The Benny Show - 🚨US House Votes to SUBPOENA Bill and Hillary Clinton Over Epstein | DOJ Meeting Maxwell Right NOW, with Guests Chairman Jim Jordan Rep. Chip Roy and Rep. Mark Harris

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

House panel votes to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton over links to Jeffrey Epstein as DOJ meets with Ghislaine Maxwell, Justice Department Announces Formation of Strike Force to Assess Evidence Publ...icized by Tulsi Gabbard, Chairman Jim Jordan, Rep. Chip Roy and Rep. Mark Harris join the show. Check Out Our Partners: MASA CHIPS: Go to http://masachips.com/BENNY and use code BENNY for 25% off your first order Allio Capital: Text ”BENNY” to 511511 Bon Charge: Go to https://www.boncharge.com/BENNY and use coupon code BENNY to save 15% Patriot Mobile: Go to https://www.PatriotMobile.com/Benny and get A FREE MONTH Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thursday, July 24th, 2025, Bill and Hillary Clinton finally have been dragged into a scandal of their own making. There's nobody who made Jeffrey Epstein more than the marks of Bill and Hill. Nobody has more to hide on this issue and we can prove it to you. They finally been subpoenaed by the US House of Representatives. We'll have Jim Jordan joining the show very soon, actually, to talk about it. And trust me, we will ask.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Vote to subpoena Bill and Hillary over links to Jeffrey Epstein as DOJ meets with Jelaine Maxwell, a meeting that is happening right now. And I want to order my producers to be on Maxwell watch. I want every bit of information, every scintilla of what's happening right now in Tallahassee, the federal courthouse.
Starting point is 00:00:53 There will be a meeting happening today and may well be happening right now. Maxwell's lawyer is there. Todd Blanche is the deputy attorney general and he's gonna be meeting with Jelaine Maxwell today in order to depose her. Jelaine Maxwell has also been sent a subpoena by the house, that's for August 11th.
Starting point is 00:01:10 So things are happening. The wheels of justice are moving. And man, there's so much panic inside of the Obama world. Let me tell you what, James Clapper, James Clapper straight up says, I'm gonna flip. It's wild. I think they got rats. They got rats in their ship.
Starting point is 00:01:28 People are going to flip on Obama. Get ready, man. Obama better be getting his paddleboard ready and Martha's Vineyard gets scooting out to shore. General Flynn told us they should seize his passport because Obama will flee. Ladies and gentlemen, a strike force has been announced in order to assess evidence publicized
Starting point is 00:01:46 by Tulsi Gabbard. We're going to talk about what a strike force means, but the TLDR is that a strike force is an operation inside of the FBI that is intended on swift legal action and fact-finding in order to elicit immediate justice. It is what you would think about a strike force in military terms, fast movement, very heavy hitters, door kickers, right?
Starting point is 00:02:20 Bomb throwers. The strike force is something that is not often used and we're gonna explain what it is and how it's going to work against a very, very nervous group of individuals. So Barack Obama, James Comey, James Clapper, John Brennan, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, the wheel of time turns and it is a flat circle. Here we go. Chairman Jim Jordan on the show, also Chip Roy on the show,
Starting point is 00:02:47 also representative Mark Harris on the show, three members of Congress, big news out of Congress, and we are locked and loaded. My name is Benny Johnson and this is the Benny Show. Why are we locked and loaded? Well, we eat our protein. How do I eat my protein? Well, oftentimes chicken, sometimes steak.
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Starting point is 00:04:46 I got this Kevin Spacey clip that I find so interesting. It's a very unique clip. This is a clip that's gonna blow your mind. We got these photos of Kevin Spacey and Jolene Maxwell on the throne, on the Queen's throne. Shall we get them? Yeah, let's get them and toss them up. I wanna like establish something for you here,
Starting point is 00:05:03 which is that the Epstein rabbit hole goes just so much deeper than you could possibly imagine. And we all know how creepy the Clintons were in Haiti, the Clinton Foundation, what they were doing, the child sex trafficking and everything. It's like so dirty. It's so filthy. We've had experts on the show talking about it at length, but let's just say the Clintons are very dark, sick and sinister people and they have very creepy personal lives. And there was a trip for the Clinton foundation, a humanitarian trip to Africa. And they just happened to be using Jeffrey Epstein playing no relation.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I'm sure Bill Clinton had to go speak in England. So they went through the Buckingham palace and sat on the King and Queen's throne. We should look at that. There it is. Who's that? Well, it's the person that the DOJ will be meeting with today. Hopefully they'll ask about this photo.
Starting point is 00:05:55 The other person is Kevin Spacey. So you have Jeffrey Epstein's Madame, flying Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey and some other Hollywood celebrities around the world for the Clinton foundation to go help the children. Huh? Oh, okay. Got it.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And here's Kevin Spacey proving that Kevin Spacey was well, let's just call it what it is. He's an Academy Award winner. He's an Oscar winner. He's somebody who has, you know, obviously A-list Hollywood fame, especially when this photo was being taken. He's the A-list of the A-list.
Starting point is 00:06:36 This is well-documented. Financier Jeffrey Epstein once flew Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey to Africa. Oh, wow. What happened on that trip exactly? Well, Kevin Spacey, in an act of bravery, I think you could call it, did a not so well publicized interview with Piers Morgan.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Fascinating interview, where Kevin Spacey decided to explain what happened on that plane. This is a remarkable moment, and it's worth examining and re-examining from a moral standpoint and from the standpoint of like what exactly was Bill Clinton doing with Jeffrey Epstein? Let's let somebody who is a first-hand witness explain. Go. In 2015, I started seeing reports online, things on my Twitter account that I had flown to this guy, Jeffrey Epstein's, island and I had abused young girls.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And I was like, I mean, if you'd asked me in 2015, maybe even if you'd asked me in 2002, did I know a guy named Jeffrey Epstein, I probably would have said no. Well, of course, I have since learned who he is, and I have since been able to go back and find out that the airplane that we flew on for this humanitarian mission was owned by Jeffrey Epstein, and to then learn, oh, he was actually on some of those flights, and this Maxwell woman was on some of those flights. I didn't know him. I've never spent any time with him. I was with the Clinton Foundation people. That's who I was with. Now, what I understand is that he didn't start to be investigated until 2005 by authorities in Florida. So here's what I can tell you. This Maxwell moment, she
Starting point is 00:08:29 was one of many people to sit down next to me in that throne room. I have no relationship with her. I had no relationship with him. I mean, he's not my friend. I'm not a confidant. I've never spent time with him. And interestingly, I will say this, I was very fortunate that President Clinton introduced me a lot of business leaders in London because he knew I was coming to the Old Vic. And I developed relationships with Robert Earl,
Starting point is 00:08:56 Pula Ludobovic, Robert Earl, a lot of wonderful people, Richard Caring, people who supported the work that we did at the old Vic and gave money to us. Do you know who I never asked for anything? Was Jeffrey Epstein. I didn't want to be around this guy, because I felt he put the president at risk on that trip to South Africa, because there were these young girls. And we were like, who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:09:22 So I will say this. There were young girls on those. You can almost see the exact moment where Kevin Spacey, if you would load it as a play beside please, and you can pause it. You can see the exact moment when Kevin Spacey, if you would load it as a playbyside please, and you can pause it, you can see the exact moment Kevin Spacey said too much. I'm proud of Kevin Spacey. I'm glad he said this. Thanks. Maybe he's one of the few people who's actually been honest here. Right near the very end, Killer Kline, you can see Kevin Spacey's like,
Starting point is 00:10:01 ah, did I just tell the truth there? I'm angry at Jeffrey Epstein because he put the president in peril. Well, what peril did he put him in? There were all these teeny girls on the flight, you know? And now you know, I'm not saying that Kevin Spacey's a good man. I'm not saying that Jalaine Maxwell
Starting point is 00:10:22 deserves to be out of prison. I think they're all monsters. I think they all quite frankly deserve jail for the rest of their lives and Jeffrey Epstein deserved to be rotting in prison as well. And he should have been, were it not for our intel agencies springing him to go abuse and torture children at the protection, with the full protection of the federal government. What I am glad for though here is the desperation of Kevin Spacey in order to simply tell us the truth,
Starting point is 00:10:51 in order to clear his own name. Kevin Spacey has very publicly, let me grab that tweet, very publicly called for the release of all Epstein documents. I think that that's honorable. Kevin Spacey says there's a bunch of teeny little girls that came running out of the plane
Starting point is 00:11:07 as soon as they got airborne. What? That is angry. He was angry at Jeffrey Epstein because Bill Clinton was enjoying it a lot. There's photos and videos I can't show you because they're, well, let's just say that the people who own them are quite litigious,
Starting point is 00:11:28 but there are verified photos and videos of Bill Clinton getting massages, standing on the plane with Jelaine Maxwell on the plane manifest. And we know as a matter of fact that every time that Bill Clinton flew on this plane, he dumped his secret service. He said, screw you guys.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You're not allowed to be on this plane with me. Very unique and precarious situation here. Here's Spacey. "'Release the Epsiom files, all of them, "'for those of us with nothing to fear. "'The truth can't come soon enough. "'I hate to make it about me, but the media already has,' "'says Kevin Spacey.
Starting point is 00:12:03 "'This is seen by 18 million people. That's gone viral. Spacey repeats and confirms it at the end, says producer ALX. This was a request that I had right before the show started because I just, I can't believe that this clip is real. Has anybody ever done a follow-up with Kevin Spacey on this? We'll get to our news.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I know that we're just vamping here, but like maybe you haven't seen this because well, they've tried as hard as they possibly can to bury this when it had to do with Bill Clinton. And when it has to do with Dershowitz or whatever, Democrat billionaire wasn't tangled with Epstein. Bill Gates, you Gates, for instance. Reid Hoffman.
