The Benny Show - Why The Epstein Question Will Never Die | Answering it is Critical to the Future of America... with Guest Mark Eigarlash

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Trump base calls for more transparency on Epstein, DOJ Charges 2 People for Helping Ryan Routh’s Trump Assassination Plot and Prosecutor Mark Eiglarsh joins the show. Check Out Our Partners: ...Advantage Gold: Get your FREE wealth protection kit https://www.abjv1trk.com/F6XL22/4MQCFX/?sub1=Youtube Patriot Mobile: Go to https://www.PatriotMobile.com/Benny and get A FREE MONTH Blackout Coffee: http://www.blackoutcoffee.com/benny and use coupon code BENNY for 20% OFF your first order Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 We have to thank President Trump for this, in a good way. I mean, I mean that actually. We're gonna talk about how this entire machine, the entire moment of what's happening right now is so confounding, just boggles the mind today. DOJ charges two people for helping out Trump's assassin in the state of Florida.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Very important here. I wanna get to the bottom of that. Why was the assassin looking to Ukraine for help? They want more weapons from Ukraine? The assassin that tried to kill Trump at his golf course was working with Ukraine to get weapons to kill Trump. And then we just gave more weapons to Ukraine yesterday. Ah, oh, mama mia.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Prosecutor Mark English will be on the show today, along with other special guests. It's gonna be a big one today. Let's talk about this, some chit chat today. My name is Benny Johnson and this is The Benny Show. First off, make sure that you protect yourself, right? If you're, if you're Jeffrey Epstein and you hear the sound of one inch heels, clip clapping down your hallway in a pantsuit swishing late in the evening and a noose tightening
Starting point is 00:01:39 and Hillary Clinton's maniacal cackle. I ain't be no ways tired. We come too far. That's what Hillary was saying. You know it. Gallows humor, quite literally. Well, you wanna make sure that you're protected, okay? Jeffrey Epstein, not protected. Or maybe Jeffrey Epstein was too protected.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Do you know what I mean? Again, we're gonna talk about it. The protection I'm trying to talk about here, ladies and gentlemen, is protecting your financial assets. Now, of course, you are not a criminal and you're not somebody who has access to the demonic globalist cult resources like some
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Starting point is 00:03:03 Man, it's very, I wasn't planning on starting with this, but just because, just because of us talking about the markets here today, I gotta go, Klein, go to my timeline, check my latest retweets. Bradley Martin is who I'm looking for. Yeah, Bradley Martin. Putting up something very interesting here about Epstein.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Keep going, keep going. There it is. Okay. This sort of gets to the heart of it all, right? This gets to the heart of it all. That's why it's not going away. I have so much to say on this. And this is off topic, but since we're talking, since we're starting talking about finances, why not go to this dude who's just like a fitness influencer, right? It's all he does. It's all he does is it goes to the gym. Okay. It's not, not political at all. In fact, I saw him at UFC like a year ago.
Starting point is 00:03:51 He was at UFC taking photos with Trump. Like he seems like a totally like relatively apolitical dude. He's just a fitness influencer. This is how this is the level of permeation that Epstein has in our society. Okay. I'm going out of order here, but I just want like, let's just lock in, okay? Because I'm talking about paying taxes
Starting point is 00:04:09 and we're talking about your finances. Why don't we talk about Epstein's finances? The one of the craziest things about Epstein is that this guy was a billionaire and nobody knows how he got his money. The vast majority of billionaires that you can see on paper or on the Forbes list, you freaking know how they get their money. It's really obvious.
Starting point is 00:04:27 They have to disclose it. Actually. They, you know, they have to lay it out there. The vast majority of them. Not some people have shady stuff on the side, but like most people, it's not like I'm a billionaire and you know, nothing about me. Okay. There's not that many billionaires in the world. And when Jeffrey Epstein was operating, there definitely were a lot less billionaires like 10, 20 years ago. So how did Jeffrey Epstein become a billionaire?
Starting point is 00:04:49 He's probably the only billionaire that you know nothing about. You've never even like, you never heard anything about how he actually made money. What exactly was he offering? What was his service? Elon Musk, let's just take this as like, just a broad example here.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Elon Musk is a billionaire and it's really obvious why. Millions of people use his products. He makes them, he creates them, he patents them, and he sells them. And then he makes a lot of money off that stock, off the stock of his companies and the future projections of the companies. It's like clear as day how Elon Musk makes his money. Okay. As a matter of fact, it's clear as day how Donald Trump made his money. It's very public.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Nobody knows how the hell Jeffrey Epstein made his money. Here's a fitness influencer, a dude that does not do politics all day saying this, how this billionaire get his money. Jeffrey Epstein, the government can tell you exactly how much taxes you owe every single year. And if you pay too little, they will put you in prison. Try it. Oh, actually don't try it, please. You'll go to jail and I don't want you to go to jail. But they can't just deep dive into this guy's bank accounts
Starting point is 00:05:57 and tell us where his money came from. It's a blatant cover-up for this entire thing is just shame, shame, shame. The saddest part is that a bunch of children got abused and we're just supposed to dismiss it. Nah, bro. Nah, bro. President Trump yesterday broke the internet in half by saying, and I think what he was trying to do was defend Pam Bondi, I think potentially, right?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Well, President Trump said yesterday was stop asking questions about Jeffrey Epstein. Here's the moment, ladies and gentlemen, and we're gonna talk about why this is impossible. And a lot of it has to do with President Trump. I mean that in a good way. President Trump's history with Epstein is something that he should be proud of.
Starting point is 00:06:55 We're gonna talk about it today on the show and we're gonna like ask some really tough questions. Okay, here we go. Here's Trump yesterday. Saying Jeffrey Epstein, it left some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a American or foreign intelligence agency.
Starting point is 00:07:11 The former labor secretary who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Costa, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the native stone? The Press. Yeah, sure. If I could —
Starting point is 00:07:29 The President. Can I just interrupt for one second? Sure. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy has been talked about for years. You're asking — we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy,
Starting point is 00:07:43 this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time on it? Do you feel like answering? The Press. I don't mind answering, but — I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this, where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead. Ms. Farris-Harris-Harris, Chief Executive Officer, National Security Council, and the National Security Council. The Press Secretary said that the U.S. has been working closely with the U.S. and the U.S.
Starting point is 00:08:16 to find a solution to the problem. What is the U.S. response to the U.S. response to the U.S. response to the U.S. response to the U.S. response to the U.S. response to the U.S. response to the U.S. response to the U.S file along with the JFK, MLK files as well.
Starting point is 00:08:29 That's what I meant by that. Also to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is what they were. Never going to be released, never going to see the light of day. To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We can get back to you on that. And the minute missing from the video, we release the video showing definitively, the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide. And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter. And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video.
Starting point is 00:09:15 It was old, from like 1999. So every night the video is reset and every night should have the same minute missing. So we're looking for that video to release that as well showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's it on Epstein. Is that it on Epstein? Who decides that exactly? Well, the evidence certainly doesn't point to this being it on Epstein.
Starting point is 00:09:47 The evidence points to this being a massive coverup. A coverup that for the life of me, I cannot figure out why the Trump administration is walking into this bear trap. And I do believe that it's a trap. We're gonna get to that in just a second. I believe that this is a setup. I believe that this is the new Russian gate.
