The Benny Show - 🚨 Trump ANNOUNCES Vice President Pick, DESTROYS CNN DeSantis-Haley Debate with Guest Vivek Ramaswamy

Episode Date: January 11, 2024

Donald Trump reveals he has chosen his VP, Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley battle it out at CNN debate , and Vivek Ramaswamy Joins The Show Check Out our partners: Patriot Mobile: Go to https://www.PatriotMobile.com/Benny and get FREE Activation Allegiance Gold: Go to http://www.protectwithbenny.com/ and get up to $5,000 in free silver with a qualifying purchase Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. My name is Benny Johnson. Today is Thursday, January 11th, 2024. Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley battled out on a CNN debate that was watched by nobody and that looked a lot more like a parent-teacher conference, to be quite honest. Donald Trump reveals he has chosen his vice president and that revenge shall be the dish served cold for his administration. We'll get into everything that happened last night

with the Donald Trump town hall, right? Wasn't really a debate, town hall. And the new thing that Fox News is doing with Donald Trump, that's going to be so interesting. Vivek Ranswami joins the show from the campaign trail in Iowa. My name is Benny Johnson, and this is The Benny Show. We are out here. This is our live. We were live for more than three hours last night. We were excited to be there for you. We are out here for you, and we have some big things coming. We shall be – I think we shall be going to Iowa, actually.

We've been invited to go to Iowa to go and see the inside of the caucus process and to go in bed with – actually cover a number of different things that are happening there. And so we'll be taking this show, I think, to Iowa. Why not? That's what's so fun when you have your own show. When you run your own show, it's like, let's go to Iowa. Let's go. Let's go to Iowa.

Pull up the plane. I don't have a plane. I don't have a plane. But I'd like to, it's fun. It's fun to say that, right? As I stand there at the American Airlines gate. Seat C38. But hey, ladies and gentlemen,

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Let's just go to Iowa And we do pick up the phone and call a bunch of people running for president Like, let's go to Iowa, and they're like, yeah, totally come to Iowa. Patriot Mobile keeps us connected so that we can do things like this, right? It's imperative that we have good cell phone service and they are the ones that we trust. Go to patriotmobile.com slash Benny today or call 972-PATRIOT. Get free activation when you use the offer code Benny. Join me today. Make the switch. Patriotmobile.com slash Benny. PatriotMobile.com slash Benny. Stay connected with us. Ladies and gentlemen, free speech is what Patriot Mobile is about. Free speech is what we're about. Free speech is what last night was about. And Donald Trump

was very interesting last night because Donald Trump was not what he was during the CNN town hall. A couple of months ago, there was a CNN town hall. It's very interesting to watch sort of the differences. And there was this, we hope that you joined us live last night, Fox News, Donald Trump town hall, plus the CNN, Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis, parent-teacher conference that was happening on the other network. And then Vivek Rajwan was also live on Tim Pool's show. And so we covered it all last night, but it's very interesting as you observe these things to see two or three different things. Okay. So number one, Donald Trump did not act deeply aggressively towards Fox. Fox on the other turn did not attack Donald Trump, which they've been known to do. So Brett Baier and Martha McCallum are like Mr.

and Mrs. like fussy McFussy pants. Oh, Donald Trump, he's the threat to democracy. And also he's a threat to all of our socialite parties and all of our cocktail parties, right? Brett Baier, Martha McCallum, and I'm trying to dunk on them, but they're definitely not pro-Trump anchors at Fox. And Fox has a couple of pro-Trump anchors. Greg Gottfeld is a good example. And Jesse Waters is another good example. But they don't ever ask those people to moderate a debate. Fox News never had Tucker Carlson moderate a debate. Tucker Carlson worked at Fox for a decade. Tucker Carlson never moderated a single debate. So enraging, actually. So irritating, actually. And so silly. Because we'd love to have Tucker Carlson moderate a debate, right? But nonetheless, they picked two anchors that don't really like Donald Trump at all,

but the anchor stayed out of it. And that's what I thought was very interesting last night. So the anchors weren't like, but Mr. President, you incited an erection. You're inciting an erection to me right now. Like they didn't do that. They didn't do that. Fox News was very hands off, very gloves off, super positive, a positivist view for from Fox and a change in tone because Fox has been very

like rabidly anti-Trump, to be quite honest. You could describe as many of their broadcasts. And so, you know, and also getting rid of people like Tucker and Dan Bongino, who had shows on Fox just not too long ago, who were big time pro-Trump. And so it is a shift. There's been a tactical change for Fox News. What I find very interesting and what makes us so unbelievably cucked and so unbelievably weak as a movement is that we don't take the people who speak on behalf of us, the Dan Bonginos of the world, the Tucker Carlsons of the world, the Bennys of the world, right?

If I may be so bold. Like I would love to moderate a debate someday. I got years of work to do, right? But I would love to have this show moderated. Why not? Why shouldn't we? Like we work every single day. We show up and we grind for hours and hours and hours live

a week or sometimes hours a day, like grind, hit the road. Like we do our best to make sure that we're connected with our audience and connected with the base. So why shouldn't we moderate a debate? Like, don't we have, don't we know more about what the Republican base wants? Isn't that the point? Like to speak on behalf of the Republican voters out there and conservatives and just like freedom-minded people and then to like live inside of some like some some orbit so like i'd have nothing against brett bear i've met brett bear a couple times super nice to me but bro that dude is worth tens of millions of dollars that guy is rich he just sold his house in dc for 40 million dollars it was public you know public public information

like does brett bear actually speak on behalf of Republicans? Oh, he lives in a different universe. And so, like, it'd be nice to get a Tucker Carlson to moderate a debate. The left has absolutely no problem putting rabid, lunatic level frothing at the mouth, screechy activists on stage with guys like Donald Trump. They did so actually just a few months ago. Donald Trump agreed to a CNN town hall, which was really Donald Trump come on stage at our town hall with an activist named Kate Land Collins, a screechy, visceral, frothing at the mouth, anti-Trump activist, and then get interrupted for 90 straight minutes, 120 straight minutes, which is exactly what happened. Why do Republicans agree to this? I don't know. This was this was the I'm going to show you the difference right between the two debates.

This was what Donald Trump this was the Donald Trump'm going to show you the difference right between the two debates this was what donald trump this was the donald trump that showed up to the cnn debate watch back to what happened on that day you said you did not say that he has testified that he did not say that but you said you weren't very involved that day you did tell your supporters to come to washington you tweeted about it about that speech that happened on the rally am i allowed to say that when they went to the capitol and they were breaking into the capitol smashing windows injuring police officers why did you why did it take you three hours to tell them to go home? I don't believe it did. Oh, let me pull it out. I have to pull it out. Can you mind? I would like for you to answer. OK, it's very simple to answer.

I asked it. It's very simple to you're a nasty person i'll tell you can you answer why i gotta pull it out i gotta wait did did all did everybody collectively gasp when you if you were watching that live maybe the last time you've ever watched cnn live you ever said hey honey how do i get to cnn remote i was doing that i remember that moment i was watching that with you and is it what how do I get to CNN remote? I was doing that. I remember that moment. I was watching that with you. And I said, wait, how do we watch CNN? Hold on. Let's figure this out. Donald Trump.

Oh, I've got to whip it. Do I have to whip it out? I've got to whip it out. You're a nasty woman, he says to Caitlin Collins. That was a very fierce and ferocious Donald Trump and was very, very different than the Donald Trump that we saw last night. So there were two tactical changes, right? So instead of the rabid anti-Trump

moderators, like sitting there and, you know, spitting bile in Trump's face the whole time, but you're an insurrectionist, sir. Like instead of that, it's so degrading that we even have to expect that on Fox as well. We got the moderators backing off and literally not really inserting themselves or their own editorial in the process at all, which was awesome, which was great. And a huge round of applause for Fox News for like pulling the dogs back and being like, just let the man talk, right? Don't interrupt him, as you saw there with Kate Lance Collins on CNN. Activist, not reporter, not journalist, like hardened left-wing activist. Effectively, like she is campaigning for a spot on The View, right? That's the next career move for Kate Lance Collins, like The View host. Donald Trump would have been as as better served getting interviewed by Whoopi Goldberg.