Starting point is 00:12:48 They love to bury these things, when it's them. But as soon as Donald Trump's name gets dragged through the mud on this, well, then it's a ravenous, psychotic, little rabies frothing at the mouth. Attack on every bit of morsel we can get from Epstein. Oh, look, there's a photo of Epstein at Trump's wedding. Well, we already knew that. All that was already public.
Starting point is 00:13:11 They keep publishing these like, oh, look, Trump flew on Epstein's jet one time down to Palm Beach. Well, yeah, we already knew that. That's been public for years, bro. Like what? Stop running these like bombshells as though like nobody knew about this stuff. You're finding something new. It's really, you're embarrassing yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:27 This, now this is new. And what's more important about these kinds of trips and these kinds of stories is that this stuff is happening after Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex predator. You do understand, you do have to break it down into two. We all know that the world has become increasingly divided, politically, socially, and economically. But many of these divisions could stem from a deeper misunderstanding
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Starting point is 00:15:34 or continue to snuggle up to Epstein. There is a marked moment. The moment is 2007 and 2008. Point being that you have here on tape, Kevin Spacey saying that there were a bunch of teeny little girls that came running out of the plane. Is this just that 11 seconds? Let's listen to it one more time just in case you missed it. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I felt he put the president at risk on that trip to South Africa because there were these young girls and we were like, who is this guy? So I will say this. There were young girls on those flights. There were young girls on those flights. Yeah. Executive producer, ALX tells me
Starting point is 00:16:15 that Piers asks further follow-up questions and he just confirms there were just these young girls that come prancing out of the plane as soon as they take off. Now ask yourself two real very important questions. One, what would you do if your buddy had a private jet and you got on it and as soon as it took off a bunch of little girls came out in their underwear? Like what the hell would you do? I'd probably be convicted of murder or you you know, I'd be acquitted actually
Starting point is 00:16:46 by a floor by a Florida jury. I assure you of that because I'd throw them out of the plane while it's flying. That's what I do. You know, I would like use Starlink to call the authorities wherever we were landing to have my buddy arrested. Obviously I would be morally repulsed. I would start to fight. I would realize that like my life is in that this is so evil and deplorable and morally wrong that I needed, I needed to get off the plane. No matter what I pull a nine 11 hijacker, I'd run into the cockpit land now.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I mean, what would you do? What do you moral normal person do? What does it say about Bill Clinton? These Hollywood elites, the Clinton Foundation executives, that they were totally down with this. That this was what they wanted. In fact, this wasn't the bug. It was the feature of using Jeffrey Epstein's plane. You understand that when this trip had taken place,
Starting point is 00:17:54 we already have the manifest. We have the documents, please put them up. We have the manifests from the flight logs. We can show you the flight logs. We can show you Bill Clinton dumping his secret service and using Epstein's plane to fly all over the world. His name is right there. And these are just the ones that are publicly available.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And they've been available for years. They've been available for a very, very long time. So we'll always show you the original documents. You can see the logs here. Bill Clinton flew on sex offenders jet much more than previously, don't. But like it's worth asking, nobody had any moral compunction to say,
Starting point is 00:18:36 oh, did these teeny little dancing girls, like those are bad. We shouldn't like that. We shouldn't do this. You know how big this jet is? You know, it's just the size of an air force one jet, right? You know, it's a huge jet. There are, were compartments in the jet. We have a tour of the jet.
Starting point is 00:18:52 In fact, there's a old video where I think it was VH one. I'm not sure. ALX can grab it. Where do they do a tour of the jet? And the jet is like all these private bedrooms. It's disgusting. It's sick. Okay. That's sick. And so this is why it's important to make a distinction about Bill Clinton versus Donald Trump. Of course also Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:19:17 was like a what? Reality TV host at the time. Bill Clinton was the former president. There it is. Bill Clinton was the former president. There it is. Bill Clinton was the former president. Look at the size of that thing. It's an Air Force One jet. These things cost like $80,000 an hour to operate. How'd she get so much money exactly? Where'd some money come from?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Can anybody explain? Where'd some money come from? $80,000 an hour. Just a fuel and operation licenses to fly these suckers. Where did that money come from exactly? Yep, all these little private compartments, all these little bedrooms. Everyone wondering what the hell went on there.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Well, let's just go ahead and talk to the people who were on that jet. Kevin Spacey says, yeah, you know, bunch of little girls come dancing out, come prancing out. And I thought it was really bad look for Bill Clinton. Yeah, okay. Here's what's also a very bad look for Bill Clinton. The news of the morning.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Bill Clinton has been subpoenaed. Thank the Lord and Hillary Clinton over links to Epstein and Gillian Maxwell. Let's read. House Oversight Panel Subcommittee voted to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton on Wednesday over their allegations to notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, Gillian Maxwell. Scott Perry introduced the motion, friend of the show, kick-ass dude from Pennsylvania, introduced the motion, friend of the show, kick ass dude from Pennsylvania, introduced the motion, force peanut during federal law enforcement subcommittee hearing and it was approved by Republican led panel.
Starting point is 00:20:54 No roll call vote taken. The Clintons and several former top justice department officials like Comey, who gave by the way, Epstein his little sweetheart deal, special counsel Robert Mueller, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Merrick Garland. These are the people who were part of the actual coverup. Bill Barr, Jeff Sessions and Alberto Gonzalez,
Starting point is 00:21:16 somebody that we've been mentioning and name dropping on this program. We're all included in the list of subpoenas stopped by Perry to expand the full committee's investigation into Jelaine Maxwell. House oversight committee chairman, James Comer, said he would need to formally issue the subpoenas sought by Perry to expand the full committee's investigation into Jelaine Maxwell. House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer said he would need to formally issue the subpoenas to the Clintons and others to be compelled
Starting point is 00:21:31 to provide testimony and documents to the panel. Subpoena will be issued in the future, spokesperson for this House committee told The Post. The former president acknowledged in his 2004 book, "'My Life After the White House,' that he flew aboard Epstein's private plane in connection with the work for the Clinton Global Initiative.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I wish I had never met him, Clinton wrote of Epstein. Really, Bill? Adding that traveling on his plane was not worth the years of questions afterward. The former president, who has not been accused of any wrongdoing in the Epstein case, except for by the original source documents of the depositions of the abused women.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I can't believe they write this kind of stuff. I'll show you, I'll show you the documents myself. Okay, here we go. According to visitor logs, Epstein visited the White House at least 17 times, beginning shortly after Clinton was sworn into office. Wow, wow, wow, would you look at that. 17 times, that's a lot of visits. Subcommittee also approved a measure during Comer to subpoena the Justice Department for the release of the communications between Biden administration officials in the Epstein case. Subcommittee's
Starting point is 00:22:41 actions come after Comer subpoenaed Maxwell then serving 20 year prison sentence. Deposition is scheduled for August 11 for Maxwell to be subpoenaed by Congress, but that conversation is happening right now with Maxwell and the Justice Department. Very interesting. Fascinating buildup to all of this. I find this really amazing and I have yet to like punch it out into our ex feed, but
Starting point is 00:23:15 just amusing off the top of the dome here. How often has Bill and Hillary Clinton been interviewed on MSNBC and CNN? It feels like once a week Hillary Clinton comes crawling up from some tunnel somewhere in New York and gives some mewling, bitching diatribe about the current administration. They stole the election. But I can't think of a single time that a single on-air reporter on live TV or prerecorded has ever asked Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton who are often on air and often available
Starting point is 00:24:03 for questions about Epstein. Strange to me. They can't, they're just frothing at the mouth like ravenous dogs going after President Trump about this. Every detail of President Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is being overturned and looked at and being published in lurid detail. Yes, Trump the thespian and the poet writing about Epstein, his sweet nothings to Epstein
Starting point is 00:24:33 and painting him pictures. That's definitely Donald Trump. That's the, my red button is bigger than yours. Kill all the terrorists, you dumb bastards. These are just quoting Trump's kill all the terrorists, you dumb bastards. These are just quoting Trump's on social media. That sounds just like him, right? Nobody's ever asked the Clintons about this. Isn't that strange? Isn't it a little odd to you? It's peculiar.
Starting point is 00:24:58 We have just little scraps here and there, okay? Here's a couple of scraps. Bill Clinton has a painting hanging inside of Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. In fact, it's the most expensive mansion in all of New York. It's the largest single townhome in all of New York. Jeffrey Epstein owned it. He was leasing it from the State Department.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Do you know that? The State Department seized this building from Iran during Iran-Contra from the Iranian government, started leasing it to Jeffrey Epstein, the State Department, your landlord, it's a little weird, a little confusing. And inside of that building is this painting. There's not an oil painting of President Trump,
Starting point is 00:25:37 there was an oil painting of Bill Clinton wearing a DNA stained dress. For those of you who know, you know. Bill Clinton liked him young. This is according to the deposition of some of the abused women. Maybe you don't like it, but maybe you're upset about this, but I don't care.
Starting point is 00:25:59 This is what's in black and white. These are the court documents from Jelaine Maxwell's civil trial that was released about a year ago. Did Jeffrey ever talk to you about Bill Clinton? Yeah, he said he liked him, yeah. You know, Donald Trump's mentioned in these documents and none of the, like Donald Trump's mentioned
Starting point is 00:26:13 because everybody keeps asking about him. And all the, you know, women, the trafficked women are like, who, what, no, huh, what, no. That's every single answer. You can go through them yourself. Just hundreds of documents, thousands of documents that were released about a year ago. They're strange.
