The Benny Show - 🚨Trump Attorney General Drops New ‘TRUCKLOAD’ of Epstein Evidence | Kash FIRES FBI Head, Cover-Up with Guest Mike Benz

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Pam Bondi says FBI has a “truckload” of new Epstein documents after firing the agent in charge of the office covering them up, The Ukraine connection to the Trump assassination exposed, Mike Benz�...� joins the show Check Out Our Partners: American Financing: Save with https://www.americanfinancing.net/benny NMLS: 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org Leaf Filter: Schedule a free inspection at https://leaffilter.com/BENNY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Today is Tuesday, March 4th, 2025. Pam Bondi says a truckload of Epstein documents have been dropped off at the DOJ from the FBI after FBI agents were summarily fired. We covered it on the show on Friday. We predicted what was about to happen and sure as shooting, ladies and gentlemen. Speaking of shooting, we're going to cover in detail and in depth
Starting point is 00:00:28 some of the more interesting assassination details about Donald Trump on this program as we head up to Washington, D.C. We'll be in Washington, D.C. for the State of the Union tonight. It is going to be a rockin' good day. You are in the right place, the front row seat of the Union tonight. It is going to be a rockin' good day. You are in the right place, the front row seat to the golden era. And Mike Benz will be joining the show, of course, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Benny Johnson, and this is The Benny Show. Make sure that unlike Voldemort Zelensky, you actually have a secure financial base. Donald Trump cutting off all military aid and foreign aid to Ukraine.
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Starting point is 00:02:18 We are going to Washington, D.C. As soon as this show wraps, we are on our way and we will be inside of the speaker's office broadcasting live with many of our special guests, friends, friends of the show, people that you know. It's going to be a rocking good time. A lot of surprises, a lot of special guests. You never know who's going to pop on the stream. May break a little bit of news right here. Why not? Somebody with last name Trump will be on the show. I'm just going to say that.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That's all I'm going to say. Somebody with last name Trump will be on the show. I'm just going to say it. We're streaming tonight at 7 p.m. Live from Speaker Johnson's office in the heart of the Capitol building. No one will take you closer to the action for Donald Trump's joint Congress address tonight. So please be there with us.
Starting point is 00:03:11 It's gonna be an absolute riot, just like it is an absolute riot when you see exactly how sad and pathetic Democrats are. This is one I just couldn't pass up. I just couldn't pass it up. This is Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer doing the exact same script
Starting point is 00:03:32 in preparation for Donald Trump's State of the Union tonight. Oh, it's so embarrassing. They can't even come up with the original things to say. And in case you're wondering if they read from a script, I mean, it's the same graphic design and everything. You got to check this out. It's from Eric Daughtry, who's been on our program before. He's a wonderful reporter. The exact same words in the exact same script. Word for word. Here we go. When I win, I will immediately bring prices down starting on day one. That ain't true. That's what you just heard. Since day one Here we go. Meanwhile, Donald Trump has done nothing to lower prices for you.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Instead, he's pardoned violent criminals who savagely beat police officers on January 6th. That's an effing disgrace. He's letting Elon Musk take a chainsaw to vital government programs, and then, even worse, giving him access to Americans' most sensitive data, social security numbers, tax returns, health care bills. He's fired thousands of essential workers, people who help our veterans get their benefits, people fighting Ebola in Africa so it doesn't come here. He's frozen funding for vital programs that so many American families need.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Cancer research, education funding, payments to family farmers, and so much worse. Why are they doing this? Trump, Musk, Doge are taking these vital services away from you for one reason only. So they can give tax breaks to their billionaires club. Their plan is awful. Simply awful. Billionaires win, families lose, and that is the truth. And that is the truth. Okay. It's like incredibly lazy. It's incredibly pedantic. Look at these people.
Starting point is 00:05:31 They don't have any real original thoughts. It's clearly reading directly from scripts that were handed to them and written for them. This is the type of politics that has died in the year 2024. We voted this style, this style of politics. We voted out the lying, the deceiving, the embarrassing footnotes and scripts. We are done with it as an American people. Ladies and gentlemen, we're done with it on this program. It's why we've asked, and if you are a loyal viewer of the show, first off, thank you and hearts out to the chat. But it's why we've asked everyone, everyone that we can, who would even presumably have any level
Starting point is 00:06:18 of power over the Epstein case to release documents. This is the most important lie in modern history told to the American people about who Jeffrey Epstein was and what he was doing. That's why we asked Pam Bondi just a couple of days ago about the Epstein documents. Where are they? Will you be releasing them? President Trump promised to do it. So did Kash Patel. Will you do it? And Pam Bondi made huge international news by telling us that the documents were sitting currently on her desk, burning a hole in her desk at the DOJ, and that they would be released imminently. Ladies and gentlemen, of course, because we've done our research and because we know this case inside and out, we know exactly what should be in the Epstein documents. This
Starting point is 00:07:02 is what should have been in the documents. Here's Jeffrey Epstein's safe, complete with hard drives and bags of passports, boxes of diamonds, CD-ROMs full of images. Here's even more. Right next to his safe were a bunch of CDs and more hard drives, along with a box marked evidence. By the way, the FBI testified the FBI case agent in charge of this raid on Jeffrey Epstein's house. This is his house in Manhattan, $50 million house in Manhattan. They said they didn't put the evidence tape there. These are hard drives that Jeffrey Epstein wrapped with the evidence tape and then wrote on the top of the box, insurance policy. Where's this? Oh, you sweet summer child. I thought that this was what was on Pam Bondi's desk. With anticipation for the release of all of these documents and all this information.
Starting point is 00:08:07 What did we end up getting? Unfortunately, as we have said on the show, we ended up getting a photo op. Influencers at the White House were handed a binder marked declassified. The sick joke on them and all of us was that all of the documents included in that binder were already public. Many of them were redacted in spite of the fact that they were already public. Here's a look at a binder we were able to get our hands on, our hand to the influencers there at the White House. It's just pages and pages and pages of black. They literally burned through an entire pack of black ink in the printer to give them this. And the insult to all of this was that
Starting point is 00:08:53 these documents were already, and they've been public since 2016. So it pissed us off. Ladies and gentlemen, also the influencers there, you know, smiling and sort of prancing around with the binders was a bad look, assuming that there were the names of abused children inside of those binders. It's the whole thing, right? What just went sideways? And we said, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Because I'll tell you my personal baked in bias here. I live in Tampa. I know Pam Bondi very well. She lives in Tampa. She's from Florida. It's no secret. And I'm a huge fan of Pam Bondi. I moved my family to Florida because Pam Bondi is somebody who passed child pederast laws that ended in the death sentence.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I mean, if you abuse a child here, you're going to get capital punishment. I said there had to be more of the story and sure enough there was pam bonnie writing to catch patel at the time i repeatedly questioned whether this was the full set of documents right so pam bondy got this and she was like this can't be right that somebody's lying to me somebody's's insulting me. And sure enough, the FBI field office in New York was in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Right here. What? Where? Where is all this? Where is it? Pam Bondi said to Kash Patel, you better get all that onto my desk and I need it now. Call 877-KASH-NOW. Well, Cash Patel followed up Pan Bondi's letter
Starting point is 00:10:30 saying that the FBI is withholding evidence, specifically the FBI field office in New York, where evidence goes to die, right? As we've been told by credible sources. The FBI is entering a new era, says Cash Patel, on the same day of this Epstein release, documents release embarrassment. One that will be defined by integrity, accountability, unwavering justice. There will be no cover-ups, no missing documents, and no stone left unturned. Anybody in the prior bureau who undermines this will be swiftly pursued. If there are gaps, we'll find them. If there are records that are hidden, we will uncover them.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Kash Patel said that, and he freaking meant it. Holy smokes. Jeff Dennehy is the head of the FBI field office in New York. His ass was fired last night. Top FBI official forced out after questions of President Trump. I mean, this guy was fired, I think, for a myriad of reasons. He's somebody who said that the FBI needed to dig in. This guy.
Starting point is 00:11:28 When President Trump was asking for, you guessed it, records. Get a load of this. This was reporting at the time. Top FBI officials are resisting, openly resisting. Let me just read you from an email that was sent by the assistant director in charge of the New York field office yesterday. His name is James Dennehy. He sent this extraordinarily blunt email to his staff challenging the Trump administration. He said, today we find ourselves in the middle of a battle of our own as good people are being walked out of the FBI and others are being targeted
Starting point is 00:12:00 because they did their jobs in accordance with the law and FBI policy. Jeff Dennehy was in charge of delivering documents to Pam Bondi from Epstein. He insulted his new boss. He spit in her face. He lied to her and he gave her an entire stack of black ink. It was our worst fears realized, right? And then accelerated by the release strategy, you know, sort of photo op, right? And so this individual has now been fired. What will happen next? It's very interesting because what happened next was quite remarkable. Everybody who knew about these documents, knows about the internal functionings of the FBI, knew that the Southern District of New York is a particular cesspool. and keeps evidence from those who are constitutionally elected to seek it and who are constitutionally have a right to actually view that evidence.