So the debate moderators stayed the hell out of it and just let regular Iowans talk to Trump. Some of them love Trump. Some of them didn't like Trump. It was very much better conversation. I think you would agree to Donald Trump was very, very presidential. Donald Trump was chill. Donald Trump was unaggressive. He didn't like pull any stunts, right? There's no paper. There's no like gotcha moment. Donald Trump was deeply presidential, deeply calm, very confident, very like very different

Trump, right? You have the campaign Trump. You have sort of like Trump all over, like whatever they fed Trump before he went on stage, give him that meal every time. And I really loved seeing it. Donald Trump was asked a couple of questions that could be seen as needling, right? The dictator question, the retribution question. I am your retribution, Donald Trump said.

But listen to the way that he answered it in like actually quite a genuflecting and genteel manner. This was the Trump we got last night. Watch. Well, first of all, a lot of people would say that that's not so bad. Look what they did. Russia, Russia, Russia, hoax, the FBI, Twitter hoax, the 51 intelligence agents, hoax, all of these different hoaxes that they did. I mean, you know, a lot of people would say that's probably quite normal. I'm not going to have time for retribution. We're going to make this country so successful again. I'm not going to have time for retribution. And remember this, our ultimate retribution is success. Our ultimate retribution is success. Wow. Look at this hair. Can you guys tell that we were live

till midnight last night? Come home, like, come home, like hit the bed. Look at that pillow hair. Wow. This is amazing. Jeez. I promise you I'm not. I promise you that I am not myself campaigning to be Donald Trump's to be Donald Trump's body double. Also, dangerous job.

That would be these days. And we'll get to Donald Trump's VP pick, Tucker Carlson, being a guy who said that they're out to assassinate Donald Trump because they can't stop him anymore. And I think this is why you're seeing this. This is why you're seeing this demeanor for Donald Trump, because it's it's kind of in the bag. Right. Like we'll get to polling here in just a second. But it's like it's Donald Trump is in such a commanding position and his position is getting stronger, not just on his Republican opponents because LOL, but on on Joe Biden. It's becoming panic time for Joe Biden. I mean, we covered earlier in the week.

The real president, Barack Obama, is having to book meetings with the courts that he installed in the White House to scream at him. This is according to The Washington Post. Barack Obama screaming at Joe Biden, like, what is wrong with you? It's so bloody interesting. But anyway, Donald Trump, with one of the better lines of the night last night, talking about, hey, like,

you people are arguing about war in Gaza, war in Ukraine. I'm the only guy that gave you no wars, right? This is the calm, in command, commander in chief to be. Go. I think he had very little chaos. I think most of the chaos was caused by the Democrats constantly going after me. And remember this. Remember that with phony Russia, Russia, Russia. I mean, if you look at Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, everything was phony. The Pfizer warrants, the uh lying to congress they had chaos they were the ones that caused the chaos we didn't have chaos we got the biggest tax cuts in history the biggest regulation cuts in history i had no wars i'm the only president in 72 years i didn't

have any wars and come on baby people were like going like this in the audience. Very calm, very genteel Trump and Fox News making a huge change. Fox News, not no longer major sea change at Fox. Fox News no longer like we're going to get them this time. Gotcha. Donald Trump. Does the career destroy? Like no more of that from Fox. It was really neat to see.

And those Brett Baer and Mark McCallum are the two anchors who would totally pull that kind of stuff. But sir, aren't you a racist? Like it's so it's so old. It's so embarrassed. Aren't you Hitler? It's so embarrassing at this point. Donald Trump is as somebody who knows his inner orbit really well and somebody I don't

pretend to be his best friend or to like be able to pick up a phone call and call him. But we do know a lot of the people who operate around Donald Trump, like the way you get business deals done is bringing people back into the, like going to war with them, winning that war and then bringing them back into the fold. Right. And like, like acquisitions, okay. Mergers, acquisitions, conquest is what you'd call it in the field of war. And this is a battlefield. And yesterday, one of the larger looked like he was like holding a bunch of people at a senior citizen center hostage and announced that he's no longer running for president. And Donald Trump reacted to that by saying, hey, listen, come join my campaign. Very interesting tact for a guy who's like Chris Christie was clearly just running a campaign media fund campaign against Donald Trump. Trump being like, join the party, pal.

This is a very interesting tie in to what's about to happen with Trump's VP pick. Watch. But, you know, Chris Christie was in and he got a hot mic I heard about. I thought actually the biggest story wasn't the fact that he dropped out. Nobody cared too much about that. But he had a hot mic where he was talking to somebody about the weather and he happened to say that she doesn't have what it takes. She'll be creamed in the in the election. And I mean, I know her very well and I happen to believe that Chris Christie is right. That's one of the few things he's been right about, actually. So you don't think it changes the dynamic much?

I don't know if it does or not. So Donald Trump missing. Very rare miss for Donald Trump saying that Nikki Haley is going to get creamed and not making a joke about Kris Krispy Kreme would have been so easy, would have been so easy. Now, what is he talking about there, saying that Nikki Haley is going to get creamed, going to get smoked, actually? Well, Kris Krispy, who has this unbelievable capacity to be just so unintentionally funny. He's like an unintentionally really funny guy. I'm sad that Chris Christie dropped out because he's hilarious. And it's like funny to watch. And I wanted, we had a pitch in with his campaign for me and him to go to a Krispy Kreme shop. There's Krispy Kremes all over Iowa. Like come to a Krispy Kreme shop with me.

Let's sit down, big plate of glazed donuts. I'll eat them with you, right? And we'll do a big interview. That was my pitch to him. Will it ever happen? I don't know. The offer still stands, Krispy. But Krispy, yesterday, while he was preparing

to leave the presidential race, his mic was live, which is always a big no-no. His mic was live. And so during the live feed waiting slate, right? So the event will begin soon. You could hear Chris Christie talking backstage about how

and just destroying Nikki Haley and destroying Ron DeSantis. Watch. People don't want to hear it, Wayne. They don't want to hear it. We know we're right, but they don't want to hear it. And there's, you know,'t want to hear it right and and there's you know we couldn't have been any clearer right we couldn't have been any more any more director worked any harder so you know forget she spent 68 million yeah well when you give land to china

and places like that yeah that's what you get yeah yeah i mean look she spent 68 million so far just on tv spent 68 million so far, just on TV. Spent 68 million so far, 59 million by DeSantis. And we spent 12. Who's punching above their weight and who's getting a return on their investment? You know, and she's going to get smoked. And you and I both know it. She's not up to this. She hasn't even checked.

She's still 20 points behind Trump in the nature, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And he's still going to carry out, right? Yes. Always. I talk to DeSantis? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And he's still going to carry on, right? Yes. Oh, he's... I talked to... DeSantis called me.

Petrified that I would... He's probably getting out after Iowa. DeSantis called me petrified. Nikki Haley's going to get smoked. She's not up to this. Oh, Chris. Chris Christie dropped out yesterday.

A sad little event. And it was a sad little race. I mean, he never got above like two or three percent in the polling. So obviously a failed campaign and a campaign that was run just for like just just TDS. Right. Chris Christie was there just to sort of try and take a piece off out of out of trump didn't work donald trump was like i don't mind chris chrissy i like him i like him and so it was a night like that for trump it was this like very interesting like bring new people and old names

back into the fold kind of night trump said i call her beautiful hillary at one point speaking of hillary clinton now it was all made in jest it was all made in joke the audience laughed but talking about like exactly how much better hillary clinton would have been for joe biden right like going hard in at joe biden the thing they are never going to allow trust me mark my words thing they will never allow is joe biden to take a debate stage with donald trump donald trump peak of his game uh joe biden uh not peaking at all i don't think he would even get a peak if you were to hook him up to a heart monitor i don't think there'd even be a bleep bleep i don't think you'd even get a pulse donald trump on beautiful hillary what's he doing here watch go with it But you do also have to put in

there a little bit. You have to win elections. But if it weren't for me with Roe v. Wade, you wouldn't even be talking about this. You wouldn't be asking that question because we'd write. I remember this. They're the radicals. We're not the radicals because they'll kill a baby. Remember, I had the debate with crooked Hillary Clinton, which I don't call it crooked anymore. Use it now for Joe Biden, as you know. I call her beautiful Hillary. She's a beautiful woman. But but in the debate with with Hillary Clinton, I said they said, you know, she's willing to rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month. And, you know, I never heard this. It happened to me. It just came to me during that debate. I didn't go up there thinking I was going to say that. And she even winced. Nobody wants to see that happening after a certain period of time. Nobody. They're the radical is that they are going to run really hard on Roe v. Wade, obviously, abortion, child sacrifice, and that they are going to then run really hard against Trump.

