The Bible in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz) - Messianic Checkpoint: The Gospel of John (2025)

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

You've made it to the first Messianic Checkpoint! Jeff Cavins joins Fr. Mike to introduce the Gospel of John. They discuss the structure of this Gospel and what makes it so different from the other th...ree Gospels. We learn that the Gospel of John doesn't just tell us what Jesus did, but most importantly who he is. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/bibleinayear. Please note: The Bible contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, my name is Father Mike Schmitz and you're listening to the Bible in a Year podcast where we encounter God's voice and live life through the lens of scripture. The Bible in a Year podcast is brought to you by Ascension. Using the Great Adventure Bible Timeline, we'll read all the way from Genesis to Revelation, discovering how the story of salvation unfolds and how we fit into that story today. Speaking of today and speaking of Genesis to Revelation, we are now launching ahead. We just are in the midst of this time period, but we are jumping all the way to the Gospel of John in the New Testament. It's our first of four Messianic checkpoints.
Starting point is 00:00:39 So one of the things that this comes out of is the idea or the reality is essentially that as we're going through the Bible timeline, right? Following these 14 narrative books, we recognized that if we just kept going through from beginning to the end, we wouldn't be reading any of the New Testament until roughly November. And so we thought, wow, it would be very, very important to introduce to all of us in the midst of this year, a number of times where we get to take a step back and actually kind of launch forward and see, okay now how has all of this been leading to Christ? Because all the Old Testament is pointing to the New Testament,
Starting point is 00:01:16 all the Old Testament is pointing to Jesus who is the fulfillment of everything. And so for the next seven days we are going to be walking through the gospel of John. And in order to introduce the gospel of John so we can get kind of an understanding, once again, of John and of the structure of John's gospel and how unique John's gospel is, once again, we are joined by Jeff Cavins, which we're super grateful to talk with Jeff about John. Hey, Father. Good. Good to join you.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And what a treat it is to look at a gospel at this point. It's like a little bit of a reprieve isn't it? You're going through all this history and yeah but what about Jesus, but what about Jesus? And here we are we're gonna jump ahead for the gospel of John so this is gonna be great. So good, yeah. I'm so grateful for the opportunity even just to see here is where the whole thing points, as I know, I think you might've even been the first person to point out this quote from St. Augustine.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I think it's St. Augustine, right? You can correct me on this one, is that the Old Testament is revealed in the New, and the New Testament is hidden in the Old. And that's one of the things that I love about, well, all of the New Testament and Old Testament, but when it specifically comes to the Gospel of John, there's a number of like just really critical connections that are fulfillments in John's Gospel of all the stuff that we've been reading. And some things we'll be reading in the future.
Starting point is 00:02:38 But there are so many, I think people who have been journeying with us for these last number of days will hear John's gospel in an entirely new way, knowing all that they know now, having walked through Genesis and Exodus and Leviticus and Numbers and Deuteronomy, all that we've been through. I think this is going to be just a unique experience of journeying through John. Sure, it will be. And there's a couple of things to remember. And one is that all scripture that you have been reading, and in the case of our listeners, all the scripture you have heard up till now
Starting point is 00:03:14 is all Christocentric, meaning it finds its fulfillment in Jesus Christ. And that's what Bible study is all about. And the other thing is what Pope Benedict mentioned, and that's called recapitulative history. It's a big fancy word for Jesus came and did it again. He came and He relived those stories. And so as you start to read the Gospels now, keep in mind that this is about fulfilling
Starting point is 00:03:41 something. that this is about fulfilling something, and it's about the Son of God fulfilling what the firstborn Son did not complete. And so Jesus had to fulfill all righteousness. He had to complete this. And then we have some guidelines in the Catechism about it being a revelation of who Jesus Christ is, and that's where we get to today with the Gospel of John. The Gospel of John is different. Everybody knows there's four Gospels,
Starting point is 00:04:10 and the question would come up, well, wouldn't it have been okay to just do maybe one? Just have one, because one tells the whole story. Right, right, but the reason for that is that all four Gospels have a different emphasis, and some of the Gospels have a different emphasis, and some of the Gospels share stories. So for example, Matthew, Mark, and Luke seem to be sharing material, the same stories,
