The Besties - What's Coming in 2024?
Episode Date: January 5, 2024We're back after a brief holiday hiatus to discuss the biggest, Bestiest video game releases of the coming year. Spoiler alert: It gets real JRPG-heavy, real quick. Games discussed: Dragon's Dogma 2,... Unicorn Overlord, Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree, Baby Steps, Animal Well, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Alone in the Dark, Persona 3 Reload, Light No Fire, Hades 2, Prince of Persia, Brothers, Paper Mario: The 1000 Year Door, Skin Deep, Hollow Knight: Silksong, Visions of Mana, Death Must Die, Halls of Torment, Godzilla Minus One, Lair of the White Worm, Undertale, The Gnorp Apologue, Binding of Isaac Get the full list of games (and other stuff) discussed at www.besties.fan. Want more episodes? Join us at patreon.com/thebesties for three bonus episodes each month!
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                                         Griff, that lag between you and me, baby.
                                         
                                         That's the power of fiber.
                                         
                                         Oh, I can feel it.
                                         
                                         Instant.
                                         
                                         I can feel it.
                                         
                                         It's like you're in the room with me.
                                         
                                         I can smell you through the internet.
                                         
                                         Griffin, count back and forth just with me, okay?
                                         
    
                                         Okay, ready.
                                         
                                         Check this out.
                                         
                                         One.
                                         
                                         Two.
                                         
                                         Three.
                                         
                                         Four.
                                         
                                         Five.
                                         
                                         Six.
                                         
    
                                         Holy fucking shit, man.
                                         
                                         I was worried it wouldn't be appreciable, but it's like I'm in the room with my brother, baby.
                                         
                                         It's quantum, baby. It's like I'm in the room with my brother, baby. It's Quantum, baby.
                                         
                                         It's like I'm in the room with my own brother.
                                         
                                         Quantum of Solace?
                                         
                                         More like Quantum of Friendship.
                                         
                                         Quantum of Fraternity.
                                         
                                         Quantum of Fraternity.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, man.
                                         
                                         That would be a better name for this show.
                                         
                                         Russ and Chris, you guys got to get this fucking fiber, man.
                                         
                                         You guys got to get into fiber!
                                         
                                         I have fiber.
                                         
                                         It only took me four months
                                         
                                         and eight technician visits
                                         
                                         and me drilling through my own goddamn walls
                                         
    
                                         to get this beautiful connection.
                                         
                                         But guess what?
                                         
                                         That hole juice,
                                         
                                         that's where the light shines in.
                                         
                                         And the light is me.
                                         
                                         I'm in the room with you.
                                         
                                         Thank you, fiber.
                                         
                                         Beaming directly in.
                                         
    
                                         Do you want to say the name
                                         
                                         of your internet service provider
                                         
                                         just to give them some free help?
                                         
                                         No, no free pub.
                                         
                                         I can't even hear you,
                                         
                                         Russ. It's like I'm listening to
                                         
                                         an old-timey phonograph.
                                         
                                         You don't have a name for one string
                                         
    
                                         that's connecting two soup canes.
                                         
                                         There's more standing. It's just a really long string.
                                         
                                         You guys understand this?
                                         
                                         It's string theory. What? my name is justin mccroy and i know the best game of the week my name is griffin mccroy
                                         
                                         the best games of 2024 my name is christopher
                                         
                                         thomas plant and i'm gonna take a real good guess at it my name is ross froschek now the best games
                                         
                                         of the week welcome to the besties where we talk about the latest and greatest in home interactive
                                         
                                         entertainment it is a video game club in 2024 it will be stronger than ever okay it's a new
                                         
    
                                         announcement i meant to tell you guys this is our year for the besties.
                                         
                                         Why am I so sure?
                                         
                                         Because this year is just absolutely chock-a-block with great stuff.
                                         
                                         Like what, Chris?
                                         
                                         Give me one fucking example.
                                         
                                         What if I told you that Yakuza game is coming back, but they're not calling it Yakuza this time, and it's got Animal Crossing in it?
                                         
                                         I mean, I'm hooked, and i think you will be too listener uh right after this brief commercial message i have to before we start i love this episode this is always a very fun episode for me
                                         
                                         i have to i think it would be worth going through our what are we looking for in 2023 list because
                                         
    
                                         there's some stuff on there.
                                         
                                         I'm just going to go through it.
                                         
                                         Zelda Tears of the Kingdom.
                                         
                                         Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
                                         
                                         Sorry.
                                         
                                         Before we even do that, we have some housekeeping.
                                         
                                         Uh-oh.
                                         
                                         That relates to 2023.
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         And it's a very important thing that needs to be addressed.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Did you finish Baldur's Gate 3?
                                         
                                         I finished Baldur's Gate 3.
                                         
                                         And for people, I'm sure everyone has listened, but in case you haven't, there was some discussion about the ending of Baldur's Gate 3. I finished Baldur's Gate 3 and for people, I'm sure everyone has listened
                                         
                                         but in case you haven't, there was some
                                         
                                         discussion about the ending of Baldur's Gate 3
                                         
    
                                         maybe
                                         
                                         falling short and
                                         
                                         essentially letting Zelda edge
                                         
                                         it out and have, because of the fact
                                         
                                         that Griffin was the only one that had
                                         
                                         played the ending of Baldur's Gate 3 at the time
                                         
                                         The only real gamer in the four
                                         
                                         the quartet here.
                                         
    
                                         Just to further the table setting,
                                         
                                         I myself also went back into Baldur's Gate
                                         
                                         in an attempt to finish it.
                                         
                                         I, unlike Russ, had Christmas to contend with,
                                         
                                         so I did not have as much free time.
                                         
                                         I had eight days to contend with.
                                         
                                         He had eight days of busy.
                                         
                                         That's, I, okay, Adam said it was eight crazy nights,
                                         
    
                                         so I'm assuming you had the days to
                                         
                                         yourself that is what my my assumption would be but uh i did play another um eight hours or so
                                         
                                         um got through the if you guys know the iron throne yeah did that uh and i am i did not finish
                                         
                                         the game so take this for what it's worth i'm more convinced than ever that it is our best game of the year some of the best stuff in this game happens like late no i'm
                                         
                                         not i'm just saying we're to lock it in amber i i think but it wasn't you i was gonna make a rush
                                         
                                         to play it and i was enjoying playing it so much when i got back into it that i was like i'm not
                                         
                                         gonna rush it for the for for okay i just but Russ did, and I'm curious to hear from the only other true gamer of the quartet,
                                         
                                         like how it hit you.
                                         
    
                                         Right, Justin's opinion is worthless.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Clearly, it's just Griffin and I, and let me just say,
                                         
                                         Baldur's Gate 3 is our game of the year 2020.
                                         
                                         Okay, fine.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         The ending rules, the epilogue is great it's exactly what
                                         
    
                                         you would want from an epilogue and i was able to complete all the like tasks for my various people
                                         
                                         i know griffin here's the problem griffin was too much of a gamer and played the game when it was
                                         
                                         still a little bit broken yeah and now it's while it's slightly broken, 99% not broken. I will also say, for whatever it's worth, folks at home, if you're struggling, I lowered down that difficulty in the interest of just seeing as much stuff as I could.
                                         
                                         It's still pretty hard.
                                         
                                         Things can still go really bad, but I've really been enjoying that.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Zelda Tears of the Kingdom.
                                         
