The Big Picture - The 1989 Movie Draft

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

We’re drafting again! Before diving into the draft, Sean, Amanda, and Chris react to two recent pieces of news with Disney reportedly turning down Steven Soderbergh’s ‘The Hunt for Ben Solo’ (1:05), and Taylor Sheridan leaving Paramount (9:25). Then, they discuss who they were in 1989 (17:33) and draft the best movies from that year (29:44). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Amanda Evans. And this is the big picture of a conversation show about 1989. of course we're potting today about the Taylor Swift album and Chris Ryan is here to do so are you excited are we out of the woods you know is that song on that album have you listened to that album in full yes yes I think so yeah I think just ambiently I've been exposed to it no I remember that but you know he was he was well into his like I don't acknowledge Taylor Swift take at this point in the in the journey well into it absolutely yeah so I just didn't know whether you circled back stock's been paying out hard this year I was wondering if you catch that ticket just sitting on a lot

of dough off that Taylor Swift short sell. We're actually talking about 1989 movies this year. We're drafting again, which is very exciting. But, you know, we're pre-recording this episode, and there's been a lot of news over the last couple of weeks. And the three of us haven't been together and had the opportunity to talk. The big three. Yeah. Here we are. Yeah, the big three. And we never talked about the hunt for Ben Solos. And there's two people, I couldn't find two people I would want to talk to you more about this news. So much, yeah. Sex lies and solo.

This was the news that Steven Soderberg and Adam Driver came together to develop and pitch a movie about what happened to Ben Solo. Yeah. After he died. He died in the last Star Wars film. Well, that's not what the movie. That's not what the pitch was about. I think it was that he somehow survived. Yeah, it wasn't about like Ben Solo's journey through the afterworld, you know?

That is also what dreams may come, but Ben's solo is. that would be a movie. No, it would be like the Nick Cave version of Gladiator 2. Oh, oh, wow. Maximus and Hell. Solo goes to hell. Okay. That would also be really fun.

So Soderberg and Driver, they get this pitch together. Obviously, very exciting, the idea of them working together again. They work together on Logan Lucky. And it goes up the chain. And Scott Z. Burns, like, writes it. Yeah, so Scott Z. Burns is in. He's, of course, worked with Soderberg many times before, and Contagent, especially. And they pitch it to Faloni and Kathy Kennedy.

and they're like, sure. Maybe. And so they kick it up to Bob Eiger's office. And Bob Eiger looks them in the eyes and says, no, no chance. And then that's it. But why? What is his reasoning? What is his reasoning?

His reasoning is because Kylo, like, Kylo Ren, whatever his other name is, already forgot, is dead. Yes. Somebody took the focus group note about, you can't say somehow Palpatine has returned. That was literally my. I was so ashamed of myself and also like, yes, and like it's so angry at you and this world that my first

reaction to this, I was like, but Palpatine was dead. And I was like, what are we doing? I have to tell you something. If you ever decide to pivot to being Star Wars, Mommy, you're fucking unstoppable. There's nothing he and I can do. If you're just like, you know what, guys?

I'm going all the way in. I've read the book of Boba Fett and I've become a book. believer. We're done. We're done. We can't stop. It's true. That's very true. So, sincerely. Yes. Would you want this movie?

Yes. I don't care. Sure. Do I want it more than many other movies that... That's the take to me. But you're taking my take before I've said it and twisted it. How did I twist it? We're going to talk about some other movies that are being made that are adapted from franchises that are supposed to be, you know, for large audiences.

And I don't give a shit. I like, I don't even want to talk about Call of Duty, you know? Like, I don't care. So let's not make that. If we're going to make big budget movies, if we're going to use people's time, if we have to chase the money, give it to me with Steven Soderberg and Adam Driver. Well, that is, that's my take is that it's replacing, at least in theory, one to one, another Star Wars movie.

So that you can only do so many Star Wars movies at a time, and there still has not one. It's been six years since there's been a Star Wars movie, which is just malpractice. I mean, it's just completely ludicrous. There have been ten Star Wars shows in six years. Okay. Time out. Time out. I mean, that, two separate problems here. Because I still remember the end of 2019. Yeah. We were in your guest room in Palm Springs before you arrived, the orange room in the back by the garage. You remember that? Baptizing it. Yeah. Recording a podcast. And you just absolutely, you had a classic Sean meltdown about Rise of Skywalker and how it's not good, which it was not.

I had a really good pod performance is what you meant to say. And a lot of the complaints were, like we have too much Star Wars. We have too many movies. They've, you know, they don't have ideas. They've, you know, like they've squeezed the orange too much or whatever. I don't know. What do you squeeze? Yes.

They squeeze the new qualities of oranges. They squeeze the orange. They squeeze the orange and it's done now. That wasn't my complaint, but I'm sure. You can't turn around. If you go back and listen to that episode, it was not, there are too many Star Wars movies. It was that why did we bring back J.J. Abrams to make another Star Wars movie

and then commit all these sins in this Star Wars movie. Now, it was a good time to take a break. Including, and we should all be honest, that Palpatina is alive again. That was terrible. We were all, even I. Apoplectic. Yeah. I was like, wait.

If you say Steven Soderberg's going to direct it, I'm like, I'm going to hear him out. I'm just going to hear him out. Now, I will say, I can't, do, do they, has it been reported when they pitched this? I don't know. It sounds like in the last 12 months because there is that history of him in his culture diary where he had a, like a 20-day stretch where he watched nine Star Wars movies, including, I think, Empire and a New Hope like three times, because he was trying to get back to, you know, he watched Phantom Menace and everybody was like, why the fuck did Stephen

Soderberg, just watch the Phantom Menace. Right. Because I was going to say, I can kind of see it from Bob, Bob Eager's perspective. Oh. Where he's just like, you know what? This ended so badly. Mm-hmm. And you know what?

We've abandoned the center in this country. No, I can see him from his perspective where he's just like, I'm done with this. I'm done with the, the Ray, Kylo. It ended badly. Okay. Those movies, you know, reportedly cost way more than... That was so mad. I was so mad about it.

That they kissed. Yeah. Because you don't look at them Star Wars model. Look at all these things. But it really was. You're gonna roll out like, oh, the new character that you're all supposed to care about is like a girl and yay.

Like, you know, it was like she, oh heaven. And then at the end, she just has to be like a love interest. No. Come on. Come on. I will say when I was at Disneyland earlier this year, my daughter met a young woman who was portraying Ray at Galaxy's Edge. And it's probably the happiest that Alice.

ever wasn't her entire life. But so we don't need. There's a picture of it that it melts my heart. That I've seen the picture. You also sent us the moving version, which was very cute. So we have multiple records of it. It's wonderful. For me, Ray is very, is in the Hall of Fame.

I'm not dissing Ray. I'm dissing that we are teaching Alice. At the end, it's not enough to conquer the world. You also have to like kiss and make up with the villain. Thumbs down. Okay. Well, you know, to me, I want Alice to go thrive. More of an epic romance, you know.

A story of longing over a trilogy What I want is the Scott Burton's scriptural leak I don't know if it was completed You know or whatever but that is Please get that out there I think it's mostly because there have been So many TV shows is why I'm stamping my feet About not having a movie

Well I stopped I stopped two or three years ago I'm just not really paying I'm not engaged at all in that world right now You didn't watch Andor even I still haven't even seen I haven't caught up either, Zach, watch without me. It's like something got unplugged in my body. You know what I mean? Like, I've just kind of lost a connection to something

that was incredibly important to me for a very long time. And it's, I think it's in part because they just overloaded on that stuff. Do you plan on catching up before Mandalorian and Grobu comes out? Or you just go into that kind of like... Do you think I have to? I don't. I mean, I do want to watch Andor. It's not that I don't want to watch it.

It's more just that the idea of like finding that focus time over a long period of time is just becoming increasingly harder in my life. But if it's not connected, it will probably delay the time in which I can get to it. And I'm sure most of what I see instead of watching Andor will be much worse than whatever Andor is. Yeah, no, I don't think you're like, I couldn't possibly waste my time on TV. It's definitely not that. I'm watching the chair company. I don't know.

Oh, sure. Yeah. No, listen, I haven't even finished the diplomat. Then I got to do, nobody wants this. That I think you'll like is Down Cemetery Road. I have literally no idea what that is. It's Emma Thompson and Ruth Wilson. Oh, sick.

Mystery in Oxford Emmaton. It's a Nick Heron's other detective series. Oh my gosh. This is so exciting. I'm learning about this in real time. Oh yeah.

You'll fucking love this. Well, I mean, we got to stop watching movies then, you know? Because it's really piling up for me. It is piling up for me as well. Speaking of writer-directors and returning to movies. Chris Ryan is here. Well, Taylor Sheridan's been in the news over the last week. Commented on this.

And so you have as well. That's right Well, everyone thought of you When this news broke When Matt Bellany broke this news The Taylor Sheridan was leaving Paramount To sign an overall deal That starts, I guess next year

On the film side at Peacock Universal And then in 2028 on the television side So a fairly complex situation And he also has a Warner Brothers film Incoming with Brandon Slidhar from 1923 It's called Fast Was he also the other guy In the Blake Lively

Justin Baldoni? He was the other. guy. He was also appeared earlier this year in Drop. Sure. He has a big role coming in the housemate. That's right. Yes.

Yeah. They're really pushing him. Yes, he's having a moment. He's kind of like the Norm core Josh O'Connor where it's like, why are there five Josh O'Connor movies right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's got this Warner Brothers movie. News broke this week as well that the movie that I guess kind of kicked some of this

into disrepair was this Call of Duty film. Yes. That he's been writing and producing for people. Pete Berg at Paramount. And you said something on the watch that I completely agreed with, which is that Taylor Sheridan's screenwriter is something I have always liked. And I think three out of his four movie scripts, I think are really good. And the fourth one he directed, and I don't think it's as good.

For those who wish me dead? Yeah. Pretty good movie. It's okay. It's okay. And also... Listen. I think it's the least of the others.

Well, I think it's... Hell or High Water, Sicario. It's better than without remorse. Yeah. I forgot about it. He wrote without remorse as well. Okay, well, that was... Yeah, that was bad. He's credited as the screenwriter.

Okay, interesting. That one wasn't very good either. But, you know, he makes a very muscular, masculine throwbacky kind of film that usually has one interesting theme. And yet when a woman is in it, you don't like it? No, I thought Elizabeth Olson was terrific in Win River. And Emily Blunt was excellent in Sicario. He has a pretty good relationship with female characters.

He writes lioness. If you've seen Alley Larder and Landman, You know that he really understands the totality of the emotional experience of the American woman. I feel like we've been hearing about a Call of Duty movie for 20 years. Yeah, it's like the new Halo, basically, because remember Halo was going to be Peter Jackson, it was going to be all these different versions of it. Isn't there a Spielberg version of Call of Duty once upon a time? She got involved in that.

I think also there was like, because there's been so many iterations of Call of Duty, and he may have been involved in the one that was the World War II one. I don't know. And you've been developing one about January 6th, which is how's that going? Me and Aaron Sorker are very happy with the results so far. Amanda, Call of Duty, have you played it? I was not listening. What's Call of Duty?

It's a video game? I mean, I know that. It's a first-person shooter, like, high-key. I love it. I love to hear about first-person. But you're not going to hear me out. I'm not going to tell you. It's a war game set in combat.

That's awesome. Definitely what we need more of. Is it always in real-life events set against real-life events? I think there's an aliens one. There's an aliens one. Oh, can I tell you something? Yeah. Can I go off on a tangent?

Do you mind? So last year, I'm going to England, but I'm very excited about. And last year, I took my wife to a theater experience and like immersive theater experience that she really wanted to go to. Tell us more. That I can't remember the name of it now, but it was essentially like, you have to go into a teenage girl from the 1990s's bedroom and kind of solve a mystery. But like PJ Harvey and Bjork is playing. I mean, this does sound like cater to Phoebe.

And I was like, I love you. Let's do this. It was just like, that was so fun. And then I was like, guess what, Phoebe? The same theater group is doing a, you're on a stranded spaceship and aliens are coming for you play. And she just blanked me. She was like, that sounds like something you could do with Andy. That sounds great.

And I was just saying, like, what are. Anyway, I think there is a Call of Duty that has an alien plotline or something, maybe a zombie plotline. I'm blanking all of you. Sanders, do you watch any, do you play any COD? Sanders, okay. I played it when I was like 13 but don't really remember about it I mean you turned out great so it's okay I still have not acquired my console or started playing my video games yet

I will do that maybe for Christmas maybe that will be my gift to myself you don't have time you have to watch all the movies and then you have the TV what if I double screen and or while figuring out how to play Eldon Ring that would be pretty cool then I would really be and then I can very clearly downshift into weed dad. And then I will be complete. If in five years, let's say five years. And I show up with an Xbox 8 for Knox.