Starting point is 00:13:10 This is something, this is a practice that has long gone on. This is why James Comey put his daughter, who looks like James Comey in a wig. I mean, who honestly looks like James Comey in drag, right? This is Maureen Comey. Yes, you'll be shocked to learn that Maureen Comey was the lead prosecutor in, oh, you guessed it, the Epstein case, the Jelaine Maxwell case, and now the Diddy case. Yeah, there are no coincidences. Maureen Comey works in this office. This office regularly operates with total impunity and independence from the Washington bureaus. The Southern District of New York, of course, is
Starting point is 00:13:55 where so much of the major political cases were brought against Donald Trump. The cases were squashed against Hunter Biden. It is the weaponized arm of the FBI and the DOJ to do whatever the hell they want outside of the reins of the Constitution. It is now being brought to heel. Jeff Dennehy, head of the FBI in New York, forcibly resigned on Monday. President Trump's victory, he sent an email urging resistance and to dig in. He's allegedly accountable for concealing the Epstein files. This is a huge positive update. The field office in New York resigned after the DOJ accused him of hiding thousands of Epstein documents. So this is really important. What exactly was he hiding? Well, somebody who has impeccable sources on this subject is Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson
Starting point is 00:14:56 in a recent interview with Elon Musk talking about why the deep state using their apparatchiks inside of the New York field office, is hiding all of this evidence. What exactly do they have? A lot of videos, apparently. Those rooms on the island, I think out in New Mexico, were wired for video. Right. Where's the video? I mean, between Diddy and Epstein, there's probably several thousand hours of footage here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of weird that the people on those videos are lecturing the rest of us about our moral failings, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yeah, it's weird. What is that? Well, I mean, part of how they deflect attention from themselves is by criticizing the morals of others. Yes. So it's sort of like a preemptive moral strike. I mean, as I said, I think those who are saying Trump is a threat to democracy are themselves actually the threat to democracy. Actually, it's Donald Trump who started his political career, literally before he even announced he was running in 2015, on stage with Sean Hannity, saying he's going after Epstein. It's a little known clip
Starting point is 00:16:06 that should be the most famous clip on earth showing President Trump keeping his promises here. Bill Clinton. Nice guy. Got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of problems. You see, Hannity had no idea
Starting point is 00:16:22 even what Trump was talking about there. And the audience was like, who? And lo and behold, ladies and gentlemen, President Trump bulldozing his way through, realizing that Jeffrey Epstein was clearly a made man inside of the deep state, was behaving in such a sick and duplicitous way, in such a criminal manner, that if you were to actually learn the truth about who Jeffrey Epstein was, who he was working for, and what he was allowed to do, that the entire system would collapse. I think this is what President Trump understood. And if you listen to the old clips of the prosecutors of Jeffrey Epstein, when he
Starting point is 00:17:01 finally caught a case in 2008 for underage prostitution, the prosecutor saying Donald Trump was the only guy that helped us. Donald Trump was the only person in the Palm Beach glitterati that stepped forward and said, I'm going to give you everything you want on Jeffrey Epstein. He did it voluntarily. Donald Trump's been wanting the destruction of this system for a very long time. He's promised on the 2024 campaign trail that he would be bringing the system to heel. He would be releasing the Epstein documents. Well, hot diggity damn. the deep state apparatchik in charge of the FBI's field office in the Southern District of New York, Pam Bondi went on Sean Hannity's show, Time is a Flat Circle,
Starting point is 00:17:52 to declare that a truckload of Epstein files has been delivered to her after she put out a hard deadline. A truckload, huh? Pam Bondi spent her entire life in law enforcement. She's very choosy with her words. I know this, we've interviewed her a lot. When she says a truckload, I think she means like a literal actual truckload.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Is this what we finally got? Like you would need to load something like this, this amount of evidence onto a truck, right? We finally got it. Let's have a listen to Pam Bondi. And the FBI handed over a couple hundred pages of documents. But, you know, Sean, I gave them a deadline of Friday at 8 a.m. to get us everything. And a source had told me where the documents were being kept.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Southern District of New York, shock. So we got them all by, hopefully all of them, Friday at 8 a.m., thousands of pages of documents. I have the FBI going through them, and Cash is also, now that we have Cash here, it's a game changer, of course. And Cash is going to, Director Patel is going to get us a detailed report as to why the FBI withheld all of those documents. Okay. I want to be clear because I think people got frustrated because they were expecting more. You were expecting more, and you didn't find out less than 24 hours before the release. You got a whistleblower that confirmed that there were way more documents that they were supposed to turn over over and then you found out just before
Starting point is 00:19:25 that. Well, sure. And you're looking at these documents going, these aren't all the Epstein files. They were flight logs, they were names and victims' names. And we're going, where's the rest of the stuff? And that's what the FBI had turned over to us. And so a source said, whoa, all this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York. So based on that, I gave them the deadline, Friday at 8, a truckload of evidence arrived.
Starting point is 00:19:50 It's now in the possession of the FBI. Cash is going to get me and himself, really, a detailed report as to why all these documents and evidence had been withheld. And, you know, we're going to go through it, go through it as fast as we can, but go through it very cautiously to protect all the victims of Epstein, because there are a lot of victims. You had identified in phase one over 200 or 254. OK, now, is that the only thing that would be redacted? Will everything else be made public that you get in your possession? Yeah, the FBI hasn't had obviously they haven't looked at the thousands of pages of documents
Starting point is 00:20:26 that they've just received Friday. The cash has a team going through them, and it's always about protecting the victim. But you know what? We believe in transparency, and America has the right to know. The Biden administration said on these documents no one did anything with them, and why were they sitting in the Southern District of New York?
Starting point is 00:20:43 I want a full report on that. You know, sadly, these people don't believe in transparency. But I think more, unfortunately, I think a lot of them don't believe in honesty. And it's a new day. It's a new administration. And everything's going to come out to the public. The public has a right to know. Americans have a right to know. And that goes the same with the JFK files. JFK, Martin Luther King. Yep, absolutely. What are the things that and maybe some people don't understand the need to redact in the case of a victim? That should be pretty obvious to people. What are the other things that maybe you would have to redact? Well, national security. No, of course, national security, some grand jury information, which is always going to be
Starting point is 00:21:23 confidential. But we'll see. Let's let's look through them as fast as we can. Get it out to the American people, because the American people have a right to know not only on that, but on Kennedy, on Martin Luther King, on all of these cases that the Biden administration has just sat on for all these years. So, yeah,'s really, it's not sad, it's infuriating that these people thought that they could sit on this information, but they can't. It's a new day and we believe in transparency and it's going to come out.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And when we redact things, Sean, what we're gonna do is not just pull pages out like they used to do. If something's redacted, you will know the line and you will know why it's redacted, you will know the line and you will know why it's redacted, the victim's name, identifying information of a victim. So that sounds a lot different than this. That sounds like it's going to be quite a bit different style of release. Will we actually see things? This is, of course, the most viral clip on the internet right now,
Starting point is 00:22:26 Pam Bondi, saying we're going through this truckload of documents as fast as we possibly can. Everybody was amazed at the use of the terminology truckload. Ladies and gentlemen, we want arrests and perp walks. Listen, if you do something like this, then you clearly are in defiance of multiple federal statutes. You're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to defy President Trump, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel. These are your bosses. What's going to happen to them? Just on Friday, we asked Mike Davis about this. What should happen to these people that have withheld evidence from Pam Pondy? You know, Mike's going to say that obstruction of justice. So it's obstruction of justice. What other charges could be added to this if they are found to be withholding evidence, which obviously there are?
Starting point is 00:23:19 There's photos of the evidence. What's the what's the what's the charges that could be lined up? Well, there's obstruction of justice. There's conspiracy there. I mean, there's a whole litany of charges that you can come up with. If you are illegally disobeying the attorney general of the United States on her investigation of this, you're going to have big problems. You're going to have big job problems. You're going to have a big problems with your bar as an attorney, and you're going to have big job problems. You're going to have big problems with your bar as an attorney, and you're going to have big problems with the criminal justice system.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Good. Mike Davis saying, well, hopefully we disbar these jackasses. Prove it, says Tim Poole. Release a single page right now. Release one piece of new evidence, information, document, photo, picture, video, hard drive, passport, diamond, anything. Anything that's right here. By the way, these photos, which come from the FBI, the U.S. District Attorney's Office, the same office that was just turned upside down. These photos are just, like, this is just the tip of the iceberg, just scratching the surface. They went and raided Jeffrey Epstein's properties. They took boxes upon boxes upon boxes, literal truckloads.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Maybe that's why Pam Bondi used the term truckload. Files from Southern District of New York were delivered to Cash Patel. Cash Patel is investigating why the Southern District of New York withheld the document. Of course, Dennehy was fired. Cash's team is currently reviewing thousands of files. Bondi called out Biden regime for sitting on these files. Bondi says the American people are going to see everything, and Bondi admits that some information will be redacted for national security purposes and grand jury information. Okay, fine. Fine. That I can live with. In other words, Bonnie and Cash have the situation under control. They were handed a live grenade.
Starting point is 00:25:09 This is why no other administration has even tried with the Epstein case. And, of course, Epstein's clearly an intel asset, as we have covered multiple times on this show, probably a shared intel asset between Mossad and the CIA, and that that would be very embarrassing because it would say that these intel agencies are permissive of the worst crimes that you could possibly think of. I understand everybody is anxious and angry, but Trump and his appointees have proven their
Starting point is 00:25:36 intentions are legitimate. It's happening. The ball is rolling. Pam Bondi is the reason, part of the reason why I moved my family to Florida. Let's call it what it is. Listen, you harm a child in the state, you die. You get the death penalty. Part of the reason why I moved my family to Florida. Let's call it what it is. Listen, you harm a child in the state, you die. You get the death penalty. So these are good things for parents. The environment, that's the kind of protections you want if you are a parent, a father of four. So you don't pass laws like that if you want to protect Jeffrey Epstein. You just don't pass laws like that if you want to protect Jeffrey Epstein. You just don't.
Starting point is 00:26:14 So they are crashing up against, breaking up against the harshest, thickest, most fortified wall in the deep state, right? To protect their assets, to protect their intel sources, to protect their sources and methods, and to actually cover up their crimes. Because who was permissive of Jeffrey Epstein doing these things? Well, a whole litany of people. Everyone from the head of the FBI, the head of the CIA, to Wall Street banks. All of them will be culpable. The whole house of cards comes falling down. You don't have the cards.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Yeah, they don't have the cards. Mayor Garland and Christopher Wray weaponized the DOJ and the FBI and Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are cleaning it up, says Jim Jordan. So everyone is talking about this. Everyone is declaring that Pam Bondi is finally, finally going to get something new here. And again, she's not a liar. OK, so I'm just going to call it. I'm just going to call it for what it is.