                                         Great. Starfield. Final Fantasy XVI. go really bad but uh i've really been enjoying that okay zelda tears of the kingdom great uh
                                         
    
                                         starfield final fantasy 16 that one we didn't even discuss i liked it in the goatee discussions
                                         
                                         oh not in the goatee no no there was a lot of heat behind it which one was that i'm so sorry
                                         
                                         final fantasy 16 that one with all the cut scenes oh right right right okay that was a cool game
                                         
                                         yeah that was a cool final fantasy I didn't think it was cool.
                                         
                                         Diablo 4.
                                         
                                         Star Wars Jedi Survivor.
                                         
                                         Hollow Knight Silksong.
                                         
                                         Beautiful.
                                         
    
                                         Atomic Heart.
                                         
                                         Are you sure?
                                         
                                         Judas.
                                         
                                         Really, guys?
                                         
                                         Judas.
                                         
                                         I don't know what that is.
                                         
                                         Suicide Squad.
                                         
                                         Are you sure?
                                         
    
                                         It's Ken Levine's thing, right?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Judas was the game that looked like it was Ken Levine's thing.
                                         
                                         No, Judas is Ken Levine's thing.
                                         
                                         Oh, it is?
                                         
                                         Judas is Ken Levine. thing oh it is judas is ken levine suicide squad well
                                         
                                         suicide squad final fantasy 7 rebirth nope pragmata don't know what that is stalker 2
                                         
                                         did it fire emblem engage okay armor core 6 cool red fall are you sure guys alan wake 2 the wolf
                                         
    
                                         among us 2 and play dead's new game. Wolf Among Us 2. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Did you guys know that in 2023, the year of our Lord,
                                         
                                         there was a new Telltale game, The Expanse?
                                         
                                         Did you guys know that came out last year?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Did not. I know, right?
                                         
                                         Like, it's wild.
                                         
                                         Just want to say, take everything we're about to say with a grain of salt,
                                         
    
                                         because sometimes the shit we say is bad, and sometimes it doesn't exist.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Agreed.
                                         
                                         Okay, so with that all, that was a lot of table setting but i think we're gonna start diving into what we are most excited for for the year and some of these games definitely
                                         
                                         will not come out this year and as griffin said some of them will be awful but we're gonna try
                                         
                                         any of us are bringing silk song which is a first for the last five years which is exciting i mean i'm
                                         
                                         bringing it next year so it'll be great for next year great chris do you want to start because
                                         
                                         chris has a pretty firm heart out on this episode yeah i have school this guy i have three games and
                                         
    
                                         they are all number one with the bullet somehow that's possible but the one i want to start with
                                         
                                         is dragon's dogma 2. Yes, baby.
                                         
                                         Can't fucking wait.
                                         
                                         Justin, I should have listened to you so much.
                                         
                                         I really should have listened to you a long time ago.
                                         
                                         Because this is exactly your type of hurt little puppy game that I also love.
                                         
                                         I'm in the early stages of becoming a Dragon's Dogma 1 weirdo.
                                         
                                         And this game is nothing like people had described it to me.
                                         
    
                                         That was the biggest surprise.
                                         
                                         It's wholly original.
                                         
                                         It is.
                                         
                                         People, when it came out, I think it got knocked because people were like,
                                         
                                         hey, this is like Dark Souls and Monster Hunter.
                                         
                                         And it's very little like either of them.
                                         
                                         It is a big open world action RPG where you spend a whole lot of time
                                         
                                         spamming attacks with you have an whole lot of time spamming attacks.
                                         
    
                                         You have an AI party of Dungeoneers.
                                         
                                         Pawns.
                                         
                                         Pawns is what they're called.
                                         
                                         Some of whom are made by other players,
                                         
                                         which is great.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so you make one of your own pawns,
                                         
                                         and then you can pick two pawns
                                         
                                         from this magical realm,
                                         
    
                                         aka a video game server,
                                         
                                         that is made from these other-
                                         
                                         Wow, way to take the magic out of it, Plano.
                                         
                                         I mean, you know, I just like to know how it works.
                                         
                                         I like to crack it open.
                                         
                                         My pawn is basically Irish Andre the Giant,
                                         
                                         and they have a voice option in this game
                                         
                                         that is just Andre the Giant.
                                         
    
                                         And let me tell you, going through a dungeon
                                         
                                         and having a pawn, Andre the Giant,
                                         
                                         give you advice
                                         
                                         feels really, really great.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         But yeah, it just,
                                         
                                         it's a really, really, really fun dungeon game.
                                         
                                         And it also does,
                                         
    
                                         it also does a lot of stuff
                                         
                                         that is unique to itself
                                         
                                         and other people,
                                         
                                         but it makes sense contextually,
                                         
                                         contextually,
                                         
                                         but it doesn't make sense in the
                                         
                                         wider swath of the world of video games like the way the this game does teleports is absolutely
                                         
                                         wild you have to find these weird crystals and then like use them in a certain spot and you're
                                         
    
                                         basically creating your own waypoints where you think they'd be the most useful it's wild like
                                         
                                         it's it's i don't think other games do it it's all make sense the first
                                         
                                         time you get one of those crystals you have to like walk down down down into a dungeon it takes
                                         
                                         a very long time you get the crystal it's like hey congratulations fast travel works unfortunately
                                         
                                         you do need to decide where you want to travel to so you're gonna have to climb all the way back up
                                         
                                         where you just came from um which sounds awful but it's actually quite funny the
                                         
                                         game has like a weird i guess maybe that's the dark souls of it all it does have kind of a weird
                                         
                                         um antagonistic sense of humor um but yeah the sequel looks almost like the same game
                                         
    
                                         watching the trailer just with a few bigger bosses uh and obviously much better visuals so i'm curious
                                         
                                         how much of it a sequel it is versus kind of a
                                         
                                         like hey we're rebooting this series man i don't know the first dragon's dogma rules on so many
                                         
                                         levels and sucks also which is why i love it so much is that there's a lot of stuff that is not
                                         
                                         good it's good ideas done badly which makes me very excited for the potential of a sequel and
                                         
                                         ironing out some of those kinks.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I mean, honestly, I have not even hit the bad stuff yet.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know if that's because I'm playing
                                         
                                         the updated version. I think it's kludgy
                                         
                                         a little bit. They did update it,
                                         
                                         but it is like, I know what you're saying.
                                         
                                         I don't think, I'm not in a hurry to rush back
                                         
                                         to DD1.
                                         
                                         Yes, it is
                                         
                                         messy. I will say
                                         
    
                                         I tried it because it was on sale
                                         
                                         on a Steam sale over the break.
                                         
                                         I think it was like five bucks and
                                         
                                         everyone looks like mutants.
                                         
                                         The faces are just
                                         
                                         so horrifying.
                                         
                                         It was delicious
                                         
                                         Monster Factory fodder when it first came out.
                                         
    
                                         You can become like
                                         
                                         a thin man.
                                         
                                         Like, what's the scary guy who lives in the trees?
                                         
                                         Slenderman?
                                         
                                         Thin man.
                                         
                                         Slenderman.
                                         
                                         Carl Slenderman.
                                         
                                         Thin tree man.
                                         
    
                                         That'll be good.
                                         
                                         Frush, you have one you want to share?
                                         
                                         Yeah, sure.
                                         
                                         I'm not convinced this is going to happen this year
                                         
                                         because we haven't heard anything about it
                                         
                                         since that initial kind of announcement.
                                         