I will not let you in the house. And then I'm like every night, bro, you and me, headsets. And I would just throw it away. It's going to be great because here's the way to do it. It's very simple. No. It's not bringing it to the house. It's you invite Knox over to your house and you play it in front of him.

Really? If he plays in my house. It's just never in our house. No. No, she doesn't understand it. If he's exposed to it at your house, he's going to start asking for you. at his house. And I will say, as I have said, thus far, for three and a half years, we don't have that at our house.

You're making an even bigger mistake right now because you're letting us know that this is where you stand on this issue. And I will break you. That's right. Like, Knox can move in with you. He can live in the garage. I'm not offering that. And he can play video games 24-7, not in my house.

And I like Knox with a Zinn. I think he'd be very helpful. Just walk out of the stairs the morning. Good morning. How'd you sleep? He's very good. I'm going to keep brainstorming on this. You got to start with like Super Smash Brothers.

You know, something very appealing to a young boy. She's not going to let him have Tetris. Like, we have to do this on our own. We can build it. I'm not worried. I'm not worried. I really thought Zach was with me until the, what was the name of that game we played? The game night?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, where you have to rank things. Oh, yeah. And then Zach ranked video games, number one. Yeah, was it worse? I guess you're sleeping on the street today. Well, he revealed that he did have a PS3 era. I got him into FIFA for a while.

And he got rid of it when we moved in together. It lives inside all, man. I just want you to know that. Anyway, I don't give a fuck about the Call of Duty movie. Okay. You know, inside of every Taylor Sheridan show, there is a great movie. I'm convinced to this.

I've thought about this recently and I thought about like how cool a Billy Bob Thornton oil man movie or a Nicole Kim and Zoe Saldon. I've seen that. It's called a T-Mobile commercial, But anyway. We know we're going to talk about a lot of movies from 1989

where the setup is like, that would just be a TV show now. It's a very like kind of pat observation. But he kind of got marginalized by like the way that movies pivoted to, there's only high concept big picture stuff. I mean, he leveraged it very effectively. But it would be also nice to see him do like a period Western. Obviously he's been making period Westerns on Paramount, but he's not been able to make one as a film.

Sure. Plus, yeah. I want it until they drop him. by the way. Reportedly, all the episodes that he does make cost as much as mid-budget films. So that was one of the sort of issues of Paramount, reportedly. Interesting. Well, we wish him well. He has roughly $900 million, so I think he's going to be all right. He also owns a really nice big ranch in Texas. Have you been? I haven't.

What's it called again? The four-sixes. Is it open to the public? I wonder about that. Is there like a restaurant, you know, near the gatehouse for a visit? There's a Taylor Sheridan and Branded Steakhouse, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah. Where are its locations? I'll let you do that. There should be a horror movie that's about a guy, a.k.a. you, who stalks Taylor Sheridan to the ranch. That's probably what his Texas chainsaw mask or pitch was.

Oh, that would be good. One of my many stands. It appears that it's in the win in Vegas. That's where his steakhouse is? Yes, 4-6s is Ranch Steakhouse. This is an incredible field trip episode of this show. I'm in. Let's go. Next CinemaCon.

That sounds fantastic. Oh, my God. Okay, I'm in for that. Yeah. Okay, let's go to 1989. 1989, I was seven years old. I'm going to start by talking about this. I don't really remember seeing any of these movies in movie theaters.

I feel like we do all these episodes about the early 90s. And even I remember doing 88 and thinking, did we do 88? I can't. Maybe 87. And thinking that I'd seen some movies. But I don't remember seeing any of these movies in theaters. This is a huge VHS year for me. Okay.

And I would say that if you looked at just pure raw data, I've seen gleaming the cube more than I've seen any movie that you would want to put on your letterbox stop for. Because you would rent it from the video story. I would rent it and my mother would get furious at me because I would not return it. And a lot of movies here are 12-year-old Chris Staples at the expense of watching like true cinema.

But obviously a lot of really great movies came out of this year and a lot of decade-topping movies and a lot of really definitive movies for me. But yeah, huge repeat. Pete rentals and not the kind of movies that you would go around trying to get dates at doing videos with. That's good. That was life before. Yeah. You know? You had to do this for like cloud chasing. Yeah. Like cinephiles. You know, it's like, I just watch movies. What were you like at 12? This is 19. So I guess I was in sixth grade. Yeah. You know, bot mitzvah time,

you know, I was slow dancing with girls. What was, what were the best themes at the bar our embattments was that you attended. You know, I don't really remember them having themes. Okay, no like landman theme. No, I mean, I used to try to dress up like Parker Lewis can't lose with the rayon shirt buttoned all the way up. I remember well. And Google Boys and, and, uh...

Bring it back, man. Yeah. Some like fake ray bands with the green rims, yeah. But, yeah, this was, you know, just the middle school. So I was... Okay, where was the travel baseball career at this point? It was pretty good, but, uh, I'm trying to think of sixth grade. So I was 12.

I think I was still like just doing Fairmount Sports Association. Okay. Actually, maybe this was. You hadn't been called up? No, this might have been travel baseball. This might 13 was a big year. So 12.13 was 89.90 was my peak. What was your slash line at this year?

Well, we didn't believe in advanced analytics. We believed in momentum. We believed in effort and grit, you know, but that won us a championship. So shout out to Parkway. Shout out to the Fairmont Sports Association. Okay. They still, our name still rings out. How many teams were in your league?

You laugh. I have a jacket. I'll bring the jacket back. Does it still fit? No. Can that's wear it? Oh, you know what? He probably could.

Cy could probably wear. But yeah. Yeah. Okay. You were five? I was Alice's age. You were four. I was four turning five.

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Yeah. So what cognitive memories do you have from that period? Nothing specific, but I have. And I don't know how many of the movies I was seeing in theaters. Because I don't think that my parents were as evolved as you are.

Thank you for saying that. Yeah, you're welcome. But I have memories. I have memories of a lot of these movies and connecting with them at a young age. So this is going to be half. Grown up Amanda tries to be a centophile and half like I was there on the playground singing the song. I don't I mean I also was probably playing a lot of baseball at this time and probably deep into GI Joe at this time that seems like six turning seven those were core interests for me did you have any older cousins or friends in neighborhood who let you in on on the secret scrolls of some of the exploitation movies or beave movie genre movies of the time that's a very good question I didn't I'm the oldest boy on both sides of

of my family. The burden. I mean, it is in some ways. I fled to California in part because of that burden. I was certainly aware of Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th and Halloween. And one of the interesting things about this year is this is the only year in which all three of those franchises had a movie out. Okay. I went back and looked because I have a lot of free time, apparently.

You can't watch Andor, but I can't watch Halloween five. And when you're seven, it's kind of when you start to become aware of horror and that sort of thing. And, you know, this is also the year, I should, I should change my opinion about whether I've seen a movie in theaters. Because I did see Ghostbusters, too, in movie theaters. And that's another movie, that's the real gateway to horror, where if you see that movie and you like that movie and you grow in affection for Vigo the Carpathian, then you might get more interested in Freddie Kruger. But I didn't have anybody putting me on to that stuff. I think that that was just literally doing what my kids for, my kid, for example, doesn't do it, which is watch TV commercials. Sure.

Oh, my kids love TV commercials, but... We don't really do that because of how we watch TV. And so, like, I would just see the Dreamchild commercial. Yeah. And be like, what is going on with that? That is very exciting. And that's how I got interested in a lot of movies. Yeah, I mean, I think there was also, because there were trailers at the beginning of the VHS tapes that you would rent,

you would kind of like... You would sort of note for future reference that, you know, something looked illicit. And I honestly think that might be how I found out about some of the... cooler movies of this year was like seeing a trailer at the beginning of the do the right thing tape you know once it came out or whatever and be like wait what's mystery train what's this like you know so kind of getting introduced to some of this stuff that way what do you make of this year any like reflections on what it means like i mentioned those horror titles and this is a pretty important pivoting time for horror it's like kind of horror entering a real down period

like end of slasher right um it's end of slasher yeah before we get to scream in five or six years It, to me, this is obvious since it's like 1989 and the next year is 1990, but it is a real pivotal year. I think in a lot of part because of sex lives and videotape. And this is like where the Sundance and like kind of ushering in 90s independent cinema, like literally with Soderberg. This is also the year of do the right thing, which, you know, famously does not get nominated for Best Picture. So a lot of new people coming in. This is the year of when Harry Met Sally and the like starting the rom-com. And you also have, like, maybe not the last good Oliver Stone movie, but, like, it's a lot of the ends of certain types of things.

Like Daniel Day winning for my left foot, it's an introduction of him, but also that's a pretty classical, like, showy Oscar performance. So it's not a year we think of, like, a lot, or that I spend a lot of time thinking of as, like, a really, like, pivotal film year. But a lot is changing. I think you're right. I think there's a good case for it being more. important than even we talk about on the show, having done all these drafts, the fact that it's taken over five years to get to this draft is kind of interesting. Maybe just a mistake on my part. No, I mean, we're running out of years. I think also there's like a, I wonder if we

went back and looked at journalism about the movie industry at this time period, because obviously in the moment people tend to be like, well, it's not the same as it was five years ago or 10 years ago, but it just seems like such a stable and healthy movie environment at that time where you had a real baseline of like mid-tier dramas and rom-coms and drama dromedies that Hollywood were churning out and you know because you have this I'm thinking about this a lot recently I'm sure you guys have addressed this on the pot I may have missed it but like this kind of dialogue that's going on right now of like who is an actual famous person versus who is an actual box office draw right I know that kind of came up with Josh O'Connor a little bit but like well Amanda was saying

Even when we were talking about Chalemay, I think, I think you were very pointedly. Like, there are no movies. Like, no one can open a movie. Right. There's not a single person now who guarantee is a movie opening. I would argue,

not to draw this back to a boring conversation we've had five times, but one battle doing 185 or whatever is a real testimony to Leo overseas. Yes. Which is still something, but I mean, that was a person who was at the top of the heap for decades.

And he's the only one. Yes. And then that's it. And this is the, but this is an interesting challenge to that. Because if you look at the top of the box office in this year, it isn't really fully defined by stars. The number one movie of this year is Batman. Also, pretty notable.

And starting a new generation of... And Indiana Jones in The Last Crusade, obviously Harrison Ford is critical to the success of those movies, but still, it's a third film in a franchise. Lethal Weapon 2. Another franchise. Mel was a huge star at that time, but it's a franchise. Look who's talking. It's a gimmick movie and becomes a franchise Honey I Shrunk the Kids

Gimic movie for kids Going to be a franchise Back to the Future 2 Franchise You know This is And this time We talked about this many times

Over the years And the rewatchables When we do 80s movies too But there is a pivot point In the middle of this decade Where this becomes more of the strategy You can see the tides shifting In the second half

The bottom 10 Of the top 14 here or whatever Is like wow We used to make things Yes. Movies for adults pretty much. And they're profitable and they're about divorce or about broken families or about missing your father or having diabetes. And this is the thing that we are literally saying when we say the middle. Yes. These are the movies that make 80 million dollars and they're profitable and they win awards and they're in the culture at large. They don't

make 300 million dollars like Batman, but they do really well. And this year's littered with them in addition to I think all of those sea changes you're talking about just kind of in the movie business and the new voices that are coming through. So pretty exciting. and pivotal year, absolutely, like, nightmare Academy Awards. One of the most nightmarish Academy Awards in movie history. And there's one cool win. There's two cool wins with Denzel winning for glory. Yeah.

And Daniel DeLuis announcing himself as a critical figure. But the, and I guess Oliver Stone winning for Porn on the Fourth of July is good. Mind it. It's one of the good ones. Yeah. You could make the case for any of the other nominees in that category this year. You know, you had Woody Allen for Crimes in Miss. Demeter's Peter Weir for Dead Poet Society, Kenneth Brana for Henry V, and Jim Sheridan for

my left foot. But driving Miss Daisy wins best picture. I don't think it's going to be drafted today. No. No. I have you seen it? I think I've seen it once. Have you seen it? I don't know. I honestly maybe haven't. Now, like, I've seen clips of it, but I think by the time I caught up to it, you know, even in the moment, we weren't old enough to really be paying attention, but it was understood to be an outrage of sorts. It was definitely a movie that was for old people, too. Like, I remember my parents. I think I'll be talking about my parents on this episode a little bit more.