Starting point is 00:27:07 We've done our level-headed best on this program to bring you new information on this and to bring you people with actual evidence and knowledge of what's going on, including two FBI whistleblowers who were on our program last week, who were talking exactly about what needed to happen. And I'm so proud of this clip
Starting point is 00:27:23 because we try so hard to predict the future on this show and to say what must happen. And we know that it actually causes a domino effect when we get it right. Sometimes we do get it right. Garrett O'Brady and Kyle Seferin were on the program last week.
Starting point is 00:27:43 They're two FBI whistleblowers. They're very, very brave men. And they went hard after Jeff Dennehy. They know this guy. They know the Southern District of New York. And they said what Cash needs to do is get on the jet, fly up there, and say, you can do this the easy way or the hard way. And hot damn, the clip went viral. And were they ever right? Here's our show predicting the future. This is a clip from last Friday. Garrett, you made huge national news on the show earlier this week saying the FBI has a secret server that they may be systematically destroying evidence in a way that there would be absolutely no forensics left and we wouldn't be able to actually get the evidence ever. Do you believe that we will ever see the Epstein evidence? Is there a situation like that that is currently occurring? What do your sources say?
Starting point is 00:28:35 I don't know if there's a situation currently occurring along those lines. As far as Epstein goes, I'm not holding my breath. Their heads have to roll again, proverbially. People need to be removed. People need to be fired. They need to be brought up on criminal charges for interfering with the chief executive, the president. And we haven't seen it yet. Will we see it? Kyle mentioned that Jim Dennehy has been on this call all morning. So it goes back to his email he sent before Cash was even the director, that he's going to dig in. He's been dug in for a long time, and he's going to stay dug in as long as he can. I think we got to acknowledge that the entire story of Epstein, because it is so salacious,
Starting point is 00:29:17 and it involves underage girls, and it involves sex, which is always lurid, and people in high power. It's a shiny object in many ways. It's a, it's a laser dot on the ground. We're chasing it like a cat because it's like, well, give us the files. First of all, if your audience got access to the files, what are they going to do with it? Are they going to do prosecutions? I don't care about the files. I got to be totally honest with you. I don't care about the files. I don't need to see any of the evidence. What I want to see is announced indictments. They can even be done under seal. I want to know about arrests that are getting done, even if I don't know the names of the people. And I want to see people brought
Starting point is 00:29:46 to justice. That's what we really want. If we're being honest about it, the files are like a distraction. And so people getting sort of distracted by the idea of like, how come we can't see the files? Like, it doesn't matter. You can't see a lot of files. There's all kinds of prosecutions that you don't get access to. And it doesn't matter to you. What you want to see is justice. That's what Americans are really looking for justice and accountability. And are we going to see that? Maybe not. As Garrett appropriately pointed out, the most dangerous piece is all they do is slap that classification on there.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And the minute that somebody goes forward with something like that, they're arrested because their last name isn't Clinton. They're going to go to jail for that. They're going to spend time for violating the NDA for national security. You're going to be exposing either sources and methods or whatever else is out there. And you're going to do time for it. And we will see prosecutions of that because what we have seen is that people actually do pay for bringing this information forward. They'll have their careers destroyed. There are people that have brought forward information and there's no mechanism by which a guy who did the job that I did, the job that Garrett
Starting point is 00:30:39 did as an FBI agent, you don't have a route to go to Congress. It was weird in the first place for me to go to Congress. And for whatever it's worth, Benny, I brought information about the attorney general potentially lying in front of Congress to my Congresswoman in October of late, like the third week of October of 2021. And by November 23rd, I was told I couldn't come back into the office. And by the second week of November, I got a phone call from somebody in an office, actually Garrett's old field office, who was a friend of mine that I'd never met in person. And nobody had any way to know that we were friends. And he had gotten a call from Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Say, hey, we got a problem out in Albuquerque division. We got this guy. They didn't name me. And he's refusing to get the COVID shot. And he's also a whistleblower. What should we do with him? So they knew that I had blown the whistle on this thing within two weeks. And all I did was print off an email and take it to a member of Congress. And it was public to the people in the FBI in the legal
Starting point is 00:31:28 division who were looking to punish me right away. How do people understand that scrutiny? And the other thing is this, it's really, really obvious to those of us that are sitting here. And I know Garrett's feeling intensely because he's 29 months now. He's still technically an FBI agent. If you ask the FBI, he's not been paid. He doesn't have a badge and a gun. He's not allowed to do the job, but they consider him an employee. If he wants to go get another job, he's going to get fired from the FBI who hasn't paid him in over like two and a half years. And the craziest piece of it is, is they saw what happened to Garrett. They saw what happened to me. You know, the biggest cost to both of us was our anonymity because you never heard of me before I
Starting point is 00:31:59 went and talked to Dan Bongino on a podcast in September of 22. You never heard of me on purpose. I had a dad who was in radio for my whole life when I was growing up. If I wanted to go sit in front of a microphone, I would have done it a long time ago. I didn't want to do it until our family was at risk. And so you can just look at what FBI agents didn't do to protect guys like Garrett or myself who knew us. What will they do to protect an American person? They're telling us that they swear their life. And I've already told you they de-escalated the obedience to the Constitution piece. We saw during the COVID nonsense exactly what it looks like. If they're not going to lose their job over doing the right thing, you think they're going
Starting point is 00:32:33 to lose their life over it? Absolutely not. There it is. There's the piece. I think that looks like my work over there. I feel like I've done that on Twitter. It's troubling stuff, though. I mean, core values actually mean something to the people who put it out. Whether or not it means something to the people that are getting the reading, it's troubling stuff though. I mean, if you core values actually mean something to the people who
Starting point is 00:32:45 put it out, whether or not it means something to the people that are, that are getting the reading, it's another animal, but look, what's in front of it. You put fairness and diversity over the top of the constitution in America. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're doing our best. We're doing our best here. We've got cash in the chair. We We got cash in the chair. We got Pam in the chair. We're pushing and using the energy of this program to get this evidence. Why? Because nobody's gone to jail. That's why. Because we live in a country that not only did our tax dollars probably fund this, you and I, like moral people who believe in God and are trying to raise our children, our tax dollars probably funded the Epstein operation with full permission from the government. That's been proven out again and again and again. The FBI's own words, they say that Jeffrey Epstein was a cooperating source and so we're not to charge him. And these two stories tie together so darkly and so beautifully and so criminally.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Ah, it's sick, man. Not only were your tax dollars probably funding Jeffrey Epstein, and that's what they're trying to protect here, but also some of the major institutions in this country have been used to protect those who were his clients. They have refused to charge or even look into the people that were being fed these young girls by Jeffrey Epstein. Now the drug dealer, let's just take it in the, the drug dealer's bad, but also the people who are buying the drugs are also criminals. Both are bad. To zip up the operation, you kind of need to like make sure both of them get charged.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And for some reason, Jeffrey Epstein killed in his prison cell with full permission of the federal government. We did like three, four hours last week on this subject matter. Happy to go longer on it. We don't have time today. Jelaine Maxwell is the only other person that's alive that caught a case, and she's spending the next like 30 years in prison. Jelaine Maxwell said definitely Jeffrey Epstein was killed in the cell, for sure. She's the only other person that has been punished for this.
Starting point is 00:35:10 What about all of the clients? What's happening? If the federal government is protecting them, then what they're saying is they're permissive of the pederast operation that Jeffrey Epstein was running.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You could get away with it. And I don't want to live in that country. I don't want to live in a country where my tax dollars funded or where the people who do these acts get to run around and run for president again, like Bill Clinton did. Clinton, a couple of years after he was flying 26 times on the Lolita Express, Bill Clinton went and just ran for president again
Starting point is 00:35:45 through Hillary. And tens of millions of Democrats voted to put that guy back in the White House. Thank God for Donald Trump. So it is a moment, is a moment of a fight between light and dark. And that fight continues. Will we ever see all of the evidence? We deserve to see it. Benny, what if there's a republican in the evidence i don't care what if it's somebody what if it's somebody that you like it in the evidence well if you're dude if you're doing something on these tapes and if you're on like if i want you in prison the end okay that's it it just doesn't matter to me. I want you in jail, all right? And I'm like, we're pretty airtight on that.