Starting point is 00:10:05 This is the new embarrassing mechanism created to trap good people inside of the Trump administration. And the vast majority of them are excellent people. We know them personally. Was I've seen an Intel asset? Let's just start there at the very logical and good question and then the nonsensical response from Pam Bondi. Here is a FBI document. Our team has looked into this. This is a real document. It says that Epstein provided information
Starting point is 00:10:43 to the FBI as agreed upon. This case is advised no federal prosecution will occur in this matter as Epstein continues to uphold his agreement with the state of Florida and federal investigators. There it is. For the prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein for child prostitution. This is the FBI.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Back in 2008, you can see here dated September 18 2008, protecting their source and their asset. This is not the only time that he was protected, but it was one of many that Jeffrey Epstein had the long arm of the intelligence agencies reach in to say, no, no, no, don't touch him. As is famously crystallized by Alex Acosta. When he was asked, why did you let Jeffrey Epstein off in this case so leniently? And Alex Acosta says, he belonged to Intel. I was told he belongs to Intel.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Don't touch him is the exact quote. This is all of public record. And I want to pause here for a second to tell you this. President Trump's the only president in my lifetime that took a bullet for me and for you. I believe that President Trump, I realize that there are many choices when it comes to cell phone services across the nation. There are new ones popping up all the time. Here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes in freedom
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Starting point is 00:13:01 I believe that President Trump was spared by God to save this country by millimeters. And I believe that President Trump dodging that bullet is one of the the most widely seen miracle in human history. And as a simple Christian, I'm just going to accept it prima facie. Okay, as that. And I support the president and his administration. And this is why we're friends actually with so many in the administration is to give tough love this is what friends are for. When your friends get it wrong, you have to say no, you should rethink that. You don't want to get divorced.
Starting point is 00:13:42 You're doing this wrong. This is what like friends for, in fact. So I want to take a real quick step back in President Trump's history here with Jeffrey Epstein. Talk about it. Yes, there are photos of Jeffrey Epstein in the late 1990s with President Trump. There are photos of Jeffrey Epstein
Starting point is 00:14:01 with literally everyone in the late 1990s. His job is an Intel asset right here. Here's the Acosta article. His job, working for intelligence agencies, perhaps foreign. We've covered that on the show. We asked Dershowitz straight up, hey, was he like a Mossad agent?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Dershowitz was like, maybe. I brought him to Israel one time and he met with Mossad. Such a shocking moment on this program. Donald Trump has nothing, as far as I can see, to hide. President Trump, unlike every other billionaire and friend of Jeffrey Epstein, totally and completely admonished the guy, in fact, worked to get him locked up. This document right here,
Starting point is 00:14:45 the feds letting Jeffrey Epstein off, this document only exists because of Trump. Here's the reason why, because President Trump worked with the prosecution to put Epstein in jail in 2018, he banned him from his club. Donald Trump deep sixed the guy and then went to the feds. The rumor on the street is that the cops knew about Epstein
Starting point is 00:15:04 because Trump tipped him off. Of all of Trump's human failings, like being part of these like grotesque, like degenerate, sick, pedo cult society, this isn't it. Trump was not down with that. You can see his actions absolutely betray and tell you precisely where Trump's head was. The prosecutor says this prosecution couldn't happen without president Trump, who helped me and gave me really important information. Why do we even talk about Jeffrey Epstein? Well, it's because of Trump. In fact, Donald Trump, when he was running for president in 2015, earliest possible days running for president, went on stage at CPAC and shocked the world when he brought up a
Starting point is 00:15:58 little known name and a very mysterious island. For many, it was the first time that we had heard anything about Jeffrey Epstein or little St. James or Bill Clinton, for that matter. Here's President Trump beginning his presidential and political life by using correctly the Epstein vector to attack his political enemies. And it was a potent weapon and he was right to do it. And we're thankful for Trump for doing this. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Bill Clinton. Nice guy. Got a lot of problems coming up in my opinion with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of problems. And you can tell Sean Hannity didn't even know what the hell he was talking about. It's not a knock on Sean.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It's just like, this wasn't something anyone was talking about. Trump knew what he was doing. He was telling the story. Trump knew about this. He knew what was happening. He knew about Epstein. He is the one who led. He is the one that created the first Epstein prosecution that should have.
Starting point is 00:17:07 In a fair world. And Donald Trump had absolutely no prosecutorial power. He had no political power. This was 2008. He wouldn't be president for nearly another decade. Trump was just a billionaire and a TV host. Trump kept talking about it, by the way, in more interviews at the same event. Here we go. You raised the question of Jeffrey Epstein in your remarks about the Q&A.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Well, I think he's got a problem. I don't think the problem will be. I don't know, but that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it. Just ask Prince Andrew. He'll tell you about it. The island was an absolute cesspool. What an inset, what a ballsy and unbelievable
Starting point is 00:17:46 thing to do. Donald Trump who knew who Jeffrey Epstein was, and knew what a monster he was naming the people on Epstein's list. Before any of us knew anything about it, Prince Andrew Bill Clinton, Trump was telling us the story. Trump started his political career, in fact, by saying there is a sick predator globalist cult that is out for children and they're monsters. And I am thankful to God that Donald Trump normalized this conversation. He was the first to do it. Donald Trump continued when Jeffrey Epstein was put in prison under his administration. Trump went out on the White House lawn and went, uh, scorched earth on Epstein. This is from the first admin go. I was not a fan of Jeffrey Epstein and you watched people yesterday saying that I threw
Starting point is 00:18:47 him out of a club. I didn't want anything to do with him. That was many, many years ago. It shows you one thing that I have good taste. Okay? Now other people, they went all over with him. They went to his island. They went all over the place.
Starting point is 00:19:02 He was very well known in Palm Beach. His island, whatever this island was, wherever it is, I was never there. Find out the people that went to the island. But Jeffrey Epstein was not somebody that I respected. I threw him out. In fact, I think the great James Patterson, who's a member of Mar-a-Lago, made a statement yesterday that many years ago I threw him out. I who's a member of Mar-a-Lago, made a statement yesterday that many years ago I threw him out.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I'm not a fan of Jeffrey Epstein. All of that is true. 100% of that is true. President Trump has every right to be very proud of his relationship with how, let me rephrase this, very proud of how he handled Jeffrey Epstein trying to wormhole his way into Trump's orbit.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Now, some people, others should be ashamed. Here's Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. In fact, after Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted predator, Bill Clinton maintained a strong relationship with him. Bill Clinton had Jeffrey Epstein at the White House dozens of times. There were paintings, oil paintings of Bill Clinton in lurid poses throughout Jeffrey Epstein's houses.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Bill Clinton did business relationships with Jeffrey Epstein. They did partnerships. They went on charity runs. Bill Clinton was constantly on the plane or at the island. Jelaine Maxwell was at the damn wedding of Bill Clinton's daughter. This is after Jeffrey Epstein catching a case for child sex trafficking.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Jelaine Maxwell gets an invite to Bill Clinton's only daughter's wedding. You tell me who has something to be ashamed about with Jeffrey Epstein. I'm defending Trump. Trump deserves defense here because Trump's, as far as everything we know that is public, President Trump has been on the right side of history with this man.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And he deserves defense because so many other powerful people, including other presidents, are on the wrong side of history. Right here. Yeah, you won't see any photos of Jeffrey Epstein in Trump's White House, right? Visiting him as president dozens of times. Look at Jelaine. They know they're gonna eat Clinton alive. And this is the point.
