has been substantially degraded.
Is it zero? No, but it's substantially degraded.
And in that sense, we haven't abandoned the mission.
We've accomplished that particular part of the mission.
If you look at the Gulf Arab allies, and obviously the Israelis who faced a lot, the two of them, together, faced a brunt of these missile attacks, each of them feels substantially safer today,
from the Iranian missile threat than they did before.
Obviously, that is something that we would like to continue.
All the President said yesterday is that you can't expect any country
to give up its right of self-defense.
You have to have parity, and that's what the President
in the United States was talking about.
Go ahead.
No, no, guys, guys, guys.
Yeah.
Reaction to the MOU, the memorandum of understanding.
I have it.
What did he say?
All right, okay.
I'll give you the short first.
Mr. Cohn.
Sir.
Yeah, sorry.
Okay.
He said, I'll give it the short version.
All right.
He says he welcomes the agreement between the U.S. and Iran.
He says it hopes it will help strengthen mutual trust, security, and stability in the Middle East.
And he also hopes that is truly a solution to the war and that the war is really over.
What do you say the Pope's here?
My response to that is, praise Jesus.
I'm glad that the Pope has positive things to say about our MOU.
I think that the Pope is fundamentally accurate and it's going to be good for the entire world.
for the entire world, but we've got to keep working at it to make sure that the Iranians
honor the commitments that they've made. And then you have to you on the front. Go ahead.
I'm going to close.
How's your book?
I know guys. With with the, the thing is, there's so many people in here, I could say the red
tie and the nine of you start shouting at us. The the burgundy tie?
Yeah.
There we go. That guy.
Thank you.
Then we call for a U.S. troop patrol from the Gulf region tied to the final deal.
Can you say whether the drawdown will affect U.S. forces past Iraq and Syria,
where Americans troops currently help protect Kurdish health areas from the Iranian-backed militias?
Okay, so the drawdown contemplated, again, this is the final deal.
This is assuming that the Iranians comply, that they give us verification,
that they take real substantial conduct towards this peace agreement.
What we're saying is that we will withdraw troops to the pre-conflict level,
meaning we're not going to keep a couple of extra aircraft carrier groups over there.
the Iranians don't want that. Frankly, we don't want that either. Go ahead. Yeah.
You don't know what the U.S. is not going to be funding that $300 billion fund.
Who exactly is funding that as a private company? And I also noticed that your voice is hoarse. Are you sick? Have you been using your voice a lot?
Well, I've been on a bit of a book tour the past couple of days, but I can't promote my book here in the White House press briefing room.
I had a cold about a week ago. That and talking a lot about this deal and talking a lot about the book, I'm definitely a little bit hoarse.
But you asked, your first question was about...
How exactly is funding that $300 million?
Oh, I see.
So what's interesting about this is there is a great desire from the Arab world
and from outside the Arab world to actually get involved in Iran if they behave properly.
So, for example, let's say the United Arab Emirates, who've been a great ally over the last,
not just a few months, but over the last many years, let's say that they would like to invest in building a power plant.
That actually is impossible right now because of the way that U.S. sanctions work.
And so what we're saying is that if you behave and if the Emirates themselves want to build a power plant,
then we will do the sanctions relief necessary to make that possible.
The good thing about that is that it actually creates integration, which is leverage.
A world where the Gulf Coast Coalition has greater leverage into the Iranian economy
is a world where the Iranians are going to be heavily prevented from misbehaving.
So it's a lot of the Gulf Coast Coalition, again, they see that Iran is weakened.
They see there's an opportunity to build a new relationship there.
And they're saying if they behave and if the United States is willing to allow this to happen,
then absolutely we want to change our relationship with Iran.
No, well, I mean, I assume that in the United Arab Emirates,
there would be private money and so forth that would be part of this.
But again, this is so far in advance because it assumes a transformation in Iranian behavior.
Sir.
Thank you so much, Mr. Vicer.
Vice President, as you know, the Iranian-backed groups in the region were involved with
in this war and they damaged U.S. facilities and Ural-Lies as well.
How does this agreement affect Iran-backed groups across the region, especially the Iranian-backed
groups in Iraq?
And my second question, this agreement requires Iran to stop attacking the Kurdish opposition
in Kurdistan region which they did two days ago?
So what this agreement does fundamentally is it requires Iran to behave like a normal
country.
And if it doesn't, as so many people think that it never will, then it doesn't get to
get any of the economic benefits. And if they do, then that's a great thing for everybody.
It's a great thing for the Kurds. It's a great thing for anybody who has been under the brunt
or under the threat of Iranian-funded terrorist organizations. The expectation is that Iran will
stop that. And if they don't, they don't get the benefits of the bargain. John.
Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Many of the colleagues that you served with in the U.S.
Senate and Republican Conference have criticized this deal over the last 24 hours. What is your
message, Mr. Vice President, back to that? So I guess I would say to anybody, any of the critics,
is number one, have a little bit of faith in the President of the United States. The idea
that he is going to strike a deal that's been bad for the American people, it's preposterous.
He is the person who's had the courage to fundamentally transform our relationship with Iran
and with a lot of other countries over the last year and a half. He believes in this deal.
He is going to see it to completion. And if the Iranians don't comply, we still have every single
tool and point of leverage that we have today. That'd be message number one is have a little
faith in the president's ability, given that he's got us this far to take us the final step.
The second thing that I would say is so many of what I've read or heard that people believe
about this deal is just fundamentally untrue. It is a memorandum of understanding. It is
fundamentally a principle that, yes, the Straits of Hormoos are going to be open immediately,
and they already are, yes, they're going to give up their highly enriched material, but they've got
to actually do it. It's about confidence.
It's about rewarding good conduct and punishing bad conduct, which in some ways is what we've been doing for the last three months vis-a-vis that country anyway.
So so many of the criticisms, I saw Lindsey Graham came out with a positive statement after expressing some concerns.
I think that when people get to understand not just the agreement, but are negotiating posture as a country,
they will realize this is an excellent thing for the American people, but that's part of our job.
We've got to tell the story about what this means for Americans, how it's going to make all of us safer and more
prosperous. That's why I'm here talking to everybody and we're going to keep on telling that story
in the days and weeks to come. Go ahead. Thank you, sir. Jordan Conranson with the gateway point.
I want to talk back to the Lebanon component. Sure. There's a report in Axios that Netanyahu's
fuming over this. He doesn't, Israel doesn't feel bound to the MOU as it relates to Lebanon.
If as you mentioned, your frustration with Israel is real striking in Beiru in a apartment
buildings, if that continues, could it torpedo the deal?
And what would the U.S.'s response be to a broader war in Lebanon involving the
headquarter?
Yeah, well, I don't want to get into hypotheticals that could torpedo the deal, because
I think the president's expectation is that all of our friends, the Israelis, the Arabs
in the region, we're going to work together and actually see this deal to completion.
Now, I saw the Axios report, you know, that Netanyahu is fuming.
That's not reflective of the conversations that I've had with him.
but maybe he's saying something to somebody else that he's not saying to me.
What I will say, and this does bother me, is that you've seen people within BB's cabinet
who have come out and attack the deal and in some ways very personally attacked the President of the United States.
And I guess my message to them would be twofold.
Number one, Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world
who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time.
and he happens to be the head of state of the world's superpower.
If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government,
I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.
And the second message I would give to some of those cabinet members,
BB, to his credit, has not gone down this path,
but to some of these cabinet members in Israel who are attacking the President of United States,
the other thing that I would say is that over the last three months,
two-thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected
your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars.
The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump. And anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem
is the President of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation
that country is in. Thank you all.
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