Starting point is 00:36:29 We have some rules around here. So yeah, I don't care. Your terms are acceptable. And until these people burn, until they all suffer the same consequences like Jelaine Maxwell is suffering, right? The rest of their lives in prison, then we don't have a real country. We have fake country with fake rules that only,
Starting point is 00:36:49 only apply when it's convenient. So very important. Speaking of, uh, hiding and lying, covering up evidence. Remember the guy named Ryan Ralph, who able to get a firearm, AK-47, sit right 200 yards away from Donald Trump? By the way, like longest sniper round ever was like 3,000 yards. So this guy was well within the capacity to kill Trump right after Trump had a bullet blast through his ear. A successful headshot because the ear is part of the head. So he hit him in the head, right? So right after that, Ryan Ralph, a man who with deep, deep ties to Ukraine, who was constantly in Ukraine, even though he was impoverished and poor, doesn't have any money,
Starting point is 00:37:38 had $0 in his bank account, even though he was a career criminal, 72 criminal counts, including a weapons of mass destruction count for having a fully automatic weapon. This guy who shouldn't have been allowed to travel at all, certainly not buy a gun, was able to purchase a firearm. Nobody knows where he got the AK-47. That'd be nice to know. And then to sit there so close to Donald Trump that he was nearly able to get a pilot, so close that actually the secret service agent stumbled upon him. The story is incredible. Secret service agent was only a few feet away and actually saw him with the naked eye, not with infrared goggles. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You think you'd use infrared, right? Boy, I wonder if there's a person in the bushes. Well, use infrared. There's one thing you can't camouflage. It's fact, you're you're a human body, right? No infrared. They were literally, with the naked eye,
Starting point is 00:38:28 we were able to see them. The Secret Service agent brandished their firearm, fired five shots, missed him. He was able to flee the scene. They caught him like a couple counties down the road. How incompetent these people are.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But is the incompetence on purpose? Kind of like with the Epstein thing. There's this, kind of like, also with the Epstein thing. There's this kind of also with the Epstein thing. The FBI announced that this Ukrainian activist who somehow has enough money to purchase firearms, camp out to kill Donald Trump, who regularly wrote about killing Donald Trump in his manifestos,
Starting point is 00:39:05 who traveled to Ukraine, who recruited from terrorist hotbeds, ISIS, Afghanistan, Iran, to come fight in Ukraine to get no-look passports. So this guy clearly had connections with the CIA and the State Department to inflow fighters into Ukraine. It's clearly funded by the ngos of the world that were funded by usaid this guy was clearly an operative this man was known by the fbi the fbi admitted it here we go by way of his background in 2002 as the united states attorney uh mentioned the subject was charged and convicted in in North Carolina for possession of a weapon of mass destruction. Law enforcement checks also revealed that from 1997 to 2010, the subject had numerous felony charges for stolen goods. I can also share with you that he was the subject of a previously closed 2019 tip to the FBI where it was alleged he was a felon
Starting point is 00:40:07 in possession of a firearm. Well, he was a felon in possession of a firearm. The FBI closed the case. What is with these specific criminals getting passes by the feds? They'll make no sense. If you were to do this, you'd be serving the rest of your life in prison. Yet the Ukraine activist who has deep, dark ties to USAID, to federal law enforcement, Homeland Security was supposed to investigate this guy and they let him walk scot-free. This guy was able to just skate.
Starting point is 00:40:40 What the hell's going on here? Now he's, Ryan Ralph offered $150, 150 000 now he's dead broke so how does ryan ralph have 150 000 for anybody who could finish the job on trump the ukraine connection is so incredibly weird it's this went thermo this post went viral and look at this 25 000 like 67 000 67 000 likes 25 000 reposts the man who tried to kill trump before the election was deeply connected to ukraine's military they completely buried this and he offered 150 000 for anybody who could finish the job and kill trump what the hell's going on here the only reason we're talking about this is that this week president trump snapped at zielinski and there's
Starting point is 00:41:18 a specific reason why he snapped at zielinski he snapped snapped at Zelensky when Zelensky threatened him. In the Oval Office, if you listen carefully, the diplomatic conversation descended into Zelensky saying, you're going to be threatened. You're going to feel it. You're going to feel pressure, President Trump. And Trump snaps on him, I think because Trump's already felt the pressure from people connected to Ukraine, as of course have we, because we've been given documents from senators saying that we're on hit lists and enemies lists of Ukraine. Of course, these lists are funded by my own tax dollars, just like the Jeffrey Epstein prosecutions and operations. Amazing. How much more insulting can they get to us, the American taxpayers?
Starting point is 00:42:06 President Trump snapping at the White House in this moment. Here we go. What kind of diplomacy, J.D., you are speaking about? What do you mean? I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president for trying to bring it into this conflict. Have you ever been to Ukraine? Did you say what problems we have?
Starting point is 00:42:39 I have been to... Count once. been to come one. I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories. And I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military? And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to try to prevent the destruction of your country? A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Even you. But you have a nice ocean. And don't feel now. But you will feel it in the future. God bless. God bless. God bless. You will not have a war. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Because you're in no position to dictate that. Remember this. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're going to feel very good. You will feel influenced. We're going to feel very good and very strong. You will feel influenced. You're right now not in a very good position.
Starting point is 00:43:42 You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he happens to be right about it. You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards. Right now, you're playing cards. You're playing cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country. It's back to you. Far more than a lot of people said they should have. Have you said thank you once? No, in this entire meeting, have you said thank you? You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country. Please. You think that if you will speak very loudly about the war, you can... He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Your country is in big trouble. Can I ask? No, no. You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble. I know. You're not winning. You're not winning this. You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us. Mr. President,
Starting point is 00:44:54 we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war. We've been alone. And we are thankful. I said thanks in this cabinet. You haven't been alone. We gave you through this stupid president, $350 billion. You voted for your president. We gave you military equipment.
Starting point is 00:45:10 You voted for your president. And you men are brave, but they had to use our military equipment. If you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks. In three days. I heard it from Putin. In three days. This is something new. Maybe less. In two weeks. In three days. I heard it from Putin. In three days. This is something new. Maybe less. In two weeks. Of course, yes.
Starting point is 00:45:27 It's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this. I tell you. Just say thank you. I said it a little time. Except that there are disagreements. And let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the American media when you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:45:43 We know that you're wrong. But you see, I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on. I understand. I think it's very important. That's why I kept this going so long. You have to be thankful. You don't have the cards. You're buried there. Your people have died.
Starting point is 00:45:58 You're running low on soldiers. Listen, you're running low on soldiers. It would be a damn good thing. Then you tell us, I don't want to cease fire. I don't play running low and soldiers it would be a damn good thing then you tell us i don't want to cease fire i don't want to cease fire i want to go and i wanted this i look if you could get a ceasefire right now i tell you you take it so the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed of course we want to stop the war but you're saying you don't want to say that to you i want to see you with. Because you'll get a ceasefire faster than an agreement. Ask our people about a ceasefire, what they think.
Starting point is 00:46:28 It doesn't matter to you what it means. That wasn't with me. That was with a guy named Biden who was not a smart person. That was with Obama. It was your president. Excuse me. That was with Obama who gave you sheets and I gave you javelins. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets and I gave you javelins. I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets. In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins. You've got to be more thankful. Because let me tell you, you don't have the cards. With us, you have the cards. But without us, you don't have any cards. One more question to Mike.
Starting point is 00:47:04 This is the Vice President. It's going to be a tough deal to make because the attitudes have to change. So what does Trump know? What connection does Ukraine have to this would-be assassin? We know that Ukraine is engaged in political assassinations all around the world. Tucker Carlson saying that Ukraine has tried to assassinate heads of state in Europe and have successful political assassinations all over the globe. And that's true. They also have successful terrorist operations like the Nord Stream Pipeline. What exactly is going on here? Well, it's very, very dirty, ladies and gentlemen, and it's something that we're going to get into with our guest mike benz
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Starting point is 00:49:03 Leaf Filter is America's number one gutter protection system. Schedule a free inspection and take advantage of the spring spectacular sale with 30 off your entire purchase from leaffilter.com benny that's a free estimate free inspection and 30 off leaffilter.com benny see representative for warranty and details Here we go. Mike Benz joining us to unpack all of this mess. Let's go. The great Mike Benz, who knows so much more about this than any human or AI. I think it's you versus AI, Mike. And I'm not sure who would possibly win that battle. But it is remarkable your understanding of this issue. And I guess I'll start off by simply explaining that we're just noticers, okay? Unlike yourself, who's devoted your entire life to deconstructing the dark web and the globalist superstructure of control over free speech and free thought and freedom itself. We just happen to notice things professionally. And here's something that we professionally
Starting point is 00:50:11 happened to notice. That a guy named Ryan Ruth, who was ready with an AK-47 to shoot President Trump and kill him after the first assassination attempt of course failed was a ardent truly bloodthirsty frothing at the mouth ukrainian agent and that the man seen here posing with him jose andres got a medal at the white house after ryan ruth nearly killed president trump she seems a little strange commentators like sean davis pointing this out that it's um a little odd. Commentators like Sean Davis pointing this out that it's a little odd that the guy pictured here with the would-be assassin received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Joe Biden. Don't know if they're connected, but it sure as
Starting point is 00:50:54 hell seems like Ukraine hates Donald Trump. Maybe proven true in front of the entire world a few days ago. Mike, the floor is yours. Well, we've spent a fair amount of time on this Ryan Routh situation. We did, I think, one of the Benny's Brew shows on this, and I've done hours and hours of research streams, but making public the incredible, just tangled web of intrigue around the would-be Trump assassin and the ties to both Ukraine, to the Pentagon, strange affairs with DHS, with the FBI, with the CIA, paramilitary terrorist recruiting folks. If folks remember, it was actually the story around Ryan Routh recruiting terrorists from Syria and Pakistan and Iran and trying to bring them to Ukraine to get them fast pass no look visas, working directly with the U.S. embassy in Kiev in order to get killers and terrorists and warriors to kill the Russians in the eastern half of the country. This is obviously at the dead center of what's happening this week in terms of Trump's negotiation with Zelensky