Starting point is 00:21:34 This is the point. Why is Jeffrey Epstein so important? It's a very simple answer. And it's why we're not gonna stop asking the question. The answer is because the American people have a right to know if their country is run by a petorist cult. And if that's who we're paying taxes to.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Because we are a good and moral people, a Christian people, and we don't want to do that. We don't want the protection of that. And more importantly, we don't want the people that we put in office to protect it either. Now this is the thing that is boggling. This is the thing that's breaking my brain this morning that I still can't get out of my head. I still can't figure out and why I think there's something going on that's breaking my brain this morning that I still can't get out of my head. I still can't figure out
Starting point is 00:22:25 and why I think there's something going on that's major sabotage here. Then we're gonna get into the fallout that's happening. And our phone calls with the administration and what we've heard. What I can't figure out as a guy who does this for a living, right? Cover the news cycle.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Extremely online, as they would say, weaponized autism, they would say, right? Somebody really, like we track these trends, we track the divots and the ups and the downs and what people are talking about, we track it so closely. You can control a news cycle and the Trump administration's very good at it.
Starting point is 00:23:00 The Trump administration promised that we would have disclosures on Epstein. They did so many, many times, but they did so on our show. So we have a personal connection to this. An example, one that's going viral right now. Cash on our show in 2023. viral right now. Cash on our show in 2023. Cash on our show in 2023 said exactly where the Epstein list is and exactly what needs to happen to it. Go. So are you like in closing here I want to just be very clear. Republicans could get Epstein's list out now? Like how
Starting point is 00:23:41 would that process work? Simple. Once subpoena to the FBI give me the list Oh, you don't want to give me the list and you're gonna break the law and can make contempt of Congress. We're gonna take your money We're gonna take Chris Ray's private jet Taxpayer funded g5 rides across the country to his Appalachian State vacation home down to Georgia and all over the rest of the place That guy doesn't need a G5 government funded jet. And the second you take that money, you get Epstein's list. Tears of problem cash is that they shut down the Lolita Express.
Starting point is 00:24:11 So how are these guys gonna fly on a private jet anymore? I mean, it's really a quandary, my friend. That clip's going thermonuclear viral right now. And many other questions from our interviews with Cash Fatale and other powerful people, the most powerful people in the world. We've never shied away from this topic because the abuse of children knows no party.
Starting point is 00:24:38 It shouldn't have any safe quarter or haven anywhere. This should be the one thing that we all universally agree upon. And if you abuse children, then you deserve to be exposed. You have no more protections. There is no one that should come to save you or your family.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Everything should be exposed. You gave up that right when you engaged in this sick and demonic activity. If you did so with the blessing of a powerful politician or with a powerful politician, if you did so with the operational capacity of an intelligence agency, then doubly so, we need to expose you and we need to know everything
Starting point is 00:25:23 so that it doesn't happen again. We don't want to pay taxes to a predator cult. This is like baseline. And the people who have brought forth this issue to their great and endearing credit is the Trump administration. an endearing credit is the Trump administration. Trump normalized Epstein in political circles by talking about him. Trump did this because Trump helped put Epstein in prison. Those dirty politicians got him out.
Starting point is 00:25:59 These dirty intel agencies got him out. There is no reason to protect Jeffrey Epstein. And many of Trump's top officials have declared on the record that they are going to release everything. Many of them have done it on our show, including a dude who was first appointed by President Trump to be your attorney general. His name is Matt Gaves. This is another clip that you'll see constantly
Starting point is 00:26:26 in your timeline right now. And we're so proud on this program to be consistent. Listen, we've asked this question. We've asked this question because it is the Rosetta Stone of deep state corruption, because the deciphering of what was going on with Epstein holds within it the skeleton key of everything they don on with Epstein holds within it, the skeleton key of everything they don't want you to know about their operations.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And we know that the CIA has used child abuse in their operation. We know that the CIA go pull up a Buzzfeed article as Buzzfeed article about the serial child abuse going on at the CIA. Serial child abuse uncovered inside of the CIA. Secret CIA files say staffers committed sex crimes involving children. Would you look at that? Let's read the top line here, shall we?
Starting point is 00:27:18 Let's scroll down, please. Yeah, okay. Here we go. Over the past 14 years, the Central Intelligence Agency has secretly amassed credible evidence that at least 10 of its employees committed sex crimes against children. There you go. You can go through and read the article. I encourage you to. There's something bigger here. And we're so proud of our work on this program, our small capacity, because like now these clips are all going viral.
Starting point is 00:28:00 We're so proud of our small capacity to have like led to a little bit of shining a little bit of light on this. And whatever, in whatever way we could. Matt Gaetz was selected first by President Trump to be the attorney general. We've been consistent in our asking of these questions. The answers have been wildly inconsistent. Some of the answers have aged really well.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Some of them have aged very poorly. Matt Gaetz's answer here has aged really well. Why is the world's foremost petarist protected? This makes no sense. Like this is like evil, right? Like everyone agrees on. They say you got a 90, you got a 99% issue. On Epstein, Bill Barr is the one that needs to be called in to give sworn testimony on
Starting point is 00:28:48 what happened there at Bureau of Prisons because that is not... There's just no way that the story you're getting is the real story there. No freaking way and Bill Barr knows it. I think most people believe that, right? Like it's like no way that that's- I actually think it was a- I actually think that on Epstein, it was a foreign government that took him out. I don't think it was a domestic enterprise. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:18 I do. I'm not going to say which one, but I don't think it was domestic inspired to take out of him. I think it was, it was domestic inspired to take out a hit. I think that was a foreign operation, government sponsored. So foreign operation took out Epstein inside of our prison. Yes. So they would have must have been allowed to. Oh, I think it was, it was in concert with people in our government, but not at like
Starting point is 00:29:42 some, you know, low level guard getting bribed kind of way. Yeah. At a state to state level. So, so that, wow. So that's probably a lot of party interests in keeping that under wraps. You better believe it. Weapon systems at play, at weapon systems at play, global deals at play. Interesting. You have evidence, back that up? Yes, I mean, he does. Is this why Matt Gaetz wasn't the attorney general? Oh man, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:23 All I know is that we and this program can humbly also proudly stand by our work on this. That we have been consistent on this. Asking powerful people these questions, sometimes uncomfortable questions, we asked Dershowitz about. This Dershowitz was Epstein's lawyer. We asked Dershowitz about Epstein,
Starting point is 00:30:41 did a whole show on it, asked him everything. Dershowitz alluded to Epstein potentially a whole show on it, asked him everything. Dershowitz alluded to Epstein potentially being run by Massad, it's insane. Nobody's ever gotten that on the record. But the point is, is that there's so much more here. And the case isn't closed, and it won't be closed. And this is like a thermonuclear Streisand effect, where if you keep yelling about something and saying don't ask the question, people are going to ask further questions.
Starting point is 00:31:11 It's going to confirm our worst suspicions, in fact, about Epstein. It's not going of Trump's strongest supporters, most ardent supporters and close friends are out bitterly on this topic. Here's Tucker Carlson yesterday. Who actually, so let's just assess this logically. They're covering up, the DOJ, the current DOJ under Pam Bondi is covering up crimes, very serious crimes by their own description.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Why are they doing that? So there really only two potential explanations that I can think of, maybe you've got another. The first is that Trump is involved, that Trump is on the list, that they've got tape of Trump doing something awful. I don't believe that for two reasons. One, I've talked to Trump about it a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And I know him. He's not that, you know, for whatever his sins. I don't think he's that guy. Actually, I don't think he likes creepy sex stuff. That's just my view. But moreover, but more, I think convincing is that this is all information that the Biden administration had. And if there was evidence that Trump had been involved in illegal sexual activity, you think the people who made up Russiagate wouldn't have leaked it? Come on now. So the only other explanation that I can think of,
Starting point is 00:32:32 again, maybe you've got another, is that Intel services are at the very center of the story, US and Israeli, and they're being protected. I think that seems like the most- That's the most obvious, if you have a history. and they're being protected. I think that seems like the most plausible. That's the most obvious, it has a history. And now we get to the final part that breaks my brain
Starting point is 00:32:52 and has kept me up quite frankly all night that I can't figure out. So let's say that was the conclusion. The conclusion is, and we've heard this a million times, sources and methods, right? Here's a photo of Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein having a nice fancy dinner. Sources and methods. That Jeffrey Epstein was a gun for hire being operated by multiple intel agencies. Of course he has direct connections to the CIA. We've covered that. He has direct connections to the FBI.