But I remember my parents being very bored by this movie. And very, very surprised by the fact that born on the 4th of July I've mentioned in the past is about Roncovic, who lived on Long Island, who had a big, he was a very big figure in the community that I grew up in. And so there was a lot of warmth towards born on the 4th of July. And that's like an adult movie, that Poet Society, another. movie nominated for Best Picture that just like everybody liked, you know, it was just kind of universally appreciated and enjoyed. So that's setting aside even the, um, do the right thing. Exclusion. Right. A couple of other movies that we'll talk about that probably should have been here as well.

But it's a, it's not a, it's not a great. I also have some strong thoughts about best actress and Jessica Tandy that we will maybe get to in this conversation. You're going to besmirch Jessica Tandy's legacy? No, she's a fine actress. She has multiple Tonys and, uh, yeah, but it's just a lot of people that you want to sleep with and the rest of the category. Well, I mean, I would if they presented that option to me, but that's not,

that wasn't that specifically. Okay. Any other thoughts before we dig into our drafting? I'm excited. Yeah. This was, you know, this was one where you said 1989 and I like made a face at you

and then read through the list and I didn't realize what a deep bench this was going to be. It's a pretty cool. And so these are the categories we'll do before we do the draft order. It'll be drama. comedy, action horror, thriller, Oscar nominee, sequel,

Blockbuster with a $75 million threshold, and wildcard. So we're back to seven categories, just the three of us. Okay. Feeling good? Yeah? Okay, Jack Sanders, we need a draft order. All right, let's do it. All right, Mr. Dungeons and Dragons.

Here we go. We have the huge dye going? Yeah. Just such a good noise. Drafting first, Amanda Dobbins. Wow. Okay. drafting second

Chris Ryan drafting third Sean okay it's been a minute since we've drafted just the three of us I think so

at least a couple months no PTA character draft we did oh right I haven't had a year draft just that's in a while yeah okay so

there are a couple obvious first picks but if I've learned anything, it's that I need to take what I really want. I kind of actually think that this isn't true and that rarely do we like shark you? Well, you might on,

I don't know whether you would on this one, but I just like, I can't not have one Harry Metz Alley. Like, I can't not have it. What? I think you're absolutely making the right choice and it also wounds me. Yeah. Because it means that the top two picks

are going to be off the board. So, and I'm going to take that in Blockbuster. Okay. Good call. Good pick. Yeah. This is... I think this is absolutely the right move. Thank you.

Thank you so much. We're being very nice to each other today, and I'm going to roll with it. We're rebuilding, you know? I'm heading into the second half of my life, and these relationships are very important to me. When Harry Mott-Sally is the best and most influential romantic comedy of my lifetime. And this in 1989 resets. It is the modern romantic comedy era. There was no disrespect to some of the greats of the 70s and 80s.

but every movie starring Julia Roberts, Meg Ryan, Kate Hudson, who am I forgetting, Sandra Bollick, Reese, any of the movies in the 90s and 2000s that you or I loved owe a debt to when Harry Met Sally, which is far more sophisticated than any of those other movies. This also sets Nora Ephron off on her. she wrote this one and then starts her on her filmmaking or really establishes her filmmaking career. I'm still a fan of Heartburn, which she wrote before this. But this is like she's certified. Did she have another movie this year? Oh, she wrote a cookie, right?

She did. Yeah, yeah. So it's, you know, obviously, like, hugely well-known, hugely quotable. I love it. Controversially I picked, or controversially to other people, I picked You've Got Mail in the New York City draft rather than when Harry Met Sally because I was operating under the confines of

it was a New York draft and for whatever reason I watched that You've Got Mail growing up more than I did when Harry Met Sally but it's it is one of the great movies. I would say that 1989 produced more iconic scenes and memorable movie moments

than almost any other in my lifetime. Like, you still see... Classic unverifiable podcast take. I can't. But I can't verify it, but I would almost... In my mind, I'm like, there are so many scenes from moments from movies of this year

where you would see it in a historical Oscar montage. Right. You know, and like the... Obviously, the deli ordering scene. I'll have what she's having. Yes. But yeah, great pick. Sharp image.

For me. I think it's the best of this kind of film. It is. I think that you're right. There's best and there's favorite, and it is the best. It's the pinnacle. Okay.

You have a second pick, Chris. I'm going to go with Do the Right Thing. Which category? I am going to take it. Delete. In drama. Okay. Tracy, let's recently called this the best movie of the 80s in his

Criterion Closet video. I tend to agree. I rewatched some of it last night. I just did. I was a great video. Yeah. I've told him this personally, but that just good job, Tracy. He told me that there were quite a few of his picks were left on the cutting room floor and he was frustrated about that. But he did share those picks with me. Can't overstate the lightning bolt effect this movie had on my life along with the explosion of rap music at this time period. It was honestly one of the pivotal moments of my cultural experience. Public enemy and Spike Lee and all these things happening at once really did feel like a historically relevant moment that we were living through.

And this movie still brims with so much life and so much energy, so much inventiveness, a quintessential New York movie, incredible ensemble of performances. And just, I think should be honestly like a first, 10 top movies that you need to see before you die like if you haven't seen the rewrite thing you should a thousand percent hit pause and go watch it

I do think I said something to that effect Wesley and I did a rewatchable is years ago now yeah like maybe seven years ago about the movie but one of my favorite episodes of that show that we've ever done and yeah it had the same effect on me I didn't see it until I was older

there would be no reason to see it until you were more like giving yourself a film education as a teenager yeah but I still remember like you know in my head it always begs around is the Chuck D 1989 another summer and you're just like

oh my god it really feels like we're living through something yes and defines this maybe is that can that needle drop open this episode or we're not allowed to

is that fair use yeah because we couldn't get Ganga 4 from Marie Antoinette oh wow we can't we just can't even fair use these beautiful sounds anymore

yeah um yeah gosh I do love that so you're mad though no those have been but do you think we did okay those were my one and two picks I think those are the

because they fit a number of categories they define the year in some ways they're both wonderful they're both like very easy to return to um you know they're up there in this montage you know and jack selected which films to spotlight behind us those are the ones he chose um so yeah i mean there's a ton of great movies left and there's a ton of strategic picks to make it does leave me in the unfortunate position of then like i feel like going very male broie which a lot of my drafts have just been really male broie lately and I wanted to say something I don't really see myself that way

and I think I have like painted myself into a corner on this podcast as being like that and I regret that So now Star Wars Mommy and Super Ally I didn't say that I just wanted to be in

It's a braving world I'm excited She's got fucking Leia buns and you're like You know what Oh okay I think the right strategic move is maybe not exactly the one that I want to make

but I'm okay You have two pictures you can have to do one for us, one for them, huh? Yeah, okay. In Blockbuster, I'm going to take Batman. I don't love a lot of the Blockbuster's here and I do love Batman, another movie that has been featured on the rewatchables.

Tim Burton's really brave recontextualization of Batman, reimagining of what Batman is casting Michael Keaton. Like, it is, that movie, you can go back, look at what Batman was in the way that he made that movie a little bit more strange, more gothic, more unusual than expected. You know, enlisting Prince to do the soundtrack, pretty bold move.

Is that your favorite Batman? Pretty easily. You know, I was always very, like, I felt bail was good. I really had nothing negative to say about bail, but I think it's just age, too. It's your first guy. If I see Batman, when we rented that

movie from Blockbuster, and he's Batman to me at seven years old. Yeah. That's kind of life-changing. That's definitional. So I love Batman. Team Keaton forever. I mean, this was just in life, you know? I like I also really like Bail.

And once again, I think Robert Pattinson is very tall in the suit. A few more movies, and he could be rising up the power rankings if they ever make those films. I'm an Affleck guy, so. Okay. Well. Now, I do wish we could have seen the Affleck directed Batman. Well, sure. That would have been.

Of course. That would have, that could have challenged something. Because he looks the part. He's got that kind of like graying billionaire energy that you would want from that character. I don't know. Anyway. I mean, that would be the most fascinating celebrity document

to me personally in, you know, in the past 30 years. What do you think he would reveal about his own personal psychology? You know? Yeah. Do you feel that he goes into a cave and puts on a mask when he acts in the world? Sure. Or when he goes out, you know, to pick up his FedEx and his Chick-fil-A.

his Dunkin' Donuts. Did you know we're roughly two and a half months away from the RIPP appearing? Yes, I did. On Netflix, the new Matt Damon, Ben Affleck. Is it a January December? It is about cops who rip off drug dealers in Miami. It's such a really fertile story for popular culture right now. Hard to believe you believe that.

Task? Yes. This? Yes. Oh, is that what Task was about? Task? Yeah, I didn't watch it. I'm sorry.

It's in the first episode. You didn't watch any of it? No, I didn't want to know because you guys started without me and then, Listen, like I said. Who's you guys started without me? The watch, for one. I felt, I did finally feel excluded by the watch, but at the end of the task. I'm sorry.

But it's fine. We're back. You know? I have listened to all the Sheridan stuff. But yeah, it's, it just got away from me so fast. I'm really behind on TV. And that's what happens with TV is it's just like you blink and three episodes they're up. And then I asked Zach what it was about.

And he told me and I didn't hold on to the information. So. I changed my mind. No, really? I'm not taking it in Blockbuster. Okay, okay. I'm taking it in thriller, action, horror. Okay.

Yes. Okay. Okay. Do you believe it belongs there? I deleted it from that category, so yes. It's an action movie. Yeah, it is. I also was thinking, where does science fiction fit?

When we say that, is that fit in there? I use that as a blanket genre non-comedy thing. Gotcha. Okay. So I'll take that there, just because there's a dearth of titles. So that's Batman. That's Batman. In action thriller.

Kyle Chandler is in the wrap. Damn, I'm excited. I'm pretty pumped. Me too. The trailer was awesome. I mean, this has like, um, triple frontier, you know, energy going around it in a big way and I'm ready for it. We can share a streaming movie. Yeah, we can share a Twix again.

Oh, yeah. That's, yeah. There we go. See? You guys can share Twix any day. If you just go to the store and buy some Twix. Okay. So now.

I'm on pins and needle. Yeah. In sequel, I'll be taking Indiana Jones in the last crusade. Oh my God. You don't even like the Holy Grail. You don't believe in it. I don't believe in it because it's not real

because I've done my research. The cup of Christ? It's not real. God, fucking damned. It's an imagined idea that was invented to stoke mythology amongst believers. That being said,

wonderful movie. If you walked into the chamber and the night was there, the crusade knight was there, and he was like, look at all these cups. Do you think deep down, inside you would pick the cup of a carpenter

or would you pick a bejewed kind of like King of King's thing. Let's refashion this question. I walk in the Knights there and he's got all the four case and he's like which which one do you want? What's your question? What's like what do you really want to have?

I don't know. And it's Tracy Letts and he's like I have all of these discs. Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade. Obviously magical. Sequel is a tough category. There's some good ones. But nothing like this one.

This is, in my opinion, the best sequel from this time. And I don't know. If you guys are going to take the two best movies, I at least got to make a smart move. You did your job. But sequels is tough for me because, like I said, I was four when this came out. So I wasn't, I had not seen the originals of many of these movies.

And so I didn't like go out and seek the sequels when I turned like nine or ten or whatever. so it's thin for me. Well, that's why it's called a draft and not Amanda gets what she wants. I feel... We were doing really well and I was even trying to

be measured about the fact that you took this even though you have just a tremendous amount of bad historical takes about this movie. You were always like, it's not as good as like Temple of Doom and it's definitely not the best one. I never said that. I never said that.

I don't believe in the grail and I don't like any stories about it and then you won't respect you know the... Don't put in the newspaper that she's mad I'm like a little mad and I was trying to be okay

but you don't you don't have to snipe at me about my emotions okay? Fair enough There we go Oh this is also

Indiana Jones movie Last Crusade is Oh really? Yeah oh yeah You're right Of course The catacos Yeah

Because everything is It's very old there And sinking into the ground In Oh go ahead You know what you want to do Yeah In Oscar

I'm gonna take Philter dreams Okay Now I'm made for best picture I got to tell you, man, this is a perfect movie. I re-watched the people will come seen this morning and started crying. And, okay.

Good movies. It's going quickly now. Back in the news because of Amy Madigan, I find. Yeah. It is back in the news. And I was rewatching it late this summer. And it, I remember watching my parents watching it and crying and not knowing why.

Yeah, yeah. watching it now and crying and be like, oh, I get it. And, you know, Phil Alden Robinson, who also did sneakers, and it's based on the WP Can Sell a novel, Kevin Costner, in one of his iconic roles and honestly, probably iconic looks, you know, the button down tucked into the jeans, standing in the cornfield. Unbelievably hot. Also, just the, the t-shirt that he's wearing when he's walking through the cornfields, and they're like, if you build it, they will kind of know the spurs.