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Shoes, because they have nothing else to run on. They have nothing else to run on. Donald Trump's in court today again in New York. They're going to try and bring cases against him. All those cases are now crumbling and are getting really clogged down in the mud. We're going to talk about the Fannie Willis case here in just a moment. It's going to be that. I mean, that now that is the crime of the century that pales in comparison to what's going on with Hunter Biden. The fact that every single prosecutor that went

after Donald Trump had private meetings, our our like multiple hour long meetings with White House staff before they brought their prosecutions. Who, baby? And now the argument that you can't have executive immunity for your actions as president. It really it now does quite literally become like a life or political death situation for Democrats to win in 2024, because now Joe Biden can be held accountable for 10 million accounts of human trafficking, which is what he did on the border. Day one, you should charge Joe Biden, obviously, with the with the electoral election rigging corruption and lawfare against Donald Trump. But then like second and probably more important charge is what Joe Biden's done with

our border. Ten million cases of human trafficking should be filed against Joe Biden on day one by a Trump Department of Justice, led by Kash Patel, I think, right? That would be maybe my suggestion. Donald Trump saying deportations is going to be the top priority of his next administration watch. We have millions and millions of people here. It is not sustainable. Did you see in New York City with it getting the regular students out and they're putting migrants in their place? We are going to have the largest deportation effort in the history of our country. We're bringing everybody back to where they came from. We have no choice. We have no choice. Well, I mean, that's promise. He did build 500 miles of wall on a 2000 mile border.

So, I mean, he didn't in spite of all the sabotage and speaking of sabotage from the Republican side, Donald Trump on fancy shoes, Ron DeSantis. We'll get to that in just a second. But, you know, despite all the sabotage, he did end up building the wall. It's not being enforced or protected. I've gone and seen the border wall. We've taken our show down to the border wall a couple of times. It is a big, beautiful wall. So the deportation process, what will that look like? Ooh, baby. We'll see. Get ready for wild, wild times.

Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump talking about Ron DeSantis. Obviously, this has been a sore issue for Donald Trump. Ron DeSantis probably got it the worst, worse than Nikki Haley last night from Donald Trump, talking about his fancy shoes. But then also noting that Ron DeSantis will probably drop out after Iowa. That's what we've been hearing

and endorse Donald Trump. That's what we've been hearing, that Ron DeSantis after Iowa, which the Iowa caucuses are on Monday, that Ron DeSantis will drop out and then endorse Trump. And we'll try and like, try and like,

like rebuild the bridge. Now, will that work for you? Will that work for the Republican base? Knowing what we know about Donald Trump, Donald Trump would be like all is forgiven. Right. We'll see. We'll see. He's going to need a united front to go against the demonic machine that is like quite clearly attempting to fortify once again their election uh right now the reason why joe biden is uh getting screamed at in the white house by barack obama uh but we'll see here's what here's trump on fancy shoes to stances last night he's going to be out of the race very soon he's going to be out very soon you know i watched him last night he's standing up with his

shoes his fancy shoes uh and he's going to be out of the race within, you know, a lot of people say before, before New Hampshire. Before New Hampshire. What does that mean? Iowa. So the word on the street is that DeSantis does drop out. He spent a whole lot of money, as Chris Christie said on the hot mic, and that DeSantis drops out before Iowa. And then what happens next? Well, what happens next is Donald Trump begins to build out a cabinet because then effectively there is no more competition against Donald Trump. The competition against Donald Trump is the middling. Can we put up the polls? Do you have that real clear politics poll? Let's do the Republican, the Republican primary poll right now.

You can see in the recent polls, no one's even able to crack like 10% against Trump. So once you lose the people that can even crack into the double digits, which Nikki Haley's been in double digits, depending on the poll, Ron DeSantis has been in double digits, depending on the poll. Once you get rid of those, the race is effectively done. You know that I like Vivek. We've had a fun working relationship with Vivek, right? But the race is done, okay? So here it is.

Can we zoom in on that, please? And you can see here, Donald Trump obviously very steadily and in a very healthy manner gaining. This is total national polls. And you can see Haley and DeSantis muddling around the 10% mark. Nobody is able to crack 10% against Trump. Trump at 60%, right? And so the only hope is DeSantis either in Iowa. DeSantis has done a bunch of work in Iowa. But if he doesn't win in Iowa, he's got the endorsement of the governor and everything. If he doesn't win in Iowa,

it's finished, right? Nikki Haley in New Hampshire, that's the next great hope. Nikki Haley doesn't do well in New Hampshire, as Chris Christie's on the hot mic saying, right, in New Hampshire. Boom. Then it's done. Then it becomes about the, like, it becomes Trump's party. It already is, but it becomes like the Trump administration marching forward. And this is the biggest news out of last night. The biggest news out of last night the biggest news out of last night ron de sanchez has been asked if he would take the vp spot and ron sanchez said flatly no

as for ron sanchez administration for as a florida and as a florida resident hey ron you got a state to run down here would love to have you back you know what i mean like this is where my kids are being raised would very much like to have your attention. You're a very good governor. I'd like to have your attention back down here. Thank you. Like, speaking on behalf of a father of three who moved down here, because of your policies, I'm proud to say we're, Ron DeSantis, inarguably either the most effective or one of the top three most effective Republican governors in my lifetime. Right?

So if you're a Florida resident, you know, if you want to move to Florida, you know, you can see the results down here. Like, please come back and focus on the state. That's very important. Ron Sanders won't be VP. Nikki Haley, will she be VP? Well, let me tell you what, Donald Trump made huge news last night, I think probably the most newsworthy moment of the night, when Donald Trump said said the VP selection has already been made. It's done. It's finished. Huh? Whoa. I mean, again, normally this is something that happens like in the summer, like the VP, like who will become vice president? Like that's something that heats up after like you've locked up and clinched the process. But I bet you could see a VP announcement like in February for Donald Trump then.

Like once everyone drops out. So who's it going to be? Check out this clip and I'll tell you what we know, what we found out in a series of late night phone calls last night. Watch. Who would be in the running for vice president? Well, I can't tell you that really. I mean, I know who it's going to be. Give us a hint. I'll give you, we'll do

another show sometime. Well, what about any of the people who you've run against? Would you be open to mending fences with any of them? Oh, sure, I will. I will. I've already started like Christie better. Christie for vice president? I don't see it. I don't see it. That would be an upset.

Christie for vice president. Gentlemen, I'd like to announce. Now, I do want to get to this other question before. Do you hear the audience go, boo? No, no. Chris Christie. I have I have a soft I have a soft spot in my in my heart for Chris Christie. He's funny. He's a funny person. I've done some interviews with Chris Christie, not this election cycle. He's a funny person. And he's like rabidly anti-Trump. And that's because of personal animus.

He thought he was gonna get a big time fat position in Trump's administration. They were so mean to him too when he dropped out. Breitbart went with the GOP field is thinning because Chris Christie dropped out oh man okay the babylon b said that chris christie is uh uh chris christie is uh dropping out to spend more time with his um uh family size bucket of chicken or something like that like oh come on guys come on come on but you can see donald trump i already like i already like ch Christie better for VP. Here's the part that is a tell, okay?

So this is a, here's the tell. I just wanted you to watch. I never replay clips on the show, but I do want you to watch. I do want you to watch the first like 10 seconds of this interaction, because I believe this shows you who Donald Trump has already picked.