Starting point is 00:33:20 We've covered that. He has direct connections to Mossad. We've covered that and other foreign intel agencies like the French French the British and so on And his job was to create compromise on Some of the world's most powerful people Let's assume that that was the op And that you can't say anything about it because it will compromise your sources and methods, right? You'll never be able to give us these hard drives, right? With the evidence tape wrapped around them
Starting point is 00:33:48 that Epstein put there. The FBI didn't put it there. That's how the FBI found all the hard drives with the evidence tape wrapped around them. Let's say this is the case, which does seem logical. And you're not gonna be able to do anything else on this case because it will reveal so much nefarious activity inside of the intel agencies
Starting point is 00:34:10 and you're gonna have to protect them for whatever reason. Why release the memo the way that you did? I just, in the history of following this stuff, I have never seen anything more ham-handed or botched or destructive than the way that they released this memo in the dark of night, 9 p.m., on a Sunday, after a series of historic wins for Donald Trump. I mean, Trump at the very height of his power,
Starting point is 00:34:43 after defusing Iran and Israel, after diffusing Gaza, after diffusing so much around the world, President Trump economy roaring, so many things going in his favor, just passed the big, beautiful bill. Why? Release it to left-wing media so they'd leak it almost like as an insult to left-wing media to a left-wing reporter who hates Donald Trump. By the way, if you go check that reporter's byline, hates JD Vans. Why would you release it like this? Like it seems like on its face insult to everybody who has cared about this issue.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Let's say you let's say you have to say the sources and methods stuff because you have to protect the intelligence okay fine that's fine but you control the story you control the narrative so you could find a again it was a it was atrocious timing. The timing was terrible a series of like historic wins that that is cementing the MAGA base and Fusing everyone together and all these different disparate groups are like like like tentatively and slowly returning, right? It's very good You got to keep that coalition together. Why shatter it with something like this right now? If this is the conclusion you must come to, okay, let's say they have no choice. They do have a choice.
Starting point is 00:36:07 We're gonna get to that in just a second. But let's say you have no choice. That at the very least, you do this on Fox News. At the very least, you go to Brett Baer, Martha McCallum, and you sit down for an hour and you explain your work. You explain yourself. Maybe you bring a bunch of evidence to that interview and you reveal it live.
Starting point is 00:36:27 You show the prison tape and you explain it. If there is a missing minute, you damn well better know about it and not be caught off guard by it, which they were. And you go through and you explain why that is. Slowly, confidently, and with the full understanding that not everyone's going to be happy with it. But at the very least, you're not trying to sneak around the issue.
Starting point is 00:37:02 That's the thing that boggles my mind. That's the thing that's breaking my brain right now. The trust us bro, we looked into it, move along. That's not the country we live in anymore. And it's not the Trump administration's fault. They didn't break the machine. The machine was broken decades before they assumed power. The machine was broken in 2018.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Here's the document again, from the FBI saying Epstein's hours. Stay away from Epstein. And Trump wasn't in power at this time. Cash Patel wasn't in power. I don't even know what Cash Patel was doing at this time. Bongino was what? The man who helped to shape US monetary policy just released a bombshell book called Our
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Starting point is 00:38:33 You should always consult your financial and tax professional. At podcasting, was John Geno still in the Secret Service? Right? Like what, Obama's president? 2008, maybe the end of the Bush years? None of these people had power. These systems were broken and destroyed decades before they got here, but they're still acting as though these institutions have the faith of the full faith and trust of the American people. Trust us. It's good. Don't worry about it. No You must show your work
Starting point is 00:39:08 So the timing of this boggles the mind I'm angry that Trump has put in this situation. I'm Wondering like how much of this how much of these decision matrices went, you know through Official channels and the one thing that I'll reveal about my conversations over the last couple of days with people inside the White House and outside of the administration is a deep and abiding frustration and boiling anger over how this has been handled
Starting point is 00:39:40 and how this has been released. There is a way to release it. We talked about it yesterday. Where is all of that damn evidence? All the evidence that we constantly put up on the show, all the evidence that even CNN is talking about. What the hell is wrong with us, man? Jake Tapper on CNN talking about how much evidence there is
Starting point is 00:40:08 and how the DOJ is lying about this. Because Jake Tapper has access to what we have access to, which is the government's own documents right here showing tons of evidence that is currently in lockup. In the Southern District of New York, the DOJ has access to it. It's what's called under seal because there is a ongoing appeal right now with the Jelaine Maxwell. So that's how they're there. That's how they're hiding the evidence. You can know you'll notice here. Here's a good example. You'll notice that there's an NYPD. There's NYPD logos on those shirts. There's FBI and NYPD right there in this house during the Epstein raid of little St. James. So this is where it is.
Starting point is 00:40:54 It's all sitting there in New York in lockup. Whatever hasn't been, whatever has or hasn't been destroyed. But according to my sources, like again, once the feds like lock something up and get evidence entered into the system, it is really tough to destroy it. My sources tell me that it's not because the evidence
Starting point is 00:41:15 has all been destroyed. Although they say that the CIA is very good at that. And the CIA, whatever they have, might've been destroyed. But FBI and main justice, whatever they have might've been destroyed, but FBI and main justice, that all this absolute mountain of evidence sits in lockup under seal. And we know that because the federal governments own photos and documents and videos.
Starting point is 00:41:42 But they're gonna act like we're dumb and we can't see them and can't read them ourselves. And I cannot believe I have to do this, but here's Jake Tapper sounding like Tucker Carlson saying what's what's going on? The government's lying to us. There's obviously enormous amounts of evidence that they refuse to release to the public. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:42:05 So what's really going on here? I mean, what's really going on? Well, experts such as our friend Julie Brown from the Miami Herald, who has been covering Epstein for years, say that the notion of Epstein having an easy to access client list is likely a red herring. And that's what the Trump administration is relying on, that there likely isn't a list per se.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But they are also now relying on the fact that because it's MAGA influencers, who often put forward so many falsehoods, legacy news media won't push the point, that while there might not be a list, there are certainly files that can be released. There's a trove of information that the Trump administration is right now refusing to share. Information that could well point to the powerful folks who availed themselves of the sex trafficking
Starting point is 00:42:52 victims of Jeffrey Epstein. If you go, for example, to the FBI vault online, you can see that there are 22 files containing thousands of pages. Most of them are heavily redacted. Now, sure, of course, redact the names and identifying characteristics of the victims. But why not make the victim and witness testimonies public? As Julie Brown points out, there's still so much we don't know from the investigations by U.S. attorneys in Miami and in New York, witness interviews in the U.S. Virgin Islands and New Mexico. Brown writes that there's still more evidence
Starting point is 00:43:23 that hasn't been published, including, quote, Epstein kept video cameras in most of his residences. And Epstein's autopsy, nor the report of the investigation into his death, has ever been made public. So while there may not be an official client list to be released, as the administration is now saying, there's a lot of extra information that is not being made public, despite Trump's Justice Department basically now saying case closed. This isn't going to go away. The public, you, you're being played for fools here. I'm angry. I'm a Trump ally.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I know so many people in the administration. I know those people are calling me and they're ain't very angry about it. And of course, if you look the same way that we do, constantly, you can see that on the DOJ's own website, FBI's own website, there are files with massive redactions. There are witness statements. There are hundreds of victims. You're gonna sit there and say that
Starting point is 00:44:29 there were hundreds of child abuse victims and you're not gonna go after the abusers? What country do we live in? I can't believe that I have to say it, but Jake Tapper's right. He's right. That clip is right. There's so much more evidence. So to say the case closed, shut up. Stop talking about it. We looked into it, bro. Move along. It doesn't work anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And even Trump's most ardent supporters are breaking on this. Bannon, Tucker, Megyn Kelly. Here's Megyn Kelly's take on the coverup saying, this is a massive coverup. She's calling for Pam Bondi's resignation. Here we go. Kind of an attorney general would pretend
Starting point is 00:45:17 she's giving new information to some of the president's most loyal advocates in the press, you know, buying ink by the barrel. What, so either Pam Bonny knew she was about to embarrass some of his most loyal surrogates out there and did that willingly, or she didn't take the time to make sure what was in those binders.