Starting point is 00:26:34 There's this peculiar clip from Project Veritas where this reporter, Amy Rohrbach, explains that she had been trying to get the Epstein story up and out on ABC News. And that according to the victims and the victim statements, she had everyone. Now, there's a name missing from her list. That name is Donald Trump. But the name that's on the list is Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And she says something else. We had photos, we had videos, we had all the girls talking to us. We had everyone, the Clintons. That's what she says. Don't tell me that Amy Rohrbach is some like MAGA right wing Republican. She's not. This is, this is, was the most authoritative voice on ABC news at the time saying this off camera. I've had the story for three years. I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts. We would not put it on the air. First of all, I was told who's Jeffrey Epstein? No one knows who that is. This is a stupid story. Then the palace found out that we had her whole allegations
Starting point is 00:27:40 about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways. We were so afraid we wouldn't be able to interview Kate and Will that also quashed the story. And then Alan Dershowitz was also implicated in it because of the planes. She told me everything. She had pictures, she had everything. She was in hiding for 12 years. We convinced her to come out. We convinced her to talk to us. It was unbelievable what we had Clinton. We have everything. I tried for three years to get it on to no avail and now it's all coming out and it's like these new revelations and I freaking had all of it. I'm so pissed right now. Like every day I get more and more. so pissed right now. Like every day I get more and more.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Shockingly missing from this reporter's firsthand witness accounts of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes is the name Donald Trump. Shockingly missing from all the Epstein testimony that has been released is named Donald Trump. The federal government's attempt to release all of the witness statements yesterday was blocked by an Obama judge. We'll see what happens in New York, but don't hold your breath. Somebody was holding their breath,
Starting point is 00:28:56 was Bill Clinton, this one and single only time. After this, we get to Jim Jordan. I'm very excited to hear Jim Jordan's take on this and a number of other scandals that are embroiling right now. But we have Bill Clinton being asked by a young independent reporter, I think just like a kid.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I don't even know where the original video is from, but it's just like a dude in a handshake selfie line. And Bill gets asked, this is the singular time. Can you believe this? The only time that Bill Clinton has ever been asked about this on camera. Tell me, how does this play for Bill Clinton go? Any comments on the alleged allegation
Starting point is 00:29:39 of your contradiction with Jeffrey Epstein? No. What? You see that? You see that at the very end? This, this is why you watch these things. This is what we call weaponized autism here. This is why you watch these things. Look at them. Look at them go.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Look at that. Look at that. Look back. A bill. Look at that. Look at that glare. Oh man. Ah, he's going son. Look at that, look at that, look back of Bill. Look at that, look at that glare. Oh man, he's going, son, you're gonna get a visit from Hillary
Starting point is 00:30:11 in your federal penitentiary. Goodness gracious. I think the evidence is clear. Well, the evidence is that Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House 17 times, that Bill Clinton flew over 30 times on the Lolita Express, and that this painting was hanging inside of Jeffrey Epstein's house.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's a very unique relationship they must have had. And according to Kevin Spacey, young girls came out and were there on the plane with Bill Clinton. Kevin Spacey's firsthand witness. When are we gonna spook him? Let's ask the great Jim Jordan, a man who of course needs absolutely no introduction,
Starting point is 00:30:49 joining us. He's the chairman of the judiciary committee. And he's gonna have, I think, quite a bit to say on this and many other issues. Let's rock and roll. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Mr. Chairman, it's been a shockingly interesting news cycle here on so many fronts. And I don't even quite know where to begin, but since we're talking about the Jelaine Maxwell testimony and the subpoena from Congress, and then also the subpoena of Bill and Hillary Clinton by the weaponization subcommittee, maybe we should start there. the Jelaine Maxwell testimony and the subpoena from Congress, and then also the subpoena of Bill and Hillary Clinton
Starting point is 00:31:25 by the weaponization subcommittee, maybe we should start there. I feel like there's been a lack of curiosity about the relationship with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of that. What do you expect? Well, I think that that was included in the subpoena that came out of the subcommittee yesterday
Starting point is 00:31:42 in Chairman Comer's full committee. So I trust Jamie to deal with that subcommittee and what they decided. I also trust the president and his team. One of the things we're doing on our committee too, and this is just part of the annual trek that the attorney general and the FBI director make to Capitol
Starting point is 00:32:05 Hill. So we always have that hearing, that oversight hearing where you get the attorney general and the FBI director to come speak in front of the Judiciary Committee. So we've been working on that. That will take place when we get back in September. So a few weeks from now, we're going to have Pam Bondi in front of the committee, where she'll be answering all kinds of questions. I'm going to be probably focused on this whole Russia hoax stuff that we're now getting stuff from the director of national intelligence, but she'll be available for all kinds of questions on a number of different topics and subjects, including the Epstein files, as will Cash Patel when we have him then the following week. So we've been working on that. It looks like that's going to be set for September. And I think that's an opportunity for
Starting point is 00:32:43 us to ask a number of questions on a number of important subjects. You're sort of the master at seeing through the Fed set for fuse here and some of the language and the smoke screens. You've asked some major questions about Epstein on our program before. And so the floor is yours.
Starting point is 00:33:00 What would you like to see happen here as far as disclosure on this subject? Because I hate seeing it spun into the next Russia, Russia. I hate seeing it spun into like partisan attack vectors. I'd rather just have full transparency, but your take. Yeah, I think it is partisan. The obvious thing is, where was the Biden Justice Department
Starting point is 00:33:23 in the four years when they were in office? And the Justice Department has indicated that they're going to talk with Ms. Maxwell and release certain material in working with the FBI and with the attorney general and the deputy attorney general. So, like I said, I trust President Trump, I trust his team. We've had a great relationship with the Justice Department. I mean, it's been night and day dealing with Pam Bondi, Todd Blanch, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, than it was trying to
Starting point is 00:33:55 work with Merrick Garland and Chris Ray, for goodness sake, and certainly much different than it was trying to ever work with Jim Comey way back when. So again, I think we'll get answers when we have them in front of the committee, which is on this subject and a host of others. We've got FISA reauthorization coming up and we have this whole, where it all began, the real weaponization of government began, I believe, against President Trump back in 15, 16, 17, this time frame that Tulsi has now given us some information and provided some, you know, what was sort of the catalyst for all the events that then unfolded that we were digging into. I mean, the fact that they simply changed, manipulated, altered the intelligence community assessment, And it went right to the White House
Starting point is 00:34:46 as the reason for them making those changes. That's big, that's big stuff. And then what happened, the events that happened after that, we're gonna dig into all that. I really, since you've been like a dog with a bone on this subject, Mr. Chairman, I'd love to get into that. Because obviously I think that is certainly the largest scandal in the history
Starting point is 00:35:08 of the federal government. Since you brought up Jim Comey, he was part of that subpoena yesterday. I just wanna ask a wrap up on this. James Comey was part of this team at the FBI that gave Jeffrey Epstein this insane deal in Florida, where the feds pretty much just let them walk and skate. And it seems to be the problem,
Starting point is 00:35:27 something that happened almost two decades ago. And you had the same crew, this Robert Mueller crew, he was part of the subpoena, but Alberto Gonzalez. And during that time, you know, it seems like that's where the actual coverup began. And we've heard the Alex Acosta belonged to Intel. We've obviously seen some of the FBI documentation that they were working with Epstein.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Do you think that the CIA has more questions here? Do you think that this is an Intel thing and that's why it's shrouded in such mystery and conspiracy? The short answer is I don't know. I do know a number of people have raised that concern and raised that possibility. Again, I don't know that we know that, but when these guys come in, in front of the oversight committee, I'm sure those kind of questions will be asked and they'll try to get to the bottom of it. But I don't know that anyone knows that for sure, but I've definitely heard that possibility being put out there. We'll just have to wait and see what Chairman Comer uncovers. Good, we look forward.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And the questions that members of the Judiciary Committee may in fact have for the director of the FBI and for the attorney general when they come in front of our committee later this summer. We look forward to that. We'll take it live. Thank you for giving us that preview. We'll be sure to set our calendars.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I'm sure there'll be plenty of questions, obviously, about Russiagate. This seems to be the largest scandal in American history. And I've never seen the deep state tell on itself like this. I think Tulsi Gabbard has cemented herself as maybe the MVP right now of the Trump administration. That's what I'd call her. What is, since you have this encyclopedic knowledge,
Starting point is 00:37:06 Mr. Chairman, about this scandal and you've been on this program, previewing for us, what would happen if we actually had disclosures here? What has surprised you about this? Well, I think just the fact that it was the meeting December 9th in the White House, it looks like it was in the White House situation room where you got all the key players,
Starting point is 00:37:22 you got Clapper, Comer, or Clapper McCabe, Brennan, Susan Rice, Loretta Lynch, and the President of the United States all in this meeting. And that's where they talk about, no, we're not going to take what the professionals at the intelligence community have put together. We're going to change it. We're going to change it. And I think this is where the beginnings of going after President Trump, because remember what they did. They used the dossier that they knew was false. They used that as the basis to spy on the campaign. They spied on Papadopoulos. They spied on President Trump's campaign.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And then when he wins, they say, OK, we didn't stop in the election. Now we're going to undermine his presidency. And this all happens, I believe, in that December 9th meeting that Tulsi was talking about and the changes that she pointed out that took place in what the initial assessment was and what came after President Obama instructs the intelligence community to redo it. And then the events that then unfold, January 3rd, 2017, Chuck Schumer's on national television and he says, if you mess with the intelligence community,
Starting point is 00:38:27 President Trump, if you mess with the intelligence community, they have six ways of Sunday getting back at you. Three days later, Benny, Comey and Brennan and Clapper go to New York to give President Trump a briefing. President Trump believes it's the normal briefing that the incoming president gets, a defensive briefing. President Trump believes it's the normal incoming briefing that the incoming president gets, a defensive briefing. What he doesn't realize is it actually is set up. And they're going up there and they briefing and then they talk to him about the dossier. That information gets leaked and thereby gives credibility, leak it to CNN and others. They write, well, the director of the FBI just talked to the incoming president about the dossier. This must be real. This must be serious. There must be real collusion between Trump and Russia, da da da. That all gets taken off. And the FBI knows it's baloney. They know it's baloney. They set the president up. And you know that this was their mode of operation because three weeks later, they do the same thing to Michael Flynn. They go, remember Comey bragged about this. They
Starting point is 00:39:25 send FBI agents to the White House. Mike Flynn's been on the job four days, January 24, 2017. Mike Flynn, General Flynn thinks he's getting a briefing as well. I'm the incoming national security director. They're going to come talk to me. They're coming to set him up. We have emails from some FBI guys. One of the emails says, is our goal to try to get him to lie, to try to say, I mean, that's what they did. And this is where it all began. And then for the next 10 years, it was spy on the campaign, it was setting up, talk about the dossier, then it's Mueller, then it's impeachment, then it's the 51 doing their thing, then it's Jack Smith. I mean, it's just like for eight years
Starting point is 00:40:05 It was been non-stop, but it all started here and Tulsi has shown us the change from what it was Meeting with Obama new intelligence community assessment and you match that up with the events that then unfolded This looks like a conspiracy to me and God bless Pam for putting together the strike force at the Justice Department To dig into all of it. You explain very quickly what is a strike force. It's a focus group that's going to be looking at this issue bringing in key people. I don't know who those individuals, I don't know if they've been named, but key people at the Justice Department who are like we're focused on this and I think asking the fundamental question was in fact this a conspiracy to undermine the guy who was elected by we the people to be our commander and chief to be our president.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And it sure looks to me like it was. It's a remarkable timeline of events. We went through it yesterday. How after that December 9th meeting at the White House immediately in the Washington Post, CNN, and the Washington Post, CNN, and the Washington Post, CNN, and the New York Times, the decided upon narrative was instantly laundered out into those publications
Starting point is 00:41:13 before the Intel committee could even get a work group together to get that predetermined result. You can see the leaks instantly from the White House. And they cite, we read the articles yesterday, Mr. Chairman, they cite in a minute top senior administration officials in black and white. Here's the New York Times version of it. Russian hackers acted to help Trump.