Starting point is 00:52:13 about striking a peace deal with Russia. Of course, Ryan Routh also was wanted by DHS. He was intercepted by Customs and Border Patrol, who recommended to DHS that Ryan Routh be investigated. In June 2023, DHS declined to investigate Ryan Routh. Ryan Routh also had a business card on him for a 501c3 nonprofit operating in Ukraine, which itself was covered by Voice of America and Radio Free Liberty to CIA proprietaries, now technically independent, but as independent as USAID itself is. But this story around Ukraine is really the central pivot point of all world geopolitics right now. If Ukraine can be folded into NATO and Ukraine can become an EU country. And Ukraine's natural resources,
Starting point is 00:53:06 its gas supplies, its rare earth minerals, which tally at something between $12 and $14 trillion worth, can be turned over effectively to the NATO alliance. That would completely reorient world politics. It would create the inroads to seizing all of Eurasia from Russia, which has been the grand plan of the British empire since the 1800s and the grand plan of the U.S. empire, arguably since the Cold War, but certainly since the 1990s. And the problem is, is, you know, we lost. We lost to Russia in the military conflict. Russia has successfully seized large portions of eastern Ukraine and has consolidated its military occupation. Well,
Starting point is 00:53:55 actually, it was a free referendum, but NATO calls it a military occupation of Crimea. But we've got a bag of dirty tricks to try to take that back from Russia. And the question is, is do you go all in militarily as the blob has wanted to do? Or do you do the Trump strategy of striking a peace deal, is the blobs actual tacit support for aspects of the Trump peace plan. There has been a dissident wing of the transatlantic foreign policy establishment who has been wanting a peace deal struck arguably for about a year and a half now. And they've been growing in numbers because as Ukraine has lost more and more territory territory it's made it harder to launch an eventual reconquest of eastern Ukraine and Crimea and so I actually think trumped is not at complete odds with his own with portions of his own State Department in dod and IC in the in the quest to strike a peace deal the question is on what. They don't want to give up territory.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Unfortunately, that's likely necessary. They don't want to hold new elections in Ukraine because Zelensky would lose. Unfortunately, that's likely to happen. But if Trump can strike a peace deal, I think the blob will be happy to simply go to go to the EU, go to NATO and try to allow the military funds to keep flowing so that we can eventually wrest back control maybe in five or 10 years. So the behavior of Zelensky is something that I really want to dissect here, Mike, inside of the Oval Office. No one's ever seen anything like it. It was so unbelievably petulant. It was so childish and grotesque. And it underlies a behavior of those who are in charge of Ukraine, which is we can do anything that we want, actually. And what we've seen out of Ukraine, like their intel agency head,
Starting point is 00:56:08 Bundanov, we've played this clip before again and again and again, saying that he's thrilled about the political assassinations that Ukraine has staged across the world. Tucker Carlson writing here and the fallout of these events, saying that Lindsey Graham's reaction is striking because Lindsey Graham is scapegoating. Lindsey Graham knows what's coming. The past three years is tacit support of Western patrons. Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes. Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons to the international black market, 20 cents on the dollar. Their weapons are now in the hands of terrorist groups on our borders, like the Mexican cartels. God only knows what Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in the bio labs. Even U.S. intel agencies aren't sure. Ukrainians have also
Starting point is 00:56:54 murdered a number of people in various countries in political assassinations and tried to murder others, including American journalists and European heads of state. What? This is all true. It's going to come out. And it's better to start blaming Alon Zelensky now. I just want to addendum this with something that we received from Senator Jim Banks, a letter saying that we're on a Ukrainian enemies list and that we better watch our asses on this program because Ukraine sees us as a roadblock to them getting unlimited access to the U.S. Treasury. So again, it does seem like there is a very, very dark underbelly to these operations.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And political assassinations have been the norm. I don't know which heads of European state Ukraine has targeted. Maybe you do. Do you believe that there was any, so do you believe that there was any direct or indirect association with Ryan Routh and Ukraine and the Trump assassination attempt? Well, that's certainly something for this Justice Department to pursue aggressively. As it stands, the case, the trial for Ryan Routh has been indefinitely postponed upon the joint request of the Biden Justice Department and the Defense Council for Ryan Routh. something like 15 terabytes of a digital imprint, despite effectively being homeless, we're told, with no assets in his name. The overwhelming volume of evidence and the complexity of the evidence, in the words of the Biden Justice Department, is what caused them to postpone the trial. Of course, this harkens to the Jeffrey
Starting point is 00:58:46 Epstein drama playing out right now. The Pam Bondi Justice Department is inheriting that case and should be able to get to the bottom of that. I'm very curious about the nonprofit web that Ryan Routh was involved in. But the fact is, is Ukraine is something of in the business of assassinations. If folks remember about a year ago, Ukraine assassinated its own lead negotiator in the back channel negotiation peace talks with Russia. This was a guy who was hailed as a hero in Ukraine, who had served as a spy for Ukraine in the past, was a prominent banker. And he basically suggested that these negotiations should pivot towards peace. He was kidnapped, thrown in the back of a van by Ukrainian intelligence, shot in the head and then dropped off a bridge.
Starting point is 00:59:38 This has been openly reported by The New York Times and others, even Voice of American Radio, Radio Free, Radio Liberty. The Ukraine, according to the German police and according to the New York Times, was also responsible for blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline. This is now completely uncontroverted. But folks have to remember, Ukrainian intelligence is not Ukrainian intelligence. It's NATO. The New York Times reported that in 2014, just a day after the overthrow of the Yanukovych government by Victoria Nuland and Chris Murphy and the whole web of Obama foreign policy blob figures. And I think there's some great clips, actually, from Chris Murphy we can play right after this that testify, openly brag about pulling off this coup. But the New York Times
Starting point is 01:00:30 published something like 7,000 word article about how the very day after that coup, the CIA took full control over Ukrainian intelligence. Basically, the Yats and Yook government just called the CIA station chief, walked over to the office and said, hey, can you build our entire intelligence state for us? And the CIA said, happy to. Of course, question whether that's even a faithful telling. That's the best possible version, right? As if the phone call didn't go the other way. But the fact is, is even according to what we know about the Nord Stream pipeline,
Starting point is 01:01:10 the CIA had full knowledge that Ukraine was going to do this ahead of time. But we're told that the CIA said, we told the general, one of the Ukrainian generals not to do it. But the Ukrainian general, the message got lost. It was a big game of telephone. They forgot to tell the Ukrainian intelligence service not to authorize the diving team to blow it up. Of course, that was made possible. It happened over waters around Norway. The Norway-Poland LNG pipeline just became operational the day after the Nord Stream pipeline blew up. Of course, Norway is in the news now because the Norway marine fuel tanker refused to supply the U.S. Navy with fuel just the day after the Zelensky affair blew up. Norway has made over $150 billion worth of windfall profits, of course, from the Russia war because the Norwegian oil and gas has been replacing the Russian ones. Of course, there are joint partnerships between NATO and U.S. oil and gas companies with rights, joint rights to the
Starting point is 01:02:14 oil and gas supplies from Norway. And so, you know, it's one big club and not only are you not in it, but you're getting hit over the head with it. But now time is running out for Zelensky. And, you know, I think this might be a good moment. I amplified this earlier this week, but this this what's happening now is a battle for history. Who's how did this war start? Really? We've been told Russian aggression, Russian aggression, Russian aggression. But the fact is, you can't tell this story without going back to the Obama administration's coup, full-on coup of a democratically elected government in Ukraine, which was basically torn between its Ukrainian and its Russian half. And we like to leave ourselves out of this story. But the fact is, is Chris Murphy, the senator from Connecticut who has been leading the charge to stop the shutdown of USAID, who has been leading the charge to call Trump and Elon Musk authoritarians, who has been leading the charge to back channel with Zelensky around around basically shadow diplomacy to stop Trump's foreign policy agenda, was the very guy on live television as the Ukraine coup was going down,
Starting point is 01:03:27 bragging that it was the U.S. who orchestrated that coup to begin with. This is a great write up from Kanakoa here. And the clip is fantastic. So we have Chris Murphy here saying, yeah, this is our role. We're going to change the government and we're going to brag about it, actually. We're going to go on TV. I've never seen anything like this, Mike, where there are so many different publicly available soundbites and clips of the Obama State Department
Starting point is 01:04:02 and state agents going on TV and bragging about their regime change in Ukraine. And now those very same people are like Susan Rice threw a hissy fit this weekend saying, I have I had nothing to do with this. I've never even met Zelensky. It's amazing to see. I'm sure you saw that. How are they? Are they actually going to escape culpability here? Well, that's a question for the Justice Department, if there's anything criminally actionable there or if there's if there's civil torts in terms of impact on on specific U.S. citizens. I think, for example, going forward, when USAID or its successor or the State Department who inherits its portfolio
Starting point is 01:04:46 funds NGOs in foreign countries that target U.S. citizens. For example, you mentioned Texty and these Ukrainian hit lists and these that target U.S. journalists or that do back channel talks with the social media companies to get journalists censored or targeted, that there should be a civil right of action for U.S. citizens to go after the NGOs who do that targeting in a U.S. court and to go after the State Department and the grant coordinators for failing to do oversight of the NGOs that they're funding. Mike, I would never interrupt you, but like, this says USAID. We got this, we received this letter six months ago. This says that this was, this was put together by USAID. It lists from Jim Banks. It lists the, it lists the agencies. But one of the agencies was USAID that was assisting in the creation and funding
Starting point is 01:05:40 of the enemies list that of course includes myself but also you and Tucker Carlson Charlie Kirk and a bunch of other like you know Jesse Waters anybody was speaking out against Ukraine so our tax dollars are being taken from us uh to fund us being put on a hit list for a country that is known to assassinate its political enemies. It's the greatest possible disrespect. I can't think of a worse use of my tax dollars, actually. Right. Why not just fund the gun to be used to shoot yourself? That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Why do we need USAID? Just go to your local mafia boss and pay him to shoot you in the head. It's what it is. Yeah. The digital equivalent of this. But, Nate, the larger story here is something that goes back many decades. Arguably, it goes back to before World War One. But certainly the most salient example, I think, in our in our parents' lifetimes was the case in the Vietnam War when there was a split in the Democrat Party between its internationalist side and its sort of populist side. And the populist side was anti-war, did not want congressional allocations, their own taxpayer funding, going to fund the Vietnam War. And the CIA, the FBI, the counterintelligence folks, the NSA, the DOD, all basically descended on left-wing populist media and left-vis its internationalist wing, the John Thune historical types, the John Cornyn types,