                                         But Elden Ring Shadow of the Erd Tree
                                         
                                         is the DLC to Elden Ring,
                                         
    
                                         a game that I might have as my number one game of ever.
                                         
                                         And as we all know,
                                         
                                         FromSoftware does like amazing DLCs.
                                         
                                         And I think this one will be great whenever it actually drops.
                                         
                                         But yeah, they've been extremely quiet about it.
                                         
                                         I was expecting some sort of trailer or something during the Game Awards didn't happen.
                                         
                                         Elden Ring lore, like I have been watching all the YouTube insanity of people trying to track it,
                                         
                                         just the idea of knowing what Mikula has been up to, who's a character that hasn't been touched on really at all in the main game, only kind of subtextually, I'm very excited about it.
                                         
    
                                         I feel like this DLC is going to come with a demo disc for Hollow Knight Silksong.
                                         
                                         I feel like that is the extent to which...
                                         
                                         That is an epic crossover. I feel like this is not in the realm of the,
                                         
                                         this is not in the shadow realm that Silksong has been in.
                                         
                                         But it is surprising because like how many DLCs do you know of
                                         
                                         that like the game came out, what was it, two years ago now?
                                         
                                         And we still haven't seen a DLC for it?
                                         
                                         That's like crazy.
                                         
    
                                         That's very weird.
                                         
                                         Wasn't that Resident Evil 7?
                                         
                                         Did its DLC take that long?
                                         
                                         I feel like there's...
                                         
                                         No one knows.
                                         
                                         You've seen that...
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Who, who, who?
                                         
    
                                         But I'm very, very excited about it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I...
                                         
                                         Y'all, are you all as excited
                                         
                                         for Unicorn Overlord as I am?
                                         
                                         I don't know what that is.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's a new one on me.
                                         
                                         Is it Jeff Minter?
                                         
    
                                         Because it sounds like Jeff Minter.
                                         
                                         It's the new game from the developer of 13 Sentinels.
                                         
                                         Vanilla.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         What a wild...
                                         
                                         Well, you see, they have to get the unicorn powers to become the overlord.
                                         
                                         It kind of makes sense when you say it out loud.
                                         
                                         They always do something very, very different.
                                         
    
                                         This time they're doing hey fresh
                                         
                                         you're gonna actually want to play this a modern take on 90s tactics rpgs uh and you play as an
                                         
                                         exile yeah you play as an exiled prince and you are amassing a giant army across all these
                                         
                                         different kingdoms to go take on the bad dude who took your throne and and it looks like they're toning down the fan service
                                         
                                         this time and like putting all of that energy into like beautiful food anime food so i'm gonna i'm
                                         
                                         gonna get you all to try it um but i can't guarantee how it will go but i'm i personally
                                         
                                         am very excited for it i'll play it i do do have concerns. There was so much talky-talky between the gamey-gamey of 13 Sentinels
                                         
                                         that, you know, that was only...
                                         
    
                                         It was a visual novel.
                                         
                                         Right, so I guess is this also a visual novel
                                         
                                         with some tactics elements to it?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         When they make games,
                                         
                                         they are truly whatever the thing they're making is.
                                         
                                         So, like, they've made, like, a hack-and-slash game
                                         
                                         that is a hack and slash game.
                                         
    
                                         It'll have some dialogue, but they
                                         
                                         commit to the bit.
                                         
                                         And then
                                         
                                         last one I have for y'all before
                                         
                                         I head out. Like a Dragon,
                                         
                                         Infinite Wealth. I set it up
                                         
                                         up top. Are we going
                                         
                                         to play this? Because I
                                         
    
                                         think Freshick is
                                         
                                         on a firm no more.
                                         
                                         He feels like he's been tricked.
                                         
                                         This should be an episode we should have from time to time
                                         
                                         where we all pitch games to try to get the other ones to play.
                                         
                                         I mean, I've played three Yakuza games at this point.
                                         
                                         I've tried with these, and I like...
                                         
                                         Okay, Russ, tell me how close this is to your experience.
                                         
    
                                         I like them, and I stop playing. I like them them pretty good and then I don't play it anymore yeah sure
                                         
                                         man that's how it goes with all games I would say every game yeah no no no but I the stop playing it
                                         
                                         is like before you're supposed to yeah yeah before you're before it says game over and flashing white
                                         
                                         pixelated letters when you're supposed to quit. Thank you for playing. Exactly. Insert more.
                                         
                                         Yeah. My experience is
                                         
                                         I like the combat
                                         
                                         sometimes, but they spend a lot of
                                         
                                         time on the narrative, and the narrative
                                         
    
                                         is, in my opinion,
                                         
                                         I know a lot of people like it, I find
                                         
                                         it incredibly boring.
                                         
                                         This is, it should be noted,
                                         
                                         the sequel to the RPG,
                                         
                                         Yakuza Like a Dragon, which I played through all of last year and really, really loved.
                                         
                                         So, Chris, I'm with you.
                                         
                                         I did like the tone of that one.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, it seems like this one's going to be pretty much the same tone based on all of the trailers that have come out for it.
                                         
                                         The wackier, the better.
                                         
                                         If it can be consistently wacky from beginning to end or at least 90 wacky i am
                                         
                                         totally for it the problem is so frequently i find myself in a cut scene talking about like
                                         
                                         yakuza politics about how this boss fucked over this boss and he's really upset about it and that
                                         
                                         goes on for like 40 minutes so if we can avoid that i'm all i think you'll be happy because
                                         
                                         i feel like the bit of the mainline yakuza games
                                         
                                         is the hero is kind of the straight man who is then surrounded by silliness in in the new like
                                         
    
                                         a dragon games ichiban is like also goofy um yes and there's there's just more consistency in the
                                         
                                         goofiness a very quick selling point for people who might actually want to try this.
                                         
                                         Like Griffin said, it is a turn-based RPG now.
                                         
                                         The series has evolved.
                                         
                                         And you build up your own parties.
                                         
                                         Evolved back to the mid-'90s.
                                         
                                         Intentionally.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's a whole Dragon Warrior pastiche.
                                         
    
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And this one is set in Hawaii.
                                         
                                         So it's like beautiful,
                                         
                                         colorful setting. And as I mentioned
                                         
                                         at the very top, it has
                                         
                                         as always lots of very
                                         
                                         varied deep mini games
                                         
                                         throughout. And one in this
                                         
    
                                         is an Animal Crossing clone.
                                         
                                         Which looks absolutely delightful.
                                         
                                         I know
                                         
                                         that none of us will finish this game because it
                                         
                                         has been described you will it's been described as the longest yakuza game i believe by far
                                         
                                         i mean you must know me by now that's true that's true that's true you gotta know how it ends. But yeah, I'm honestly really
                                         
                                         looking forward to it. I am
                                         
                                         waiting for a view
                                         
    
                                         code to appear in my inbox.
                                         
                                         Oh, January 26th on this one.
                                         
                                         This one's real soon. Oh, I didn't realize it was so soon.
                                         
                                         It's very soon. Gotta make time.
                                         
                                         Can't fucking wait. Soon for it.
                                         
                                         Alright, well, I think Chris
                                         
                                         needs to roll, but we do have a ton of additional
                                         
                                         games, so we're gonna send him off. Farewell, Chris. It's been fun. Bye. Bye, Christopher think Chris needs to roll, but we do have a ton of additional games. So we're going to send him off.
                                         
    
                                         Farewell, Chris.
                                         
                                         It's been fun.
                                         