Starting point is 00:04:35 the same miracles, some of the dialogue. And so John stands out because John is really different than those other three gospels, not to mention that John is really for more of a universal audience, but there is an emphasis on each of the gospels. In Matthew we see Jesus as King. In Mark we see Jesus as the servant. In Luke we see Jesus the man, the humanity. And in John we see God, Jesus as God. In fact, you know, in Matthew's Gospel it starts off with a genealogy and it goes back to the son of David, whereas John starts off and says, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. And so it starts off with the divinity of Jesus. A few other things that are really
Starting point is 00:05:27 interesting as people are going to go through this with you. There's only eight miracles recorded in John and six of those miracles are very peculiar to John. John doesn't have any parables, whereas Matthew had nine of them. Luke had 35 parables. He taught very much in a in a Hebraic way that way. But one of the things that's beautiful about John is that every single chapter provides kind of a separate portrait of who Christ is and what he has demonstrated as far as being God. And so you could say that the synoptic gospels, Matthew, Mark, and Luke, they tell us what Jesus did. John tells us who he is in a real beautiful way. Another thing that's interesting is that John,
Starting point is 00:06:18 over one third of John's gospel, chapters 12 through 19, covers the last week of Jesus. And so it really focuses on that crucial work that he did, that centerpiece of his death burial and resurrection. That's a really, really important point. And our response to the Gospel of John is the word believe. And that word believe is used many, many times because as John is showing you that Jesus is God, Jesus is the key to salvation, then the onus is upon us to respond to it. And that is called faithfulness or we believe,
Starting point is 00:07:05 we believe the truth. Yeah, and that sense of how John also makes that connection between belief and obedience, and a lack of belief and disobedience when it comes to, even the classic slash powerful kernel, the heart of the gospel in John chapter three, verse 16, for God so loved the world that he gave his only son
Starting point is 00:07:30 that all who might believe in him might not perish but might have eternal life. But then he goes on to say, but some disobeyed in a sense that illuminates what it truly is to believe in the context, not only of, I assent with my intellect, but also I say yes with my will. I actually choose what God has commanded. If you love me, you'll do what I commanded you.
Starting point is 00:07:54 You'll obey me. And there's that connection between, in John's Gospel, so powerfully between faith and the way we actually are living right now, which is just so necessary for the Christian life. As well, you know, one of the things that always strikes me about John's gospel is not just as you noted, there are not too many miracles and not any parables, but how thoroughly full of Jesus is teaching, just direct teaching. Just it's, you know, whether that's the Last Supper discourse, the High Priestly Prayer, that time during the Last Supper, how much Jesus is teaching that last night before His betrayal and before His suffering and passion.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah, you mentioned the High Priestly Prayer in chapter 17. That is an amazing prayer that when we get to that, we'll see that we are focused on that, that He prays that we would be one as He and the Father are one. And that's very, very powerful. You know, every time I hear the Gospel of John, I'm reminded of Pope John Paul II, because John Paul II, he did Lectio Divina on the Gospel of John every month of his pontificate. So you could say that he literally owned it.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He owned that Gospel. And that's something that I would really encourage people to do is choose one of the Gospels and own it. Really get to know it. Memorize the main theme of every chapter. Now John is great for that because every chapter, as I said earlier, is a portrait really of who Jesus is. So you have the very famous nine I am statements in, of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:09:33 So John says about Jesus, I am the bread of life in John six and I am the light of the world, John eight. And also in John eight, before Abraham was I am in John 10, I am the light of the world, John 8. And also in John 8, before Abraham was, I am, in John 10, I am the door. John 10, I am the good shepherd. John 11, I am the resurrection and the life. John 14, I'm the way, the truth and the life. In John 15, I am the true vine.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And John 18, I am he. And so, and John seems to enjoy doing this because when he later wrote, when he later wrote the book of Revelation, he also picked up on that as well and uses I am the Alpha and the Omega, I am the beginning and the end, I am the first and last,