It's powerful. But I was actually really struck by the depth of the cast. It was the last time I watched it because I'd forgotten, like, Frank Whaley plays Young Doc, obviously Bert Lancaster, Ray Leota, in a kind of almost like movie star mat-nay role as Shill as Joe. And James Roald Jones is phenomenal in this movie. Gabby Hoffman is the daughter,

Timothy Busfield as the annoying brother-in-law. Terrible character, but yeah, we'll allow it. Classic, like, old-school, bad movie character. Where you're just like, why won't this guy just stop annoying everybody about this? Like, this is not a... Who does he want to do? Like, buy the cornfields? Just sell the farm.

He's like, you're basically, you're underwater with your mortgage. You got to sell the farm. I'm trying to protect my sister, but also probably get a little wet my beak a little bit. I think maybe the best last 10 minutes in, in like a movie history,

including the last shot to pull out as people are driving up. It is historically a movie that when that sequence begins, it's like you, if you are touched, you turn into a puddle. Like, it is very deep. And the Phillies are playing the Field of Dreams game next summer.

Where are they playing? I think Cubs. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, that's fun. Two historic franchises. Yeah. Mired in success? Yes.

Mired in success. Yes, mired and success. Amanda? I wanted that one. You have two selections. I wanted Last Crusade. You got a lot of stuff. You're good.

You got tons of stuff in here. No, I have a lot of stuff, but some of the category things are tricky for me. And I'll be totally honest, in addition to not having seen that many sequels, I only became aware of the sequels category. at 9.48 last night. So, you know. It was all there. I have no one to blame but myself. But this is a culture of honesty and transparency.

That's right. So that's just where we are. It's also a culture of accountability here on this show. Okay. That when we select when Harry met Sally, there are consequences. Okay. I said I was the same age as Alice in 1989. Not that I am.

Okay. All right, I was just bitching about sequels, but I'm not even going to do that category. An action horror thriller. Here we go. I mean, I... Shocker? Yeah, it's a shocker, but it's like...

No, the film's shocker. West Craven's shocker. No. About a deranged criminal who's executed and then goes into the TV. Movies that are left that I've seen... Ghostbusters, too. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. This is for thriller, action horror, not... Correct. I had a funny bit for you for sequel that I was going to try and tip you off to but I don't think we We don't have time

We don't have time We don't have time but I enjoy the Bill Murray of this movie The most which has nothing to do with action horror Or really even thrilling It's just funny But he's very good and then I don't know I like the slimer guy

Yeah slimer sure How do you feel about the idea of a river of Ouse that runs under through the aqueducts of New York. And it's feeding off of New York's anger and misery. Negative energy. Yeah. Great metaphor.

And not doesn't scare me as much as other issues. Like I wouldn't want to like step in it. I wouldn't volunteer to be. It's it's acroid who gets lowered down. I believe so. Yes. Yeah. I wouldn't want that to be me.

But I wouldn't say slime is like number one on my list of concerns. A line reading from that movie that echoes in my mind in perpetuity is Vigy, Vigy, Vigy, you have been a bad monkey! That's a very classic Murray situation. Weird thing that I just heard that I'm going to share because we're talking about this movie. Aziz Ansari was on Kim Masters' show on KCRW

and had a long conversation, really interesting in part about the making of good fortune, his movie, and then some of the issues that he has found himself entrenched in recently. Some of the press that was written about him like around Me Too, and then about the Riyadh comedy festival. And then he talked about being mortal, which was the movie that he was making with Bill Murray

that was canceled after Bill Murray was accused of inappropriate behavior. And in talking about that, Kim Masters, who's been reporting on Hollywood for years and years, was like, I was on the set of Ghostbusters 2. And Harold Ramis was a saint, and Ivan Reitman was a nice guy, and Bill Murray was terrible.

He was absolutely awful to be around. And I thought it was interesting for her to just say that in that environment. Was it a disease cost like saying anything about? I, Aziz, I think, was just trying to be as polite as possible. But it was, it was one of those things. No, he didn't do any of Ziziz's bits. That was good. It was like 35 minutes into a 36-minute interview.

And I was like, well, no, they left that in there. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. It happens. I hate to hear it about somebody. And there are stories. You can also imagine it, you know?

Like, there is the curmudgeonly difficult aspect of his personality as part of his comedy as well, but if you're dealing with it all the time, I bet it would be in wing. I mean, the man has a voicemail because he doesn't take phone calls, you know? Yeah, just like me. You love to see it, but also that indicates a level

of a difficulty that, I don't know. He's funny in this movie, and Sigourney Weaver looks very beautiful. She does. This is sort of like her, you know, the late 80s working girl into this. Oh, yeah, it's very inspirational to me. And

I'm glad that baby's safe. So, Oscar? Oscar. Yes, Oscar is the name of the baby. Oscar. Yes, that's right. She's no longer Zool. The key master?

No, she gets, she gets exercised. Yeah, at the end of one. At the end of one. Yeah. She has no, there's nothing about her that's supernatural in two, right? No. No, well, but she's a mom, you know.

You're right. That is super dash natural. That's the most powerful of all. Yes, absolutely. Okay. In comedy, I'm taking Heather's. I say what's your damage to my children an inappropriate number of times a day for

and it just like comes out of me I don't say fuck me gently with a chainsaw so I feel like in terms of parenting I'm doing pretty well I do sometimes nobody in particular say I love my dead gay son sometimes like if I'm playing FIFA you know Why it gets injured?

This, you know, existed before, what is the name of the Lindsay? Mean Girls and all of the other, did you know that girls can be terrible? And did it with more hate and vitriol and really better styling than anyone, than any movie since. And I think I saw this before Mean Girls somehow. Like, I do think I saw this at it probably what we would now consider inappropriate age. But at the same time, I was watching all of the John Hughes movies, which is clearly, like, in conversation with. Almost like rejecting. Yeah.

And. Daniel Waters, amazing script. I, yeah. And just a version of women or teenage girl characters that is not the cheerleader and is, in fact, just, like, really angry and mean and ugly. And, you know, that is very freeing. And it's also, well, it is. I mean, you shouldn't kill people, but also, like, they're bitches. So, and, and the script is amazing.

And so very quotable. And should I get one of those corsages? Like, like, like a sort of camellia thing that she wears right here. It's a really good one. It's a good luck. That's a future look. Yeah, thank you. I love that this is a movie that you can watch and just enjoy on the surface.

And then you can read so much about, like, all the references, the intellectual references it's making also like the all the stuff they do with color theory and like the red scrunchy or the red hair tie that symbolizes power, all that stuff. Is it true that this was written with the hopes that Stanley Kubrick would direct?

I believe so. Which is quite interesting. Yeah, you gotta dream big. Yeah. And certainly by the end of the movie, it's kind of this grand, violent, absurdist spectacle. You can see him taking a bite out of that.

And, yeah, the two lead performances are kind of singed into my movie. my brain. Slater is, you know, obviously all of the female stars are the movie,

but Slater, like, trying so hard to be Jack and kind of getting it, like kind of getting there, is really, is really quite special. What does she yell at the end?

Like, I'm done with cool, I'm done with cool guys or something. Like, as they're down and she's defusing it, it's very funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really, really great stuff.

Great pick. Great movie. Thank you. Um, okay, C.R. You've got a pick. This is interesting. This is not quite playing out as I had expected it would. Okay. Not in a bad way.

I'm feeling really good about this. I'm going to take in, uh, Blockbuster, and I kind of can't believe it's, it's such a fantastic world that this was. A Blockbuster, I'll take Dead Poet Society. You're going to do that. Yeah. I was hoping that would make its way to me.

Yeah. Um, I mean, sure. Peter Ware's movie about a group. kids at a boarding school, prep school, who become enamored with their professor or their teacher, Robin Williams, played by Robin Williams, features like a half a dozen fantastic young men performances by Robert Sean Leonard and Ethan Hawke and Josh Charles. As Knox Overstreet. We're getting our heads blown off by Chris in this draft right now.

We are? We are. We're currently being beaten very badly. He has Do the Right Thing, Field of Dreams and Dead Poets Society. Yeah, I see your point. I can take that something. Don't worry. I'll fucking nose dive into a mountain

when I'm just like, actually, no, it's Police Academy 6. You got to salute sometimes or you're like, that's pretty masterful. Middling as well. Middling is challenging on this show. Yeah, I just, this, it's funny. It's like the effect that Field of Dreams

had on, like, basically, like, this is like, I feel like the teenagers field of dreams. Yeah. When you're watching this, and you just imagine yourself. in these kinds of situations and having such an important feeling experience in school. And this was right as like school is becoming more serious for me.

So I thought it was like, well, I didn't take it seriously, but it was getting serious. Okay. And yeah, I don't even know like what to say about this. I think they showed me this in school. Oh, it's like a choice. Yeah. I think I saw it in school as well. And there's some, yeah.

Then it's like, what's suicide? You know, like there's a lot of complicated questions that come up when you're, watching it and 12 years old. We saw last the Mohicans in school at the end of like a period of study of Native American tribes of local Philadelphia area. It's not set in Philadelphia at all and is quite violent. Thank you. Sometimes these drafts can be such a bummer for me because I'm like, how the fuck did

this movie make $95 million? If this movie came out today, it would be released by Mooby and make $4 million. That is true. That is literally true. We can't give up. I'm not giving up. We can't give up. We're spreading the good word.

Dead Poet Society made nearly 96 million. Wow. Peter Wirab, man. One of the best to do it. Ethan Hawke was having success as a child star before this movie, but this is also the movie that vaulted him. I would say Ethan Hawke gave him one of his great ever performances in the lowdown. Right now.

Oh, I thought you were going to say in Dead Poet Society. No, but he's having a little another hawk asance with Blue Moon. Oh, has you ever seen Blue Moon yet? I've been not. God, it's so good. He's so good. Okay. I've got two picks.

And... Wow. I'm just learning that Josh Charles is on an upcoming medical comedy drama television series called Best Medicine. Well, I'm happy for him, I guess. Certainly heard better titles. The title Doc was already taken.

Yes, starring Molly Parker. Yes. I've seen the commercials for that. As a doctor who has amnesia, but is somehow still allowed to practice. surgical medicine. Oh, yeah. Interesting take.

Yeah. I tried to watch baseball playoffs on the way back from New York, I think, and that was not playing on Fox on the, you know, playing live TV. But the amnesia doctor was. Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't watch it. I watched Little Webbing cried. Are there ever any scenes in that show where she's in the middle of a surgery?

And she's like, whoops, I forgot. No, I mean, I honestly have not watched Doc. I'm sorry. Okay. Yeah, too busy. What? Watching dealer shared insurance. So I've got Batman and Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade.

Yeah. Which are objectively, I think, pretty good picks. But I look over at your boards and I'm a little concerned. So in Oscar nominee, I'll be taking sex lies and videotape. Okay. Now, this is a somewhat crowded field of movies that I like. But I think this is... This movie is fucking awesome.

I think this might be the best movie in the mix that is left. Yeah. And you mentioned this is Soderberg's debut, written and directed by him, premiered at Sundance, instant sensation, wildly critically acclaimed, and launched him. And he was the first guy from this stretch of mostly guys, but some women as well,

who were put through the post-sunance world of like, you get to do anything you want, you take on Hollywood movies, you get to, those Hollywood movies fail, you get to make very experimental movies. You get to hunt for Ben Solo. Well, unfortunately you don't. Yeah.

But this is a really interesting character piece about people confronting their desires or not confronting them and a very clever, like, chessboard kind of a movie where you see people's feelings getting pushed around by other people and like, it feels like a very personal movie for Steven Soderberg

about the way that he sees relationships in the world and he's kind of been prodded to talk about that over the years, but this is one that I do remember my parents coming home from seeing at a date night. Yeah. Being very excited about and very interested in. Really?

Yeah. You know, my mom, I don't know if she was a cinephile, which is a big moviegoer, and she was blown away by this movie. I very vividly remember that. I was rewatching some of this last night in prep. Sometimes I just forget,

Spader is so good in this movie. I don't think it gets talked about enough. He is mesmerizing. Because this is shot kind of like a play. you know, and it's in these apartments and kind of spare, spare sets and stuff like that. And he grabs the frame with so much power. It's really, really a wonderful performance if you haven't seen it. Okay.