We're going to replay this clip. Clip A, please, Royce. This is this will tell you everything. Look at how Donald Trump interacts with the Fox News hosts. Who would be in the running for vice president? Well, I can't tell you that, really. I mean, I know who it's going to be. Give us a hint.

I'll give you we'll do another show sometime. What about any of the people who you've run against? Would you be? We'll do another show sometime. Oh, oh, you're going to like this. You're going to like this. Donald Trump says to Fox News, what does that tell you? We'll do a show sometime about it. What does that tell you? Well, who just had a show on Fox News canceled? Who is someone who's been reported in the corporate press as Melania's favorite news show that she's watched and her favorite anchor? Who's been reported in the press is the person that Melania is actively asking Donald Trump

to name his vice president. Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson. Now, is that the best pick? Well, hot damn. Last night, people thought it really was the best pick. And as we've gone through and made a number of phone calls late into the evening, I was up till like two o'clock in the morning, just chit-chatting with some people. It's become quite clear to me that that's where the energy is. It's come quite clear to me that that is just a feeling. I would be lying to you if I told you that somebody told me, yes, it is Tucker Carlson. That's the pick. But I'd also be lying to you if I told you that that is not like absolutely in contention.

And like quite literally, like the thing that is being like worked on behind the scenes the most. That's what I found out last night. Very, very interesting stuff. Now, Donald Trump's been dropping these breadcrumbs for a long time. Donald Trump was asked directly, are you going to pick Tucker Carlson? Check it out. Would you consider Tucker Carlson on your VP list? I want to give you a hypothetical here.

You're a big sports fan. You know, like Nick Saban's going to retire at some point. And if you talk to the athletic director at Alabama, he would say he has a list. So would Tucker Carlson be on your list of potential VPs? And how many names might be on that list as you sit and look and survey the political field? Well, first of all, you know, I did my first, you could call it counter-programming, but I won't call it that. But Tucker wanted to do an interview during the first debate. And I think, you know, because this is what your business is. We broke every record monster in history. Yeah, I think it just hit over 300 million people. Talk about it. Would you consider Tucker, though, that they based on that?

I like Tucker a lot. I guess I would. I think I'd say I would, because he's got great common sense. You know, when they say that you guys are conservative or I'm conservative, it's not that we're conservative. We have common sense. So you have two guys, Tucker and Trump, that are in the public eye all the time that are going around saying the same thing about each other. Tucker Carlson asked if he would be Donald Trump's VP. Check this out. Where am I on Trump now? I love Trump. Personally, I think we're going to see Trump's emergence as as the most significant thing to happen in American politics in 100 years because he reoriented the Republican Party against the wishes of Republican leaders.

But when I think about Trump right now, so it's July of 2023, you know, I'm struck by his foreign policy views. You know, Trump is the only person with stature in the Republican Party, really, who's saying, wait a second, you know, why are we supporting an endless war in Ukraine? And that, you know, leaving aside whether Trump's going to get the nomination or get elected president or would be a good president, you know, I can't even assess that. All I can say at this point is I'm so grateful that he has that position. He's right. And everyone in Washington is wrong. Everyone. And Trump is right on that question. Come on. What a thing to say. Donald Trump is right,

and everyone in Washington is wrong. Well, doesn't that sound like someone who's interested in being vice president? I can tell you this, that during interviews with Tucker that we've done live and during a wonderful dinner that we had with Tucker over the break, myself, my family, actually just, just my son,

that we were able to have a very long dinner with Tucker. And it's really neat to talk shop about a bunch of stuff. Like his views hasn't changed on that, right? Like not to betray any private conversation, but like what he says, he's an authentic man. What he says in public is what he says in private is who he is in public is who he is in private. It was like sitting through like a three hour long

private dinner, private like Tucker Carlson's night show. It's like amazing. It's the same. It's, like, amazing. It's the same. It's so refreshing when, like, the people are the same, where they're the same people, right? In front of the scenes and behind the scenes. It's awesome. It's awesome. So what I'm telling you, and I would tell you if somebody has definitively told me, it's Tucker. What I'm telling you is I'm getting a feeling we're noticers. We're big time noticers on this program. Like that's our superpower. We're alive. We pay attention. So here's Tucker Carlson being asked about this directly by Roseanne. Check out the answer. What do you think? I certainly support Trump. I'll tell you that.

And I can tell you, I mean, i've always agreed with trump's policies always and i lost friends over it um but and i've never really actively supported anybody because it's not my job to actively support people i watch you know i like to watch um but i'm a voyeur yeah but i became an active trump supporter when they raided mar-a-lago last summer the summer of 2022 that that's just that can't stand. No, that can't. And I agree with Trump on a lot, but even if I disagreed with Trump on a lot, I'd still be a Trump supporter because you cannot allow that.

You cannot allow the regime, the president of the United States to use the Justice Department to knock the front runner out of the race. You can't do that. No, you can't do that. So it's bigger than Trump. It's bigger than Biden.

It's a question of, do you want to live in a free country with a functioning justice system you know that's exactly and so i'm voting for trump and if they convict him i will send him the max donations and i will lead protests that's how i feel that's how i feel because and by the way if i thought that he had committed some real crime i wouldn't feel that way but he didn't he and biden are both found with classified documents at home along with every other former high-level federal official in history, but only Trump is indicted. Like, tell me how that works. Oh, shut up. Everyone in D—OK, so let's stack the evidence here. Everyone in D.C. is wrong, and Donald Trump is right. Everyone in D.C. is wrong, and Donald Trump is right, Tucker says.

And then Tucker goes on to say, I'll lead protests for Donald Trump. Well, I mean, is this your ticket? Come on. I mean, like, are you ready for this, America? Let me know in the comment section. Like, fire off in the comment section. Trump, Tucker, that's got to be the bumper sticker. Trump, Tucker, 2024. Are you prepared for this? I would tell you if I had definitive knowledge. I would tell you if the people that I'm speaking with say anything other than the audio that I can play for you here that they've said in public and on podcasts. I know this about Tucker.

He doesn't desire or demand. He doesn't desire power. He's lived in Washington, D.C. for a long time, could have absolutely done a campaign for himself years ago, could have created a situation where he could run for office. And he's famous enough and he's powerful enough to have done that he didn't and so it wouldn't be about that but honestly quite frankly like sometimes like oftentimes and almost always the best leaders are the reluctant leaders they can see things clearly they can connect with people in a way that um those who are just craven for power and desirous of power, jealous for power and like searching and seething for power that like that you sense that on a spiritual level, right? Tucker, on the other hand, is just a man of the people. This is Tucker Carlson walking into the UFC event in Madison Square Garden.

Just a reminder that this was this was inside of the bluest area in America, arguably the most Democrat area in America. You have Tucker Carlson howling with laughter behind Donald Trump to the roaring cheers of 35,000 people in an arena. How kick-ass is this? Kid Rock's obviously there. Don Jr.'s there. You can see Dana White there too. But this is what transcends politics. would happen if joe biden tried to walk into a place like that what would happen then it wouldn't you know obviously wouldn't go the same way we had tucker carlson uh live on a on a x space right which is kind of like a you know the ability you say like a if you're not familiar with the x with the x platform it's just being able to ask people questions on like what's more like a radio interview.

Right. There's no video component involved, but it's a really neat way to listen to conversations live. And so I asked him directly, Melania wants you as VP. Here's his answer. Here we go. Tucker there. I'm sitting here looking at an article right now from Axios, and this article says that Melania Trump wants you to be the vice presidential candidate for Donald Trump with Donald Trump in 2024. What do you say to Melania Trump? Well, she hasn't texted me that, and it's in a publication published in Washington. So I'm going to kind of reserve judgment on that. Obviously I'm flattered if it's true. I like Melania. I don't really know her, but she's Eastern European.

So that suggests we have exactly the same attitudes about everything. So I'm flattered. Have you ever heard him say no? Have you heard him say no? I mean, I haven't heard him say no. Tucker Carlson suggested someone else for VP before. We're going to give you as clear of a picture as we can here. I'm talking about a feeling. I'm talking about like our job is to absorb energy.