Starting point is 00:45:41 She was too lazy to actually figure out none of this is new. And yet she called a meeting with the influencers that included Cash Patel, the head of the FBI and the sitting vice president. So she's either lazy and incompetent or she willingly humiliated some of the president's most loyal supporters. Neither one of those is good and that's why I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:46:06 but I'm gonna predict her days are numbered as a member of the Trump administration. I'm not gonna bring him on the show, even though he happens to be live, even though he happens to be literally live here in the studio, but ALX was among those group of Trump-supporting influencers who were brought to the White House
Starting point is 00:46:22 and had an enormous amount of character assassination done by the fumbling of this topic. And I just cannot for the life of me figure out why. These are Trump supporters. These are people that fight in the MAGA movement. Some of them have been on the show. Scott Pressler's been on the show for sure. You know, Libs of TikTok.
Starting point is 00:46:51 ALX was there. ALX got a binder. Why would you do this? After, again, that is the remaining question. And the more they say, the more they strides and affect this and say, don't ask questions, bro, move along. The more people are going to ask questions, the more our worst suspicions are confirmed. And that's the thing that just does again, again, the thing I cannot get out of my skull
Starting point is 00:47:21 is why do it this way? Why do it that way? Why do this? If there is no Epstein files, why hand them the Epstein files? It was already public information. That's what most people don't get, that it was public information that was unredacted
Starting point is 00:47:36 and they redacted it in the binders. So extra salt on the wound, extra insult to some of the president's top supporters. Why do that? Well, we found out in phone calls, apparently nobody at the White House knew that this was going to happen. Knew that this was about to happen. It was a total surprise to them.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And I wonder about this memo. The timing seems so suspicious, it seems so strange. It's just not helpful in any way and it breaks, it shatters a very good news cycle for the president. Patrick David is a close friend of President Trump. Trump's been on a show a couple of times. They know each other. So, and same with Jesse Waters, obviously. Jesse Waters and Patrick David are friends of the president. They're saying this is the single biggest fumble
Starting point is 00:48:36 of the entire Trump administration. That it's a nightmare. And we agree with them. Here we go. The number one trending hashtag right now on X is Epstein. Two million people have tweeted with on x is Epstein two million people have tweeted with the topic of Epstein number two is Nicki Minaj at a hundred thousand Comey's at forty two and a half thousand there is a reason why people are asking about this this is
Starting point is 00:48:55 by far and I'm a supporter three times I voted for this man this is by far the biggest fumble of the administration they've had thus far and And here's the reason why. If you remember pre the president winning, he had a conversation with Fox News, the great Rachel Campos Duffy. And she asked Mr. President, 911. Yes. John F. Kennedy. Yes. Epstein.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Ah, he didn't say yes. He was a little bit hesitant of bringing that information out. Why? So why does his leadership team go out there and are like, we have this information, and we're going to release this and cash. And let me tell you what we have with Pam Bondi at a state of Florida.
Starting point is 00:49:33 She knew everything about Bondi, about Epstein. Why are you fumbling this? Why are you not having an emergency meeting together to conversate and say, hey, we're going to be on the same page with messaging on this? All you have to do is send a message to everybody, say, God, let's have a conference call. Here's what we're going to be saying about this, because this was a very important issue to not 80% of voters that voted for President Trump, but I think 20% of voters wanted to
Starting point is 00:49:57 know what's going to happen with Epstein, and it's a big letdown. I totally get the big victories. Tariff, $300 billion valuation this year. How much money is going to come from tariffs? Last year, the government only got $80 billion or so. That's like a company increasing their valuation by 4x. Massive victory. The stuff that's going on with different areas were winning. What happened with Iran, the back and forth, the conversations? I think this was the biggest fumble when it came down to Epstein. And the more they answer like that, the more attention you're going to to people gonna ask why are they so nervous about this?
Starting point is 00:50:28 What do you know that the rest of us don't know if it's just the fact that you want to hold people blackmail Is that the relation between everything everyone's read the stories? It's not like we don't know what it is It's not like the only thing people watch nowadays is Fox people watch Twitter people go X people go CNN people go chat GPT people know what happened with this guy But my biggest suggestion let's not have another fumble like the one we just had here Because this was the biggest fumble by the administration So I could look when Epstein's own brother is coming out talk about how stupid you are Jeffrey Epstein's brother rips feds for ruling pedophiles death as a suicide. I laughed at how stupid it was. Jeffrey Epstein's brother said he laughed
Starting point is 00:51:08 at how stupid the feds are for suddenly ruling out the possibility that the pedophile brothers jail death was anything but a suicide. Every time they say something or do something or try and quash the fact that he was most likely murdered, they put their foot further in their mouth, Mark Epstein said. And I'm gonna want the Dr. Baden interview after this, just FYI, I know that Alex grabbed it.
Starting point is 00:51:30 He highlighted how FEI director Cash Patel listed his credentials as a prosecutor saying, you know a suicide when you see it. You know, that's basically what he said, Epstein said dismissively. Mark Epstein noted that Patel is not a forensic pathologist, and that he had no medical degree and questioned whether he even been a Boy Scout merit badge for aid and confirmed that his brother killed himself in Manhattan in 2019. He noted two medical examiners involving involved in the autopsies, Christian
Starting point is 00:52:01 Roman and Michael Baden, who were unable to give firm rulings. The brothers suggested they pointed more to a homicide with Jeffrey Epstein. The reason that it points to a homicide is because there are broken bones in his neck. And I want to just like stop for just a very quick second here and like, can we just look very quickly at, let's just assume the full government's case.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Okay. Let's assume everything that they said about the death of Jeffrey Epstein was true. We know it's an absolute falsehood what they said about his client list. Of course there's a client list. It's under seal right now in Jelaine Maxwell's case. They made a deal that Jelaine Maxwell's 2000 page name and address book doesn't get made public. We know there's a client list, obviously. We know there's blackmail because we've covered how Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed Bill Gates when Bill Gates had an affair with a young Russian who was half his age.