                                         Bye.
                                         
                                         Bye, Christopher.
                                         
                                         He'll be back soon.
                                         
                                         I'll see you later.
                                         
                                         Bye.
                                         
                                         Bye.
                                         
    
                                         And I've got a game called Baby Steps
                                         
                                         that I'm very excited about.
                                         
                                         Do we know?
                                         
                                         I know that this is the new Bennett Foddy Jam,
                                         
                                         maker of QWOP and Getting Over It.
                                         
                                         Do we know anything else about the game?
                                         
                                         I mean, they've shown gameplay,
                                         
                                         and the gameplay is the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen.
                                         
    
                                         Because it is a grown adult man in a onesie, I guess,
                                         
                                         or like a union suit, perhaps,
                                         
                                         walking across like a...
                                         
                                         It kind of looks like the death stranding like iceland landscape but using the
                                         
                                         animations of like a quop so like the awkward like walking animations of quop or um the awkward
                                         
                                         controls of uh getting up with what was that game called getting up getting up with mark echo
                                         
                                         mark echo's getting up.
                                         
                                         Wow, that's such a benefit. A Benifati's game.
                                         
    
                                         No one's going to get it.
                                         
                                         I should mention there are a few other people working on the game.
                                         
                                         It's not just Bennett.
                                         
                                         Gabe Cuzzillo and Maxi Bach are also working on it.
                                         
                                         Shit, this does look funny.
                                         
                                         And this is going to be published by Devolver.
                                         
                                         It's supposed to be coming out this year.
                                         
                                         It looks dope.
                                         
    
                                         It might be...
                                         
                                         I think at the very least it'll be very funny i don't know
                                         
                                         how much fun it will be but i think it'll be very funny to watch and probably every streaming moment
                                         
                                         yes every streamer in the world is going to stream this game so go ahead yeah used to seeing it uh
                                         
                                         seeing this this man's generous behind it is funny just because like the more realistic the graphics
                                         
                                         get the funnier it gets
                                         
                                         because you're contrasting that with the like insane physics of a benefit game
                                         
                                         yes so i think there's a lot of a lot of potential there are you watching videos
                                         
    
                                         yeah it's really good so fucking funny i don't want to play it, but I want to watch somebody else play it.
                                         
                                         I can do one of mine.
                                         
                                         Yeah, do one of yours, please.
                                         
                                         It was on the list last year, baby, and we're going to bring it on back home.
                                         
                                         Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.
                                         
                                         This one I actually think is coming out this year.
                                         
                                         Yeah, this one's out pretty soon.
                                         
                                         It's February, right?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I mean, I fucking love Final Fantasy VII. I thought Final Fantasy VII Remake, which came out now four years ago,
                                         
                                         just absolutely slapped ass.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         And yeah, 2020.
                                         
                                         How was that fucking four years ago?
                                         
                                         That's crazy.
                                         
                                         2020 was four years ago.
                                         
                                         That's, yeah, it sucks.
                                         
    
                                         Jesus.
                                         
                                         And I'm,
                                         
                                         it's gonna cover a lot of my favorite stuff
                                         
                                         from Final Fantasy VII.
                                         
                                         I was talking to friend of the show,
                                         
                                         Jason Schreier, about this.
                                         
                                         I have no recollection of anything that happens after they leave Midgar
                                         
                                         like none
                                         
    
                                         that's wild
                                         
                                         that's so wild
                                         
                                         you don't remember
                                         
                                         I know there's grass
                                         
                                         and I know they meet
                                         
                                         there's Cosmo Canyon
                                         
                                         they go to Cosmo Canyon
                                         
                                         they meet the cat boy
                                         
    
                                         I don't remember what happens to Cosmo Canyon
                                         
                                         that already happened in remake
                                         
                                         they called it Red 13 I believe is his name
                                         
                                         into remake
                                         
                                         oh the Yuffie DLC, which I didn't play?
                                         
                                         Nope, it was just in the core game.
                                         
                                         Then you got the Gold Saucer.
                                         
                                         Golden Saucer.
                                         
    
                                         You got the Forgotten Capital,
                                         
                                         which I believe is where things get a little nasty.
                                         
                                         Where does Kate Sith join you?
                                         
                                         Gold Saucer.
                                         
                                         Okay, that I do remember.
                                         
                                         I remember Kate Sith. I like Kate Sith a lot. Yeah. I think it Gold Saucer. Okay. That I do remember. I remember Kate Sith.
                                         
                                         I like Kate Sith a lot.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I think it's going to be good.
                                         
                                         What about that dog or cat?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So Red 13.
                                         
                                         We did mention him.
                                         
                                         That's a very easy name to miss.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         I am honestly a little bit worried that this thing's out,
                                         
    
                                         I think in February, February 29th.
                                         
                                         I might need to play remake because this is,
                                         
                                         I mean, it used to just be the one game.
                                         
                                         Back in my day, Final Fantasy VII was one game.
                                         
                                         And a lot of stuff happens in the first part of it
                                         
                                         that it seems-
                                         
                                         It's gotta be a three hour long YouTube video.
                                         
                                         There's gotta be.
                                         
    
                                         Gotta be. I'm excited excited i'm really excited for uh i mean i the the soundtrack for final fantasy 7 remake is incredible i'm like
                                         
                                         excited just to sort of have my hands on on that uh and uh the way that they sort of changed and
                                         
                                         upended some of the plot in in the first part of the game makes me wonder how wild they're
                                         
                                         gonna get with the you know the plot in the second part and yeah i'm just just really looking forward to it it's
                                         
                                         also just fun to play it's a fun game to play remake and i'm sure yeah it's it's funny because
                                         
                                         i knew so little about the original because it's been like 20 years since i played the original
                                         
                                         yeah so i spent most of that remake being like did this happen i have no no idea yeah so i think this will be more clear when
                                         
                                         they take diversions from the historical canon i know there's one event in particular that is
                                         
    
                                         supposed to occur within the timeline of this second game yes that will be the big talking
                                         
                                         point that is sure to be spoiled in about 30 seconds yeah sure absolutely um 30 seconds on
                                         
                                         this podcast right in 30 seconds no we'll be no we'll be nice um the uh uh yeah
                                         
                                         i hope that you know what they should do with those since they're like playing around with uh
                                         
                                         history and and that this sort of timelines and whatever they should do they should like
                                         
                                         make it into a verse you know final fantasy just like just like uh make them all in the universe
                                         
                                         do the multiverse thing
                                         
                                         everybody's doing. I thought you meant like a wrap.
                                         
    
                                         What? I thought you meant like they're gonna
                                         
                                         wrap it. No, no, no. Like they should
                                         
                                         put them all in one thing.
                                         
                                         Like there should be a dimension multiverse
                                         
                                         spanning event where they gotta
                                         
                                         go into all the different Final Fantasies.
                                         
                                         Have I got about 50 iOS
                                         
                                         games for you? Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         No, I don't want to do that.
                                         
                                         I want it to be a real one,
                                         
                                         and there's only this one Final Fantasy series.
                                         
                                         Oh, what about Dissidia?
                                         
                                         That's going to blow your fucking gourd, baby.
                                         
                                         This will definitely help with the cogency of Final Fantasy
                                         
                                         by trying to bridge them all together.
                                         
                                         Absolutely, it will.
                                         
    
                                         It's tying them all up.
                                         
                                         Should we go to a quick break?
                                         
                                         Yeah, let's take a break,
                                         
                                         and we have a bunch more games to talk about.
                                         