Starting point is 01:07:31 the Susan Collins, the Lisa Murkowski, and pretty much until this week, the Lindsey Graham types, who have been supportive of intelligence targeting of domestic folks. These are all folks who wanted the reauthorization of FISA, which would be used, of course, against the Trump administration and really any significant Trump figure from Rudy Giuliani and Paul Manafort on down in order to quash any forces within Congress or within the populist base that might call to limit Ukraine war funding. But this is all very self-serving. It's a self-licking ice cream cone, as Elon would say. Chris Murphy, in that very clip where he brags about how the U.S. was orchestrated, took credit that the Yanukovych government would not have been overthrown. Even if you just scroll up there, you'll see the lead into this, where he says, it was our role, including sanctions and
Starting point is 01:08:31 threat sanctions, that forced the democratically elected government of Ukraine being ousted in a violent USAID-funded rental riot regime. And if you scroll down, you'll see what he goes on to say is, there's a U.S. interest here. We're in the middle of negotiating a new trade agreement with Europe. To my state, it's enormously important. We do 40% of our trade in Connecticut with Europe. So he's talking about his own constituents and donors wanting to fold Ukraine into the EU so that it could do business and enrich his own Connecticut citizens. Well, you're also taxing the people in Kentucky and Florida and Ohio. I understand you have to sit on the Atlantic Ocean and happen to have that trade interest there, but this is basically why you see this bifurcated shadow diplomacy,
Starting point is 01:09:22 dual track diplomacy, where you have folks who will defy the federal government's negotiating posture because they have their own self-licking ice cream cone to financially benefit from. So you have to look at the United States in the aggregate. And what you have is you have senators and congressmen who are funded by the war industry or by folks in the energy industry and who reap the windfall of pumping up Ukraine as a NATO state or pumping up Ukraine's endogenous gas supply. We saw this at Burisma and USAID funding to Burisma and the control over the prosecutor, Victor Shokin, and the ousting of him. We have another clip that might be useful to play
Starting point is 01:10:11 if you want to just hear John Kerry talk about just how much was mobilized in the Obama administration to control the prosecutors in Ukraine. The president, the vice president, the head of the State Department, the U.S. ambassador, basically creating a whole surround sound, every diplomatic organ, in order to control the internal criminal justice system of a country 10,000 miles away from Washington. But this is what's at stake here in Ukraine. You have trillions of dollars worth of resources. It requires hundreds of billions, maybe low trillions to actually win the war there. It was a war that we provoked by cooing a democratically elected government out of office. If you remember, the whole Crimea referendum only happened because
Starting point is 01:10:58 those Crimean populations did not respect the new coup government. Why did the Donbass break away and declare itself its own sovereign state before Russia rushed in to defend it from 15,000 people there who had been murdered by NATO forces between 2014 and 2022? It was because they didn't respect the new coup government. I put up a tweet about this a year ago where I said, you know, this whole thing could come to an end if Tony Blinken just stood in front of the State Department podium and said, hey, we're really sorry about that 2014 coup. That was a big fat mistake. Let's reset the risk board back to a place where there's Democrat control over the government. People in the eastern part of the state get to actually vote for who they want as
Starting point is 01:11:46 president. Sorry about that. We're not going to coup the next government. If they just apologized for the 2014 coup and set the board back, this would not have happened. But of course, to even acknowledge that totally undermines the entire international community war footing, a justification for one penny going to Ukraine in the first place. So they're very much dug in unless leverage is applied. And we're now seeing that leverage applied by the Trump White House, who has now, I believe, reduced the total aid spend to the shape of a donut. So touching a lot there, but I want to zero in on a portion of the Tucker tweet. Again, this tweet's done 13 million views, went as viral as any piece of media on all of this.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Tucker's source is impeccable. Tucker Carlson saying that the biolabs in Ukraine, the pathogens have all gone missing. Boy, that sucks. Considering the fact that we were supplying the pathogens and we were using Ukraine right at the foothills of Russia to test and to populate and to either replicate or to make even more dangerous some of the worst pathogens on Earth. Hunter Biden directly involved in the funding of these laboratories. You can see in his laptop a voluminous number of emails about Ukrainian bio labs. And now we're looking here at this clip of John Kerry saying, yeah, you know what? We we've been meddling. We've been meddling in this for so long. It wasn't just the Bidens. It was all of us
Starting point is 01:13:24 like effectively admitting, like, stop picking on Hunter Biden. We all got filthy rich funding bio labs in Ukraine. Here's John Kerry admitting it. Because as secretary of state, I was deeply involved in this. All of us in the administration were trying to get rid of that prosecutor from Obama to the secretary of state, to the vice president. All of us were working on that. The ambassador and and we knew if Ukraine was going to survive and win the revolution in the end, the Maidan, they had to get rid of that prosecutor. And they did now and they and they did so. OK, can you connect all these things together?
Starting point is 01:14:03 Why are there so many biolab, Ukrainian biolab emails and Hunter Biden's laptop? Why is John Kerry sitting there saying all of us needed to get these biolabs funded, needed to get prosecutors out of the way, needed to liquidate banks that were standing against us? What what's the game here? Connect that back to Tucker saying the biolabs now, nobody knows what the passages are. Well, the game is political vassalage. You notice that he says at the end that it was necessary to remove the prosecutor in order to successfully complete the coup. This was the 2014 Maidan revolution that we just read off Chris Murphy taking what was effectively personal credit for it, that the
Starting point is 01:14:46 coup would not have been completed without U.S. funds and U.S. pressure and U.S. sanctions making that happen. And then you have, that's at the street muscle side and the bankrupting of the regime so that it could not fund a military or police to stand up to the violent insurrectionists. You know, basically everything we accused the January 6th folks of doing was actually done by Ukraine, was actually done by Victoria Nuland and Jeff Pyatt, the U.S. ambassador there. Of course, Victoria Nuland was literally handing out cookies and water bottles to the rioters as they were throwing Molotov cocktails into police cars and effectively setting the surroundings to the parliament building on fire. But the reason he's talking about the prosecutors and how they need to
Starting point is 01:15:41 control the prosecutors to complete the coup is because this is how we control political figures who get a little bit too sovereign about their perceptions of being a sovereign, independent democracy or a sovereign nation. If you can't get rid of somebody, if it's going to be too public, if you assassinate them, if they are dug in after sanctions and diplomatic pressure, the best way to get rid of someone is judicial assassination. You throw them in jail and no one hears from them again. And 90 percent of media in Ukraine has been funded by USAID. Ninety percent of Ukrainian media outlets are funded by USAID. You think they're going to print a sympathetic news story for, you know, for a Ukrainian politician who happens to, you know, want to step back the risk board to 2014? Ain't going to happen. But this is also part of the leverage that they have
Starting point is 01:16:36 on folks like Zelensky. If Zelensky decides that he wants to get too far afield from what the State Department or NATO has been wanting him to do, he could go to jail on corruption charges. This was the OCCRP, which gets half its funding from USAID and the State Department, published about the corruption of Zelensky in the Panama Papers. You saw the swarm of 70 U.S. government-funded NGOs who all undersigned the Ukraine Crisis Media Center redlines memo, threatening Zelensky with political instability if he defied any one of the 25 redlines that were sent to him by the U.S. State Department. Ukraine Crisis Media Center is jointly funded by the State Department, USAID, and NATO. So they basically sent their
Starting point is 01:17:25 emissary of 70 NGOs to threaten political instability. They mentioned that multiple times, which is the watchword for riots. Now, if you scroll up and you actually look at the list, you'll see these include the very thing that set off the breakaway state of Ukraine in 2014, which was the banning of the Russian language. Half of the Ukrainian population in 2014 spoke Russian. It was a mixed state. The Western half spoke Ukrainian. The Eastern half spoke Russian. They all voted in a national election. Yanukovych won a close election there. He signed tens of billions of dollars worth of energy deals with NATO in the West, but it wasn't good enough because he didn't sign a trade agreement that would have turned over the entire country to the
Starting point is 01:18:18 IMF and privatized all the state-held assets and turned them over to London and Wall Street. And so they couped him out of office. And then post-coup, they put a ban on the Russian language and its use in schools, its use on Ukrainian TV, on Ukrainian radio, in Ukrainian media. That's in the Red Lines memo, the very thing that caused the Donbass to break away and Crimea to vote with Russia in the first place. What do you expect to happen? Crimea is overwhelmingly Russian ethnic. You ban their ability to even open their mouths and articulate a syllable. Who do you think they're going to vote for if they have a choice to side with Russia in that case. All their cultural mythologies dissolve. All their abilities to talk to one another or buy and sell goods or get their voices heard.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I mean, it basically left them no choice. That was in 2014. Zelensky inherits that mess from Yatsenyuk to Poroshenko to Zelensky. And just one month into its term. But I think this gets back to what just played out in the Oval Office, which was Zelensky has been used to dealing with a U.S. delegation who has always been on his side, financing his every wish, supporting his own local oligarchs and backers in Ukraine. And even Trump 1.0 played ball. I think just like the rest of us, I think I've been quite surprised by Trump's new and improved galaxy brain in term 2.0,
Starting point is 01:19:55 basically going right after the heart of all the things that he only talked about or tweeted about in term 1.0, but now he is decimating them from USAID to the, you know, to the mutinous generals at DOD, to, you know, the CIA, to the FBI, every point of weakness that was used to exploit the neutrality and frankly, the kindness of Trump 1.0, Trump's not falling for it this time. And I think Zelensky, remember, I mean, Trump was impeached in Congress over the 2019 Ukraine call for even thinking about holding up military aid to Ukraine before the war even started in 2022. So even having second thoughts about funding the war got him impeached in term 1.0. But now I think that impeachment fear is significantly less because you have folks
Starting point is 01:20:54 like Elon and other major donors to the GOP now have threatened to primary anyone who voted against the continuing resolution late last year. I think that sent a powerful message that folks like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski and John Thune and John Cornyn and Lindsey Graham, that if they want to basically hold up the executive branch functioning here, well, they can expect a robust primary for the first time in decades in many of their cases. And so I think they are now trying to skate towards where the puck is going. And that itself is causing a massive realignment in the blob and in its counteroffense strategy. They can no longer depend on these tenuous Republicans, on these blob internationalist Republicans to create a bipartisan consensus. And so they're being forced in the negotiating table and they're being forced to go directly to NATO and the EU and the UN to try to get offset funds. We've seen this with USAID grantees going to the EU and trying to ask for more money from the Soros network and the Omidyar network
Starting point is 01:22:01 and the Newmark network. And it's it's swung leverage massively towards the Trump White House. So a couple of very quick follow up questions about what happens next. In that answer, I just want to pin it down. What is the what are the bio labs in Ukraine? Why were they all over Hunter Biden's emails? Why were there so many Obama-level State Department people involved in that? What has happened to these pathogens? What do you think that will be discovered in Ukraine? Maybe we don't know. Tucker says our intel agencies don't know right now. What do you suspect? It's a great question. There's a charitable interpretation. There's a really, really, really dark possibility.