Starting point is 00:41:35 This is the day of that meeting. This is how quickly they worked. And this is before the Intel committee could. This is before the Intel community could even get an assessment together. Yeah, could you read that? And they use Obama. It's like this is a smoking gun. They use the Obama photo there, Mr. Chairman. Yeah. Well, and then the same thing happened on January 6th, 2017. A few weeks later, up at Trump tower, it immediately gets leaked. Oh, they briefed the president elect on the dossier. I mean, think about this too. They know the dossier is false,
Starting point is 00:42:05 but they use it anyway to create this narrative. So that's the FBI using false information, causing the American people to believe something that's not true. Four years later, the FBI has the laptop. They know it's real, but they allow that story to be out there that the 51 Intel people say that the New York Post story is a Russian
Starting point is 00:42:25 information operation and this whole thing's a Russian. They know that's BS, but they cause that to be out there and the American people to see that. So both times they had the truth. They had the dossier, it's false. They had the laptop, they knew it was true. And they let the opposite narrative go out there to the American people. That's what our government did to us, all in an effort to undermine President Trump. That's how bad these people are. So what happens next, right? Like the American public,
Starting point is 00:42:57 we're just tired of there being a shining lure in front of us and no bait on it. And I think everyone's asking the same question, which is how do you charge this? Now, Tulsi Gabbard said quite definitively yesterday that she's referred for criminal charges to the DOJ. Obviously they've set up the strike force. What you just elucidated there for us, Mr. Chairman,
Starting point is 00:43:18 is that they use the Steele dossier as the main subsource for all of this, which was of course, Russian disinformation. They use Russian spies lying about Trump. That's a foreign power being used to sabotage our election. And so, I mean, is it treasonous? Is it seditious conspiracy? They charged a couple of J-6ers
Starting point is 00:43:38 with seditious conspiracy, Mr. Chairman. Could they charge them with that? Sure, they sure did charge some of the folks at the Capitol in January 6th with that. Again, I leave that to the Justice Department. I am so glad Tulsi did the referral. We've sort of had a lot of these events and these facts, but the idea that she now has the evidence that shows the intelligence community assessment was manipulated and changed, I think is critical.
Starting point is 00:44:05 We have John Brennan, I think, saying false things under oath in front of Congress, a few Congresses back, specifically when Trey Gowdy was at. You have a lot of choices for cell phone service with new ones popping up all the time. But here's the truth, there's only been one cell phone company that stands in the gap for every American that believes in freedom
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Starting point is 00:45:17 So I think you have that fact. You will have to look at the statute of limitations, what crime you're gonna charge, if in fact you're gonna charge it. I think all those factors weigh in, but we have smart lawyers, great leadership at the Justice Department. They will figure all that out and see if the elements of the crime are there. And then where do you bring that? Do you bring that in here in the DC area? Do you bring it somewhere? No. Please, no.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I get it, but all those have to be worked through. And that's why I believe the attorney general has appropriately put together this key group of people to focus in on this and get answers to all those questions. Because you're right, the American people say, look, this was totally wrong what they did. It happened right at the get go. It was done to undermine the entire presidency, the first term of President Trump.
Starting point is 00:46:05 That is wrong. That is just flat out wrong. And, oh, the guy who was kind of putting all this together, Jim Comey, just happens to be the guy who's walking along the beach and sees the shells or rocks, whatever, arranged in a pattern that says 86, 47. I mean, that's the guy. He's critical to all this too. So I think when you look at the big picture, like this was wrong and it needs to be investigated.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And if there's a crime, they definitely need to be prosecuted. Just very quickly here in closing, there's this clip of James Clapper that's going viral right now. And I believe that you've questioned James Clapper under oath. And he says that he's concerned
Starting point is 00:46:43 and that he's retained counsel and he's on CNN. And I don't wanna play it. I just want it as a play beside please. Cause we don't have the time. But he's saying he's worried. Do you think that James Clapper would flip? Why would James Clapper spend the rest of his life in prison or going through all of this, you know, for Barack Obama?
Starting point is 00:47:02 I don't know. I do know this. When we deposed Mr. Clapper and Mr. Brennan relative to the 51 former Intel officials who signed the letter, when they came in, it was, there was a level of arrogance that you very seldom see even in this town from those two individuals.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It was almost like how dared, you know, some hillbilly from Ohio bring in James Clapper and Mr. Brennan, the two smartest guys. I mean, they were in that, they were sort of in that category with Fauci, you know, they're so much smarter than you and I, the Iowa guy, the Ohio guy, you know. So there was a level of arrogance there
Starting point is 00:47:40 that I've just very seldom seen, but we'll see. What I do know is I do think Mr. Brennan said things that were not true. If you go back and watch when Chairman Gowdy was asking him questions about the dossier, we're reviewing, our staff is reviewing those interviews and depositions we've had with Mr. Clapper and others. Clear back with Comey, we had him under oath,
Starting point is 00:48:02 McCabe under oath back several Congresses ago. So we're going to look at all that as we, as we try to help with, with getting the facts to the American people. We know that you need to go, Mr. Chairman, but we appreciate your time. We have this video of a Brennan lying under oath. We'll play it right after you hop. But of course, beforehand, everybody go follow chairman Jim Jordan. He is crushing it here with almost 7 million followers. He's got to make you one of the most followed members of Congress. And while we're appreciative for your insight and for your salt and light, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, well, we appreciate what you do. Thanks. Godspeed. Godspeed. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the John Brennan lie right here that the chairman was name
Starting point is 00:48:54 dropping. I think why not play it? Let's go ahead and have a listen to John Brennan lying under oath. Shall we? Director Brennan, do you know who commissioned the Steele dossier? I don't. Do you know if the Bureau ever relied on the Steele dossier as part of any court filings, applications?
Starting point is 00:49:14 I have no awareness. Did the CIA rely on it? No. Why not? did the c a rely on it because we we did we it wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence uh... information that we had it was not in any way uses a basis for the intelligence community assessment that was done uh... it was it was not
Starting point is 00:49:40 but it was you filthy dirty it was, you filthy, dirty liar. It was, we can see it now. The evidence is all there. It's been declassified. It was part of the corpus of intelligence. It was actually the actual origin of the entire report. Just lying. I mean, also quite ironically,
Starting point is 00:50:08 you have Cash Patel back there. Anybody notice that? You have Cash Patel back there, like looking around, looking at him. I'm sorry, it's just funny. What is this? Is this In inception? Okay. I was like, you got cash to tell back there. Uh,
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Starting point is 00:52:48 Justice department announces the formation of strike force. Okay. Let's read, shall we? The justice department has formed a strike force to assess the evidence publicized by director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard relating to former president Barack Obama's top national security and intelligence officials alleged involvement in the origin of Trump, Russia collusion narrative. The department of justice Wednesday evening announced the formation of the strike force strike force. Can we make a strike? We make like a strike force stinger.
Starting point is 00:53:16 That'd be great. I can already hear the, I can already hear the music. Yeah. I got to say why not? You know, why not? Let's just gamify the entire political ecosystem. Let's do it. I'm sure Jerry can make one like by the time the show is wrapped. All right. Let's let's let's do it. Uh, investigate potential legal next steps that may stem from Gabbard's recent declassification of records, records suggesting that Obama administration officials manufactured intelligence to form the narrative
Starting point is 00:53:46 around then candidate Donald Trump, colluding with Russia to influence the election. Department of Justice officials told Fox News Digital, the DOJ takes the weaponization at the utmost seriousness. The source familiar said the strike force told Fox News Digital that everything is being reviewed and that no serious lead is off the table. The source told Fox News Digital that the National Security Division and the Justice
Starting point is 00:54:08 Department will likely be involved in the investigation. Very interesting little photo here because what you have is Cash Patel who was sitting behind Trey Gowdy there as John Brennan lied. Boy, it's almost like Cash Patel has witnessed all of this and it would be really nice to have the guy who wrote the Nunez memo about how fake Russiagate was be leading the charge here on the prosecutions. The Department of Justice is proud to work with my friend, Director Gabbard. We are grateful for her partnership
Starting point is 00:54:37 in delivering accountability to the American people. We see the investigation, the troubling disclosures fully leave no stone unturned to deliver justice. The strike force consists of teams made up of investigators and prosecutors that focus on the worst offenders engaged in fraudulent activities, including chiefly healthcare fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, bank fraud, money laundering offenses,
Starting point is 00:54:57 false statement offenses, and more. A lot of false statements here. So I suppose we'll see. They do seem really scared. It's been a fascinating thing to witness. Some of the things that have been revealed yesterday. It's frustrated me because this should obviously be the number one topic in the entire world.
