The Bible in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz) - Day 199: Times for War (2025)
Episode Date: July 18, 2025Fr. Mike explains why Joel would say there are certain times for war, even within God's plan. In a broken world, we are sometimes called to fight the brokenness around us, but we must believe that God... is allowing this not because he likes war, but because something better will come in its place. Today's readings are Isaiah 16-17, Joel 3, and Proverbs 10:21-24. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/bibleinayear. Please note: The Bible contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.
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Hi, my name is Father Mike Schmitz and you're listening to the Bible in a Year podcast,
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It is day 199, you guys, one more day and it's day 200.
How amazing is that? We're reading from Isaiah chapter 16 and 17. We're reading
the conclusion of the book of the prophet Joel chapter 3. We're also reading
Proverbs chapter 10 verses 21 through 24. The Bible translation that I'm reading
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We are reading Isaiah chapter 16 and 17,
Joel chapter three, Proverbs chapter 10, verses 21 through 24.
The book of the prophet Isaiah, chapter 16.
They have sent lambs to the ruler of the land,
from Sila by the way of the desert,
to the mount of the daughter of Zion.
Like fluttering birds, like scattered nestlings,
so are the daughters of Moab at the fords of the Arnon.
Give counsel, grant justice, make your shade like night at the height of noon,
hide the outcasts, betray not the fugitive, let the outcasts of Moab sojourn among you.
Be a refuge to them from the destroyer.
When the oppressor is no more and destruction has ceased and he who tramples underfoot has vanished from the land,
And he who tramples underfoot has vanished from the land then a throne will be established in steadfast
Love and on it will sit in faithfulness in the tent of David one who judges and seeks justice and is swift to do righteousness
We have heard of the pride of Moab how proud he was of his arrogance his pride and his insolence his boasts are false
Therefore let Moab whaleail, let every one wail for Moab. Mourn utterly stricken for the raisin cakes of Kier Hareseth.
For the fields of Heshban languish, and the vine of Sibma, the lords of the nations have
struck down its branches which reached to Jezer and strayed to the desert.
Its shoots spread abroad and passed over the sea.
Therefore, I weep with the weeping of Jezer.
For the vine of Sibma, I drench you with my tears, O Heshban and Eliele.
For upon your fruit and your harvest the battle-shout has fallen, and joy and gladness are taken
away from the fruitful field and in the vineyards
No songs are sung. No shouts are raised. No treader treads out wine in the presses. The vintage shout is hushed
Therefore my soul moans like a liar from Moab and my heart for Kir-Hirez
And when Moab presents himself when he wearies himself upon the high place, when he comes to his sanctuary to pray, he will not prevail.
This is the word which the Lord spoke concerning Moab in the past.
But now, the Lord says, in three years, like the years of a hireling, the glory of Moab will be brought into contempt,
in spite of all his great multitude, and those who survive will be very few and feeble. Chapter 17 An Oracle Concerning Damascus
An Oracle Concerning Damascus. Behold, Damascus will cease to be a city, and
will become a heap of ruins. Her cities will be deserted forever. They will be
for flocks, which will lie down down and none will make them afraid.
The fortress will disappear from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus,
and the remnant of Syria will be like the glory of the children of Israel, says the Lord of hosts.
And in that day the glory of Jacob will be brought low, and the fat of his flesh will grow lean.
And it shall be as when the reaper gathers standing grain, and his arm harvests the ears, and as when one gleans
the ears of grain in the valley of Raphaim.
Gleanings will be left in it, as when an olive tree is beaten,
two or three berries in the top of the highest bough,
four or five on the branches of a fruit tree,
says the Lord God of Israel.
In that day, men will regard their maker, and their eyes will look to the Lord God of Israel. In that day men will regard their maker and
their eyes will look to the Holy One of Israel. They will not have regard for the
altars, the work of their hands, and they will not look to what their own fingers
have made, either the Asharim or the altars of incense. In that day their
strong cities will be like the deserted places of the Hivites and the Amorites,
which they deserted because of the children of Israel.
And there will be desolation.
For you have forgotten the God of your salvation, and have not remembered the rock of your refuge.
Therefore, though you plant pleasant plants and set out slips of an alien god, though
you make them grow on the day that you plant them and make them blossom in the morning
that you sow, yet the harvest will flee away in a day of grief and incurable pain.
Ah, the thundering of many peoples!
They thunder like the thundering of the sea.
Ah, the roar of nations!
They roar like the roaring of mighty waters!
The nations roar like the roaring of many waters, but he will rebuke them, and they will flee far
away, Chaste like chaff on the mountains before the
wind, And whirling dust before the storm.
At evening time, behold, terror!
Before morning they are no more.
This is the portion of those who dispoil us, And the lot of those who plunder us.
The Book of Joel, chapter 3. down to the valley of Jehoshaphat, and I will enter into judgment with them there on account of my people and my heritage Israel, because they have scattered them among the nations and have divided up my land and have cast lots for my people and have given a boy for
a harlot and have sold a girl for wine and have drunk it.