                                         I'm very excited.
                                         
                                         Can I talk about one? I haven't picked one yeah oh yeah please um dragons of dogma 2 was definitely on my list that's huge for me uh i want to talk about one that i'm really really hoping
                                         
                                         get my hands on this year hades 2 uh would love to see hades as easily my like time spent like the
                                         
                                         game i've spent the most time with it is the only game that i could think of i've played for over
                                         
    
                                         100 hours maybe slay the spire is like up there because i've played a fucking lot of that but
                                         
                                         hades was like such a big time sink and the way it developed over time, it was so good from the launch and just kept getting like more and more reasons to go back and play through storylines and new dialogues and everything i just i just
                                         
                                         love hades so much i love the way it sounds i love the way it looks i love the characters i love it
                                         
                                         all so i'm really really excited for for this to to come hopefully in like a some sort of beta
                                         
                                         situation that i can yeah so i think this game will we will see this game come out this year
                                         
                                         in early access or whatever format it is.
                                         
                                         I guess the question I have for you is, would you see yourself spending a lot of time with the early access version of Hades 2?
                                         
                                         Or do you think you would prefer to wait until it's out?
                                         
    
                                         I would, I think I'm just going to hop in the moment that someone lets me you know like the second that
                                         
                                         I have the ability to do so I think I will definitely do it it has been a freaking long
                                         
                                         time I mean like Hades launched early access December 2018 uh with the VGAs if you remember
                                         
                                         yeah and and what it was I think we voted at game of the year what was that 2020 i believe that's right yes it launched in 20 in fall of 2020 yeah um and then it came to
                                         
                                         consoles on uh like august of 2021 but it was on on windows fully out september 2020 so it's been
                                         
                                         like i mean three and a half years since the proper release five and a
                                         
                                         half years since it uh you know or five years since it like actually uh came out so i feel like
                                         
                                         it's you know it's a long time for a studio that size yeah you know it takes a while counting that
                                         
    
                                         money yeah yeah man i i i find now that my gaming time is so much more restricted than it was even back in 2018.
                                         
                                         He says he considers playing Final Fantasy remake again.
                                         
                                         And beating Yakuza like a hero.
                                         
                                         Now that my gaming time is limited, I have to be very judicious.
                                         
                                         He has to spend time with Henry and oh, what's the other one?
                                         
                                         Dang it. he has to spend time with uh henry and oh what's the other one ah dang it i will say that
                                         
                                         i have space in my gaming diet for a game like this and you're gonna fight away i have not had
                                         
                                         one well i'm saying i like to have like a a sort of roguelike that doesn't require a lot of
                                         
    
                                         uh reading and you know story memorization and shit uh because i do play games like yakuza
                                         
                                         infinite wealth or whatever the fuck uh i like to have one that i can just kind of vibe with
                                         
                                         uh isaac is this for me most of the time so i'm i'm looking forward to having a new one of those
                                         
                                         i was i was playing uh this will come up later in honorable mentions but i was playing uh
                                         
                                         what is this game called it It's called Death Must Die,
                                         
                                         which I know Justin had mentioned a while back.
                                         
                                         And it kind of made me wonder,
                                         
                                         is there like a sub mode of Hades 2
                                         
    
                                         where they try to do the like vampire survivors thing?
                                         
                                         It would kind of be fucking sick.
                                         
                                         It would be pretty tight.
                                         
                                         I don't know if that is the direction they would.
                                         
                                         It is a very,
                                         
                                         I don't think it is necessarily,
                                         
                                         but I don't know. that is the direction they would it is a very i don't think it is necessarily but i don't know i there is an element to which because of hades being like
                                         
                                         very consistent runs where you know each run could take a good chunk of time 20 to 40 minutes long
                                         
    
                                         there's something that kind of is like i wouldn't mind having like a shorter more bite-sized version
                                         
                                         of that while still maintaining the mechanics at work.
                                         
                                         But you know,
                                         
                                         what is it?
                                         
                                         What is death must die?
                                         
                                         I've never heard of that.
                                         
                                         Oh,
                                         
                                         well we can cover it in honorable mentions.
                                         
    
                                         It's a game that's already out.
                                         
                                         So it already counts.
                                         
                                         Sounds good.
                                         
                                         I just,
                                         
                                         you said I recommended it.
                                         
                                         I've never,
                                         
                                         I thought you did,
                                         
                                         but maybe,
                                         
    
                                         maybe I'm mistaken.
                                         
                                         Hey,
                                         
                                         also coming out very soon.
                                         
                                         Uh,
                                         
                                         man,
                                         
                                         I got to tell you the first two months of this year are
                                         
                                         very jrpg heavy for yours truly so that's gonna be that's gonna be tough uh persona 3 reload
                                         
                                         uh a a remake in the style of the more modern persona games uh of persona 3 which was sort of
                                         
    
                                         the first of the persona games that really blew up i would say on was sort of the first of the Persona games that really blew up, I would say,
                                         
                                         on a sort of more mainstream level. It helped that they made a portable version, I believe,
                                         
                                         for the PSP. I believe this is before Vita. And I think it lacks some of the charm. Certainly,
                                         
                                         it lacks some of the charm of 4 and 5. But, you, but maybe they'll have a chance to kind of punch that up.
                                         
                                         But it's just like Persona 3,
                                         
                                         but with a lot of sort of gameplay contrivances
                                         
                                         and evolutions that 5 added,
                                         
                                         and I'm really, really looking forward to it
                                         
    
                                         because it's been forever since I've played that game.
                                         
                                         And famously, this is the game
                                         
                                         where they shoot themselves in the head, correct?
                                         
                                         Yes, that is how they get the monsters to come out of their bodies okay so do you envision them
                                         
                                         changing that in any way no fucking way no way i mean it's it is it is about i mean it's the thing
                                         
                                         you knew about the game so that'd be wild for them to uh to change that now um yeah uh but yeah i i man i really am hankering for some persona
                                         
                                         uh especially after playing whatever it was persona just not strikers what was the strategy
                                         
                                         one that we just did oh persona tactica yeah clearly it didn't leave the sort of indelible
                                         
    
                                         impression in my mind that i was uh that i crave from the Persona series, but I am optimistic that
                                         
                                         Persona 3 Reload
                                         
                                         will do that. I believe it's out like
                                         
                                         early February? February 2nd.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's pretty soon.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so I'll have about a week to finish
                                         
                                         Infinite Wealth,
                                         
                                         and then about three weeks to finish Persona 3.
                                         
    
                                         No problem.
                                         
                                         After Final Fantasy.
                                         
                                         No problem. He's a cake. No problem at all.
                                         
                                         Easy.
                                         
                                         I put one on here that's just for fun i don't even know about this game that's just for what alone in the dark i mean i know about the series but there's a new alone in the dark game coming
                                         
                                         okay buddy this one is like my called shot shot the dark because if it comes out and is good i'm
                                         
                                         gonna look like a freaking genius alone in the dark new survival horror you know they're rebooting it we got uh jody comare
                                         
                                         holy shit and david harbour as emily hartwood and uh edward carnby heading to the manor
                                         
    
                                         to to investigate the disappearance of emily's uncle it's third person starring david harbour and jody
                                         
                                         come here i don't need anything else that is all i fucking need man maybe who knows the is uh you
                                         
                                         know the creator of the series frederick ranal according to uh wikipedia gave his blessing
                                         