Starting point is 00:55:17 And I want it to be, quite frankly. It's no lying in saying that this is a, this is the largest federal coverup scandal since or before Watergate, since ever, probably, will people go to jail. That's what everybody wants to know. Tulsi asked yesterday, yo, you gonna put Obama in jail for this?
Starting point is 00:55:43 And her answer sent some chills down the spines, many in Washington, here we go. Do you believe that any of this new information implicates former president Obama in criminal behavior? We have referred and will continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this.
Starting point is 00:56:03 For even former president Obama? Correct, the evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact. Ed, go ahead. Director Gatwick, thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:23 So just two questions, but to begin on that. The President yesterday, you've inferred that the former President helped lead a coup. Based on what you now see, do you believe President Obama is guilty of treason? Director Gabbard. I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice. I am not an attorney. But as I've said previously, when you look at the intent behind creating a fake, manufactured and unproductive charges to the Department of Justice. I am not an attorney, but as I have said previously, when you look at the intent behind creating a fake manufactured intelligence document
Starting point is 00:56:52 that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created by the intelligence community, the expressed intent and what followed afterward can only be described as a years long coup and a treasonous conspiracy against the American people, our Republic, and an attempt to undermine President Trump's administration. The Senate until it- Years long coup? Well, who does that sound like?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Mike Davis on our program two days ago that made huge news. Mike Davis saying, well, listen, it's an ongoing conspiracy. There are no statute of limitations. Charge it as an ongoing conspiracy. There are no statute of limitations. Charge it as an ongoing conspiracy. They still with their own words say, Hey, we didn't do anything wrong. Trump's a Russian asset. Then it's a, it's a, it's a continuation of the conspiracy. It hasn't ended yet.
Starting point is 00:57:37 So you still charge it. Obama continued that conspiracy after he left the white house. There's no presidential immunity. Here's that clapper clip I was talking to you about. They're all so nervous, freaking Obama out with a nonsense statement. It doesn't like, it is a illiterate statement. It's not even like, it's insulting to AI to say,
Starting point is 00:57:55 hey, I wrote it. Obama out with an illiterate statement. James Comey is making ISIS hostage videos. And here's Clapper from this morning being like, ah, yeah, we're terrified. Here we go. When the director says that she's referred these, these, these filings to the justice department for, for criminal investigation tonight, we're told they formed what is called a strike force.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Do you have concerns that they will attempt to prosecute you? Well, certainly I do. You know, after eight and a half years of this, and I don't know of an intelligence product that was more scrutinized, more investigated than that product was by numerous people, you know, it's very disconcerting. It really is. And I take seriously when the president of the United States accuses me of being a participant in a treasonous conspiracy, which is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah, what's your reaction to that? It's ridiculous. It just, it is untrue. So what will you do if they come after you? What is your plan? Well, I'll lawyer up, I suppose. I already have. You've already hired attorneys in case of an anticipation
Starting point is 00:59:11 that this Trump justice torment could try to prosecute you. We've had sort of perpetual attorneys since I left the government in 2017. These people look nervous, don't they? This is what I'm talking about. The cameraman that James Comey must have hired directly from ISIS. Look at him. He looks so scared.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I am. Yes, I am fine. We should continue to be good FBI agents. Yes. I like, I like my Cheerios in the morning. Look at them. I've been treated well. I have been treated well by ISIS and have converted to serve. Allah. Under my own willpower.
Starting point is 01:00:00 They're, they're such frauds and they're, they're caught, man. The evidence is demonstrable. It's a huge scandal. It's something that makes my blood boil and it's something that obviously has pissed off our next guest. Who's always ready to get the flamethrower out? Spicy tamale.
Starting point is 01:00:20 From deep in the heart of Texas, the great Chip Roy joins us live now. Congressman, welcome back to the program. What an interesting landscape we have set before us. It does seem like there's so many different scandals that are bursting forth. It'd be nice to know that the Republican Party has a rock solid plan heading forward, but you've been a little critical of Republican leadership in the House
Starting point is 01:00:50 and give you the floor here to talk about what's going on in the House of Representatives right now. Well, good to be on Benny. And yeah, we're heading into August, looking at the tangled webs that were clearly woven by the, not just in that Biden administration, go back to Obama, obviously, and the entire democratic complex that was clearly engaged in political action using the intelligence community for political purposes.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I mean, and people have to take a step back and realize how, how real, really significant this is. I found it interesting to watch all of the left-leaning legacy news operations leaning legacy news operations trying to kind of dance around this. They want to zero in on like, well, are they going to get this, are they going to prosecute, is it right for them to prosecute? They don't want to talk about the facts because the facts are very clearly damning. And everybody in America now sees this.
Starting point is 01:01:39 What we all knew that you had all this ridiculous Russia hoax, which the president rightly called it. But I think people need to understand how big of a scandal this really is. This is epic level scandal that frankly makes Watergate look pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things, given what we're talking about at the highest levels of government, the extent to which they were using the power of government for the purpose of impacting the, uh, who is actually in charge of government, right? They were using it for political purposes. They were trying to undermine the president, president Trump, to use to, um, you know, ultimately impeach him. That's what they were trying to do. And, uh, it's pretty extraordinary. And what, what Tul has put out. Tulsi is a good friend. I appreciate what she's been doing and put out information on Martin Luther King and what she's been putting out on this. There's been a lot of transparency in this administration, which everybody should remember while everybody's going through all of the motions with respect to Epstein, which I've called for additional transparency. We want to know who's involved. We should know.
Starting point is 01:02:41 called for additional transparency. We wanna know who's involved, we should know. And I'm gonna keep pushing on that and pushing the administration. I have an obligation in Congress to do that. But there's been a lot of transparency out of this administration about what we've been dealing with as a country with the abuse of power, the clear abuse of power,
Starting point is 01:02:57 where you have the Obama administration stepping over the intelligence community, an already corrupt intelligence community, even that corrupt intelligence community, even that corrupt intelligence community was saying that there wasn't anything there. And Obama said, no, shut up, I'm gonna make you do this and they're gonna go along. That's extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:03:16 On this subject, I'm sure you can understand. You're one of those guys that, you're one of those guys who gets're one of those guys who, uh, gets a, who, who has your finger on the pulse and I'm sure you can understand congressman that people are tired and that our base is tired of the paradigm of Democrats putting Republicans in prison for the rest of their lives, for non-crimes, and Republicans refusing to put Democrats in prison for monumental crimes that are public
Starting point is 01:03:55 and available for all of us to see. So will the Republican party not be cucked this time? Will people actually get punished for this treasonous or seditious act? Because sorry for the long question here, but I witnessed Trump supporters be charged with seditious conspiracy. Congressman, some Trump supporters that weren't even at January 6th, they weren't even there and they got, they got paces for seditious conspiracy, 22 years. It's pretty wild. Would you be in favor of seditious conspiracy charges here?
Starting point is 01:04:31 Well, let's take one step back and look at what we're talking about in the weaponization of the government. So be mindful that those of us who were using that phraseology last year as President Trump was running, heading into this administration, the weaponization of government against the people. Mind you, the legacy media and our democratic colleagues, the radical progressive left mocked us for using that terminology. Yet we're seeing in real time,
Starting point is 01:04:57 it was in fact weaponized against the people. Just last week, another thing we're not talking about is that we now have very credible evidence that the Biden administration very intentionally issued directives so that they go after parents. Remember Scott Smith? Remember all of that with the teachers and they were going after teachers and getting the Department of Justice to target parents? And that's one of those things that I think people are just sweeping aside. And then go look at what happened with respect to the pro-lifers who were targeted with the FACE Act. And then would you point out with January 6th, where people are going after...
Starting point is 01:05:32 I had like a grandmother in my district driving from Austin out into the Hill Country who gets stopped literally five years later. And then she ends up having to spend the night in jail. That's how crazy these people were in terms of weaponizing against the American people. And now what we see at the highest levels of government is a massive scandal where they were trying to target the incoming administration with lies designed to weaken, undermine him, undermine the administration to set up the 2020 election and to undermine his ability to govern. That is clearly the kind of behavior that should be looked at by the Department of Justice. I'm going to be careful as a former prosecutor.
Starting point is 01:06:13 I got to leave that to the Attorney General and the people over the Department of Justice who have all the files. I don't, who can then go make the case. My job in Congress is to elevate, expose, oversight, and to control the purse strings to try to constrain. Nightly scroll with Hailey Carania. Hello to all my homies in the chat. I'm Hailey Carania with some very inconvenient truth. Your go-to place for the hottest button issues.
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Starting point is 01:06:58 I love this place. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. Those are the tools that we have. The executive branch has to go execute and the Department of Justice under the president, they need to go execute. I think some heads need to roll. I'll let them figure out how to do that.
Starting point is 01:07:14 So glad that you use that turn of phrase, Congressman. Heads need to roll because I want to talk about a specific head that rolled or maybe didn't, I'm not sure. Jeffrey Epstein's head, you've actually asked for the autopsy report. You're one of the only guys who actually went and did that. And I think that'd be very interesting. Have you gotten a response?