Starting point is 00:10:20 I am He who lives and was dead, and I am He who searches and reigns in hearts and I am the root and offspring of David and I am the bright morning star. So John is just really into revealing who he is and his divinity and I think that that is beautiful. The one verse that really caps it all off in John is John 10.30 where Jesus said, I and my Father are one. I and my Father are one. And he who has seen me in John 14 has seen the Father. End of case.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah. Yeah. That makes it so clear that Jesus is making the connection that, I mean, who he believes himself, who he knows himself, not to believe, who he knows himself to be. And he knows himself to be, as you said, I am the father are one. And before Abraham was, I am. And all those, those pieces in, as we heard in the book of Exodus, how God reveals his sacred name, I am. And here is Jesus who takes that and claims it for himself. Now there's a piece of, if you recall,
Starting point is 00:11:31 in the last chapter of John's gospel, when after Jesus has risen from the dead, and Peter and some of the other guys are out there fishing on the lake, that they catch a certain number of fish. And is there a little kind of like insider baseball here when it comes to that certain number of fish. And is there a little kind of like insider baseball here when it comes to that certain number of fish that could also be a pointing to Jesus's identity?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yes, there actually is. And you bring up an odd point, right? And it says- It is an odd point. It is. In John 21, Simon Peter went up and drew the net to the land full of large fish. And John wanted you to know how many.
Starting point is 00:12:07 So I mean, either he's really got a thing with numbers or he is trying to show you something. It's 153 fish. Thank you, John, because that story would have been incomplete without that number. 153 fish and although there were so many, the net was not torn. Yes, you're right.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Numbers mean something to the Jewish people. And in the Hebrew language there actually is not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. They actually use the alphabet to depict the numbers. And so every letter has a numerical value. you. And when you put the phrase, the phrase, I am God, in Hebrew it comes up to the equivalent of 153. And that is an amazing revelation. And I guess you could call it a Hebraic type of teaching where John is showing you that there was 153 fish. We'll see 153, what would that mean? Oh, I'm God. I thought something was fishy. No, and it's just one of those things where, right, where the Bible has so many different
Starting point is 00:13:19 layers to it. And that's one of the reasons why, you know, we'll be going through all of John's gospel in only seven days. And so the next number of days for those who've been journeying with us are going to be pretty full. They're going to be full with the story. But I think I love about that is it means that we get to allow the entire story of John's gospel to kind of just wash over us in many ways, just to be able to take it in knowing that I won't be able to take it all in kind of like the previous 90 days
Starting point is 00:13:48 or so, I will not be able to take all of this in. But what I'm going to do is I'm just going to, I'm going to allow in whatever can get in. And so I might miss the 153 thing. I might miss some of the other pieces of the, these stories of John's gospel, but, but to realize in one week, I will have heard a gospel in its entirety, which I think is just a blessing. And I think is something that all of us
Starting point is 00:14:12 can be looking forward to. You know, you mentioned that 153 fish, and I mean, you're teaching me something here too. And that is that, you know, we were talking about, John is really speaking about the divinity of Christ, and here at the very end of it, at the point, and I'll just mention this, this is after Peter betrayed the Lord three times. He let the Lord down three times. He was the first pope, and he, you know, he did not serve the Lord the way he was supposed to, and he actually went back to fishing. That's what he's doing up in Galilee, and Jesus says, no, you still have that calling
Starting point is 00:14:53 on your life. And that's where he reveals the 153 fish, which is in Hebrew, ani Elohim, I am God, Ani is 61, Elohim is 92 for a total of 153. And I think that that is showing us that God is still God even after we've blown it. And maybe people reading with you during this time feel like, you know, I just haven't been the servant of God or the husband or the, or the son that I should have been. Well, this is the book where, where you have a chance to begin afresh and Jesus says to you, lech achari, come follow me. Yeah. Yeah. That fear of am I disqualified? I know my, I know, I know what I've done.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I know what I was, maybe even at some point as a, as a follower ofqualified? I know what I've done. I know what I was, maybe even at some point as a follower of Christ, I know what he's called me to and the dignity is bestowed upon me, but have I disqualified myself? And am I done? He's gonna go on without me and he's gonna do what he does because he's God and he's still God.