Any sex laws and videotape's thoughts? It was on my list, and I'm jealous. And I don't spend enough time. Peter Gallagher was very formative in my young life. Yeah. At least, like, my pre-college life between sex lives and videotaping. center stage and the OC so James Spader was as well

but we already talked about him it seemed like he was going to be and while you were sleeping has he not worked with Soderberg since the underneath the underneath probably the most kind of ignored Soderberg movie right movie that came out in the mid-90s

was kind of his last like big Hollywood movie before doing like the reset is a remake of Chris Cross I think it's the it's the heist movie yeah right um there's a very strange movie he's beautifully lit but i don't think he's been in one of his movies since then which is super interesting because they they're they're a good match together too okay sex lies and videotape now what hmm i don't have a great answer for where i want to go i guess i guess i'll take say anything in comedy okay that you struck that that was my next

say anything is yeah of course John Cusack holding the Boombox overhead I'm sure you saw people during the Cubs game when he stood up at that there was like a call

in the ninth inning in the elimination game that the Cubs were playing I was watching this on a plane and John Cusack was sitting in the front row a long time massive Cubs fan and he stood up and he went like this when it was call strike three

on a hitter and it was a terrible strike three call and it was memed instantaneous sure yeah boom box. It was very funny. You know, Cameron Crow, interesting timing for this. He is now releasing his memoir, which I'm really excited to read. And it's interesting this year. There's two

filmmaker memoirs. It's Cameron Crow and Abel Ferrar and like both the two, basically like the two polarities of movieness, one that is the absolute dark core of humanity and one that is I think like a genuinely hopeful point of view on life and say anything in Lloyd Dobler. Lloyd Dobler is maybe the original he made it okay for me to be weird character you know

the like real idiosyncrasy of that character and also yeah and also made it okay for me to not have good batteries but I think he's a bit of a target missile for ladies like Amanda right you know like just like very self-possessed but deeply weird and into his stuff yeah yeah which is a type that I

identify with sure kickboxing you know Also, elder abuse. Well, he's not for that. The film is about that. Yeah. Which you wouldn't know. Yeah.

Speaking of Ione's guy, you know, who has no real knowledge of her father, John Mahoney's terrible deeds. Yeah. And it's kind of a shocking twist in that movie when it's revealed what's happening. It goes like the principal thing

of the last 20 minutes is Mahoney's criminality. But there's like a vagueness to the crisis of their relationship that I found very interesting. It kind of upends what you think a movie can be. You know, it's not. It doesn't have, like, hard resolutions and definitive...

It was more like a short story. It was like where something kind of comes out of nowhere and hits it. Which I know you love short stories. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Don't say anything bad about saying anything. No, it's a great movie. I do think that you watch it when you're 15 or 12 or whatever. And Lloyd Dobler is, like, one person to you.

And then you watch it at the age of 30 or 35. And you're like... That's my husband. and that's great and this is probably the one that I think set Cusack more than anything to become the star that he was

through the 80s and 90s yeah okay those are pretty good yeah I feel okay about that this is totally unrelated well it's I'll do the train of that because it's in your eyes

that's from the right and so Peter Gabriel right but so then Peter Gabriel also makes me think of Phil Collins and then they were in Genesis

exactly And then I was thinking about I actually Invisible Touch is like a fucking dynamite Don't even I'm not your favorite The land lies down on Broadway Of course

Sure and okay We didn't talk about the music cue In House of Dynamite When Idriselva runs out To the basketball Like camp With Angel Rees and all the girls And they're playing in the air tonight

What? So here's my What's going on that? that must have been his campaign theme song. Okay. So that that was sort of his theme song during his administration. But if that is the idea, and we want to follow that, in the air tonight, is a deranged theme song for a politician.

Yes, exactly. But would also be in the hallow tradition of politicians' misunderstanding songs and making them the theme song. No, excuse me. It was, don't stop. Don't stop. Okay, please do not have this merch Go Your Own Way, which is an amazing song. I love Go Your Own Way.

It would also be incredibly funny. Bill Clinton had been like, this one's called the chain. And I love it. Chris, you have a pick. In comedy, I'll take Parenthood. Okay. This is a movie I've seen so many times.

It's actually, in a lot of ways, more of a drama than a comedy, but a lot of very funny performances, Steve Martin, Rick Moranis, Joaquin Phoenix, then known as Leif. Speaking of Aziz Ansari, clips. There was a very funny one recently

where he said he had been watching Parenthood and he was like, damn, who's this kid? And then he's like, Lee Phoenix? Have I discovered a new Phoenix? I'm going to get this guy in a movie and it's obviously, Joaquin. It's also one of my favorite Keanu Reeves performances. He's terrific. Martha Plimpton's also really great

in this. This obviously got adapted later to be a long-running and very well-loved NBC series, but this is Ron Howard's sort of portrait of a upper middle class American family on the rocks and just a lot of big, big life moments happening to a bunch of different

people at the same time. And very sweet, kindhearted movie. Really, I've just been part of my life since the day it came out, it feels like. So, I don't know if you guys have a lot of time for this one. I love it. Yeah. Also, another Lulgans and Babelumandelle banger.

Your boys. Yeah. Your homies. Those are your guys. I know. The thing I find devastating about this movie, is Steve Martin's performance watching his son play baseball. Yeah. That, like, it hurts me to watch that.

That's not funny. You know what I mean? No, it's powerful. I find that this is a very... If you grew up in a suburban environment, this movie felt very close to what it was like. Yes. The complicated relationship between siblings,

you know, the, like, black sheep who is also beloved by the elder figure, you know, there's like, there's so many things... There's weird little nuances in this movie that are really sharp for something that was very broad. and just like a pop blockbuster kind of you know main go mainstream movie going yes good pick thanks i have two in drama i will be taking born on the fourth of july uh which is i think oliver stone's best movie and it is controversial and it is controversial and you know it's actually u-turn is his best phone because u-turn is incredible i mean i could i could hear the case

for JFK. I mean, I know everyone thinks the Platoon is the better Vietnam movie, but I think... I prefer Burnham the 4th of July to Platoon personally. To watch.

Yeah. Yeah, to watch. Also, just, it does star Tom Cruise and one of Tom Cruise's best performances. So, um,

and, and he is like, it's right before Cruz becomes self-aware of like the Tom Cruise of it all. And so, and that's a pretty magical,

and it's the last movie probably where he is playing a character instead of being Tom Cruise playing a character. And even then, it's like on the border. You know, there is some shock in seeing all, you know, Tom Cruise cursing, being angry, you know, rejecting the U.S., all of that stuff. So I don't know, it's a great movie. I've always been fascinated by the sliding door

of if Cruz wins instead of Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah, oh, yeah. And what happens to, not Daniel-D-L-L-Lewis's career, but Tom Cruise's career, and what he is as a star. Because he doesn't, he's not always seemed like so solicitous of the academy. He has not been, like, driven by winning an Academy Award, obviously.

But I wonder what it would have changed. I mean, he still chases, chases it through Magnolia, right? Like, I mean, he still makes movies with... Even after Magnolia for a bit. It doesn't really feel like he, He's chasing it, though. Like, I say that because those are two films about two disabled characters, and they fit that classical mold of, you know, turning your life over physically to playing

apart, which is a, you know, it's still, I think, a strategy that works to help win Academy Awards. And in almost any other year, a young star like Cruz making that commitment to play Kovic, would have won him something. But he just so happened to run into the single greatest actor of his generation, and maybe the next couple. And it's just the, I've thought about it

in quiet moments of reflection. Good pick. And then in sequel, I will take National Lampoon's Christmas vacation. Okay. Yeah, so you're good. Yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm good.

I mean, like, you got me shook. Like, Chris's first three. It's now we're just, you know, we're playing for second place. I don't know about that, because people don't look at it like, oh, Chris is on such a run. They'll look at the totality of,

Well, that's, I hope that people listen to the podcast and experience this emotional roller coaster in real time. And I think you've locked it down. Okay. Yeah. I wasn't like, oh, man, it's over. Well, you see, like this grid that we're looking at here, which is a new addition to our drafting strategy. Thank you, Jack, for that.

It would make more sense, I think, in the future to post the grid rather than the card that indicates what films you picked in which category. Because what you want to show is the order in which things were selected. And that would reveal the strength of your moves thus far. But you know what? Maybe you're about to fritter it all the way. Maybe. Wait, I didn't get to talk about it.

I just... I'm not saying that you should talk, please continue. Yeah, by far my favorite. Your favorite is of a septic tank. I think it's probably how I learned what a septic tank is, thinking about when in my life I was exposed. This one was early. This is maybe the second movie of 1989 that I ever saw

because it was core in our home. On TV all the time. Yeah, and we are recording this in the days before Halloween, which I, as a parent, I'm really, I'm struggling to find my Halloween mom, you know? Are you? Yeah, but let me tell you. Come on. Let's go.

I'm doing my best, but like you were there at Vidy's, you know? It's just I didn't know to have the plastic bucket, and then you can't get past the plastic bucket. Did you hear about this? And then he was just like, weeping in the Disney aisle. And then I was like, yeah. Do you know what I would help with that? It happens. A four-hour halo session.

Just fraggans of aliens. Like, listen, so I'm not crafty. I'm not a Halloween mom, you know? I'm doing my best, but it's not where I thrive. I have other skills. But let me tell you, when that clock rolls over November 1, Clark Griswold, here I am. As you know, how well. You dress like a candy cane today.

You put the lights up. Oh, yeah. And I think probably this year, as the children become like more sentient, they're going to be no moving spookies this year. But will there be moving Santa Clausus? Probably, and I'm open to it. Okay. So.

Only Judeo-Christian decorations in your home? Yes. We have an inflatable skeleton. Okay. And, um... But that's not for Christmas. Or is that meant to represent Christ's birth? Sure.

Yeah. Or also opening the tomb, you know? Sure. Yeah. Isn't that Easter? I want to get him a manger, but it's just the baby Jesus' master chief from Halo. So he knows who's really the savior Anyway, this is a great film

We're going to absolutely crush this Video Game Uncle is such an elite role in life That's fine It will just, it will not cross my doorstep It's not on my time That's you No hold the line You'll definitely win

Watch me. Watch me. You'll definitely win You'll definitely win Okay First of all, I love that you keep selecting problematic comic stars in other categories. That's great. Chevy Chase legendarily not a nice person.

But is actually amazing in this movie. And in the final scene, near the final scene with Brian Doyle Murray when he learns what his Christmas bonus is, you can make the case

that's the best performance Chevy Chase is ever going to be so funny and so enraged. Is that how old is shit? Yeah. Yeah. So he's great. Elaine Benis, you know?

Joey Dreyfus as a next-door neighbor. No piece of shit in that movie. Yeah, she doesn't get it. You know, I feel that way about Halloween. I'm her until you get into Christmas. But I think you're trying with Halloween. You're trying your best.

I'm trying. Yeah. Yeah. I feel. What are you going as? I feel running as mom. I'm going as just mom. Okay. Yeah. And you are going as? Christoph. But Christoph from Frozen 2. Yeah. So. Oh, interesting. So what is the costume difference there? A shade of tunic, I think, is a little different. Has your tunic arrived? Yes. Is you have a wig? Okay. I don't. I really seriously consider dying it. white is that what it would be blonde it would be like it would be like tims sims sims i would end up looking gray yeah that would look fucking it would look cool you should do it i would love that i kind of

want to do it why not i have nothing to lose i'm i don't know christoph i got to be christoph tomorrow well we could do it tonight you know or in the morning but no no no but so now i'm just looking you're saying that you know i've never dyed my hair so i don't really know but i do wonder whether we would have to like strip the color from your hair before then turning a blonde. Because like, yeah, so dark hair turning lighter is an issue. I don't know anything about this.

I don't know where... You would have a lot of fun alien earth if you did it. We'd be pretty sick. It's very generous if you say that. I mean, like him, but not. Yes, I will be Christoff and yeah, Alice is Elsa and Eileen is Anna. Yeah. It's with a, it's a long, it's an awe.

Anna. Anna. Got it. Just so you know. Scandinavian, really. virgin, right? No, you've abandoned us for Halloween. I mean, I'm sorry I'm knocking a beer for it. You know, I love it. Is it because it's a pagan holiday that you won't be present? No, I'm going to England.

But they have Halloween there. Maybe when I land tomorrow night, I'll be greeted by like Michael Myers, you know? That would be a cool way to bring me through customs. That'd be a great way to kick off the new Halloween franchise and Sierra gets off the plane, gets stabbed right away, right in the terminal. In sequel, it's my turn, right? In sequel, I am going to take Diplomatic immunity!

Shout out to Joss Ackland, all my South African guys out there, and shout out to Patsy Kensit, and lethal weapon to my first love. Is she? Yes. You just shouted out all the apartheid guys and stuff.

No, they all die. To rest in piss. Okay. But who are you referencing? What do you mean? The freed people of South? No, I'm saying. Fuck those.

guys. You know, I mean, shout out, I see you dead. You know, like, when Mel Gibson puts fucking nine in your chest because you took his lady. I get it. And you fucking pulls your house down. They don't make shit like this anymore. This movie's kind of deranged.

