The Best One Yet - ☹️ “AI Party Police — Airbnb’s Halloween plan. Wikipedia vs Grokipedia. The Great Hiring Freeze. +Stock Market’s #1 Day

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Airbnb is using AI to block parties this Halloween… It’s their new Party Pooper with a Purpose.Wikipedia visits are falling for the 1st time… and Elon Musk launched “Grokipedia”.Amazon is la...ying off 14K, UPS just laid off 48K… We’ll tell you how to prep for the Great Hiring Freeze.Plus, October 28th is the #1 stock market day of the year… and maybe in history.Yeti Slack Group: https://join.slack.com/t/tboypod/shared_invite/zt-3gzqbodes-Rsna_S3cjjjKP5LvC3jYQw $ABNB $TSLA $UPS $AMZN $SPYNEWSLETTER:https://tboypod.com/newsletter OUR 2ND SHOW:Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/NEW LISTENERSFill out our 2 minute survey: https://qualtricsxm88y5r986q.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_dp1FDYiJgt6lHy6GET ON THE POD: Submit a shoutout or fact: https://tboypod.com/shoutouts SOCIALS:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tboypod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tboypodYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tboypod Linkedin (Nick): https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolas-martell/Linkedin (Jack): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-crivici-kramer/Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Nick. This is Jack. It's Wednesday, Sub-I-J Wednesday, October 29th. And today's pod is the best one yet. This is a T-Boy. The top three pop business news stories you need to know today. All right, Jack, you want to tell what the Yetis we've been up to? Why don't you share with the besties out there?
Starting point is 00:00:16 Well, if you tap the link in our show notes, you can join what we call the Pop-Biz News Club. That's right. Jack and I've had a Slack group for Yetties and Besties to connect with each other. We've been doing the last few months now. So far, we have like an initial 200. They're looking fantastic. If you want to join, we're opening it up.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Tap the link. It's on Slack. We'd love to see you there. Yeah, we post our thoughts on stories for the day, some other pop biz headlines, what we're thinking on the show about business and stuff. So check it out. In the meantime, though, Jack, three fantastic stories for today's pod. What do we got on the T-Boy?
Starting point is 00:00:48 For our first story, Airbnb just announced a plan to use AI to prevent Halloween parties. Ah, Airbnb, it's the anti-party police party pooper because right now, Now, Airbnb needs to show the wholesome love. For our second story, Amazon announced yesterday 14,000 layoffs. It's the biggest AI-caused job loss so far. But besties, Jack and I got your back. So we'll tell you how to prep for the great hiring freeze. And our third and final story.
Starting point is 00:01:19 For the first time ever, visits to Wikipedia are falling right now. And Elon just launched his own Wikipedia called Grogapedia to take on Wikipedia. So what happens when the disruptor gets? It's disrupted. The answer is not in Encyclopedia Britannica. No, we looked in Wikipedia. We may have found the answer in Wikipedia. But yet it is before we hit that wonderful mix of stories.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Wow, I mean, what a mix of stories. Love the mix for Cevice Wednesday, Jack. Congratulations. Yesterday was the best one yet, at least for Wall Street. Literally, October 28th. The best day of the year for stocks. Historically speaking, Nick's a history major, by the way. So, he fact-checked this.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Stocks perform best on October 28th. Could I sprinkle on a little context myself today here? Can I do that for you? Okay. Going back to 1950, the S&P 500 rises 0.54% on average October 28th. Now, if stocks rose that much every trading day of the year, what kind of numbers, Jack? They'd be up 288% at the end of each year. Why can't we just call every day 1028? I mean, it just works. Well, yesterday, the street continued. Stocks rose 0.23%. Jack, another 1028, another win. should stop asking, is the Pope Catholic? Oh yeah, instead just ask, do stocks rise on October 20th? The answer is yes. And this year, stocks didn't just rise. They rose to a record. Get this, Apple,
Starting point is 00:02:42 their stock hit a $4 trillion valuation yesterday. For the first time. And Microsoft hit a $4 trillion valuation yesterday, too. Jack Peloton stock? Actually, it fell yesterday. It went down. But it almost went up. It almost went up yesterday. It was October 28th. Long-term hold. I don't know why we're the whole like. Anyway, here's the kicker. You know what else happened on 1028? Not the best day of the year, Jack, the worst day in stock market history. It's wild. But the day that triggered a financial crisis that became the Great Depression? Yes, that started on October 28th, 1929. Okay, things just got spooky. Jack, the ghost of bull markets passed. October 28th, either the best day yet or the worst day yet. But yesterday's October 28th happened to be the best one.