                                         and said it did a great job of preserving the core feeling from the original game so who knows i don't know
                                         
                                         they made magica 2 and they started developing this five years ago they've made some titan
                                         
                                         quest dlc and magica 2 people like magica magica is cool and it came out uh in 2015 so it's been
                                         
                                         about nine years since these cats have shipped something.
                                         
                                         I mean, what's cool is, like, I have no baggage whatsoever.
                                         
    
                                         Like, I know it's scary, but, like, that's it in terms of me knowing anything about the backstory of this franchise or anything.
                                         
                                         The last one was 2015, Alone in the Dark Illumination.
                                         
                                         And hated.
                                         
                                         Nobody liked it.
                                         
                                         I am actually looking at steam right
                                         
                                         now there is alone in the dark prologue which came out last may and i did not know about which
                                         
                                         is i guess like from the same developer yep uh pieces pieces interact pisces i think maybe pieces
                                         
                                         pisces pisces pretty sure it's pieces, but yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Which to me, just going on the title,
                                         
                                         I think it's probably a prologue.
                                         
                                         Guys, is that the same word
                                         
                                         and we're just now discovering it?
                                         
                                         Is this like a big deal
                                         
                                         that we need to tell everybody about
                                         
                                         that these are the same word?
                                         
                                         No, Pisces is spelled completely differently.
                                         
    
                                         Pisces has an S in it.
                                         
                                         I'm pretty sure it's Pisces.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's fucking pieces.
                                         
                                         No, that looks like pieces.
                                         
                                         It looks like pieces interactive.
                                         
                                         We can all agree that Pisces would be a better day, right?
                                         
                                         Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and do my last one here and pisces then this is my cold shot because i
                                         
                                         think it is pretty unlikely that this game is not coming out this year okay no way listen to russ
                                         
    
                                         zero chance uh i'm talking about light no fire the new jam from hello games uh oh yeah yeah sure
                                         
                                         you don't think you don't think it's at all possible that this is i will say hello games Light No Fire, the new jam from Hello Games. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure.
                                         
                                         You don't think it's at all possible?
                                         
                                         I will say, Hello Games themselves,
                                         
                                         who's the guy?
                                         
                                         Who's the Hello Games guy?
                                         
                                         You know, the guy from...
                                         
                                         Sean...
                                         
    
                                         Sean Murray. Sean Murray.
                                         
                                         Said that they wanted to keep a tighter
                                         
                                         sort of marketing cycle.
                                         
                                         Hey, Griff.
                                         
                                         No kidding!
                                         
                                         Like, I would bet
                                         
                                         you probably don't want to burn your life to the
                                         
                                         fucking ground again, Sean.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, uh, I
                                         
                                         am... Sean, your whole studio
                                         
                                         fluid, and it was flooded, and it was the second
                                         
                                         worst thing that happened to you all that year.
                                         
                                         Like, you absolutely do not want to
                                         
                                         have the same marketing cycle. I think, I think we'll get this one in early access i think it's going to be a fun uh
                                         
                                         open world you know survival game like in in the style of uh no man's sky the trailer looks dope
                                         
                                         the idea of like a fantasy uh version of kind of no man's sky set on a fantasy earth uh sounds tight as hell and i
                                         
    
                                         it's as big as earth as big as earth okay well maybe the marketing cycle has already begun on
                                         
                                         this one which is unfortunate but uh i i i really love this genre and it's been a while uh since i
                                         
                                         have gotten really into it i really enjoyed playing grounded with you guys was that
                                         
                                         last year or the year before i think it was the year before i love the sort of survival base
                                         
                                         building uh thing that v uh the vampire game where you built your own castle that was that was cool
                                         
                                         too and no man's sky which i think we all we all dipped into how ha Halo is also fun. Yeah, I am craving, actively craving,
                                         
                                         like right now, a game in that genre.
                                         
                                         And I think Light No Fire is going to come out
                                         
    
                                         in the next two or three months.
                                         
                                         Scratch that itch for me, baby.
                                         
                                         It's going to be on the demo disc
                                         
                                         with Hollow Knight Silksong, and I can't wait.
                                         
                                         It's interesting that you think,
                                         
                                         I guess No Man's Sky has those survival mechanics,
                                         
                                         but I don't think of No man's sky as that anymore as much as a you have this enormous whatever randomly generated galaxy but more more interesting is that you have this big toolkit of options where you can base build or buy ships or trade or blah blah blah yeah and that I think is more of a draw for me because I've seen how No Man's Sky has evolved.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
    
                                         And specifically, like, the on-the-ground stuff
                                         
                                         has evolved in really cool ways
                                         
                                         that I think if they focused an entire game
                                         
                                         about the on-the-ground stuff
                                         
                                         and how you can, like, really build intricate stuff
                                         
                                         with multiplayer, like, kind of leading the charge,
                                         
                                         I think it has the potential to be one of the best games
                                         
                                         of the year it comes out.
                                         
    
                                         The survival mechanics of No Man's Sky are not.
                                         
                                         I mean, I turn them off.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I turn them off too.
                                         
                                         So that's not my jam.
                                         
                                         But I like base building in basically any game
                                         
                                         that allows me to do it.
                                         
                                         And that's, I mean, I guess I just play most games
                                         
                                         in this genre as Animal Crossing in that regard.
                                         
    
                                         So, but yeah, Light No Fire, I think it looks really great.
                                         
                                         And I love fantasy shit.
                                         
                                         Is it in the galaxy?
                                         
                                         Like, is it in the universe?
                                         
                                         Well, No Man's Sky incorporates the whole of existence.
                                         
                                         So, yeah.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's got it.
                                         
                                         Well, you know what I mean.
                                         
    
                                         The branding.
                                         
                                         The icon is, like, similar, yeah?
                                         
                                         Yeah, the branding is similar.
                                         
                                         People have made speculations.
                                         
                                         If I had to guess based on the icon,
                                         
                                         it kind of looks like a prequel of No Man's Sky.
                                         
                                         If you could make any sense of the narrative of No Man's Sky, good luck.
                                         
                                         It's the easiest thing in the world to do to just be like,
                                         
    
                                         yep, it's in space too.
                                         
                                         Like, yep, it's there in space.
                                         
                                         It's before they figured out spaceships.
                                         
                                         Technically, we're all in space all the time. What about this last one here that's on the list we haven't touched on
                                         
                                         yeah this game is called animal well um it's from a developer called shared memory uh billy basso
                                         
                                         is the kind of creative uh lead on it and the game is a 2d uh I think, I played an early version of it like a year or two ago.
                                         
                                         And it felt like a 2D take on like the Tunic idea of like, kind of Metroidvania-y, but it's filled and filled with puzzles.
                                         
                                         So there's like, you're constantly stumbling upon things that are like, very kind of opaque opaque tricky to figure out puzzles and all of this is presented
                                         
    
                                         in like really really gorgeous pixel art great soundtrack and just like a very cool vibe to it
                                         
                                         this probably got the most attention because it's the first game that uh video game donkey
                                         
                                         will be publishing as part of his uh publishing arm that he launched. Big Mode.
                                         
                                         Big Mode, which is the name of the publisher.
                                         
                                         But what I played
                                         
                                         was really dope. I actually stopped
                                         
                                         playing intentionally just because I thought
                                         
                                         that I wanted to play the final
                                         
    
                                         version of it. But I think if you're into
                                         
                                         those sorts of games that are
                                         
                                         very puzzle-centric
                                         
                                         2D platformers, this
                                         
                                         should scratch that. I mean, it's got some metroidvania
                                         
                                         heat to it it looks like yeah it does you'll find like upgrades that'll allow you to explore more of
                                         