This has also got the toilet explosion. That's when Danny Glover's on the can. And it's got, it's got Leo Gets, right? Is Leo Gets in two or is he in three? No, he's... Pesci, you're saying? Yeah. I think he's in two.

Right? I'm pretty positive. in two. And then he has a bigger role in three, right? He is in two. Yeah, he's in two. What a fucking great movie. Honestly, what a great movie. They let Martin Riggs be happy, but then they took it away from him, and then he takes everything from them, from apartheid. Well put. Free Nelson Mandela, you dumb son of a bitch. That's what he says. What a great message.

What's the message? Free Nelson Mandela. Sometimes you just got to say it You just got to put it in the script You know You can cut together A lot of the things that I've said in this In this episode It's pretty weird

That's true in most episodes I think Okay You like this one? You know what anything to say about lethal weapon too? Lethal weapon in general is cool Like I like it Yeah It's not in my

For you it's a very important It's very important And I respect that And I echo Van Lathens Why Mel Y You know Definitely a star I really enjoy his movies but it seems like human garbage um i don't know it's a through light of those

the 80s a different time it was a different time yes so is it going to be called passion of the christ colon resurrection it's passion of the christ colon master chief and it's set in the world of halo and it christ christ christ the redeemer comes it's like he puts on the gear David Ellison is pumped right out. Fuck, it's all coming together. That's how you do it. This is money on the table.

Just come to the big picture, ask us what you think you should do. What is the bad guy? It's called like the Horde or something in HALO? I've never played Halo. You missed out. So what's up with Halo? What about it?

What do you do? Yeah. You're a guy named Master Chief. You're like a super soldier. You jump out of a spaceship and you fucking fight aliens. all over the place. Oh, okay.

But, like, are you, is it, like, zero gravity? Are you floating? No, you're running. Where? I can't remember the name of the planet. It's really funny when you slip out of character and you actually just become, like, the base shit lord that you are, where you're just like, it's fucking sick, bro.

Like, and there's no affect, there's no irony. You were just literally like, I was sitting in my apartment. It was 2006. I was high as shit, and I was playing Halo. And my life was awesome. Smoking indoors playing Halo. Is it actually the, greatest human experience you can have.

That's pretty good. I don't really know what to do. Okay. What do you have left? Thanks for asking. Let's figure that out right now. So I've got drama, which you would think would be an easy category. And yet I feel a little bit stumped. I've got Blockbuster.

I guess I have to take in Blockbuster Back to the Future Part 2, which I think is very, very good. And is as sequels go, a lot of fun. And a huge part of the, became a huge part of the culture because of the hoverboards, because of the sports almanac because of Trump, right? Isn't there like Trump thing? There's a Trump thing, yes.

A movie that felt pressure at the time, we still don't have hoverboards? Yeah. What's up with that? What's up with that? I mean, it's weird where they put their money into. Weird what they put their money? Well, now it's all going into crypto.

Right, but like we could have hoverboards. Have you guys, like, talked about this on your other pods about how, you know, Trump is trying to devalue the dollar so that he can pump up his crypto and his family's personal wealth? I talked about that on Zachlose pod today. Okay, great. You did. I really do like when business Chris comes on a podcast.

I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's good. Back to the Future 2. Yeah, we just have too much debt. Should there be? I did say that. What did you say?

I said that the problem is that he bought it with debt. Zazov, but Warner Brothers Discovery was just like leading with debt. But he didn't personally buy it. No, but he bought it with debt. Like he used debt to buy it, right? Like, he was like, put it on my discovered card. It's a good thing you're here.

Yeah. What category did you take this in, Sean? Blockbuster. Blockbuster, okay. Which leaves me with drama and wild cards. So I guess I have to take a drama. And I don't really know what to do. Can you guys vamp for a second for me?

Sure. I mean, there's a bunch of movies here that. Now I'm just looking at Chris's spreadsheet. Well, it's not even a spreadsheet. Yeah. I mean, this is, like, we do it in the same way. Yeah. Okay. I just saw one on your long list, don't you dare.

Had you seen, had you seen Lethal Whipin, too? No. I know what I'm going to pick. Okay. I know exactly what I'm going to pick. This is not going to win me any drafts, but I just watched it for the first time last night. Okay. I said I would talk about my parents, and I just saw the fabulous Baker Boys for the first time in my life last night. Oh, exciting.

Which is, it was honestly terrific. And, you know, a movie that my parents definitely saw on a date night and then would not shut the fuck up about. for weeks. And when we were talking about the middle of Hollywood and what this movie is, and I read a lot about it after I watch it. So this is a drama about two brothers who are musicians, played by Real Life Brothers, Bow Bridges, and Jeff Bridges. And they have had a long-running kind of nightclub act where they perform piano tunes and Tin Pan Alley songs. Two pianos, two pianos. Two pianos. Dooling pianos. And they've hit a bit of a snag because the club owners are growing tired of their shtick.

They're not able to draw a crowd as much as they were in the past. And so they start auditioning female singers to join their act. And they run through 37 auditions and they don't find a single talented person, though they do see a very funny Jennifer Tilly in her first movie role. And finally, an hour and a half late, Michelle Pfeiffer, aka Susie Diamond, shows up on their doorstep. And she is bedraggled and rude and one of the hottest people who's ever lived. and has a stunning voice. And if you've seen Greece, too, you know that Michelle Pfeiffer knows how to sing,

but maybe not quite like this. And then it becomes a kind of slow-moving character study of this trio of people entrenched in this business relationship and eventually a love affair develops between Jeff Bridges' character and Michelle Pfeiffer. The movie, when we were kids, was legendary for this performance of Making Whoopey in which Michelle Pfeiffer gets on the piano and sings and wearing this red dress, consider one of the sexiest scenes in movie history. I'd never seen it.

I'd seen pictures. I'd just never seen this movie. And did you get a lived up? Did you get a copy of it? I bought a copy of it probably a couple of years ago. There's a Twilight Time Blu-ray that is out of print, hard to find. And you could stream it, I guess. I'm sure it's available on Apple.

I think it's an VOD, but I don't think it's like available for streaming. And I would say if you haven't seen this, this is the color of money of lounge acts. Totally. Very similar energy. I think Michael Bauhaus shot it. Same cinematographer. And I think he shot color money, right? Yes, same cinematographer, a lot of smoking.

Yeah. A lot of dank, dark rooms, a lot of, like, every character on the periphery is kind of an asshole. So written and directed by Steve Cloves, who is probably best known now as the writer of all the Harry Potter movies. He did this, he did flesh and bone. Flesh and bone. And then he writes, like, 10 Harry Potter movies or however many Harry Potter movies,

plus is, like, producer or consultant on the Fantastic Beast movies. Yes. And he wrote this movie when he was in his 20s. because I think his parents were into this kind of music and he remembered seeing an act on the Tonight Show who performed in this fashion

and just one of those weird things where he just really believed in himself and was like I'm not going to sell this script I need to direct this movie and it seemed like maybe at a certain point George where Hill was going to come on board helping with it and he ultimately didn't do it but it's just a darn good drama

and I love to discover something like this that is like a well-known movie that has been on my blinders for a long time and I say all this to say, much like Tom Cruise, Michelle Pfeiffer not winning for this performance is fucking crazy. And Jessica Tandy winning is bullshit.

Like, you know, driving Miss Daisy, whatever you think about the racial politics, it's terrible. She gives like a nice performance. But compared to what Michelle Pfeiffer is asked to do in this movie, it's night and day. One of the best character introductions is her tryout song that she does.

And it's also like, she comes in and they're just like, well, like, where have you been playing? And she's like, well, I've been a high class escort for the last however long and Jeff Bridges just is like looking down and when she says that

he kind of like looks up and then he goes what would you like to play for it would you like what are you going to sing for us today and it's like Bridges is smoldering this movie he's so good

it's so easy to forget because of the Big Lobowski and crazy heart and true grit that he was such a stud yeah yeah yeah he was such a heartthron I've never forgotten Jagged Edge

so yeah it's a very similar era but this is I mean to the Michelle Fyfer thing. I have always felt like slightly after like the Michelle Fyfer era in the same way of like Demi Moore it was just we were like a bit

younger and so I like wasn't there for it and I didn't understand what our parents were really talking about and then you see Fabulous Baker Boys and you're like oh I see. For us it was like that was dangerous minds era Michelle Fiper when we were teenagers and this this is and tequila sunrise right? Yes

yes that's really the heart of her thing so anyway that's my drama pick. That's Great. Steve Kloves, what's up? I don't know, man. I'm such a good screenplay. There's a fight between the two of them near the end of the film where they're kind of like lecturing each other

that's very like if Sorkin knew how to write about the like relationships between non-politicians, but it's just like really brilliantly written and enacted. Okay, CR, you've got two more picks, right? Yeah, and I have Wild Card and I have Action Horror Thriller. Okay. Can I just say I do feel good about my board after all that? Oh, God. Yeah.

Okay. It came around. There's what I want to pick and there's what I should pick. Okay. I'm going to go with what I want to pick because I also want to talk about a news item they may not have seen. So I'm going to pick Roadhouse for Action Horror Thriller. And I want to talk to you about the dueling Roadhouse sequels. Okay.

Did you know about this? Incredible segue. So one of them is. the, is the Doug Lyman? No, no, it's not. Guy Ritchie is supposed to direct. No, not Guy Ritchie. It was going to be Guy Ritchie, and now it's another director who, whose name escapes me.

So he is making the sequel to the recent Jake Jillon Hall, Amazon MGM, Roadhouse. Which Jake Jillen Hall is starring in, and it's going to be on Amazon. Okay. Now, Doug Liman was the director of the original remake. Yes. Doug Liman has apparently also started going forward with a sequel based on a book or screenplay by the original screenwriter. Okay.

Who is also claiming that the copyright on the Roadhouse IP has reverted to him. Ah, okay. And it is basically like a sequel to the original Roadhouse where it's like Dylan, Dylan lives or whatever. Like, I mean, Dylan did live, but he's out there in the world doing Roadhouse stuff. The idea that we get into, Doug Lyman is such a real one, man. like he might be out of his gourd But also like speaking of people where you just hear a lot of stories It was absolutely insane things that are happening

He's still so pissed off that Roadhouse didn't stay in theaters That he's like I'm going to make a different roadhouse So the funny thing about this is that There actually is a Roadhouse 2 That came out in 2006 It was a direct-to-video action movie And it appears that The writer that you're referring to

Does have a credit on that movie R. Lance Hill whose pen name is David Lee Henry and I think he's credited with already having made a Roadhouse 2 which is the movie that nobody has seen, of course. I don't know what that does to Doug Lyman's

and his copyright argument with the Amazon Corporation but this is just fascinating besides all that Roadhouse was one of those when I saw it on video when I was 12 or 13 I was just like

the female form and also tearing a man's throw it out are the two most important things in the world to me. In this film you get both. Kelly Lynch. Is 1989 the year of the female body investigator hat? No, I was younger.

It's like a little older than I was like seven when I did that. And then your mom made you return it. I was really innocent. Yeah, like I wasn't like I want to inspect female bodies. I was like I respect I like how you're presenting that as like a real counterpoint to most of the guys who get that

hat. It's like well obviously if you buy that head it means you're investigating bodies. I just stood with law enforcement at a young age. I was just one of Hoover's little cubs, you know? Did you have to walk back to the store to return it? I don't remember.

There may have been in the backseat of the car waiting while I mother asked why this Walgreens was selling a female body inspector at. Anyway, Roadhouse. Fuck yeah. Nice pick. Thanks. Okay. Really good.

Amanda, you've got your last two picks. I do. I have Oscar nominee and Wildcard. There are so many good movies left. Yes. I know what I'm going to do. And it's being true to myself, Chris Ryan, Christopher Ryan, if I say to you, look at this stuff, isn't it neat? Wouldn't you think my... Can you finish the sentence?

No. What is this? It's The Little Mermaid. Yeah. I haven't seen it. Yeah. It's a song part of... Is this a line from Henry the Fifth?

It's from part of your world. Which is one of the great songs written in cinema history It's up there with that thing you do and shallow In my opinion Thingamabobs? I've got plenty. Yes. Ariel, love Ariel. But who cares, no big deal.

I want more. I mean, listen, I restrain, I kept myself from not singing it, but was I singing it last night by myself? I want to be where the people are. I want to see. Want to see them dancing. Walking along on those.

What do they call it again? I thought she's a mermaid, but she has... Up where they walk. She has aspirations to be a human. Yeah, because of Prince Eric. Because she sees Prince Eric. She saves Prince Eric from a burning ship. Okay.

That has been shipwrecked. Prince of what? It's a great question. Portugal? Really good question. Unclear. One would assume, is it based on Hans Christian Anderson story? Yeah.