What are you to me, O Tyre and Sidon, in all the regions of Philistia?
Are you paying me back for something?
If you are paying me back, I will repay your deed upon your own head swiftly and speedily,
for you have taken my silver and my gold and have carried my rich treasures into your temples.
You have sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, removing them far from their
own border.
But now I will stir them up from the place to which you have sold them and I will repay your deed upon your own head. I will sell your sons
and your daughters into the hand of the sons of Judah and they will sell them to
the Sibians, to a nation far off, for the Lord has spoken. Proclaim this among the
nations, prepare war. Stir up the mighty men. Let all the men of war draw near. Let them come up. Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears up to the valley of Jehoshaphat. For there I will sit to judge all the nations round about.
Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe.
Go in, tread, for the winepress is full.
The vats overflow, for their wickedness is great.
Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision.
For the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.
The sun and moon are darkenedened and the stars withdraw their shining and the
Lord roars from Zion and utters his voice from Jerusalem and the heavens and
the earth shake but the Lord is a refuge to his people a stronghold to the people
of Israel so you shall know that I am the Lord your God,
who dwell in Zion my holy mountain,
and Jerusalem shall be holy,
and strangers shall never again pass through it.
And in that day the mountains shall drip sweet wine,
and the hills shall flow with milk,
and all the stream beds of Judah shall flow with water,
and the fountain shall come forth from the house of the Lord and water the
valley of Shittim. Egypt shall become a desolation and Edom a desolate
wilderness for the violence done to the people of Judah because they have shed
innocent blood in their land. But Judah shall be inhabited forever and Jerusalem
to all generations. I will avenge their blood, and I will not clear the guilty, for the Lord dwells in Zion.
The Book of Proverbs Chapter 10, Verses 21-24.
The lips of the righteous feed many, but fools die for lack of sense.
The blessing of the Lord makes rich, and He adds no sorrow with it.
It is like sport to a fool to do wrong, but wise conduct is pleasure to a man of understanding.
What the wicked dreads will come upon him, but the desire of the righteous will be granted.
of the righteous will be granted. Father in heaven we give you praise and glory thank you so much God for your word we thank you for the Prophet Joel who just
was with us only two days and yet and yet your Prophet Joel not only prophesied
that yes young men would see visions and dream dreams and that's fulfilled in the
New Covenant but also he calls us to repentance just like your prophet Isaiah
Called the people of Judah and us to repentance as well help us to give our hearts to you more fully this day and every day
In Jesus name we pray in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen
I forgot to mention that I think I forgot to mention yesterday that one of the really big deals in the book of the prophet
Joel in chapter 2 is that he says
In those days the member the day of the Lord being a really big deal for Joel
He says it will come to pass afterward
What will that I will pour out my spirit on all flesh your sons and your daughters shall prophesy your old men shall dream dreams
Your young men shall see visions even upon men servants and maidservants in those days. I will pour my spirit
This came to pass in the feast of Pentecost.
In fact, Peter is when he gives the speech on Pentecost
and calling people to repentance, he quotes Joel,
he quotes this very verse,
and I can't believe that I didn't say that yesterday
for crying out loud, what's wrong with this guy?
Because it's a big deal.
It's a big deal because the day of the Lord
not only happened, right?
It was the locusts that Joel was using as an image
and then the armies that were going to invade and mow down and bring God's not just his justice
but also bring about his invitation, his call back to his heart, but also this day of the Lord that
has come in Pentecost and will come ultimately that we heard today in chapter three,
which is so incredible for us and so important for us
to realize that Joel ends in talking about in that day,
what will happen after the day of the Lord.
When justice once again reigns,
the mountains shall drip sweet wine,
hills flow with milk,
stream beds of Judah shall flow with water.
These people, they remember what it was to live past
this plague of locusts. They knew what it was to not have wine, to not have milk, that all the animals had died because they
didn't have any food. They knew what that was like and so there was such a, I imagine, a palpable
experience of, yes, that kind of desolation.
I do not want to go back there and the consolation that God offers is
Definitely something that I want one last thing about Joel
I just want to highlight is Joel says something that
Kind of goes against what we read in Isaiah chapter 2 and we can read in Micah
And I think we read in Micah and for sure we did that Joel says take your
and Micah, and for sure we did, that Joel says, take your plowshares and beat them into swords
and take your pruning hooks and beat them into spears
and let the weak say, I am a warrior.
Beat your plowshares into swords
and your pruning hooks into spears,
let the weak say, I'm a warrior.
Isaiah in chapter two, he said, no, no, no,
they're gonna beat their swords and the plowshares,
they're gonna beat their spears into pruning hooks.
That's what Micah also says.
And here's Joel who says,
actually you need to prepare for war.
This is what's going to come.