                                         the map and then you'll access more puzzles and stuff like that it's not a sakaban game like it's
                                         
                                         it is more of an adventure exploration game but yeah the It's fucking rad also. It's like CRT scanline neon.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, like neon kind of vibe to it.
                                         
                                         It looks really, really cool.
                                         
                                         Cool.
                                         
                                         Well, that's all the games.
                                         
                                         I think that's it.
                                         
                                         This list, we should say, I feel like feels super,
                                         
                                         even more so than past years, like super light.
                                         
                                         It feels to me like last year we got a glut of absolute heavy hitters i
                                         
    
                                         mean we knew that tears of the kingdom was coming uh on on the list last time notably balder's gate
                                         
                                         three was not on any of our lists and there you go right i think that was because it was
                                         
                                         in early access so we like but you know you're right like we didn't really look to the final
                                         
                                         version as being this like like, ultimate moment,
                                         
                                         which it ended up being.
                                         
                                         I do think there's a significant thing
                                         
                                         that we're missing on this list,
                                         
                                         and that is, and I'm certainly not promising
                                         
    
                                         that this is going to happen,
                                         
                                         but it's looking decently likely.
                                         
                                         Look, it's looking decently likely
                                         
                                         that if the Switch 2 launches,
                                         
                                         obviously there will be games
                                         
                                         that launch alongside the Switch 2, my guess being Metroid Prime 4 and the next follow-up to Super Mario Odyssey, which would be a fucking baller lineup for a launch of a console.
                                         
                                         And so if that happens, you know, yeah, we would add a few more.
                                         
                                         But I think right now there's just like a lot of opacity around release dates for the for
                                         
    
                                         the coming year yeah a couple quick quick ones that i are not like huge on my list but i did
                                         
                                         want to like mention real quick um prince of persia oh yeah oh yeah that looks good i also
                                         
                                         wanted to mention because i didn't know it existed until yesterday looking at this list and february
                                         
                                         28th they're doing a brothers remake uh brothers a Of Two Sons if you haven't played that game
                                         
                                         don't
                                         
                                         look into it
                                         
                                         don't read anything about it
                                         
                                         just on February 28th go play it
                                         
    
                                         because it is a masterpiece
                                         
                                         and I have not liked that cat's other games
                                         
                                         after that one
                                         
                                         I did not like
                                         
                                         it's the same developer behind
                                         
                                         It Takes Two
                                         
                                         and what's the same developer behind um it takes two and oh what's that what's
                                         
                                         the name of it um where they escape out yeah they say no way out no it's called they escaped from
                                         
    
                                         jail um sorry it's not no way out it's they escaped from jail uh but brothers brothers a
                                         
                                         tale of two sons the remake february 28th go play. You know what I think the key was for Brothers? Why it's so regarded?
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         No talking.
                                         
                                         True.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I mean, I like that a lot.
                                         
                                         I'm also,
                                         
                                         I am looking forward to Paper Mario,
                                         
    
                                         Thousand Year Door remake coming out.
                                         
                                         I never played that game.
                                         
                                         Do you all have a,
                                         
                                         like, called,
                                         
                                         like, long shot,
                                         
                                         like, that you don't think
                                         
                                         would be out this year,
                                         
                                         but you've been looking forward to
                                         
    
                                         for a long time?
                                         
                                         Hollow Knight, Silk.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's's an obvious one.
                                         
                                         Mine is perennially Skin Deep.
                                         
                                         I feel like Blendo Games will release another game at some point.
                                         
                                         It has been like six years since the last Blendo Games game,
                                         
                                         and it's been eight years since Quadrilateral Cowboy,
                                         
                                         which Skin Deep is sort of the follow-up to.
                                         
    
                                         But I mean, I know
                                         
                                         that that's not a...
                                         
                                         I don't know. They've been really quiet. It probably seems
                                         
                                         like the size of developer where they probably have day jobs
                                         
                                         and stuff like that. But I would
                                         
                                         love a new Blendo games game.
                                         
                                         Cool.
                                         
                                         Oh, Visions of Mana also. There's a new
                                         
    
                                         fucking Secret of Mana game that got announced at the
                                         
                                         Game Awards. Looking forward to that.
                                         
                                         I'm increasingly... Do you guys find this increasingly challenging, this process?
                                         
                                         I feel like it used to be a lot more concrete, I feel like, going into,
                                         
                                         not only when games would ship, but what games,
                                         
                                         I feel like I get surprised a lot more often.
                                         
                                         Which is great.
                                         
                                         For sure, I'm not complaining.
                                         
    
                                         Things have certainly democratized, I would say,
                                         
                                         now that E3 is officially dead and gone.
                                         
                                         There used to be, I would say, four to five pretty big checkpoints throughout the year
                                         
                                         where just people would announce their shit.
                                         
                                         And E3 was the big one.
                                         
                                         Tokyo Game Show, Gamescom, maybe PAX to a lesser extent.
                                         
                                         The Game Awards are certainly that now
                                         
                                         and you didn't really get a lot of big sort of
                                         
    
                                         waves of announcements between those
                                         
                                         now that like a lot of those aren't
                                         
                                         the big deal anymore and publishers and developers are doing
                                         
                                         their own events like you just don't have
                                         
                                         the kind of docket at the beginning of the year that you used
                                         
                                         to yeah i also think people realize that like there's value and not necessarily talking about
                                         
                                         your game until like three months before it's out sure yeah cool well uh y'all been getting
                                         
                                         into anything else that's worth chatting about well i wanted to mention death must die which i
                                         
    
                                         indicated earlier i played just a little bit of it.
                                         
                                         It's still in early access.
                                         
                                         It is a vampire survivors-like.
                                         
                                         The reason I mention it in the context of Hades 2 is that it has very Hades inspirations tied to it.
                                         
                                         As you're playing and you level up, instead of just getting, like, whatever, random sub-weapons like you do in Vampire Survivors,
                                         
                                         of just getting like whatever random sub weapons like you do in vampire survivors you're getting boons from gods and choosing between the boons and the gods are you know all sexy and they have
                                         
                                         like advice and thoughts about the other gods it's like very hades um but aesthetically it kind of
                                         
                                         pulls from the diablo look and feel and uh it's just really cool turns you on because you you
                                         
    
                                         talked about sexy it was it's like it's kind of like turns you on because you you talked about sexy it was
                                         
                                         it's like it's kind of like an like an erotic kind of thing is it erotic for you is it an erotic kind
                                         
                                         of game you just you know a lot i find a lot of things erotic i find you guys erotic at times
                                         
                                         huh that's cool uh it's a cool game i it's just been cool to see how this genre has evolved in
                                         
                                         different ways uh from where it started and and how people are kind of
                                         
                                         making it better and better with each iteration um fucking let me just say halls of torment is on
                                         
                                         sale at least it was last i checked for like four dollars and i've spent i think it's the best one
                                         
                                         of those from last year fair i think it is too yeah i don't think there's another one that's
                                         
    
                                         close like halls of torment's great and it keeps getting better. Yeah.
                                         
                                         I played through all of the Gnorp epilogue.
                                         
                                         Oh, man, that's what I was gonna talk about, too.
                                         
                                         Go ahead.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         I mean, we can both talk about it.
                                         