Starting point is 00:03:27 yet of the best ones yet except for belton yeah this isn't financial advice pasties but let's get i three stars 15 years before this song two boys from the northeast met in the dorm they had an idea to cause a cultural storm it's the best one yet but the best is a norm jack nick that's it i don't even think they need to practice 50% that's a fat tip t boy city on your at list if you know you know because we're rare to go we can't wait no more so just start the show First, a quick word from our sponsor. Our first story, Airbnb. They're already a notorious party pooper,
Starting point is 00:04:18 but they just announced special plans to stop Halloween parties this year. It's the AI Party Police, a move that hosts are going to love, but guests are going to hate. That's the controversy. But besties, first, Jack and I can tell you is a couple Airbnb shareholders.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Airbnb stock this year has been the real estate equivalent of a four-floor walk-up in the East Village. right, Jack? Is the elevator broken? Because while the rest of the stock market is up 17% so far this year, Airbnb stock is down 2%. So this year, Airbnb relaunched experiences to drive excitement. That's fun. They also did a paid product placement in an episode of Nobody Wants This on Netflix. Yeah, that pasta making event, Airbnb probably paid for that. But the latest news from Airbnb is less fun, right, Jack? Less fun.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Airbnb does not want you to party this Halloween. Here's the press release from Airbnb. We are rolling out our anti-party system for Halloween, and this time, oh, they're using artificial intelligence. Everybody likes the cool mom, but Airbnb will have none of it this Friday. I said curfew, kids. Jack, could you sprinkle on some context here to what is going on with all of this?
Starting point is 00:05:34 You and I coined the phrase, party pooper policies going back to 2020 when it comes to Airbnb. That's when COVID parties were happening at Airbnb properties, and they were like super spreader events. So Airbnb banned parties globally, and they suspended or blocked and banned people who violated this rule. The reason, hosts don't want keg stands happening at their place. So they don't. Also, neighbors hate when Airbnb properties have parties at them. Yes, they do. And that's when damage happens to properties. It's a huge insurance liability if a party's going on.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Get this. Last Halloween, Airbnb blocked 38,000 parties in America, according to their own data. But here's the update. This Halloween, Airbnb is deploying preventative anti-rager technology. Yeah, we call this one A-R-T-R-T-RAT, anti-Rager technology. How does this break down exactly, Jack? It's artificial intelligence that will predict that this booking that's about to happen, it's definitely for a party, so we're going to block it all together. Basically, it's going to use AI to determine red flags. Like, if you book an Airbnb near where you live, why is that a red flag, Jack? Why would you do that? So you can invite everyone you know to somebody else's place to have a rager.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Or Jack, what if you book a cheaper house than you typically do from your booking history? That's also a red flag that might trigger a blockage. Or Jack, what if you book one night and one night only, and that night is Friday, October 31st? That's the biggest red flag of the mall. That is a huge, huge red flag. Besties, Airbnb is even offering hosts. noise detectors that'll notify you when a certain decibel level is hit. You get an Airbnb notification. Someone just yelled Flipcup. We thought you'd want to know.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Oh, you do want to know. Add it all up besties. And Airbnb has become the chaperone at your school booking dance. But instead of the gym teacher, it's AI. That's the chaperone. I'm not going to call this a surveillance date, Jack, but it's CIA worthy. It is CIA worthy. So, Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Airbnb? are like parents. You can have a favorite child, but you can't let them know about it. Yeties, a wild detail Jack and I remembered from five years ago when Airbnb IPOed, and we covered it on the pot. We said Airbnb was focused on its hosts over its guests. Because Airbnb mentioned the word host over 1,000 times in their IPO paperwork. That's nearly twice as many