Because we realize that yes,
ultimately in fulfillment that we're meant to live in peace,
not only peace with God,
peace with each other,
peace within ourselves,
but there's also as the book of Ecclesiastes says,
there is a time for war.
And there is this sense that as long as we live in this world that is so brutal,
this world that is marked by violence, there are going to be times, and Joel is saying this,
there are going to be times when you have to actually take your plowshares and beat them into swords
and take your pruning hooks, beat them into spears and say, I'm a warrior.
Even the weak, not just the mighty say say this but even the weak will say this
It's not God's plan, right?
Remember the prophets job is not necessarily to foretell the future but to foretell to be able to say okay in this moment
This is what you may need to be doing or in this moment
This is what you need to do why not because it's the best thing not because it's God's plan necessarily
But because you might actually need to fight
You might actually need to take these printing hooks
and make them into spears and your plowshares
and make them into swords.
It's just the price, the cost of living in a world
that has been broken, broken by sin.
And so of course, the big call is not necessarily
to take up arms against others in physical violence, right?
The call for us as Christians is to be able to see
the deeper spiritual reality about this,
just like we saw the King of Babylon yesterday,
and how the King of Babylon is a representative,
an image of Lucifer.
And remember what St. Paul says,
our battle is not with flesh and blood,
but with principalities and powers,
with essentially with demons and dark forces
that have come against us,
even that brokenness in ourselves
and the brokenness that gets manifested in the world,
this is still a spiritual battle
that every single one of us is in the middle of.
So back in Isaiah, chapter 16,
he can, chapter 16, remember there's an oracle to Moab
and this is what's all gonna go down
and that chapter 16 is a continuation of the oracle
to Moab that sense of remember Moab is now modern-day Jordan right across the Jordan river
on the east side of the holy land the promised land and those folks they had been enemies of
Israel and so here is God saying yeah this coming to you in chapter 16 and chapter 17 with an oracle concerning Damascus. So
Syria and that remnant up there that what's gonna happen is they also are gonna experience the justice of God and
Remember the justice of God is always oriented towards conversion. It's oriented towards goodness oriented towards fulfillment
And so even in chapter 17 verse 7 it, it says, in that day, men will regard their maker.
Basically, those people, those pagan people,
non-Jewish people, and even those Jews
who were living up there in Syria,
in the region of Damascus, they will regard their maker.
They'll remember the fact that there is a God in heaven,
and their eyes will look to the Holy One of Israel.
They will realize that, remember, all of this stuff, all this destruction,
all the condemnation that is coming upon the people, not just the people of Israel,
but the people of the world is meant to get their attention, meant to wake them up. In fact, C.S. Lewis has this quote.
He says, we can ignore pleasure. We can ignore God speaking to us in good ways.
He says, but pain insists on being attended to. God whispers to us in good ways. He says, but pain insists on being attended to.
God whispers to us in our pleasures.
He speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pains.
Pain is God's megaphone to rouse a deaf world.
And no doubt, pain as God's megaphone
is a terrible instrument.
It may lead to final and unrepented rebellion,
but it gives the only opportunity for the bad man
for amendment. It removes the veil. It plants the flag of truth within the fortress of the rebel
soul. And this is what the prophet Isaiah is saying. That's what C.S. Lewis, a modern-day prophet,
had said. This is what Isaiah is saying, that God's punishment is always oriented towards
turn back to me.
So in that day, men will regard their maker,
their eyes will look to the Holy One of Israel,
and they will no longer have any regard for their altars,
the work of their hands.
It will not look to what their own fingers have made,
either the Asharim or the altars of incense.
In those days, they'll turn back to God
because his voice was loud enough in their suffering. The voice was loud. His voice was loud enough in their pain that they could actually listen.
And that's my prayer for myself is God, I don't want to make you bring me pain in order for me
to listen, but even in the midst of pain, help me to listen to you, God. And that's a prayer for all
of us, right? Is that no, Lord, yeah, if I can just hear your voice
without pain, awesome, fantastic, let me turn to you,
let me repent of whatever I need to repent of,
let me belong to you fully.
But if pain comes along, if suffering comes along,
if justice or even just evil that you allow to happen
comes along, help me to hear your voice
in the midst of that pain. When a storm comes along, Lord, help me to hear your voice in the midst of that pain when a storm comes
along Lord help me to see your face in the midst of that storm if tempest can
kick up and are threatening to drown me Lord help me to have your heart in the
midst of that pain that's our prayers my prayer for you as well please pray for
each other I am in need of your prayer too. Just please keep praying for me because this is a great walk,
but we're all walking together.
And there is something about the fact
that every single one of us who's listening to this,
every single one of us is going through something.
Every single one of us is facing some kind of battle,
some kind of enemy, some kind of obstacle that
that we can't do on our own can't do it on our own and so we pray for each other and
And we stick with it and what's gonna happen is we're gonna see each other soon
Maybe tomorrow
That's what I'm excited for. My name is father Mike. I can't wait to see you tomorrow. God bless.