Starting point is 00:16:00 They'll get someone else. Yeah, yeah, or is it, or is it, no, not you're not disqualified, you're restored. And, and that's those last chapters of John's gospel. It's so, so again, important for us, because I think if you haven't been in a place yet where you feel like you've disqualified yourself when it comes to belonging to the Lord or serving the Lord, just wait, because I think most of us get to that place and that's where we need to hear again, the Lord speak to Simon Peter and ask, do you love me? Okay, now feed my sheep, let me restore you. You're not disqualified, you are restored. And that's such a gift. As we conclude this episode, Jeff, any kind of, as I always ask,
Starting point is 00:16:42 any takeaways as people can launch into these, this next seven days of John's gospel? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Right in the middle of the gospel of John, you have John chapter seven and John chapter eight, and it's the story of the woman caught in adultery. And the leadership wants to stone her and they are shaming her and she is broken and and they are shaming her and she is broken and publicly shamed and it's in that amazing story that the Lord releases her from that shame and brings her to himself. And so I would really encourage people,
Starting point is 00:17:16 you know, whatever shame in your life, it doesn't have to be what this lady committed. It can be a shame in your town, shame in your family, shame for something you said, shame for something you did in college, whatever it might be. I want you to know that Jesus is not going to hold you to that shame the rest of your life, but He is going to release you because He can. He's God. He is divine, and that's what the focus is, and that's what the focus is, and that's just not a theological point.
Starting point is 00:17:47 That is an experience that we can have in our life. Because He's God, I can be free from shame. Maybe it was something on the internet, who knows? But you can be free and be restored to the Lord whether you are someone listening to the daily readings or you're the pope. Right. And if the pope's listening. He's just brushing up on his English. That's listening to the Bible. Right. For all that's so good. And that I think that's a great word to to not just end this episode on, but to launch into the gospel of John with, which is that sense of,
Starting point is 00:18:24 I remember hearing someone described that said that The guilt is when I know that I've failed to live up to a standard And so, you know, I've the standard of being honest and I wasn't honest So I'm guilty but but shame is when you see that I've failed to live up to that standard that that I'm I'm not just That I'm guilty in your eyes so it's a relational kind of a situation. And just what the healing there, or the remedy there with the woman caught in adultery
Starting point is 00:18:51 is she stands before, is on the ground before Jesus. And Jesus sees her and knows her and loves her. And as he says, I forgive you, I don't condemn you. I'll go and sin no more. And that being seen, I forgive you, I don't condemn you, I go and sin no more. And that being seen, allowing ourselves to be seen is one of the most powerful remedies for shame. And maybe not by everybody, but definitely by the Lord.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Sam goes, so glad you brought that up as we launch into John's gospel. It's going to be good. Jeff, you'll still have your Facebook group that we'll continue to meet on Thursdays. Yeah, we answer about three to five questions every week that you, the listeners, are asking. And usually it's, boy, I don't understand this, or how could God do that? And we try to take those apart as best we can, and always coming from the perspective of we trust God and God is good. He's not arbitrary.
Starting point is 00:19:42 He doesn't just do one thing one day and another another day, he's consistent and his actions are always held to who he is. Yeah, which is so good. And you know, cause the commentaries each day, they're limited, they're incredibly limited, not only in time, but also in my own wisdom and knowledge. And so I'm so grateful that every week, those who are journeying with us have the opportunity
Starting point is 00:20:08 to get your wisdom and your guidance. So that that's the what we're doing now. We're on this journey and so we need each other. It's not just about ourselves. It's not just down to us. It's not just down to one person or even a couple people. It's the whole community of us who are allowing God's Word to shape our hearts and to form our vision of us who are allowing God's word to shape our hearts and to form our vision so that we can not only see like God sees and love like God loves, but truly live how God has called us to live. And so in order to do that, we need grace and we need his help. And so keep praying for each other. Keep praying for me. I am praying for you tomorrow. God bless.

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