Starting point is 00:08:00 times as they mentioned the word guest. Absolutely. But in the last couple years, guests had become frustrated with book and fees. And the owner is checkout in so some travelers are defected back to hotels. That's why Airbnb announced a pro-guest move this summer. Yes, they did. They shifted the fee that Airbnb takes entirely to the host, in most cases, instead of taking a fee from both the host and the guest. Okay, but now the hosts are upset.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So, Airbnb is making a host-friendly move here, the AI Halloween Party Police. A big, splashy PR campaign that shows hosts, Airbnb cares about your property. Besties, corporate goals that change, every year. Airbnb, Uber, Etsy, they shift their focus from one side of their platform to the other all the time. Because a platform is like a parent. It can have a favorite child. Although, full disclosure, I wouldn't say that I do. I love all my kids evil. But you can't show that you have a
Starting point is 00:08:54 favorite child. For our second story, Amazon is laying off 14,000 people. UPS just laid off 48,000 people. But the key isn't the firing. It's the lack of hiring. So we'll explain this current moment in the economy, the great freeze. Oh, Jack, how about we start this story with a little bit of corporate jargon? What do you got, man? Staying nimble and continuing to strengthen our organizations. That was the email sent by Amazon's HR team yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:29 To translate this into Tinder terminology, that's corporate jargon for, It's not you, it's me. Right, but we are breaking up. Yes. Because Amazon sent that email yesterday to 350,000 employees. And in the email, they said they're laying off 14,000 workers. But surprisingly, in that entire email, Amazon only mentioned AI once. Multiple reports say that because of AI, this is just the beginning.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Total layoffs at Amazon put 30,000 people, which is almost 10% of their white-collar workforce. We bet some of our listeners are affected. We know some of our listeners are affected, and we absolutely feel for you right now if you got that email. We also, unfortunately, could have seen this coming because we've said before that AI is like corporate Ozempic. It's like corporate financial magic. It lets companies get leaner faster. And unsurprisingly, Wall Street rewarded the news.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Amazon rose 3% so far this week. They're just a smidge off their all-time highs. But besties, here's what Jack and I find fascinating about this story. Most companies right now are avoiding layoffs. Instead, they're growing without hiring. It's a new thing called The Great Freeze. The great freeze. Let's start by sprinkling on some context. Jack, why don't you take it from here? CEOs across corporate America are bullish right now. They believe that the future is full of profit puppies.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Okay, but here's the key. They're not growing their workforce for this big, exciting future. They're using AI instead right now. And we've got their receipts. Walmart CEO said last month that they will keep their headcount flat for the next three years, despite expectations for huge growth. Jack, how about JP Morgan? They just told their managers, to not hire people. Instead, try to use AI first. And although Amazon just did lay off 14,000 people, their biggest AI workforce plans involve simply not hiring new people. Yeah, there was that bombshell report from the New York Times just last week. We didn't cover it on the pod, but Jack, what was in that report? Amazon plans to ship twice as many packages in 233 as they do today.
Starting point is 00:11:28 That sounds good. But they plan to do so with the same number of human workers that they have today. Translation, Jack. Thanks to robots. and artificial intelligence, Amazon will avoid hiring 600,000 warehouse workers. Now, Yetis, some companies are ripping off the workforce band-aid and replacing workers right now with AI agents. But most are doing it more subtly by simply not hiring and letting their workforce shrink through retirements and voluntary departures. Now, this is not a fun story. Like, what does this mean for you? It's a scary time out there for a lot of people. Here's the leading theories about how AI is affecting the workforce in our takeaway. And here's how we think you can best prepare.