Starting point is 00:52:56 These are all matters of public record, not open for debate. Okay. It's there. It's real. We know that Jeffrey Epstein's accusers said that Bill Clinton liked him young. We know that, it's in the literal documents. So let's just look at the Epstein death. This man is in the most secure federal prison facility that exists. Rudy Giuliani was on the show. He was talking about how secure that prison is,
Starting point is 00:53:27 that nobody escapes that prison. The Manhattan Federal Penitentiary, downtown Manhattan, the worst of the worst are put there. Jeffrey Epstein wasn't maximum walk-up. Jeffrey Epstein was on the most secure floor, in the most secure tier, in the most secure cell. In fact, the diagram of the prison, you can see that Jeffrey Epstein's cell is directly across from the prison guard. The guard can look right at it.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And he kills himself? He was already on suicide watch. Do you know this? Jeffrey Epstein was already dinged for trying to kill himself once all these bruises around his neck and in that in that environment Jeffrey Epstein was given extra linens and a cell by himself And a place to hang himself from not a mattress on the floor, but like an actual metal mattress to hang himself from This is just assuming the federal government is telling the truth and that he definitely killed himself a hundred percent. Yep. He killed himself.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Just doing that. I don't believe that, but even still it is a massive scandal that somebody can pull that off in the federal penitentiary system. Even still it's like the feds gave him the tools to kill himself and then told him to go do it. Also a scandal. Was Cash Patel in that autopsy room? No. Was Cash Patel in prison when they found Jeffrey Epstein?
Starting point is 00:54:57 No, I don't think so. And if he was there, that raises a bigger question, says Mark Epstein, when Cash Patel came out with his statement, I laughed at how stupid it was. The Department of Justice stated in a memo that there was no evidence that the predator was killed by somebody else in the Manhattan prison. What's crazy is that we went through this yesterday,
Starting point is 00:55:12 this thread, this thread is wild about how inconclusive the footage is and how the footage doesn't show Jeffrey Epstein's cell. It doesn't show even the cell tier door. It doesn't even show the wing of the prison that Epstein's in. It just shows the greater overall entrance to the floor of the prison that includes massive amounts of cells. You can't see the entry to Jeffrey Epstein's prison cell. That's what the angle of Jeffrey Epstein's prison cell entry would look like. That's what the guard would see if they looked up.
Starting point is 00:55:51 That's Epstein's door right there. This is why it's fascinating. When Alan Dershowitz was asked about this, he was Epstein's lawyer. And I know there's nothing but hatred for Dershowitz in this audience, I get it. But you know, it's a good source of information here. When Dershowitz was on a different show,
Starting point is 00:56:12 I think it was Kim Iverson, he was asked about this and he goes, oh no, no, no, Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself, the guards helped kill him. I'm sorry, say what now? This is Epstein's lawyer saying, no, no, no, you don't understand, the guards killed Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Well, I guess that would explain all the extra linens and the broken bone in his neck. Do we have that? I know we posted it yesterday. That's fine. It's totally fine. We can just put, you can just put up the tweet when you pluck it up, it's on the feed.
Starting point is 00:56:43 So to do all of it is to insult our intelligence. To go through all of this, to put us through all of this is to insult our intelligence. It is frustrating. Alan Dershowitz, Shocks reporter. Did Epstein kill himself? No, of course not. He didn't kill himself without the help of some people.
Starting point is 00:57:03 He killed himself with the help of the guards. But, okay. Yeah, I mean, I guess so actually based on all available evidence that the feds released. I mean, it does actually show that shockingly. None of it makes sense. There's so many strange things. It would take us the next three years to go through everything that
Starting point is 00:57:28 is totally and completely incongruent with the federal government story here. And I the lingering question is why? Well, he belongs to an intel agency and we don't want to give up all the intel agency assets and we know the CIA already has a child predator problem. Okay, but then why further? all the intel agency assets, and we know the CIA already has a child predator problem. Okay, but then why further, why do it now? And why do it in this way? And why leak it to left-wing media? And why do it in this current environment?
Starting point is 00:57:55 Why do it in a way that's going to like drag good people from the Trump administration into it, and then smear them? The whole thing to me smells like a setup. The whole thing to me smells like administration into it and then smear them. The whole thing to me smells like a setup. The whole thing to me smells like people who aren't locked in and focused enough on their jobs and are treating this flippantly without realizing that we don't want to pay taxes to a child predator cult.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And that's our right as the American people. We actually run this country and they don't. And so you don't get to tell us what we should care about or not care about or what questions we can ask and can't ask. In fact, the more you do that, the more you guarantee that we'll be talking about Jeffrey Epstein till kingdom come
Starting point is 00:58:39 until the administration actually comes out with all of the evidence and does what they did in the JFK files by releasing tens of thousands of documents, many of them embarrassing for the government, many of them quite fascinating, a lot of them boring. But at the very least, that's a trust bond for the American people. Here's everything.
Starting point is 00:58:58 That's what Tulsi Gabbard did. That shirt released the pressure release valve that moved the pressure release valve for JFK assassination In a good direction in like a in like a we trust each other direction, which is good Ladies gentlemen, they haven't done any of that. They've done the opposite So they've increased the pressure and done unspeakable and unnecessary damage in the way that they actually handled this. My final thought on this, before we move on,
Starting point is 00:59:36 do we have the pathologist? Fascinating. It's just fascinating. Just to show you how embarrassing, show you how embarrassed I was just because we talked about it. Listen to this guy and we haven't played this clip in ages. It's a years old clip. Listen to this pathologist. This man actually did the autopsy on Epstein. He actually was there. There are so few people that were there. We weren't there. We can just speculate. Many people, Cash Patel wasn't there. Neither was Bondino. Neither was Bondi. This guy was physically managing the autopsy and he said he was killed. His neck bones were broken, idiots.
Starting point is 01:00:17 You don't break your own neck bones in committing suicide. Nobody's that strong. It's actually impossible. Your body doesn't move that way. Something broke his neck. Listen. Thanks so much for coming on. If you wouldn't mind just summarizing for us what we know, what you know about Epstein's death. Well, I was present at the autopsy
Starting point is 01:00:41 and there were three fractures in the windpipe that are much more typical of crush injury from homicidal strangulation than from hanging. There were particular hemorrhages in the eyes, again more typical of a homicide. And the ligature imprint on the neck didn't match the ligature that was present in the cell, made from a sheet. So I thought that made it more likely that this was a homicide than a suicide. But we never got to find out how the body was found. Was he found hanging or not, for example, because the two guards were sleeping through that time. He was dead for a few hours before he was found. And the two guards never made a statement
Starting point is 01:01:38 that was released as to how the body was found. The body was just cut down and brought out to a hospital where it was pronounced dead. It's unbelievable. Where are the congressional hearings on this? Yeah, where are they? Where are they? It's the final thing I can't figure out,
Starting point is 01:02:04 but I'll give the Trump administration the roadmap to restore or to begin the restoration of trust here. And this is the only thing that will ever stop this question. You got to release it all. You got to say we trust you. It's going to be embarrassing. It's going to hurt. It's going to hurt some of our allies.
Starting point is 01:02:22 It's going to hurt the foreign nations that he was working with. It's going to some of our allies. It's gonna hurt the foreign nations that he was working with. It's gonna damage this or that. There might be a lot at stake, but we're gonna release what we can. There's gonna be some redactions. You're gonna see everything. You're gonna see what the op was. We're gonna see what he was doing.
Starting point is 01:02:35 You're gonna see who was doing what. Virginia Roberts, one of the chief Epstein victims, has a diary. It's awful. It's on my timeline. Alex, can you grab that? That's the last thing I'll ask for here. Virginia Roberts has a diary. It's awful. It's on my timeline. Alex, can you grab that last thing I'll ask for here? Virginia Roberts has this diary. It's just terrible.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And she's talking about how Epstein would like, you know, was trafficking her and was filming everything. And it was, it's a zero hedge tweet. It's a zero hedge tweet on my timeline. Yeah. And it's like, and how, how, they were, they were, there it is, yeah. I used to be watched by Epstein's hidden cameras,
Starting point is 01:03:11 which I have seen myself. The FBI has the archive footage showing me being abused by other men. It was being used as blackmail. This is from her private diary. Okay, well, I'm prone to believe this young woman who was targeted and trafficked by Epstein for decades and had a multimillion pound payout by the royal family
Starting point is 01:03:36 got Prince Andrew stripped of his title. You're going to have to be out with it. It's the only way to end it. If what Epstein was up to was so sensitive and was so damaging to our Intel community and foreign Intel communities that you can't talk about it and you can't release it, then you need to tell that to the American people. You can just say, sorry, not this one.