Tucker Carlson said maybe Vivek would make a great VP. And I would tend to agree, actually. Here. I mean, I but the case I kind of like Vivek would make a great VP. And I would tend to agree, actually. Here. I mean, I but the case I kind of like Vivek. I think he's one of those people who everyone beats up on Vivek for being he's a phony and all this stuff. I don't know. I've covered a lot of campaigns going back to 1992. And I've noticed this thing in many candidates.

And I notice it in him the process the process of running for president and speaking three times a day and having people throw hostile questions in your face causes you to change they all change during these campaigns like for real inside and i feel like vivek's positions have gotten much more sincere since the beginning it's like he i watch him with nikki hale and i'm like this is a guy who's very offended by her views, like for real. He's not attacking her because she's a woman. He's attacking her because he actually thinks her views are terrible for the country he lives in. And I love that. So what do you think? Tucker Carlson has said Donald Trump is the only right person in Washington and everyone else is wrong.

He said he'd lead protests for Donald Trump. Tucker Carlson and Trump are obviously very, very close. You can see here them at a golf championship at one of Donald Trump's clubs chanting, let's go, Brandon, together. Again, howling with laughter. Here you go. you've you've never seen that clip on cnn or fox news but you'll see it on this program because that's the energy, man. That's the energy. And Tucker and Trump laughing, Tucker and Trump like together and bringing people together. I don't know. Throw up that photo of them laughing or them at the event.

It's great. I mean, I think it's great. They obviously have a wonderful working relationship and as we posited last night at the end of the show when we brought on our all-star panel tucker carlson could do his show from the vice president's office he just do his show as vp he could do a nightly show there from one observatory circle in washington dc uh the Naval Observatory where the vice president lives. He just turned that into a he just turned that into a show. I just happened to have the the JFK files that I marched over to the CIA and told them to give me here. Here, I'm going to read them to you live at the classified UFO files.

I mean, how awesome would that be? Boy can dream, right? We don't have to dream, however, to see how neat it would be to have a crossover event with Tucker and Trump. There's been an ad, unofficial as far as I know, unofficial ad with Tucker Carlson monologuing for Donald Trump in campaign ad form. And I feel like even though this wasn't produced directly by the Trump campaign, it is the most powerful message for Donald Trump. It brought chills to me the first time I saw it. It is one of the most convincing ads, political ads I've ever seen, even though it was put together not by the campaign. Tucker Carlson as a narrator for Trump's message and Trump as the tip of the spear.

Please watch the most convincing campaign ad I've ever seen. Go. Millions of Americans sincerely love Donald Trump. They love him in spite of everything they've heard. They love him often in spite of himself. They love Donald Trump because no one else loves them. The country they built, the country their ancestors fought for over hundreds of years, has left them to die in their unfashionable little towns, mocked and despised by the sneering halfwits with finance degrees,

but no actual skills who seem to run everything all of a sudden. Whatever Donald Trump's faults, he is better than the rest of the people in charge. At least he doesn't hate them for their weakness. Donald Trump, in other words, is and has always been a living indictment of the people who run this country. That was true four years ago when Trump came out of nowhere to win the presidency. And it's every bit as true right now. Trump rose because they failed. It's as simple as that.

If the people in charge had done a halfway decent job with the country they inherited, if they cared about anything other than themselves, even for just a moment, Donald Trump would still be hosting Celebrity Apprentice. But they didn't. Instead, they were incompetent and narcissistic and cruel and relentlessly dishonest. They wrecked what they didn't build. They lied about it. They hurt anyone who told the truth about what they were doing. That's

true. We watched. America is still a great country, the best in the world. But our ruling class is disgusting. A vote for Trump is a vote against them. That's what's going on in this country. It's inspiring. It's inspiring. Can you punch in a little bit on this photo it's inspiring and they're clearly they're clearly having a donald trump and tucker carlson are both energy guys they're they're men who absorb energy and who make decisions based on their guts. And what's right. And I'm just telling you that this is what I feel. I'm also a man who notices I'm alive. I pay attention.

And I think that this is it. When Donald Trump announces that he's already made his decision and that's already done. And he looks at Fox with a smirk.'s let's load up that clip one more time he looks at Fox with a smirk and he goes we'll do another show on this it's because he knows that Tucker Carlson's name has been banned from Fox News this is just me reading the tea leaves I'm alive I notice things he's he knows that Tucker Carlson's name has been banned on Fox. Alex, can we get that clip, that funny clip of Donald Trump talking about Tucker Carlson and Fox cuts the feed? Cut the feed! Trump knows this. Fox News hosts aren't allowed to say

Tucker Carlson's name because of the very ugly breakup that Fox News created. And this is why Trump was smirking and chuckling to himself last night. Because he knows that Fox News will effectively have to give Tucker her show back. Like, like Tucker Carlson will go right back on Fox. He'll force it by making Tucker Carlson his vice president. Oh man, what incredible vindication. What a beautiful story arc that would be, ladies and gentlemen. And that's why Donald Trump says to the Fox News hosts who are like clawing and begging him, like, give us your VP choice. That's why he says, you're going to have to do another show about that. Watch.

Who would be in the running for vice president? Well, I can't tell you that, really. I mean, I know who it's going to be. Give us a hint. I'll give you we'll do another show sometime. What about any of the people who you've run against? Would you be open to mending fences with any of them? I will.

I've already started like Christie better. Christie for vice president. I don't see it. I don't see it. That would be an upset. Christie for vice president i don't see it i don't see it that would be an upset christy for vice president gentlemen i'd like to announce now i do want to get to this other question before yeah ladies and gentlemen oh there it is okay we'll we'll show you exactly why trump said that again we're alive and we notice we're alive and we notice donald trump speaking in South Carolina.

Donald Trump was talking after the Tucker Carlson interview. And the reason why you can see the tell, even in a poker player like Donald Trump, even you can see the tell, is because Tucker's name is banned on Fox. And when Donald Trump said Tucker Carlson's name, because they'd done a very successful interview, then Fox had to cut away. And Donald Trump thinks this is patently hilarious. If you pick Tucker Carlson as your VP, then Fox has to give him his show back. Come on! Watch. And we're at just about 60% already, and we're going up, and we're the only ones going up. They're going down. They're going down, down, down. They ought to stop wasting their time. You know, they're wasting a lot of time

on these ridiculous debates that nobody's watching. Their last debate was the lowest rated debate in history. That's a good compliment, isn't it? Now, what was I doing, Marjorie? I was someplace else, wasn't I? I was doing another interview we had 271 million people listening to the Tucker Carlson interview that's an old time so here we are uh back in the thick of campaign season we are now just four months away from the Iowa primaries and you see former President Trump president trump in a place where it's that great what was i doing i was on the tucker carson show cut cut the feed so good oh man it was awesome so trump knows that and he knows that that's going to bring great salt to some of the people that tried to stop him. And that's always brought Donald Trump great joy.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, there's more salt, ladies and gentlemen, that is just so good. And by the way, I'm just I'm reading a message here that Vivek is getting set up. And so Vivek Ramaswami will be joining us. And I cannot wait to ask him about this. Vivek, are you going to be VP? Is it going to be you? We'll ask in just a second. They're just getting set.

And so we have time to salt that lib before we get to Vivek Ranswami live. Salt that lib for the day. If you're, if you're new to the show, we salt a lib every single day, like a slug. And so get your salt shakers out. I want salt shakers in the comment section. Okay. Pouring through the comment section. Uh, Rolls Royce has promised me he will get me a comically sized, large salt shaker that I will put right here for the show. It'll say salt that lib on it. You can actually buy the salt that lib shirt in the, in the, uh, in the, our new store that we've just launched on the website launched on our website.