Starting point is 00:12:10 So, Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies who are everyone in the economy? Here's the bull case, the bear case, and the base case of AI taking over jobs. Now, yeties, the short answer here is, we don't know how the jobs market will change because of AI. We just don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. And anyone who tells you they know is lying. They can't know. The whole country is anxiety maxing because of it. Okay. But the bull case is that everyone wins. And we see this reflected in venture capital communications, the White House. Sam Albin loves saying this all the time.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Here's Sam Altman's analogy. He says that AI is like electricity. Sure, it put lamplighters out of work, who used to go block by block with a fire to light the posts. But electricity created entirely new industries, and so will AI. Now that's the bull case, the optimistic case. The bear case, though, comes from another CEO in the AI industry. That would be Anthropics Dario Amadeh, who says that within five years, the unemployment rate in America will double because of AI. And the first jobs to go, unfortunately, entry-level white-collar jobs are going to be the ones eliminated most likely.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And look at the data, the unemployment rate for recent college grads is rising faster than the rest of the population. But there is a base case here, the expected case. And you know what? It's that we don't know. But we'll figure it out as we go along. For now, the status quo is being referred to as the great. The great freeze. People aren't quitting, but companies aren't hiring, and we'll cover more as it comes along. Now a quick word from our sponsor. For our third and final story, Wikipedia, just said that for the first time since it was created, traffic to Wikipedia is actually down. So we looked at Wikipedia's greatest accomplishment. Yes, we did. Becoming the world's best source of truth. Yeties, Wired Magazine once called Wikipedia, the last best place on.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Earth. Because there's no AI slap, there's no ads you have to X out of, and there's no addictive algorithm either. According to Wikipedia, Wikipedia is the ninth most visited site in the world. Wikipedia gets 10,000 views every second. True story.
Starting point is 00:14:24 300 different languages have their own Wikipedia. I didn't know there were 300 different languages. The English language, Wikipedia, gets 500 new Wikipedia pages every single day. By the way, the Wikipedia page about Wikipedia is the most viewed page of all time. Yeah, we discovered that by going down to
Starting point is 00:14:42 Wikipedia rabbit and researching the story for a little bit of Wikipedia roulette. But what makes Wikipedia so powerful? It's its business model. Because Wikipedia doesn't have a business model. Wikipedia is decentralized and not-for-profit. It lives off donations and it's updated by volunteer editors. Founded in 2001 by Jimmy Wales and a philosophy PhD, they started writing 21 articles of a new digital encyclopedia? And then they gave up. It was too hard. It was taking them too long. So they basically crowdsourced the whole thing. Let others edit and fact check articles. And then added the word wiki to the front name because that means quick in Hawaiian. And the closest model to Wikipedia is Bitcoin. Yes, it is, Jack. Well put.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It's internet based. No single entity controls it. It's democratized for all to use. But besties, here's the news. For the first time in Wikipedia's 24-year history, page views are actually falling. Specifically, page views by humans. Get this. Human page views to Wikipedia are down in the last few months, 8% from last year. But here's the strange part. Wikipedia noticed a surge in page views overall, but they weren't humans. Nope. They were bots. Bots, AI chat bots. They've been crawling Wikipedia to answer users questions instead of the users. Relatedly, chat Chipit just passed Wikipedia in the top 10 list of most visits websites. So first, Wikipedia disrupted Encyclopedia of Britannica, but now Wikipedia is getting
Starting point is 00:16:11 disrupted by artificial intelligence. And Jack, it's not just being upstreamed by chatbots. Wikipedia is now facing new competition as well. In the form of Grockapedia. Because yesterday, Elon Musk launched his own version of Wikipedia, powered by Grock, the AI chatbot that Elon owns and controls. It's not moderated by volunteer humans. It's moderated by his chatbot.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Now, interestingly, Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, told the New York Times he's in touch with Elon and they text about this kind of stuff frequently. But Elon thinks that Wikipedia is biased, so he cloned it. And if you look at Grockapedia, it's mostly a copy of Wikipedia. In fact, some pages are exactly the same word for word. So, Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Wikipedia? Wikipedia's great success is going from band to become. the backbone of the internet. Yet these society has fascinatingly taken a full circle reversal in how