Starting point is 01:22:49 And then there are layers of gray in between. And we don't yet know where it all lands. The fact is, is if you're going to get involved with a company like Metabiota or BioLabs in a foreign country that create freakazoid pandemic viruses, you're going to need the sign off of the national security state and the U.S. intelligence community. You're going to need that to be vetted by CIA, by NSA, by FBI counterintelligence, by the by the White House National Security Council interagency process. So, I mean, this is how you see Avril Haines at Event 201. This is how you see the U.S. military effectively in charge of the vaccine programs.
Starting point is 01:23:33 When DARPA funds the creation of these viruses, this is what happened. Many believe with COVID-19, there was a major DARPA program in 2018 that funded the creation of these cleavage sites, these foreign cleavage sites with the SARS-CoV-2 virus that then was incubated in the Rocky Mountain lab that Tony Fauci was running in 2018 made its way to the UNC, EcoHealth folks, USAID obviously funded $15 million to the Wuhan lab. That same Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Montana that the DARPA grant went to to create what many believe is effectively the recipe for COVID-19, that played a very significant role in the biological warfare program in the 1950s against Cuba. You can read Chris Newby's book, Bitten, about the creation of tick-borne viruses by the U.S. military to be used in the North Korean War in 1950 and to be used against the agricultural crop workers in Cuba to create basically a
Starting point is 01:24:47 sublethal virus that would not result in tens of millions dead, but would rather incapacitate the agricultural workers so that they would not be able to mine their own crops, they'd not be able to refine sugar or to support themselves on the island of Cuba. And in tandem with sanctions would effectively force Cuba to be reinstated into the U.S. empire because they'd effectively starve to death because of these tick-borne viruses that would effectively incapacitate their ability to support themselves. So they need to import from the U.S. And with the U.S. refusing imports, this would effectively complete the strategy there. And that book meticulously documents the use of the Rocky Mountain labs for collecting ticks and fleas and other insects, creating gain-of-function research many believe these are the origins
Starting point is 01:25:45 of lyme disease uh which you know has is its own topic but the fact is is you know the benign the benign case for is these ukrainian bio labs exist for the same reason that usaid funds the wuhan lab and funds labs in canada and in other countries to do gain of function research where they create freak mutant super viruses. They jump them from animal to human so that we can advance the state of biomedical research to create vaccines in case something like this ever develops naturally in the wild through a wet market or in case a foreign country develops bioweapons. We'll already have the vaccine for it. This is the sort of like the the nuclear weapon defense. Why why did we do so much nuclear nuclear weapons testing even after we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki that we needed bigger and bigger, you know, hydrogen bombs and atom bombs and neutron bombs because Russia was developing
Starting point is 01:26:49 nuclear bombs. And so we needed even bigger nuclear bombs than they needed. Of course, that set off the nuclear arms race and effectively defined several decades of U.S. history. But that ended when there was the sort of nuclear treaties that everyone agreed to put down. But the fact is, is basically every country is signatory to these bioweapons treaties as well. And what it looks like here is in the name of, so the charitable cases, we're doing this in Ukraine and China and Canada because we can't do it here in the US. It would be too dangerous or we have laws and regulations and contravention of doing that. Of course, Ukraine is a lawless zone. We just saw the struggle for control over the legal system and the prosecutors in Ukraine in that John Kerry clip. So the charitable cases, we're doing it so that we
Starting point is 01:27:42 can make vaccines there. Of course, you see Pfizer and the biosecurity world all over the Ukraine map. But there's a potentially darker story here, which is that if you ever needed to destabilize Russia, and you're right on its border with Ukraine, you could see a pandemic popping off in the western part of Russia, and it would be very easy to do. You simply carry pathogens over the border, and you could do the same thing potentially there that the military intended to do in Cuba in the late 1950s, the same thing that was done in North Korea. And there's a strange habit of these outbreaks breaking out in conflict zones. The Pentagon talked about this in the 1990s when everyone can read Thomas Barnett's Pentagon's New Map. It's a book and a video series presentation
Starting point is 01:28:40 you can still find on YouTube where he justified the post 9-11 military expansion of the American empire by saying, we need to fold the core of the rim into the core. The rim are all the countries that NATO has not yet conquered because from the rim, three things are coming out of it. And he said, drugs, terrorism, and pandemics. So because, oh, these mystery pandemics keep coming out of the countries we have not yet attained political vassalage control over, we can use that as a predicate to get military boots on the ground. And when you have these massive medical facilities, you need security to guard them. So boom, just like that, you've got a military presence to protect all the hospital workers and the clinics and the public health
Starting point is 01:29:29 ecosystem. Well, now you've got your special forces in there. Now you have your, you know, your internal foreign defense funds that are going to that. You basically are already halfway pregnant in terms of military presence there. We did this in Africa, for example, with AIDS by alleging that Africa was, you know, suffering this massive AIDS epidemic. We did this in Africa, for example, with AIDS. By alleging that Africa was, you know, suffering this massive AIDS epidemic, we managed to get a giant military presence in Africa. You see the same thing that happened with MERS and with SARS and with Zika. Basically, the military and medicine follow very closely. Donald Rumsfeld, I should note, who was the head of the Pentagon for Bush, what was he doing right before that? He got plucked out of Gilead Sciences,
Starting point is 01:30:12 the major pharmaceutical company who had come to play one of the leading roles in COVID with Gilead funding the production of COVID vaccines. Well, what was Donald Rumsfeld doing as the chairman and CEO of Gilead Sciences and then going immediately to become the secretary of war for the Bush administration during 9-11? If you folks remember, it was the anthrax scare that actually got Congress to authorize the military invasion of Afghanistan right after 9-11. Where did that anthrax come from? Well, it came from the high-level military facility at Fort Meade in Maryland. It was actually a U.S. biolab that those very anthrax vials came from that was used as the justification. What I'm saying is, is these things, we don't yet know the answer. Sometimes a, a gain of function, freak mutant virus creation on the Eastern edge
Starting point is 01:31:16 of Ukraine to create a vaccine is just a freak mucosoid mutant super, you know, biological super weapon to create a vaccine. Maybe as Freud said, you know, a cigar is just a cigar. But I have a lot of questions. And I think only Pam Bondi and this executive branch can can really get the answer. So I want to play just really quickly, just on the side here, Zelensky at the White House. He had 40 minutes of a pretty, what would be considered relatively normative meeting. And then Zelensky threatens Trump. And that's where things just got ballistic.
Starting point is 01:32:00 And I just want to ask sort of a, you know, round out a closing here on what's going to happen to Zelensky. Because Zelensky, I think, I think things, the world changed forever here. And now you're having Lindsey Graham saying this guy doesn't deserve to be in power anymore. Zelensky says you're going to feel threatened. You'll feel it here in America. And that's what causes Trump, right, to pop off. Suddenly Trump goes full, you know, full Gambino crime family on his ass. And, you know, even his most ardent supporters on the right are saying he's, you know, he's he's toast, he's finished. So, you know, a wounded dog.
Starting point is 01:32:41 How does he still bite and is quite dangerous? And what do you think is the future for Zelensky? Well, it could go a lot of ways. He could continue to be in power. He could get offset support from NATO, the EU, the UN. There could be a full-on pivot to China from the EU. You could see China playing a really interesting role here if they want to both secure cheap energy from Russia and secure political vassalage control of EU countries. If they're financially desperate to prop up Ukraine and Zelensky, you could see favorable infrastructure deals and port deals and turning over of state assets and joint partnerships with China to provide offset funds from the U.S. I think without those offset funds, Zelensky's time is very limited. The fact is, if elections were forced to be held in Ukraine, I think it's highly unlikely Zelensky could continue.
Starting point is 01:33:47 I think he would lose in a fair election. I think unless you have USAID and the State Department and the NGO Plex propping up the support for him and his network, I think he would get washed away in a landslide. Now that USAID funding has been totally slashed. Now that artificial prop up has been kicked out. I think the table collapses unless an alternative support is put in place. But right now they're scrambling to do that. I think in the very evening after this flare up in the White House, Zelensky got on emergency phone calls with with Keir Starmer in the UK with with an EU delegation, went straight to NATO. So these issues are all totally interconnected to each other.