Ladies and gentlemen, Salt That Lib for the day is Mika reading through the latest polls for Donald Trump. Wait till he announces Tucker maybe as a vice presidential candidate. Wait for these polls to go up. Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump, Mika Brzezinski on MSNBC on her therapy session, sad therapy session morning show. Hysterical. She's brought to the point of tears reading Donald Trump's polls. Get out your salt shakers, ladies and gentlemen. Here is our salt that lib of the day. Mika Brzezinski crying on camera,

reading Donald Trump's most recent poll numbers. Well, caucuses, new polling shows, former President Trump making larger inroads with two key groups when compared to 2016's evangelicals and first time caucus goers. NBC News national political correspondent Steve Gornacki is with us from the big board. Steve, what are the latest polls showing us about Trump's gain with these two groups? I'm just I I'm I have no words for evangelical voters at this point. The overriding reason that Donald Trump lost Iowa in 2016 is right here. This is the exit poll from the caucuses. This is the evangelical vote. About 64 percent of the Iowa Republican electorate in 2016 was evangelical.

And look, Ted Cruz won it. He won it by double digits, 34 to 22 over Donald Trump. So Cruz with a double digit win among evangelicals. There was a lot of resistance, a lot of skepticism. Trump had some support with evangelicals, but Cruz was the candidate of evangelicals in Iowa in 2016, and he won the state. So that was 2016. Our most recent NBC News Des Moines Register poll out of Iowa. This is about a month old, but this is what we've been seeing all year among evangelicals. Look at the turnaround. Trump, who was losing by 12 to Ted Cruz, now with an outright majority, 51 percent of the evangelical vote, basically two to one over his nearest foe,

Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, barely in double digits. Fifty one percent. That tracks, by the way, with Trump in that poll, his overall support in Iowa. Trump with a fifty one point advantage over his nearest foe here, Ron DeSantis. So he's had those two groups not just change in terms of one going for him. That wasn't before they have both exploded in terms of him now just winning outright majorities. Massive landslides with both groups. It's why he's been so consistently ahead in Iowa. Wow. NBC's Steve Kornacki, thank you very much. I think we'll see a lot of you soon. Joining us now, NBC News. That's so good. Did you hear her voice crack?

Donald Trump's polling. Throw up the poll, by the way. Throw up the Trump. Let's do Trump versus Biden general election real clear politics. You can see it. Ladies and gentlemen, what she's looking at and how she's crying. It is so unbelievably salty and so delicious. And I need my sodium for the day. And so it's just wonderful, wonderful to see.

Something that wasn't wonderful to see, ladies and gentlemen, as I am being told by our producers, look at that. The red, of course, is Donald Trump gains. The blue are Biden gains. Holy schmoly. By the way, these are also the polls

that said that Joe Biden was going to win by 20 points in the year 2020. These are the polls that said that Joe Biden was going to win by 20 points. In the year 2020, these are the polls that said that we've approached the possibility of Trump being president. Zero percent. I have it framed in my office. Zero front of The Washington Post election day, November 9th, 2016. The possibility of Donald Trump becoming president is now zero percent. That was what The Washington Post ran. The front, and these are the polls they were using. And now they're showing Trump winning 350 electoral votes.

So how bad is it really? Woo, baby. How bad is it really? It was really bad last night during a single, like during the entire, during the entire debate with CNN. But there was one question that had us rolling and howling, and we got to play it. during the entire debate with CNN. But there was one question that had us rolling and howling, and we got to play it.

And we're going to ask Vivek Ranswami, who's joining the show right after this clip, about this because he's dealt with Nikki Haley. He's dealt with Ron DeSantis. He's been on debate stages with them. But this is just such an unintentionally hilarious clip of Vivek, I'm sorry, them being like effectively marriage counseled by the two snotty uh moderators and jank tamper and daniel bish at cnn like you couldn't

get more like snooty um just like about as fun as a colonoscopy two anchors on like just so pretentious a prickly these two and then the people on the debate stage were prickly and so this is the clip that's like everyone's laughing at because it does look like a like a marriage council like a like a student it looks like a parent student teacher conference where the two parents are like uh late stage getting divorced watch you have been sparring on the campaign trail for months. We've seen some vicious attack ads going back and forth. And tonight we have had a very lively debate on a different note. Governor DeSantis, let me ask you, what do you admire about Governor Haley?

Well, look, I mean, I think that, you know, at the United Nations, I did think that she she spoke out strongly on some key issues, and I appreciated that. I also appreciate the state of South Carolina. My wife is a College of Charleston graduate. Her parents lived there for many, many years, and so it is a wonderful state. There's a lot of great people there, and I think to be able to have been governor there is a great achievement, and I really appreciate everyone I've gotten to meet in South Carolina. Governor Haley, what do you admire about Governor DeSantis? I think he's been a good governor. OK.

So we're going to squeeze in another quick break and we'll be right back with more from the Republican debate. Who gets the dog and who gets the kids? Oh, my God. Joining us now, Vivek Ranswamy from the road in Iowa. Let's go, baby. I guess I'll prompt you with this. Can you say a nice thing about Nikki Haley? It's going to be one of the more challenging things I've been asked to do in this campaign, you say a nice thing about Nikki Haley?

It's going to be one of the more challenging things I've been asked to do in this campaign, Benny. So I'm going to have to think long and hard about that. I mean, Ron and Santa's praised her time at the UN. Why are we in the UN? Why are we funding the UN? And why is she praising China as our great friends? I'd have to think about it.

I usually like a go-to answer is somebody's character as a family member. but I think there are some real challenges for me to answer that question right now. But let me get back to you, Benny. That's probably the first question of this campaign that has stumped me outright. Your clips have gone thermonuclear. You're having a lot of fun by doing something that Republicans never do, which is actually turn the questions back around on the press. And you had a clip yesterday that went really viral doing that. What is that strategy? Why don't more Republicans understand that the base sees the press as the enemy, as activists? And why do we always pledge fealty and get down on our knees to do their debates and let these activists ask us questions like as moderators.

It makes no sense. It seems self-debasing. Maybe I'm wrong. Well, yes. No, I don't think you're wrong about that. I think we have become in some ways a nation of sheep. And it's up to us not to be the sheep, right? We still swallow what we're force fed. And, you know, even myself three years ago, right, I was the CEO of a company. I like to think of myself as an independent thinker, but you still consume what the media

tells you. If somebody told me that Jan 6 was an inside job back then, I would have said, oh, wait, that sounds kind of crazy. Now you get into the heart of the matter. Absolutely. It looks like it actually was the job of entrapment. And yet you say that now on CNN, they cut you off, which is exactly why the media needs to be held accountable.

And so for me, I think the missing chain is this. The two enemies are the deep state and the mainstream media. The mainstream media in an older life was supposed to hold the government accountable. They're not doing that. But who's holding the media accountable? That doesn't exist in our ecosystem. Nobody's actually holding the mainstream media accountable. I mean, things like what you're doing come to the closest thing we can see is podcasting or directly reaching people through the internet. But I think that as a presidential candidate, they're trying to pretend to hold me accountable when they're not actually doing it to the government. I just decided, you know what, let's play this game in reverse and give people the actual facts. And I think once people's eyes

are open, even people who might be, you know, centrist or on the left or whatever, but don't believe in the actual indoctrination that's happening right now in the country. People want their eyes open. And you know what? If you show somebody how they've been duped, you bring them along with the ardence of a convert. And I think that's what we need to do in this country. So why am I doing it as a presidential candidate? I think we're going to bring in a lot of people into our movement, our America First movement, in a way that we would have never happened. Because once you convert somebody to see what they never once saw, once you see it, you can't unsee it. Once you see that level of corruption about the media,

about somebody who has systematically lied to you and duped you, then that builds an allegiance to our movement that lasts. And so I think that's part of how we're gonna win this election in a landslide. And I think exposing the media is just an important element of getting there. Last night, Donald Trump said

that he has already selected his vice president. Is it you? Well, he and I haven't talked about it. So I would say this is I've also got a lot of questions here about in Iowa about whether for the people who support me, would I consider Donald Trump as my vice president? So either way, he's he's a good man. I'm a good man. I think these are the two acceptable choices for the future of our America First movement. I believe it's going to take somebody with fresh legs leading from the front. Let's see what happens here in Iowa, Benny. I think it's going to be a major surprise on Monday night. But either way, I'm in this for the country. Trump is in this for the country.