Starting point is 00:17:06 we view Wikipedia. In the 2000s, Wikipedia was banned in schools. Teachers forbid Wikipedia from being used as a source. Jack, do you remember what our professors told us in college? You're not allowed to cite Wikipedia because, quote, anyone can edit it. We had to like go down to the footnotes and go to the primary source and hope that that website still existed. Okay, but 15 years later, there is no more widely accepted source of truth on the internet than Wikipedia. To prove to your buddy that you were right about that thing, you screenshot Wikipedia and you send it to them and say, see, Wikipedia. It's now cited in court documents, in scientific papers.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It is the key source to training artificial intelligence. It's decentralized nature and genders trust. There's no media mogul with an agenda behind it. It's just the masses. And there's strength in those large numbers. Besties, society's initial skepticism and eventual embrace of Wikipedia, it may actually foretell how we handle AI as well. Wikipedia. It had the biggest PR rebrand ever.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yeah, I did. From not credible to the internet's most credible source of truth. Ban to backbone. Jack could y'all whip up the takeaways for us for SaviJ Wednesday? Airbnb is amping up its anti-party policies this Halloween with preventative AI that happens before the booking. Because platforms are like parents. They can have a favorite child, but you just can't. show it. For our second story, Amazon is laying off 14,000 people because of AI, but most companies are simply not hiring instead. AI could someday create more jobs or result in less. Since we don't know,
Starting point is 00:18:42 though, we're in the middle of the Great Freeze. And our third and final story is Wikipedia. They're facing big challenges today from none other than AI and Elon's new Grogapedia. Wikipedia's great success, though. It's going from band to backbone of the internet. But besties, this pod's not over yet. Here's what else you need to know today. First, we get the epic serving of earnings, Google, meta, Microsoft, all reporting today. That is 15% of the S&P 500's value in just three companies. They're all announcing earnings. Also, we're getting the big Fed meeting today. Jerry Powell, expected to drop interest rates. Wall Street is nearly certain that we're going to get a 0.25% interest rate cut today. And second, Open AI just finished its big thing. They completed their for-profit
Starting point is 00:19:28 transition, no longer pretending to not care about profits. There you go. Yeah, the new corporate structure has Microsoft as the biggest shareholder of Open AI, owning 27% of the company. Now, interestingly, the old Open AI, the nonprofit one, it's going to still own 26% of the for-profit Open AI. And 26% of Open AI, that's $130 billion. This nonprofit is going to sell some of that stock over time to pursue their nonprofit mission of ensuring the AI benefits all humanity. Like committing $25 billion to health breakthroughs and AI resilience. And finally, quick heads up. This week, Europe is one hour closer to us, at least time-wise. Not possible, Jack. Here's the deal. You see, they do daylight savings just like we do. They're not like Arizona,
Starting point is 00:20:14 but they do it on a different schedule. Yeah, so Europe changed their clocks last weekend. We're going to do it this weekend, but right now we've got this funky little week where we're really close to each other. So New York to Paris is usually six hours. This week, it's only five hours. Now, time for the best fact yet. This one sent in from Jason Geiger about the story we did the other week on the 150 person limit on the number of friends you can have. Push and play. Guy from Buffalo with the best fact yet, many of us just learned that we're limited to 150 real friends.
Starting point is 00:20:47 This is what's called the Dunbart number and has a big effect on more than just your BFS. Lots. Many companies limit working groups and even entire factories to 150 or less to keep the org structure clean, communication efficient, and prevent bureaucracy. In fact, the only group successfully known to exceed their Dunbar number is a T-Boy podcast with a number of besties and yet. Josh Allen rules. The Dunbar number. Yeah, there you go. It's official. It's a real thing.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Getty's going to look fantastic out there. Jack, you look fantastic. But I am most excited. that we already chose our Halloween costume, our business-themed Halloween costume. I literally Instacarded a Spirit Halloween wig today. That's the only hint I'll give you. If you're not trying on wigs today, then I don't know what you're doing. Yeties, you look fantastic. Jack and I'll see you money.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And before we go, congratulations to New Human Grady Krufka and his parents, Madison and John, and Costa Mesa, California with the best baby yet. Future PGA superstar are here. And Marjais Miles II is also a new human listening to his first pot. ever as a dearborn Michigan baby. Dude, I went to business school with this guy. James, congratulations. We can pump for you guys. And Juan Barrows down in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. Happy birthday, Juan. And happy birthday to Jamie Bailey in Portland, Oregon. And Tommy and Sonali down in Austin, Texas, the best sales leader and seller duo with the same birthday.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Boom, Jack. If you know, you know. And happy 11th birthday to Christina Abara in Minneapolis, soda. And to anyone else celebrating something today, make it a tea boy. Celebrate the wins. This is Jack. I own stock of Instacart, and we both own stock in Airbnb, Apple, Peloton, and ETFs of the S&P 500 and some Bitcoin. Bitcoin named Ben.

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