                                         It's great.
                                         
                                         It is a great little game. I am surprised by...
                                         
    
                                         I feel like I beat it real fast,
                                         
                                         and that is not usually...
                                         
                                         Maybe I'm so used to, like,
                                         
                                         iOS incremental games games which are
                                         
                                         designed to keep you playing forever and ever and ever the ignore apolog has a ending and it's uh
                                         
                                         not impossible to get to i think i got i think i completed my run in like seven hours which is
                                         
                                         which is i feel like for a game like this pretty pretty fast um but yeah that was a that was a great game did you play that on
                                         
                                         steam deck yeah yeah uh yeah it works really well on steam deck i was surprised uh because it is
                                         
    
                                         you know very much cursor control but there's like shortcuts to hop between all of your different
                                         
                                         like upgradable buildings and stuff like that so it is it is very achievable on Steam Deck. I've also been playing Undertale
                                         
                                         with Henry. He really
                                         
                                         wanted a laptop for Christmas
                                         
                                         so he could be a sweaty Fortnite gamer
                                         
                                         in his own words.
                                         
                                         He does not play Fortnite, but he has
                                         
                                         certainly been starting to.
                                         
    
                                         But he has gotten really into Undertale
                                         
                                         and the
                                         
                                         humor of that game really hits with
                                         
                                         him and the characters in that game he is
                                         
                                         like really very into sands and papyrus and you know the whole the whole crew there um and i also
                                         
                                         dipped into binding of isaac to i had like two characters left to unlock i've done that now i
                                         
                                         don't really know what to do next but that's it you got to get all the completion marks for all the characters no I won't be doing that but I do uh like I said like I I
                                         
                                         like just having a sort of idle not idle it's very you know you have to focus on it quite quite
                                         
    
                                         intensely but uh you know a game that you can just pick up and play for 15 minutes which is like
                                         
                                         have you tried halls of torment griff uh, I did. I didn't really get
                                         
                                         super duper into it, but
                                         
                                         the way you all talk about it makes me feel like
                                         
                                         I should give it another swing.
                                         
                                         I've been asked by Plant to say this.
                                         
                                         I watched Lair of the White Worm,
                                         
                                         the Dracula adaptation that replaces
                                         
    
                                         bats with snakes. Hugh Grant
                                         
                                         and Peter Capaldi pair up to hunt a literal
                                         
                                         succubus. It's just as
                                         
                                         good as that sounds.
                                         
                                         Was that your Chris?
                                         
                                         It sounded like you half did a plant.
                                         
                                         It's very mild.
                                         
                                         I didn't want to get into parody,
                                         
    
                                         but it was like a tasteful, you know, it was an homage.
                                         
                                         So that sounds good.
                                         
                                         I'll probably go watch that.
                                         
                                         That's an old movie, right?
                                         
                                         Like a super old movie?
                                         
                                         It's definitely a sad movie or like a bleak movie
                                         
                                         because Plant brought it, but I don't know how old it is.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it came out in 1988. No didn't are you kidding yeah it's an old movie god plant killing me man just
                                         
    
                                         these old dusty old ratchet movies i can't even get it can't even watch it it's on vhs hey listen
                                         
                                         you grant and yeah they must have been so young back then. I want to see what young Peter Capaldi looks like.
                                         
                                         Probably, it's right.
                                         
                                         It sounds like a sexy movie, honestly.
                                         
                                         You got young Hugh and young Pete
                                         
                                         teaming up against Succubi.
                                         
                                         Heck yeah.
                                         
                                         I went and saw Godzilla Minus One in the theater,
                                         
    
                                         which is a new movie-ish.
                                         
                                         Like, it was like going out of my theater,
                                         
                                         but maybe you got another shot or two this week
                                         
                                         to go see it.
                                         
                                         And it is, I've never watched like a Japanese Godzilla movie before.
                                         
                                         I have no connection to the source material.
                                         
                                         I watched the frigging – the two US ones that I thought were pretty good.
                                         
                                         Not the Matthew Prater one you're talking about.
                                         
    
                                         No, no, no. That one was quite bad.
                                         
                                         The new ones.
                                         
                                         Godzilla Minus one kicks ass.
                                         
                                         If you guys haven't seen it, here's the pitch, okay?
                                         
                                         Godzilla's a real piece of shit.
                                         
                                         Like he's a real asshole.
                                         
                                         And he attacks all these people because he's a real dingus.
                                         
                                         And it's post-World War II Japan.
                                         
    
                                         And Godzilla has made an attack
                                         
                                         on this small fishing village
                                         
                                         and he's going to do it again.
                                         
                                         And they say that the Japanese government
                                         
                                         is too afraid of inflaming tensions
                                         
                                         between the US and the Soviet Union.
                                         
                                         So they're not going to launch their military.
                                         
                                         So basically this village of people
                                         
    
                                         has to kill Godzilla. They decide people has to like kill Godzilla.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         They decide they're going to kill Godzilla.
                                         
                                         So many questions.
                                         
                                         First of all, how do they know what Godzilla is going to do?
                                         
                                         Like how do they know he's going to do it again?
                                         
                                         Because he's a – first of all, he's got patterns.
                                         
                                         He's got –
                                         
    
                                         Does he?
                                         
                                         They have a science answer in there.
                                         
                                         Do they have a shared Google calendar?
                                         
                                         No, but he has a pattern.
                                         
                                         He's Godzilla.
                                         
                                         And they draw him in.
                                         
                                         They draw him in with some fake Godzilla noises.
                                         
                                         So like a Jaws situation.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, you're making me give away all these great plot details.
                                         
                                         Anything else you want to challenge me on?
                                         
                                         How much it kicks ass to watch Godzilla.
                                         
                                         That, man, wow.
                                         
                                         It sounds great.
                                         
                                         I did want to see it.
                                         
                                         I know that this is a movie, right?
                                         
                                         And you know movies end a certain way, right?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like Godzilla's probably going to not movie, right? And you know movies in a certain way, right? Yeah. Like, Godzilla's probably gonna not win, right?
                                         
                                         Maybe.
                                         
                                         I was going into this movie thinking,
                                         
                                         how the fuck are these guys gonna kill Godzilla?
                                         
                                         And it is awesome.
                                         
                                         To say that, here's my review.
                                         
                                         At the end of the movie,
                                         
    
                                         I stood up and turned to the people behind me
                                         
                                         and said, please don't tell anyone
                                         
                                         that I cried during Godzilla
                                         
                                         and walked out of the theater.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         That was how,
                                         
                                         that was,
                                         
                                         it was great.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah,
                                         
                                         that sounds dope.
                                         
                                         Well.
                                         
                                         See you in a theater if you can.
                                         
                                         If you can.
                                         
                                         If you can.
                                         
                                         I think we did it.
                                         
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                                         We'll probably have some free game codes coming sometime this year uh and
                                         
                                         next week we have two games to talk about yeah we're gonna do avatar mists of pan frontiers of
                                         
                                         pandora not mists is it mists frontiers of pandora avatar frontiers of pandora and Lil Gator Game, the 2023 erstwhile game of the year.
                                         
                                         I think it came out in 2022.
                                         
                                         No kidding, really?
                                         
                                         Oh, it's worse.
                                         
    
                                         December 2022.
                                         
                                         So it wasn't eligible that year.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But we probably should have voted it last year and just missed it.
                                         
                                         Sorry.
                                         
                                         So we're going to talk about two great games and
                                         
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