Of the Netherlands. So you would think it would be, yes. Dutch perhaps? Denmark? I thought that was a Danish situation. Okay. Yeah, respect to all of Northern Europe. We understand you and see you.

This is a song that also rhymes bright young women with sick of swimming, ready to stand and ready to know what the people. I mean, listen. That's Wordcraft. It's a rally and cry. I, when I, when Knox was first born and I would like try to sing him to sleep, I realize that there are not that many songs that I can do like Acapella every single word to. From memory, yeah. Yeah, but it's, can't take my eyes off of you, which I know. know, because of Heath Ledger and Ten Things I Hate About You, and then it's part of your

world. Anyway, Little Mermaid just absolute, like, you know, exploded through pre-K and kindergarten. Were we running around on the playground doing the, like, you know, the, ah, because Ursula, the evil octopus wants Ariel's voice. It's not a great thing to teach young women, you know, which is that you trade your voice and your sense of self in order to be able to go like chase a random prince.

Well, it's a mistake. Well, she makes a mistake, sure. She has a trial. She does. Like all the great characters, as Joseph Campbell taught us. You know, it's her priorities could use some work.

And she's also that song. She's doing it for a man. Part of your world is sung in a cave, and a cavern of stuff. It's hard for me to visualize and also tell this story to myself while you're trying to, I'm trying to put my,

wrap my head around. So it's like an underwater cave that sort of looks like an underwater Guggenheim. And she has like, she collects forks. She collects like any human object that makes it to the underworld. Because she's really interested in life outside of the... Anyway. I just want to say... Powerful film.

This is a great movie. Yeah. And I was exposed to this movie. I did not see it in theaters at seven years old, even though I love Disney films to this day. Because I have a sister who's two years younger than me. And my sister Kara, this movie was ran her life when I was a little kid.

And it's so funny because obviously my daughter loves this movie as well. I know all the words to every song because of my daughter now. But it's like they came back to me after having a 30-year rest. Oh, yeah. And two things about that.

One, God, every day my daughter reminds me of my sister Kara so much. They look exactly the same. They have the same attitude about things. It's so weird. Anyway, the other thing is that there's a great documentary if people have never seen it

called Howard on Disney Plus, which is about Howard Ashman, who was one of the producers of The Little Mermaid and wrote a lot of the songs, and he wrote the songs for Beauty and the Songs for Beating the Beast. He wrote some of the songs for Little Shop of Horrors. And you can see him in this documentary teaching the performers in these films the way to deliver these songs. And it is amazing. Is it on Disney Plus? It's on Disney Plus. Yeah, it's really good. It came out during COVID, I want to say, oh, 2018, actually. But I would highly recommend if you like The Little Mermaid checking out this documentary.

I do. Incredible. Thank you. I don't know if you'll ever see it, but... I mean, I'll probably see The Little Mermaid before I see this documentary about the guy right in the songs. Probably. But if you want to see him teach Jerry Orbach how to sing like a candelabra, then I would recommend it.

I have a whole Lumiere take too, but I'll save that. Have you seen Beauty and a Beast? No. This is the one, by the way, that The Reignites that Starts the new Disney Golden Age. Was this one of the, was this all in the era of Disney movies where it was like available for a limited time

and then it goes back on the shelf. Like there was a scarcity practice. Yeah, they had the very famous clamshell VHS tapes. We definitely own this in my house. We didn't have the clamshell, but. So I have wild card left. No, no, I have wild card left. This is the easiest wild card that I've ever,

I've ever wildcarded. I'm not I'm not gonna do like two movie recitations in a row I'm doing two Beverly Hills and I was gonna be Beverly Hills what a thrill Beverly Hills I saw this movie at Alice Johnson's birthday party so it must have been like a sixth birthday Alice Johnson Alice Johnson who was a good friend of mine at school and she was the girls valedictorian in my high school

because my high school was so backwards that we no no no no You were the boys valedictorian. So I should, no, my high school boyfriend was, obviously. Wow. I should have been salutatorian. I should have been salutatorian, but let me tell you something, they waited honors classes and AP classes the same. So someone snuck in that, yeah.

Do you and Alice talk or was at the end of that? It's fine. Okay, but you were not competitive with Alice. No. You were competitive with this other girl who snuck her way to salutatorian. I wasn't even competitive with her. It was just kind of like, let's be real. Got it, got it.

But that's fine. It was an I don't think about you at all situation. Yeah, I don't. Which you clearly don't. You have not really remembered it at all either. I mean, I just don't think that that's fair mathematically. But that's whatever. Wow.

Do you think that maybe Trump could do something about this retroactively? Or like, should we take it to the courts? Alice Johnson is great in my book because she took AP classes and also she taught me about True Beverly Hills, which is an absolutely delightful. I saw before I saw Clueless, so the Los Angeles of True Beverly Hills, which includes the sleepover at the Beverly Hills Hotel, looms large in my mind. It reflects a similar relationship to, I guess, scouting groups that I had in my own life. You were a girl school?

No, I couldn't be part of that. Can you imagine me doing one of the, like the, the, the, the, the, wilderness girls like trial or whatever and selling the... Hard to believe you didn't make some of the auditorium with that attitude. I primarily know this movie because of Jenny Lewis. Yeah. Yeah. Like Carly Gojino.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. The seeds of all of our beloved actors and singers. Great movie. Shelly Long, another person who was like insanely famous in 1989. And now if you ask the 25-year-old who Shelley Long, they would have no idea. Yeah, but like 51 million people watched her once a week.

Right, for like five years. This is probably in the top five movies all time for Eileen. I think she's probably seen it more than any movie. Yeah, of course. I still need one of the books with a camera built into it. You know, I think I even tried to make one at some point. I don't even remember that scene, but I haven't seen it a while. Okay, well, that's how the assistant goes undercover with Tree Beverly Hills and takes, you know, reports back to the mean Red Feathers mom and head of the Wilderness Girls.

Interesting. Okay, Chris, you've got Wildcard. There's a lot of really, really, really... So much left. Should this have been a mega movie draft in retrospect? It almost could have been, but I would have wanted to have done it in a way that focused on the like third shelf down video rentals as a category. Because I'm really split on whether to pick something that's well regarded

versus what I actually watched a lot in my life. I'll split the middle and just pick major league for Wildcard. I have two baseball movies. How about that? Major League, one of my most beloved treasured movies from this era

movie, one of the great baseball movies. Charlie. Charlie Sheen, Tom Berenger, Dennis Haysbert, about Cleveland Indian season, Wesley Snipes.

That is where the owner wants the team to lose and the team refuses to do so and goes on to win the pennant, I believe. Yes. And I was just thinking about it because I was watching

baseball last night. so it's obviously on the mind. But just like a really, really great David Anspaugh movie that captures like not only, this movie is really hard to pull off to have all these guys convincingly play baseball to have like a professional sports fictional arc

that comes up believable. That's the thing is it's taking place in the world of Major League Baseball. Like the Cleveland Indians at the time and the Yankees are in the movie. You know, it feels like it's happening inside of the sport. That's something that you just don't see very often

at this point, you know? Or if you do, it's like in draft day and they're talking about being the Browns, but they're not actually the Browns. I watch this movie 500 times. Yeah. I think this movie is so great and so fun. And also another one of those,

like when you're a kid, a portal into being an adult. Like the relationship between, is it Renee Rousseau and Tom Berringer? Yeah. I was like, that's what it's like. You date a woman like Renee Rousseau. And it's complicated, but you work it out.

Like those are relationships. Yeah. Okay, really good pick. So that was the movie that I was going to say if I want to feel like I'm trying to win like I would take that movie

because everybody loves Major League. If you've seen Major League, you like Major League. If I'm being honest with myself, okay. The movie that I should take is Roger and me, which is Michael Moore's documentary,

it's kind of exploration, very personal film about trying to find answers from the CEO of the Ford Motor Company at a time in which that the car company was significantly downsizing.

It's a, it's workforce and moving a lot of its work overseas. And it's the first Michael Moore movie. Like a lot of aspiring leftist kids in the 1990s, I got really interested in Michael Moore's movies. I've, you know, soured on some aspects of Michael Moore over the years, but I've always been very interested in him.

I wrote a really long piece about him for the Ringer, like, eight or nine years ago, and just kind of how important his movies were to me. And this movie is just a fascinating example of how great, documentary filmmaking can be because this is this movie was a big hit and it was it's very conventionally entertaining because it's so personal because um michael more spent so much time talking about his family his parents his dad who worked for the board motor company it's a for or gm i'm i don't i'm not making i can't remember it might be general motors i'm sorry if i'm mixing those two up um but i i jam it's gm thank you um i don't this is probably the first documentary

I've ever seen and it obviously made a huge impact on me and I wonder it's like this and it's almost like do the right thing probably a change the course of your life and the way you looked at the world kind of movie even if you didn't see it in 89 or whatever yeah yeah yeah and I still I still pop on the older ones the first three or four Michael more movies and I still have a lot of affection for them I think that as he you know after he won the best documentary feature film for was for Farronite 9-11 and then and bowling for Columbine, and he became this, like, huge box office figure.

Right. And, like, and a pop culture figure. Very much. And, like, a talk show host or talk show guest all the time. He became very overexposed, and I think he's much more complicated now in the public eye than he was back then. But this is a big deal movie for me.

So I'm going to go with that. Okay. That's great end of our draft. That's beautiful. We have many, many, many, many honorable mentions to go through here because of how robust this year was. I'll start with a couple of, like, major films that just didn't get drafted.

Okay. Gus Van Zanz's drugstore cowboy. Also one of the kind of signature independent films. Casualties of War. Brian DePaul's Vietnam film, which is just incredibly painful and difficult to watch. Is The Abyss 89? James Cameron's The Abyss is 1989.

His first journey below. De Palma's very charming in the Scorsesee, Doc. Absolutely. Yeah, I just, as soon as you said his name, I was like, oh, we didn't really talk about that, but really lovely. I mean, like an actual friend's, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's like kind of competitive with him still, you know, like that pops out. Yeah, but it's great. Yeah, I like that too.

I thought long and hard about Miracle Mile. You've seen that movie? I thought long and hard about Miracle Mile. Yeah. We're thinking long and hard about it now in the aftermath of House of Dynamite. Did you see House of Dynamite yet? I didn't. I will.

Okay. Yeah, we know, we, you know. Yeah. We know what you think. Yeah. You're too busy watching the cemetery down by the graveyard? Is that the name of that show? Terry Road.

I will see House of Dead. Crimes and Misdemeanors, undrafted. Yeah. No thoughts? Pretty amazing. Pretty amazing movie. Henry the 5th? Thought about it.

I thought about trying to be cute and being like, well, there was a Henry the Forth. I was going to say, I was going to try and squeeze it into a sequel. There's something kind of crazy. What was Henry the Forks like? Henry the Fourth 1 and 2 are like the young man, Henry before. and there's parts of Henry the 4th, part 1 and 2 in Henry the 5th, the movie.

I see, okay. And that's how? Yeah. And all the Falstaff stuff. It's been wild because I feel like we're having a weird moment in pop culture where a bunch of the people from these movies are popping up and stuff.

So Emma Thompson is in this series that you just besmirched. Daniel Day Lewis, obviously, an enemy. Like just watching these people as very young actors. Still with us all these years later. This is 36 years ago. Yeah. There's several other films.

I mean, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure is this year. That's, you know, critical movie. How to Get Ahead in Advertising is this year. The Burbs. Joe Dante is the Burbs. Phenomenal movie. Uncle Buck. The War of the Roses?

Maybe the biggest movie not drafted here today? I thought about it. But, and we did a rewatchables on it. I like that movie. it's also by the time it had been by the time I was old enough to see it feel like it was a little outdated I see

I still have not seen the roses nor have I I was about to say but I got an email that it's coming to streaming at some point yes Weekend at Bernies I gotta tell you I think I may have seen Weekend at Bernies more than any other movie in my life

I think the only movie I've seen more than Weekend of Bernie's is Weekend of Bernies 2 which is also on cable quite a bit growing up Andrew McCarthy and Weekend at Bernie's is a powerhouse performance. Is it? Yeah, it's up there

with my left foot. Dangos. Gleaming the Cube, big, big Slater movie for me. Police Academy 6, City Under Siege. Yeah.

We're just Citizens on Patrol. I think this is Citizens on Patrol. Police Academy 6 is City Under Siege. Okay, sorry. But you just referenced it as though it were my left foot. You were like, Police Academy 6,

under siege, of course, in the Canon. one of the great films certainly a movie I saw a lot Police Academy Major League Look Who's Talking Yeah All of these

Honey I Shrunk the Kids Weekend of Bernie's These are movies that I saw Over and over and over again But I preferred both look who's talking two Because That's when there's two kids And also the animals, right?