Starting point is 01:07:30 Have you gotten Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy? And why, Congressman, are you asking for that? Yeah, look, I think we need to see the autopsy report. I think we need to see the specifics with respect to the alleged hanging. Obviously there's some discrepancies there. The three minutes that are apparently missing in the video. All of that, we need to get all of
Starting point is 01:07:51 the information involving all of that so we know the truth. I think we need the flight logs. I think we need to see those specifically manifest. Those are very typically public information. Then generally, I think we need information. Now, let me be cautious here. I was a part of moving a piece of legislation through the rules committee unanimously and it is passed and sitting there. We could call it up on the floor saying that we need all credible information over the next 30 days. Now we left town yesterday without
Starting point is 01:08:19 passing that as a body, but the rules committee passed it. And I think that's the right standard because we need to be careful. Grand juries have to protect victims. Grand juries have to make sure that if someone is being swept up that a reputation isn't destroyed because they happen to be on some plane, you know, nowhere near Epstein Island or nowhere near any of the ridiculousness.
Starting point is 01:08:41 But we need to understand from the Department of Justice what happened with Epstein, who was involved, who were the powerful people that were involved and are any of them being protected. And again, I'm giving deference to the executive branch to do this. I trust the president and I trust the administration to want to root out and get to the truth,
Starting point is 01:09:00 but we have a job in Congress to push. And I think the American people rightly are concerned we're not getting enough information. So that's why I'm standing up and calling for more information and we'll keep doing that. And if we don't get enough, then I'm assuring you, Congress is gonna have a voice in September saying we need more and we'll see what happens over August.
Starting point is 01:09:20 So we've met, seem like a sturdy guy. You're from Texas, former prosecutor. Have you ever seen anybody who's on suicide watch? Have somebody linens in his room and not be watched and hang himself from like a three foot bed, like and break his neck by doing it? It didn't seem like a particularly in shape guy. And I'm not sure that's even physically possible. What's your take on this? Just from a 35,000 foot perspective, is it,
Starting point is 01:09:50 is it physically possible? Is it, I mean, we can put the footage up here. It's very strange, but it's refreshing to hear you call for the autopsy report. Um, yeah, very odd and peculiar, uh, circumstances here. Well, why so many linens exactly in that jail cell, Congressman? Yeah, I mean, look, I am not going to speak to the specifics of what I think happened or didn't happen. I will just simply say again, in my time prosecuting and my time as the first assistant attorney general in Texas, you know, you tend to look at these things
Starting point is 01:10:23 from a 50,000 foot level and go, does this pass the smell test? Right. And when you have someone with his profile and you have someone with so many powerful people kind of circulating around him, and then you have him just turn up and die. And then you say, okay, did he in fact hang himself? I mean, look, I'll look at the evidence and look at it and see what I can see but it sure raises questions when you've got a missing gap in the footage and when you have that result now maybe he did but then did he have help and if he did have help then why and who this is the stuff that we deserve an answer and why we need to see more information. I again, I want to see the flight logs. If you need to redact somebody because it's
Starting point is 01:11:12 a victim, okay, I'm very sympathetic. These young women, right, that have gone through this and they had some civil litigation. Everybody listening to this, be very careful. They're going to hear me. They go, you're trying to cover up for the powerful. No, no. What I'm saying is we need a process by which between the grand jury and the DOJ, they're making sure victims aren't being exposed further or anything. We do that all the time, but we need to know the truth.
Starting point is 01:11:38 And that's what we're calling on the Department of Justice to be more forthcoming than they even have been. But they've been leaning into this more than the Biden administration. I want to be very clear where the hell were the Democrats over the last three or four years? And my friend Scott Perry yesterday in the oversight committee, he put forward a resolution to call on all of these previous attorneys general and the Clintons and say, let's subpoena those guys. What do you know? What did, and when did you know it? So I'm, God bless Scott for doing that.
Starting point is 01:12:05 This isn't just, they're politically trying to put this on the Trump administration when they were silent. So let's just see what all these democratic hacks who we just saw get exposed under the hoax garbage that Tulsi just put forward. Let's see what you have to say about Epstein. I love to hear it. That is the chip.
Starting point is 01:12:24 There's the chip Roy that this audience knows and loves. Here's just a really quick clip. I wouldn't, you know, I don't want to bog this interview down by playing you too much of a clip. It's only 10 seconds, Congressman, if you'll allow me to play this. It's somebody who's a dear friend of Bill Clinton and somebody who knew Epstein quite well.
Starting point is 01:12:41 And his name is Kevin Spacey and he's a very famous actor. And he said something remarkable on our friend Piers Morgan's show, here we go. I felt he put the president at risk on that trip to South Africa because there were these young girls, and we were like, who is this guy? So I will say this.
Starting point is 01:12:57 There were young girls on those flights. There were young girls on those flights, yeah. Will you be looking forward to asking Bill Clinton, I mean, you're on the Judiciary Committee, you'd be forward to asking Bill Clinton? I mean, you're on the Judiciary Committee. You'd be willing to ask Bill Clinton about the young girls on the flights that he was taking with Jeffrey Epstein? Well, again, and I will defer to Jim Jordan, who's just Judiciary Committee Chairman
Starting point is 01:13:16 and leadership to figure out how they wanna call and who they wanna call when, but I think all of these people need to answer. That's what I think. I think all of these people need to answer. That's what I think. I think all of these political power, you know, powerful figures, they need to answer for what, why were they on these flights? Why were they at Epstein Island? What were they doing? What did they know? And, you know, we'll see what happens. I don't know whether Gisela Maxwell, if she's, you know, she's been subpoenaed. I don't know what she'll be able to say while she's still
Starting point is 01:13:44 dealing with her trials. I mean, that's going to beenaed, I don't know what she'll be able to say while she's still dealing with her trials. I mean, that's going to be an interesting dynamic. But we ought to do everything we can to expose and get information so that we can know the truth. And like, ultimately, here's the deal, I use an example, like, as a prosecutor, if you're going after, say, a cartel, or mob mobsters, right? If you are, if you've got a list of 200 people associated with the cartel,
Starting point is 01:14:05 not everybody in America needs to see that list. There are reasons why you need to hold that so you can go do your job. But that's kind of only true, or it's made more acceptable, if you're delivering scalps, right? If you're coming forward and saying, look, I got the head of this cartel,
Starting point is 01:14:21 I got these 10 guys, they're in jail, we're going after them. Yes, we cut a deal with some of these lower level people so we could go after the kingpens. Great. I accept that. You accept that. If you go take down the head of the mob, you might cut a deal with the lower level guy. But what we're right now not seeing are heads rolling. Right now we have Epstein and we have Maxwell and that happened over a period of time. And by the way, it was the Trump administration. It was the Trump administration that under that that went after an indicted Epstein and started the process of charging Maxwell.
Starting point is 01:14:56 And then that finished up under Biden. My point being they've gone after those, but there's two. You mean there aren't more people? There aren't more people that need to be dealt with for what happened to these little girls or young women, depending on the ages. That strikes me as kind of unacceptable, which is why there's pressure to see more. But now go back to my point, this whole thing that we're dealing with, Tulsi, my good friend, she's awesome. She's putting all this information out there. And now everybody that looking at ODNI, they're looking at Clapper. They're looking at all this stuff and they're going, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:15:29 You mean Obama literally in 2016 in December just came in and said, nah, we're going to ignore all that. You guys are going to shut up. You're not going to say anything. And we're just going to basically make up a hoax and put it out there and totally try to upend American politics, empower Russians to our detriment. And I'm supposed to be wound around the axle that president Trump's seven months in is trying to move through, figure out the obscene stuff. Pam's trying to do it. And then now they want to focus on that when they were reasonably silent, but
Starting point is 01:16:02 then they were using the entire power and the infrastructure of government to undermine our elections, to undermine the belief in our entire republic because they're power hungry, radical, progressive Democrats who care about power more than kids, the same people who use immigrants as chattel, the same people who use these immigrants and kids for their political power base and didn't mind that they were being raped by cartels.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Those are the same people that wanna sit here and lecture me about this crap. I'm sick of it, but we should get to the truth wherever it may lead. And that includes Epstein and that includes the hoax and that includes all of this stuff. Sorry. Oh, listen, I just have to get you a send off question
Starting point is 01:16:42 here, Congressman, that I'm sure won't make your blood boil at all and won't increase your blood pressure. Given that you're from the state of Texas, I'm wondering what you think of Congresswoman Salazar's amnesty bill, because that's definitely what the Republican base is asking for right now. Any comments?
Starting point is 01:17:01 So let me be very clear. We should do nothing right now, other than support the president's efforts to secure the border, which he has largely done. It's still a daily battle. I talked to people on the border, but they're holding the line. We should support the president's efforts to remove people who are dumped into our country illegally by the Biden administration, abusing parole and asylum to do it and got aways, endangering the American people, people like Jocelyn Nungre, who just last month, it was a year ago that we lost her and other thousands of Americans. We should focus on that. We should not be focusing on status at all.
Starting point is 01:17:36 I totally disagree with my Republican colleagues, including my colleague from Florida, Maria Salazar, that we should be going down that road at all. Let's be very clear. That bill does contemplate citizenship for certain individuals under DACA and DAPA. It contemplates status for another 10 million people and a path to citizenship in the end. It is in fact, an amnesty, the same kind of amnesty that 1986 President
Starting point is 01:18:01 Reagan ultimately regretted because it created a wave of people that were coming here illegally. We should not be doing that at all. It does not embrace the reforms that we put in HR2 in the last Congress that we're going to pass this Congress that are actual clear reforms to fix amnesty, fix parole, fix catch and release, all of the things that we know to do.
Starting point is 01:18:22 By the way, first time we've ever done that as Republicans, a true security first and security only bill. We should do that again. We should jam it down the throats of Democrats. We should dare them to stop it. We should not succumb to the powers of the big, you know, chamber of commerce, people coming in begging for cheap labor. We should help Americans work. We should get them back to work instead of on welfare. And we should stop this open borders nonsense. The president is right. Tom Homan is right. Stephen Miller is right. And the Congress needs to not mess it up like they always do.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Yeah. Oh man, the one, the clip we always play is Paul Ryan going down to the border and riding a horse and saying he's gonna build Trump's wall and he doesn't even bring it up for funding. Correct. What a fraud. What a bunch of frauds.