He has my support if he's the nominee, and I expect his support if I'm the nominee. I'm worried, though, there's something deeper going on, Benny, is I think that the question of who's going to be Trump's VP bakes into it a kind of, I would say, false comfort that we shouldn't have right now. I mean, again, I think what they're doing is they want to narrow this down to a two-horse race between Trump and a puppet they can control. That puppet's name is Nikki Haley. Hiding in plain sight. They want to eliminate Donald Trump and then trot in their puppet into the White House. That's how this game is being played. And so I'm refusing to sit here as a passive bystander watching that happen in front of our eyes. That's why I'm in this to the very end. And I'm going to be in this, I think

it's going to take a leader who can take that apparatus on to take our movement forward, somebody with fresh legs. And I'm in this to the very end. I expect to be the next president. I hope it's not under the conditions that I just laid out. But God forbid something happened this year. I don't want our movement to look back next January and say, hey, were we surprised that that happened? No, we're not going to have been surprised. We're going to say, what the heck were we thinking? Walking straight into that trap. And so I think if people open their eyes, last time it was a man-made pandemic. It was a rigged election, tech rigged process leading up to it. This time they're going to stop at nothing. I mean, Benny, if you think these people are just

going to let Donald Trump get back into the White House, anybody who thinks that, I would say, open your eyes. Actually understand they've been selling us the rope for a long time. They're going to use it to hang us tomorrow. These people will stop at nothing. And increasingly, I mean, nothing to keep this man away from the White House. We can't fall for their trick. Our movement didn't start in 2016. It started in 1776. And so that's why I'm in this and we're going to go the distance. So you've obviously been hitting the trail. You've been dominating in number of events. I saw the graphic was pretty really impressive, like 250 events in Iowa compared to like dozens for other candidates. And you've obviously been speaking to the people and you've probably

felt a great deal of the fear and pain that normal people have. And if you get outside your bubble, then you actually – if you leave Nantucket, if you leave Martha's Vineyard, then you actually realize that things are getting destroyed in this country at a very quick pace. And the people are – people are really starting to worry for the first time in my life about their future. Now, this is evidenced by Michelle Obama in this hilarious clip where Michelle Obama, like weepily yesterday, did a podcast where she talked about the most terrifying thing in America right now is not inflation. It's not an open border. It's not fentanyl. It's not the Chinese or ongoing multiple wars on multiple fronts. It's not the butchery that's ongoing multiple wars on multiple fronts. It's not the butchery that's happening to our children in schools.

It's Donald Trump, Michelle Obama crying. And I'd like to get your reaction to this clip. The things that keep me up because you don't have control over them and you wonder where are people, where are we in this? You know, where are our hearts? What's going to happen in this next election? I am terrified about what could possibly happen because our leaders matter. Who we select, who speaks for us, who holds that bully pulpit. It affects us in ways that sometimes I think people take for granted. It's so terrifying. That's the thing that keeps her up in Martha's Vineyard. In one of their multiple palatial mansions on the beach. Not the global warming that will, of course, consume her mansion, but that, but Donald Trump. Is that what events here in Iowa. What she's saying, oh, she's scared.

I was waiting for her to say, I'm shaking. That was her Van Jones impression, I suppose, which is what Van Jones says about me. It's what she's saying about effectively, she appears to be saying it about Trump. This is artificial. This is artificial nonsense. People in this country aren't buying it.

I do want to say one thing, actually, now that I'm watching her saying that, that it seems like, you know, a lot of people read that as she might be floating her own puppetry as the volunteer to be the puppet who they prop up. And the only thing I will say as a caveat to what I said earlier is what I think is going on in the DNC is you got the people who are propping up the establishment. They've lost their use for Joe Biden. But if they get Joe Biden out of the way, they have a Kamala Harris problem. So I think they've actually chosen to solve that by propping up Nikki Haley within the Republican primary,

get into a two-horse race, eliminate Trump one way or another, and trot in Haley. Clearly the backup plan to that is then Michelle Obama, who then solves their Kamala Harris problem because she has certain things in common with Kamala Harris that the Democratic Party needs to have as boxes that are checked for the people who they're placating and distracting with woke smoke to actually foist on them foreign wars and

surveillance state that the left used to not accept, except they now do if you put up women of color to say that they're the ones who are your spokespersons. So that's kind of the deeper game that's going on is if Nikki Haley is puppet in version 1.0 of the GOP primary doesn't work out, that's what they're playing for. Get Trump and Haley, knock out Trump, trot and Haley as puppet number one. Michelle Obama is clearly who they're cultivating as backup plan number two. Puppet number two is waiting in the wings to do it. So that's, I think, what's going on. The hot honey McCrispy is so back at McDonald's with juicy 100% Canadian raised seasoned chicken, shredded lettuce, crispy jalapenos, and that completely

craveable hot honey sauce? It's a sweet heat repeat you don't want to miss. Get your hot honey McCrispy today. Available for a limited time only at McDonald's. Going on there, but this, I'm shaking nonsense. You know, I had some views to Van Jones on that one that I shared at AmFest, and I would encourage Donald Trump or whoever else Michelle Obama is talking about to tell her much the same. Yeah. You told him to go F himself. Big time Elon Musk energy. Close to that. Close to that. Yeah. people that really are um getting completely effed as some of the dei and some of the forced racism that is happening at your at your alma mater right harvard pushed by the obamas and you're seeing some major sea changes there and you're seeing a number of woke billionaires

coming out being like i didn't know i was supporting actual racism f this not doing it anymore bill ackman who's now sounding more like a Vavake donor, to be quite honest with you. And so it's like, how do you capture that? How do you harness that? That seems to be adding quite a bit to the pressure of 2024, because the entire regime could collapse, right, if they don't get the result they need in the election. Yeah, I think that that's right. I think that's why need in the election yeah i i think that that's right i think that's why they're panicking and i think that that's why these people will increasingly stop at nothing i mean when you think you're on the moral high ground that's what leads people to ratchet up and if you think that morality your morality requires you to violate

the rules of the present then they're going to stop at nothing because it's about the higher morality to them it's a religious worldview of the modern doctrine of the regime. And so that's why they don't have to abide by the normal rules or increasingly even the normal laws, which is why I say they'll stop at nothing. Now, the Claudine Gay thing, there's so much there. I mean, everyone's talked about, myself included, the affirmative action element of this. I mean, this woman would not have gotten her job in a million years if it weren't for her genetics or race and her gender. She's, in the last 20 years written like 10 papers and zero books. I've written more books and more articles in the last

couple of years on the side while building businesses than this woman has as a post-academic for her entire career over 20 plus years. And even turns out half the articles she did write were just copy and paste of other people's articles. So she would have never gotten that job. But there's a deeper issue here that doesn't have to do with the race and gender. She was a product of bureaucracy, actually, Ben. She wasn't even somebody who was a real academic in any true sense of the word. She rose through the bureaucracy ranks at a university. And so when we think about this rot known as the swamp, right, the swamp does not just exist in Washington, D.C. It doesn't just exist in the government. It exists in every

sphere of our lives. And so that's, I think, part of what we have to wake up to is it's not just the swamp in D.C. It's the swamp in our universities, in the DEI training sessions, in the HR departments of corporate America, in K-12 education, in the teachers unions, in unions of many other kinds as well. It's not just in the public sector alone. It's a horizontal managerial class, the transnational institutions, people with staff up the UN, NATO. It goes beyond traditional partisan boundaries. It goes beyond just the public sector to private sector. It even goes beyond national boundaries. It's the same kind of people who become the associate dean of God knows what, who then become the ambassador to some second-rate country abroad, who then become the undersecretary of God knows what, who then become the vice president of something or other, an HR

department and a consultant in corporate America sitting on some middling company's board. It's this horizontal managerial class that's crushing the will of the everyday citizen. That's really what this problem is all about. We call it the Great Reset, the dissolving of public and private sector boundaries to crush the citizen. That's what's going on in this country. And so I know we're getting into some heavy duty stuff there, but that's effectively how I see the real threat in this country. And Claudine Gay is just one more example of a manifestation, not just of the affirmative action agenda, but of that

bureaucratic agenda in our institutions. But it is a real threat and it is actually crushing people like the people who could be sitting on a United Airlines flight and have the door blow out because of DEI initiatives, right? How would you put a stop to that as president? And affirmative action, period. And the president can do that. So there was an executive order, actually, that Lyndon Johnson loaded, wrote into the law. Not a lot of people know this. That's how affirmative action started. It was executive order 11246. That happens to be the number of it. Every Republican president could have canceled it, but every Republican president gets scared because they say that that's not the political hill they want to die on. Well, you know what? You can drag my dead

body out of the White House sooner than me rescinding this. Okay. I'm going to get the right thing done for this country. End toxic racial discrimination. The best way to end discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race. Cancel all those executive orders from the government that say that if you're getting federal money or if you're doing business with the federal government, that's 20% of the U.S. workforce working for such a company, you can't engage in race-based discrimination, period. Restore merit and meritocracy. As commander-in-chief, end a lot of that agenda and are on U.S. military.