I thought three was Isn't that look who's talking now? Oh, you're right Okay well anyway The number is Is it Rose and look who's talking to as the other voice

Bruce Willis isn't the first one right? He's the baby. Two, okay, let's see. Yes. Yes. And then I can't, I have not revisited. You know who directed Luke who's talking right. Amy Heckerlin's right. Yeah, Amy Heckerling. So we need to respect it. Let's see. The movie was a fucking sensation.

Yes, it is Roseanne. You're right. And then the third one is the, anyway, I think look who's talking to is better than look who's talking. You know, it's so crazy? What? I don't want to spoil this, but in a movie that is coming out later this year, there's

like a look who's talking homage. Is it enripped? I don't want to. I don't want to spoil it. Yeah. I don't want to spoil it. I mean, it may not be purposeful, but it's something that is represented in that film, this upcoming film and the original film.

Is it in Hamnet? It is not. Okay, well, now I'm trying to think about what it is. I don't want to spoil it for anybody. Because I loved it. And I don't even know how intentional it was, but if it was intentional, that's fucking sick. That's really funny. And then, wait, no, no, but then also, I also feel that honey I blew up the kids

is better than honey I shrunk the kids. Because the giant baby just, you know, I have a lot of affection for giant babies, given my own, but I mean, there is a real side quality to that kid. Just like, where do I go? How many I Shrink the Kids was cool as a kid? It was cool. It was a cool movie. I also, I think that on the one time that we went to Disney World, which was lovely,

I loved Disney World. I went when I was seven. And there was also, I don't know which other park had the honey. I shrunk the kids. Universal probably. Yeah, like. Or MGM or whatever it was. I thought it was Disney.

I thought that was a Touchstone movie. I could be wrong. I have vivid memories of like a honey I shrunk the kids branded extended jungle gym where you would run through everything and everything was much bigger than you and you were the small kid

and that's like that's what stayed with me even more than Space Mountain. Honey I shrunk the kids was Walt Disney and Buena Vista Pictures. Okay. Okay, a few more to go through. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen Terry Gillian movie, of course.

Cinema Paradiso was released in America in this. year and it was nominated for best foreign language film i see you're going on the art house track here can i shout at jim jarmish's mystery train yes one of the best uh one of the great like uh cultural mixtapes because like it introduced me to a bunch of different stuff that i had no idea about like screaming jay hawkins and rockabilly and it's just an incredible hangout movie that i think is on criterion channel it is i uh just saw father mother sister brother his new film which is like mystery train an anthology movie. Sorry to Amanda about that. I thought it was great. I really, really,

really liked it. And it has a lot of, it has some mystery train echoes. There was a Q&A after the screening with Jim. And, uh, was driver there. Driver was not there. I'll tell you who was there watching the film with me was Charlie XX. She was in the screening room. Yeah. And she seemed to enjoy it. Uh, did she dab you up and say, I respect your work? Yeah. She said, what's up, homie? It's me again. And I said, thank you for Brett. Other films You didn't like Brat You didn't

I remember I was there You were like I listened to the first part And I don't need to go through with it Because it was a female musician Right That's the problem Yeah okay

No one drafted my left foot Which is like it's pretty good That's fine yeah Glory Yeah Probably hasn't age great No I've seen it

At least a few times Because of school The white gaze Yeah The gaze Z of the white gaze. What's the, and what about it?

It just has an age well. The white gaze of that film. Yes. Yeah. The white gaze Z in general has not age great either. Interesting. Try to mix it up a little bit. And here we all are.

Yeah. Fair enough. Interesting points were made. Have you guys seen a dry white season? Yeah. No. This is a courtroom thriller that actually,

actually, didn't it garner Marlon Brando an Academy Award nomination? I believe that it did. Yes, he was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. Eugen Palsy is the director of this movie, and it's also set in South Africa during apartheid. It's kind of would be an interesting double feature with Lethal Heaven, too. It's right, yeah, diplomatic community night. More. Star Trek 5, the Final Frontier.

Not a huge fan of that one. A Nightmare on Elm Street, the Dream Child. Yeah. Not the best. Halloween 5, The Revenge of Michael Myers, a film that should be deleted. I'd rather watch 6, which is the Paul Rudd one, right? I don't like 6 very much either, but I'd rather watch it than 4. Halloween Resurrection? Is that 6?

No, Resurrection is the reality show, correct? For resurrection is after H2O. Okay, so what is 6? 6 is the one where Paul Rudd plays Tommy and they're like syringing. Halloween films? Oh, okay, sorry. They're taking like the syringe of juice out of Michael Myers. Yes, I remember.

I think that's 6. But what's it called? The curse? Halloween, the curse of Michael Myers. The curse of Michael Myers. Damn. Also quite bad. It is.

There's like a five consecutive bad movie run for the Halloween films. Well, it depends on how you feel about season of the witch. No, I wouldn't include that. I think four is okay. I think five, six, seven, and eight are bad. I know you like H2O. I know some people really like H2O. I don't care for H2O.

I want to touch you. Friday the 13th, Part 8, Jason takes Manhattan. It's a no-from-me dog. Yes. But it comes at the end of a very fertile run for the Friday, the 13th project. Okay. Yeah. What happens in those?

Well, there's a telekinetic young girl who attacks Jason. Great. Speaking. Kind of Amanda vibes on that girl. Women empowerment. That's right. Yeah. Center her.

Don't center Jason. Yeah. Fletch lives. I don't think I've seen it. I don't think I have either. I don't think so. Okay. I don't remember you ever seeing it.

Should I see it? I don't know. I haven't, so I can't recommend it. The Fly 2. Okay. All right. Not ideal. The package?

Yeah, I like that movie. That's Gene Hackman and Ann Archer. It's Andrew Davis, right? Andrew Davis directed. Oh, yeah. And he is investigating someone being murdered. It's a little bit of a confusing. It's like a spy story, too, right?

Is it J.T. Walsh who's murdered in the first few minutes? Damn, spoiler. Well, I mean, it happens like the first story. Not in a movie, you know it's a good one. I agree. If J.T. Walsh gets shot in the head, a plus film. No one has said the word Steele Magnolius at any point. Wow! Wow!

I mean, we said type deities, but we didn't say St. Magnolius. I made a joke about it. I was like, I was wondering if you were going to take it. Are you a fan of this film? No, not really. You've said that before. Yeah. For all your Julia fandom and your quest for empowerment.

Sure, yeah, everyone's really. And your interest in beauty. Right, yeah. Everyone's really empowered in that one. Yeah. Um, music, is it Tom Scarrett? Is the dad in this? Sounds right.

And Sam Shepard is Dali Parton's boyfriend. Yeah. I mean, that's important. He's kind of a bad guy, but then really shows up at the end. Sure. Yeah. When Shelby doesn't drink her juice. You know, it's a film I haven't seen.

But music box, which is star Jessica Lang. She got a Academy Award nomination for this movie. It's her in Armand Mueller Stahl. And it's about a Hungarian immigrant played by Mueller Stahl, who is accused of being a war criminal. It's directed by Kostogavris, directed Z and State of Siege, plenty of good movies.

And it's written by Joe Esther House. Yeah. Okay. Of basic instinct. I'm aware. Sliver. Perhaps you've heard of him. I was going to throw out along those same lines

is a movie that I watched a bit of. And I think I saw when I was younger, but on cable or something, but I watched a bit of last night, which is True Believer, which is a Kurt Hansen movie with James Woods and Robert, Downey Jr.

About a defense attorney taking on an unwinnable case kind of like, his attempt at the verdict, but it was pretty good what I watched of it. There was one other, Morgan Freeman Lean on me.

That was a huge movie. I love that movie. Yeah. And Harlem Knights, really awesome. And then Tango and Cash. I can't believe you didn't, did this,

maybe it came out in 1990. Did the unbelievable truth come out in 1990? 90 in the U.S. The Hal Hartley movie? Yeah. It's listed as 89, but it's released. It might have been 1990.

Speaking of Long Island figures and growing up there. He is selling those on his site. Yeah, the Blu-Race of his films. Not all of them, though, I think. Only some of them are maybe some of them are sold out. I think I might have bought a couple. It sounds like it was more of a 90 movie because it came out. It got to Sundance in 90.

Okay. A couple of other ones. Jane Campy and Sweetie is this year. Brian Yuzna's Society, one of the most amazing body horror movies of all time is this year. See no evil, hear no evil, another movie that was on cable,

nonstop. Is that the last prior and wilder movie? It might be. Are you a Blake Edwards guy? Sure. Skin Deep. Was that this year? Yeah.

Okay. That's pretty good. Let It Ride. Incredible gambling comedy with Richard Dreyfus. I wanted to recommend to listeners of the show Notebook on Cities and Clothes.

Are you guys familiar with this? No. Also a documentary made by Vim vendors about Yogi Amamoto and all about Japan. And Yoji's history as a fashion designer, very, very good film. I think that's all I got. Should we recap? No license to kill for you from your favorite bond? Honestly, not a Dalton guy at all.

No, who is? I don't know, but he's really been lost to history. I wonder when that will get reclaimed. No, it's Pet Cemetery. There's two Fred Gwyn movies that I like that. is your disorganized crime. Never seen it. Yeah.

Sea of love? Yeah, I mean, that's obviously a cold text. I fucked up. I fucked up and I took... You took Field of Dreams. You could have taken Sea of Love. Or I took Roadhouse and I could have taken Sea of Love. Fucked up.

Yeah. That's rough. What about Dead Calm? That's a good one. You seen Dead Calm? No. Nicole Kidman is trapped on a boat with her husband, Sam Neal. I have seen this.

Wait, no, no, I've seen this. Yes. Yeah. So... Incredible. Yeah, really, really. Great thriller. Sam Neal was only in fucked up movies.

Yeah. At this time period. Yes. No, Jurassic Park. Probably the most fucked up movie they were made. They fucking invented dinosaurs. What was the West Craven? No, the John Carpenter is in the mouth of madness.

Yeah. A plus film. Five-star classic. He's also in possession, of course. Yeah. This is a fuck ton of good movies this year. It was great stuff. You guys have any closing thoughts before we wrap?

I enjoyed myself. Okay. Amanda, you had first pick. Why don't you start off the recapping? So am I reading from, am I reading drama, comedy, action, or I'm reading the order of, what do you, what's? I mean, live your truth. In Blockbuster, I have one, Harry Met Sally, an action horror thriller, Ghostbusters 2, in comedy, heathers, in drama, born on the 4th of July. In sequel, I believe I have National Ampoon's Christmas Vacation, though the camera is blocking it.

I don't know what's in round five. Little Mermaid. Little Mermaid, in Oscar nominee and in, am I missing something? Beverly Hills. Well, that's Wildcard. I just didn't know whether I covered everything. You did.

You did. Everything's going to be okay. I can't see. You've done a great job. Thank you. You're a working mother. Thank you so much. I'm doing the best again.

Can you believe you heard? You've learned a lot about Master Chief today. Yeah. This has been helpful. Sure. In my first pick, I took, do the right thing in drama. In my second pick,

I took Field of Dreams and Oscar nominee. Third, I took Dead Poets Society in Blockbuster? Comedy? No, Blockbuster. You're right time to stop talking. I took Parenthood forth in comedy.

You have lethal weapon in sequel. You have road two, sure. It's kind of a nice microcosm of some of our studio issues here. You have Roadhouse in Action Horror Thriller and you have Major League in Wildcarts. There you can go.

Okay. You're going to have to help me on the bottom as well, Amanda. But in Action Horror Thriller, I got Tim Burton's Batman. In sequel, I got Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. an Oscar nominee I got sex lies and videotape and comedy I got say anything

You had Back to the Future Part 2 in sequel Fabulous Baker Boys in Drama and Roger and me and Wild Card. Great. Back to the future part two in Blockbuster. Sorry. Right. Well, next time we'll just do it the other way.

Next time we will do it with no cameras and we won't record it. And we'll just sit here quietly. And we'll be like, we get a 40s? and everyone will say where's the new draft and we said we did it for us great to see you guys

this was a pleasure so you are leaving for six months and you're not coming back for two weeks we're going to miss you I hope that the air traffic controllers are kind of on their you know I hope

are you're going to say on their best behavior get paid and are happy and safe and fucking yeah pay them seeing all the sight lines okay that was very convincing

What are we doing later this week? Later this week, we have number six on 25 for 25. Oh, yeah. How do you feel about that? I feel good about it. I got to do some prep. Yes, I do as well. Not one to be taken lightly is number six, is what I will say.

You want to guess what it is, Chris? Rise of Skywalker. That's it. Thanks to Jack Sanders for his work on this episode. Thanks to CR, The Goat. Appreciate your brother. We'll see you soon. You know,