Starting point is 01:19:09 What a bunch of weaklings. Chip Roy, you're not one of them. And that's why we are big fans of Chip Roy around here. And the Congressman always spitting fire. Telling it like it is, making Texas proud. It's Chip Roy, ladies and gentlemen, he's got 500,000 followers on X. He should be one of them. Thank you, Congressman.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Thanks, Benny. God bless. Gentlemen, if you want to look spicy hot, like Chip Roy's last segment, that's fire. I think that'll go viral. We should not be doing amnesty. It is an amnesty. Him calling out his Republican colleagues. Good, I wanna see more of that on the program.
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Starting point is 01:21:22 These products are not intended to diagnose, diagnose, treat or cure any hermaphrodite disease. Okay, all right. Ladies and gentlemen, just designed to make you feel rocking and ready to go, as we welcome a brand new guest to the show out of the great state of North Carolina. Some news out of North Carolina this morning.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Can't wait to talk with representative Mark Harris about it, let's rock and roll. Congressman, welcome to the program. So glad you can join us. Hey, Vinnie, it's so great to be here. Thank you for having me. Okay, let's talk. Michael Watley, he was on the show yesterday.
Starting point is 01:22:01 He kept all the news from us. I was even asking him about North Carolina. Didn't know he was gonna run for Senate. That's interesting the news from us. I was even asking about North Carolina. No, didn't know he was going to run for Senate. That's interesting. What do you think about that, Congress? Well, it is interesting. And you know, a lot of news just broke here in the last 12 to 24 hours, I guess, here in North Carolina in the Senate race that's in front of us.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Seems that it's very clear now that Roy Cooper, our former governor, is going to be making his announcement by Monday that he's going to seek the Democratic nomination. And now, Lauren Trump has made the decision. She's not. Everybody was kind of waiting to see what she wanted to do or was going to do. And she has decided she's going to remain on her program. And I guess Michael Watley received the president's tap and he is now going to jump in. So we're going to have an incredible race that's going to cost
Starting point is 01:22:50 millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars here in North Carolina. And we've got to make sure that we hold this seat though. That's absolutely incredibly important for this next Congress. Is North Carolina a Republican state? You know, North Carolina overall, I believe, is a Republican state. I mean, you look at the fact that all across the state, it's pretty much a picture of where you've got the urban and rural divide.
Starting point is 01:23:19 You've got several pockets in the state that are deep blue. But when you really look at the state as a whole, it's overall red. And I think that we have a great opportunity to hold this seat. We just got to be consistently conservative. I think that's the bottom line that sells in North Carolina is when you're consistently conservative and you're standing for truth and you're standing for righteousness, you're going to win elections and people can see that. And I think this is going to be an important time for us. You know, our, our last guest and, uh, your fellow judiciary chairman member,
Starting point is 01:23:51 uh, along with Jim Jordan, who was also on the program have all been sort of popping off on this Republican amnesty bill that Salazar has brought up this past week. And, um, I just, it's a lot going on here, Congressman. I just can't think of something worse to try and feed the Republican base right now than an amnesty bill for tens of millions of criminal aliens. But, you know, I'm not the member of Congress. So your, your take on this? Well, I can't really see it going anywhere. When I look at where we are
Starting point is 01:24:22 as a Congress right now, I mean, bottom line, and I think Chip Roy said it well in the previous segment, and Jim Jordan, of course, is chairman of our judiciary. We're focused right now on getting this border situation as we should be solidified and making sure that we finish the border wall. We put 10,000 additional ICE agents now. And through the one big, beautiful bill that passed. We're getting custom border patrol in place. We've got 10,000 up to 100,000 beds, I should say, in place for deportations.
Starting point is 01:24:55 We've got to keep that focus going. And that's where we are. That's where this president is. I know people are hearing various things about labor issues and agriculture and some of those kind of things, but the reality is we've got programs in place. We can use those programs like H2A and others. We can build off those programs. We certainly don't need to be getting into something like an amnesty bill that's going to open the door. We've got to take care of business. We ran on the issue of securing the border, taking care of business, getting the illegal criminals out of our country. And we've got to
Starting point is 01:25:30 keep getting that job done before we do anything else. Yeah, I don't like the distractions. And we've been seeing so many distractions pop up here. And it's been remarkable, actually, to see the way that this Obama, this Obamagate scandal has been covered. It's clearly something that the news media led with for two straight years. The Russia collusion hoax, it was the top of everyone's news cycle. It was the tip of the tongue forever reporter and now nobody wants to talk about it. Congressman, it's very strange now that there's direct evidence
Starting point is 01:26:05 that it was all fraudulent and potentially treasonous and potentially a seditious conspiracy. You've posted about this and you said that, yeah, we should totally lock up Barack Obama. What's your take on this? Like, how do you think this is gonna progress forward, Congressman? Listen, I've been telling folks
Starting point is 01:26:23 from the beginning of this story, follow the evidence. How many times do we hear it? Nobody's above the law. We've got to follow the evidence. And Tulsi Gabbard has done all of us a great favor by releasing and putting out this information, getting it over to the Justice Department. You know, we keep hearing more and more, and I anticipate we're going to hear even more as we go into the fall about these things that happened, the specific dates where the intelligence community had really come to the conclusion there really wasn't anything that had gone on with Russia and their meeting where they'd come to that conclusion. And then there was that fateful December 9th meeting in the White House with the president
Starting point is 01:27:04 and all of his people that pretty much changed the course and decided, no, we're going to make something of this. And then you go into January when the meeting happens with Clapper and Brennan and Comey sitting down with President Trump and they began to talk about the entire dossier that they knew was false. I mean, the fact that there is evidence, I'm understanding that these documents that have been sent over to the Justice Department
Starting point is 01:27:31 point to the facts of the things we're talking about here. And if indeed the evidence leads all the way to Obama, then by all means, we need to go to follow that evidence. And it needs to be exposed. and I think we're in a great position to do it and I think it's time American people are waiting to hear. There's something that I've been waiting actually for somebody to come on this program with your background and I'm really absolutely glad that you were booked today because it's a question that I've been meaning to ask somebody who comes from a theological background.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Sure. And you went to South Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary and you were a lead pastor at Trinity Baptist Church. Sounds like a wonderful church, but you've spent a considerable time of your life in the study of divinity. And I'd like to ask you a spiritual question, if I may, on this next topic.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Something I can't get out of my head. There's this clip of Kevin Spacey, and I know that Bill Clinton has just been subpoenaed and Hillary Clinton has just been subpoenaed. And there's a clip of Kevin Spacey and he's talking about flying on an obscene plane. And he's talking about how these little girls came out and how it was really putting in jeopardy, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:52 Bill Clinton, but we know Bill Clinton was a frequent, if there was a frequent flyer program on the Lolita Express, boy, he'd be at the top tier. And I can't figure, I can't square this circle. Maybe you can help me. What is it inside of a person's soul that would allow them to engage in this kind of activity with young children? Because they're just admitting it here, right?
Starting point is 01:29:15 And we've all seen the art of the pedestals. We've all seen sort of the sickness of this world and to a normal American, to do regular, just sort of God believing Bible reading American, it's so despicable and it's so dark and disgusting. We wouldn't be able to like tolerate it. Our souls wouldn't let us, but there's something inside of our elites that say, no, we should, I mean, this is something that I should engage in and that this is okay. It's permissible.
Starting point is 01:29:45 I shouldn't even report it. What is that exactly, sir? Well, the sad part is that it is a reality of humanity that we all have a sinful nature. The Bible is clear that we are born for all of sin and come short of the glory of God. We all know that we have a sinful nature. There is a unique sickness, no doubt, that is impeding someone who enters into this kind of dark and this kind of evil without question. Of course, you and I, we recognize that. I think the average individual that reads of people that would take advantage of these young girls is indeed a sickness. But again we go back to the fact that all of us have
Starting point is 01:30:30 that sickness. The power of the cross, the gospel of Jesus Christ from my perspective is the only thing that can change that heart and change that mind because it's darkness. But I do think that there is a certain desperation and a certain deepness to the evil that does the kind of things that people do. And it's a sickness. I mean, we watched it all play out even during the sentencing out there in Idaho of this evil individual that could just sit there
Starting point is 01:30:59 and yet took the lives of these innocent people. And there's a lot of darkness around us, and we've got to be very aware of the darkness and the evil that pervades. But we all have to be very attuned to the fact that before the grace of God go I. And because again, all carry with us the sin nature, it's just, it's very, very damaging
Starting point is 01:31:23 when you see individuals that move beyond that into a realm of darkness and a realm of evil that is so destructive. Yeah, like spirit cooking dinners and paintings of little abused children hanging on your wall. I mean, we've seen it all. It's satanic. Are there satanists who live in Washington, D.C.? Are there satanists who run our country? Well, I am not familiar with any particular individuals that I've come in contact with. But yes, I mean, there are individuals who worship Satan all over the country, all over the world. There are individuals that have moved into that realm of darkness and evil down to that point.
Starting point is 01:32:08 So yes, I mean, those folks do exist, no question. Yeah, it does feel like when you're talking an issue like Epstein, you're talking about, you know, taking all the evidence on surface level isn't doing it justice. You have to actually get down into the spiritual level to quite possibly understand, like who could possibly, who could even allow for the abuse of these children?
Starting point is 01:32:31 Like who would, what kind of a person lets that happen in their presence, right? Like, you know, what would you do if you got on a plane and there were little kids that were on the plane? I mean, you know, it'd be so repulsive. You wouldn't like allow, you don't fly to Africa. That's for sure, right? Have a great time, not talk about it.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Exactly right. And I mean, you've got to have the sensitivity to understand the surroundings where you are at any time. And that, from a theological perspective, that's the power of the Holy Spirit that helps you to know. And as believers, the Holy Spirit bears witness of one believer to another. And we recognize that as well.