Starting point is 01:04:07 You can't run a campaign saying you're gonna do this and then slam the door shut. You can't do it. On the way that we started, which is that we actually have President Trump to thank. President Trump should be proud of what he's done on this issue. We have President Trump to thank. President Trump should be proud of what he's done on this issue. We have President Trump to thank for the mainstreaming
Starting point is 01:04:32 and mainlining of this issue. And in some of his earliest days in politics, he's the only one who was talking about it, showed incredible bravery, and the only case that Epstein ever caught was because of President Trump. So this administration should take the W, should turn around, reverse course,
Starting point is 01:04:54 should listen to their base and should say, nope, out with it. Set up a special counsel, set up a special team of third party investigators to go after the DOJ, the Bureau of Prisons, the FBI to go after prior administrations. Why should Trump and this administration suffer for the sins of prior administrations? They didn't do this. Why are, why is the Trump team taking the fall?
Starting point is 01:05:30 Thing I cannot, the thing that keeps me up at night, why is the Trump team taking the fall for the sins and demonic evils of other administrations? That is the lingering question, ladies and gentlemen. We're posting a lot on it. Will there be more breaking news on this? I'm not sure, I'm not sure. I have a feeling though, we're posting a lot on it. Will there be more breaking news on this? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I have a feeling though, we're not done with this one yet.
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Starting point is 01:07:03 DOJ charges two people for helping Ryan Routh alleged Trump assassination plot. This is wild. Ryan Routh was the man who tried to murder Trump at his golf course here in Florida. And now they have charged two accomplices, Justice Department has charged two people in North Carolina for helping Ryan Routh
Starting point is 01:07:22 obtain the SKS style rifle as part of an alleged assassination attempt on Donald Trump as Palm Beach golf course, the co conspirators, Tina Brown Cooper and Ronnie J. Oxidine were both charged in March and have already pled guilty their cases have not been publicized until now. Neither Cooper nor Oxidine knew that Routh was planning to kill President Trump. According to DOJ, Routh called Cooper was who was an employee at a roofing business,
Starting point is 01:07:46 to procure the rifle. Cooper recommended Routh buy the firearm at a pawn shop, and so they got him, they hit him with a charge of assistance in all this. Oxidine apparently didn't know Cooper was buying the gun for Routh, when they all showed up to the business. Oxidine was surprised to see Routh,
Starting point is 01:08:03 who hadn't been seen there in over a decade. This again, a very mysterious and strange story that has no real answers. We'll see how quickly that one's covered up. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Mark Eiglarsh is a former prosecutor here in the state of Florida. He joins us to put a little bit of actual
Starting point is 01:08:29 prosecutorial muscle into this story. We're interested to hear what he has to say. Welcome, Mark. Mark, thank you for being on the program. Thank you for your patience. This is a really tough moment for the administration because there's so much demonstrable evidence that is in the public arena that we can see is clearly held by the feds, yet they say that there's nothing else there.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Can you explain like what's actually happening here when it comes to evidence under seal and under federal custody? Yeah, first of all, they created an expectation in all of us that there was something major that was going to come out We didn't do that. They did And expectations I always say are future resentments We raise our expectations and then when we don't get what we want, and we're frustrated, and then the leader of the free world gets on us for asking additional questions
Starting point is 01:09:32 like he did the other day. That's a problem. So what happened was, look, there may be, I'm not jumping on the everybody's guilty, something nefarious bandwagon like you are, although I can be convinced, I just need to know more. At a minimum, the way they handled this is so grossly inappropriate that I don't know. I think Megyn Kelly's call for Bondi to leave isn't completely unjustified if we need to rely upon the words that flow from her lips in the future.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yeah, I mean, I think that's what's most important here is, and I know many of these players personally, they've been on the show and many of their clips are going viral from old interviews. We've been asking about this for a long time, Mark. They want to restore trust. They want to restore faith in these institutions. They must have it for operational ability They have to have it in order to do their jobs. They can't have every single job that they do tainted and Shadowed by what the American people perceive as a cover-up Can we go back to something that let's go back to that moment? Because I do a lot of TV appearances and sometimes I say things because I'm tired or I misunderstood or it's it's it's put in a different context and then I don't have the chance to go back on TV and
Starting point is 01:10:55 Clarify she's in a different boat. So when John Roberts asked her in no I mean there was nothing ambiguous about what he asked about the list, not about the file being on your desk, but the list that she responded and now claims it was about the file and not specifically out the list. I'm saying that's a possibility. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt and I'm saying there's a chance that she actually inadvertently misled us all. So how do you handle it? You don't have someone from the White House be your talking person.
Starting point is 01:11:31 You get in front of the American people and you do something that we don't see with politicians. It kills me. And that is, I screwed up folks. I inadvertently responded to the question about the list by talking about the file. And I understand why you all believed erroneously that there was a list that I had seen, but I apologize for that. Moving forward, I'm going to do better. We don't get anything near that.
Starting point is 01:11:58 We were like dismissed for even asking additional questions. And that to me, the way it was handled, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, but the way she handled it up to this point stinks. Yeah, Mark, can you talk me through what it means to have so much evidence under seal? Is that this is what we found from our sources in the government that there is pending appeal for Jelaine Maxwell's case. And so much of that evidence is kept tightly bound up in the Southern District of New York
Starting point is 01:12:29 and that it cannot get accessed by the FBI. Only main justice could access that evidence with the approval of a judge. And that that's why there is this brick wall there. Does that stand to reason, given your legal background? That happens. Look, I'm not an expert at that level. I'm the guy who's demanding everything all the time as a defense attorney, and they only give me, you know, what they, what they feel like giving me. So I do understand that that stuff does happen, but when you look at all the other things that have gone on in this case, everyone has every reason now to be suspect on their
Starting point is 01:13:04 responses. And, and here's the other thing that kills me. If I hear one more time, there's child pornography and we're not going to give out child pornography. Who the hell is asking for that? Nobody is. Stop saying we want that. We understand that if you put out information that we so desperately need that that's not going to be part of the material that we receive. We don't want to see that. It is disturbing, nobody wants it. What we want is all the other stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:33 And if you have to heavily redact it, I understand to protect the victims, the Privacy Act absolutely guarantees their protection. But what about the rest of the stuff? You know, that's what we want access to. Why not give it? Why not give access to it? I mean, it just seems like such a basic, such a basic practice in establishing trust is,
Starting point is 01:13:57 you know, here, here, for instance, on the screen is a manila envelope. We see this is in the federal government's own records. It's a manila envelope with a bunch of passports. That's weird. Some of the passports didn't have, it was Epstein's photo, but not his real name. So the pseudonyms, that's strange, very odd. Like that, he's dead.
Starting point is 01:14:14 He's a pedophile, he's dead. Why does he have protections? Why can't we just see that? The other thing is a box of diamonds. This is just in this photo. There's a lot in this photo, but that's a box of diamonds. Like where'd they come from? Where are they now?