Starting point is 01:34:36 NATO just just today or just yesterday was, you know, Elon called for the US to leave NATO or suggested that that would be a good idea. You see senators like Mike Lee openly calling for that. You see J.D. Vance openly floating the idea that if the EU does not get rid of its Digital Censorship Act and does not bring free speech back to Europe, then the U.S. support for NATO is no longer makes sense because we're funding something directly at odds with the U.S. First Amendment. So everything's on the table right now. It's a tremendously exciting time because all these issues are totally interconnected. It's a scary time because you don't know if it's going to result in the total loss of U.S. soft power, if it's going to result in the loss of U.S. political vassalage control of countries that
Starting point is 01:35:32 have traditionally been under the U.S. thumb, if it will backfire in 25 different permutation ways. But it also, for the first time, sets us on a track to potentially have a genuine America First policy that reaps all the benefits that we've seen so far with the Trump administration. You've had trillions of dollars invested in the U.S. from foreign countries, Saudi Arabia, Japan. You've even seen doubling down of reinvestment from U.S. multinational companies like Apple investing tens of billions of dollars. This domestic onshoring has been going extremely well in the first several months. But I think now it comes down to whether or not there is perceived to be a light at the end of the tunnel for NATO in this process. I think they will. Trump has been they
Starting point is 01:36:21 tried everything. They tried 91 felony charges. They tried shooting him in the face. They tried, you know, all the, you know, censorship and everything. But a coalition has come together that has thwarted that. And now they are left with, is Trump just an unstoppable force that you effectively need to get out of the way of for the next several years? If Democrats can topple the House in 2026, it may be that there's only effectively a year and a half run on Trump being able to institute these changes. If they can run out the clock on it and then try to set up a Nikki Haley type figure to come back and take on a J.D. Vance or a reformed Marco Rubio in the 2028 election. We've been here before is what I'm saying. The Minsk Accords were a time right after the 2014 coup where we struck a
Starting point is 01:37:13 peace deal with Russia. And in the back of that, we were doing a massive military buildup for Ukraine to seize eastern Ukraine and Crimea back. And that was actually working marvelously until Russia stepped in militarily. You could see the same thing playing out five, ten years from now, but it will require massive military support for Ukraine. And it looks like Trump may only provide that if there's a peace deal struck. I could see, for example, Ukraine aid flowing again if Zelensky agrees to give up territory in the East and agrees to a Democratic election. I could very easily see another $100, $150 billion, not a trillion like Chris Murphy and others won. But then I could see that being ramped up over time. So right now we're in the primordial soup stage of this, barring a crisis event.
Starting point is 01:38:08 But right now the Trump administration seems to have the leverage. We just saw the UK ambassador do messaging very different than Karis Darmer, saying that Zelensky should agree to a peace deal. We saw the Norwegian government actually step in, the defense minister, and override the decision by Norway not to refuel the U.S. Navy tankers. You've seen the head of NATO be sort of cagey on the topic rather than going full on against Trump. I don't think anyone wants to stand directly in the face of the Trump train. It's more like what can we do to outmaneuver and build our coalition in the background so that a couple months from now we can challenge it more directly? Wounded dogs, Mike. They're still dangerous, man.
Starting point is 01:38:56 There's so much at stake. And there's so much wealth and power that is currently on the chessboard. It's dangerous. It's exciting, but it's very unstable. And it's scary. It's scary because we're now hearing investigative reports that potentially Matthew Thomas Crooks, the first Trump assassin who was able to hit trump with a bullet as you just mentioned that he might not have been working alone that he might have been part of a team that he had
Starting point is 01:39:29 offshore accounts that he was working with various profiles on german belgian and new zealand platforms what the hell is that nobody's haven't been able to crack his phone yet and then this the next dude man man, the next Ryan, Ryan Ralph is like a Ukrainian zealot traveled to Ukraine a million times. And it just, it just is a scary time. It just seems like there's so, there's so much that is being reset.
Starting point is 01:39:58 And yeah, we just, we want Trump to stay protected and to see this, to see this through. Because because I think I think you really could be on the beyond the precipice of a much more peaceful and much more sane world. But again, you know, I guess I guess we'll see. How do you think it's going to shake out? What's your guess? You're smarter than me. What's your best guess? for the border wall and the FBI corruption around Russiagate and all those things are still very
Starting point is 01:40:45 important. But I think this process of being targeted by our own intelligence communities, the corruption that we've seen in Ukraine, the disaster of the foreign policy establishment during the Biden term, and the self-awareness of the interconnectedness about Soros prosecutors and USAID funding and these, you know, the control over prosecutors by, you know, the Tony Blinken, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden set, and Kamala Harris herself being, you know, a prosecutor, you know, propped up from the state of California to the Senate Intelligence Committee and then on to the DNC candidate has actually made the MAGA movement much more aware of the international side of the equation and its thumb on the press of domestic politics. And I've been overjoyed to see J.D. Vance take up these issues personally. The fact
Starting point is 01:41:36 that he was right in the ring with Trump, in some ways even more aggressive than Trump on this, means that now you need to assassinate everyone, right? Like, yeah, I mean, it's dark and bleak to say it, but, you know, there's a reason that the president and the vice president don't fly in the same airplane, you know, that there's that, that you, that if something were to happen to Trump at this point, I think that that would create a psychic wound in the American people. Every person on earth, whether they like Trump or didn't like Trump, whether they wanted it to happen or not, would have to begrudgingly accept that this was not a Lee Harvey Oswald type situation where you can get away with calling it a lone gunman and then sit on the evidence for 60 years. Even that is, you know, these things have a long memory. conferences and State Department and USAID conferences when all these folks who are,
Starting point is 01:42:46 you know, heads of policy planning for Intel agencies go over to Brookings or Atlantic Council or CFR to talk about what's on their minds. They are still upset over the public backlash over the JFK assassination from 60 years ago. They still talk about these conspiracy theories are pernicious and won't go away. Well, imagine that with Trump. So I think it's going to cost them a lot to do it. That's not to say it can't happen. But the fact is, it would be hard to pry the MAGA movement off into a Nikki Haley, George Bush 2.0 style if Trump is made a sort of Jesus martyr figure for the perpetuity of U.S. history with something as severe as an assassination. So I'm heartened to see the secondary leadership class like Marco Rub rubio and jd vance um being faithful to to the
Starting point is 01:43:47 mega vision here's jd's tweet you mentioned conspiracy theorists and jd and so it's just we got a tweet for that mike and it's jd just bodying your friend chris murphy doing doing the same song and dance doing the same absurdist song and like really really going galaxy brain here chris murphy saying that donald trump is siding with so it's like russiagate 3.0.0.0 trump is siding with russia in order so that he could create a russia here with elon musk so they could share ukraine's minerals together with with elon and then you know trump and putin will go to mars right like and split off the planet well every accusation is confession right i mean it was it was president bill clinton in 1998 who endorsed putin for president it was uh it was hillary clinton who personally negotiated the Uranium One deal
Starting point is 01:44:46 with Russia. It was Barack Obama who said to Dmitry Medvedev, tell Vladimir I'll have a lot more wiggle room or whatever his phrase was. I'll have a lot more buffer. I'll have a lot more flexibility after the election. It was it was all it was it was it was them who were actually doing all that. The issue is, is it relied on political vassalage control of Ukraine and deeper penetration into Russia than we currently have after the failed coups in Russia around Pussy Riot and Alexei Navalny, and frankly, pissing off the Russians so much with all the USAID-funded rent-a-riots in the country. And Russia kicked NED out, kicked USAID out. And frankly, if you ever want that influence again in Russia, you're going to need a peace period and a show of good faith to show that when we extend our hand,
Starting point is 01:45:45 we're not going to bite theirs as soon as they reach out. So it's an exciting period, but it's a double edged sword. The one thing we know is it's probably the greatest TV we've ever seen. I don't know how anyone can watch Netflix anymore. The best show on earth is just a live feed of the white house that's right you don't have the cards you don't have the cards man playing do not play uno do not play uno against donald trump ladies and gentlemen there's so much to get to obviously mike knows all of it you kind of follow you got to follow mike here on x obviously a million people we're just going to round up mike a million people follow mike on x you must be one of them and uh man mike was right here's the article clinton endorses vladimir putin under president putin russia has a chance to build prosperity and strength.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Safeguarding the rule of law. Look at, man, you know, there's some cold comfort in the talking points being the same for the last hundred years. Yeah. It's great. It's actually, it's really nice. Like, it's actually nice that it's just the same talking points. Scroll over, please. So the quote is perfect it could be written today it's 30 year old quote because it could be this is like a tweet
Starting point is 01:47:11 could be like a tweet today it's incredible ah yes Mike thank you for illuminating for us some of these shocking mysteries what the hell happened to the bio labs there what will become of these people I think they're all going to the Hague, man. I think, I think when it's all said and done, uh, even the people, even some of the libs in my neighborhood that have re put up their Ukraine flags, I think they're all coming down. I think people will be ashamed they were ever a part of any of this to be quite honest with you. Well, it's, it's an exciting time to be alive, but yeah, Benny, thank you for covering all this and always being so on the ball and avant-garde and all this.
Starting point is 01:47:50 So always a great time talking to you. One million for the great Mike Benz. One million. Thanks, brother. Thanks. I always love talking to Mike. Insane conversation. We have to go.
Starting point is 01:48:11 We have to head up to D.C. We have Trumpmageddon tonight inside of the United States Capitol. Please be joining us at 7 p.m. We will be streaming live from inside of Speaker Johnson's office. Our verse of the day today from Titus 1. They must be silenced because they are turning whole families away from the truth by their false teaching. And they only do it for money. Speak the truth, ladies and gentlemen. It is empowering.
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Starting point is 01:51:01 Take the wisdom and knowledge I've learned from the failures when I got sent down my rookie year. All the injuries I had to overcome. Your mind is the most important tool you have in life. Be relentless. Keep charging. It matters how you talk to yourself, how you look at the world. That matters. We talk about that.
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