Starting point is 01:33:10 So, you know, you have a heightened sensitivity to the evil that is around you when you're in the midst of it. Yeah, I'll tell you what, Congressman, whenever you go to the Hollywood Hills, we unfortunately have to go to LA here and there. I always get this, like, it's like a sunken place, man. And whenever you go to the Hollywood Hills, we unfortunately have to go to LA here and there. I always get this, like it's like a sunken place, man. You always get, you just get, it just feels that San Francisco, like downtown DC. You can just, you can feel the darkness.
Starting point is 01:33:35 You can feel it, man. There's like, these places have a spiritual energy. No question, no question. But I will say this. I mean, I've been there, as you said in my introduction, I'm brand new. I've been in Washington now there, as you said in my introduction, I'm brand new. I've been in Washington now about six months, was sworn in on January 3rd.
Starting point is 01:33:49 There are some incredible believers and followers of Christ that are part of that, that understand, that do have that spiritual awareness of where they are and what they're doing. And I'm very grateful for them. And again, you quickly learn them and you draw close to them. And just like some of the folks that I've seen here on your show already today
Starting point is 01:34:11 are people that I love and respect and continue to learn from and look forward to in the future. Very quickly here to end, if you approach this from a theological perspective, what should happen with Epstein and with this case? What should happen here? What do you believe?
Starting point is 01:34:29 Yeah, I think that we've got to continue to get to the truth. We've got to continue to get to the information and the evidence. The fact that, listen, I've said all along, this Maxwell, at the end of the day, she has all the information. I mean, she was the right hand individual,
Starting point is 01:34:46 getting her to come out and share. I mean, if the American people really want to know she's going to be the one that can identify individuals that were taking advantage of these people. And so hearing from her, I think is gonna be an important step. The fact that Todd Blanche is going to meet with her I think is a great indication that just
Starting point is 01:35:07 this Justice Department is wanting to get to the bottom of this in many ways. And so I think that's gonna be important. You know, at the end of the day, I get asked about that from immigration every now and then. You know, how do you deal with this issue of caring for taking care of strangers and those kinds of things.
Starting point is 01:35:25 And I understand the question, but listen, the Bible is clear that we are to be a nation of law and order. We're a nation of laws and people have got to follow the law. And that includes coming into this country. We're all for legal immigration. We're all opposed and determined to stop illegal immigration. And folks have got to be held accountable to that very tune. So as a believer, what should happen on that issue? We've got to maintain our laws and maintain order. And I think that that's exactly what this administration is wanting to do. And that's why I'm wanting to help move the needle in Congress to make sure
Starting point is 01:36:05 that we continue on that path. Well we're thankful for that and uh Congressman we hope you god speed in your journey. I know you're just getting started here so uh welcome my guest to the Thunderdome and uh we look forward to uh following up on how that journey goes. We'll see Congressman Mark Harris here. You can follow him right on X. Here's his account. And ladies and gentlemen, make sure we're fighting with people who are fighting for us.
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Starting point is 01:37:46 That's PatriotMobile.com slash Benny. Or call 972 Patriot. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we do have some breaking news here that, well, sucks a lot for me. And I can't believe that we have to do this live on the air, but this one's gonna hurt. gonna hurt okay here we go breaking news hulk hogan has gone to see the lord at the age of 71 hulk hogan is a local here in the Tampa area.
Starting point is 01:38:26 We've been with Hulk Hogan a couple times at a couple of different events. And this is terrible. He was a patriot, somebody who loved his country, loved his nation so very much, and contributed richly to the American experience and is going to be missed he spent what would be the sunset of his time on earth speaking at the RNC convention in a manner that was was so memorable and honorable and exciting.
Starting point is 01:39:06 We were there for this. It's a incredible moment. Let's have a listen. My hero and they tried to kill the next president of the United States. Enough was enough. And I said let Trump-A-Media be. the next president of the United States. Enough was enough! And I said, let Trump-a-mania run wild, brother! Let Trump-a-mania rule again!
Starting point is 01:39:34 Let Trump-a-mania make America great again! U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A. Ladies and gentlemen, this is breaking news at this very second. All of this is happening live right now. This is the first article on it and it was published a second ago. Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan dead at 71 years old, medics were dispatched to the 71 year old's house in Clearwater. Early Thursday morning,
Starting point is 01:40:31 operators saying it was a cardiac arrest. A slew of police cars and EMTs were parked outside of Hogan's home. The icon was carried on a stretcher into an ambulance. Just a few weeks ago, Hogan's wife Skye denied rumors that he was in a coma, stating that his heart was strong and he had recovered from some recent surgeries. We broke the story last month that there were rumblings that Hogan was on his deathbed. We were told at the time that he was simply dealing with symptoms
Starting point is 01:41:01 of a neck procedure that he underwent in May. Hulk transformed professional wrestling into a family entertainment sport before Hulk. Wrestling catered to a fairly narrow audience. Hulk's theatrics in the ring and magnetic energy for children and their parents supercharged the sport, the story developing. We hope that TMZ has it wrong, but this is the news right now that is breaking. And we got, we were honored to have gotten a chance to meet Hulk Hogan actually at a UFC event here in Tampa. He was obviously a close friend of president Trump. He's someone who clearly, because of what he did professionally
Starting point is 01:41:49 had some health troubles, right? I mean, this is like bruising on the body. Hulk Hogan was a, is a very, very tall man. He stands at six foot seven or six foot eight. He's just one of the all time American legends in our nation history. This was him at the Madison Square Garden speech for President Trump, arm wrestling Donald Trump,
Starting point is 01:42:18 getting beat. What a horrible loss for American culture. And the fabric of our nation, this was us witnessing Hulk Hogan walk in at the UFC event in Tampa holding the American flag. Coby Covington was the fighter. Coby Covington rips his shirt off. A shout out to the true legend, Paul Kogan.
Starting point is 01:42:50 We got to meet Hulk. I don't mean to do this live on the stream, but why not? This is where an open book. We got to meet Hulk and I didn't get a selfie. Cause I, cause you know, I guess like sometimes you just say maybe it's inappropriate or whatever. And so you just, you know, maybe you just, you know, you get sometimes these guys, they just, they take too many photos, right?
Starting point is 01:43:16 So you just want to be polite. I suppose now I regret it all. But you can't have it back. So there it is. Total and complete legend, obviously, but you can see here even on stage that Hulk was, and you can see it obviously when you met him in person, that he had difficulty walking, and he had obviously punished his body
Starting point is 01:43:37 in physical entertainment for this country for decades as a total and complete legend for it. And he went off to be with the Lord in what TMZ is reporting is a cardiac arrest, which of course if you have that kind of trauma to your body and your heart, and if you are of a, yeah, if you have sort of this, as you can see here in the videos of him walking out
Starting point is 01:44:10 in Madison Square Garden, if you're this size of a dude, right, you gotta make sure that your ticker is, it's like a lot of work on your ticker, right, to keep everything going. Hulk Hogan, we had been in talks with doing an event. We wanted to do an event with Hulk Hogan. I don't mean to make this about us. I just, we know Sky, his wife,
Starting point is 01:44:36 and we know his business partners, and we were trying to do an event with Hulk Hogan here in town. We wanted to do a big event with him, and they had told us that he was under the weather and was going through some rehab. And so we just prayed and wished all the best. But unfortunately, well, God claims his own, right?
Starting point is 01:44:58 Rest in peace, original American badass. A real American. Isn't that the song? Yeah, I am a real American. Do we have that? Are we allowed to play it? Maybe that can be our send off. Oh yeah, unfortunate.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Okay. We can't play the song. It's just copywritten, right? And get the whole show taken down. You know, you gotta make that choice. But Hulk Hogan is a true, a true patriot. Somebody who we will miss terribly. Wow, what a way to go out with a bang.
Starting point is 01:45:43 What a way to go out with a bang. What a way to go out with a bang. It was incredible to witness both the RNC at UFC and at Madison Square Garden, we were able to see him, meet him. It was an extreme honor. Ladies and gentlemen, now is the moment for our verse of the day. Let's go ahead and check in, shall we?
Starting point is 01:46:07 Sorry to have to process all of this with you. You know, sorry to have to process all of this in front of you, I, you hate it. You just hate it. Tears at you. This is, you know, God is the author of life and death, isn't he? Right?
Starting point is 01:46:22 So you can't argue with God on those things. There are certain things that God, powers that God certainly retains for himself and life and death are those powers. That's why they're so joyous. So new life is such a joyous thing. And it's why death is so sad. We can't control it at all.
Starting point is 01:46:40 So you just give it over to God. From 1st Timothy 6, 12, our verse of the day, fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life to which you are also called. And the Lord called his servant Hulk Hogan up to heaven today. And so Godspeed, the real American Hulk Hogan. Show in honor of him. Ladies and gentlemen, keep fighting. Right?
Starting point is 01:47:10 Remember, in the end, we win. It's your boy, Benny. See ya. Beep beep bye bye bo bo bum Look at Molly now, here she comes Devil with a two-bed, three-bed soul She's a devil with a three-bed soul Love, hip-hop, she's like not too good, not too bad She's a real tough thing and I like her my fat Change, change the law of making blame, change of how I'm waking. No excuses, no denying. This heart is guilty.
Starting point is 01:47:48 It ain't no just crying. I ain't no saint, ain't no saint, no savior. My deeds are poisoned. And my soul's in danger. Send me down, send me down. Oh, send me low, send me low. Send me low, where the low! Where the flames! Where the flames of justice blow!
Starting point is 01:48:08 I deserve the piss! No! Send me down! Send me low! Send me low! Send me low! Where the flames! Where the flames of justice blow!
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