Starting point is 01:14:24 Who gave them to him? Like this isn't predator material, right? Why not just show us these things to start like piecing together the constellation of who Jeffrey Epstein was and what he was doing. You know what I say in response? I asked the same question. Why don't they show it to us? Especially now, when again, when Donald Trump said, I mean, condemned, it wasn't even like dismissive, it was condemning those who inquired about it. And Pan Bondi then said, no, no, no, I'll handle it, Donald, I'll handle it.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And then she didn't handle it. It raised more questions. So what you can release, just release that. We'll try to be more understanding that the rest of the stuff is to protect the victims, but just give us something. You can't tell me that 100% of the material you have is protected and somehow is gonna compromise
Starting point is 01:15:17 someone's privacy. I don't buy it. I agree with you so much. And in fact, that's probably the greatest insult that has been leveled against People who are asking in good faith about this because we just don't want to pay taxes to a child predator cult And so you should be absolving you've heard me talk about blackout coffee for a long time now and there's a reason for that It's not just about the coffee
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Starting point is 01:16:45 to cover it up. I think that's a pretty honest thing to be asking, but the lurid assumption that all we want is predator material. Like that everyone's like calling for us to, for them to release things and re-victimize women. No one's calling for that. It seems to be like the rote. They, they came up with it. They came up with a response and that was the response, which is insane to me. Yeah. No, I don't disagree with you. I don't jump on the bandwagon though, that, that he was murdered at Epstein was murdered, which is a separate issue. Right. I am open to learn more. Now they, at first I was like, okay, so the,
Starting point is 01:17:24 so the video is missing that one minute because every day it jumps ahead at midnight. OK, I got it. And then for a second, I was OK with that. I go, all right, enough already. Ben and the others who are saying this might be murder. And then I went, well, wait a second. The people at the jail know about the one minute.
Starting point is 01:17:43 That means every day there's one minute that they have to do something nefarious. I'm not saying that that occurred. I'm just saying it's the backdrop of how we've been treated with this whole investigation. I'm not going to plausibly rule out that as a possibility. So in your experience doing these kind of cases and explaining to the public about the cases or explaining and working through some of the complications and technicalities here, how would you have advised this be handled? Right? Let's, let's say the government came to these conclusions. How do you handle this in a way that doesn't blow up as a live grenade? You treat it the same way you treat your spouse, your friend. When you owe them an explanation, you don't say, relax, stop asking me about that. What the hell? What kind of reaction is that going to get for every action? There's a reaction.
Starting point is 01:18:36 My wife tells me to relax. My wife tells me you don't need to ask questions about that. I am fixated. I am not going to stop. So the first thing you do is you don't be dismissive. You say, folks, I understand why you're perceiving this the way that you are. Let's go through it step by step. First and foremost, Pam Bondi, just hold a press conference now. Just get it out there and say, let me explain. I won't go through what I said earlier, but just let me explain what happened just from a human nature perspective.
Starting point is 01:19:09 And when you're on TV, sometimes you misunderstand, just explain that and have folks just go through and explain it in a calm, non, I don't know, non-political way, just like human to human explain. And maybe folks like me, who try to give people the benefit of the doubt will understand what you're doing. Right now, we got more questions. Do you believe that? I mean, it's really makes a lot of sense to me that this is just the classic protection of sources and methods. And we see this constantly in American politics, or the intel agencies are able to just swoop in
Starting point is 01:19:47 and say, nope, you're not allowed to ask these questions. It sure feels like that. Here's how smart I am. I know that I don't know. I don't know. And I don't like when people say, this is what's going on. I mean, that's what makes America great. First Amendment, you can do it.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Others can do it. I'm not saying I know exactly the reason why, why we're not getting the information, why Pam said what she said, why Trump said what he said and he's acting. I don't know and it could be something completely innocent. I don't know. That's my answer. I don't know. So you're a defense, you're a former prosecutor or defense attorney? Sorry. Former prosecutor. I worked with Janet Reno when she was down here in Miami, and then I stayed in the office and I'm a long time veteran defense attorney. I practiced for over 33 years in spite of my extraordinarily youthful appearance. 33 years, you're a defense
Starting point is 01:20:42 attorney. So let's say you're defending Jolene Maxwell and they come out and they say, you know, there were no clients. There's all these victims but absolutely no customers, no clients. Jelaine Maxwell is in prison for sex trafficking. Do you take that case? Do you say like, well, wait a second, hold on. She's in prison for for mass sex trafficking to whom exactly? Do you just admitted that there were no clients? So how is my client in jail? Well, yes, I certainly am more interested in taking a case like that.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I would need to know more. I'd pick up the phone and speak with a prosecutor. And if he said something like, you know, what Trump did, like, don't ask these questions. Well, yeah, I'd want in on that case more than ever. But most likely he will treat me like most federal prosecutors that I deal with on a daily basis. He'll say, let me do this. Let me get you the evidence. Let me get you this and that. And we're going to go through it. I'm happy to help you with that. Because again, what's in it for them?
Starting point is 01:21:39 If you really have the goods against my client, I'm going to tell my client, it's probably best if you plead. If you don't have the goods, we're going to trial. And you don't want to against my client, I'm going to tell my client, it's probably best if you plead. If you don't have the goods, we're going to trial. And you don't want to go to trial if I'm just misinformed. So help me out and give me that information. That's how I would handle it. What do you think the government could do right now, you know, in conclusion to fix this? Because again, I, you know, I call it like the Boy Scout in me, Mark, but I want to be able to trust our federal law enforcement. Some of our friends and guests of the show
Starting point is 01:22:10 and friends of the program are now in high positions within this administration. They need that trust. It's already been atomized. And in large part, I think that Team Trump didn't break that trust. It was broken decades ago and has been further chiseled away and atomized, but they've inherited
Starting point is 01:22:27 it nonetheless. So they own it. And so how do they fix it right now? Okay. So in fairness, let me start with why this is challenging for them. They're damned either way at this point. If they release anything, it's going to be so heavily redacted that you're going to go off.
Starting point is 01:22:46 I can't wait to see your show when you get the redacted stuff and you're just going to read into things. It's going to be a nightmare. At the same time, there's a nightmare right now. So they need to release stuff. We need to see, okay, we understand you have to protect the privacy of people and no, we don't want the child porn, but what they release to us will satisfy some because finally they're showing some transparency. I think as between the two theories I just advanced, start releasing some stuff. Just show us.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Just show us. Yeah. That's the answer. Yeah. Who has it? who has a dozen passports from different countries with their names, with pseudonyms on them? And that's strange. Like, again, like little things like that doesn't hurt anyone and proves that you're not protecting a pederast because why does he deserve any protection? He's dead, right?
Starting point is 01:23:40 He's a dead pederast. So why does he deserve any protection at all? Who's being hurt by this out with it? Right. Yes. Yeah. And in the abundance of caution, you tell me that certain things can't be released because it might affect the victims. Okay. I'm going to give you that in the abundance of caution, but there's so much in a case. I get handed gigabytes of material and so much of it is just innocuous. It doesn't have to deal with victims. Okay, give us that. How about let's start there. Yeah, let's start there. It'd be nice to start.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Mark, maybe you can get a job at Maine Justice. No, thank you. I respectfully decline. Start advising Maine Justice. Thank you for joining the program, Mark. Godspeed. Here's Mark's social media right here. You can check him out on X.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Got 20,000 subscribers there and he follows zero. There you go. Somebody stole my account. So that's no longer me anymore. Just find me on Instagram. Anyway, thanks for having me. Oh, all right. Okay, all right. Well, thank on Instagram. Anyway, thanks for having me. Oh, all right. Okay, all right.
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