Clean house at the Pentagon, the General Mark Milley's of the world, should have come nowhere near the Pentagon in the first place. They're blowing woke smoke to deflect the left, who the left used to be the ones criticizing them for the Iraq war. They placate the left with the DEI and affirmative action nonsense. And so it becomes this arranged marriage between the institutional bureaucrats that the left used to criticize for everything from the 2008 bailouts after the financial crisis to even the wars in Iraq, which actually the left used to correctly criticize the Bush-Cheney fascist administration for. But what they created was a new arranged

marriage between that permanent state and the left to give the left the woke smoke they need to inhale. But it placates the left from criticizing them from their own actual national security state and foreign policy overreaches. And so, again, we're covering like book length, you know, subject matter here in like, you know, two minute exchange. But that's what's going on in this country. And so I put an end to it in part by shutting down the bureaucracy, in part by rescinding the executive orders that created a lot of the toxic racialized agendas in the first place. And I think it takes a president, Benny, who actually understands the detail of this. Yes, an outsider who comes in with sharp elbows and can break things. And I broke the debate stage in the same way I'll break the

bureaucracy in Washington, D.C. But it's also going to take somebody who knows and understands the law and the Constitution. And I think you need both to get it done. And they're telling me I got a role, man. We're arriving at our next stop here in Iowa. Thankfully, you're not on a flight. So I'm not worried about the door blowing off because of a DEI hire. Well done, Vivek. Godspeed. I appreciate it, brother. Thank you. Heavy topics with Vivek. Heavy topics with Vivek. Michelle Obama terrified. Terrified. She's kept awake at night because of Donald Trump. Oh, baby. What keeps me awake at night, actually, is assuming that there is an entire oligarchy, an entire government, and a group of people

that are outside of the bounds of law. And Michelle Obama's one of them. That's what actually scares the hell out of me. You saw that on display yesterday with Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden on Capitol Hill. Now, we were covering this live, so we weren't able to like properly distill all of the things that happened. But it's worth recapping here that somebody felt that a member of the American public felt so entitled, such a sniveling little weasel child, such an entitlement of oligarchy, that he stormed into a congressional hearing holding him in contempt for not doing something that every other American has to do, which is when you're subpoenaed by Congress, you have to sit. You have to go to Congress. They are a branch of the federal government. You have to go up there and you can plead the fifth 20,000 times in a row, but you have to sit there and listen to their questioning.

You have to sit for an interview. When you get a congressional subpoena, that's something you must do. Multiple people that we like, Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, they're facing jail time for not doing these things. Ladies and gentlemen, Hunter Biden felt like he had the oligarchical entitlement to march in there and say, I am more important than congress i i am above you me like the hunter biden the sex trafficker hunter biden it was a wild scene when marjorie taylor green began to ask uh about hunter got the opportunity to ask hunter biden in question in the hearing of course like a like a spoiled brat like this entitled prick rich kid he storms out there's somebody who's going to tell him something he doesn't want to hear he runs away kind of defeats the purpose right when marjorie green is five foot nothing a little blonde like starts asking you a question

you tuck your tail and run, kiss your pants. This is what happened yesterday. Gentlemen, time's expired. Chair recognizes Ms. Green from Georgia for five minutes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Excuse me, Hunter. Apparently you're afraid of my words.

Whoa! Here we go! Oh! I like to reclaim my time, Mr. Chairman. Wow, that's too bad. It's kind of neat seeing these guys out in public because it gives an opportunity for people to ask Hunter Biden questions that he wouldn't normally get inside of his bubble. Hunter Biden asked multiple times what kind of crack he was on on Capitol Hill. Hunter, what's your favorite type of crack? Are you on crack today?

Mr. Biden, why did you put your dad on speakerphone with your business partners if you had no involvement in your business? Did he call you? Yes. He answered the phone? Yes. Okay. But why did you need to talk to him during business meetings if he had nothing to do with your business? Would you please, I'll answer your question if you'd be quiet and let me make a statement.

OK, you normally smoke, Mr. Biden. What kind of crack you normally smoke, Mr. But give him a Pulitzer. Give that man. Who is that man? Who is that man? I want him booked for the show. I want him booked right now. Let's do it. Jill Biden asked, hey, listen, Jill, we know your home record. You're the babysitter of Hunter Biden, right? You came in. You were able to get Hunter's dad cheat with you on his wife, and you were cheating on your husband with Hunter's dad, and so you've destroyed effectively their childhood. This is your problem, right, Jill? You're like a horrible person, Dr. Jill.

What are you a doctor of exactly? Oh, education? Got it. So you're not a doctor who can help people. So like, where do you teach? You talk a lot about your students in your classes. Where are they? What students do you teach? We've searched and we've never found any capacity

to sign up for a Jill Biden class. It's all fake. Just like Jill Biden's mewling, bitching. Just skin grading commentary on Hunter Biden in an interview that dropped yesterday. Watch. How have you been coping personally with the onslaught of accusations against your husband and your family, including and especially Hunter. It's the focus of a House Oversight Committee hearing, holding him in contempt, obsessing over him, showing pictures of him during vulnerable moments in his battle with addiction on the floor of the house. This would crush any family. Mika, I think what they are doing to Hunter is cruel. And I'm really proud of how Hunter has rebuilt his life after addiction.

You know, I love my son and it's hurt my grandchildren. And that's what I'm so concerned about, that it's affecting their lives as well. Not your son. Not your son. Joe Biden's wife's son. Let's get this straight. Joe Biden, give me that photo. Joe Biden was the babysitter of Hunter Biden. And she was cheating on her husband with Joe Biden, who was cheating on his wife, who's Hunter's mother.

So your stepson. That's a fact. And you know that Joe Biden's Joe Biden's husband is like openly talking to media about these things. We cannot wait to get up to Delaware to actually interview this guy openly talking to the media media is totally an incurious about Joe Biden the homewrecker also saying that Hunter Biden's the victim that it's cruel what they're doing to Hunter Biden no no what's cruel is what Hunter Biden did to the hundreds of women that he's on tape abusing. What's cruel is Hunter Biden flaunting the crack laws that his daddy passed that locked up hundreds of thousands of young black men,

but he gets to skate time and time and time and time and time again. What's cruel is Hunter Biden lying to his ex-wife that he has no money while he's spending $350,000 a year on hookers. He can't pay alimony to their children. What's cruel is you, witch, not acknowledging your grandchild, your legitimate grandchild, Hunter Byte, your stepson's child, biologically. Her name is Navy Joan Roberts, and she lives in Arkansas. And you hung Christmas stockings for the dog

instead of your grandchild. Leading to the New York Times having to publish a headline saying it's seven grandkids, Mr. President. You don't have six grandkids, you have seven grandkids. That's what cruelty is, you witch. One person's opinion. Cruelty also also of course is um stealing from regular americans stealing our inheritance right by allowing people who weren't who weren't born here who shared nothing of our culture to like flood our nation stealing from us uh through the inflationary policies of your husband destroying our currency destroying the value of our currency and the value of what I'm saving for my kids. And that's why I protect myself by investing in gold.

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